https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/releases/download/v1.0.0/1.0.0.zip
note: now the development will shift towards fixing the bugs
Project Alice 1.0 is out
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/releases/download/v1.0.0/1.0.0.zip
note: now the development will shift towards fixing the bugs
spudnig btfo
>why do project alice threads always go to shit?
>first replys aren't about project alice but openvic
Openvic is the spectre haunting project alice, even in threads explicitly about project alice, talk about openvic dominates the thread immediately.
zamn trips, let's make an OpenVic thread next so we can compare the posts
Reminder to spartan322 because I know you're reading this, you're a dumb, incompetent Black person and your idiocy and lack of programming ability is probably half the reason why openvic will never be finished while Project Alice is literally released right now.
Seethe and mald you incompetent failure, then have a nice day.
SCHOMBERT WON
lmfao
>we aren't competing
>meanwhile our public rep and guy that delusionally thinks he's in charge of the whole thing (Spudgun) constantly seethes about Project Alice and will go on a giant rant everytime it's mentioned
I've been rooting for OpenVic since day 1 and the schizos in these threads are insane, but man this is just sad to see. The copium levels are off the charts, holy shit man. It's not even funny, just a bit depressing seeing them get humiliated so hard. Especially seeing the "ugh ew Ganker so toxic" larp when they're all very obviously Ganker users. God damn, the cope
Thats an August post...
>it's been going on for over 8 months
oh no... oh no no no no
>schizo dunks on himself proves hes a shill
spudgun sissies are unironically mindbroken and in complete disbelief
literally coping about it being a buggy mess without even opening the exe, because they're afraid of the speed claim being verified, kek.
By the troony dev's own admission it's a buggy mess
you are the one coping
where
More straws, sire?
I'm starting to think you're leaf with how defensive you are about this shitty project
>hyperbolical generic statement said by every programmer in existence
what's your point, schizo
and Schombert fixes after him or pushes him towards the solution
>wow dude it runs so fast
like of course it does, many of the core functions are not there?
global trade being such an example
So what's next? What will Schombert do now?
first month mostly bugfixes, while leaf deals with 3d models and other features
>3d models
please no
He is being filtered by them anyways
Spud sisters... this CANNOT be happening
Are they going to fix the awful font? It's too big, the wrong color, and stretches like shit. PLEASE tell me this will be changed.
change font in the options
>vassals get their overlord's colour with a slight tint of their own colour
gigabased
You can now blob across central and eastern Europe with a vassal swarm, map paint your colour, but not have to deal with unaccepted pops in your country.
looks fricking awful
Okay, the puppet thing is a good idea. The font size is still fricked, needs to shrink it a bit.
get their overlord's colour with a slight tint of their own colour
So fricking SOUL. Perfect for role play
It make the Austian "release everything as a puppet to avoid rebellions" a lot less cancer on the eyes.
I was thinking more going Communist and painting the map in red puppet states
Dividing up Austria like that is bizarre
If you want to form Germany as Austria in most mods you have to release all your non-core territories or take a 40 infamy hit. Additionally, because they're full of low-literacy non-accepted pops in non-core territories, those lands drastically reduce your rate of technological progress. Further, having them as AI vassals gives you a useful "automatic occupations" force in war, plus they'll have less rebellions. So when forming Germany as Austria, as soon as you've got some infamy to burn off, you generally want to start releasing your non-core territories into as small units as possible. I just did that in 1837 to demonstrate how it looks on the map with the overlord colouring.
Also, you get Ukraine as a puppet by releasing it in East Galicia, and can then get the rest of it as a massive vassal by doing a Liberation war against Russia for the rest of its territory.
Vassal swarms have always been better than direct annexation; the only downside was that in Paradox V2, it didn't colour the map.
I personally like the 40 infamy event, mainly because you are forming the most overpowered nation in the whole game. Excluding China but that has extra hurdles that are sometimes too anoying to jumo.
will try it out, spudgay btfo kek.
holy fricking based
you will never be a woman
well obviously. that's why he posted the image of an overt troony
i thought you mistakenly posted about victoria 3 for a second because of those map colors.
do they still become independent as a GP?
ALICE WON
Ahh fug that's nice. What about AI? Will they fix it eventually?
Of course. 1.0 doesn't mean "development stops", it just means it's at a place where the game is broadly feature complete, and they can move on to polish, improvement, added features, etc. Pre-1.0 was basically the "no scope creep allowed" phase in order to make sure the project stayed on track and was completed.
rebel ai merged
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/pull/789
> Rebel AI can now properly form pan nationalist factions, although nationalists still appear to be broken, this should drastically increase the chance of an Italy appearing alongside the occasional Gutter crown for the germans
> Nations will try to unally and desphere countries they have wargoals against; stops certain situations like USA sphering mexico causing them to not be able to manifest a destiny
> Modified some tech weights, effective outcome should be a much higher focus on national focus techs, culture and army
> Redid the sphere AI; now tries to not sphere countries they don't have a neighboring sphere or a coastal state to access. Countries will now hyperfocus on sphering countries within their culture union
> AI will now intervene in wars even if they're already in a war if it means they can protect a non-GP culture union; this could use some military strength checks, but this is mainly to ensure the USA will keep Texas safe from the Mexicans and not be pseudo locked out from manifest destiny
> GPs will now look globally to figure out where they can use their wargoals; helps Prussia decide in attacking Denmark and would allow for other free wargoals to be used like 'pay debts' and 'cut down to size'
> Undid the rebel size reduction, rebels winning a revolution will now negate militancy by a good amount; this should help nations not enter a permanent death spiral because of occupied provinces generating vast amounts of militancy and should result in a mostly calm nation after 1-2 mega rebellions, though it's not a solution to having a poor economy
>> Nations will try to unally and desphere countries they have wargoals against; stops certain situations like USA sphering mexico causing them to not be able to manifest a destiny
Holy shit, that is actually good. Now just fix the AI being moronic with sphering and it'll be semi-decent at diplomacy.
>Victoria 2 saved by a 60 years old autistic commie programmer and an obssesed troony
I don't even kwow what timeline this is anymore.
You need a troony dev like you need a fat cook kek
kek
>1.0 is out
>No AI
kek and you troony lovers think this is a win?
two more weeks
its just a release 1.0
release 1.1 will be the next big thing which will fix anything
your meds
>i-it's a buggy mess!
*bugs get fixed*
*openvic is still in the conceptualisation phase*
>troonytroonytroonytroony
Do you think Spudgun will livestream his inevitable suicide?
>getting mad about people saying the word troony
The fact is that the word troony is your literal only argument at this point. It's pathetic.
It's not the only argument, and even if it was it would still be a valid one
trannies ruin everything they touch so it's important people know if something is infested with trannies
nts but I too dislike mental illnesses such as troonyism but you should seriously consider charging them rent anon
Trannies are ultimately more often than not autistic males LARPing. Autistic males are good at coding. Ergo, all trannies should be chained up and forced to code, like Leaf is.
It's not their ability to code that destroys their project
It's the homosexual drama, the enforcement of troony political correctness in their communities and all the grooming
Funny how PA has no drama in it despite the trannies, just getting shit done, while openvic is basically non-stop drama and seething instead of progress.
What fricking drama?
PA has been drama free compared to something like TNO or even its rival OpenVic.
kek project alice was literally founded through drama
and that troony homosexual leaf has been stirring up shit with openvic since day one
hi spudcuck
You really think only spudcum hates trannies?
keep coping leaf you troony israelite
those scenarios only exist inside Spudcuck's head, so once again hi spudcuck
>posts a gif from a furry fetish game
not doing your side any favors, troony.
nobody’s mad at you, just bored. thankfully you people will tire of pretending to like strategy games by next summer and frick off back to discord
oh nonono openvic bros, this wasn't part of our spreadsheet
How many trannies are on the dev team? I know theres at least 1 because every Paradox-related project has a troony. But the name worries me.
>But the name worries me
I mean it should, project alice is troony central
Is that why its called Project Alice? Its named after a troon?
So is it an actual game yet?
> normal rebel AI added two hours after release so we have to wait another week
AAAAAAAAAAA
>1.0.1 (prob. january 6th)
>pulls repo and compiles game
Nothing personnel, techlets.
>pulls repo and compiles game
compile me a release then, big boy
If you use Linux I can, otherwise you'll have to wait since I haven't set up cross-compiling for Windows.
>"it'll be out by Christmas"
>29th of december
close enough
sorry for ever doubting you
I hate trannies so fricking much and hope this joke implodes but I can't say exactly what I think on twitch or youtube...
You’re trying way too hard to fit in, and you type like some senile boomer/gen Xer. Fricking gay as hell lol
>using gay as an insult in 2023
are you mad that he used a slur or mad that he used a weak slur instead of homosexual?
the latter
trannies are also failures at life don't fricking kid yourself, robbie
homosexual
>being an elderly loser melting down over teenage trannies online
you probably failed to produce a family too lol
And it's buggy mess that works nothing like Vic 2. Of course reditors and discordtroons will love it since they dgaf about actual game mechanics and just want to larp 19th century history.
half of the shills here are just trolls who shit on both sides
pa is a junk that fails to recreate vic2 (ui, stockpiles and economy in general, shittier ai than in vic itself, "muh how dare you abuse ai with stack cycling"), which was the main goal, and no amount of troony shilling will change that in release 1.01, "community fork that will fix everything" or anytime in general
Maybe the iphonetroony was right, ESLs really are a scourge.
are you looking to take up the mantle of iphone troony?
If I had saved that image of the dude's hand, I'd put it in that dogshit batman(spiderman?) signal meme.
Yeah, I agree, I return sporadically to these thread to update myself on their progress as I'm a passionate Vic2 player; here I find congregated a bunch of wannabe "Ganker" edgelords, presumably from discord bunkers, engrossed in wandering babbling.
I don't understand what people gain by spending time in these threads, it's an exhausting feat, as exhausting as the iphone troony posts.
What's the issue with that?
>*lists everything shit about alice*
>"what's wrong with that?"
you guys really suck at shilling
I was talking about the screenshot bro. Genuinelly just asking.
Have you never played the goddam game? You should have 83% of luxury needs fullfiled on any pop in 1836.
*should not have
dude, VGHing is literally the entire point of the genre
I want a decent videogame situated in-between me hitting play and posting a screenshot of großgermanivm on veddit.
Hey moronic spudBlack person(), you do realize that no one actually complained about this and the community between PA and OpenVic is small enough to pin you down?
Ok? Idgaf
you care enough to post here and on trooncord
And I post on reddit and twitter too, I come here when I wanto went and say slurs.
i vomit
LOL troony hater is a troonycord user, who would have though
frick you Black person
>1.0
>is not an actual 1.0 by any real metric
>1.0
does it actually work like vanilla game or its just alternative version which is still missing features
>does it actually work like vanilla game
Nope, calling it a 1.0 was pretty much a PR stunt. It'll maybe actually run like Vic 2 in a few months
nope, as the other Anon said, a PR stunt. Spudgun hinted during the early stages of development that he wanted openvic to release by the end of the year in some sort of a playable state, looks like it went the opposite.
source?
In one of his earlier videos, either from a dev stream or even a meme.
Where?
>spent the morning unfricking the Alice debt system by making loans actually move money from a country's national bank to another country instead of being a random cash infusion for the country in debt
>still an eternity to go before it's functional
>even longer until the AI will be able to use it
Alright, I have it so the national bank system works with pops being paid interest for own-nation debt to the national bank unlike in V2 which means that there's a pop incentive to lending money and those interest payments don't go to the void. That leaves
>foreign interest payments
>repayment mechanism and UI
>recreate V2 monetary policy regarding how much banks lend and to whom they lend
>adjust AI to factor in debt spending, repayment, and things like punitive expeditions to get money back
>make sure the simulation is stable/not slow
Not sure how much work it'd take to get private banking simulation and gold/silver standards based on the actual movement of precious metals working afterwards but it'd be fun to see if it could happen.
>anon is both fixing and improving upon a previously broken system from the base game
Anon... I love you, fricking gayget.
Absolute chad
now make a mod that adds different currencies which can appreciate and depreciate
is it more fun than Vic2 with crimeamod?
And does it support modern resolutions + dual screen setups? V2 doesn't work for me because of this.
It has ui scaling for 4k resolution. IDK about dual screens
Nice, let's see OpenVics card
my converted savegames from eu4 aren't working, but they were on a old version, nonetheless, it's great to see PA reached release
Leaf has uploaded early 1.0.1 and it's a complete VGH galore. Hope they only add in nationalists and that's it
they definitely need to change the AI's behavior such that they go after cores they border and have reasonable geopolitical positions for. Within 1 decade of a observer game (albeit it only took a couple minutes), afghanistan had blobbed itself into an enclave inside Persia, destroying a millenia of beautiful borders when they couldn't even possibly control that area.
what troon's idea was it to name this after a literally-who "writer" (literally her only significance is being the spawn of teddy roosevelt) who cheated on her husband and spawned a bastard child?
It wasn't actually named after Alice Roosevelt. It was named after a troony from the dev team, and then they just looked for any historical figure that happened to share the same name to hide it.
big if true, huge even
wouldnt surprise me. "project alice" always sounded like something a troony would call their transition
mark my words
schombert is gonna come out as a troony sometime next year
its honestly pathetic that there are actually people there who are mad about project alice
like Black person are you for fricking real? enjoy the video games and be glad we got this instead of being pissy that the 'wrong' project succeeded
I'm not upset, I just don't like trannies, and also don't see why this project is so hyped up in the first place. I don't see the point in any of these clones - what meaningful improvements are they actually making? Recreating vic2 is cool but why should anyone actually play these things over the actual original game?
Ability to play gfm at decent speed? Stable multiplayer?
GFM sucks though.
I also don't play multiplayer. I don't like it for these games. I prefer to play at my leisure, not on scheduled game nights with discord trannies.
Then those remakes have no use to you, which is absolutely fine.
and that makes you rage and shit up threads? just go on with your day lmao
the only reason it runs at a decent speed is because of multi threading, half of mechanics being missing and dumb ai
>spreading lies about an open source project on 4chinks for free
average spudBlack person
the only thing that matters to me about openvic2 vs pa is which one has more trannies on their dev team
Alice is one troony personally kept in check by a boomer.
OpenVic is much larger so there's bound to be more than one troony on their team.
so i'm guessing the boomer let the troony pick the name?
have you tried reading documentation
https://schombert.github.io/Project-Alice/
>Alice is one troony personally kept in check by a boomer.
not true, their discord is overrun with trannies
None of those "people" do anything though
frick off troony shill
>troony troony muh trannies look a troony trannies troony
shut up Black folk
Every good thread has at least one obsessive anon.
calm down troony, this is the last place on the web where we can be mean to them so ofc its concentrated on here
Perhaps one of the gayest posts I've seen this year
how so. isn't he right
maybe he is but i m interested in this whole openvic thing and i cant understand anything cuz this fricking moron is spamming troony troonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroonytroony
It's really amusing just how much spudgun and friends are so obviously nu-/gsg/ and yet pretend so hard to be the old guard. So unbelievably soft.
Almost makes you miss the Steamgruppe period
Since this thread reignited my desire to create my own v2-inspired game will occasionally share my progress here.
I decided that my simplification of demographic pyramid does more harm than good. Having yearly age cohorts allows me to just keep them in a circular buffer, updating only the offset instead of iterating through every cohort to simulate ageing.
how many trannies are working on this project?
zero
I will now follow its development
chad
Guy who made the religion mapmode here, I finally got around to putting together a half assed GUI implementation for it. Unzip this into your Victoria 2 directory https://files.catbox.moe/zuvgoe.zip (make backups of the .gui and .gfx files first) then when you run the game you'll get a button for the mapmode. It overlaps with the map a bit and if you don't like that, you can mess around with the positioning in the .gui file and you can also set a hotkey for the mapmode in the same file, just look at the other mapmodes for examples on how to do this.
Does this work in Victoria 2 or only in Project Tralice?
The button will be there in Victoria 2 but clicking it won't do anything, the religion mapmode only works in PA.
Then why do you say Victoria 2 directory?
Since PA reads the files from the V2 directory.
Call me when they add WASD map pan.
If you ever played Vic2 before you would know that WASD is used for the map modes
early 1.0.1 with fixed rebels, since no one posted it
https://mega.nz/file/BAdXCQSA#GlUUE7-F16f2kdAhS_bkCg6FMsag2vqroKjcOeIYGQY
someone actually is willing to make macro-builder
Can’t believe people are seething about this free Vic2 remake. When in your wildest dreams was something like this gonna actually happen? And so quickly too. Obviously Yeshua and his father God have granted us some sort of final gift for the end times, intended as a mercy and a distraction for the coming nuclear war. Get your priorities straight.
i'm seething because this fat sack of shit released a "1.0" with awful AI.
what the frick is even the point? it's not the "first official release" or whatever he called it.
>i’m seething
fixed the troon icon
https://ufile.io/rbv6plua
>replacing historical figures with tranime
???
~~*~~*Historical*~~*~~) figure is not onbly a r**sevelt, a crime punishable by being grated alive, but a 3d prostitute
while the "tranime" alice is a apropiate puppetmaster that works the game from behind the scenes with cute dolls and is a girl on top of not being a repulsive fricking r**sevelt
>
your brain on tranime
iphone troony
>alice roosevelt
>historical figure
KEK
LMFAO EVEN
She's a fricking nobody.
you type like a fricking homosexual dude be quiet
Thank you, tranime sister.
oh wow cwe actually loads
You need to remove some file or something to unfrick the map
It's not fricked up if you're zoomed in close. It's not actually playable though, it seems that every event that has more than 1 choice, even if it's hidden, triggers all. I've had 6 different party leaders come up at the same time, and the civil war event happened 4 times in a row.
>every event that has more than 1 choice, even if it's hidden, triggers all
Yeah, I had this problem when I tried loading up HPM way before without any comp. patches. You can at best gawk at the map changes, and that's about it.
Destroy r**sevelts
Destroy gay icons for video games
Playing HFM and all of Europe has been in a constant state of rebel uprisings. My military has been doing nothing but fighting infinite Jacobins and Polish Patriots for the past 20 years. It started like 5 years after game's start. I can't tell if it's the mod being shit, or PA's rebels being moronic.
My fricking Christ.
bro those are 3k stacks, literally 1 regiment
>not showing the year
I’m gonna bet it’s 1848. Makes all that small rebels somewhat justifiable, though perhaps still a problem.
Hungary exists and is at war with Austria, so it's probable late 1846 or early 1847.
1866
awesome 1.0 release alice troons. bet reddit is eating up this schlongbert mess.
of course, what did you expect? Shitgun is hated by redditors because he clearly at least lurks here + they still can't get over him saying Black person like half a decade ago. Not to mention that PA has their trannies on prominent display while OV shoved them only into art, while you have individuals like spartan "doing" the actual "work".
You'd think the fact that shitgun and his little band of homosexuals get shat on here all the time would be enough to make plebbit think he's "their guy"
Their already mentioned grievances overshadow the whole enemy of my enemy sort of thing. And many of them are not aware whether he gets shit on here or otherwise. They know Ganker as the scary /misc/man, that's about it.
/vst/ is a dead ass board on an already niche website, and these threads are a niche within that, mainly populated by the same few /gsg/ ESLs samegayging nonstop and "ironically" posting about trannies for no reason for literal years on end. all it takes for someone to "get shit on" is for one schizo to go off his meds for a while and pick up a new obsession. And that's exactly what happened with openvic, someone became aware of spudgun when these threads started getting made and they worked his name into their material. I guess grandi got old after all these years.
>ESLs
Your obsession is obvious.
says the person engaging in never ending posting about american culture wars despite being from south america or the balkans
>for no reason
>discord raids spamming bbc posts and blacked pictures
>obsessive troony picture spam on every board
>cant criticize a shitty game, movie or whatever thread is about because some unhinged balding homosexual in a skirt will call you a chud or incel and start spamming his basedak folder
they worked hard for hate they get now.
raids spamming bbc posts and blacked pictures
these dont happen here. you're a mentally ill weirdo imagining things that are persecuting you here. you probably think you're probably being personally targeted by the WHO and 5g towers or something. unwarranted self importance at its finest
you are even using their discord newspeak, ESL is their made up world you dumb homosexual
>don't call me an ESL!! you're triggering me!!
grow a pair you fricking b***h
Another episode of Brownoids vs English words?
>these dont happen here
daily discord raids with victoria 3 schizos spamming threads were a thing for months you disingenuous homosexual, besides nobody just visits dead board like /vst/ people go to other boards like Ganker where that obnoxious spam is prevalent so yes people getting prejudiced and hating troons is your own fault.
>there were bbc raids every day
wrong. you have a learning difficulty and a persecution fetish
stfu esl
>unhinged iphone troon denies reality and projects his own mental illness on others
many such cases
Who the hell imagines daily BBC raids? Are you gay or something?
I dunno, how much homosexual material do you have saved on your computer (ostensibly to own the vatnigs)?
Weird fricking reply from a mentally ill person plagued by imaginary black dicks and made up trannies
Weird fricking reply from a mentally ill person who thinks cutting his dick and wearing a dress makes him a real woman.
Nerve struck
why are the people most angry about le trannies all obvious Black folk from brazil or some other turdie shithole
considering that one of the homosexuals spamming blacked was doxxed and revealed to be a mentally ill brown turdworlder i guess you are projecting again. Lying and denying reality is just a thing you mentally ill freaks love to do.
nobody knows what the frick you’re talking about lol maybe ifunny.br does
the favela moronation is palpable with this post
>YOU'RE BRAZILIAN
>NO YOU'RE RUSSIAN
What next?
>NO YOU'RE SOUTH AFRICAN
>NO YOU'RE INDIAN
>NO YOU'RE CHINESE
you will never be white
>americans arbitrarily deciding what's white or not
Are you genuinely arguing
>trannies and bbcposters don't real!!
nobody is posting bbc here, you took a look at your own search history and get confused. why are you so annoyed anyway? you’re probably a thirdie Black person yourself
Shut the frick up you fricking homosexual already Jesus
Well, the sentiment on /vst/ has for a long time been that we just wanted open source vicky 2 and we were hoping both projects would succeed, but after enough generally unpleasant behaviour and unwarranted arrogance & hostility from openvic devs compared to schombert's humble dedication everyone's become kind of soured on openvic.
And with alice being out it kind of begs the question now: what's the point of openvic? I know the Black folk on the dev team will b***h about PA making changes but the whole point of an open source vicky 2 is to make changes, otherwise just play vicky 2. And I know the openvic players will then say waaaah we just want vicky 2 as-is but with less multiplayer bugs, and the answer to that is nobody gives a frick about multiplayer except streamers, and Bokoen's already expressed interest in Project Alice rather than openvic, so Project Alice is at this point the only project that has a reason to exist.
>"but after enough generally unpleasant behaviour and unwarranted arrogance & hostility from openvic devs compared to schombert's humble dedication"
>no mention of the homosexual leaf dev
frick you alice israelite
>nobody gives a frick about multiplayer except streamers
I believe many vicky2 connoisseurs would like to play multiplayer, but as
anon said
> I prefer to play at my leisure, not on scheduled game nights
the main reason to avoid multiplayer is inconvenience.
Less buggy mp + ability to join a publicly hosted game mid-session will make it more popular.
I think Paradox games are a lot of fun in multiplayer but at the same time a lot of the balancing decisions that come from multiplayer make me want to pull my hair out. A Paradox game with multiplayer that doesn't require a rehost every fricking hour due to desyncs would also be nice.
>And with alice being out it kind of begs the question now: what's the point of openvic?
Maybe because PA is nothing like vic 2?
It's more like a Vicky game than V3.
>ESLs
that you iphone troony?
spudcuck was already disliked since a few years before openvic
>him saying Black person like half a decade ago.
Proofs?
it's a trutherald that there is a screenshot somewhere of him saying Black person or something
it's all just Alice trannies trying to undermine his efforts
>anarcho-liberal spam from 1.0 Vic 2 is back
we're going home...
actually schombert is being a super nice guy on reddit, reaching out to an openvic dev and suggesting he fork alice instead of starting openvic from scratch.
such a good dude. not sure why spudgun hates alice??
game engines?
>he downvoted it
Of course you did, libtarded troon.
>ESL is their made up world you dumb homosexual
Beyond buttmad
i accept your concession
the sheer amount of seething in this thread is mindblowing.
this thread is neo-/v/
can't be, we're actually discussing something vidya related
If you can't figure it out: spudBlack person is shitting up this thread with trannie spam and samegayging
Actually official 1.0.1 is tomorrow. And I guess the January blog too?
>Spud:There will be playable and enjoyable things before 2 years though
So they are not even expecting to finish it in 2024?
They're organizing it like a REAL game design project you know, really professional with graphs and spreadsheets and stuff. it's gonna take time to build everything from the bottom up, especially when all those meetings about what to officially add and cut from the project come up. Very professional and organized, OpenVic is.
Blog is already on GitHub
> Progress as of January 2024
On to bigger and better things
> 1.0 Has Arrived
Version 1.0.0 of Project Alice is now available.
> A Victoria 2 Clone?
Version 1.0.0 is what I would consider a pretty close copy of Victoria 2, but it is far from a perfect copy. We will of course continue to fix bugs, and leaf has a number of features she is working on (possibly even including some 3d models) that will appear in future 1.0.x releases.
I know that, for some of you, it won't be enough, and that what you really want is a perfect replica of Victoria 2, even down to some of the bugs. You are also probably aware that this is not my goal with the project. The 1.0.x series of releases is probably as close as Project Alice will get to copying Victoria 2.
But just because that isn't my goal doesn't mean that you have to give up on perfectly copying Victoria 2, if that is what you want. I encourage people who are Victoria 2 "purists" to organize themselves on our server (you can even have your own channel there, if you want) and start working on a version of the project that will be based on the 1.0.x series of releases but which will build on those towards the perfect copy of Victoria 2 that you dream of.
Starting from the 1.0.x releases will put this sister project much, much closer to its overall goals than starting over from scratch would. The lessons I learned from Open V2, one of my previous projects, made working on Project Alice much easier, and starting from something that is sort-of Victoria 2 is going to save countless hours towards producing a Victoria 2 clone. Seeing yet another project start over from scratch when it is simply unnecessary would pain me. Plus, while I don't plan on directly contributing to a purist recreation of Victoria 2, I would still be happy to answer questions and provide advice for the team that does pick it up; you wouldn't have to navigate through a foreign code base without any help.
> The Immediate Future
As already mentioned, leaf has a number of projects she is working on that will continue to be added. Ma44 has been working on improving the AI, so we will probably see some improvements there as well. And we may also turn towards implementing some of the smaller and more interesting items in the suggestions forum. There are a number of small features there (for example, enabling scrolling via moving towards the edge of the window) that would be excellent small projects for new contributors. However, for the next couple of months I personally plan to limit my immediate contributions to fixing bugs of a more technical nature that may require my involvement for a speedy fix.
Partly this is because I am waiting to see where the community lands on Project Alice before starting on any big changes to the game. As I mentioned in last month's update, if we start seeing mods for Project Alice specifically, then I will probably focus the project on serving the needs of those modders and on making changes to the game that enjoy wide community support. Of course, if we don't get many modders, then there is no one to really upset with breaking changes to the game, and I will pursue more radical experiments instead.
(cont)
If you are working on a mod, even if it is just a small one, we are happy to host your work in our discord. We also welcome more compatibility patches for existing Victoria 2 mods. There are far more mods than we have compatibility patches for. And some mods, like GFM, are so complex that we could really use some more people with GFM experience to help make the compatibility patch work (the GFM compatibility patch is quite fragile and buggy, but we don't have enough experience with GFM to understand what is supposed to be happening to begin to diagnose what is going on with it). Making a compatibility patch is generally pretty straightforward. First, you fix the errors reported by the launcher when you try to make a scenario with the mod. Then, when those are all fixed, you play the mod and see if anything "weird" compared to normal mod behavior is happening. If you can identify events or decisions or other factors that aren't behaving as they do in Victoria 2, you can report those to us leading to either bug fixes in Project Alice or perhaps some new workarounds that we will need to introduce.
But, regardless of what the distant future for the project looks like, there is some work that needs to be done first: a ui overhaul.
UI changes
Accommodating the existing Victoria 2 gui files is a substantial barrier to further development. When I was implementing a simple version of international debt, the main difficulty was not writing the internal logic to make it work; the main difficulty was in fact figuring out how to stick it into the existing ui, and in the end I provided only a very minimal interface to it. This is far from ideal, because the user interface is the game, and if writing the ui for new game systems isn't painless, that makes everyone much more reluctant to work on them. Not only is the format of the gui and gfx files itself quite inconvenient to work with, it also locks us into supporting the win1250 code page for text. In the long term, we need to make the transition to unicode text, both for the sake of our international users and my sanity. Doing that, however, means throwing out compatibility with the old Victoria 2 bitmap fonts and localization files, and it means rewriting parts of the ui to render unicode text.
(cont)
So I have decided to throw out the ui system (and localization system, as a byproduct of this) and start over. For me, this means a bunch of technical work, at the end of which I will come away with some tools to make my life easier. For you this will mean a few things. First, you should expect the overall look and feel of the game to change. I am not going to copy the old gui files into the new system I create. Instead, I plan on remaking much of the ui as I go to start the process of moving away from using the Victoria 2 game files and towards a game that can stand on its own (although this will probably be limited to the simpler elements, such as buttons and backgrounds to start with; I don't have enough artistic talent to really remake the icons properly). Secondly, you will lose the option to switch to the classic fonts, as there is no way to display unicode text with them. Thirdly, I would expect the big country names on the map to disappear for a while, and if they do come back, they probably wont be "curvy" (many scripts do not work very well, or at all, if you start bending the baseline). Finally, any ui changes that mods make will be lost. I expect most mods for Victoria 2 to keep working at this point (we will still display all the same internal data), but any individual flair they added would have to be recreated in the new ui system.
I guess I should also warn you that some of my ui ideas will probably strike you as odd, at least initially. There won't be any scrollbars, for example. The ui will partly build on some ideas from a previous project of mine, called PrintUI, which you can find a demo video of here. That project was mainly an experiment in making a ui that could be used with equal ease with the mouse, keyboard, controller, or some combination of the three. It will also include a number of accessibility features which most of you will have no need for, I imagine.
Im gonna coom, this is everything I have ever wanted, now we only need to remake hoi 3 in that engine with vicy features
>First, you should expect the overall look and feel of the game to change. I am not going to copy the old gui files into the new system I create
what a fricking homosexual. at least make it look the fricking same.
Do it yourself lol.
or how about he frick off forever
Just ignore him if you don't like his game lol.
"ignore the guy fricking up the recreation of a good game"
uh why would i do that? frick you
Fork it then lol. It's his project.
why should i have to learn to do something so gay when it should be done right the first time? am i not allowed to complain about the chef if they frick up my meal you bootlicker?
Are you paying this guy? You pay chefs for food. Stop being a loser lol.
if a chef offered me free food and it tasted like literal dog shit and i complained would that make me a loser? no no it wouldn't homosexual
>food analogy
Ah, Americans.
>game runs fast because it's missing half the mechanics
woah
Go ahead and list them.
>non-moronic ai
>ai debt
>proper international trade with supply and demand
etc. etc.
>non moronic ai
But PA's decision trees are more complex? For example AI can pull off successful naval invasions consistently.
>ai debt
How exactly is this going to affect speed, you tech illiterate niglet?
>proper international trade with supply and demand
Your medication, schizo.
Not interested in your biased excuses.
Go back to /gsg/, thirdie(brown(Black person(subhuman*~~
>leaf
>she
kek. he's a man in a dress, not a woman.
can't believe it took that long for someone to point it out
this thread is infested with trannies
and bbcposters don't real!!
Jesus, someone range ban non-white people from vst
>considering that one of the homosexuals spamming blacked was doxxed and revealed to be a mentally ill brown turdworlder
I love how low IQ mentally ill people just automatically assume you know exactly what they’re talking about
ok troony
>still projecting
i love how insincere and deranged you pedophile morons are, completely ignored part about Vicy3 thread spam which you and your schizo friends did on this board for months.
Absolute mental breakdown
the only spam is coming from you and 1 or 2 other mouthbreathers talking about trannies in every thread
i've made 3 posts total how many alice threads with bait tiles and shitty posts to bait response from openvic have you produced you mentally ill homosexual.
What’s with all these mentally ill troony obsessives having appalling third worlder syntax?
Can you go back to VK? I’m white and I don’t want you here
Meds
What even is the point of these moronic-ass posts whining about non-existent ESLs?
Do you genuinely think people are going to side with you when they see you whining like a woman, impotently, and claiming victory over the most moronic shit?
i like how it took this post 5 seconds to go back to whining about non existent trannies cyberbullying on /vst/. esloids are insane lol
It's the only form of comunication he knows, he's probably hard autistic.
It's just one sperg who gets triggered by certain trigger words to sperg out.
For the longest time I thought he was stalking paradox threads exclusively but he is either operating some crawler or severely autistic since he will respond to any thread triggering him.
>85 times troony in 250 posts
more then a quarter of this thread is seething about mental illness, instead of celebrating that we get to have a fricking resurgence of victoria 2
please go outside
cool impact font image macro presumably with the ifunny.br watermark removed mein bruder
what's the point of having a victoria 2 resurgence if trannies are just gonna ruin it?
it seems someone has stirred iphone troony from his long slumper
god help us all
Are the trannies with us now?
It's fricking shit lol. The AI is like the Victoria 3 leak. This is not a 1.0 release, it may be 'feature complete' but the AI is a mess. Also why is zooming in so choppy? Whilst the game's ticks run fast, zooming in is not seamless.
>
But people say that ai is aggressive and complain about it fricking them in the ass when they play on small nations?
Happy new year! 1.0.1 is out officially
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/releases/download/v1.0.1/1.0.1.zip
I pray for local samegayging schizo blows his brains out in 2024.
Leaf will blow his brains out long before anyone in this thread
of course the troony is working on alice on new years
what a sad pathetic homosexual
and here you are mumbling to yourself about trannies like a mentally ill homeless person on new years eve
and here you are getting mad about it
>spends your entire 31st of december talking about trannies in a vidya game thread
yea im the one whos mad i think
Have you considered suicide? You don’t seem very happy and you’re just a constant low grade annoyance to other people
>Have you considered suicide?
no i'm not a troony
This is how you spend your new years?
latest spudgun cope
>PA have had the benefit of most of their work being done while we've wasted time with bureaucratic larp
he isn't wrong
Turns out spreadsheets and powerpoints of a plan don't really attract attention as an actual prototype/model of and idea.
what are the main difference between openvic and project alice as I havent kept up with anything at all?
PA - Victoria 2 retro clone, Victoria 2 emulation
OV2 - Supposedly accurate recreation of Victoria 2, with extended mod support and big focus on mp.
PA is Playable
OV2 is a vaporware
Schombert actually called out Spartan and his team for being incompetent morons. Schombert replying to Spartan:
>So far OpenVic only has a small part of the work for loading the files done. Surely we don't disagree in some fundamental way about parsing text. (I may not have gone about it in the same way you would have, but it is such a simple thing that the result is probably satisfactory to you.) Even if you took PA and threw out everything but the file loading and ui (in other words, all the things that you think that you have a philosophical disagreement with), you would still come out ahead.
And holy shit this homosexual is obsessed with floating points determinism lmao, despite schombert making it work in mp. Obviously he refuses to rely on PA, because 'PA will annex us'.
>holy shit this homosexual is obsessed with floating points determinism lmao
As far as I recall, there was some homosexual on this board whining about floating points. Are you telling me that Openvic was actually shilling /vst/ lmao
>Are you telling me that Openvic was actually shilling /vst/ lmao
It was confirmed he was posting in this thread ages agok
wait, "muh floating points" schizo was actually spartan? lmao
wait so you're telling me a famous developer for my favorite upcoming remake was reading my posts??? (i didn't argue about floating point but i posted in those threads)
i feel so lucky
I do wonder how many famous people lurk and post here. I know Musk and Kanye do, and I bet money Zuckerberg does.
There's no way somebody who holds Facebook users in such contempt as Zuckerberg DOESN'T browse Ganker.
eh, everything they said to each other are pointless words. The fork thing is a red herring. The objectives of PA and OV are actually the same, re-implementing Vic2, so if they forked PA they'd just be making themselves redundant and killing their own project. not sure if Schombert realizes that and is just trolling them but whatever.
The analogy I'd use is that two people want to draw a picture of the same subject. One person drew their picture quicker and better and said "hey bro why don't you copy mine, it'll be faster to start from where I am". But that was never the point, the point is to draw your own picture. There's no point if they're the same but one is slightly shittier than the other. At least if they persist independently there's a chance they someday have a good and distinct product.
>And holy shit this homosexual is obsessed with floating points determinism lmao
This is a good example of why having two projects is valuable. Sure, if one of them claims FPs cause OOS and the other doesn't, one of them must be wrong. And my very amateur knowledge makes me guess spartan is probably overreacting. But if we have two projects that try the opposite things, we can see what works better. And if spartan is wrong it'll be a monumental L proven in front of everyone for all time instead of just a claim.
another reason forking Alice would be moronic is, well if the OV team likes something from Alice, they can literally just cherrypick the code and use it however they want. And so can Schombert too. The projects are both under the GPL. Which makes the whole autism duel even more of a nothingburger.
>Which makes the whole autism duel even more of a nothingburger.
People with autistic hobbies tend to pick fights over extremely unimportant things, look at drama in speedrunning, game modding, scanlation, streaming communities, etc.
>PA and OV are actually the same
OV2 devs specifically advertised themselves as their own thing.
>The analogy
This analogy doesn't work on open source software development. You only make a full of yourself trying to reinvent the wheel. People who made TES3mp used OpenMW as their base, instead of trying to hack morrowind because they are not moronic.
>two projects is valuable
If OpenVic fails to produce anything playable within the next six months, then there are no "two projects", but only one. You can leave your endless toozers to hoi4 modders.
>>PA and OV are actually the same
I didn't say that, that's not what I meant. The goal is the same, re-implementing vicky 2. from OV's website:
>OpenVic aims to faithfully recreate Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness with a focus on enhancing performance, stability, and modability.
from alice's repo:
>The goal of Project Alice (named after Alice Roosevelt Longworth) is essentially to create a new version of open v2 – my earlier project to create a Victoria 2 clone – and then to finish a working, feature complete, version of the game.
Yeah they both have/will have meme options to enable unfaithful features, but the core goal is to reimplement vic2 to eliminate bugs and make the old binary obsolete. The frills like the globe or shitty new 3d models aren't the point nor does anyone care about those. My point was that if they're both attempting to reach the same goal, and they're both using the same methods (because OV became an alice fork), then OV is just redundant and doesn't need to exist. Whereas if OV is doing things a different way, there's at least some value in the project existing separately.
>TES3mp used OpenMW as their base, instead of trying to hack morrowind because they are not moronic.
Nah, that's not the same thing. A more apt analogy for TES mods would be something like Alternate Start vs. Realm of Lorkhan and other similar mods. The goal of the mod is the same and AS was done first, but RoL didn't just fork AS because 1. the point was to make their own mod and 2. the creator of the original thing has autism.
>If OpenVic fails to produce anything playable within the next six months, then there are no "two projects", but only one
I don't personally care about imaginary deadlines tbqh. Six months isn't even anything, vicky 3 is already over a year old and both of these projects have put out more of value than that, lmao. let's not forget how bad things really could be, we could have neither of em and be stuck with that shit.
frick man
openvic and alice have been in development much longer than victoria 2 by now.
> a reasonable competent programmer
Well V2 had an engine premade, alice and openvic have to remake their own from scratch. V2 wasn't really made "from scratch", there was a base from other games to work on. You can see it when you go to message settings and there's a setting for "air wings" carried over from HoI3.
Now that I think about it it's kind of crazy that V2 came out after HoI3 since I always think of HoI3 as being way more complex. I always thought it came after HoI2
openvic uses Godot.
not surprising, victoria 2 was a job and both PA and OV2 are passion projects
I'm actually surprised by Johan's response, was expecting way more butthurt or anger over the insults to V3. Guess spending his days chilling on a Spanish beach has mellowed him out.
I don't believe Johan is a fan of V3
Johan hates V3. He keeps making passive-aggressive comments about his experience with V2 on the forums.
as in he makes positive comments about v2 that is passive aggressively insulting to v3?
Basically what he did in the pic. He keeps responding to complaints about V3 with "when making V2 we solved this problem in half the time in a cave with a bunch of scraps".
Why the extreme figthing between PA and OpenVic adherents
The trve purpose of both proyects is to make the community happy, out of free and uninterested labour that stems from the depths of their hearts
discord drama homosexualry and /vst/ shitposting. If any team member took the hostility to heart they're an actual dumb Black person
Because any vicky 2 thread is the homestead of /gsg/ and honestly it's surprising it's been this civil so far.
.
/gsg/ did nothing wrong
learn how to reply you dumb Black person
from 17.9 sec down to 3.9 sec
impressive work from leaf
leaf will never be a woman
And he still contributes more to remaking victoria 2 than you
It doesnt need to be remade.
Yes, it does.
euroids hate food analogies because they're friggin epic and defeat all kinds of bad arguments
no need, it comes innately to me
How far away is PA from V2 in feature parity? What's missing at this point?
PA is about to make the GUI ugly so it's ogre at this point. an under the good GUI redo was important but they're going to use it as an excuse to stick ugly shit in the game. just wait to see if openvic will do things right.
Rebels are a bit(very) fricked, debt isn't properly implemented and there's no 3d models yet. Idk what else is missing, if anything.
Shoo, spudgun.
Oh right, sort of related to gameplay, saves are a bit weird, and you can't name them.
I noticed that the tool tip when hovering over units was missing, pretty annoying as you can't know which culture the battalion is when reorganizing your army composition.
The nationalist spawning logic is fricked (as in "they don't spawn ever"), meaning that large empires just don't collapse unless forced by treaties (so it's just like Victoria 3). Also no international debt and your spending is just reduced to accommodate for a lack of money.
basically everything non-superficial is fricked
for example pops have their militancy calculations all wrong which makes every country stuck on a permanent rebellion
pop wealth, factory income, monthly checks, international trade, everything is fricked or does not exist
project tranice is fundamentally the same thing the bashed openvic2 about: a glorified map
outside of the strategic map, the military units and the UI, nothing else works
Got bored of samegayging, Black person?
go back
have a nice day, gsgnig.
bump
bump
>every country stuck on a permanent rebellion
The game should've been called Project Leon.
under the hood* GUI
but i guess both are true
can i savescum in PA hardcore like i do in vanilla
woman penis
in my mouth
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/releases/tag/v1.0.2
>Fixes an issue with the AI not ending wars, and a small performance enhancement
As far as I can tell, this thread consists half of people criticising and discussing PA’s release; while the other half b***hes and moans and seethes because it beat their pet (eceleb-backed) project to release. Honestly, and you can throw whatever discord brain-rot insult that’s popular on your gay troony-infested server at me, you are PATHETIC.
Do those eu4 to vic2 mods work on Project Alice now? I tries it when it was still in the alphas/betas and it wasn’t working for me.
no
I tried it, I should’ve listened to you, it works but its broken. Workforce, culture, ideology, population, etc. don’t appear.
advance the flag of /gsg/, hurrah
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>thirdie still going at it
who is alice
all me
what was this thread about again?
M8, if you keep talking to yourself you will troon out unironically.
woman penis
This is how trannies type btw
Frick troony type.
good morning sirs
woman can't have penis you silly
there are some cases in which it is biologically possible though
t. doctor schmeckleberg
sorry
wont happen again
meant for
fake news homosexual
I was 1638114 and none of the others
Schombert is Alex Grandi (developer of HPM)
Not sure how nobody picked up on this yet
bro i was there during 2013-18 era /gsg/, i could recognize a grandipost from a mile away
schomberg is not hpm
grandi is gfm now
Spics found project alice and now the entire chat is just Californian refugee camp.
He is not the only one
Both those guys are Argentinians funnily enough
>getting hyped over some troony made mod slob
Absolute state of paradox shitters, good riddance
it’s “slop”, you stupid fricking ESL street shitter
>"it’s slop, you stupid fricking ESL street shitter"
is this thread what gsg is actually like
just a bunch of shizo morons samegayging and yelling into the void about shit that doesn't matter?
They even have it down to the replying thing, this is exactly what /gsg/ is like
Yes, it is.
/gsg/ only became like this relatively recently in the past few years.
nice trips, what was it like before?
people posted their runs, made AAR's, talked about the actual games, clowned on hoi4 during the dev diaries and eventual release, made actual fun and stupid content, etc. Some time around Imperator I estimate is when /gsg/ turned into the state it is now, and /vst/ being created didn't help either. (it just negated the whole point of /gsg/ existence) Now /gsg/ is populated by the same autistic group of people who don't talk about games, you got 1 or 2 people in there actually posting about their current run which is usually exclusive to ck2, they never use the reply function, you have avatargays like the guy who just posts pictures of otters, or the guy that posts "Black folk" 5-10 times in each thread. The only people left in there use it like some personal group chat, most of the people who used it back years ago either stopped going there, or went here, as there is still some manner of content and discussions.
>ruins the thread with incessent offtopic shitposting to the point where we had to add a warning to the op
>we had fun
Maybe you did. But not the people that actually posted their campaigns.
The guy making the OP's was legitimately mentally ill. Mods actually had to rangeban him to stop him from making threads.
/gsg/ should just be given the /kspg/ treatment at this point
Ganker is in its post-history. The mods don't even have the balls to add new filter words yet alone autosage generals.
Although /gsg/gers would probably just get around that by remaking their general every 2 hours.
Thankfully he's now contained in /vst/.
>in the past few years
If by that you mean the last 5 years, then yes.
/gsg/ went to shit when HOI4 released
>our superior version
The absolute state of this homosexual.
Do you think Spartan is going to slit his wrists and write FLOATING POINTS on the walls with his own blood before he dies?
Is Spartan the ultimate ideas guy?
no they're currently developing openvic you homosexual
proof?
So he's an ideaguy.
why is there a sudden flood of shitposting here? it started like a few days ago.
Spudsissy can't take heat, so he tried to torpedo the thread. By himself.
The emergence of two concurrent open vicky2 projects presented new oppurtunities for stirring the pot and some people have been eagerly throwing fuel onto the fire ever since.
Well, well, toy soldiers spotted on the map.
upside down crosses?
are they trying to insult christ and christianity?
are australians the ones that stand up in this reality?
>mommy help Ive seen the british and belgians under my bed
It'd be funny if leaf got hatecrimed and raped to death by a black.
demented third worlder hands typed this
The hands of a man wearing nail polish typed this
>Fantasizing about people on the internet you don't like getting raped
Back to old tricks again, are we ESL?
Wouldn't it be (You)r old tricks?
What's up with people who complain about ESLs and making Russian-tier mistakes isn't that crazy
still insisting that was a rape fantasy iphone troony?
>a black
lol its self inserting itself into its turd worlder rape fic again
I'm at awe with how bad the map looks. I didn't really follow the development at all but you'd think the developers would at least make an attempt at mimicking how the original game looked.
alice troons and their fat old head developer don't give a frick about anything like that. gonna have to wait for openvic to see something ACTUALLY playable in a couple years. that's right - ACTUALLY - not the mess alice has released.
hello mr. spudgun
Space rock hawaii? kino
frick your psyop, Earth is flat
does it atleast use a proper map instead of that weird modified projection that paradox uses?
You can choose between globalism or flat earth, I don't think the projection is correct either way though.
there is no such thing as a correct projection
yeah because the american continent has always been fricked. it needs to be way further south
buenos aires is supposed to be at the same height as cape town more or less
What's wrong with their projection?
Other than slightly misplaced continents it looks perfectly normal to me.
europa is bigger than in reality
It doesn't match the projection google uses, but doesn't look bigger relatively to Africa, quite the opposite if you compare the north-to-south dimensions.
It's still a little bigger north to south just look at Finlan, but they had to keep it proportional with continents it's directly attached to.
Now compare it with north and south Americas.
It's bothers my autism that the Americas have been shifted northwards. Like, Stockholm is on the same latitiue as the middle of the Hudson Bay. Also, it results in South America and Africa almost touching which gay af.
>South America and Africa almost touching which gay af
Perfectly describes irl Brazil.
Leaf is shitting out features at the speed of light.
Devs are too scared to show Hyperborea so they censored it.
New devlog is out
>UI is going to be changed
its over
yes, versions after 1.0.x will start to diverge, so 1.0.x will focus on bugfixes and qol stuff
1.0.3 will include 30-40 different prs for example
openvic won.. they didn't do anything and they won..
>UI is going to be changed
In which ways?
where are all the moders and devs forking PA to make it precisely for them?
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/pull/879
attempt #993678 at making alice work on older PCs
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good post
objectively true
Frick you /gsg/ frick you
Did that post hurt your feelings, leaf?
Finally an effortpost on /vst/
this, creativity actually thrives the more you restrict it, the more brutal and restrictive a regime becomes the more creative its citizens become to go around the restrictions
oh, retreat to boats was added
> I dont know why but, when i play for example, prussia and a little bit later, randomly France Declares war on me Cuz of rhineland, i played as ottoman Empire and then austria and egypt declared war on me in 1836-1837 and the Armies are just ridiculous. but the other parts of the mod Still Amazing, good job so Far. but fix that please and add some event pause option, like Hoi4 and vanilla Vic2 and HOW THE FRENCH ARMY OF 90K GUYS ARE DEFEATING AN 123K-130K PRUSSIAN GUYS
btw ai aggression was reduced in recent releases
I've never had Ai declare war on me. Maybe like once as an unciv right after the release, but I'm not aware of it.
if ai detects you as a viable target it will attack you
>open thread thinking project alice 1.0 means it has all the features from vic 2
>turns out it doesn't
>leaves thread
eu6 will release before openvic or project alice has functional ai
the boomer and the troony running this project have even less of an idea of what "1.0" means than modern AAA studios, and that's saying something
> t. drooling moron
>t. has no idea what version numbers mean
they mean whatever the frick devs want
there is no standard for what alpha/beta is supposed to be and mostly a marketing term now
https://semver.org/
no one gives a shit about this, moron
There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle
no one gives a shit about this, moron x2
different devs follow their own definitions
wait until you release Linux changes major release versions for no apparent reason, because they don't believe in it.
Linus changes the version whenever he feels like the minor version gets too big, Linux itself isn't a very good case for semver because its motto is "never break userspace" and that makes major release version changes pointless, the whole reason to change the major version is for "breaking userspace", if someone complains at a change that breaks legacy functionality, its always reverted
>if someone complains at a change that breaks legacy functionality, its always reverted
this is false. Userspace is never broken unless the linux people arbitrarily decide some feature set or architecture is no longer supported (or they don't wish to maintain it) and kill it. See i386 for example.
However, to be fair it is a rather rare occurence and the general trend is that these things only get booted if there is very little complaining beforehand.
Kinda part of my point, if it actually breaks users, a change will get reverted, its just very likely that i386 users for example wouldn't even use the latest 3.7 kernel, (and they likely wouldn't much care to update, most likely they were not even networked systems, so they'd have to be manually install the kernel anyway) if you had any remaining users doing that, there was almost no software that could support it and most likely those doing it were modifying the kernel anyway. Of cases alternate to that, least since the Linux kernels ubiquity as the Unix/POSIX standard, I can't recall a case where people actually complained and it didn't get reverted.
sry, I don't install troonysoft on my pc
Your loss
First version of macro-builder. It's not a mockup.
>discipline 1400%
>manoeuvre 9
what? did they just sum those stats of all the regiments?
noice
What happened to IRL armies if the soldiers were recruited from a region X, and that homeland region X was ceded after a war?
Did the disbanded soldiers just go home to live in an "enemy" land? Were they forced/did they choose to resettle somewhere in their army's country?
Which timeframe? Levies were usually limited to campaigning seasons and would return to their farm or cities, though the victors were at liberty to either confiscate the land or enslave the people so it was really up to them. A lot of the problems in late republican Rome stemmed from the campaigning seasons getting longer and longer. Professional soldiers would have had contracts or expected time of service, though they could have deserted and returned to their homes. Imperial Russia demanded 25 years of service of their recruits, who were selected by chance from villages, and allowed the few still alive or invalidated for servicr to return to their villages afterwards and the army/government procured housing for them. Still, by then they would have been completely alienated from their former community and often became the village drunkards.
>Which timeframe?
19th century
raping a man is still gay
just fricking kill them you horny moron
spudcuck isn't nearly as based as you've deluded yourself into believing but then again white people are so desperate for a saviour they will latch onto anything
see: donald trump
>t. brown troon
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/pull/630
macro builder merged
It's out
https://github.com/schombert/Project-Alice/releases/download/v1.0.3/1.0.3.7z
Includes macro builder, gfm compatibility improvements, gigantic list of fixes and adjustments. Biggest release in a while.
give us crimeamod compatibility
bother leaf if you want a compatibility patch
POV europe during the fall of rome
i'm not playing until someone confirms the game at least kinda feels like vanilla. as in, the AI can handle itself and will act in predictable/consistent ways similar to vanilla.
i hate the Project Alice AI, I as an European should be able to win against a shithole nation like brazil but then they naval invaded and went sieging into utretch those Brazilians this is not realistic I hope they make the AI easier
>victoria 2 recreation
>cant play with mods unless some troony has bothered to make "compatch" for it
to be fair it is because thed mods themselves are buggy, and project alice refuses to run mods with errors, unlike vanilla vicy 2 which just ignores errrors alltogether
As it stands, could it simulate a normal victoria 2 game?
superficially, yes
as long as you stick with speed one and two yes
>the most kino kontent
that would be Bigweevil, nobody actually likes you spud, they only watch your videos for the autists in the lobby, you are just like that effeminate cuck from denmark
i like spud, i am patiently waiting for openvic
the spud hussars are doing overtime lately huh
>change a single line
>entire game takes 10 minutes to recompile because Schombert has everything get dumped into a single monstrous .cpp file
>spend hours separating and reorganizing the files so they can be compiled separately
>change a single line
>game now takes 15 seconds to rebuild
Autistic code suited for an autism project.
Make a PR to show how autistic the code is
is crimeamod patched yet?
its a bit too unplayable with the half broken AI