>preview said FF16 will be the most divisive FF16 in history even including spinoffs
>previews unanimously said there is practically no RPG elements and that the "sidequests" the devs claimed wouldn't be fetch quests are in fact generic fetch quests
>most previews say they can barely get a grasp on things and that the pacing is very rushed, even with the datalog popups
>the previews all said it remains to be seen if the game can pull off anything special meaning if the rest of the game is the same as what they played it'll be mid
>all previews said the phoenix part dragged on too long and was very automated
>the leaks have now been 100% confirmed
typical Barry (Forspoken shill) shitpost. Makes claims but never produces evidence to back them up
>he didn't read the previews
>game can only be done on PS5 guys!
>framedrops and stutters
No, I mean for the webm.
>not even ff16 devs could keep track of ff16 story
lol its so fucking over
Unironically linking a piece from Kotaku. You know what to do.
Thats a direct quote from the devs retard
read the fucking interview you colossal embarrassing retard
>gets banned from FF16 events
>makes shit up to make FF16 look bad
Kotaku are a bunch of dumb fucks
Did they actually get banned? They do seem to have an odd hateboner for the game.
They got blacklisted by Square Enix yes, they were crying about it some time ago.
The game looks like shit and it's clear that Square and nobody working there has any idea what Final Fantasy is (and hasn't for a long time) beyond an increasingly irrelevant branding for games nobody would ever care about otherwise.
That quote is straight from the devs not a kotaku made up quote
>That quote is straight from the devs
except this is the quote about the story from the devs, not the fake Kotaku news posted.
Barry is just posting the fake anti-XVI news because the XVI devs literally called XV's story "incomplete"
Seems like a different quote. Like how this quote is exclusive to the other one?
Remember in ff15 where a major plot point of the story was that the prince and his entourage wanted to go to some megacity to see lunafreya's wedding dress.
He shit talked 15 really fucking hard lmao.
hes not been taking it well
What compels a man to such gaytry ?
Jaygames sounds like a bitch
probably takes it up the ass
Erotic asphyxiation most likely too.
What abour Bazztek is that the same guy
Didn't they burn bridges with Nintendo as well? Who else have they pissed off? Can't just be those two.
>Kotaku are a bunch of dumb fucks
And a bunch of beta cucks too.
>Clive has Jill and Cid and Torga merry band
>Cid is gonna hit the bullet
>Benedickta is a whore sleeping around with Hugo and Barnabas, maybe Cid too
The party dynamic is gonna sucks dick, isn't it? I miss the time when we had a 6-7 supporting characters in the party going around the world doing goofy stuffs.
Well only Jill and Cid are likely to be real allies. Maybe Benedikta, though I could see that going either way. Hugo, Barnabas, and Dion are likely going to be enemies more than allies. Clive and Hugo certainly don't seem to care from each other given the end of the Ambition trailer.
People already complained that 15 had only 4 bros in the party, now with an unattractive femmc and a doggo...
Cid doesn't really count.
I don't remember seeing anybody complain that XV only had 4 party members.
I see endgame being Clive, Jill, Dion, and Benedikta v Joshua and Barnabas
I think Hugo bites it early. Lots of IVisms in the game, Dion being the ebil-to-party dragoon is in line, final party would match the Cecil/Kain/Rosa/Rydia, we probably meet another person later in the game that either fills another ebil slot or Edge's slot (Levithan?)
You mean DQXI?
Anything before FFX I suppose
the interview is in fact real and came from polygon, not kotaku. You guys are so fucking defensive lmao.
Is the ff14 sub money that good that they can just release flop after flop?
ff14 makes barely anything
square makes most of their money from Japan only mobile games, the funny thing is that the mobile games aren't even doing well and die within a year. They just chain release them and farm money from retards that don't check the publisher in advance
SE is still one of the richest third party game devs in the world, despite pumping out nothing but hot garbage
Personally i`m on the fence. I like the art design but i don`t like the realistic graphical style. It just doesn`t look right for Final Fantasy. I feel very little of the FF identity remains.
Regular combat looks meh but eikon battles, story, characters, setting and themes look good. Don`t really care about the FPS thing. All and all i think this one is the closest we are going to get at this point to getting something on the vein of a tactics main entry so i guess i am somewhat willing to compromise and give it a chance but i`m not particularly exited.
>is the closest we are going to get at this point to getting something on the vein of a tactics main entry
>tactics: thunderstorms in random battles make the enemy take increased lightning damage/increase its strength
>ff16: lightning doesn't exist, elements don't exist, that's too much of an rpg thing, your "fire" phoenix attack is identical to hitting with a sword because we hate rpg mechanics
It's not remotely comparable to tactics in even any single way anon
It's gonna suck, because they're trying to take a 3 decade long rpg series and remove all the rpg from it to cater to people who have not been playing it for the last 3 decades, because squenix is staffed entirely by clowns
>It's not remotely comparable to tactics in even any single way anon
>It's gonna suck
Heavily inspired by famous mexican telenovela with dragons also knows as game of thrones.
post links then. you got nothing and you know it, all previews are sucking off the game
>the leaks have now been 100% confirmed
point me to where they confirmed Dion being gay, i'll wait
SA banned it because he's gay
>check the first site, finaland
>entire preview is just the dude straight up gushing about the game
woah you got me
>SA banned it because he's gay
Dion may be gay, but there's probably another reason for the ban.
For obvious reasons I'm sure he raised concern when JRPGS depicted Christianity in a poor light ffor deecades, right?
>all white cast
>Muslims depicted as oppressive fanatical religious extremists
I can tell this will be Ganker's GOTY
>raised some concern
I fucking hate these whinging little pussies so fucking much I hope this game succeeds just to piss them off
I just love how their justification for including nogs is that "it's not real life, it's fantasy" and then they just can't help themselves and have to go around being like "well what's the natural real life counterpart for this totally fictional race and/or country with a totally fictional religion and language"
ignoring totally and completely the fact they are called "crusaders" and that the aristocracy in England around the first crusade spoke French, not English.
Siliconera still on the same old bullshit I see. Should have never been allowed to talk about rpgs after their interview with Murayama about Eiyuden Chronicle
So you're retarded
>says ff16 music was meh and unmemorable and that he'd prefer mizuta or even sakamoto over soken, and said that with ff15 and 13 he was always humming turns that got stuck in his head but with ff16 there was nothing
>he said he was disappointed that its not structured like FF12 and is instead like stranger of paradises shitty map
>he said it doesn't feel like FF
>Said ff16 will be the most divisive ff
>FINAL FANTASY XVI is, in my opinion, going to be the most divisive FF game ever, even counting the spin-offs. I think it's going to be binary: you're going to love it or you're going to hate it, there is not going to be any middleground. I think the purist fans are going to hate on the game and it's going to appeal a lot more to a new generation that's ready for a story that's written in fire ink. These changes that I have seen are indeed very confusing, but maybe it is a necessary sacrifice to attract a new audience, to renew itself to find a new glory. But be careful not to get burned, because this was just the beginning.
Well nothing about dion is confirmed yet, but it would track with the game being banned in saudi arabia
Dion is probably gay, but it's more likely to be scenes like picrel that gets it banned there more than anything
There is a arab faction in the game and they go in a quite literal jihad
Most of the journalist previews that have been listed on metacritic are extremely positive. OP is just a giant lying gay.
>that seamless transition from battle music back to overworld music
It's so simple but I love it every time it happens.
Soken said he did 215 tracks for the game in a 4gamer interview, a lot of them are motif spins
soundtrack is gonna be so fucking kino
I still think the combat looks a little stiff, or that the enemies look stiff as fuck when they are getting hit.
Still can't wait.
Haven't seen the extended gameplay of this one but every clip of combat I've seen it looks like those mobile CG ads with PS8 graphics kek. I think it's the UI at fault.
AAAAHHHH IM SO HYPPEEEEEE
>taking all that time juggling basic ass dogs
he literally killed them in 1 hit
enemies were tankier in the demo so more combos could be shown
Looks good, if only the other party members were playable...
What is with the useless text flying on screen? What purpose is it? Also, if I ever get around to playing this, I will 100% pick the summon which has the least amount of particle garbage flying around, it looks legit awful.
Soken did that trick in FF14 a lot too
These two would seamlessly swap in and out during combat
Where exactly is the fun in spamming the same move for minutes against a boss like this? There's no strategy, you just spam the same move and hope the boss dies fast.
Because they made a FF that's less of an RPG than nu-asscreed with no weapon variety and somehow even fewer movesets
So true. I miss when FF had strategy instead of being such casual trash that even women could guaranteed to complete it.
>There's no strategy, you just spam the same move
This is the "strategy" for 90% of JRPGs nowadays.
ESLfag here, I can barely listen through the dialogues with the English VAs, I am having Xenoblade flashbacks and god that series sucks with the VAs. Im so used to the Hollywood VAs from FF7R.
I wonder what "western" population they are targeting, certainly not the Americans.
I was just playing FF7 intergrade yesterday and the VAs are pretty kino
I hope they keep the same cast for Rebirth.
>retarded anime grunts during dialogs and cutscenes
Doesn't Clive grunt a lot in the one of the previews too? C'mon man.
Grunting in combat is significantly less retarded than grunting mid convo
1. You are ESL so your opinion is less important.
2. They fit the setting
3. GoT and Elden Ring both of which are massively popular have these kinds of accents. Most people who can understand English usually like these accents because they sound like ye olde timey.
Xenoblade is weeb anime slop so the accents are out of place there albeit charming.
Reminder that reviewers loved Tales of Arise and that game is irredeemable dogshit. Not saying this game will be good but imagine listening to these retards.
Funny enough, this game does remind of of ToA but no controllable party members. I spent a good 100hrs on ToA but I have to admit its hot garabge, no repayable values.
What are the XVI leaks?
Final Fantasy XVI feels like a breath of fresh air after the buggy disaster that was XV
those enemy jumps and swings are so kingdom hearts I almost can't believe that shit made it into final fantasy
You know what I fucking hate the most, they purposely made those soldiers to be this weird robots with weird animations when they were just regular ass human soldiers in Versus.
No those are completely different enemies
Imperial Rifleman are the soldiers as they were since Versus
The Magitek Troopers are a completely different set of soldiers and are weird robotic movement
lol, lmao even
yes? problem? they were like that since versus
niflheim = dresses medieval fantasy but uses modern weaponry and technology
lucis = dresses modern clothes and suits but uses magic swords and fantasy weapons and magic
yes, it looks stupid and goofy
idgaf about versus bro, how does it being the same somehow make it better? still dumb as shit.
nope it looks based and interesting
ff16 is generic and boring
>uses a mod glitch not something in the actual game
XVI kun have a nice day
And oh look still the same on PC version too
Dumb fucking yoshitpiss chud
Meanwhile Gematsu said they had a glitch in FF16 where the water around the malboro all turned black and shit was fucked and he had to reset his demo and the build he played was AFTER the game went gold so that is final build
the combat designers and animators on xv are literally kh2 devs
>literal no indication its ps4 version
>literal no indication its a pc version
>he didn't look at the vids which debunk him since it never happened in any of those
>same as unskipable cuck cutscene in 7r and 16
So you're retarded
The HP bar and hud literally isnt on the cutscene overlay you retard so no
it didnt cuck you out of any meter or action like 7r and 16 do which have their hud overlayed on the cutscene
meanwhile ff7r and ff16 do nothing but cuck you EVERY FUCKING BOSS
post that happening against behemoth, post it against cerberus, post it against melusine, post it again ma-x angelus, post it against loqi, etc
oh wait it literally doesn't happen in any fight
Also you can literally skip that Ardyn cutscene while you can't skip any cuckscene in 7R or 16.
how do you think he stores all of his giant copypastes that no one ever bothers to read? Hes gotta have thousands of them at this point.
He stored them all in one big folder along with his porn, which is how he fucked up last week.
xvi-kun having another melty
>XVI-kun still in denial over the leak
Other than Dion being gay, which is a non-issue because I can beat the gay out of him, I don't really see anything bad about the leak.
That "mom" character needs to be NTR'd.
I would NTR Barry if he wasn't a shitskin
I don't stick my dick in poo
Kek. I'd kill myself if I got so shaken over flopspoken not having hitstop that I posted my fetish shit.
>barry faps to chud porn
>he also faps to incest
man this bro fucking stacks up his mental illness.
What site is that? asking for a friend
More like you can't read
What vids? People have footage of the glitch from before the PC version even existed.
>PC Release: 2018
How’s the magic in this game looking? I heard there’s no weaknesses of whatever, which is kind of annoying, but does it at least seem more playable than whatever FFXV was trying to do?
The real question is hows magic compared to other ff games, except for 15 which is insignificant in the equation. I don't really care if its better than 15, which is hot trash, but it must be better than the classics such as 7 9 and 10.
it's Tactics magic, no idea if we will see ultimate spells like Meteor or Holy
I don't play Tactics butdid they get anyone working on the previous mainline ff except for the MMO staff to work on this? I forgot.
They keep saying theres no magic vulnerability, but in the state of play you constantly see 'Eikonic Vulnerability' appear in that list on the right, and it pops up when clive is using Shiva abilities on Ifrit, aka ice on fire, so maybe its just specific abilities or something? Not a clue.
maybe there's only elemental weaknesses versus Eikons, or they're hitting a weak point like Ifrit's horns with an ability
Dion is a brainwashed Joshua post time skip
Phoenix v Bahamut eikon battle are his personalities battling for control
Would RPG fans even like FF16?
Imagine all those nerds that don't like high action games, especially those that aren't good at them. Would they feel betrayed that they're basically having to learn a completely different genre of gaming for Final Fantasy, or did 7 and 15 prepare them enough for this kind of game?
>Imagine all those nerds that don't like high action games
I like action games, I like games with high difficulty. But I liked FF (excl FF13) because it was FF. Now it's just some wrinkly sad gay having a midlife crisis and dressing in teenager clothes.
>Now it's just some wrinkly sad gay having a midlife crisis and dressing in teenager clothes
That's sad to hear anon. I hope you get better.
>20 shill tomes of allegan gayry have been deposited in your purse
Imagine your favorite childhood pizza place that you ate at for 15 years is replaced by McDonalds. You go in and it's the same guy who owns it and he says he always hated pizza and just wanted to buy a McDonalds. Then he sells you half of a bun with ketchup and a slice of processed cheese.
>Then he sells you half of a bun with ketchup and a slice of processed cheese.
The bros in a line gameplay is played out
Anyone that says they aren't fucking is delusional
who the fuck is Susie?
Jill's adult VA
What preview you baiting gay
I pre ordered since there’s no morons in it but I’m starting to get a bit nervous now.
>buying post squaresoft slop
>Squaresoft wasn't slop
Daily reminder that Square went down for a reason. They strayed further and further away from their shit tier god for years before the merger saved their retarded ass, and even then they continued with that same crap that lead them near bankruptcy and wow, what a shocker; it's culminating again and biting them in the ass. Stupid gays never learn. Maybe stop buying their "games" and play fucking Angry Birds or something. Goddamn mobile games have more gameplay than Final Fantasy.
Concept artwork and original soundtracks aren't gameplay, and Final Fantasy has nothing else of note. Other than fapbait, I suppose, and even then that's getting pretty lazy considering the amateur state of the teams they employ to do official and in-game rendering.
Have some fucking standards for yourself.
holy contrarian, next you'll tell me that Dark Souls are the only real RPGs in existence
or maybe you are a Thesdafag, that would be even funnier
What the fuck do either of those have to do with Square's incompetence? We can talk about Dark Souls if you want, I'll come over to your house.
SS was retarded and FF is coomer shit yes but this is still retarded
Kinda ironic Square fell off because Sakaguchi was trying to make a movie out of a video game, which is what most snoys games and modern FF been doing, game movies
unanimously said there is practically no RPG elements
Never been a problem before. Hell, Final Fantasy's entire identity was born from taking an established, albeit streamlined RPG formula and making it even more accessible and less engaging, removing the Player from the Role and boths impact on the game itself. Rendering them primarily as formalities to pretend the game is more than a visual novel with really bad writing.
Why is this all of a sudden, 35 years later, an issue?
Barry has become so neurotic. Is this his final push?
what do you think it would take for Bazzy to KyoAni the Square Enix offices
He's butt blasted that Yoshida slammed FF15 and the Forspoken dlc came out today and there hasn't been a single thread about it
I've been sort of getting the sense that there's some in-company feuds in SE. Ordinarily the Japanese tend to be too passive to directly criticize the work of a coworker.
Most of the people in charge of that game are no longer in the company, so it's free real estate to shit on it.
>Yoshida openly shit talking FFXV
Boy, Tabata and his goons must be quite something.
FF16 is unfinished for having no playable party or hidden dungeons or minigames
And FF16 is selling like shit so yoshitpisss glass house is about to shatter over him
Even the promise of Forspoken DLC this week isn't enough to keep his spirits up
He's absolutely traumatised
you might even call it his final fantasy
>While Final Fantasy XVI tries to make itself distinct enough from earlier entries in the series by being more “adult” in the way that character curse and have sex and there’s gore and blood and all of the hallmarks consumers quantify as being mature and worthy of attention, it felt oddly surface level. Like an homage to Western prestige television like Game of Thrones, without the meat of what made Game of Thrones interesting to begin with; which was the tension and drama between houses, and complexly written characters. (The developers have gone on record to say that there are fans of the show on the team, though Localization Direction Michael-Christopher Koji Fox did state that these would be mostly outward similarities, which is probably true.) Final Fantasy XVI could absolutely have this, but what I played leaves me feeling somewhat skeptical, especially concerning several major female characters introduced in the early hours of the game.
So much for muh mature Final Fantasy lmao
I don't get what you are going for here posting an interview from a fag who couldn't even keep the countries straight and spent 50% of his article making vague complaints about female characters and supposedly racist depictions of sandmorons when the Iron Kingdom isn't even brown people.
>but what I played leaves me feeling somewhat skeptical, especially concerning several major female characters introduced in the early hours of the game.
all you accomplished by posting that shit is make yourself look retarded
Yeah it's going to be another case of juvenile Jap trash
Isn't that what every FF purist want? They will be happy with XVI then.
It's missing the jap rpg element. The game is supposed to cater to western zoomers with GOT goyslop
Called it >>
"I am mad an attractive woman fucks an attractive dude in this videogame"
ftfy, absolutely saved your word count.
I would guess that a large part of Benedikta's characterization basically just boils down to sex for benefits
Women like that exist though so what's his issue?
sexual liberty is only okay when we say it is
no I don't know what puritanism is why do you ask
>especially concerning several major female characters introduced in the early hours of the game.
let me guess, they were offended that a woman was attractive.
The least ambitious final fantasy. I can't believe I lived long enough to see the debut trailer for a new mainline final fantasy and wasn't blown away by the cgi in any way whatsoever.
Even Witcher 3's cgi trailer mogs the shit out of anything they've released to promote this game. What a disaster. FF is now definitively downgraded to a AA franchise
I hope the game is shit just to disprove the people sucking it dryly
It doesnt even look great or innovative.
gonna fap to benedikta again
God-tier cinematic, which still looks objectively miles better than the recent FFXVI cinematics.
squeenix cinematics used to blow my mind as a kid
i still get mad when i remember all the scrapped CGI for Versus XIII
Romantic, intimate, and consensual sex with Jill.
>Jill looks like Stella
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
that scrapped versus cg would have been scrapped even if versus did come out
any 2006-2009 versus cg was deleted by 2010 when the entire visual design snd character designs were changed
That's 2013 xv stella aka proto luna
Not your literal who who looks nothing like them
the peak of the franchise. We'll never get a game this kino from SE again
>oh my heckin FFX
killed the series
moron it’s probably their best
Anything after X killed the series
>the recent FFXVI cinematics
we haven't seen any CGI from XVI yet what are you talking about
I think FFX cinematics lacked in direction and camera movement. Probably the worst of the bunch. Some shit like Sin attacking is terrible compared to any eidolon fmv from IX.
forgot the link. Just terrible direction.
I think it depends on people taste but FF used to incite the fantasy feelings that no other series can replicate, especially the shot where Auron appeared. FFIX is another series with amazing art direction, prob my top 3.
Yeah, FFVIII is also top notch in atmosphere, art direction, music, backgrounds, fmv, everything but the actual game. Kinda mind blowing how great it is in some aspect and some bad in others. Still, manages to be so good in some stuff that I cant even hate it.
FF7 got overrated and the people overreacted so much towards the overrating that I think its now underrated. Great game.
FF4, 6, tactics also all great.
God how I loved FF. Its never coming back. I enjoyed BD1.
yeah I enjoyed the series that I loved getting raped for 20 years too
Joshua is gonna be the Sarah here right?
Literal mcguffin shit
What's the origin of it's ogre?
barry give it up.
now die in piece june 22
Does Japan even gets ESG moeny to sustain itself like the Western game companies?
to me it seems like there's some kind of dull filter over the game, objects seem out of focus and almost "distant" looking even though they're up close. anyone else see it?
Is this what doomtrannies have stooped down to now? Jesus.
I mean, how the fuck is this even remptely Final Fantasy anymore? It looks and plays like a DMC spinoff, do you consider Bayonetta or MGR Final Fantasy? They're abandoning their roots to cater to a completely foreign audience.
FF died after 12
It is kinda insane how kotaku realized how acting like assholes made them be blacklisted by every company so now they are trying to be the most disingenuous they can with every article to baid clicks.
Seeing journalism evolve to this type of media that is constantly fighting and trying to make its readers mad is incredible.
the "RPG elements" in FF have always (or at least for long enough) been completely frivolous and unnecessary. there is no reason for the characters to level up instead of just calibrating the difficulty curve normally. there is no added depth or anything, it's there for no reason at all.
the combat was turn-based but without tactical depth, and so it had no reason to be turn-based. absolutely nothing of value was lost, and yet nostalgiafags will shit their pants because they dared to change something. who cares if it's for the better, how dare you do it differently!
This is true, stat grinders are their own genre now and are typically sandboxes that just add some vague context to stat grinding, Kenshi, Zomboid, etc...
Nobody cares about this game
Square Enix flew a handful of influencers out to live cushy lives, eat 5-star food, sleep at luxury hotels and get paid a boatload to play and write puff-pieces about FF16.
And of course they're going to do it, or else they won't be invited back next time.
Shouldn't this be the biggest red flag imaginable that these people's opinions are bought and paid for?
I'm not shocked the average normalfag falls for this, but I'm kinda surprised Ganker is eating it up too.
This thread is just shills regurgitating shit while screaming "Barry!" at the top of their lungs because they're retarded. I like to believe that they're a small loud minority and that the actual Ganker user sees through this shit.
This, we know Ganker is never wrong, remember ER,GoW,RE4,Zelda...
1 rupee has been been deposited into your account.
Why did you get mad, i agree with you 😉
>This, we know Ganker is never wrong, remember ER,GoW,RE4,Zelda...
Glad you're here, Lightning. It turns out FF16 will probably sell as well as your last game!
I dont have stocks at SE so i really dont care lmao.
>we know Ganker is never wrong, remember ER,GoW,RE4,Zelda...
All these games that will outsell FFXVI?
No, anon. Just showcasing how Ganker is great at point failures. They never miss.
I don't remember Ganker saying those games would score low tho??
Nta but you've got to be joking. The usual script is always about the games being a bomb or disaster. Dont you remember fucking Shazam? lol
You're arguing with an Indian man Anon. It doesn't matter what you say.
Thanks lad, I was about to respond seriously to the post above yours.
What, i hate ps, i just know ff16 will bomb next week.
>Ganker is never wrong, remember ER,GoW,RE4,Zelda...
Anon i dont want to start any discourse, but at this point i wonder what Ganker even got right. But doesnt matter because in one month after 16 releases people will either go to Starfield or Spiderman threads to shitpost.
Ganker is always right and wrong at the same time because the entire range of opinions get posted here
Idiots read a thread where people have a different view to them, get mad, then attribute that opinion to the entire website
Nah, at some point it was that way, more balanced. It's been some years that all the logic changed to complete contrarianism and focus on being negative. With every new game you'll have 80% being negative and 20% of the usual people who will defend them. And you know that, this is why threads for upcoming or new games are a shitshow, they attract more attention so more shitposters.
I would never say that Ganker is always right or wrong because there is a clear side to where anons always go to.
>Anon i dont want to start any discourse, but at this point i wonder what Ganker even got right
tortanic until tor flipped it around. they were right about cyberpunk for the wrong reasons (remember when anons believed it would have no day/night cycle?) and even that managed to flip its perception and can get some comfy threads going on.
forspoken and redfall were pretty spot on at least, not even normalfags liked those
GoW is fucking absolute garbage, if you're talking about Ganker thinking it's gonna fail or something, then yeah they're retarded for that one
But GoW is one of the worst games i've ever played.
It's 90+ on metacritics though. Wonder how XVI will score.
>It's 90+ on metacritics
Wow a game that appeals to the lowest commmon denominator scored high? how is that surprising?
XVI might actually reach 90+ because they're doing the exact same thing.
>always tries way too hard to sound smart.
Fucking where? everything i said is simple basic observations, your iq has to be a single digit to think what i said is trying to sound smart.
>XVI might actually reach 90+ because they're doing the exact same thing
I doubt it. Even the best FF games can only manage to score in the low 90s range.
tbf even the best games period back then only reached high 90s. the whole perfect score bit is relatively new and used to be exceedingly rare, particularly in comparison to how often we've gotten Final Fantasy games.
and it will be considered one of the best
>high production values
>walk and talk segments
>tries to be mature and dark just like my favorite hbo show or snk
>not much exploration
it's absolutely made for journos and normalfags.
just because games like totk or elden ring scored high doesn't mean these people actually like the things these games do, if it weren't for the nintendo or fromsoft bonus these games would've been shat on by these people.
Yeah anon, you're supee smart for not liking popular things. Oh golly gee wiz, I wish I was more like you, anon.
It seems like it may be common for the Dominants to infuse the at least some of the soldiers with their powers, and it isn't initially exclusive to Clive. That or this is just setting for a "skill" be used by an NPC but it's interesting that they'd make an animation for that if that's the case.
With the way they described the lock-on system, it really makes me feel like they may intend for the game to be played with it off
If any of you were expecting a good game after the dumpster fire that was FFXV, then I am sorry for your special needs. You should know by now that Square's head is too far up their own sphincter to care about quality or feedback. You'll enjoy Forspoken 2: Gay Knight Boogaloo, and you'll like it!
>tf2moron is retarded
>game isn't about 4 niggles in a row
I don't care about your transexual agenda.
This is either going to be an amazing, revolutionary game or a complete disaster. There is no in between.
I swear you people have developed Stockholm syndrome for SE. These people haven't made a good game since FF12 yet here you are cheering for a DmC clone with a last-seasons-GOT story.
Can't you people feel the wrongness of it in your bones?
Or do you not care anymore? Do you just consume slop and not think?
CONSUME PRODUCT, GAIJIN
>NOOO YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS GAME THAT MEANS YOU'RE A GOYSLOP CONSOOMER
>IP has not increased
SIR, THE NEEDFUL
you have developed Stockholm syndrome for these threads
Cope Yoshitpiss chuds
Can't even keep up the facade for more than one post.
and his true colors are revealed
don't you have a ZIV thread to police?
>I swear you people have developed Stockholm syndrome for SE. These people haven't made a good game since FF12 yet here you are cheering for a DmC clone with a last-seasons-GOT story.
>Can't you people feel the wrongness of it in your bones?
>Or do you not care anymore? Do you just consume slop and not think?
>IP did not increase
>IP did not increase
IP did not increase
le heckin 80 IPs, grim
IP did not increase
Or maybe it is just you who dont like their games anymore, anon. It is not a big mistery, you can move on.
Thinking there is a huge conspiracy or brainwash because people still enjoy their games is just copium.
Traditional FF has been dead for twenty fucking years, at least I can get a cool DMC game out of this
There's only a handful of ff16 schizos that are constantly on the defensive about this game, all the old school ff fans have moved on
The FF16 schizos also have a burning hatred for prior FF games and fans too. FF14 was the worst thing that could've happened to FF.
That reminds me way more of 13 and 13 Versus than it does of 14
The only animosity I see out of FF14 threads towards the rest of the FF franchise is directed at Barry (and by extension XV in order to antagonize him) since he has spent half a decade pissing and shitting himself about "Yoshitpiss" and "ZIVchuds" in their threads
XIV players are painfully aware that most of the team supposed to work on their game is working on XVI and it kinda shows. Patches have been pretty bare bones, patch cycles have grown longer and longer. Only good thing about XVI is that the devs can get their grimdark GoT wank out of their system and XIV can remain in line with games like IX and VI, tone wise.
The issues XIV is having have nothing to do with XVI and more to do with either a new game or 7.0 taking up a massive amount of dev time. Both are plausible, as XVII has probably already started preproduction and the very least, Ito is doing something, and Matsuno has been teasing a new game (though that might be more bait than anything)
Considering XVI has been wrapped up for almost an entire year at this point using it as a scapegoat is bizarre, but CB3 being stretched thin is clear enough. Sucks to have to carry the company on your back all the time.
*at the very least
Wasn't one of the main XVI dudes quotes recently saying he can't wait to get back to working on XIV again?
I don't know why everyone was shitting on the UI of Elden Ring but XVI has a really ugly UI.
what the fuck is this fanfiction you are spinning?
WHY DO YOU STILL BUY THESE GAMES PLEASE DONT DO IT SE ISNT GOOD STOP RIGHT NOW NOOOOO
They are unironically like this.
I wonder what changed, maybe "SE is going bankrupt next week" lost its momentum.
I'm excited for the game, but people need a reality check. FF has never had good writing. It's always been melodramatic anime trash. The reason the PS games are remembered so fondly is because the dialogue wasn't voice acted so the absurdly stupid shit being said wasn't heard aloud. Second is that the extended trailer way back for XVI had terrible writing from the word go. Cid and the Bird Lady yelling nonsense at each other before Clive kept shooting GRAARGH FUCK during the boss fight was hilarious. The game will probably be fun and hopefully worth the adventure. But I don't understand why a single person thinks it's going to be well written. None of the FFs are.
You're wrong tho, FF always had good stories, this is just revisionism that started in the 7th gen were people started pretending that gears of war had a good narrative.
I wonder what comes on those guy's heads when they say that a franchise famous for their characters and narrative doesnt have good stories.
Most franchises dream that fans still kept obsessed about their plots or characters of their old games for more than 25 years.
I cant stop thinking how it is just contrarianism.
Final Fantasy Tactics is written better than any western game
>Cid and the Bird Lady yelling nonsense at each other before Clive kept shooting GRAARGH FUCK during the boss fight was hilarious.
Point to the nonsense, please. And try to not sound too retarded when you do it.
>Final Fantasy Tactics
Love that game. I'm also clearly discussing the mainline titles, retard.
>Point to the nonsense please
You've got YouTube. Go watch it.
I liked the ideas XIII was trying to explore, but they dropped the ball in the end. Hope hyping himself up to be a murderer for half the game was worth it, though. I've liked all the mainline titles. I just never put them on a pedestal for being exemplary works of literature, so this sudden expectation for XVI to raise the bar is just funny to see.
to the nonsense please
>You've got YouTube. Go watch it.
No I've seen it, I want you to point out exactly what is "nonsense" you spineless cretin.
And, if you are talking about only mainline, XII exists and is nearly as good as Tactics.
>y-you spineless cretin!
I can see what you look like, virgin. The dialogue in particular was "GRRAARGH FUCK" and "FUCKING DOG" and Bird Lady having Cid in the palm of her hand to kill before nonchalantly exiting the room to allow Clive to save him and fight her henchmen. Retarded shit that the previews are now unanimously saying is retarded. But FF has always been retarded. Endearingly so. Like Squall traveling with his band of thirsty sluts and/or Sazh having a baby chocoholic in his afro. I'm not shitting on XVI itself. I'm asking where you overdefensive XVI gays have come from.
My favorite one.
>Nearly as good as tactics
I'd say better.
>and Bird Lady having Cid in the palm of her hand to kill before nonchalantly exiting the room to allow Clive to save him and fight her henchmen.
Benedikta doesn't want to kill Cid (or Clive, probably, if her conversation with him before is evident at all). Cid outright saves her from Clive at the end of the Ifrit fight. You are complaining about something we have no context for, the entire conversation they have makes reference to things we haven't seen. We don't know who the Dominant is, we don't know where she took the people from Lostwing, we don't know why Cid and Clive are there and we don't know why Benedikta is just hanging out in a castle in the middle of Sanbreque. Do you see the issue here? If it's nonsense it's probably because it's a verticle slice of a story with a lot of players and preexisting character relations.
>Retarded shit that the previews are now unanimously saying is retarded.
What? Please provide your source on this, I've seen nothing but praise outside of some tards getting asshurt over the lack of Blackids and sex.
>calling you a retard for acting like a retard is now "overdefensive"
No matter how much you repeat it it doesn't make it true. Someone telling you you are wrong and you immediately aping out about it tells more about you than anyone else.
>The dialogue in particular was "GRRAARGH FUCK" and "FUCKING DOG
Okay so fuck bad lmao. What a great example. Truly the peak of dialogue criticism, one might even call "fuck" nonsensical. I too got up and left the theatre during Wolf of Wall Street because they said fuck one too many times.
>Comparing the grim tone currently being advertised of XVI to Wolf of Wall Street
So because it's not fantasy.....it doesn't count? Okay, I'm sorry, fuck was still the most spoken curse in Game of Thrones in the first two seasons, so there, there's your fantasy comparison since we MUST have a fantasy comparison for our dialogue criticism.
Nice non-argument gay, and have fun trying to point to where in that post I said the story was a masterpiece. Oh wait, you can't, because it didn't happen. Try to make your next post not so asshurt and retarded, xo.
>because it's not fantasy it doesn't count?
Because XVI is being presented as a dark and grim adventure. Wolf is a jocular comedy. They're completely different properties. Apples, oranges.
>rest of this post
Much abloobloo over nothing.
>>rest of this post
>Much abloobloo over nothing.
>if I don't address it nobody will see that I got btfo'd
lmao, lol even
Address what? Your impotent seething and histrionic defense over a game that isn't out yet? I did address it. I said "seethe." May you continue to do so. I will be enjoying the demo then the full game in June.
Lmao, whatever helps you cope, gay. Must be hard living life as a retard, not that I'd know. Say sorry to your mom for me.
>Lmao, whatever helps you cope, gay. Must be hard living life as a retard, not that I'd know. Say sorry to your mom for me.
I mean, why don't you address the anon's criticism of your criticism? Benedikta was literally being choked by the dog's fangs, what the fuck do you think she's suppose to say? Just "Ugh, baka dog-senpai, don't bite me, bwaka, bwaka" ?
I did. I said the footage of Clive screaming FUCK followed by Benedikta screaming FUCKING DOG following the footage of letting Cid live despite obviously attempting to kill him were hilarious. He then asked I elaborate on YouTube footage everybody can see. What's the problem? I can't say that a new FF billing itself as a mature drama while also having a dog doing somersaults around a giraffe woman's neck isn't inherently ludicrous? I'm still looking forward to the game. You guys just lose your shit over the slightest criticism. I criticized the writing and silly dialogue seen thus far. Visuals, combat, the lore codex thing, Clive and Cid themselves... I haven't said anything about those. Because I like them. But EIKONS FORBID I make a joke against dialogue in a preview that was overwhelmingly met by mostly lukewarm reception. It was the State of Play trailer that turned the hype around. And I'm under no delusions that FFX, had it not been voice acted, would never have birthed the HA HA HA memes. And no, I'm not criticizing that scene either. Just reiterating my initial point that the nostalgia remains mostly intact because actors weren't sounding this silly shit aloud during the golden era.
>I said the footage of Clive screaming FUCK followed by Benedikta screaming FUCKING DOG following the footage of letting Cid live despite obviously attempting to kill him were hilarious.
What's "hilarious" about this entire sequence? What? You want every antagonist to just jump and stabs the protagonists in the jugular and the story just ends? You know what drama is don't you?
>I can't say that a new FF billing itself as a mature drama while also having a dog doing somersaults around a giraffe woman's neck isn't inherently ludicrous?
So, to you "mature drama" have to be realistic?
>What's hilarious about this entire sequence?
What I wrote.
>So, to you "mature drama" have to be realistic?
Oh god, are you one of those "ESL shills" I hear so much about?
>What I wrote.
There's literally nothing hilarious about it.
>Oh god, are you one of those "ESL shills" I hear so much about?
Then, why don't you elaborate what the hell do you even mean with your stupid buzzword? What do you consider "mature drama"? And why does a "mature drama" to you, could not have a "dog doing somersaults around a giraffe woman's neck".
>There is literally nothing hilarious about dogs doing circles around a woman's throat and throwing her into a building while the two opponents hurl f bombs back and forth
I suppose this is high drama if you watch anime. I like FF, so it's patently absurd, but I enjoy FF for that very reason.
>my first use was "game is being advertised as a mature drama"
Its first trailer involves blood being spilled over a kid's face before he's supposedly murdered, following a time leap wherein his brother is now branded, enslaved, and on a quest for revenge. The tone hasn't changed in any of the marketing since then and Game of Thrones has been cited as a direct influence. Is this hard for you to grasp? Is "buzzword" the word you default to when that mushy little brain of yours encounters words it can't parse?
>And why does a "mature drama" to you, could not have a "dog doing somersaults around a giraffe woman's neck".
nta but all of this and more happens in shit like Parasyte and it doesn't conflict with how "mature" the manga is at all
I don't really see what point you are trying to make
>point you are trying to make
Voice acting has revealed that FF dialogue has always been bad and anons shouldn't get so defensive when this is pointed out. FF games are by and large still fun adventures. Subsequent posts involve rebutting anons who purposefully misconstrue my original point while swearing their fealty to a game none of us have played.
>two opponents hurl f bombs back and forth
Why the lie.
>Its first trailer involves blood being spilled over a kid's face before he's supposedly murdered, following a time leap wherein his brother is now branded, enslaved, and on a quest for revenge. The tone hasn't changed in any of the marketing since then and Game of Thrones has been cited as a direct influence. Is this hard for you to grasp?
What's your point you dumb moron. Just because it has mature themes, it can't have a dog biting a women's neck, who's already in her half eikon form? Somehow this stops it from being mature? Are you dumb? You dumb retard.
The dog doesn't bite her long neck is looooong though. It literally uses her throat like a fucking gay poledancer on May.
>What's your point?
That Final Fantasy has always been retarded and that's part of the appeal. Cue the retards such as (You)rself getting bent out of shape faced with the knowledge that XVI will also be retarded. Stop being so whiny and retarded.
>a story with mature themes cannot have over the top elements
>why because it's unrealistic?
>huh, dumb esl!
>y-you just can't
>huh stop being whiny and retarded
Nice non-argument, gay. Don't know why I even bothered arguing with a moron on Ganker.
>Makes up conversation in his head to console himself
The inner machinations of an ESL are truly wondrous. I said the game was advertised as a mature drama and your fixation on that phrasing ever since has been a sight to behold. Are you insecure about the media you like? I watch Always Sunny in Philadelphia. There's some free ammo for you, little guy.
A game advertised as mature drama can't have over the top elements?
I never said it couldn't. I spoke very specifically about the scene I was making fun of and quoted it directly (FUCKING DOG) and you told me it wasn't funny. Because you're the funny police and your word is law! But if the previews are correct, and the Game of Thrones influence is earnest, and the trailers aren't hiding any lighter moments of levity and XVI is indeed a mostly grim story that takes itself seriously... Then yeah, Torgal doing backflips and swinging around Ben's neck like a corkscrew is just going to remain funny to me.
The dialogue might have been cringe but the story itself of XIII (the most underrated FF) was actually a well written and epic adventure.
>the most underrated FF
I absolutely refuse to let Ganker try to revise this history, XIII I s complete fucking garbage.
Keep coping gays, it was just trendy at the time to hate on the game and you cling to that to this day
Absolute fucking horseshit moron. There are a fuckton of problems with XIII
>game starts en media res and absolutely innundates you with jargonthat you have to pause the game and read through a shitty data log in order to make heads or tails of
>mis of the main cast are unlikable cunts and retards except for the token Black
>game is PAINFULLY fucking linear and mo, being on the run is not enough of an excuse to jsutif the entire game having shitty structure
>you're not even allowed to customize your party at all until the only nonlinear section of the game which is 80 percent of the way through and the only "cohent" available then is shitty optional kill quests
>the leveling system pretends to offer choices like the Sphere Grid but in reality is also completely linear since the story hard caps your progression and youre never forced to make any sort of choices developing your characters anyway
>tons of small dumb shit like OCDE BLUE NO CODE PURPLE NO ACTUALLY CODE WHITE that are too numerous to name individually
>the fact that pretty much nothing the party did even mattered because in the end they did exactly what the villain wanted and got LITERALLY Deus ex machina'd out at the end
Fuck XIII sucked. And fuck you for trying to trick people into thinking it doesn't.
It had plenty of bad points, but it also had a bunch of good ones. The ost was actually very good, the environment design was quite nice even in the linear areas but especially on pulse, it looks better than most environments in games released today still somehow. The battle system was a reasonable foundation, it had many flaws that realistically should have been addressed in sequels but weren't really. They addressed leader switching and also crystarium having actual choice, but not stuff like the inability to command characters to move like say in grandia so you don't just get clapped by unavoidable aoes. 13 was one of the worst final fantasies from 1-13, but from 13 onwards it still remains the best mainline final fantasy (its either 13 or 13-2). If squenix went back to putting out a game like ff13 every couple of years they'd be legitimately 100x better than the state of the ip currently lol
I think the funniest thing in the game for me was when they realize the whole trip to Pulse was completely pointless and the villain himself has to come down to get the party back on track.
Superpope is one of the few things I actually liked about XIII, he doesn't have a tragic bishie backstory he's just an evil robot god that wants to die and escape having to pamper and serve humanity for all eternity. Fun, purely evil villain which is something the series hadn't had since like FFV and Exdeath.
No. Tired of zoom zooms pretending its good because they want to fuck Lightening
Anon, no one wants to fuck Lightning.
You post just sounded like peak early 7th xenophobia for jap games. Protip: MOST writing is awful east and west. FF actually had okay plots when you look past the hokey translations
The melodrama is part of the appeal, anon. They're a bit like fairy tales and old school disney movies, they don't need (and shouldn't have) have realistic mature dialogue, they need whatever sets the right tone and atmosphere.
>The melodrama is part of the appeal, anon.
I know. I like them for that very reason. My point is wondering where all of these new XVI zealots have come from acting like this is going to be a deep and compelling narrative. It's going to be more anime angst about fighting crystals and evil puppeteers working evil in the background.
>y point is wondering where all of these new XVI zealots have come from acting like this is going to be a deep and compelling narrative.
Can you greentext the part where any person say this on the thread?
Or are you just angry because people want to see the story, so you act like people are dickrinding. Are they not allowed to be curious about a game's narrative?
Anon, this thread is filled with angry virgins complaining about previews saying negative things about the pacing of the story. They've played it. You haven't. I'm fully expecting to enjoy Clive fighting an under civilization and killing whoever was responsible for cursing humanity with eikons. I just want to know why you're crying so much about it.
>They've played it.
They've been PAID to play it, and write puff-pieces about it.
Which previews are you talking about? because kotaku is literally clickbaiting with every article they can because they realized how the only format to drive engagement up is by doing hate articles.
I read all the articles, and if there is problems about 16 that people commented on, it was about lighting issues or lack of any sidequests at the start.
Not a single comment on the narrative of the game, so i wonder if you just read a random greentext ant took it as a fact.
And no, kotaku did not play the game. This is the point, they stole and copied articles of other journos who actually played the game.
Got it, you're just mad because people are curious about the plot so you larped an entire scenario and starded a trash discussion about how every FF actually has bad narrative.
>XVI zealots have come from acting like this is going to be a deep and compelling narrative. It's going to be more anime angst about fighting crystals and evil puppeteers working evil in the background.
You could boil down Book of the New Sun to angsty sex with evil puppeteering aliens in the working evil in the background and that wouldn't stop it from being one of the most complex and well-written fantasy stories in existence.
The writer for XVI is unproven and nothing has been shown to pull the trigger on the game being awful, angsty or otherwise. I don't see why you are so torn up over people being interested in the story of a Final Fantasy game, you still have people in the fanbase championing X to this day despite it being an extremely simplistic vanilla love story with le heckin sad ending.
I think that people who can only praise a game by talking shit about previous entries is retarded, but what you're doing is just as stupid. At the end of the day you're just bothered by interest in FF16 so you started a silly point about how they shouldnt be interested because all the franchise has bad stories.
>Bothered by interest in FF16
My PS5 is primed and ready and the emo anime adventure of a former slave turned super saiyan fireball wielding badass is my most anticipated game of the year. I'm not shitting on XVI lmao. I love Final Fantasy. All of them (mainline). I think you retards who are so adamant about XVI being a masterpiece before it's even out just need to chill. I remember when XV was still VersusXIII and getting its dick sucked every day on Ganker. I had the same opinion then, got shit on by the same type of crybabies, and lo and behold, XV was... all right. Fun for a playthrough. But not the masterpiece so many deluded themselves into saying it would be.
But this is what i dont get it, can you link me a single post on this thread saying the story will be a complete masterpiece?
You're acting like wanting to see the story is already this. Literally no fun or interest allowed.
Ganker just became a place that if you're positive about things you're either a tendie,snoy,xbot or a marketing guy. You cannot like videogames in this place
Look at all that seethe. He's invested. I'm just waiting for the cringe anime kino.
The other guy is also retarded, starts argument with a "virgin", he's stupid to take a person like that seriously.
FF has had plenty of good writing (FFX's story is kino as fuck metaphysics), just not dialogue. It seems like FF16 will have neither.
Damn why are you even here if you clearly don't like the game, holy shit
>you clearly don't like the game
It isn't out yet. Do you like it? How's it end?
Holy shit this. First it starts with Cid and her talking in circles "You betrayed me!", "Nu-uh, you betrayed yourself", "Damn you!" , "Is that really what you think?" Like what the fuck does that even mean?
And then both have a Dragon Ball Z powerup cutscene fight where the Hero just stands on the sidelines like Krillin and watches as Cid gets smashed into a statue, and what happens next? The chick just fucks off and leaves you to her henchmen, but completely ignores Cid whos just laying there and couldve been finished off right then and there but nah fuck it.
And afterwards Hero goes to Cid whos all like "I have to catch my breath" and then proceeds to the rooftop no problem and basically soloes blonde chick by himself, wow! If it was that easy why didnt they fight like that in the first place? Why artificially pad out the shitty drama? It's like there's a complete disconnect between gameplay and atmosphere. They are just aping Game of Thrones aesthetic, but you never see GoT characters zip zooming around like DBZ characters for good reason. The flashy combat with all its sparkles and effects just doesn't mesh well with the dark and gritty tone it so desperately wants to emulate. It's all so retarded.
Is there any way to turn down the particle effects at all?
It looking fucking atrocious
Am I the only one starting to see patterns in these threads?
>any criticism or non-positive opinion is Barry
>anyone who talks about XIV is a doomer and need to pray to Yoshi for forgiveness
>pointing out that the game looks like a PS3 game rarely receives any direct counter arguments but is quickly buried and overlooked
>those who call out shills are also Barry
>bringing up the paid YouTube previews is frowned upon
>pointing out that advertising in these threads blew up the 22nd of this month is laughed at as a conspiracy theory
>bringing up trailer views is negative because they don't mean anything - unless it's positive for FF16 in which case its confirmation of success
>if all else fails just scream Barry
I can't believe we have to stomach another fucking month of these crap threads.
You think it'll be over when the game releases? That's when we get the Second Wave and at least another month of shilling.
You can also add "talking about older FFs is ignored, and if compared to FF16, frowned upon".
>all the positive opinions are deranged cultists while all of the detractors are cool and smart people
This seems like an unbiased opinion to me for sure fellas
I'm more impressed by the fact you actually read those pastas.
It's a post complaining about shills and you're expecting applause?
Its like they became what they feared the most, now if you talk negatively about anything in an FF game you just have some terminal thread-watcher call you Barry
the yoshi-P cultists have never had to deal with actual FF fans so theyre always coping
Yeah, actual FF fans that calls FFXV a masterpiece. That says FFX's summons is not important to the story.
>*is quietly the best FF in your path*
That was such a fun game. I loved monster hunting.
never have any faith in squenix, they don't deserve it and have proven they are actively retarded consistently.
until they manage to not be retarded consistently nobody should trust anything they say
YoshitPiss has always been a hack.
How much you wanna bet Yoshitpiss commits seppuku when this shit flops, then 14 crashes and burns without him, and takes the whole company to insolvency.
FF wont die, tendie, as much as you wish
XIV would be in a much better place without Yomoron P. Man ruins everything he touches.
Yeah, cause it was such a smash hit under Tanaka that nips branded it Chinal Chontajii 14.
wow thank god we have such immersive and interactive fast 2deep5me gameplay
This game isn't j- drama tier anymore? they copied HBO shows lol
woah a modern SE game where the polished PR material was all fake as fuck?
demo after the sony thing today bros
I would bet on the 12th, not today.
It's not an RPG, it's a devil may cry game with political intrigue, graphic gay sex, and dire wolves.
Do people enjoy doomposting for hours? Is it my other fellow millennials not aging well?
Well, the entire board is this with new games, so probably yes. But remember your average 40-50 year old that is jaded as fuck? imagine as time goes on and this happens with people who grew up with vidya and visit these boards. Nightmare.
braindead cinematic DMC with same old hallway level design. Big yikes.
this is the FF game I have been waiting for all my life and half of you are attacking it and saying it sucks and the game is not even out yet
this is the first FF in a very long time that doesn't have kids or cute shit in it. It is made for a mature audience and it is inspired by Game of Thrones. This game will be amazing and I will laugh at all you gays here who said it was going to suck. it will be GAME OF THE YEAR and I will make a thread here and laugh at all of you when it happens I already took a picture of this thread with the comments that attack the game!
>people are shitposting about how elemental weaknesses don’t exist in the game (they do) and how RPG elements don’t exist (they do) instead of addressing the shit that actually matters
Anyone else concerned about the lack of hit reactions on large enemies/bosses? I know that you can basically play around with small enemies to your heart’s content but I’m getting pretty tired of break mechanics if they’re not going to be implemented in an actually interesting way.
>elemental weaknesses don’t exist in the game (they do)
confirmed by the devs they don't
>Anyone else concerned about the lack of hit reactions on large enemies/bosses?
I don't think this is really a problem with the way the dodges and parries are implemented. With non-humanoids you are going to have Titan's block/parry to keep up the flow, and the nat parry still works on some (?). Perfect dodges are able to be used sequentially and counters seem like a good way to play. Will have to actually get my hands on it to see for certain, but a lack of hit reactions are only annoying when you don't have a good ways to counter them/continue "playing", as the fight stops feeling like a back and forth and starts feeling more simon-says-y.
Personally speaking, as someone who’s played shit like Tales of Arise, I’m getting pretty sick of perfect dodging being used as a substitute for in-depth defensive options but the fact that this game does have a parry does raise some hopes for it, even if it needs to be seen how well its implemented. I’m more concerned about the enemy attack patterns and types because an action game is only half as good as its enemies.
It has been said that the dodge is only as useful as the user, it can't be used in succession if it isn't a perfect dodge (or precision in the action feed). Also, I feel that especially in high level gameplay the parries are going to be much more useful for keeping you close and in the action, Titan's specifically allows you a massive counter window that eats the stagger bar and Phoenix's projectile parry does the same. The dodge seems more like a nudge, or crutch, probably more useful for the battles with big AoEs than anything. The only counter option from a perfect dodge is another dodge or a charged shot, which just seems very low in utility and effectiveness in comparison.
The only info I've seen on the enemy design was someone musing about the humanoid enemies being more fun to fight, which imho is a given. Apparently the dragoon fight from the opening section is fantastic. I reckon as the player fills out the ability tree more readily the enemies will start getting more complex, especially with the hunts.
With Flopspoken and FF15 shitting the bed, I can't see how Barry doesn't realize that his shit taste runs contrary to everything that is actually good and fun.
This is the real article for the coping shills
barrybrosssss take me home
This will still be the best game SE releases this year and you know it.
unless OT2 ends up being incredible
Not a high bar. You've got Forspoken at the very bottom and uuuuuhhh some other shit.
As someone that's a longtime Square fan, it's sad that I'm only interested in this game because of the Capcom-style gameplay. Nothing else about the game seems captivating so far. No charm to the world or characters, or even care about being an actual RPG like SaGa or DQ.
It'll be a good game but FF will still be dead to me. Kind of a shame, really.
>damn these physics are so heckin goofy I guess all of the maturity of Berserk just doesn't count now
>damn I wish I could read but manga are the only things I can follow so I'll just miss the point entirely and seethe
what's ur favorite fantasy book anon I'll point out some goofy shit from it
I haven't read fantasy since I was a young teenager, but to your question: The Bartimaeus Trilogy. Very kino.
unfortunately I'm not in the business of dunking on YA books but I'm sure they are fantastic, anon
I typically avoid fantasy novels because their prose is more often than not total dogshit, but if there are ones you'd recommend I'm open to suggestions. I like the idea of hunkering down with a good fantastical adventure. I just haven't found one.
NTA but I hear The Kingkiller Chronicle is pretty good, but fair warning its (real) women that have told me this. I meant to get around to reading it too see exactly what it is that they love about it, for research purposes.
I'll check it out, thanks.
if at all possible don't listen to
, Brandon Sanderson should be shot and his body thrown into a fucking ditch
if you are a major prosefag the only books I can really recommend are Gene Wolfe's stuff, that and obvious choices like Lord of the Rings which I am assuming you've already read and/or don't have interest in. you are right in that fantasy is pretty much devoid of good prose, but imho that's only because the bar of entry for fantasy novels is pretty much the lowest of the low.
if you are willing to put up with bearable prose, Michael Moorcock's stuff is another 80s classic that has more than enough worth in it to be "good", but I mean that in a specifically fantasy sense and not in a literature sense.
oh sorry no wait Kingkiller isn't by Sanderson, that's the cuck books
either way avoid it, it's also unfinished iirc and the main character is literally just Kirito from SAO but a cuck instead of a gigabro chad.
>Brandon Sanderson should be shot and his body thrown into a fucking ditch
Elaborate so I don't waste my time with them
Will second this, enjoyed the Dancers at the End of Time stories.
>Elaborate so I don't waste my time with them
McDonalds of fantasy, awful prose, awful characters, awful plot, it somehow reminds me of the Dragon Age/Elder Scrolls games in that it's completely and utterly unremarkable and drab and yet everyone seems to care about it for some reason
this can be applied to literally every book he's ever written
pic related is the cuck passage from the Kingkiller books, not related to Sanderson but it's worth demoing before subjecting yourself to 3/4ths of a book just to have to watch any goodwill undone in seconds
Kek that explains why the femoids loved it. Thanks for delivering anon.
Thank you both. I'll give both Gene Wolf and Moorcock (More... Cock? Sounds like a Pynchon character) a look.
Does the pro-YoshiP crowd honestly think anything in this game will even be as good as this scene? I feel like they’re huffing copium honestly. Not that I think this scene is that great anyway. Its not even in my top 5 FF moments. But FF XIV fags only played 14 and nothing else, so I guess its fair to ask
>R-R-Remember us... T__T
This is one of the worst scenes ever. Some retarded "muh ancient race" gay who is on maximum cope because his race was sorted out by nature (in the end the whole race was too dumb) is killing millions over millions just because he want his friends back. ;_;
Do I need to be depressed or a social outcast to like stories like this?
This. I guess when you're drip fed the story over years then feelings can be manipulated better, but when you look at the chain of events logically and in a shorter time-frame, it's fucking retarded.
The lack of Japanese lip sync and even Yoshida insisting that the britbong voiceover is the way the game is meant to be experienced is a dealbreaker. People like to say that FF has been a shadow of its former self for a long time but with XVI it truly feels like FF is dead for good.
>it's the voice acting meltdown moron again
One thing that's interesting is how it seems like this game is the one who's going for a linear and closed spaces focused zones.
People believed the game was going to be open because it is the mmo team, but it's not the case.
I'm seriously seeing a scenario where Rebirth is the game focused on open zones.
Would make sense, games are releasing close to each other but would be really different.
That anon just reeks of insecurity
Tabata is currently sucking cock on the streets of Tokyo to make ends meet. His wife left him for a Black man and he's legally not allowed to see his daughter.
Sounds like some Yakuza sub story.
ZODIARK TRAAAAAANCE!!!!! PLEEEEAAAAAASE!
Another bazzkek pants shitting session. Hold on, let me grab some wine and cookie.
Leak my balls
the january Ganker story and game detail leak has been 100% correct
what about our boy, Terry Goodkind?
here comes the XV autist melty
Lmao they're actually trying to make
>Sonyshit, Japan =O
When it drops and its just Square trying to ape shit like God of War Rangarok I'll laugh at all the Capkuck cope
Tick-tock, less than a month left before Barry ropes.
this game has zero hype around it.
Outside of the mmo, FF series feels like only NA boomers that somehow still play games at 30+ gaf about it.
>areas are linear
>combat is monotonous
>cutscene quality falls off quick
>empty open fields
Scheiße spiele tbh
I wouldn't listen to the words of a compulsive liar trying to drag down another game because it's currently stealing the limelight from his favorite "N SYNCs BACK ALRIGHT" flavored dildo.
>autist is clearly pressing TWO buttons with R1+O on easy mode and wait mode and still gets hit taking damage while having wait mode on and using one of the strongest base game regular weapons in the game Durandal with elemental advantage against one of the weakest grunt mob enemies in the entire game while having a full 5 member party
Meanwhile FF7R is one button action and has a mode that requires no buttons to win
>Kitase: This is one button action.
Also FF16 is literally a one button action game
>a game that has no need for certain design elements is "objectively incomplete"
This is like saying not having swappable party members or no turn based combat is "objectively incomplete". I guess FFXV really is "objectively incomplete" to you.
>he's still on damage control
>y'see its a good thing yoshiP made ff16 a visual novel with no music and only one color pixel squares and no combat system or story because that is what Yoshi-P wanted so that means its not unfinished compared to other FF games content wise!?
holy fucking cope
>ysee, ff16 doesnt have minecraft creative mode so its incomplete despite there being no need for it at all
holy cope, i hope you're bracing yourself for the inevitable success of the game
FF16 is incompetent becoming it has no party, someone evert ff has had
no ff has mincecraft creative mode you strawmanning fuck
xv has party commands, wait mode and a functions party as well as character swap
ff16 has no party and is thus unfinished
Hey, it's you definition, not mine. You're the one who defined a game not having a mechanic from previous entries being "objectively unfinished". Don't shoot the messenger. You've shot yourself in the foot, dummy.
>tendie hiding behind 15
>tendie-kun still here
>Been at that same amount for over 5 years
stellafag on suicide watch
>Been at that same amount for over 5 years
A Japanese guy is still running a petition to have versus xiii released. please sign it.
Based. Barry will forever seethe. No one likes his game. Not even the japs.
I unironically enjoyed XV for what it is to be honest. Then again my taste is weird. But hearing about what could have been and all the unused assets on XV made me realise its true potential.
It is. I just want the promised Romeo and Juliet.
that is so unbelievably autistic it's almost based
He makes a good point here, I can imagine the Hideaway not being directly walkable as it's supposed to be a, well, hideaway, but I have to wonder if the other areas are going to be connected or if it's going to be solely fast travel, like is it possible to go walking from a large area into a dungeon or a large area into a town.
Yeah, I suspected it'll be like this. Pretty disappointed. At least just give us a loading screen or transitional screen like the camera panning up or something. Having it opening the map menu everytime you reached the border is pretty stupid. I really, REALLY hope that it's just the Hideaway but the interview seems to suggest otherwise.
My cope right now is that the Hideaway on the map is obviously separated from the rest of the map and in the middle of the "deadlands" or whatever.
I wish someone had asked them real questions and not retarded eceleb shit.
All areas on the world map have direct connections like lostwing is apart of the Sanbreque zone (an example not confirmed) and you reach it by going through the Greatwoods dungeon you don't have a teleport to take you there if the explanation given by Cid in the preview footage is anything to go by. I'm assuming the hideaway is basically a separate zone which is why it functions the way it does. Doesn't make sense imo to open the world map literally every time the player exits a part of the zone especially when fast travel has seemingly no cost and can be done anywhere in a zone.
>like is it possible to go walking from a large area into a dungeon or a large area into a town.
They literally show this in the PAX footage.
Mate, they literally didn't.
Mate that's not what I would consider a "big town". Also, what we're talking about is the transition between the big areas. Like if were to go from the Dhalmekian territory to Rosaria or Sanbreque's, kinda stuff. But I do notice some "gates" at every border. I guess the debate is still open. I really hoped that the guy from the article asked the devs about it.
One of the articles said it was like FFXIV with the blue dot area border/gate indicators.
>One of the articles said it was like FFXIV with the blue dot area border/gate indicators.
I don't play XIV. Can you elaborate or show example.
NTA but basically when you reach the border of a zone they connect to a neighboring one but not completely there's like an invisible gap (loading screen transition) separating each zone in XIV. They visualize it using blue dots (if the zone can be accessed at that time) and when the player crosses those dots they load into another zone. It doesn't open a world map or anything.
I see. I guess I'll just have to wait for the game's release. Having two conflicting articles isn't really helping, but thanks for explaining.
Exactly the same as it is in FF XII.
Nta but they've said in other interviews that zones do contain towns and some dungeons and side quests are connected directly to the open zones. We can literally see Clive in Martha's rest and its apart of Three Reeds not a separate instance. I think the worry is more can I go from Three Reeds to the bordering Dhalmekian zone without going into the world map and selecting a location. I'm guessing no since how do you reach that zone to begin with? You don't get the teleport spots automatically so I'm assuming it's similar to XIV where you 'attune' or unlock the tp points.
There is that scene in the boat in that one trailer, could have like small travel cinematics that cart you to the new area and from then on it's just a point on the map? Like you take a boat to the Crystalline Dominion or some shit and then you spend that section of the game working outwards from that point, picking up the towns and stuff in the explorable area and if you ever want to go back you just teleport to the CD main plaza again.
>*Reverse chokeholds you*
>*teleports behind you*
>*Grabbing thin air, seeing blurry images as he slowly loses consciousness*
*teleports behind you*
*teleports behind you*
*teleports behind you*
>*still writhing in pain*
Imagine being psyop'd by the biggest XV shiteater alive.
i think it will be very polished because it will also be very simple, no playable party, very linear, no elemental damage or weakness, a more simple dmc combat which is already very simple
Also those fucking inspirations for the game are awful
>SnK GoW GoT
i guarantee you the character dynamic will be the absolute worst, and we are gonna have a garbage generic revenge is le bad story.
I sure am excited for another circus like FF XV
Maybe this one will finally put Final Fantasy to rest to Square cant rape it anymore with their retardation
>another circus like FF XV
not gonna happen see
it's trying to appeal to the very lowest common denominator, so it will 100% be a success.
Oh wow, you're so cool, anon. You sound so smart too!
You don't have be smart to see it, just don't be a blind fanboy, just read every interview, and see how hard they're trying to appeal to Westerners
>Linear and "cinematic"
>Braindead combat, already started with xv but still
>GoW GoT SnK garbage stories that appeal to Westerners
>linear and cinematic
This is "appealing to Westerners"? So um, isn't this like, every FF after VI?
>Braindead combat, already started with xv but still
Instead of what? Spamming the same abilities over and over again, but in turns?
>GoW GoT SnK garbage stories that appeal to Westerners
These are "garbage"?
>This is "appealing to Westerners"?
Yes like every fucking modern sony game
>So um, isn't this like, every FF after VI?
Cutscenes aren't walking segments where you do nothing for hours but holding the stick forward
>Spamming the same abilities over and over again,
We both know that you used your brain far more than what we are getting with ffxvi which will be completely braindead
>These are "garbage"?
Yes, they're shitty generic stories that pioritize muh message over logic with shitty character dynamics
Why do you cunts who obviously know jackshit about anything always tries way too hard to sound smart.
Dont call me, XVI-kun.
It is I, Kagari. The true Final Fantasy fan. You Bazztek are a fake fan. No doxxing or rape threats will change that.
This is interesting, I don't think Sakimoto would work at all for the type of game XVI is.
All that said, I can't believe a French MTL review is the most levelheaded take on the game I can find.
Congrats on finally getting a (You) from dreambon, barry. Forspoken still flopped so hard it killed an entire studio
Dreamboum is literally on suicide watch
I hope my son isn't giving you any trouble Ganker
Such a troublesome boy, ever since his father left to buy a pack of crocodile meat and never came back, he's been spending days in his room yelling very loud unsolicited, opinions about XIV and XVI.
Is my little boy going to be okay, Ganker?
>"Are ya winnin, s-OH MY GOSH! Where are your pants?!?!?! Why is there an image of me having sex with this Nathan fellow on your monitor?
You've got some explaining to do, mister."
It truly is over.
I really wish these threads weren't like this.
welcome to Ganker
We can only hope Barry actually does kill himself at some point. It's amazing how even with other shitposters, just Barry being absent when he's asleep or shitting up Twitter instead markedly improves the quality of threads.
He didn't kill himself when Forspoken massively flopped so I doubt he'll do it any time soon. At best, you can expect him to cope by somehow assuming the ff15 team helped with ff16 in some way even though they were busy with Flopspoken.
when has there ever been a good ff thread
It's a battle of autism. I fucking hate this retarded fanbase. I've been playing ToTK for these past few days, being all happy and having fun. Going back here, reading these dumb fuckery just pisses the fuck out of me. Don't know why I even bothered coming back to this shithole. It's not even fun to talk about vidya, especially FF over here nor everywhere else. It's constant tribalistic bullshit. Don't these people ever get tired of being angry 24/7?
It's so funny to me that 90% of what we've seen of Garuda is just a complete rip of Sirene down to her attacks and yet every single retard journo and gay in this thread is screaming and ripping their hair out about muh western muh Game of Thrones
fucking poser gays
Not entirely their fault innit, Yoshida keeps bringing up GoT influences.
Yes, it is their fault, they've got no right to be crybabies when their entire internalized vision of Japanese culture boils down to feminized men and sanitized bloodless media.
Yoshida entertaining their retardation does nothing to erase it.
>Story? I'm skeptical
>The script is dense with cliches... "War is coming, my boy. We must make ready."
>Weak one-liners: "I think we made it angry!" "I’d rather we made it die."
>And lots of: "Fuck fuck fuck fuck"
So this... is the power of an M-rated Final Fantasy
Who's this? I've never heard of him
Someone that actually got the misfortune of actually playing the game in person
Former kotaku editor in chief lmao. It's the gaming journo equivalent of early life section.
>>The script is dense with cliches... "War is coming, my boy. We must make ready."
how is this a......cliche?
I'm glad I'm not the only one confused by that, it makes him seem like he's trying way too hard.
How is it not, you inbred, actively coping retard?
How is it cliche'd? A normal ass line about an obviously older person reminding a younger person a war is coming, is a cliche? Are you dumb? Is "I love you" a cliche too you fucking nonce.
You obviously did, you dumb moron.
How is one character telling another character that the country needs to be prepared for war an "overused phrase or opinion". Like, are they just supposed to not address the coming war because it triggers your autism? Something that fuckin vague doesn't constitute a "cliche", that's like saying a character breathing a sigh of relief is a "cliche". That isn't how cliches work.
>he's right behind me isn't he
>>Weak one-liners: "I think we made it angry!" "I’d rather we made it die."
see but you have to read this in Ralph Ineson's accent to make it true to life
something like OHRD REATHER E MAKE EIT DIE
So his word is basically worthless.
This game has got to have the most rabid emotionally unstable fanboys I've seen in quite a while. Watching these gays lash out at people who entertain the very idea that FF16 might have a few sour notes like some deranged religious fundamentalists is already better entertainment that whatever Yoshida was able to put into FF16.
okay so you weren't in the Elden Ring threads
Glad you're so mad people are hyped for a game lol
>the most rabid emotionally unstable fanboys I've seen in quite a while
This claim could be immediately disproven the moment you enter any totk threads.
So, you can't point out retarded criticms at all, and just accept whatever bullshit, wholesale? Care to entertain us why, "War is coming my boy" is "cliche'd"?
"War is coming, my boy" is a cliche writing for a fantasy game because it is an overused phrase that shows a lack of originality and creativity. It is a common example of the **prophecy** trope, which is when the story foretells the protagonist's actions, usually as a hero who rises up to vanquish evil1. Some readers actually say they hate this trope because it tells you what's going to happen before it has unfolded1. It also implies that the protagonist is a **chosen one** or a **surprise royal**, which are other cliches that appear frequently in fantasy stories123. A better way to write this sentence would be to avoid using vague and predictable words like "war" and "boy", and instead use more specific and descriptive language that reveals something about the character, the setting, or the conflict.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 24/05/2023
(1) 13 Overused Clichés to Avoid in Your Fantasy Novel - HobbyLark. https://hobbylark.com/writing/cliches-to-avoid-in-your-fantasy-novel.
(2) How To Avoid Cliches In Fantasy Writing - Richie Billing. https://richiebilling.com/fantasy-writing/how-to-avoid-fantasy-tropes-cliches.
(3) Top 10 Most Overused Cliches In Fantasy - Brad Peirson. http://www.bradpeirson.com/top-10-most-overused-cliches-in-fantasy/.
(4) Top 51 Fantasy Clichés to Avoid? (Revitalize Your Writing). https://www.purpleshelfclub.com/fantasy-cliches-to-avoid/.
bro really just used AI
AI is smarter than your average AAVE FF16 gay and that was a pretty accurate answer. I'm not gonna waste energy googling why your shit game sucks for the sake of an argument in a soon to be autosaged thread.
>and that was a pretty accurate answer.
That wasn't even close to accurate, prophecy and chosen one narratives have nothing to do with "war is coming". Jesus did you even read it before posting?
bro really just defended using AI because he's too fucking stupid to write his own argument, holy shit you can't make this up
>it's accurate because it pulls info from some random hobbyist sites
>indian/paki using AI to help his shitty argument
kek, you really can't make this shit up.
>throws in "y-you're black" for muh kewl Ganker cred
look in the mirror for once. lmao.
the links to these sites don't even have anything to do with the "war" line, it hallucinated the prophecy and chosen one cliche instead and the links only talk about that.
I would argue that the line "War is coming, my boy. We must make ready" is not a cliché for the following reasons:
Context: The line is set in a fantasy setting, where conflicts and wars are often central to the storyline. In this context, it is natural for characters to discuss the impending war and the need to prepare for it. Therefore, the line directly addresses the situation at hand, emphasizing the urgency and the necessity for action.
Emotional Connection: The phrase "my boy" adds a personal touch to the line, establishing a relationship between the speaker and the recipient. It implies a mentorship or a parental figure advising a younger character. This creates an emotional connection and adds depth to the characters involved, making the line more meaningful and relatable.
Foreshadowing: The line serves as a foreshadowing device, hinting at an upcoming conflict that will shape the narrative. Foreshadowing is a common technique used in storytelling to build tension and anticipation, creating a sense of excitement for the audience. In this case, it prepares players for the challenges and adventures that lie ahead in the game.
Tone and Style: The language used in the line reflects the fantasy setting and adds a sense of gravitas. The choice of words, such as "war" and "make ready," contributes to the overall atmosphere and helps establish the genre. By maintaining a consistent tone and style throughout the script, we can immerse players in the fantasy world and enhance their gaming experience.
Character Development: Depending on the context and the characters involved, this line can contribute to their development. It can showcase a mentor figure imparting wisdom, a leader rallying their troops, or a parent preparing their child for the harsh realities of the world. Through this line, we can explore the motivations, fears, and growth of the characters, making it more than just a cliché.
All me and I'm trans, btw.
In the end, retarded FF16 moron ran to ChatGPT for help right after crying tears from about it earlier, lmao.
that's not the point at all, I posted this to illustrate that AI can shit out a bunch of pargaraphs for whatever argument you want it to defend, so it shouldn't be used to "prove" anything. I'm glad you found this convincing though.
>In the end, retarded FF16 moron ran to ChatGPT
Isn't that what you literally did?
I can't wait for this game to bomb bros. I can't wait for the cope.
I can see that. It'll still be dozens of times better than any other Squeenix game out this year.
I see some of you attacking FF15 when it was that fagget NOMURA who fucked the game during development and the SE executives removed him and told Tabata to save the game
Tabata did just that, he saved FF15 and instead of congratulating him they screwed him over and fired him
RIP Tabata, now he makes shit mobile games
Final Fantasy is completely dead until some higher up gets a bug up his ass about what the seris should be. Considering every game since FF13 has had the exact same problems (style over substance, overdesigned bullshit, focus on effects and graphics, confusing and nonsensical plots, dull and unmemorable characters) the problem doesn't seem to be the result of one person or even a small group. It's a much larger problem that likely starts at the top.
facial animations suck
They didn't even try, even in important emotional cutscenes. The NPC ones just look unacceptably atrocious.
they went for an anime look you idiot. they did not make the character look real.......what don't you understand
the characters in xenoblade 3 emote way better than this
SE is just a washed up as fuck company kept afloat by their mobile games and sony's welfare cheques
Of course it's a xemoron
CUM IS LOW
Do I need a ps5 to play this or will my 4slim handle it
another successful thread of absolutely nothing being accomplished
I can't wait till June 22nd
looks like Yoshi P is a moron that has to copy Tabata
>hack copying a hack
That's like being a hack squared.