Pyro needs a nerf. There is no reason for a class to walk into a room holding mouse 1 and win a 6v1 just because he walks away right afterwards.
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Pyro needs a nerf.
Pyro needs a nerf. There is no reason for a class to walk into a room holding mouse 1 and win a 6v1 just because he walks away right afterwards.
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Pyro trannies and furries will seethe at this thread
>all that seething about pyro
I love phlogging homosexuals like you
Ahem.
unironically a good weapon yet nobody use it because the average pyro main can't aim
>unironically a good weapon it just needs 100% accuracy at all times to match the DPS of stock
It's actually more damage than stock now.
>
I cannot think of a game that makes me more miserable, depressed, and hopeless than TF2. Everything about this game and every single one of my interactions with the game since it came out over 15 fricking years ago has been nothing but negative. I can seriously count the amount of fun times I've had with this game on one hand.
>Banned from most community servers due to item names like "e-girl Penetrator" on a Strange Huntsman
>Taunt kill someone with the Huntsman, they just ignore the stun and crit kill me anyways
>Try to play normal Sniper, the entire enemy team decides to drop everything and zero in on my location to kill me
>Soldier having zero fricking counter, just shoots vaguely in your direction and kills you because what's aiming?
>Pyro taking no skill, you literally just walk forward and press m1
>All of the maps and game modes I like are dead
>Ask for advice on how to improve, get told to MGE, discover after a terrible 10 hours that this is worthless because dying 0:20 over and over and over doesn't help in any way
>Ask for advice and get told to use tr_walkway, only to find out that none of the buttons in the spawn room ever work, regardless of the version of the map I use, resulting in me only being able to shoot at bots that walk forward and do nothing else, which isn't helpful
>Paid for a "Rent-a-Medic" service because my friends never play with me, ended up getting refunded because even with a Medic glued to my ass, God still won't let me play the game
>Cheaters out the ass since I'm basically stuck in Casual
>99% of halfway nice items are gonna cost you a metric frickton of money because...?
>Try to play Heavy, get deleted by Snipers and Soldiers that just camp behind cover and pelt you with rockets only to jump away once you get close
>Dancing with a group on 2fort, butthole Spy comes by, kills ONLY ME, and walks off
>People votekicking me because of my Steam profile, and it succeeding because people have been conditioned to f1 first, ask questions later
it is, but missing a single shot with it is a fricking death sentence
i already have my trusty shotgun for that kind of gameplay and the lack of impact on ragdolls from the dragons fury just makes that flamethrower feel really unsatisfying
yeah im autistic
no one uses it because it was bugged for several years, had less range and dogshit hit detection
Nobody uses it because it's bad. It has several big weaknesses stock does not and the only upside is slightly higher damage if you hit every shot at max fire rate (with significantly decreased damage if you don't)
This seems biased and doesn't really touch on any of the good reasons to use Dragon's Fury.
>you will win every pyro duel unless you miss twice
>range is almost double the flamethrower with zero falloff
>you don't have to perfectly track the enemy for 8 consecutive seconds to deal respectable damage
>you can corner peak just like Soldier when firing rockets at sentries etc
>Scorch Shot leaves them absolutely helpless from getting hit by your first Fury shot
>Fury can juggle enemies just like rockets and grenades
>the projectile pierces every enemy and building
>the projectile doesn't bend near walls or suffer from the pyro damage bug
>due to flamethrower suffering from damage bug, Fury actually ends up dealing significantly more damage overall
Sure the airblast sucks and if you have zero gamesense you can no longer spycheck, but that's a small price to pay for all the other benefits this thing has
About the building aspect. Thanks to each burst of flame doing 75 damage to any building and piercing through whatever is behind it, the Dragon's Fury is fantastic at killing sentry nests, providing you can get close.
>range is almost double the flamethrower with zero falloff
Dragon Fury shares the same falloff as stock flamethrower.
The real issues with it is that it accidentally shoots 1000 copies of the particle instead of 10 like intended lagging the shit out of everyone, minor issue is there is no Strange variant due to how they implemented the weapon skin it needs a specific design which only the stock and Dragonslayer cover (which can't be found in Strange quality).
dragon's fury is terrible for spy checking
I only dislike this, because it's basically the only viable primary after the flamethrower got the frick nerfed out of it.
Well, that and the backburner since Crit flames completely sidestep the broken "Rebalancing"
There is nothing more satisfying than winning a pyro duel with this joke of a take on a classic weapon.
needs a buff, should literally be the case of direct upgrade if you're not an idiot.
It kinda is, for now.
If Valve fixes the flamethrower it won't be.
it will never get its upgrades in mvm back
No its not scouts should not be able to survive if they get hit twice with it and ive had plenty of situations where ive hit scouts 2 times and they're alive long enough to still kill me, it lacks the power needed to be a main projectile based weapon.
The problem with the Fury is that it's a shitty imitation of the og flamethrower, which is really just the stock flamethrower but it looks bigger and moves a bit faster
why do dragons fury gays defend it so vehemently? i only see its use by midwit pyros who think they're not like the other w+m1s and end up shitting on them because they chose an objectively worse primary
sunk cost fallacy for all the time they've spent on such a shit fricking class
time spent using the worst primary of a shit class no less
You can remove Pyro and Sniper from the game and nothing would change
Chockes are death traps anyway and getting killed because you stepped in a sightline of a homosexual 50 million km away isn't fun nor fair
Pyro is a class for the mentally ill and does not fit the general gameplay loop of slow firing, high damage classes. Spychecking can be done easily and quickly by everybody else
TLDR: Total Pyrotroony and Snipergay death
>You can remove Pyro and Sniper from the game and nothing would change
Doesn't that mean that they don't effect the game negatively either?
Why be upset at two classes that have little impact?
He's saying they don't contribute to a meaningful meta, they're just annoying and not fun to play. It all comes down to Heavy, Soldier, Demo, Medic, and Engi
Because he's a moron baby and gets angry about getting killed by the "low importance" classes on both ends of the spectrum.
Kunai spies are rubbing their hands as you speak
Spy is without question the most usless and unimportant class, even with the OP Kunai.
I cannot fathom how he went from classic to 2. So much is wrong with him in his 2 iteration. I swear valve were just bathing in mud and throwing darts at the wall when making tf2.
What could he do in classic that made hi,m better?
I think the biggest flaw with Spy is his one utility weapon, the sapper, is supper class dependent on the on the nemy team and in itself not super great to boot. It's sad how they made the sapper a weapon slot that could have more potential weapons but never bother to give him more unlocks that gave him more of a general use.
He was better because he had frag grenades, gas grenades, a shotgun, the old tranq dart gun, AND A FRICKING NAILGUN (much better than the trash syringe gun)
Also he had dead ringer, but it worked differently, it was more of a crawl through the trenches tool than anything.
No invisibility actually made him fun to play with and against.
You know what fricking hurts
Spy already had a sapper in classic in the form of grenades since he could just chuck them while disguised which made him a great counter to sentries anyways, but not in a cheap and unfun to fight way like sappers.
oh, so that's what he did in Meet the Spy
spy could become invisible depending of the server, most servers used the disguise only and the invisible thing was used more as a modded setting, this is the inspiration for the spy using both on fortress forever and after that in tf2.
That's fine
By the way nice dead ringer
after youve scrubbed all the snipers from existence then we can talk about pyro
let's just get rid of all the classes until there is only scout. Then we give him access to all weapons and then just like that, it will be Quake.
Scout has like zero weakness aside from that stupid bullshit Engineer, what the frick are they smoking to make a class completely invincible against another?
I honestly find it amazing how people back in 2007 went "Yep, this is better than team fortress classic". Frick off you boiled eggs, just because grenade spam is gone doesn't mean the game is better as a whole. I would take grenades (albeit with no cooking, just instant throwing) over critical hits of any kind.
*muffled, riotous laughter continues*
>just want to play pybro protecting engi nests
>it's another team devoid of any medic or offensive class like demo soldier or heavy to occupy the front line
>4 snipers 4 spies
THE PAIN
Sneed harder spy cucks.
just dont get close to him
Pyro gays spotted. Same 3 arguments. "He's the weakest class. You are just bad. Just stop getting close."
>The only class that needed multiple dedicated updates
>The only class that has the most unique weapons, making him the most versatile because ?????
>The only class capable of wiping out a team by just holding down a button
>every single person in this video besides the Heavy refuses to shoot the pyro
>every single one chooses to shoot at the group of players over the target right next to them, and killing them
>dustbowl clip
i hate pyros too but come on, you're showcasing a braindead class on a map filled with some of the most braindead people on the planet
pyrochads can't stop winning
homosexuals will keep on seething uncontrollably
pyro is a homosexualry class
>t.sc**t main
you get fricked by scouts lmao
99% of scouts are dogshit and walk right into certain death
"pyrochads cant stop winning" and the best weapon that came out of jungle inferno was for the heavy
lol,
lmao
i feel kinda bad for pyros though because everytime they get something that actually lets them be a threat it gets nerfed to shit
but i also dont because puff n sting was moronic
i love the backburner and stock shotgun so i don't care about new weapons
wow those guys really suck
pyro remains one of the weakest classes in the game
nerf (rebalance) engineer, engie stacking on certain maps is just not fair if they know what they're doing and have the Rescue Ranger.
nerf Sniper
buff Spy
buff Heavy
I'd love a rebalance of Medic's ubercharge mechanics to make it less pivotal especially in organized play, but idk how you would even start changing that.
I cannot think of a game that makes me more miserable, depressed, and hopeless than TF2. Everything about this game and every single one of my interactions with the game since it came out over 15 fricking years ago has been nothing but negative. I can seriously count the amount of fun times I've had with this game on one hand.
>Banned from most community servers due to item names like "e-girl Penetrator" on a Strange Huntsman
>Taunt kill someone with the Huntsman, they just ignore the stun and crit kill me anyways
>Try to play normal Sniper, the entire enemy team decides to drop everything and zero in on my location to kill me
>Soldier having zero fricking counter, just shoots vaguely in your direction and kills you because what's aiming?
>Pyro taking no skill, you literally just walk forward and press m1
>All of the maps and game modes I like are dead
>Ask for advice on how to improve, get told to MGE, discover after a terrible 10 hours that this is worthless because dying 0:20 over and over and over doesn't help in any way
>Ask for advice and get told to use tr_walkway, only to find out that none of the buttons in the spawn room ever work, regardless of the version of the map I use, resulting in me only being able to shoot at bots that walk forward and do nothing else, which isn't helpful
>Paid for a "Rent-a-Medic" service because my friends never play with me, ended up getting refunded because even with a Medic glued to my ass, God still won't let me play the game
>Cheaters out the ass since I'm basically stuck in Casual
>99% of halfway nice items are gonna cost you a metric frickton of money because...?
>Try to play Heavy, get deleted by Snipers and Soldiers that just camp behind cover and pelt you with rockets only to jump away once you get close
>Dancing with a group on 2fort, butthole Spy comes by, kills ONLY ME, and walks off
>People votekicking me because of my Steam profile, and it succeeding because people have been conditioned to f1 first, ask questions later
>people have been conditioned to f1 first, ask questions later
kicking someone makes them feel powerful. there are no questions only blood third.
from most community servers due to item names like "e-girl Penetrator" on a Strange Huntsman
pedophiles will never be welcomed anywhere, have a nice day you fricking degenerate. if you're so porn addicted you're compelled to display your fetishes on fricking TF2 items you deserve to be ostracized.
not reading the rest of your post, kys.
You sound like the biggest homosexual that's ever lived. Half your problems are of your own making and the other half are due to being bad.
most embarrassing Ganker post ever made
>never once considered removing the shitty banbait names (plural) and only gets upset after being banned from every single community server
>insufferable enough to actually be willing to spend money on a medic healbot
>people will start focusing/kicking you after a quick glance at your profile
one can only imagine what that steam profile looks like
you can't expect pedos to have self-critical thoughts
If I have any advice it's to play team fortress 2 classic or hell just the original quake fortress or gold source classic. I'm not joking. I know quake fortress is dead, but who knows, you might just witness a miracle.
You need to find an MMO and ERP
Wait, why have you played it for 15 years and spent money on custom item names if you never had fun playing it
>Try to play normal Sniper, the entire enemy team decides to drop everything and zero in on my location to kill me
this always happens to me when I play spy. 3 people go scout and do NOTHING but look for me. My team wins the objective but I can't play. Then when I look at spies on youtube they're getting backstabs in broad daylight when the victim's teammates see it and just walk by to get matador stabbed.
>I put names on my items to ban bait and cry when I get banned
>I play Sniper and get mogged because I can't position
>I can't counter Soldier dispite me playing for 15 years
>I can't even counter Pyro dispite me playing for 15 years
>Actually paid for a pocket Medic because I suck that bad
>I die as Heavy because I stand in the open down a sightline like a fricking idiot
>People find my steam profile so off putting that it has caused me to consistantly get kicked
I must ask what the frick is on your Steam profile if people are kicking you from games over it? Because I've seen some cringe and degen Steam profiles and those users get by fine... what the frick is on yours?
I feel bad for you for still playing tf2.
This game is filled with homosexuals, furgays, trannies, tryhards, silent cheaters, basically all kinds of cancer.
Just leave the game for good, it is honestly not fun anymore.
>BUT I NEED TO PLAY TEAM FORTRESS OR I WILL DIE
download tf2 classic for a little less cancer tf2 but I highly suggest just leaving troony fortress community entirely.
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Thank you Artifact-Schizo, you never fail to make me laugh.
>the moron who spams this artifact shit is a reddit-using fortnite-playing zoomer gay
https://www.reddit.com/r/csgo/comments/u6ylmc/okay_valve_i_need_an_explanation/i5cg0kt/
How did we let these people invade our home?
pyro doesn't need a nerf, but the phlog and fire gun do
Medic needs a nerf. They can heal and uber each other and destroy the other team.
They are also the homosexuals crying that sniper is OP because they fricking suck at the game.
No one would fricking miss this shit and their moronic players.
Touch healthpack
Have Medic
WHY IS HIS EAR ON HIS NECK
I can't remember if he was the only character from this show who was drawn like that.
he wasn't the artist is a hack
Nice projection bro.
Pyro has the most strategies out of any class, when you say "lol you just hold W+M1 you expose yourself as a moron.
See a Scout? Trap him in a corner with airblast. See a Soldier? Reflect his rockets. See another Pyro? Extinguish teammates, crit him with a flarepunch. See a Demoman? Destroy his stickies with the Detonator.
As for Soldier...
See a Scout? Click on his feet. See another Soldier? Click on his feet. See a Pyro? Click on his feet. See a Demoman? Click on his feet? Heavy? Sniper? Spy? Click. On. Feet.
>being surprised when the game that caters to the lowest common denominator is braindead easy to play
lol
TF2 is dead, it's time to move on to the superior multiplayer Valve shooter AKA Left 4 Dead 2
>Fully mod supported with a large amount to choose from
>Consistent playerbase that isn't filled with bots
>No israelite cosmetics, if you want to change the appearance of someone you download a mod, no transactions required
>A well programmed game director ensures that almost every game you play is different than the last, promoting replayability
>even if you get bored of playing the same campaign maps all the time, there are plenty of great custom maps to choose from
>has one of the most advanced gore systems in a vidya
>Versus still makes homosexuals and shitters seethe to this day
>Pyro mains: Sniper shouldn't exist in a game made for close range, just be mindful of the sightlines is not an excuse!
>Also Pyro mains: Of course its okay for my class to completely control your movement in close range with a simple mouse click, just be mindful of how close you are.
Worst class main by far, not to mention their fur-homosexualry.
Airblast was literally added to balance blast jumping in community maps with way too much vertical space.
Fricking cry about the fact that you can't just no-clip everywhere unabated.
*airblasts you off a cliff*
Oopsie woopsie UwU
Love somebody did a video about removing sniper from the game and nothing changed.
Him and Spy are in the same boat of butt fricking uselessness.
Medic on the other hand would be a game changer. But frick ubers, they're just a last ditch effort designed by incompetent devs. Also why the frick did Valve take away medic's aura healing from quake fortress? why is a dispenser better at healing than a medic? frick you gaben you fricking ape fricker
You could do the same with half the classes.
Yeah it really just comes down to Heavy, Soldier, Demo, Medic, and maybe Engineer. Almost like this game was built out of an amateurish mod from the 90's or something...
I'd argue for these classes being removed would change the game
>Spy: No more paranoia, no much more incentive for callouts other than flanks and roamers
>Medic: No uber and no on demand heals except for engies would make players more hesitant to perform certain engagements
>Engineer: Defense is to be shifted more to Heavy and Demo, scouts would be more free to flank
The rest would be more minor changes (Soldier gone = Demo being the one to take on bombing duties and vice versa) but these main ones I would feel would be the kicker.
>The class whose main damage output is bugged should be nerfed
moron
>tfw shotgun pyro is more consistent damage
Yeah that's just scout, the skinny pyro
I love since watching this video I just waggle like a fricking spastic moron and win 95% of pyro duels
Imagine the rage if this bug got fixed, Pyro's damage would double overnight
Isn't that just barely over pre "balance" normal because afterburn doesn't hit while people are in direct flames?
in casual matches where no one is tryharding*
Meanwhile the moment any other class decides to try, the pyro is shut down. Sniper on the other hand can instantly kill you even if you perform a perfect multi-rocket jump strafe across the map.
>this is what kills you
I wish valve actually tried to keep Pyro's old identity intact instead of raping him in tf2. I miss bombarding people as him, oh, and his incendiary grenade was good too.
>walk into a room holding mouse 1 and win a 6v1
You are objectively bad. Flamethrower has less close-range DPS than literally every other class and has the range of an Eyelander.
I really hope the summer update brings out the final chapter of the comic series. It's just embarrassing for valve to leave it like that. But no of course meet your match and jungle inferno was valve's cum and dump run.
I get technically it ended on a cliffhanger, but sincere question what else would you want out of a new comic?
child possession and femdom of big Australia man
remove pyro
remove sniper
remove medic
remove spy
remove engineer
remove demoman
Team Fortress 2 should only have 3 classes defined by their speeds because I'm a homosexual
scout
soldier
heavy
>Heavy
Scouts will eat him alive, might as well make him a civilian
The first 3 class of Team Fortress were Soldier(slow speed), Scout(fast speed) and Sniper(medium speed).
How the frick is soldier medium/slow? Rocket jump spamming is literally free movement
No medic.
Medipacks removed from map.
No resupply locker at spawn.
Fly to the front at warp speed and have 12 health left and an empty rocket launcher.
>If you make the worst possible unrealistic situation Soldier doesn't actually have noclip in basically any of the post launch maps
Engineer*
>Wrangler shield removed
>Short Circuit literally just removed for the game entirely. No refunds for anyone who has rare short circuits.
>All buildings are highlighted for everyone
>Spy is unable to be targetted by Sentries at all. No need for disguise or cloak.
>Demo, Soldier, and Heavy have Sentry Armor, taking 25% less damage from Sentry bullets and 10% from rockets
Did you know demo already takes 100% less damage from sentries after blowing up the goddamn sentries?
tf2 would be better if it was just soldier, demoman and scout
Every class except for pyro fills an actual role in the metagame. Pyro just exists to be easy on players with bad internet. Hell, Heavy fills that role similarly.
Reminder that the "competitive" community for a time increased the airblast delay because he shit on their dumb Two Soldiers A Demo Medic and Two Scouts "Most Optimal" team composition
You have that 180° backwards, moron. Pyro is literally the only combat class with a unique role.
>Soldier and Demoman
generalist / explosive spam homosexuals / explosion-jumper gimmick
>Heavy and Engineer
area denial with a setup delay / self-healing homosexuals
>Scout, Spy, Sniper
pick classes
>Pyro
attrition damage / counter enemy attrition damage
that last role is something any class can do though. Heavy does the attrition thing better too. Medic contributes far more through healing than pyros ever do through reflecting
Any class can do any of those roles, it doesn't mean they are specialized in them.
>pyro, spy
ambush flankers
He did it in Meet the Pyro so it's accurate
I am going to strangle you with your own intestines for being so moronic.
playing tf2 is probably one of the biggest red flags you could possibly trigger
I have never killed with the shotgun in this game. I hit people 4 or 5 times in a row, they turn around and kill me in one shot.
Pro tip: Shotgun does 180 damage in two shots at optimal range
If you aren't shooting the following:
Heavy
Soldier
Demoman in funny shoes
In two shots, you're about to regret this decision.
is this the thread
Frick off, Pyrocynical.
No this isn't the thread. Why are pyrogays so degenerate? is it because of the whole latex fetish thing?
You are objectively bad. Even Spies and medics can gun him down 1v1
As unbearable as Pyrotrannies are Sniper is the only class that needs nerfing. Been pubstomping for well over a decade and they're a minor annoyance at worst.
t. 8k hourgay
Sniper doesn't need a nerf, they need to bump VAC so people can't cheat with clients from the first page of google.
Nerfing Sniper was never about bots, it's about how he ruins the flow of the game and dominates poorly designed maps (the majority)
>Pick Sniper
>Entire enemy team is playing a game of chicken with your line of sight
I dont think ive ever seen a thread as full of bad takes as this one, keep it up!
If you've played the game for more than 10 hours and still get mogged by suicide pyros then christ you suck ass. 9 times out of 10 when a Pyro pulls that shit they may get 1 or 2 lucky kills before being killed by the remaining 4 or so people they just decided to blindly run at.
literally just this
makes me think of other morons who actually think spy is op because of the instant kill and just cannot fricking grasp the concept of staying out of the spy's melee range
average tf2 player is fricking moronic
>Pyro needs a nerf
Lol lmao.
The only good thing about pyro is airblast. probably the second worst class right after spy.