Quake's color scheme was a logical choice for an 8-bit display. What I think made it objectionable was its clash with abstract level design. Other games can get away with muted color palettes through detailed and grounded environments, but with a bunch of rectangular corridors, you can barely tell any of them apart when they aren't bright and glamorous.
You'll want a lot of earth colors when you're doing a gloomy and grimey game with a gothic horror setting, yes. Complaining about Quake having a lot of brown is like complaining about Silent Hill's color palette, that game is full of rust, rot, and dirt, and that's the point, that's that game's aesthetic.
Not that you can't do horror with vibrant colors, Suspiria is splendidly colorful with stark tones everywhere, making it look almost like a comic book, and it works extremely well for that film, but Quake isn't doing that kind of aesthetic. Hell, Doom wasn't doing that kind of aesthetic.
but Blood is pretty cooler, and spookier
Luv me Blud
Luv me Quake
Luv em games with dark and gritty gothic aesthetics where mold and tetanus is plentiful
simple as
That's Quake 2.
Quake 2 is more gray interspliced with orange, if we're gonna stereotype it. Not that it too doesn't have a lot of color in actuality.
You'll want a lot of earth colors when you're doing a gloomy and grimey game with a gothic horror setting, yes. Complaining about Quake having a lot of brown is like complaining about Silent Hill's color palette, that game is full of rust, rot, and dirt, and that's the point, that's that game's aesthetic.
Not that you can't do horror with vibrant colors, Suspiria is splendidly colorful with stark tones everywhere, making it look almost like a comic book, and it works extremely well for that film, but Quake isn't doing that kind of aesthetic. Hell, Doom wasn't doing that kind of aesthetic.
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Luv me Blud
Luv me Quake
Luv em games with dark and gritty gothic aesthetics where mold and tetanus is plentiful
simple as
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Quake 2 is more gray interspliced with orange, if we're gonna stereotype it. Not that it too doesn't have a lot of color in actuality.
This makes me want to quickly go through Doom 2’s levels to see how they compare to Quake. A lot of the color is made up for with the monsters, the levels themselves are much less colorful or saturated.
Doom 2 I feel used less color in most of the early and mid game than Doom 1 did in E2 and E3. Doom as a whole has a lot of browns and tans, which was broken up with areas of gray or green, and then typically more vibrant stuff like this was more occasional.
Doom's monsters and objects are more colorful than Quake's though, which I think makes a difference.
You'll want a lot of earth colors when you're doing a gloomy and grimey game with a gothic horror setting, yes. Complaining about Quake having a lot of brown is like complaining about Silent Hill's color palette, that game is full of rust, rot, and dirt, and that's the point, that's that game's aesthetic.
Not that you can't do horror with vibrant colors, Suspiria is splendidly colorful with stark tones everywhere, making it look almost like a comic book, and it works extremely well for that film, but Quake isn't doing that kind of aesthetic. Hell, Doom wasn't doing that kind of aesthetic.
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Luv me Blud
Luv me Quake
Luv em games with dark and gritty gothic aesthetics where mold and tetanus is plentiful
simple as
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Quake 2 is more gray interspliced with orange, if we're gonna stereotype it. Not that it too doesn't have a lot of color in actuality.
Software renderer is the only true way to play Quake.
Such a shame this game is hard to emulate, DOSBox has a problem with constant desyncs and speed ups, only way to fix it is to limit cycles to 30FPS.
Screw Bethesda for messing up everything in the remaster, soundtrack might be included but if I cannot play QDQ demos or QTF, I’m pissed.
>I’d rather try to run the game as intended.
Why wouldn't the intended way to play be on the best hardware and settings possible that still retain the original aesthetic? id was all about pushing hardware and somewhat future proofing.
Never had issues on Windows 7. It looks pretty much the same as the DOS version when compared side by side.
2 years ago
Anonymous
had it on two PCs but can't check right now. it would look correct but then randomly switch to a different (standard vga?) palette. running the pickup flash command (bf or fb, not sure) would temporarily fix it
2 years ago
Anonymous
here's what I meant fwiw.
it doesn't seem to happen on my win10 machine now, but if I launch it with -noddraw it will always look like this, even after pickup flashes.
I remember finding an explanation, but can't anymore. but it's not the standard palette obviously.
2 years ago
Anonymous
IIRC Windows Aero/Explorer would cause issues like that with DOS games in Windows 7, so try writing a small batch file which kills explorer.exe and launches Quake, then resets it on exit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just toggle between DIB and DirectDraw. One works fine.
>I'm so much of a fricking moron I don't know what software rendering is
Yeah cry more buzzwords to try and hide you're an ignorant idiot.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm so much of a fricking moron I don't know what dgvoodoo is
Delete yourself.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>embarrassing yourself further and further
Yeah you got blown the frick out now you're just getting angry and violent
big surprise, cognitive dissonance is a b***h
2 years ago
Anonymous
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You are genuinely moronic if you think dgvoodoo is "software rendering".
Software rendering and hardware display API's are not mutually exclusive, you absolute fricking morons.
Dgvoodoo is a wrapper, not a renderer.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are beyond mentally moronic. dgvoodoo is a wrapper to translate the game's hardware-accelerated API into Direct3d calls. That is not the software renderer. Literally smother yourself you fricking mong. How can you genuinely be this hopelessly incompetent? Jesus christ.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy shit, you're such a fricking moron. How do you even have the brain capacity to get off your bed?
Dgvoodoo also wraps 2D calls.
http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo2/ReadmeDirectX/
2 years ago
Anonymous
the game does not work natively. what's so hard to understand?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'm so much of a fricking moron I don't know what software rendering is
Yeah cry more buzzwords to try and hide you're an ignorant idiot.
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You are genuinely moronic if you think dgvoodoo is "software rendering".
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You are genuinely moronic if you think dgvoodoo is "software rendering".
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Quake#Vanilla_Restoration_Patch >An alternative patch to the above that aims to fix compatibility issues with GLQuake and WinQuake through dgVoodoo 2 >and WinQuake through dgVoodoo 2
Doom 2 I feel used less color in most of the early and mid game than Doom 1 did in E2 and E3. Doom as a whole has a lot of browns and tans, which was broken up with areas of gray or green, and then typically more vibrant stuff like this was more occasional.
Doom's monsters and objects are more colorful than Quake's though, which I think makes a difference.
The monsters and item pickups seem to be doing all the work in the first half of 2 so far, as well as some of the spots seen here.
And the way Duke lost was pretty humiliating too. The price you pay for being just a glorified walking parody.
Duke Nukem Forever lost, Duke Nukem 3D tied very closely with Quake, there were not many other first person games of their caliber at the time of their release.
Quake 2 was colourful you fricking idiots, it had coloured lighting. Also, none of you played quake 2 mutiplayer in its heyday so you may not express any opinion on the game as a whole (ie saying its brown)
no i actually agree, but I've seen a thread propping up Q2 before.
the thing about Q2 that are really good never actually get talked about though, it's simple things like it's well rounded enemy roster, their animation and sound design are good, an effort made to make certain weapons more different to reduce redundancy of Q1.
a personal criticism of Q1 is that it leans way way too heavily on ogres and fiends for encounters for the majority of the game. ogres especially...like it feels at times the entire game is predicated on them alone. carmack was just REALLY excited to show off their little grenades bouncing around all over frick in real 3d space.
It plays better when you turn off that homosexual ambience 'soundtrack' and begin blasting some other song while playing it https://youtu.be/xX_Kb0cDN98
Yo listen up, here's the story
About a little guy that lives in a brown world
And all day and all night and everything he sees is just brown
Like him, inside and outside
Brown his house with a brown little window
And a brown Corvette
And everything is brown for him
And himself and everybody around
'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen
I'm brown da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
I forgot I had it in my library. Just had a run through great game, I like that the remaster can be configured to be lores with no texture filter it looks just like how I used to play it before I bought a Voodoo.
Only in Quake VR. Which is a surreal experience, having grown up with Quake. Everything feels way different when you realize a simple nail crate comes up to your chest.
I just wandered into /vr/ but multiplayer quake with a bunch of random people was fricking awesome. Before that it was literally hauling your computer to a friend's house or a LAN party. >I'm downstairs, my buddy is upstairs >leave the landline off the hook for awhile >it starts beeping, but eventually stops, leaving an open line so you can talk to eachother from different rooms in the house
frick yeah memories
I still play the game but on nQuake with modern graphics. It's great. Sometimes I also hop on to play 2v2 and 4v4 on dm2 and dm4. Community still active, join us: badplace.eu
picking maps with heavy use of colored light/fog/sky isn't really a fair counter-argument, vanilla game didn't have these.
anyway, I don't mind brown. having lots of neutral colors is a sensible choice if you're doing lightmaps with a limited palette.
Quake made a bad impression on me as a kid, so I haven't touched it until quite recently. Nowadays it's my favourite campaign made by id, replaying it often. Yes, that includes episode 4, especially episode 4.
Brown: the game
That's Quake 2.
Quake 2 is orange.
Nah, Q2 is grey textures with a bunch of rainbow colored lights everywhere.
>with a bunch of rainbow colored lights everywhere.
These really stick out after a fresh Quake 1 playthrough, it was fun to see.
Quake's color scheme was a logical choice for an 8-bit display. What I think made it objectionable was its clash with abstract level design. Other games can get away with muted color palettes through detailed and grounded environments, but with a bunch of rectangular corridors, you can barely tell any of them apart when they aren't bright and glamorous.
Quake isn’t brown, the colors just aren’t as bright as say, Doom’s
Gay: the post
Quake is still two thirds brown. Not to mention there's brown in some of those screens anyway.
maybe the shareware episode moron
still more colorful than Call of Dookie
I honestly remember more grays than browns.
You'll want a lot of earth colors when you're doing a gloomy and grimey game with a gothic horror setting, yes. Complaining about Quake having a lot of brown is like complaining about Silent Hill's color palette, that game is full of rust, rot, and dirt, and that's the point, that's that game's aesthetic.
Not that you can't do horror with vibrant colors, Suspiria is splendidly colorful with stark tones everywhere, making it look almost like a comic book, and it works extremely well for that film, but Quake isn't doing that kind of aesthetic. Hell, Doom wasn't doing that kind of aesthetic.
Luv me Blud
Luv me Quake
Luv em games with dark and gritty gothic aesthetics where mold and tetanus is plentiful
simple as
Quake 2 is more gray interspliced with orange, if we're gonna stereotype it. Not that it too doesn't have a lot of color in actuality.
This makes me want to quickly go through Doom 2’s levels to see how they compare to Quake. A lot of the color is made up for with the monsters, the levels themselves are much less colorful or saturated.
Doom 2 I feel used less color in most of the early and mid game than Doom 1 did in E2 and E3. Doom as a whole has a lot of browns and tans, which was broken up with areas of gray or green, and then typically more vibrant stuff like this was more occasional.
Doom's monsters and objects are more colorful than Quake's though, which I think makes a difference.
All I see is brown.
Software renderer is the only true way to play Quake.
Such a shame this game is hard to emulate, DOSBox has a problem with constant desyncs and speed ups, only way to fix it is to limit cycles to 30FPS.
Screw Bethesda for messing up everything in the remaster, soundtrack might be included but if I cannot play QDQ demos or QTF, I’m pissed.
Rungs well in QuakeSpasm for me.
QuakeSpasm doesn’t work for me for the soundtrack, plus sourceports suck.
Mark V is nice but I’d rather try to run the game as intended.
>I’d rather try to run the game as intended.
Why wouldn't the intended way to play be on the best hardware and settings possible that still retain the original aesthetic? id was all about pushing hardware and somewhat future proofing.
Oh, you just have trouble reading readmes.
Tried putting the sound track in the corresponding folders? That worked for me.
>DOSBox has a problem with constant desyncs and speed ups
host_framerate 0.0138889
done.
Why would you emulate it when the software renderer is native to Windows?
unless you're on winxp or earlier, you're gonna need something like dgvoodoo to run winquake, otherwise the palette gets fricked up.
Never had issues on Windows 7. It looks pretty much the same as the DOS version when compared side by side.
had it on two PCs but can't check right now. it would look correct but then randomly switch to a different (standard vga?) palette. running the pickup flash command (bf or fb, not sure) would temporarily fix it
here's what I meant fwiw.
it doesn't seem to happen on my win10 machine now, but if I launch it with -noddraw it will always look like this, even after pickup flashes.
I remember finding an explanation, but can't anymore. but it's not the standard palette obviously.
IIRC Windows Aero/Explorer would cause issues like that with DOS games in Windows 7, so try writing a small batch file which kills explorer.exe and launches Quake, then resets it on exit.
Just toggle between DIB and DirectDraw. One works fine.
>voodoo
So, NOT software rendering. Schizo much?
Bait.
>I'm so much of a fricking moron I don't know what software rendering is
Yeah cry more buzzwords to try and hide you're an ignorant idiot.
>I'm so much of a fricking moron I don't know what dgvoodoo is
Delete yourself.
>embarrassing yourself further and further
Yeah you got blown the frick out now you're just getting angry and violent
big surprise, cognitive dissonance is a b***h
Software rendering and hardware display API's are not mutually exclusive, you absolute fricking morons.
Dgvoodoo is a wrapper, not a renderer.
You are beyond mentally moronic. dgvoodoo is a wrapper to translate the game's hardware-accelerated API into Direct3d calls. That is not the software renderer. Literally smother yourself you fricking mong. How can you genuinely be this hopelessly incompetent? Jesus christ.
Holy shit, you're such a fricking moron. How do you even have the brain capacity to get off your bed?
Dgvoodoo also wraps 2D calls.
http://dege.freeweb.hu/dgVoodoo2/ReadmeDirectX/
the game does not work natively. what's so hard to understand?
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Quake#Vanilla_Restoration_Patch
>An alternative patch to the above that aims to fix compatibility issues with GLQuake and WinQuake through dgVoodoo 2
>and WinQuake through dgVoodoo 2
Oh no no no no no.
You are genuinely moronic if you think dgvoodoo is "software rendering".
my whole point was that you either emulate with dosbox or emulate by hijacking ddraw. the other guy isn't me and both of you are morons.
>hurr durr you have to emulate a HARDWARE GPU-ACCELERATED API to get software rendering
You are terminally fricking moronic.
>tries to prove OP wrong
>posts a bunch of screens with a lot of brown in them
>tries to prove OP wrong
*first post, not OP
>"quake's just brown"
posts picture where quake is not just brown
?
The monsters and item pickups seem to be doing all the work in the first half of 2 so far, as well as some of the spots seen here.
256 colors was all we had and we liked it
your under wears are brown
Palettelet
there's at least one blue level, come on now
I used to play Quake without music but I play Quake with music now.
but Blood is pretty cooler, and spookier
And slower and boringer and hitscannier.
Blood’s alright but the damn cultists are annoying
The cultists are the only real threat in te game sadly, along with the hell hounds
MARANAX
NIAAAAAAAHHHHH
Blood is the best Build Engine game, we can all leave it at that
The sound design in this game is so good.
Ranger is a p. cool guy eh kills eldritch monstrosities and dosent afraid or anything.
I don't know why but I can't into id games, I just get bored playing them
Because you're a zoom
>I ain't afraid of no quake
Duke lost
And the way Duke lost was pretty humiliating too. The price you pay for being just a glorified walking parody.
Blow it out your ass
He's not done losing.
Duke Nukem Forever lost, Duke Nukem 3D tied very closely with Quake, there were not many other first person games of their caliber at the time of their release.
I just cant imagine how badass it must have been to be a pc gamer back in 1997
It's not pretty, but it's cool and also spooky sometimes.
We need more “ugly” games IMO.
Nothin’ against Tront but I much prefer listening to Judas Priest while playing Quake.
I enjoy swimming in Quake because the water reminds me of chocolate milk 😛
I've played every version of this game available and I still think the N64 version was the best.
That's probably because you are a moron
I actually believe you disagree with me because you, in fact, are mentally moronic.
This right here is a perfect example of what too much consumption of brown can do to a person.
Do not play Quake.
interesting given that Quake 64 is the most colorful version. perhaps you're mentally ill?
Low res textures and Ironwail shader memes but yes it's very colorful
Quake 2 was colourful you fricking idiots, it had coloured lighting. Also, none of you played quake 2 mutiplayer in its heyday so you may not express any opinion on the game as a whole (ie saying its brown)
Q2>Q1 in pretty much every way but that is blasphemy around these parts
Ehhhh. I think Q1 was more interesting setting wise but Q2 was more competent game design wise. It has always been a tossup for me, I love them both.
enormously moronic
>Q2
>gib enemy
>torso is twice as big as the enemy it came from
lol Q2 is only good one N64 and PS1
no i actually agree, but I've seen a thread propping up Q2 before.
the thing about Q2 that are really good never actually get talked about though, it's simple things like it's well rounded enemy roster, their animation and sound design are good, an effort made to make certain weapons more different to reduce redundancy of Q1.
a personal criticism of Q1 is that it leans way way too heavily on ogres and fiends for encounters for the majority of the game. ogres especially...like it feels at times the entire game is predicated on them alone. carmack was just REALLY excited to show off their little grenades bouncing around all over frick in real 3d space.
I did, Quake 2's multiplayer was sick as frick, it's arguably even better than Quake 3's, which itself is a fantastic multiplayer game.
All the colored lighting was orange. Software mode looked more colorful.
Quake's lovely.
The hype surrounding it in 95 / 96 was awesome - really miss the Pentium & Co era.
>and spooky
Yes. Fricking shamblers and fiends still give me the creeps
Definitely not spooky
Only fun because of the music, higher resolution, ripped off the previous fps that was before it and still wasn't as fun as that
It plays better when you turn off that homosexual ambience 'soundtrack' and begin blasting some other song while playing it https://youtu.be/xX_Kb0cDN98
This is the only thing you should listen to when playing Quake.
CARLOS!
Yo listen up, here's the story
About a little guy that lives in a brown world
And all day and all night and everything he sees is just brown
Like him, inside and outside
Brown his house with a brown little window
And a brown Corvette
And everything is brown for him
And himself and everybody around
'Cause he ain't got nobody to listen
I'm brown da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
Da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa, da ba dee da ba daa
cringe and kys homosexual zoomer.
Serious talk i often replace the .midi files on quake for whatever song i feel like listening at the time https://youtu.be/e2MW2Dkx8eE
[Spoiler] i also do it on some duke nukem levels where the soundtrack just doesn't cut it for me [/spoiler]
Honestly I think Quake’s earthtone color scheme is quite fitting for the dark fantasy setting.
It is, people are just fricking gay.
episode 4 kinda sucks
quake is fun as hell, I'm a little burned out on it since playing it nonstop since the "remaster" in september, but damn I had a good time
I forgot I had it in my library. Just had a run through great game, I like that the remaster can be configured to be lores with no texture filter it looks just like how I used to play it before I bought a Voodoo.
I hate to admit it, but I’ve gotten motion sickness from Quake. Anybody else ever had this experience?
>motion sickness homosexual
pennjillette.png
Only in Quake VR. Which is a surreal experience, having grown up with Quake. Everything feels way different when you realize a simple nail crate comes up to your chest.
I just wandered into /vr/ but multiplayer quake with a bunch of random people was fricking awesome. Before that it was literally hauling your computer to a friend's house or a LAN party.
>I'm downstairs, my buddy is upstairs
>leave the landline off the hook for awhile
>it starts beeping, but eventually stops, leaving an open line so you can talk to eachother from different rooms in the house
frick yeah memories
I still play the game but on nQuake with modern graphics. It's great. Sometimes I also hop on to play 2v2 and 4v4 on dm2 and dm4. Community still active, join us: badplace.eu
picking maps with heavy use of colored light/fog/sky isn't really a fair counter-argument, vanilla game didn't have these.
anyway, I don't mind brown. having lots of neutral colors is a sensible choice if you're doing lightmaps with a limited palette.
i'm just drive-by posting. my 1st post itt and not intended as an argument for anything.
cool map
I like scourge of armagon
Me too.
Better than the main game.
Quake made a bad impression on me as a kid, so I haven't touched it until quite recently. Nowadays it's my favourite campaign made by id, replaying it often. Yes, that includes episode 4, especially episode 4.