Second half of this year:
The Tendie Tablet 2 delayed.
 It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
 Tip Your Landlord Shirt $21.68 |
It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
PS5 Pro incoming
Second half of this year:
The Tendie Tablet 2 delayed.
It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
Tip Your Landlord Shirt $21.68 |
It's All Fucked Shirt $22.14 |
Why would anyone want this lol
It's for people who want to run their movies at a higher framerate/resolution
Maybe some people want to pay more so they have no games to play.
you know GTA 6 is going to be the biggest console selling game ever, right?
the GTA formula seems dated
Delusional tendie.
gta 6 is going to flop lel
Flop no, underperform severely yes. This generation is a fraud and when 6 struggles to make V numbers it'll be undeniable proof.
You do know that Rockstar isnt even nearly moronic enough to not release GTA 6 on the last gen right?
>2025
>Prob late 2025
>Wanting to be gimped the by the fricking Jaguar CPU
Nah, it will be 9th gen only
No it wont you zoomer moron. Nu rockstar doesnt give a flying frick about anything but shekels. Theyve gimped the entire design of their last two games to run on current gen hardware
You know the Jaguar CPU was originally designed for the Windows 8 tablet craze of 2011, it is literally an x86 tablet CPU.
trust me bro and even factory doesn't leak news.
Why wouldn't anyone want this?
Why don't they focus on releasing some games?
No games and the ps4 pro didn't improve performance and in some cases even made it worse.
Why would anyone fall for this shit again?
They want all of their own games to be big blockbusters to give the console a sense of prestige. And since these things take a decade to make they can only do a couple of them per gen. They would never let themselves diversify their output with lesser "aa" games that could be made in a year, yuck. You need to buy a nintendo console if you want games. The PS5 is for displaying next to the tv like an ugly vase.
>ps4 pro didn't improve performance and in some cases even made it worse
Wait, really? Mine was a PS4 Slim and did a lot of noise when playing SW:FO so I almost bought a Pro, but it really isn't worthy?
There are two major assumptions about the necessity of the pro so far (IF it will sell):
- satisfy the core userbase by guaranteeing 60fps in every game, especially if new games might go back to 30fps (like Dragon's Dogma 2, GTA6 might be 30 too)
- project a halo effect on the PS5 (consoles are still stronk, PS is the premium gaming experience)
Basically it ultimately boils down to Sony (and really everyone else) hoping GTA6 will explode and saves the dwindling console (all console) sales. If GTA6 won't move the needle substantially (it can be successful and not sell systems) then the entire console industry is beyond fricked up and will force everyone to change strategies.
They could guarantee 60 fps in every game if the simply had a mandate saying you needed to hit 1080p 60 as a minimum quality standard before being allowed on the store. All a pro does is let them target 30 fps with a slight resolution bump so instead of 720p it'll be 900p. The marketing may revolve around lies of better performance, but that's not how game development works.
>a mandate saying you needed to hit 1080p 60 as a minimum quality standard before being allowed on the store.
That would be nice. Modern hardware is powerful enough for it.
PS5's GPU was gimped because of Sony's penny pinching ¯_(ツ)_/¯
RDNA 2 was designed around the bandwidth provided by the Infinity Cache (L3 cache), but Sony didn't include any L3 cache for the GPU on the PS5.
The result? A lot less bandwidth for the streaming processors of the GPU, less bandwidth means lower game render resolution.
Rdna 2 relied heavily on cache because amd was penny pinching on bus width a problem the PS5 doesn't have. You are literally getting things backwards.
>bus width
The bus is assigned by the quantity of memory.
GDDR6 is still using an order of x32 bits per package, the PS5 GPU, aka RX 6700 only has a 160-bit because it has 5 GDDR6 packages of 16Gb each one, 5*32=160bits, 16Gb*5=10GB of VRAM.
The PS5 has a bus of 256-bit because it has 16GB of GDDR6, and you have to remember that the CPU also needs to be feed off these bus, desktop and mobile ryzen has two 64-bit channels for a total of 128-bit, the PS5's GPU is bandwidth starved as frick.
Am I talking to a bot? Sure feels like it.
Let me explain better:
The RX 6700, aka PS5 GPU, only had a 160-bit bus because of the 10GB of VRAM, not because AMD was penny pinching bandwidth, this GPU also has 80MB of L3 cache, to provide even more bandwidth for instructions.
The PS5 256-bit bus has to feed what is basically a Ryzen 3700X plus a RX 6700, and this RX 6700 doesn't even have the L3 to help it.
Sony penny pinched, not AMD.
It only had 10gb of vram because amd was penny pinching on buswidth throughout the lineup. It could've had 16 had they not. You aren't proving anything with your example.
I don't see the RX 6700 running games at 720p ¯_(ツ)_/¯
PS5 doesn't have a 6700, it has an overlooked 5700. PS5 is RDNA1.5. Performance is 5700xt/2070.
*overclocked
>Modern hardware is powerful enough for it.
All hardware has been powerful enough. If you want to make games run at 60 FPS, you can target that, it's just a matter of optimization and what you are willing to give up in exchange. Devs don't target 60 FPS though, it's not a priority for them because customers don't decide to buy a game or not based on that.
No. This is cope. A java-based turn-based RPG will still run awfully on a PC that can easily run most games at a consistent 1080p and 60 FPS. It's ridiculous how some people think that such a standard is unrealistic.
>optimization and what you are willing to give up in exchange.
nodev word salad.
Holy cope, so do you guys really think the PS5 is powerful enough to run something like FF XVI at 4K 60fps but Square was just lazy, ilmao.
>consistent 1080p and 60 FPS
>4K 60fps
>do you guys really think
it's not about thinking, it's about knowing. You are just a dumbass barking shit to impress the children of your discords. Doesn't work with adults.
Knowing what moron? Been on PC for 15 years now, I know the capabilities of the hardware, and the GPU inside the PS5 is simply not 4K capable for AAA games.
ilmao, this isn't a PS3's CELL hidden power scenario, all x86 tools are compilers are optimized and have been optimized to the brim for the last 15 years.
PS5 and XBOX Series X run GTA V at a consistent 1080p and 60 FPS. A consistent 1080p and 60 FPS is not hard with modern hardware.
>1080p and 60 FPS
Yeah, that's perfectly doable on the PS5 and XSX hardware, but this
anon is tripping if he thinks GTA VI will released on 8th gen.
Meant this moron
The PS4Pro allowed 60fps in almost every game (albeit on a lower res), I don't see why the PS5Pro wouldn't be the same.
>The PS4Pro allowed 60fps in almost every game (albeit on a lower res),
it didn't lol
Barely any game got 60 fps modes exclusive to PS4 Pro, because the CPU was barely an improvement over base PS4, while it was already weak enough.
Even modded Bloodborne at 720p drops to 30s fps when streaming in the new level area.
CPUs in current gen consoles are actually good. If a PS5 game can't run at 60 fps, PS5 Pro won't be able to do it either, since as far as it comes to GPU bottleneck, you can just lower the resolution to 720p like devs already do.
>satisfy the core userbase by guaranteeing 60fps in every game
That is not how this shit works. If a dev doesn't optimize their game to run at 60 fps right now, throwing more power at them won't make them start optimizing for 60 fps. They will just do an even worse job and run at the same shitty, uneven framerate.
>satisfy the core userbase by guaranteeing 60fps in every game
literally impossible because moronic fricking devs will just see "wow, more power, i can add more effects that tank the framerate because 30fps is fine!"
I am sure all zero of those PS5 games will run buttery smooth on it
I already have a blue ray player thanks
Why didn't they completely redesign it?
I can't be the only one who refuses to buy this thing because of the way it looks.
I'm with you man. I think it looks just fricking awful, I thought it was a joke when I first saw screenshots of it on Ganker. I literally thought I'd wait for a slim model in the hopes that it was less fricking big and stupid looking.
But now I don't even want one because still the only game it has is demons souls but shit so I guess I lucked out.
>I literally thought I'd wait for a slim model in the hopes that it was less fricking big and stupid looking.
I'm still annoyed by that
>"Slim model!"
>It's only just slightly smaller than the original
What the frick. I didn't even realize they did that.
It's the same fricking size, are they moronic?
Which one is the slim? I dont have a ps5
The one with the racing stripe
I’m with you. Obnoxiously sized and laughably shaped console. Saw one at my bro’s house for the first time and I straight away laughed at the sight of the thing. Looked like a model rocket ship next to his TV.
If this really is coming, then I am definitely not buying a PS5 for Rise of the Ronin.
>but just get the PC port, ROTR isn't a PS5 exclusive
Nah. Team Ninja PC ports are typically dogshit.
Nioh 1-2, stranger of paradise and wo long ran just fine on my system. Wo long even ran at 120 fps.
To play what fricking games
>jail broken PS5 Pro
Perfect machine, imagine playing Switch games on it.
I have my doubts they'll do a Pro anytime soon.
No one wants their shitty consoles. Just put the games on PC already.
>pro
PRO?
as in, professional?
wtf do words even mean anymore?
Never heard of the PS4 Pro?
i don't even know what a PS3 looks like
Question still stands.
Can you play your PS4 games in this? Because I did have a lot
You can even on the normal PS5
You have more than ONE GAME?
I...bought the SAO games in an offer, and a lot of JRPG, they're trash but I like them
Oh Yeah? You have ONE GAME? Let me see it
>This thread
If it launched with mothafricking GTA6, you'd better believe I'd be in line outside of my Walmart.
>Sir, with tax that'll be $1000
You better believe I'd be the first to walk out in disgust.
>analyst say
What did the analyst say to Sony projecting less hardware sales this year? If the Pro was out you would assume they will sell at least as much as the original projection. Or does Sony think even with a new SKU people still won't buy PS5s?
>third iteration of the PS5
>still has zero games
PS5 Pro doesn't make sense. FSR2 made it redundant.
If PS4 Pro is anything to go by, games won't just receive 60 fps modes exclusive to Pro. At best they'll get more stable framerate and use higher quality FSR2 mode.
Not to mention there are barely any 9th gen only games and they're already talking about next gen.
It would be glorified PS4 Pro Pro Pro.
>PS5 Pro doesn't make sense
Base PS5 drops to 720p to maintain 60fps on FF XVI.
Even with FSR 2, a 720p image scaled to 4K wouldn't look good.
Devs are to blame, not hardware. As game's director said, FF16 could come out on PS4 if they had spent more time. 720p was unacceptable even on PS4.
PS4 Pro was at least necessary to support 4K TVs properly.
PS5 Pro won't be able to target native 4K either. At this point it would be a better choice to improve on temporal upscaling technologies than release new hardware.
>720p was unacceptable even on PS4.
Plenty of games ran at 720p on the base PS4.
Not really. I can remember Nioh in performance mode and some trash ports like Ark.
Even RE4make released just last year was 900p.
It was Xbone that used 720p more often.
9th gen consoles legit use lower resolution more often than PS4.
>Even with FSR 2, a 720p image scaled to 4K wouldn't look good.
Yeah, ultra performance mode looks like trash, however there are better ways of handling upscaling. Instead use lower output resolution, while maintaining higher upscaling quality. Lowering output to 1800p is enough to make significant performance gains without damaging the image quality into a blurry mess. Even 1620p is fine.
not that anon but ultra performance basically requires a mega high resolution to be mostly on par with native, but 8k is fricking overkill
>PS5 Pro doesn't make sense.
Correct.
>FSR2 made it redundant.
lol lmao
man who cares? AAA games are garbage. I haven't had a proper gaming pc in more than half a decade, I bought a series s in 2021 and it runs the one or two big games a year I give enough of a shot to try, everything else I care about is built for switch or could run on a fricking super nintendo. frick graphicsprostitutes
>more consoles than games
Is GTA 6 going to be on the ps5 pro ? Not going to get one anyway.
and what games would be played on it?
wake me up when they fix the controller ergonomics
>Here's another iteration of our glorified PS4
No thanks
There aren't any good exclusives for the regular PS5, why get a Pro? Why get any of these bullshit consoles these days?
>releasing new hardware this year when you announced clear and loud you had no new games until spring 2025
That's stupid enough to be true.
>Consoles are now receiving hardware upgrades halfway through their lifetime
They are just cheaper pcs at this point, just without the games
The Sony CD.
Wow, now I can play all my favorite PS5 games such as.... and....AND....at much higher quality!
What value!
Don't forget.... and.... is coming out later this year!
I bet it's not even going to beat out the 3060 ti in terms of power
I play on console because I prefer it to PC. They could stop making exclusives altogether and it wouldnt change the fact I just like playing games on a comfy console and leave my PC/laptop for work/casual use.
You know what's comfier. Not having to buy any games/pay for online and being able to pirate most games.
I buy/spend my money on things that I enjoy and consider worthy of my investment. I dont need to pirate the latest slop. Even when I used my PC I pirated games only when I was a teen with no money of my own. I dont pay for online because I dont play online games
Not interested in that, but I agree that PC is the ultimate gaming experience when it comes to variety/certain aspects, its just not for everyone.
I pirate because I don't want to support the modern gaming industry
Can your console create cute AI waifus for you? I didn't think so, that's why PC will always be superior
So what launches with it, you don't drop a more powerful SKU with literally nothing
Sony's going broke. Do you really think they'll have enough capital to push out a PS5 Pro?