even as you watch the video when they start to move out of the camera the 4th one moves away towards the top right where the dog moves to bottom right instead
You are over thinking it. Glimmora probably just eat tera crystals or something like that. New peach mon does the same, and that’s why both are both poison type
This fricker most likely flaked and ran like a pansy the second the ogre went on the rampage. There's plush-like doll of it at the market where you buy everything in town.
I was wondering what that “old ornament” was. That means it used to be celebrated like the others but was forgotten. Is this the thing possessing cuckran?
what if terapagos isn't the pokemon granting wishes?
it's probably this thing. after all, terapagos definitely wasn't the one who gave the loyal three the toxic chains.
I am pretty sure they both grant wishes. Terapagos seems to be the source of Tera crystals, which not only power the time machine but also make the AI professor function.
if the thing is a mutated glimmora, then we just need to know the connection between terapagos, tera crystals, and glimmoras.
I wouldn't be surprised if terapagos is just the source of everything and a bunch of things tangentially related to it have wish-granting powers rubbed off on them
8 months ago
Anonymous
Dokutaro seems to be related to Glimmora, which is itself related to Tera Crystals, which come from Terapagos
So I'd say the more likely scenario is that Terapagos is the source of these wishing powers, and Dokutaro is a mutated Glimmora who somehow became able to use part of Terapagos' powers, allowing it to grant wishes as well (though probably on a smaller scale than Terapagos)
what if briar its actually dokutaro in disguise? that would explain her purple outfit
Dokutaro seems to be related to Glimmora, which is itself related to Tera Crystals, which come from Terapagos
So I'd say the more likely scenario is that Terapagos is the source of these wishing powers, and Dokutaro is a mutated Glimmora who somehow became able to use part of Terapagos' powers, allowing it to grant wishes as well (though probably on a smaller scale than Terapagos)
8 months ago
Anonymous
Wouldn't be the first legendary/mythical that was a mutation of a common Pokemon
8 months ago
Anonymous
Glimmora is also a poison-type. Just food for thought.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Glimmet's petals are made of "crystallized poison," and Glimmora's petals are explicitly related to Tera crystals.
There's a clear connection between Tera crystals and Poison.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>tera crystals poison the mind >makes scientist go insane >makes heath get amnesia and make schizo drawings >generally responsible for all the bad things happening
seems about right
>The Loyal 3 were actually loyal the whole time, just to the Peach sacrificing themselves to buy it time to escape, making the name apt even if they were Loyal to a butthole.
Neat!
Feels like an odd choice to have a mon tied to the Loyal Three not be released in Teal Mask (unless it’s a Mythical that’ll be unceremoniously distributed at some point).
I guess it’s possible we’ll go back to Kitakami at some point in Indigo Dosk, though.
What is it with Pokemon gays and always leaking everything months before release, jesus fricking christ, not even the Sonic fanbase is that autistic, can't you gays wait for the actual content to come out instead of leaking it all and ruining the surprise to everyone?
I mean, in this case the Peach Pokemon subtly appears in-game in the flashback, and the Loyal Three's categories are all "Retainer Pokemon." If they're all retainers, then they must have a lord. That's not a leak, it's foreshadowing
So the loyal three actually attacked ogerpon and her master because this thing ordered it, right? It must need crystal energy that it can't make itself, unlike the turtle.
There's an ornament... so clearly people knew about it in Kitakami at some point. Did it use its powers to make people forget about it?
Like this guy notes apparently the Ghost lantern at the Kitakami festival is the only unaccounted for type, so it's possible this Momotaro mon will be Poison/Ghost.
Maybe he doesn't, he might just be interested in the tera shards in the mask. It might be somehow related to Glimmora which has a direct connection to tera crystals somehow
Here's my theory >Mutated Glimmora like how Diancie is a mutated Carbink >It's a wish granter similarly to Terapagos, but the wishes it grants poisons those who wish for them into bad motherfrickers. >When Kieran wishes to be strong enough to beat you, it's the one that answers.
>Unova and Paldea both have mystery areas in the middle of them that have weird shit happen in them >Treasures are evil versions of the Genies >DLC introduces a legendary trio with it's fourth member being a mythical
hmmm.......
Design wise that's where their therian formes (loosely) draw inspiration >azure dragon = thundurus >vermilion bird = tornadus >white tiger = landorus >black tortoise = enamorus
Being one of those mythological concepts that have a million variations, and since legendary pokemon are rarely based on a single idea, they mixed a few elements >sometimes the bird is explicitly a phoenix (or 2 phoenixes) >the tiger is occasionally a qilin >some later depictions of black tortoise have it accompanied by a snake, which is enamorus' tail/scarf
The group also has many different names >four symbols >four mythological creatures >four guardians >four auspicious beasts
Etc etc
If it's related to the story, and tying up all the lose ends of the time machine and AI professor jimbo jambo then it can't be a mythical Pokemon (i.e. limited time movie promotion distribution)
The main story's loose ends will be tied up by Terapagos.
Momomon will exist to explain the backstory of the Loyal Three, like how Hoopa explains the portals in ORAS.
Also why do people keep saying there will be a movie? I thought they stopped doing those because even Japanese children weren't watching them anymore?
I believe the person who data mined the texture files originally was one of those twitter leakers, Matt, or Anubis or someone like that… Pearlenthusiast is the earliest I could find
I'm looking but I can't find this image anywhere. Was i fan drawn?
There's also this
This fricker most likely flaked and ran like a pansy the second the ogre went on the rampage. There's plush-like doll of it at the market where you buy everything in town.
which shows the creature in-game, or rather a plush of it
Is it a creature or an item though? If this is fanart then we don't know what the 'face' actually looks like.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The original image is
There ya go
https://i.imgur.com/jSSdWtD.jpg
was just colored in purple, to make it look like the Toxic Chains, but both are the image taken directly from the games files, which shows a fraction of it peeking out from the top right corner.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, where is the original from...The only place I've found it is a fan account that colored it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
if you want the original just open up the game files. the real proof is somewhere in the game, I don’t know how to do it. you don’t know how to do it. go ask a SV modder or something
8 months ago
Anonymous
There (You) go.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Thank you.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>the mon based off the Momotaro peach is teased by a store owner named Peachy
D E E P E S T L O R E
8 months ago
Anonymous
The toxic chains are a funny concept, I wonder how the original Pokémon looked like without them or the influence of momoet
Literally just look it up. Boy born from peach, goes on journey with Dog, Pheasant, and Monkey, fells Oni, etc. etc. Pokemon's just doing a subversion of that were the Oni is the good guy and the three companions (and possibly Momotaro himself) are the troublemakers.
And what the frick does that have to do with Po- >Dog, Pheasant, and Monkey
Oh
And ogre, yes.
Momotarou himself is the only one currently missing. At first I thought Kieran was supposed to be taking that role, since the signs have a human trainer alongside the Loyal Three, but now it looks like there is an unseen pokémon that is the source of the Toxic Chain.
Peach master gave Dogi, Dori, and Dipity the chains, which "stimulated them" and caused their wishes to come true. Dogi got muscular. Dori got big brain. Dipity got pretty
Kieran's a weak little baby b***h boy who wants to be stronger. Wants to be better than what he currently is.
Kieran gettin a chain
oh frick he's already got purple in his color scheme and everything
Literally just look it up. Boy born from peach, goes on journey with Dog, Pheasant, and Monkey, fells Oni, etc. etc. Pokemon's just doing a subversion of that were the Oni is the good guy and the three companions (and possibly Momotaro himself) are the troublemakers.
Probably not. None of them look remotely like the Unova leaders or the Unova E4
Yes.
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One of them is literally named Drayton.
mmmm if we go for the japanese names, the white girl has the same theme as clay and the black girl has the same theme as lenora, the crispin guy could be the stration trio younger brother, but its hard to tell
Kieran is Momotaro. The roles are reversed here. He loved the ogre at first and now that he was rejected he hates MC/Ogrepon. He meets the Peach Mon and teams up with it to seek revenge.
>Kieran gets toxic chain'd >he becomes strong, intelligent and beutiful >when you defeat him in the last battle, the peach mon takes over him and a second battle occurs >Kieran´s mon get some type of buff for the rematch like mother lusamine fight
I kinda doubt they go that far. We might get a cutscene when he reveals it but it probably won't be anything crazy. Budget is probably being saved for Terapogos shenanigans.
Wait wait, so >Kieran's intense negativity resonates with the Tera Crystals in the Teal Mask >The Tera Crystals inadvertently stimulate the nearby Toxic Chains >The juiced-up Toxic Chains resurrect the Loyal Three
Oh shit, it makes sense.
>3 weak pathetic pokemon >throw them a bone with a wish chain transforming them >enslave them >send them on a mission to get the tera masks >they die >lol whatever rip you slave losers, tera masks aint worth it
From the image in the OP this thing doesn't really seem to be a bad guy. It might have granted the Loyal Three's wishes and thus be their "master", but it's sad/worried expression makes me thing it opposed to them stealing the masks. It probably became unable to control the trio and their greed after they became smarter/stronger/prettier
>Momotaro-kun grants the Loyal Three’s wishes >gets stuck with a band of arrogant buttholes >eventually they frick off and get themselves killed >can finally live in peace >centuries later a kid’s teenage angst revives them >have to deal with their shit again
Momotaro-kun has to be fricking livid
That would be an interesting angle to take. So far everything has been a subversion of the original Momotaro myth, but it wouldn't be too bizarre for GF to pull a double-subversion on us.
I don't think they will, I'm pretty confident Dokutaro or whatever it ends up being called will either be on Kieran's team or serve as an antagonist on its own, but having it actually be good would be a fun twist
>in the myth Momotaro was a good guy who was followed by a monkey, a dog and a pheasant, who were also good guys, and together they beat the evil ogre >in pokémon Momotaro is a good guy who was abandoned by the evil monkey, dog and pheasant it helped, and those three were then beaten by the good ogre
Seems like a good dose of subversion for me
Momotaro got used for Japanese Imperial propaganda in not one but three separate wars.
The word translated Orichalcum for Koraidon also has Imperial japanese supremacy connections, due to some alternate history claims that make Ancient Aliens look reasonable (for more info look up the Takenouchi Documents)
And the Legend Arceus was about how the Imperial colonization of Hokaido and domination of the Ainu was good and equitable actually.
They're almost certainly going to double subvert Momotaro to make him the good guy again.
>And the Legend Arceus was about how the Imperial colonization of Hokaido and domination of the Ainu was good and equitable actually.
This was so funny. The Japanese did everything short of literal genocide to the Ainu but most Westerners have never heard of them so the blatant whitewashing went over everyone's heads.
I've never heard of the Takenouchi Documents but I'm definitely looking them up. I love schizohistory.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Did you know when Jesus kind of disappears in the bible between ages 13 and 33, that that's because he walked all the way to fricking japan and lived there for two decades learning about buddhism? APPARENTLY SO. Oh and then after he was resurrected he went and lived there again until he died a natural death, and is buried there. Yup.
Oh and that humanity was originally created in 5 colors one of which was blue (cambodians), japan is the literal center of the universe, and was prehistories' most advanced civilization, with airships they used to rule over all the other countries of the world, and magic metals and japanese as the universal tongue of all the earth.
And Lewis Mountain in Virginia isn't named after an american explorer named Lewis, no its name is derived from romanized japanese "Ryuzu" 'Dragon's Head', even though it's only been called that for like 300 years and the actually ancient native word for it is "Onteora" 'Hills of the Sky' in Munsee.
The guy that wrote this stuff tried to contact aliens on live TV. It is WILD. A bunch of people believe it though because it tells them stuff they want to feel. Same reason as the FFWPU. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of overlap in believers, kind of like archeology conspiracists and flat earthers.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Did you know when Jesus kind of disappears in the bible between ages 13 and 33, that that's because he walked all the way to fricking japan and lived there for two decades learning about buddhism? APPARENTLY SO. Oh and then after he was resurrected he went and lived there again until he died a natural death, and is buried there. Yup.
That's dumb! Everyone knows that Jesus never died, his brother just took his place on the cross so he could move to Japan, marry a Japanese woman, and become a farmer.
> A bunch of people believe it
When I googled it, most of the results seem to be from believers, at least in English. A lot of them are wordpress sites, which seems to be a good marker for schizophrenia.
8 months ago
Anonymous
oh frick you're right i was misremembering it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Wait, are you saying the Takenouchi Documents happen to line up exactly with the story told by that village that claims to have Jesus's real grave? Because that's what I was referencing.
8 months ago
Anonymous
maybe i'm conflating them? it's been a while since i've fully read either story.
>Momotaro-kun grants the Loyal Three’s wishes >gets stuck with a band of arrogant buttholes >eventually they frick off and get themselves killed >can finally live in peace >centuries later a kid’s teenage angst revives them >have to deal with their shit again
Momotaro-kun has to be fricking livid
Could be Peachmon needed the masks for a serious reason, like it's in bad health and the masks could fix it, and the Loyal 3 went to take them to help their master in spite of its wishes since it doesn't want to see them hurt.
It's cliche enough that I could see it, or maybe this generation really is the one time we see Pokemon who are genuinely malicious buttholes.
its implied the broke into the cave where ogrepon and his trainer lived, killed him, then stole the masks. and ogrepon followed them them down and killed the 3 in a fit of rage
>Kieran's yellow eyes match the Loyal Three and his purple hair also matches the toxic chains
Very subtle...
>sad/worried expression
Well, considering the way it's positioned in
This fricker most likely flaked and ran like a pansy the second the ogre went on the rampage. There's plush-like doll of it at the market where you buy everything in town.
and if this is the way it's supposed to look, then it might be upside down, and it might actually have a gleeful look to it. But that's just me shooting in the dark and that lady just has the thing upside-down because she doesn't know it's not supposed to be displayed like that.
Don't forget this. Geeta's definitely not human, and explicitly tied to all this Area Zero stuff.
Geeta is suspicious but I don't think she isn't human, considering that's just regular anime anatomy for you and Pokemon characters in newer gens have always been rather stylized.
Zombies
Don't tell me there's going to be necromancy or something. Is Briar going to wish her dead grandpappy back to life or something???
>considering that's just regular anime anatomy for you and Pokemon characters in newer gens have always been rather stylized.
bruh. BRUH. I literally included a normal Pokémon character (one might even say the most normal pokemon character) IN THAT IMAGE, along with what a version of her edited to have what a normal pokemon character anime proportions would look like for side by side comparison.
You really gonna stand here and tell me the edit on the right looks identical to you to the original?
pokémon characters have very different designs in the same generation. Take Iono for example, with those shark teeth. I agree that there's something off about Geeta, but i think she's almost surely human
>Momotaro-kun grants the Loyal Three’s wishes >gets stuck with a band of arrogant buttholes >eventually they frick off and get themselves killed >can finally live in peace >centuries later a kid’s teenage angst revives them >have to deal with their shit again
Momotaro-kun has to be fricking livid
>3 weak pathetic pokemon >throw them a bone with a wish chain transforming them >enslave them >send them on a mission to get the tera masks >they die >lol whatever rip you slave losers, tera masks aint worth it
I like the idea that it's not intentionally evil, it's just that the wishes it grants corrupt whoever it grants them to. Like the Loyal Three or Kieran.
Like a budget version of Terapagos.
Those are just imaginary pokemon. The professor saw them and recognized that, by coincidence, they look like the Beasts/Swords, and since the professor believed everything Heath said was true, the professor assumed this was some coded message and the REAL pokemon that actually exist must be Paradox versions of the Beasts/Swords, so the "time machine" made that happen.
It's like how schizos who think the Bible is literal truth will go on and on about how Leviathan and Behemoth are actually dinosaurs.
It's pretty clearly stated that the artist just dreamt them up. The running theory right now is that the artist imagining them led to Terapagos creating Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, Iron Leaves, Iron Crown, and probably Paradoxes of Entei and Terrakion too, based on said imaginary creatures
I dunno, it seems kind of weird that their parts match near-perfectly with the paradox trio members revealed thus far. Either it's just my schizophrenia acting up or there's something more to it.
And the past fusion also has the lower part of Entei's facial crest and its back plates, while the past one has Terrakion's horns. They're fusions of the legendary beasts and the musketeer trio, we know this. They look suspiciously similar to the four Paradoxes we've gotten from those trios so far because they're based on the same Pokemon, and probably because those drawings were the in-universe inspiration for the legendary Paradoxes. I think you're just picking up on what the rest of us are already theorizing
Those are just imaginary pokemon. The professor saw them and recognized that, by coincidence, they look like the Beasts/Swords, and since the professor believed everything Heath said was true, the professor assumed this was some coded message and the REAL pokemon that actually exist must be Paradox versions of the Beasts/Swords, so the "time machine" made that happen.
It's like how schizos who think the Bible is literal truth will go on and on about how Leviathan and Behemoth are actually dinosaurs.
It's more likely that Sada and Turo based their image of the paradox beasts/swords on their depiction in the occulture magazines.
There are 3 occulture editions missing from each versions of the game and coincidentally the beasts and swords are made up of three members each.
It's clear that the missing occulture articles will be in Blueberry academy during part 2 of the dlc which is when we will learn the truth about paradox pokemon.
Yeah, it could be the schizos who recognized the similarities to the Beasts/Swords were writing for Occulture.
If those missing issues are in the DLC, I hope we also get the issues covering the Paradoxes from the other game, as well as the ones about the Raidons. The pokedex confirms these exist.
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I dunno, it seems kind of weird that their parts match near-perfectly with the paradox trio members revealed thus far. Either it's just my schizophrenia acting up or there's something more to it.
The Paradox pokémon are based on the drawing, not the other way around.
It's pretty clearly stated that the artist just dreamt them up. The running theory right now is that the artist imagining them led to Terapagos creating Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, Iron Leaves, Iron Crown, and probably Paradoxes of Entei and Terrakion too, based on said imaginary creatures
I normally hate fusion on principle, but I have to admit, I would love to finally see the original dragon. I know everyone's already said it, but it really would make a good premise for a Legends game
I normally hate fusion on principle, but I have to admit, I would love to finally see the original dragon. I know everyone's already said it, but it really would make a good premise for a Legends game
I honestly hate that less out of all fusions, because it's not actually a fusion of two or more pokemon. it's one pokemon being made whole and right again.
I feel like they will have the ability to fuse after you encounter all three of them. And that would be the proof that the Paradox Pokemon aren't really past/future Pokemon since it's confirmed to be an imaginary sketch
>Terapagos makes pokemon off of the imagination, going by this sketch >Dokutaro granted the wishes of the loyal three with the toxic chain >Dokutaro and the trio were after the tera masks and their crystals >Glimmora and Dokutaro look similar and presumably share poison typing >Glimmora itself may be made of tera crystals, going off of its dex entry, the fact that you use its petals to craft tera blast tms, and its spawn locations
Dokutaro being an “advanced” Glimmora that tapped into the wish granting power of the crystals would be neat.
My guess is Dokutaro (peach pokemon) can make the chains and slap them onto people/pokemon to control them. Wouldn't be the first time they used this type of trope.
It's possible. Or she's the one who gave it to Kieran, or whatever ends up going on there. The website says it's specifically her that gives us our introductory tour of BB Academy, so they're clearly going to have us meet her early on, which is usually a sign that a character will have a more important role
I think Kieran found Dokutaro after Teal Mask and secretly brought it to BB Academy, and the zombies are people who have been enslaved by it.
Actual walking (human) corpses seem out of the question for this series, so "zombie" is likely being used in the original sense of a mindless slave.
I mean nihilego was a parasite-mind control while the probably new mon maybe can control multiple individuals at once with his toxic-chain Power? Just a theory but still somewhat different
Dokutaro is the shadow ruler of paldea, all that shit of wanting to investigate area zero was caused by him to tap into terapago full wishmaker powers and he sealed the ruin pokemon because they tried to stop him
The game makes a very big deal about how far away Kitakami is from Paldea.
Did you even play it?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Kitakami is PokeJapan. Paldea is PokeSpain. What part am I misunderstanding? Or are you upset that I'm not jumping to conclusions like you are? Unova is PokeNewYork where Kieran is with Dokutaro.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Kitakami is PokeJapan. Paldea is PokeSpain.
In other words, Paldea is a far away land.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Tell me again how the mexican aliens are real.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>non-sequitor
Wow, you sure showed me!
8 months ago
Anonymous
>picks and choose what part of my post to respond to >immediately turns into a debatelord
wow you're the same homosexual that's on here every thread. do you not have anything better to do?
8 months ago
Anonymous
fair enough but we still dont have any reason to believe the loyal three came from paldea
being "far away" is not enough information to properly justify it
i think its a good possibility considering Dokutaro shares so many similarities to Glimmora, but we still don't have enough information to assume the three are Paldean Pokemon
8 months ago
Anonymous
The ancient king of Paldea was known to be obsessed with collecting treasure, which could provide an explanation for the Loyal Three's mask theft.
Dokutaru seems to be connected to Glimmora, which is directly connected to Area Zero, but that's still speculation.
There is definitely no proof, but it's certainly a possibility.
8 months ago
Anonymous
My schizo theory is this: >Dokutaro cohabited with terapagos in area zero in the past >Got exiled of the place but gained the power to control/grant wishes with the toxic chain >Possesed the paldea king and enslaved the loyal three >sent the loyal three to collect the masks but they got killed >gave life to the treasue of ruin thanks to the negative emotions of the treasures >gets betrayed by them and imprisioned them, but this got him to weak to continued controling the paldea king >go into hidding until heath's time and began manipulating his family to investigate area zero again >now is also manipulating kieran also to further his agenda
8 months ago
Anonymous
Homie how long do you expect the DLC to be to cover everything? It's gonna be Pheramosa part 2 then you move on to Area Zero.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Thats just a two minute backstory
8 months ago
Anonymous
convenient lore dumps and explanations in the blueberry academy library
8 months ago
Anonymous
The Paradox book is censored and you expect a lore dump on the other side of the world?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>The Paradox book is censored
Did you play the game?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yes I did. Did you know Briar has the original one? Did you know that every single public copy is censored? Did you know that? Did you play the game?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Briar, who teaches at Blueberry Academy, has access to the uncensored version of a censored book.
How exactly does this rule out the BB library having info that the Paldean library doesn't?
8 months ago
Anonymous
How convenient that Briar has all that information about Terapogos and its cohabitation when she's trying to prove Terapogos exists in the first place. How convenient Briar made sure none of that information made it to Paldea in support of her ancestor Heath that people have been questioning and doubting for hundreds of years.
8 months ago
Anonymous
She is being controlled by dokutaro, her jacket is the toxic chain
8 months ago
Anonymous
Go to bed sleepy boy you've done too much speculating today.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Because she inherited it from it being the original book that Heath wrote with his own two hands?
>Area Zero = AZ >Floette Encounters >Diancie/Carbink are made of crystal >Carbink appear right under the Crystal Pool in Kitakami >Mega Diancie has crystals on the bottom that look extremely similar to Terapagos' Crystals
WHAT THE FRICK DOES IT MEAN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
wait a fricking second >Born from the high temperatures and pressures deep underground, [Carbink] defends itself by firing beams from the israeliteel part of its body.
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
That reminds me that Carbink was the only Pokemon that was initially in SV without a dex entry. I think it's a guarantee that it has some greater purpose because of that.
carbink was transfer only, but it was the only transfer only that wasnt a hisuian pokemon, starter, or a legend/mythical
it just kinda stuck out like a sore thumb, but at the time i figured they brought it back only cause they bothered to do diancie this time and the autist at game freak doesnt want them separated
i meant more so that diancie existed alongside carbink, not that diancie was actually easily obtainable
both in SM and SWSH you could transfer one in, so they both exist simultaneously
i also checked and diancie was indeed added to SWSH with the crown tundra so at no point did they exist without the other
hell maybe im just being autistic but it does seem deliberate
Okay I get what you mean now & forgot it was in SwSh. Can't really say definitively until more generations establish a pattern, but I think it adds up nicely with theory at least.
I would add fact that mega stones ARE litteraly dream stones as the mega designs usually show how pokemon wanted to be.
Few examples:
Kanga kid grows strong
Pinsir can fly
Lucario Aura power has expanded
Sableye just get FRICKING HUGE gem
Charizard becomes agile and dragon
Metwo becomes even stronger
glalie has its jaw explode off
aerodactyl is in extreme pain form all the rocks jutting out of its skin.
slowbro is eaten by the shellder to the point it can no longer move
Aerodactyl is in pain due to the excess of power from the mega evolution process rather than the rocks.
Slowbro is actually comfortable in the Shelder shell.
Glalie is kinda fricked though.
Not true. Megas exaggerate a single trait to an extreme degree. It's why most of them are kind of goofy looking, and why the pokedex entries keep mentioning how painful they are.
I sort of misremembered. They don't all reference pain, but most make it clear there is a huge drawback to unleashing so much power: >Gengar will attack anyone, even its own trainer >Kangaskhan's child is only good at fighting, and she worries about its future >Alakazam's muscles have atrophied to uselessness >Pinsir literally can't stop looking for a fight >Gyarados is too moronic to think about anything but destruction >Aerodactyl is in pain >Scizor will literally MELT if it stays mega evolved for too long. >Heracross's muscles are all sore >Houndoom is being burned alive from inside and is in pain >Tyranitar's body split apart and only its destructive instincts keep it moving >Manectric is literally overflowing with power and can't keep it contained >Banette can't stop itself from cursing its own trainer >Absol hates being in a combat form >Garchomp's wings literally melted and it's super pissed off about this >Lucario can't think about anything but combat >Sableye has a graphic description of the gemstone "ripping through its skin," plus it's too heavy for Sableye to move >Glalie's jaw is dislocated and it can't eat >Salamence may attack its own trainer >Metagross is now incredibly cruel and a sore loser
A few of them have nothing negative, but there's a running theme that mega evolution is incredibly unpleasant for most Pokemon, which is probably why it requires a strong bond with its trainer: they would otherwise refuse to put themselves through such an experience.
They aren't dreams they are a radiated stone as far as we know
glalie has its jaw explode off
aerodactyl is in extreme pain form all the rocks jutting out of its skin.
slowbro is eaten by the shellder to the point it can no longer move
Also mega aerodactyl is true aerodactyl according to the Pokémon company, the fossil revival procedure nerfed him hard apparently
>Ultimate Weapon fired 3000 years ago against both sides in the Kalosian war >shit ton of wars between the irl counterparts of Kalos and Paldea as well as being right next to each other >massive fricking crater in the middle of paldea is confirmed to be there at least 2000 years ago
you thinkin what I'm thinkin?
No idea. I made the comparison by considering that the Ruins are based on Four Perils, which are the opposite of the Sacred Beasts that the Kamis are inspired by.
Also, the Loyal Three are thieves mistaken and revered by humans as heroes while the Swords are actual heroes that came to conflict with humans.
Last one, I think if Momotaro is the mastermind that controls the Loyal Three, it would be a neat contrast to Keldeo being a rookie who was trained and groomed by the Swords of Justice.
I think the overall theme here is opposites.
https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1703105866864685321
It's the peach (momotaro)
>Khu
Ah so it's fake? Thanks for the info anon
Sure honey, we're just speculating.
I just eatched the cutscene, the "demon" appears as first so its not part of okidogi scarf as many people think
That fricking back-tie on that guy is important.
The only character wearing a tie in SV is fricking Larry. That would be HILARIOUS asa twist that his grand Grand dad was ogerpon owner
Im pretty sure it is supposed to be hair as we see Ogerpon and FOREIGNER from behind in the scene IIRC.
Ah yeah. makes sense
>chin
>tie
american dad confirmed
That's both his hair and his back, you idiot.
GOOD MORNING DLC, I've got a feeling that it's gonna be a wonderful pay!
that doesn't rhyme. i like the spirit though.
Isn't that just Dogi's other fist?
the datamine has the full image of the 4th pokemon which the game cropped out
How has no one posted the full thing here yet?
It's literally the OP image but in monochrome.
I mean the full picture for this
That is the full picture, but it's assembled from separate assets.
even as you watch the video when they start to move out of the camera the 4th one moves away towards the top right where the dog moves to bottom right instead
I thought the 1 meant the Mythical in the new movie
8 Indigo Disk Mons
>Dipplin Evo
>Chimecho Evo
>Archaludon
>Raging Bolt
>Paradox Entei
>Iron Crown
>Paradox Terrakion
>Terapagos
Plus 1
>Momotaro
Let me believe
>Chimecho Evo
Lmao it's mightyena all over again
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT
does eviolite work on it now? if so its a sure fire way to know
Momotaro would be the eighth
The one is likely either a Mythical or something connected to an unrevealed concept
I wish I could this homosexual’s skull in. Seriously. What a fricking homosexual
Is that paradox glimmora?
This is probably when Glimmora's tera crystals connection comes in to play.
You are over thinking it. Glimmora probably just eat tera crystals or something like that. New peach mon does the same, and that’s why both are both poison type
Why isn't Ogerpon poison? Maybe it took the "good" crystal from Terapagos, that's why this purple thing wants to take it.
Presumably Glimmora mutates into this Pokémon because seed -> flower -> fruit
Peaches are unlewdable, sadly.
play Okami.
Wow, are you new to the internet?
they literally look like butts, moron
homosexual
TELL ME ABOUT PEACHMON
WHY DOES HE WANT THE MASKS
You do realize that's Okidogi's balled up right fist being held up over his head, right?
It isn’t. Read the tweet in the second post.
It's Khu so it is automatically fake, have fun when your chink is wrong and claims that the real thing is what he meant to say to cover his ass
Read the chain of tweets he’s responding to, dipshit.
i'm not convinced it's another pokémon either, but it looks nothing like his other hand
>it's just a fist
The person who colored in the art literally says it was it's own asset in the files separate from the other three morons
this isnt the full mon, likely just something to hint toward it
This fricker most likely flaked and ran like a pansy the second the ogre went on the rampage. There's plush-like doll of it at the market where you buy everything in town.
O shet
I was wondering what that “old ornament” was. That means it used to be celebrated like the others but was forgotten. Is this the thing possessing cuckran?
>Is this the thing possessing cuckran?
Nah that's just Pagos insanity like what happened to the professor.
What if momo was possessing the professor and it was the reason why the time machine was made?
what if terapagos isn't the pokemon granting wishes?
it's probably this thing. after all, terapagos definitely wasn't the one who gave the loyal three the toxic chains.
I am pretty sure they both grant wishes. Terapagos seems to be the source of Tera crystals, which not only power the time machine but also make the AI professor function.
if the thing is a mutated glimmora, then we just need to know the connection between terapagos, tera crystals, and glimmoras.
I wouldn't be surprised if terapagos is just the source of everything and a bunch of things tangentially related to it have wish-granting powers rubbed off on them
what if briar its actually dokutaro in disguise? that would explain her purple outfit
Dokutaro seems to be related to Glimmora, which is itself related to Tera Crystals, which come from Terapagos
So I'd say the more likely scenario is that Terapagos is the source of these wishing powers, and Dokutaro is a mutated Glimmora who somehow became able to use part of Terapagos' powers, allowing it to grant wishes as well (though probably on a smaller scale than Terapagos)
Wouldn't be the first legendary/mythical that was a mutation of a common Pokemon
Glimmora is also a poison-type. Just food for thought.
Glimmet's petals are made of "crystallized poison," and Glimmora's petals are explicitly related to Tera crystals.
There's a clear connection between Tera crystals and Poison.
>tera crystals poison the mind
>makes scientist go insane
>makes heath get amnesia and make schizo drawings
>generally responsible for all the bad things happening
seems about right
>The Loyal 3 were actually loyal the whole time, just to the Peach sacrificing themselves to buy it time to escape, making the name apt even if they were Loyal to a butthole.
Neat!
Nice, very interesting
So is this thing one of the 8 new mons in Indigo Disk, or is it the +1 mythical from the 7+8+1 riddle?
Riddle is bullshit just to get your attention, never trust Khu as a reliable info giver
Explain how did he leak blood moon Pokemon.
Feels like an odd choice to have a mon tied to the Loyal Three not be released in Teal Mask (unless it’s a Mythical that’ll be unceremoniously distributed at some point).
I guess it’s possible we’ll go back to Kitakami at some point in Indigo Dosk, though.
Khu, if you're here with us, I would like to say thank you for your services, sir.
disgusting rice loving chink is disgusting.
>he doesn't love rice
Overweight amerimutt detected
Hush, cink. And back into the cuckshed.
>sir
cringe chink. I feel embarassed for you. You should have never left plebbit.
What is it with Pokemon gays and always leaking everything months before release, jesus fricking christ, not even the Sonic fanbase is that autistic, can't you gays wait for the actual content to come out instead of leaking it all and ruining the surprise to everyone?
It's not a leak. This
is a scene from the legend in Teal Mask and they hid this creature there, but its whole image is visible in the graphic assets of the teal mask.
Cry more ya mark
Why are you gay ahora.
Let people speculate in peace? That’s the point of this fricking board
This. Frick this people and frick you, kid
.
The games themselves do it, why shouldn't we?
I mean, in this case the Peach Pokemon subtly appears in-game in the flashback, and the Loyal Three's categories are all "Retainer Pokemon." If they're all retainers, then they must have a lord. That's not a leak, it's foreshadowing
So this creature fulfilled their wishes but also put them in chains.
0 to 4 poison legendaries in 1 gen.
you could say…it went viral
We already had eternatus
Who?
>thing that looks related to glimmora, who is related to tera crystals, has the power to grant wishes
timetravelsisters...I don't feel so good
So the loyal three actually attacked ogerpon and her master because this thing ordered it, right? It must need crystal energy that it can't make itself, unlike the turtle.
There's an ornament... so clearly people knew about it in Kitakami at some point. Did it use its powers to make people forget about it?
The ornament is probably just foreshadowing
>So the loyal three actually attacked ogerpon and her master because this thing ordered it, right
They just wanted the masks.
Yes, but the masks have tera crystals in them.
Look at their descriptions in the dex. They are all called Retainer Pokémon. They worked FOR SOMEONE
https://twitter.com/Nintendokusou/status/1702770202570608913
Like this guy notes apparently the Ghost lantern at the Kitakami festival is the only unaccounted for type, so it's possible this Momotaro mon will be Poison/Ghost.
But momotaro will evolve right? Can’t be a peach the whole game
It's a mythical, so probably not.
GOD DAMNIT
It could have a form change like Hoppa though. If it’s somehow a counterpart to Terapagos it might even get its own Tera form.
>Its actually Nobunaga and Momotaro combined
Why does he hate Ogerpon so much.
Maybe he doesn't, he might just be interested in the tera shards in the mask. It might be somehow related to Glimmora which has a direct connection to tera crystals somehow
Here's my theory
>Mutated Glimmora like how Diancie is a mutated Carbink
>It's a wish granter similarly to Terapagos, but the wishes it grants poisons those who wish for them into bad motherfrickers.
>When Kieran wishes to be strong enough to beat you, it's the one that answers.
Cool theory, could be legit
>kieran has the evil glimmora wish demon as his ace
>protag has good terapagos wish god to beat him
kino
God if that happens it'll be so moronic.
So... is it just me or does that thing kind of remind you of a glimmora?
Peach pit, Peach Flower... Peach fruit?
Can i frick it?
>Unova and Paldea both have mystery areas in the middle of them that have weird shit happen in them
>Treasures are evil versions of the Genies
>DLC introduces a legendary trio with it's fourth member being a mythical
hmmm.......
are evil versions of the Genies
What?
The genies are the 4 benevolent animals, while the ruin legendaries are the 4 perils. In mythology they are counterparts of one another.
Aren’t the genies shown to be dickheads, mostly the first two? I don’t see the correlation you’re referring to
Design wise that's where their therian formes (loosely) draw inspiration
>azure dragon = thundurus
>vermilion bird = tornadus
>white tiger = landorus
>black tortoise = enamorus
Being one of those mythological concepts that have a million variations, and since legendary pokemon are rarely based on a single idea, they mixed a few elements
>sometimes the bird is explicitly a phoenix (or 2 phoenixes)
>the tiger is occasionally a qilin
>some later depictions of black tortoise have it accompanied by a snake, which is enamorus' tail/scarf
The group also has many different names
>four symbols
>four mythological creatures
>four guardians
>four auspicious beasts
Etc etc
you forgot to mention that the gems they have are all the correct color for the appropriate mythic animal for their therian form.
What do you guys think does the Roaring Moon cave have something to do with the 4 legendaries and the hidden treasure Terapagos?
If it's related to the story, and tying up all the lose ends of the time machine and AI professor jimbo jambo then it can't be a mythical Pokemon (i.e. limited time movie promotion distribution)
The main story's loose ends will be tied up by Terapagos.
Momomon will exist to explain the backstory of the Loyal Three, like how Hoopa explains the portals in ORAS.
Also why do people keep saying there will be a movie? I thought they stopped doing those because even Japanese children weren't watching them anymore?
Khu changed his twitter nickname into something that implies a movie
There ya go
What's the source on this?
The game files, as
shows the scene it is pulled from. It’s part of the art asserts that got data mined.
I understand that, but where's the source of the person datamining it? I've seen it posted her a dozen times but I can't find the actual source.
It came to me in a dream.
I believe the person who data mined the texture files originally was one of those twitter leakers, Matt, or Anubis or someone like that… Pearlenthusiast is the earliest I could find
I'm looking but I can't find this image anywhere. Was i fan drawn?
There's also this
which shows the creature in-game, or rather a plush of it
Is it a creature or an item though? If this is fanart then we don't know what the 'face' actually looks like.
The original image is
was just colored in purple, to make it look like the Toxic Chains, but both are the image taken directly from the games files, which shows a fraction of it peeking out from the top right corner.
Okay, where is the original from...The only place I've found it is a fan account that colored it.
if you want the original just open up the game files. the real proof is somewhere in the game, I don’t know how to do it. you don’t know how to do it. go ask a SV modder or something
There (You) go.
Thank you.
>the mon based off the Momotaro peach is teased by a store owner named Peachy
D E E P E S T L O R E
The toxic chains are a funny concept, I wonder how the original Pokémon looked like without them or the influence of momoet
Ok but what the frick is a momotaro
A boy who came out of a peach.
And what the frick does that have to do with Po-
>Dog, Pheasant, and Monkey
Oh
And ogre, yes.
Momotarou himself is the only one currently missing. At first I thought Kieran was supposed to be taking that role, since the signs have a human trainer alongside the Loyal Three, but now it looks like there is an unseen pokémon that is the source of the Toxic Chain.
Doesn't Momotaro get born from the peach so wouldn't that mean the peachmon has an alternate form where its humanoid?
Definitely possible.
I like this name but is anyone besides the Chinese reporting it?
Hold up.
Let me cook
Peach master gave Dogi, Dori, and Dipity the chains, which "stimulated them" and caused their wishes to come true. Dogi got muscular. Dori got big brain. Dipity got pretty
Kieran's a weak little baby b***h boy who wants to be stronger. Wants to be better than what he currently is.
Kieran gettin a chain
oh frick he's already got purple in his color scheme and everything
Aw hell naw toxic chain kieran
Literally just look it up. Boy born from peach, goes on journey with Dog, Pheasant, and Monkey, fells Oni, etc. etc. Pokemon's just doing a subversion of that were the Oni is the good guy and the three companions (and possibly Momotaro himself) are the troublemakers.
>possibly
It would take a Serbian israelite Double-bluff for a pokémon that's shaped like the Toxic Chain to be less evil than the Loyal Three.
We're all ignoring the important question
What homosexual pun name with the trio master have?
Okidogie = Okidokie
Munkidori = Hunkidori
Fezendipity = Serendipity
It'll be something like "Peachy" or "Peachy keen"
Its so dumb you know its already canon
Peachikeen? So stupid it just might work
I don't think they'll be that on the nose, because it is literally a phrase. The rest changed it, even if only a little bit.
PeachiKING
Bet
yup. that's the one. calling it now.
It could also use Momotaro in the name to make it super on the nose, tho can't think of anything as good as a pun on Peachy Keen to be honest
Peachora? Momora?
How do you even name glimora with peach momotaro?
Glimomora
Glimmomo?
Glimmotaro. Alternatively, if you want to use all 12 characters, Glimmomotaro.
Easy peasy peachy squeezy
Apparently some chinese users datamined the code name Dokutaro for the Momotaro mon
Why does this shitty generation has so much lore, not other generation was like this right?
>He havent heard about arceus lorebombs
project AZOTH had more in gen 6 and it all got dropped because Z was never made
Are the elite four in the blueberry academy related to the gym leaders of unova?
Probably not. None of them look remotely like the Unova leaders or the Unova E4
Yes.
One of them is literally named Drayton.
Yeah and his Japanese name is Kakitsubata. Whats your point? Localizers are pun happy and lazy
see
mmmm if we go for the japanese names, the white girl has the same theme as clay and the black girl has the same theme as lenora, the crispin guy could be the stration trio younger brother, but its hard to tell
Drayton and Drayden are both named after irises in Japanese as well.
Kieran is Momotaro. The roles are reversed here. He loved the ogre at first and now that he was rejected he hates MC/Ogrepon. He meets the Peach Mon and teams up with it to seek revenge.
What would be a bigger powermove to pull on Kieran?
Rolling up to Blueberry Academy with or WITHOUT Ogerpon in your party?
I say bring it with, with the Best Friends ribbon attached.
Don't forget the Partner mark.
>Kieran gets toxic chain'd
>he becomes strong, intelligent and beutiful
>when you defeat him in the last battle, the peach mon takes over him and a second battle occurs
>Kieran´s mon get some type of buff for the rematch like mother lusamine fight
I kinda doubt they go that far. We might get a cutscene when he reveals it but it probably won't be anything crazy. Budget is probably being saved for Terapogos shenanigans.
>>he becomes strong, intelligent and beutiful
Please be a tall, hot and handsome adult kieran
>We get to BBA
>Kieran has become the top trainer in the school >and its revealed he's the champion there
>He has a harem for some reason
>this outfit
>hair slicked back
>edgy phase
carmine was right, its just teens angst
Is It me or the purple ball looks sexy?
Wait wait, so
>Kieran's intense negativity resonates with the Tera Crystals in the Teal Mask
>The Tera Crystals inadvertently stimulate the nearby Toxic Chains
>The juiced-up Toxic Chains resurrect the Loyal Three
Oh shit, it makes sense.
>kieran's negative emotions fueled the loyal three's wish for revenge postmortem
so why didn't this guy save them from ogerpon?
>3 weak pathetic pokemon
>throw them a bone with a wish chain transforming them
>enslave them
>send them on a mission to get the tera masks
>they die
>lol whatever rip you slave losers, tera masks aint worth it
From the image in the OP this thing doesn't really seem to be a bad guy. It might have granted the Loyal Three's wishes and thus be their "master", but it's sad/worried expression makes me thing it opposed to them stealing the masks. It probably became unable to control the trio and their greed after they became smarter/stronger/prettier
Makes me think*
That would be an interesting angle to take. So far everything has been a subversion of the original Momotaro myth, but it wouldn't be too bizarre for GF to pull a double-subversion on us.
I don't think they will, I'm pretty confident Dokutaro or whatever it ends up being called will either be on Kieran's team or serve as an antagonist on its own, but having it actually be good would be a fun twist
>in the myth Momotaro was a good guy who was followed by a monkey, a dog and a pheasant, who were also good guys, and together they beat the evil ogre
>in pokémon Momotaro is a good guy who was abandoned by the evil monkey, dog and pheasant it helped, and those three were then beaten by the good ogre
Seems like a good dose of subversion for me
Momotaro got used for Japanese Imperial propaganda in not one but three separate wars.
The word translated Orichalcum for Koraidon also has Imperial japanese supremacy connections, due to some alternate history claims that make Ancient Aliens look reasonable (for more info look up the Takenouchi Documents)
And the Legend Arceus was about how the Imperial colonization of Hokaido and domination of the Ainu was good and equitable actually.
They're almost certainly going to double subvert Momotaro to make him the good guy again.
>And the Legend Arceus was about how the Imperial colonization of Hokaido and domination of the Ainu was good and equitable actually.
This was so funny. The Japanese did everything short of literal genocide to the Ainu but most Westerners have never heard of them so the blatant whitewashing went over everyone's heads.
I've never heard of the Takenouchi Documents but I'm definitely looking them up. I love schizohistory.
Did you know when Jesus kind of disappears in the bible between ages 13 and 33, that that's because he walked all the way to fricking japan and lived there for two decades learning about buddhism? APPARENTLY SO. Oh and then after he was resurrected he went and lived there again until he died a natural death, and is buried there. Yup.
Oh and that humanity was originally created in 5 colors one of which was blue (cambodians), japan is the literal center of the universe, and was prehistories' most advanced civilization, with airships they used to rule over all the other countries of the world, and magic metals and japanese as the universal tongue of all the earth.
And Lewis Mountain in Virginia isn't named after an american explorer named Lewis, no its name is derived from romanized japanese "Ryuzu" 'Dragon's Head', even though it's only been called that for like 300 years and the actually ancient native word for it is "Onteora" 'Hills of the Sky' in Munsee.
The guy that wrote this stuff tried to contact aliens on live TV. It is WILD. A bunch of people believe it though because it tells them stuff they want to feel. Same reason as the FFWPU. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of overlap in believers, kind of like archeology conspiracists and flat earthers.
>Did you know when Jesus kind of disappears in the bible between ages 13 and 33, that that's because he walked all the way to fricking japan and lived there for two decades learning about buddhism? APPARENTLY SO. Oh and then after he was resurrected he went and lived there again until he died a natural death, and is buried there. Yup.
That's dumb! Everyone knows that Jesus never died, his brother just took his place on the cross so he could move to Japan, marry a Japanese woman, and become a farmer.
> A bunch of people believe it
When I googled it, most of the results seem to be from believers, at least in English. A lot of them are wordpress sites, which seems to be a good marker for schizophrenia.
oh frick you're right i was misremembering it.
Wait, are you saying the Takenouchi Documents happen to line up exactly with the story told by that village that claims to have Jesus's real grave? Because that's what I was referencing.
maybe i'm conflating them? it's been a while since i've fully read either story.
Holy yikes, that's a whole boatload of issues
Could be Peachmon needed the masks for a serious reason, like it's in bad health and the masks could fix it, and the Loyal 3 went to take them to help their master in spite of its wishes since it doesn't want to see them hurt.
It's cliche enough that I could see it, or maybe this generation really is the one time we see Pokemon who are genuinely malicious buttholes.
Did the Loyal Three even do anything malicious aside from stealing the masks?
I mean, trespassing someone's home and robbing them is pretty malicious as is. Plus we don't know what happened to Ogerpon's friend.
its implied the broke into the cave where ogrepon and his trainer lived, killed him, then stole the masks. and ogrepon followed them them down and killed the 3 in a fit of rage
>Ogerpon
>His
It's a female only Pokemon….
>Kieran's yellow eyes match the Loyal Three and his purple hair also matches the toxic chains
Very subtle...
>sad/worried expression
Well, considering the way it's positioned in
and if this is the way it's supposed to look, then it might be upside down, and it might actually have a gleeful look to it. But that's just me shooting in the dark and that lady just has the thing upside-down because she doesn't know it's not supposed to be displayed like that.
Geeta is suspicious but I don't think she isn't human, considering that's just regular anime anatomy for you and Pokemon characters in newer gens have always been rather stylized.
Don't tell me there's going to be necromancy or something. Is Briar going to wish her dead grandpappy back to life or something???
>considering that's just regular anime anatomy for you and Pokemon characters in newer gens have always been rather stylized.
bruh. BRUH. I literally included a normal Pokémon character (one might even say the most normal pokemon character) IN THAT IMAGE, along with what a version of her edited to have what a normal pokemon character anime proportions would look like for side by side comparison.
You really gonna stand here and tell me the edit on the right looks identical to you to the original?
pokémon characters have very different designs in the same generation. Take Iono for example, with those shark teeth. I agree that there's something off about Geeta, but i think she's almost surely human
>Momotaro-kun grants the Loyal Three’s wishes
>gets stuck with a band of arrogant buttholes
>eventually they frick off and get themselves killed
>can finally live in peace
>centuries later a kid’s teenage angst revives them
>have to deal with their shit again
Momotaro-kun has to be fricking livid
I like the idea that it's not intentionally evil, it's just that the wishes it grants corrupt whoever it grants them to. Like the Loyal Three or Kieran.
Like a budget version of Terapagos.
>kieran spends his whole life defending the ogre and saying it's not all bad
>becomes the very definition of it's sworn enemy
pottery...
I don't know if terapagos granted desires can be considered good since those involved usually die
Look, if a raging Grass-type charged me and managed to insta-kill my three Poison-type lackeys, I'd bail too
Punished Kieran arc
Ok but what about the Paradox trio fusions? Where do they fit into all of this?
They don't. Those are "what if" illustrations.
I dunno, it seems kind of weird that their parts match near-perfectly with the paradox trio members revealed thus far. Either it's just my schizophrenia acting up or there's something more to it.
What do you mean?
The past fusion has Wake's mane and Bolt's legs
Future fusion has Crown's torso and Leaves' tail
And why is that surprising? Don't tell me you're still a timetroony after Teal Mask.
>bolt's legs
it has raikou's legs
And the past fusion also has the lower part of Entei's facial crest and its back plates, while the past one has Terrakion's horns. They're fusions of the legendary beasts and the musketeer trio, we know this. They look suspiciously similar to the four Paradoxes we've gotten from those trios so far because they're based on the same Pokemon, and probably because those drawings were the in-universe inspiration for the legendary Paradoxes. I think you're just picking up on what the rest of us are already theorizing
Those are just imaginary pokemon. The professor saw them and recognized that, by coincidence, they look like the Beasts/Swords, and since the professor believed everything Heath said was true, the professor assumed this was some coded message and the REAL pokemon that actually exist must be Paradox versions of the Beasts/Swords, so the "time machine" made that happen.
It's like how schizos who think the Bible is literal truth will go on and on about how Leviathan and Behemoth are actually dinosaurs.
It's more likely that Sada and Turo based their image of the paradox beasts/swords on their depiction in the occulture magazines.
There are 3 occulture editions missing from each versions of the game and coincidentally the beasts and swords are made up of three members each.
It's clear that the missing occulture articles will be in Blueberry academy during part 2 of the dlc which is when we will learn the truth about paradox pokemon.
Yeah, it could be the schizos who recognized the similarities to the Beasts/Swords were writing for Occulture.
If those missing issues are in the DLC, I hope we also get the issues covering the Paradoxes from the other game, as well as the ones about the Raidons. The pokedex confirms these exist.
The Paradox pokémon are based on the drawing, not the other way around.
It's pretty clearly stated that the artist just dreamt them up. The running theory right now is that the artist imagining them led to Terapagos creating Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, Iron Leaves, Iron Crown, and probably Paradoxes of Entei and Terrakion too, based on said imaginary creatures
once all the paradox legendaries are revealed glimmotaro will chain the trios together to fuse them
TRIPLE fusion now? Wasn't Kyurem and Necrozma bad enough?
if we're going back to unova we're gonna have to do a kyurem original dragon triple fusion eventually
I normally hate fusion on principle, but I have to admit, I would love to finally see the original dragon. I know everyone's already said it, but it really would make a good premise for a Legends game
I honestly hate that less out of all fusions, because it's not actually a fusion of two or more pokemon. it's one pokemon being made whole and right again.
I feel like they will have the ability to fuse after you encounter all three of them. And that would be the proof that the Paradox Pokemon aren't really past/future Pokemon since it's confirmed to be an imaginary sketch
>Terapagos makes pokemon off of the imagination, going by this sketch
>Dokutaro granted the wishes of the loyal three with the toxic chain
>Dokutaro and the trio were after the tera masks and their crystals
>Glimmora and Dokutaro look similar and presumably share poison typing
>Glimmora itself may be made of tera crystals, going off of its dex entry, the fact that you use its petals to craft tera blast tms, and its spawn locations
Dokutaro being an “advanced” Glimmora that tapped into the wish granting power of the crystals would be neat.
Yeah it could end up being a Diance situation
Final form Kieran will don the toxic chain as a headband
mmmmm, yup. yup.
If he's not tying his hair here that's probably what's happening here
Has anyone actually shown what he looks like with his hair tied up? he physically does it.
That's the last you see of him, probably gonna have to wait for the next dlc
Or you know, take the camera and turn it around with hax
They probably didn't change the model and just used the camera angle so it looks like he's doing it up, so it wouldn't matter
Lousy trio was controlled by paldea king who had unhealty treasure colecting problem. Thats why lousy trio are called Retainer Pokémon.
So the peach mon was the paldean king?
What if... Paldea. King was controled by momo?
What if Momotaro did 9/11?
Zombies
What the frick is going on in this game
i have never this invested in a pokemon story before, its cool, now more that the timetravel gays are MIA
My guess is Dokutaro (peach pokemon) can make the chains and slap them onto people/pokemon to control them. Wouldn't be the first time they used this type of trope.
>dokutaro
>the girl is named taro
So lacey is going to be the peach pokemon?
It's possible. Or she's the one who gave it to Kieran, or whatever ends up going on there. The website says it's specifically her that gives us our introductory tour of BB Academy, so they're clearly going to have us meet her early on, which is usually a sign that a character will have a more important role
I think Kieran found Dokutaro after Teal Mask and secretly brought it to BB Academy, and the zombies are people who have been enslaved by it.
Actual walking (human) corpses seem out of the question for this series, so "zombie" is likely being used in the original sense of a mindless slave.
Yeah Kieran is a reverse Momotaro for sure.
Kieran looks to be the big bad.
Why She looks so stressed?
what does khu mean by this
Peach is love
Probably one of those characters resembles that character. Not that we would know until the DLC releases
That's Giselle a character from a manga/anime called "Bleach" She has the Power of turning people into "zombies" under her control
So whatever Is going on it's going in DLC2 to be some mental control and turning people into mindless zombies under some Pokemon control
Is it true she has a penis?
Yeah
mhm
sounds like yugioh gx society of light bs
didn't we already do that with nihilego?
I mean nihilego was a parasite-mind control while the probably new mon maybe can control multiple individuals at once with his toxic-chain Power? Just a theory but still somewhat different
The creator stated that the character is a man
Lacey is a guy
Will the loyal three get an unchained form?
Alright boys, here's my schizo chart.
What does it all mean and what am I missing?
>schizo chart
yes it is
keep it up anon, you are onto something.
you had me until you spun back into XY's "lore", let sleeping dogs lie.
Dokutaro is the shadow ruler of paldea, all that shit of wanting to investigate area zero was caused by him to tap into terapago full wishmaker powers and he sealed the ruin pokemon because they tried to stop him
They were in Kitakami you fricking mongoloid.
The game tells you that the loyal three came from far away
Oh shit I didn't realize Paldea was far away land.
The game makes a very big deal about how far away Kitakami is from Paldea.
Did you even play it?
Kitakami is PokeJapan. Paldea is PokeSpain. What part am I misunderstanding? Or are you upset that I'm not jumping to conclusions like you are? Unova is PokeNewYork where Kieran is with Dokutaro.
>Kitakami is PokeJapan. Paldea is PokeSpain.
In other words, Paldea is a far away land.
Tell me again how the mexican aliens are real.
>non-sequitor
Wow, you sure showed me!
>picks and choose what part of my post to respond to
>immediately turns into a debatelord
wow you're the same homosexual that's on here every thread. do you not have anything better to do?
fair enough but we still dont have any reason to believe the loyal three came from paldea
being "far away" is not enough information to properly justify it
i think its a good possibility considering Dokutaro shares so many similarities to Glimmora, but we still don't have enough information to assume the three are Paldean Pokemon
The ancient king of Paldea was known to be obsessed with collecting treasure, which could provide an explanation for the Loyal Three's mask theft.
Dokutaru seems to be connected to Glimmora, which is directly connected to Area Zero, but that's still speculation.
There is definitely no proof, but it's certainly a possibility.
My schizo theory is this:
>Dokutaro cohabited with terapagos in area zero in the past
>Got exiled of the place but gained the power to control/grant wishes with the toxic chain
>Possesed the paldea king and enslaved the loyal three
>sent the loyal three to collect the masks but they got killed
>gave life to the treasue of ruin thanks to the negative emotions of the treasures
>gets betrayed by them and imprisioned them, but this got him to weak to continued controling the paldea king
>go into hidding until heath's time and began manipulating his family to investigate area zero again
>now is also manipulating kieran also to further his agenda
Homie how long do you expect the DLC to be to cover everything? It's gonna be Pheramosa part 2 then you move on to Area Zero.
Thats just a two minute backstory
convenient lore dumps and explanations in the blueberry academy library
The Paradox book is censored and you expect a lore dump on the other side of the world?
>The Paradox book is censored
Did you play the game?
Yes I did. Did you know Briar has the original one? Did you know that every single public copy is censored? Did you know that? Did you play the game?
Briar, who teaches at Blueberry Academy, has access to the uncensored version of a censored book.
How exactly does this rule out the BB library having info that the Paldean library doesn't?
How convenient that Briar has all that information about Terapogos and its cohabitation when she's trying to prove Terapogos exists in the first place. How convenient Briar made sure none of that information made it to Paldea in support of her ancestor Heath that people have been questioning and doubting for hundreds of years.
She is being controlled by dokutaro, her jacket is the toxic chain
Go to bed sleepy boy you've done too much speculating today.
Because she inherited it from it being the original book that Heath wrote with his own two hands?
I doubt they'll actually do it, but it would be cool if they did manage to tie the ruin legendaries back into the main plot like that
>AZ
>Area Zero
>floette encounters
WAIT! WAIT! IM NOT MENTALLY PREPRARED
>Area Zero = AZ
>Floette Encounters
>Diancie/Carbink are made of crystal
>Carbink appear right under the Crystal Pool in Kitakami
>Mega Diancie has crystals on the bottom that look extremely similar to Terapagos' Crystals
WHAT THE FRICK DOES IT MEAN
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
no note about how glimmora in laser shooting mode looks like the kalosian ultimatr weapon primed to fire?
wait a fricking second
>Born from the high temperatures and pressures deep underground, [Carbink] defends itself by firing beams from the israeliteel part of its body.
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
That reminds me that Carbink was the only Pokemon that was initially in SV without a dex entry. I think it's a guarantee that it has some greater purpose because of that.
carbink was transfer only, but it was the only transfer only that wasnt a hisuian pokemon, starter, or a legend/mythical
it just kinda stuck out like a sore thumb, but at the time i figured they brought it back only cause they bothered to do diancie this time and the autist at game freak doesnt want them separated
It could be, but Carbink was around in SM and the Crown Tundra without Diancie. Carbink can stand in its own right at least.
i meant more so that diancie existed alongside carbink, not that diancie was actually easily obtainable
both in SM and SWSH you could transfer one in, so they both exist simultaneously
i also checked and diancie was indeed added to SWSH with the crown tundra so at no point did they exist without the other
hell maybe im just being autistic but it does seem deliberate
Okay I get what you mean now & forgot it was in SwSh. Can't really say definitively until more generations establish a pattern, but I think it adds up nicely with theory at least.
Don't forget this. Geeta's definitely not human, and explicitly tied to all this Area Zero stuff.
Nothing in the game suggests Geeta is non-human. I'm pretty sure she is just a bad character design.
I would add fact that mega stones ARE litteraly dream stones as the mega designs usually show how pokemon wanted to be.
Few examples:
Kanga kid grows strong
Pinsir can fly
Lucario Aura power has expanded
Sableye just get FRICKING HUGE gem
Charizard becomes agile and dragon
Metwo becomes even stronger
glalie has its jaw explode off
aerodactyl is in extreme pain form all the rocks jutting out of its skin.
slowbro is eaten by the shellder to the point it can no longer move
Aerodactyl is in pain due to the excess of power from the mega evolution process rather than the rocks.
Slowbro is actually comfortable in the Shelder shell.
Glalie is kinda fricked though.
Not true. Megas exaggerate a single trait to an extreme degree. It's why most of them are kind of goofy looking, and why the pokedex entries keep mentioning how painful they are.
>Megas exaggerate a single trait to an extreme degree.
Like the poison chains?
Yes.
>how painful they are
I can only find one reference to it being painful and that's for Aerodactyl, I'm not sure what you're going off of.
I sort of misremembered. They don't all reference pain, but most make it clear there is a huge drawback to unleashing so much power:
>Gengar will attack anyone, even its own trainer
>Kangaskhan's child is only good at fighting, and she worries about its future
>Alakazam's muscles have atrophied to uselessness
>Pinsir literally can't stop looking for a fight
>Gyarados is too moronic to think about anything but destruction
>Aerodactyl is in pain
>Scizor will literally MELT if it stays mega evolved for too long.
>Heracross's muscles are all sore
>Houndoom is being burned alive from inside and is in pain
>Tyranitar's body split apart and only its destructive instincts keep it moving
>Manectric is literally overflowing with power and can't keep it contained
>Banette can't stop itself from cursing its own trainer
>Absol hates being in a combat form
>Garchomp's wings literally melted and it's super pissed off about this
>Lucario can't think about anything but combat
>Sableye has a graphic description of the gemstone "ripping through its skin," plus it's too heavy for Sableye to move
>Glalie's jaw is dislocated and it can't eat
>Salamence may attack its own trainer
>Metagross is now incredibly cruel and a sore loser
A few of them have nothing negative, but there's a running theme that mega evolution is incredibly unpleasant for most Pokemon, which is probably why it requires a strong bond with its trainer: they would otherwise refuse to put themselves through such an experience.
They aren't dreams they are a radiated stone as far as we know
Also mega aerodactyl is true aerodactyl according to the Pokémon company, the fossil revival procedure nerfed him hard apparently
Corless will be back and he will bring megas.
>Ultimate Weapon fired 3000 years ago against both sides in the Kalosian war
>shit ton of wars between the irl counterparts of Kalos and Paldea as well as being right next to each other
>massive fricking crater in the middle of paldea is confirmed to be there at least 2000 years ago
you thinkin what I'm thinkin?
the creater of paldea is much older though, at 1 million years. 2000 years ago is when the Paldean Empire was born
Add
>geeta and glimmora relations
>glimmora looks like AZ cannon opened
God damn, you people will look at anything other than the in game lore.
So is Dokutaro the 8th Indigo Disk mon or a mythical that's the 201st mon in the Kitakami dex?
I just realized that if kieran is the champion in the bb academy then is going to be the same thing that jaden vs evil jesse in yugioh gx
Loyal Three = Evil version of Swords of Justice
Ruin Quad = Evil version of Kami Quad
Momotaro = Evil Keldeo
Where do the beasts fit in?
No idea. I made the comparison by considering that the Ruins are based on Four Perils, which are the opposite of the Sacred Beasts that the Kamis are inspired by.
Also, the Loyal Three are thieves mistaken and revered by humans as heroes while the Swords are actual heroes that came to conflict with humans.
Last one, I think if Momotaro is the mastermind that controls the Loyal Three, it would be a neat contrast to Keldeo being a rookie who was trained and groomed by the Swords of Justice.
I think the overall theme here is opposites.
Hey, remember what magical place was in the exact center of Unova just like Area Zero?
>Entralink allows you to get Pokemon from Dream World
>Terapagos' powers are related to imagination
Bros...
>type gems from Unova grant a temporary boost to any type
>almost like an imperfect version of tera
What does it mean?
>Terapagas lives around Unova
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
All this thread is being moronic
If it’s a MYTHICAL it will get its own movie. It won’t appear in the next dlc
there are no movies since 2019, dumbass.
Zarude was added in the SwSh DLC, dumbass
there’s no way Peachy is gonna be saved until Gen 10
Yes but he wasn’t important for the story. He got a separate explanation in a movie like all mythicals
They will annouce the movie for next year on winter
LIKO MOBVIE!?
difference is that unlike Zarude or Zeraora, Peachy was teased in the base game in important story cutscenes.
It's fricking homie NEBBY
If Dokutaro is meant to be a mythical, why would it have much of anything to do in the story?