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works on my machine
that's because your a paypig who wasted money on GPU
you're*
also I paid MSRP for a 3060ti, works on my machine 🙂
>Insulting someone who has $ for nice things
Not my problem, poorgay. It's CPU bound by the way.
You can run DD2 with a late 2018/early 2019 PC at 60 fps without much issue.
Western devs would load 20% of that and the game would run worse
>RDR2 looks better than DD2, was released 6 years earlier, runs on a PS4 and can be maxed out with a 1070
You are obviously wrong.
Japanese will NEVER EVER catch up to the west LMAO
>runs on a PS4
at sub 30 FPS lmao
>at sub 30 FPS lmao
just like DD2, on a PS5 lmao
I know you guys are fighting about consoles here, but besides the large hubs I was constantly at 60-70fps on my build.
>RDR2
>looks better than DD2
>runs on a PS4 sub 30fps
>DD2
>looks worse than RDR2
>runs on a PS5 sub 30fps
you surely cant be this moronic?
Not only do I not give a shit about DD2, I didn't even know that this is what the thread was about. I thought it was the Elden Ring map or some shit.
Just came in here to say RDR2 runs like absolute shit on console and can't even target its pitiful 30 FPS. Modern Rockstar are fricking hacks.
>Just came in here to say RDR2 runs like absolute shit on console and can't even target its pitiful 30 FPS.
incorretct, RDR2 runs fine, especially considering how much it is doing.
if you want a game that runs absolute shit on play Bloodborne
at least bloodborne is a fun game lol
if that would be true then there would be a Bloodborne 2 🙂
>incorretct, RDR2 runs fine,
*on PC
30 FPS is never fine. Even devs are realizing this now by releasing most games with a 60 FPS performance mode.
fricking this. I normally idle in warframe before I play for blessings and I put my res at 800x600 and cap it at 30fps to run in the back ground while I play something else. the other day I was playing at my normal resolution and it looked like shit, I was wondering if an update fricked my performance but no, I just forgot to put the cap back to 144.
RDR2 is sadly the exception and not the rule.
Where's Japans exception then?
Palworld
You think these games look anywhere near as good as RDR2 looks?
unironically yes
RDR2 suffers from both massive wankery overestimation and using art direction to cheat and look better than it really is, it's good points graphics wise aren't really technical but on it's art direction
and it seems it was lightning in a bottle too because GTA6 looks worse than it
>it's good points graphics wise aren't really technical but on it's art direction
It has fricking volumetric clouds lmao
and?
What the frick do you mean the graphics aren't really technical when they already are better on a technical level dude?
The AA market in japan is already mogging westoid AAAs anon, just the atelier games recently or the grubble one already look better than "look mom I'm really playing a movie" 2.
Meanwhile westoid games have degraded to the point the old batman games looked as good as RDR2 and it's been downhill from there.
enter...
you know what's funny?
This should be a given nowaday, right?
Right?
wtf the grass barely reacts when they walk on it
want to hear more impressive things about the game.
on those thicker leaves, if you looked at them them from the bottom you could see the leaf veins.
To be fair, even with something like Q6600 OC'd to 3,4GHz and 8800/9800GTS, Crysis ran like ass on widescreen resolutions. I had 1680x1050 display back in the days, and I remember being lucky if I got 50FPS.
>1680x1050
>50 fps
>in 2007
NOOOOOoooooooooo the horrors
Crysis didn't really run on my native resolution, if memory serves me right I played 4:3 with black bars, medium-high with few console tweaks and only the first three levels ran with acceptable rate. And I don't mean 140FPS, I'm not a moron, I mean at least stable 40. Crysis looked phenomenal with Ultra, but once you dropped the resolution and settings below medium, the textures and bumpmapped objects looked really fricking bad. It was fun tho.
>comparing a screen shot of the game with a screen shot of an already compressed youtube video
lmao
>Crysis
>60fps 1080p in 2007
lol. lmao. the meme was "but can it run crysis" for a reason
crysis asked for the hardware because the graphix were legitimately impressive
current westoid games ask for a 4090 to look worse than PS2 games
>try 30 fps at 800*600
>the meme was
You both talk about ultra settings made with future hardware in mind. You would know that if you weren't zoomer newbies. I played Crysis at 1280x1024 on high, which looked good and was fun. The game was highly optimized for any type of PC.
You don't know because modern games aren't optimized and graphics settings don't mean anything because no one makes different assets for different settings.
Stop lying.
I had a 8800GTS at the time and the first game run poorly.
Only the Expansion fixed the performance.
cute larp
>crysis
>1080p 60 fps
lmao try 30 fps at 800*600 at medium settings.
that would still btfo many AAA games released nowaday.
I think you should replay Crysis again. And not the remastered version.
>And not the remastered version.
thanks GOD You can count on me for that.
oh please, feel free to compare this with, let's say, Stellar Blade. Go ahead.
unironically better than almost all westoid vidya recently
>using a literal screenshot directly from in-game Crisis vs a Bullshot from Horizon Zero Fun
How soon you kids forget the Bullshot Fiascos of the 2010s and likely ongoing to this day. Did you know that the HZD running on PS4 was so jarring for PC users from the intense blurring whenever the camera was turned that it caused nausea?
>just the atelier games recently
Are you talking about the one that's a fricking mobile game? Lol
https://anitrendz.net/news/2023/08/08/the-next-atelier-series-game-is-a-mobile-and-steam-title/
Granblue Relink is seriously one of the best looking games I've ever played. Absolutely gorgeous, I wish it had HDR support on PC
agreed
i also took a pic there
>I wish it had HDR support on PC
Just use SK to retrofit it
post the battlefield mod example too
You forgot to mention that at the time Arkham knight ran like absolute garbage and they literally had to speed up gameplay trailers to make it seem like the game ran at 60 fps.
at least it got fixed
can't say the same for modern goyslop
It got "fixed" by you getting proper hardware to brute force it.
Same way Crysis was bruteforced.
again, can't say the same for modern goyslop
I can, because lotf actually got performance improvements.
So? You realize there have been plenty of games over the years that couldn't run on the top hardware at the time as well?
Come back with a 6xxx series and it will run fine, so you'll get a skewed perspective of what gaming performance was at the time.
>So? You realize there have been plenty of games over the years that couldn't run on the top hardware at the time as well?
This is exclusively a westoid game issue lmao.
How long are you going to keep moving the goalpost?
Also, Japs barely released anything on PC for the longest time and then they fricked up their ports.
Shit looking Jap PC port that runs like shit for no reason are basically a staple.
Remember fricking Dark Souls? Locked at 720p 30fps resolution and there was fricking nothing you could do about it.
Durante had to come and fix it, basically being single handedly responsible for this series making it as big as it has.
>*racist westoid noises trying to do history revisionism*
naruhodo
>too young to remember DS PC release
Frick off, newshit.
>Westoid is so desperate to find issues with japanese games he has to move the goalposts all the way to decade-old games.
>Games which worked fine regardless.
The absolute state of westoids.
Frick off, newshit
>if you aren't racist against japan and brainwashed by the israelite agenda then you're a newbie!
and so the israelite mask slips again and again
Frick off and take your meds, newshit.
Funny enough I played prepare to die for a lot longer than I did the original on the ps3. When it hit steamworks the game really died. I remember invading and people spamming you with homosexual or other creative words.
I remember Blightown being finally playable.
westoids ruin any community they infiltrate, what else is new
Why are you lying?
You most certainly didn't play it on release before DSfix was a thing.
I was literally about to drop the game because of how trash the PC port was.
>You most certainly didn't play it on release before DSfix was a thing.
DSfix was out 20 minutes after DS release.
And how does that change anything?
You didn't play it before the fix and don't remember how bad it was, which testifies to the shit quality of Jap PC ports at the time.
Just because someone else fixed it, didn't mean Japs weren't incompetent.
>You didn't play it before the fix
nobody did.
the fix was already there. It only prove how incompetent From Soft is tho.
>nobody did
Except I literally have. It was a separate mod.
Stop fricking arguing with me. That's how it looked without the fix.
Resolution did fricking nothing for the final rendering and it had a 30 fps lock.
Not to mention that gamepads were not even supported properly because that was way before big picture and gamepad integration.
Even now the gamepad doesn't work out of the box.
no? The game was Xinput. I remember playing it with my X360 controller just fine.
>It was a separate mod.
yeah, thanks, everyone got it that a mod is a separate mod. The thing is, again, it was out fricking 20 minutes after release. Everyone immediatly downloaded it and used it lmao.
Ok and how does that change the fact that the Jap were incompetent at making PC ports?
If it wasn't for the fix, nobody would've touched this series on PC.
but I precisely said the japs were incompetent.
They ported it because pc players begged for it. They warned about the quality before the game even came out. Not somethint you'll ever see a dev ever do again especially a western one. If the pc port is bad they try to hide it until release now even not giving review codes.
*Neogaf posters.
and they begged because of the terribles perf in Blightown on console.
Not him. You are correct, ptde is still unplayable without dsfix, but with dsfix and 60 you can't even launch it on w10. Works on linooks @60 but the jump and roll distance is fricked.
nta but that's incorrect. i literally just reinstalled it and finished it a couple weeks ago doing a little souls marathon.
Which part is incorrect?
I ran it on w10.
Uh... I don't know what to tell you, it just works. Maybe it's because I locked it at 57fps so that I didn't clip through ladders when I slid down them? (That works btw, going from 57 to 60 breaks ladders).
>Uh... I don't know what to tell you, it just works. Maybe it's because I locked it at 57fps so that I didn't clip through ladders when I slid down them? (That works btw, going from 57 to 60 breaks ladders).
That's the thing, dsfix ran perfectly on W7 with 60FPS but with 60FPS or with unlocked FPS at all it doesn't even launch on W10.
But that doesn't matter because I can simply dual boot into linooks, but that still doesn't fix jumping issue.
Tell me how you managed to run it at 60 on w10 because this is #1 complain I see online.
And while I'm fine with running it on Linooks this still doesn't fix fricked up jump range.
They knew the pc port would be bad because they had 0 experience with pc ports and were upfront about it. No such things for Elden Ring even though it sucked too.
Getting fixed was part of the problem.
>It's okay if the launch is shit they'll fix it later
Now they launch like shit and sometimes get fixed.
Elden Ring. That's like the default answer.
elden ring runs fine (now) but also looks worse than RDR2, so while an ok example (compared to DD2) it's not a good comparison for RDR2
>elden ring runs fine (now
It still has shader compilation stutter, and stutter due to EAC.
not a problem on linux
Possibly, I did try it on Arch, but it ran like ass. But Linux gaming is based.
>but also looks worse than RDR2
peak example of westoid delusion
japs don't seem to care about graphics as much as western devs
Arkham Knight
Kingdom Come
Horizon 2
CP77
Arma Reforger
you can give western studios a lot of shit but japanese tech is 10 years behind and they only start to catch up as they start to adopt Unreal Engine
>tech is 10 years behind
In what regard though? I am sincerely open to discourse, I would say Western devs try to push interaction or mechanical complexity ahead, but often have technical issues, jank or more bugs.
How buggy are Japanese games, very rarely outside of performance issues, generally.
>CP77
Fricking really? Actually you know. Add Arkham Knight to that list that game was so bad at launch the PC port was taken down. The 8th history revisionism. Another game that gets unfairly praised. Assassin's Creed Unity.
*8th gen history revisionism
Kingdom hearts 3 ran like ass on the ps4 and that's using the unreal engine. I recently played through it on pc and it was nice seeing it at 4k with no frame drops. I remember having to mess with the resolution settings to get the game running well on my ps4 pro.
RDR2 can only be maxed out if you have tons of memory and virtual memory. Rockstar's programmers are (mostly) skilled, but they aren't magicians.
you can't max out rdr2 on a 1080 ti let alone a 1070
And maxxed out RDR2 looks way better...The point?
Maxed out with tons of mods on a 1070ti, hi moron
RDR2 looks better than literally every Triple A, dude.
It's like how games these days struggle to look better than Arkham Knight, an almost 10 year old game.
RDR2 cost over 500 million dollars and took 8 years to make
With that kind of budget you'd think they'd have put more effort into the online.
Goes to show how much goes into making these open world games I guess, even Rockstar needs to cut corners somewhere.
RDO online was done by the same team as GTAO, and they pretty much confirmed that rdo was just a side project for them while focusing on gta.
that or you can't sell as much as you want shitty skins in a western game than in a gta.
Red dead online is such complete garbage that I refuse to believe a single person on the SP side worked on it.
Everything is way to expensive, and both the horse and weapons you get starting out are so shit that it actively makes even the first missions impossible to do without grinding for gear or buying gold.
False. Japanese dev incompetency is legendary
this is so true it is kind of silly. western coders are almost always better.
true af. western devs are completely incompetent
Never in my life have I heard anyone praise modern Japanese programming. I have no idea what happened in the last 10 years but occlusion culling has become a lost art. If it's not 4 homies in a row they don't know how to do it
>he doesn't know the time about when nintendo former president stepped into gamefreak to unfrick gamefreak kusoge(pokemon gold/silver)
>israelite propaganda stops anyone from praising anything japanese, therefore japan bad
this is just getting sad
This is why I play Nintendo games. They don't pretend they're in top technological league.
Nah you play them because you’re a 30 year old pedophile
but what do you do after you beat both games they release per year?
Did you forget TOTK trying to patent a bunch of basic physics systems as intellectual property?
>gets loaded at maximum "detail"
>game looks worse than your average PS2 title
cool
this is also true, even if the game had the same terrible washed out textures as TOTK, they would make it run worse
You did not own a PS2, underage moron.
>>game looks worse than your average PS2 title
because it's rendering half the world at all times
this ->
this is how PS2 games look like
meanwhile this is what your average PS3 game looks like. what went so wrong?
i can't believe the playstation 1 looked like this
meanwhile, N64 games looked like THIS
NINTENDO
This is what Nintendo games will look like in 2011.
No it fricking isn't. That resembles a PS3 game. PS2 games were blurry as shit and had aliasing out the ass
Guild Wars 1 look better.
No games looked like this on any console ever, this particular combination of settings is exclusive to poverty computers.
>consolegays actually believe this looks good
Kek
Bur even
I wish DD2 had PS2 graphics. Then it would have some serious SOUL and would probably have bigger dungeons and more enemy types.
hate you frickign morons, there's more polygons in 2bs ass than a room in silent hill 3
God this level of blind jap wienersucking is pathetic
they don't optimize, anon
neither do westerners, and their games are bigger and look worse too
Give it to me straight, are you a chatbot or some kind of autoresponder?
Compare the file size of every major japanese game this past year with the file size of most western games and tell me who doesn't optimize
Black person we are talking about occlusion so the game actually runs not your inability to buy a 1TB drive and the inability of Jap devs to make high-res textures in the first place.
It’s too bad Horizon is putrid dogshit
I like it
So it's just like DD2 then?
For all the issues DD2 has, the combat and game design is not one, unlike Horizon.
Nah.
Horizon however is very impressive visually, but that's all it really has going for it.
Jesus christ anon you didnt have to destroy him this hard
He didn't destroy him though.
Oh nevermind, he actually did.
Embarrassing level of mental illness.
I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters. You can tell it from the anime picture but I thought I might let you guys know anyways.
Azumanga Daioh was made before you were born.
Oh and I forgot to mention it made me transition as well.
Yeah, but enough about you, Anon.
Azumanga Daioh is a pretty great anime, big part of Ganker's history.
And a big part of my trans identity. Important detail I forgot to add in. It helped a lot of us channers crack our eggs.
That's cool, Anon, but you sure do talk about yourself a lot.
I really like Soramimi Cake and Raspberry Heaven, some of my favorite EDs and OPs.
>I really like Soramimi Cake and Raspberry Heaven, some of my favorite EDs and OPs.
Most trans women do. You're not special.
But enough about you.
We're talking about you thoughbeit.
I mean it's lovely to hear you talk about yourself, but I just really like Azumanga Daioh.
>but I just really like Azumanga Daioh.
As most trans women do, yes.
Anon, you really gotta stop talking about yourself so much.
We're talking about you, thoughbeit.
No, you're talking about yourself, you should be more humble.
Actually it's about you thoughever.
But he did thoughever
I know, I corrected my opinion here
why are you replying to yourself?
It's what the troonycord does.
Fricking savage
and dd2 is dog shit. i don't want any kind of dog shit.
Owned
been a while since I saw a roast this cooked
Well done
bro be spittin hard
got 'em
heh
This really isn't even close to being funny you obnoxious samehomosexual
It's just Swedish israelite things.
>implying I need to samegay my shitposts
I was forged in bait and shaped into a troll by decades, you read it right, decades, not years, of being constantly banned for racism, antisemitism and trolling outside of /b/. I'm the author of several memes and have instigated many movements on Ganker such as gamergame to name a few. I don't need to samegay, my posts will always attract a crowd and generate endless seethe and cope.
The whole 'ironic, self-humiliation' veneer is also really gay, and still makes you a huge homosexual, MitsukiJew.
Shitting up the place and embarrassing yourself ironically is still shitting up the place and embarrassing yourself.
I'm also trans btw, forgot to mention that.
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Snoy status: triggered
put me in the screencap, reddit!
edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
edit 2: woah, I've never got this many upvotes before. I feel so humbled. This must be the power of the interwebz!
edit 3: seeing quite a bit of hate in here. Gonna have to get the mods in on this one. Your ignorant bigotry and delusions aren't welcome here. Sorry not sorry.
edit 4: Yes, I'm the Step Dad. I'm the Dad who stepped up. It makes me a bigger man than you, actually.
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>Horizon Zero Draw Distance
Reason why it has 0 draw distance is actually because of extremely small map size. Skyrim is twice as much bigger than Zero Dawn's map.
Ever saw a fricking humid rainforest?
Of course there's going to be fog.
Can you imagine how miserable it must feel down under the canopy? Like that amount of heat and humidity has to be absolutely disgusting.
Yep. 100% humidity and constant mosquitos and heat must be hell.
I pirated the new Horizon to test it out and it looks pretty good and runs pretty well. Shame that the game is whatever
I liked the first one, but everyone says the second is just worse, with more pointless bloat.
kek this, diversity hires cant do anything right.
cope
Say what you want about western gameplay, but optimization is one of the few things western devs do much better than the Japs.
This kind of delusion is only spawned by someone that's had their brain damaged and washed. Sanjay go back to bed.
nah, elden ring is just a good game
see zelda, another japanese game where the render distance is like 10 feet away from you and yet people suck it off
It's funny because its true
Triggered the tribe worshipping westoids with this one
ywnbj
sippy bippy
>RDR2
>Forbidden West
>Eden Ring
>Spider Man 2
the japanese have no idea how to use a computer and thats a fact
Jap games are FUN but let’s not kid ourselves. Western programmers still BTFO most everyone else.
>Jap games are FUN
let’s not kid ourselves
Nips are worse programmers than even chinks, their code is legendarily bad, what the frick are you and the morons replying to you talking about?
you really angered people with this one anon. sublime
westoids really don't like being reminded of their own mediocrity
>Everybody calls you moronic
>Boy we sure got them this time anon!
Haha, pathetic
It makes for some pretty cool vistas, that then get ruined by the clouds being so low res
You could get the same result rendering a cone at a huge performance gain
And then the player turns around and they see massive pop-in issues.
Just make a wider cone that matches spin speed
why are the clouds so shit holy frick
nvidia problem apparently
Source?
can't remember exactly but play around with the nvidia control panel
I wasn't able to find anything regarding that online, but apparently someone made a mod that can fix the clouds https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/693?tab=images
>nvidia problem
It happens on PS5 too
MGSV looks way better, runs perfect, and is only 20gb.
>and is only 20gb
this is honestly the real accomplishment
it's impressive how westoid games have everything look like melted goyslop at a cinematic 24 fps yet still take upwards of 150gb, and i think some westoid games are starting to get even worse than that
Disk space is irrelevant in 2024 for anyone in a first world county and modern internet speeds.
>just buy more goyim
Buy more what, moron?
It takes like 20 minutes to download a 200GB game.
This is about games being extremely unoptimized, or even purposefully bloated to discourage piracy.
what's funny is pirates are the ones treating games like junk food, installing and uninstalling when they either finish them or get sick of them so they don't have to worry about disk space at all
not to mention pirates have the benefits of ultra efficient compressing for downloads on top of ripping to lessen the bloat even further
the only ones getting fricked over are legit customers
>discourage piracy
Did you read what I posted? Disk space is not an issue because it takes 20 minutes to pirate even the most bloated game.
That is if you don't live in some dystopian hellhole with data caps.
High speed storage doesn't have the largest capacity. The implication is most likely buying more space, or uninstalling a few games every couple of years. You are aware of this. Why are you pretending to be moronic?
>uninstalling a few games every couple of years
What?
Do you literally keep vidya installed for multiple years?
Not anymore because they're all 200gb
That a (You) problem then.
How about you needing to buy a shitload of CDs and DVDs for all your pirated shit back in the day?
I still have cases full of disks I burned "just in case" and I never used them once since 2006.
You could get a stack of 50 writable discs for like three dollars 20 years ago
It wasn't as much of a hassle as juggling a library of different hard drives
>apart from grass and clutter
So apart from the details? Almost like, a lower level of detail?
>reading comprehension
What am I misreading then? Everything apart from grass and clutter reads to me as meaning grass and clutter isn't being rendered. Maybe I lack the media literacy to discern the hidden truth. Explain it to me then.
It means models get loaded in at max polygon count and max resolution textures. I believe this also means enemies are rendered in but I don't know if I believe that aspect
I believe it for the Griffons at least.
They render half the map at max textures at all times
That isn't the worst way to put it.
You think other games render buildings and npcs and trees and animations at full detail halfway across the world?
Go look up how Mario in 64 rendered when he was far away. Now look up how he rendered when he was up close.
This is a rendering technique called Level of Detail.
Thanks to another technique called tessellation, we're much better at it now.
Enjoy your spoonfeeding.
Most games are rendered like this.
DD2 renders literally everything within the entire circle, not just whatever is in the immediate view+5 or so degrees on either side to mask the rendering.
Doesn't Elden Ring also not have occlusion culling?
NTA, don't know, but I can also tell you that Bethslop also does the same kind of culling.
Rockstar probably does it as well. Either way, stuff being 'full detail' is wrong, as I have played DD2 and it's pretty easy to see geometry in the environment change as you approach it (low to full quality). It's just a troonycord gayop and blatantly wrong.
Why do weebtists who are completely ignorant of how game engines work keep injecting their moron homosexual opinions?
Your GPU isn't meant to load full res textures of everything on half the map at once, because that fricks your framerate or causes hardware panic CTDs, moron. The only exception is bing bing wahoo graphics with no high detail to begin with.
Imagine being mogged in art direction, graphics, and performance by a cellphone game that stole your gameplay
lol
lmao
what, genshin impact? that dogshit plays nothing like dragons dogma you fricking moron, play some real fricking games for once in your life.
genshin child rapists have never played a real videogame in their life so they can't tell them apart
He's sort of right, BotW copied DD but nobody acknowledges it and Genshit copied BotW but only the worst parts
What does genshin gameplay have to do with Dragon's Dogma?
Or do you think every open world + action combat game is literally the same thing?
There is a discord that makes 24/7 DD2 threads, you will get nothing trying to argue with them.
The one thing Hoyo does right is know the limits of their target hardware, and make a game designed to look good and run better within it's constraints.
Genshin Impacto's gameplay is just dumbed down Bayonetta with elemental effects.
if it was that bad the discord trannies could patch the game to work on a pajeet toaster.. anyday now lol no
Isn't that a good thing?
meanwhile, shadow lod changes 5 feet from your character making it look disgusting below max shadows. these fricks are some of the most incompetent people who have ever lived.
Runs at 60fps in my PC
Not my problem
>32 gb ram
as long as you have nothing else open lmfao
DD2 is out? oh YESSSSSSS boys, it's time to buy it and then never play it because i have kids now and get 30 minutes at time. I'm still working on cyberpunk 2077.. I never finished AC Valhalla, I havent even started RDR2.. someone hold me
Why are you playing such dogshit games with your limited time?
Because honestly, I mostly play raid on my fricking phone because thats all I ever get time for. I just want to play games again. and also because I just like trash games tbh.
Because he’s not a homosexual unlike you, that much is obvious
You think Cyberpunk and Assassin's Creed are good? LOL
Some of the Assassins Creed games were very comfy like Odyssey.
Valhalla was absolute fricking shit though, I tried playing it a few times and it isn't fun and the progression is awful.
>female avatar
>discord
>doesn't provide evidence
i dont know what im supposed to be mad about please tell me
I'm pretty sure the game still does occlusion culling, so that shouldn't be a big deal. Out of city performance is also fine.
*What* LOD? There's not just one. This means nothing without knowing that
>run every model through auto lod generator (which capcom has used in every single video game they made)
>give engine generic range for every lod (which every single engine does)
>do none of these things
>game runs like shit everywhere
waoawoaowaow. crazy.
shirley they can just add a LoD slider
That's not possible.
My frames are 45 in the cities and 120 outside.
If everything was loaded like the discord troony claims, I would be at 45fps everywhere within range of any city.
Another Indian post debunked, good night.
Thats because the fps drops are caused by the NPC's AI, not the assets, Its a CPU bottleneck.
>make new shitty engine
>make games in 3x3 meter dark barely lit rooms
>gaymers praise it as the 2nd coming of game engines and optimization
>try to make a game where the map is bigger than a house and cant put everything in darkness
>turns out the engine and the optimziation is total dogshit
>gamyers are suprised
re engine is goated
It's a classic situation, you'll see people whining about arma being badly optimised and praising battlefield games for good optimisation.
Good optimisation is when game is small and empty, I suppose.
tbf I prefere how Arma look.
Arma 3 still look fine
>Good optimisation is when game is small and empty, I suppose.
that's the only way westoids can optimize
and even then hallway simulators like snoy of war still run like garbage
Ironic, considering every single JRPG is just recolored hallways.
>n-n-n-n-n-no u
do westoids really never grew out of kindergarten?
You will never be a woman and you will never be Japanese.
And so the israelite gives up and starts trying to ad hominem after getting utterly BTFO.
how's the advanced yellow vocation going for you? or the advanced green? having fun farming the Hydra or are you busy deciding which voice and which inclination to give to your pawn? surely warfarer has a way to equip more than 3 skills at once, given that it is a "jack of all trades" vocation, right?
Funnily enough, japan disagrees.
If you bravely stand against the israelites, you're a samurai.
You lost either way, cry me a river.
is that swastika behind him
bro, Arma is over 10 years old and it was a buggy shitfest at release
they should've used mtframework like God intended
>Weebs in denial: the thread
bruh
Will need proof of that. I played the game, and noticed on a 'lower quality' on distant terrain (both textures and topology), so I don't think it's true.
And still it runs better than any western release in the past 10 years...
>vanilla
Where's the LOD mod?
what the hell is LoD, people should just put the fricking name instead of 3 letters, how am I suppose to how what is it with all the slop releasing
if you don't know something as basic as that then there's no reason for you to read any of this
It stands for "Lick Old Dongs"
Lord Of Destruction, the expansion pack for D2
Toaster cope
Team ninja did this in strangers of paradise too IIRC. Why can't jap devs into LOD?
WTF then why does the game look so fricking bad?
>test
DD2 looks amazing, I have no idea what you morons are talking about
my theory is that Ganker plays all their games on a tiny 1080p monitor from 2008, so no matter how good a game looks, its wasted on their shit displays, so their experience of vidya is poisoned as a result
People that can't run it most likely
It looks fine, i especially like the natural lighting. But of course they had to stick shitty vignette on it. Either way it should run way better than it does since it looks like a ps4 game
I had a feeling nuCAPCOM wouldn't be able to match the level of optimization the original Dragon's Dogma had. A shame, but not entirely unexpected.
>wouldn't be able to match the level of optimization the original Dragon's Dogma had
dragon's dogma was sub 720p, sub 30 fps, and would tank for no reason all over the place. in that regard, dd2 is completely identical.
>do you want everything loaded in or pop in 5 feet away
>lod
>pop in
To think Wolfenstein 3D solved the LOD question....
For me it's Korean engineering. stellar Blade has great performance
>crank view distance way up
>DUUUDE WTF WHY IS THE VIEW DISTANCE SO BIG
I have a feeling that different lods as a concept got abandoned in general, especially with UE5 shovelware.
>SOURCE: MY DISCORD
What has the israelites utterly terrified recently that they keep desperately spamming anti-japan threads?
>Yeah, the israelites are terrified of japanese devs because they don't put Black folk in their ga-
-ACK!
You know whats cool about Brant? He never needs to mention he is black or bring up anything about race in any of his dialogue.
There's nothing cool about a Black person in a traditional european fantasy setting you disgusting Black person israelite.
Black person.
Post your hands, I bet you're brown or a chink.
>traditional european fantasy
Source? Except your dreams?
>creatures from european mythology
>european architecture
>european names
>european medieval society structure
>european armor and weapons
>european music that uses classic european instruments
>etc.
>now let''s add Black folk just because
>just because
you know why though
the fun thing about a Black person is you can see it with your own two eyes ina milisecond.
That's not a Black person, that's a black man.
Pic related is a Black person.
The Japanese are the israelites of the east and you damn well know it, pedophile.
And ESG is actively invested in the Japanese entertainment industry. Stop lying.
>israelite already having a melty over being called out.
KEK
He either shuts down or has a melty if you call him israeli, mostly the former.
I am astonished at how he recoiled
This image is stupid. Because you are a schizo that constantly posts this shit, and you find it impossible to believe that there is another schizo that constantly posts the things you respond to.
Meds. Now.
funny how the glorified westoid company also suffers from westoid coding problems
and the punchline is it still runs better and looks better than any westoid game LMFAO
>load shit the player can see
>unload shit the playerc ant see
simple as
>tessellation
But what if the player breaks the camera to see shit they're not supposed to see?
thast forbidden, kill the player
>tessellation
I do not think it means what you think it means.
Greentexted wrong
Supposed to be
>unload shit the playerc ant see
>israelite still salty about being called out almost a decade ago
lmfao
The Japanese were never good at programming.
Japanese can't into programming. They've been playing catch-up to western open world design for years and they still suck at it.
>western open world design
There is a design?????? Also old arcade games were optimazed from hell to back...Also, sharty gay. Get out, if you want attention make another not vidya thread, you homosexual
Yeah, you'd know if you weren't some low iq moron sperg.
Example gayget
Like I'm gonna waste my time explaining this to you. Play more games and use your brain. You'll be able tosee why the west is ahead.
You can't even backup your fricking statements, and I am the one who is moronic? Give me an example homosexual
>inb4.N-NO. homosexual. Asia sucks, and is nothing compared to w-we-WESTERN CHADS *run away*
You started your post with
>bu wa design???
You already proved how stupid you are and no one should waste their time arguing with a stupid person. Good day, weeb.
Post it b***h, you are wanking the west but you can't even mention GOOD open world games
Are you moronic? You haven't even played the game. When you go up a mountain you can see everything, some of the are monsters flying around and shit is happening.
Also nobody is complaining about the outside world, the only big complain is within the cities.
>maximum detail
moronic disctroony ragebait
even if something is 4k texture resolution, if it's 100 meters away and only 5 pixels WxH on the screen then it doesn't fricking matter and makes no sense, use your brain morons
>LOD
>texture resolution
you have no idea about wtf youre talking about.
o ya? Explain the difference between "MAXIMUM DETAIL" and textures, go on I'll wait
Nah, stay dumb.
>no argument
I accept your concession.
>this is the only way mizuki gets people to talk to him because his other threads die immediately
He's a Swedish israelite, it's all he can do.
Mods will never do their job and get rid of him.
I go to /vg/ to discuss about the game, he got banned over there like little b***h.
>He got banned.
Proof? I would love to see it, it'd be very funny.
>Trying to have any real discussion on /vg/.
That board has been hijacked by deranged asiatic mods for years now bro.
at least they ban shitheads like you.
Lol no, they let shitposters run rampant as long as they don't attack asiaticslop.
The instant you insult comfort women archive you get a 3 day.
i'm shocked this guy even gets banned, most threads have 2-3 resident schizos the mods just pretend don't exist
>mods just pretend don't exist
one of them must be a mod
gotta bully people into buying more and more expensive GPUs somehow
>discord trannies acting like a "no u" is some great bants
who are you quoting?
he must have got btfo so hard that he pretends to be someone else now
Being honest here, what did you gays expect from a country where most people don't even have a computer, and the ones that do have a fricking mac and iphone?
Hell, just a few years ago the japanese government ditched the fricking floppy disks for once, and nintendo was still running windows 95 for their servers several years into the switch's release.
I thought it was common knowledge that japanese programming is almost always awful spaghetti code? Their games just seems polished because jap work culture has everyone beating their head against a brick wall until it works. This is why they're the slowest to adapt to new tech advacements in software as well
if japanese code is bad then westoid code is putrid goyslop, that's the point
Nah I love jap games, but they cheat and take so much shortcuts to get games working that it's a miracle the games work sometimes. At least modern pc development has helped rectify this a bit. I can't remember the last time a game was so awful spaghetti coded since they started doing day 1 pc releases.
Unless it's crapcom, sega or square I legitimately haven't seen JP games suffer from that many code related issues.
Meanwhile even if you include indies, I can't remember the last time a westoid game released without being a broken mess, you just don't see it in indies much because at least those have the decency of releasing as "early access" first to have the goys do the beta testing and QA for them.
I can't forget when capcom had monster hunter world running at 64 threads all the time. Much of the CPU usage was just from switching threads.
They fixed it by simply nuking your CPU in iceborne and making dx12 mandatory to use otherwise.
You'd think these companies would learn by now but they never do.
Japanese coding is bad but so is indian coding. Guess who does all the coding for westslop #8362?
>Elden Ring is so poorly optimized they had to lower the multiplayer limit from 6 to 4 and on release any multiplayer session ended after 3 minutes
>DD2's dogshit optimization
>Pokemon looks worse than ever
>Zelda took like 6 years to release a new game that ripped off Garry's Mod physics system with the exact same map from the previous game
What went wrong
isn't it basically all the same code and shit from DS1 too? ER's multiplayer is terrible, there can be thousands of people in a given region and level range playing and it wouldn't connect me to anyone. after i beat the game i only wanted to play to co-op but the game just wouldn't let me.
Open worlds were a mistake. Time we went back to world maps with handcrafted towns and dungeons. Maybe have procedurally generated overworld arenas, though.
>people were complaining how Elden Ring runs bad
>every subsequent open world game since has ran worse besides TOTK and XB3
Is it Karma, or did Miyazaki put a pox on the industry?
TOTK ran like shit though
TotK has horrible fps issues even while having no AA and pixelated shadows everywhere. It manages not to crash but doing anything taxing chugs and stutters the engine especially fighting any of the medium sized enemy camps.
Lol I do though. I have a 3090 gaming pc and I mainly play japanese games. I'm currently playing through Dragon quest builders on steam.
woah I don't believe it this really changes my opinion on whether a game is fun or not
oh wait it doesn't techtards just get the rope
did people have performance issues with elden ring? never had a single framedrop on my machine sucks to be poor i guess lmao
You are simply blind or baiting, game has a lot of stuttering.
It never got fixed even on cucksoles.
Not that anon, but I had a good time at launch as well.
Like I said, baiting or blind.
Install the game and play it with performance graph if you can't tell when it stutters.
tip: it's mostly traversal stutter
>th-the green bar on my screen with the number that i pretend to understand is moving, oh my god i cant play my bideogame pleasssseeeeee i neeeeed my graaaaaphhhh
So it was bait. Got it.
Third anon that played ER at release.
There were a few very specific spots that had noticable stutters, but they were very few and far between and certainly weren't annoying enough to really even be mentioned.
It's nothing like Jedi Survivor where on release literally every 5-6 seconds the game was stuttering
I'm not saying the game was stuttering all the time, I'm saying it had issues and still does.
I finished the game and enjoyed it.
How homosexuals keep denying the reality is simply funny.
>I don't see it
>Works fine on my PC
All those posts are simply moronic because they never provide any evidence to their claims while there are multiple videos about this issue.
>what about
Just because other games have unplayable level of stuttering doesn't change that.
Fromsoft isn't known for good optimization.
Yeah and I'm telling you I had a good time. I don't need to have msi afterburner installed to know that. I was always at a locked 60fps at 4k and my gsync never disengaged so I clearly didn't have any bad 1percent lows or anything like that.
And I'm telling you are simply overlooking those stutters because you had good time and they weren't obnoxious because they rarely happen in combat.
And you still experienced shader compilation stutter so don't even lie about that.
>I'm not saying the game was stuttering all the time, I'm saying it had issues and still does.
You replied saying the game stutters all the time.
You then replied to another post saying they're wrong and to install a performance metric to see how bad the stuttering is
You then replied and called someone a troll
(this is where I came in, the 3rd anon)
You then reply to me and said
>i'm not talking about just stuttering the game has a lot of other issues too!!!
I do not respond to disingenuous dipshits like yourself that are only on this board to argue for the sake of arguing other than to inform them that they're a transparent as frick and aren't even remotely trying to hide it anymore, and that I will no longer be giving them the (you)s they so desperately want.
NTA, but he's completely right, and you're completely wrong.
I love pc gaming, but I hate for homosexuals like digital foundry and other channels have ruined any and all performance talk with that crap.
Reminder that they claimed returnal on pc was ruined by "traversal stutter" and had to be corrected by the actual devs later that the same issue was found on the ps5.
idk i was in the threads in 2022 and we were having fun nobody was whining about framerates and other gay shit like that sounds like you poorgays are revising history again
optimization is a dying art
Why are western dev wienersuckers even playing japanese games?
I play everything. Unlike you, who plays nothing.
I only play Japanese games and I stay in my lane, unlike you who vomits shit out his mouth because he likes the taste
>I only play Japanese games and I stay in my lane
So stay in your lane and don't talk back, slave.
epic trolling my fellow Ganker Black person
>trolling
You're the one who admits to getting all of their opinions from third hand accounts.
What game
the adventures of john dogma 2
How is that true though when people like zullie have already shown old game builds and how things fade out and lose a lot of textures as you zoom out (nowhere near as large a radius). Literally you're just seeing a somewhat rendered face of a structure, there is nothing there til you're close enough.
That's not Elden Ring, that's dragon's dogma 2
This is how stupid and dumb fromtrannies really are.
Good. I hate pop-ins
>LOD
>pop-in
it's incredible how fricking tech illiterate this whole board is.
Don't care, having a blast in 480p
troony post and troony thread
Right??
Right????
Ri-
oh, this was made by a single guy in his garage with basically 0 budget.
he's right THOUGH, when people reverse engineer jap games the code is damn near always some fricking arcane garbage where it's a miracle it even runs at all. There's a german autist that has an entire youtube channel dedicated to cleaning up Super Mario 64's code and he literally managed to double the framerate on original N64 hardware, this is with the benefit of modern hindsight but still
>he's
israelites really ran out of money to hide good astroturfers?
Elden Ring runs at a stable frame rate on my setup, so frick off with that bait shit.
ok weeb homie, now post a real videogame
How did they even frick up this badly?
Capcom games usually run pretty well on PC
It's their first time making a open world game. Before this all RE Engine games were linear hallways or a instance the size of ocarina of time Hyrule Field.
>Before this all RE Engine games were linear hallways or a instance the size of ocarina of time Hyrule Field.
Incorrect. Monster Hunter Rise also used the RE Engine.
Rise was also a switch game.
and look how big are the areas in that game. its ocarina of time n64 sized.
Out of curiosity to the discord shit posters why lock onto dd2 of all games? DDDA was pretty niche. Why don't you kids ever dedicated shitpost proper AAA Activision tier dogshit?
Because they are probably mentally ill star wars fans that play gacha all day.
Unreal Engine has done irreparable damage to the game industry.
Unreal Engine 3 was pretty good then something happened with 4&5 that regressed badly.
>Game was rushed out the door
>Made for an 11 year old console
>normied ate it up thinking it was a souls game
>dlc takes 4x longer to come out because of console limitations
Its over
almost as bad as City skyline 2.
How can that be so if the main town has tons of obvious lod pop-ins on all the building models/textures as you walk around?
Granted I only played it around release, maybe they broke it all since then
OP is always obvious bait. Move along citizen.
your cpu is shitting itself between loading npcs and loading drawcalls
7800x3d so doubtful, it was pretty obviously some lod thing since it would pop-out to a low res mess and then pop back in once you move past some trigger radius
What is with perpetual onliners pretending to be woman?
>i7 7700
>16GB ram
>1060 6GB
>on a HDD
pretty impresive considering im running it at 60 on this
Who cares, the story was shit and there's no reason to replay 2 over 1. What a disappointing sequel.
>crapcom can't into basic optimization
lmao
What is this revisionism bullshit that gays try to pull in this thread?
PC ports for Jap games have always been shit. Not even the biggest shill can act like that wasn't the case.
Some assblasted weeb is damage controlling hard, thinking everyone here is as new as him.
>*the game is perfectly playable at launch with minor nitpicks*
>B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT LE BAD PORTS
it's really funny when "bad japanese ports" are still orders of magnitude better than "good" westoid goyslop games
I haven't seen any huge Japanese game running as smoothly as Doom16 and eternal does, mate.
And no, no amout of shitposting will ever change that japanese ports had juge frame issues and other bugs that the console version never had. They might fix that now that they're not focusing on consoles exclusively anymore but no amount of pretending will change that fact.
>if i ignore like 99% of the japanese vidya industry then i haven't seen well optimized jp games
israelites are getting desperate i see
>Everyone who disagrees with my opinion is a israelite
Black person behaviour. I don't care if you prefer westshit or asiaticshit but at least be honest about what an unoptimized mess most jap games were in the 2010's.
Also hillarious shit to say when you do the same shit with west stuff.
Wait. If all this shit loads at Harve, why i still get 100 fps on it? Only the two main cities have tanked the performance so far.
It's a discord announcement post, 90% chance of being completely wrong
Which in this case it is since the game has tons of obvious lod switching
I have no idea why people are trying to pretend this is a bad thing in any way, pushing out the LoD range is better for an open world game and something even modders have been doing forever. This has absolutely nothing to do with the performance issues as they only happen in town, not out in the map.
The game looks beautiful and even if it does cost 10 fps that's great, i'll take it it's not like i'm playing on a console.
No wonder they're so eager for poojeets, it would be a genuine improvement for them
post the one with the credits of Halo infinite being a big ass uncompressed video file.
Could be worse I suppose
>Comparing 80% of a jp game to just the credits on a westoid game.
>And the japan side still wins.
I have never seen such a big westoid self own like this.
>Dumbshit weebs now defending bink video
Gets more pathetic with every passing day
doesnt seem to be the case when I use freecam tho
why
anyone?
I've had the terrain pop into lower detail when flying around with freecam
Beethy also seems to be an obnoxious moron who jumps to conclusions and is probably a troon.
>Was able to play the game on this meme broken down PC built with junk parts
Japan won
Westshit lost
>gpu chillin at 30c
>mobo chilling at 30c
>cpu utterly shitting itself at 85c
why is this so funny
Speccy is trash.
it once told me my CPU was at 95C, so I freaked out and took everything apart to reapply thermal paste only for it to make no difference.
Checked with another program and it was a ta cool 40, actually.
The PC in that pic did not have a cooler on the cpu.
I see, but speccy really does that, especially with AMD CPUs.
Speccy hates AMD in general
I will never get how this place will endlessly defend dragons dogshit 2 fps despite being one of the most mediocre games ive ever played while shitting on literally ANYTHING that might be competition or compared to it
I dont get it. I think this place suffers from brainrot
dragon's dogshit: dogshit always had a vocal cult following that will defend its IP including dragon's dogshit 2
You are arguing with autists who spent decades of their life defending a mediocre pile of shit
You haven't played it, sitting here 12 hours a day vomiting into threads about new games doesn't mean you've played them.
I have
>NOOOOO BUT THERES NO WAY YOU COULDVE POSSIBLY PLAYED LE GankerCORE GAME AND DISLIKE IT
This is cultist behaviour. Imagine defending a mediocre game so bad that it rarely gets threads on here anymore because you think someone on here is ur boogeyman
grow up and stop defending mediocre games to fit in
I only have performance issues in high population settlements/cities, everywhere else I am at stable 60 fps.
>Evacuate Vernworth
>In the entire city
>>60 fps in the entire city*
fml
>using anything other than either afterburner or hwinfo
do goys really?
Don't care, graphicsgays ruined gaming. This still looks better to me than the piss and shit-filtered modern slop
Because that's the only thing you can run, poorgay.
Now go away, the adults are talking.
Why do you pay to eat shit? Are you a homosexual?
Every game should allow people with powerful hardware to max LoD as far as the eye can see (but still be tuned for weaker setups)
the japanese disappear this century so you don't have to suffer them for long
>100 more years
>2 more weeks bro, for real this time
FYI the birth rate on westoid countries is even worse than what's in korea once you remove the poojets and nigs out of the equation
you can cope all you like, 2.1 births per woman is required to maintain a population without immigration
the japanese population went from meagre growth to completely leveling off in recent years, this marks the beginning of the end as the elderly begin to die over time with not enough babies to take their place
their birth rates and fertility rates are in the shitter and in a downtrend among the lowest in the world
these are not opinions, these are facts
I know it's hard for midwits, but you need at least a triple digit IQ to project into the far future
your precious japanese will disappear
THeir rates are comparable to the native populations of most european countries.
Why would we maintain the current population levels? Everyone was shrieking that the world was overpopulated a decade ago. Now when population levels are stabilizing and shrinking these same people say it's bad.
Pretty impressive the game only shits itself in town then
Japanese are shit programmers, it's not a secret
MODS = homosexualS