At least they admit they're cannibals, Galfrey kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality, and absolutely nothing she says or does will ever redeem her for that. Which is why I always violently murder her once I crawl the frick out of the Worldwound, not even mad that she threw me in there in the first place purely out of jealousy that I was doing a better job fighting the demons than she ever did.With my skeletons doing all the work.
>kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality,
No? The church simply spends billions making immortality elixirs to Galfrey, because they believe she's the key to saving the world
>At least they admit they're cannibals, Galfrey kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality, and absolutely nothing she says or does will ever redeem her for that. Which is why I always violently murder her once I crawl the frick out of the Worldwound, not even mad that she threw me in there in the first place purely out of jealousy that I was doing a better job fighting the demons than she ever did.With my skeletons doing all the work.
Her elixir is explicitly made out of mega-expensive flowers
the sun orchid elixir is an established thing in pathfinder that has nothing to do with killing kids, it's expensive because one master alchemist literally figured out the secret to immortality and then made a personal deal with Pharasma that he would only make a limited amount every so often so she wouldn't fricking smite him to death. If you play as an Alchemist on the tabletop you can also discover immortality as a capstone ability in a similar fashion
https://aonprd.com/MagicArtifactsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Sun%20Orchid%20Elixir
(of course you could also just be a druid and continually Reincarnate yourself since reincarnation is explicitly A-OK and allowed by Pharasma because James Jacobs was terrified of accused of being racist against IRL buddhists and hindus lmao)
she was scared of not being the golden child anymore
you (the MC) are scary, you come out of nowhere and do all that shit in a few months that she couldn't in decades
I wanted to prefer the Succubus but Cam's romance just feels so much better.
Honestly Arue's problem is that she's basically already pure and you're just there to kick her off the cliff or pat her on the back.
I needed more of her dangerous side (which sometimes came up) or they needed to work a little harder at making you question if she deserves redemption.
moronic, actively fired the greatest general she ever had before throwing him into hell just because he had a succubus on his party. Also took away the city wide zone of protection on their frontline city. If you weren't rail-roaded to help the crusade still, it should have been ANOTHER failure.
oh yeah she took away that zone of protection while you were in hell and made a suicide charge towards the demon king dude who one-shot the last city he was in and one-shot a literal dragon. When she's already lost to him 4 times before.
>Gave Staunton a false hope for redemption >All it did was get him bullied nonstop for seven decades which made him so bitter and mad he decided to betray the crusaders
I swear the only good decision this woman takes in the entire game is making you commander (and even then she still fricks up if you play evil/trickster)
Funny thing is, if it wasn't railroaded, there was a decent chance that attempting to send the MC to Abyss would have backfired and caused it to splinter.
IRL Crusades ended up backfiring for much less.
You know what happens when you mess with the leader of the army?
You get the army pissed at you. >Emperor Alexios V then attempted to negotiate with the Crusaders for a withdrawal from Byzantine territory without payment, but they refused in order to avenge Alexios IV and receive the money that was promised.In March 1204, the Crusader and Venetian leadership decided on the outright conquest of Constantinople in order to settle debts, and drew up a formal agreement to divide the Byzantine Empire between them. >The sack of Constantinople occurred in April 1204 and marked the culmination of the Fourth Crusade. Crusader armies captured, looted, and destroyed parts of Constantinople, then the capital of the Byzantine Empire. After the capture of the city, the Latin Empire (known to the Byzantines as the Frankokratia or the Latin occupation) was established and Baldwin of Flanders was crowned Emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople in the Hagia Sophia.
>After the city's sacking, most of the Byzantine Empire's territories were divided up among the Crusaders. Byzantine aristocrats also established a number of small independent splinter states—one of them being the Empire of Nicaea, which would eventually recapture Constantinople in 1261 and proclaim the reinstatement of the Empire. However, the restored Empire never managed to reclaim its former territorial or economic strength, and eventually fell to the rising Ottoman Empire in the 1453 Siege of Constantinople.
>The Byzantine Empire was left much poorer, smaller, and ultimately less able to defend itself against the Seljuk and Ottoman conquests that followed; the actions of the Crusaders thus directly accelerated the collapse of Christendom in the east, and in the long run helped facilitate the later Ottoman conquests of Southeastern Europe.
nta but come on. The only person competent/powerful enough to push back into the demon's buttholes gets "reassigned" and now "b***h Queen" Galfrey starts leading THE COMMSNDER'S troops? The same troops that rallied under his banner? The same people that answered the call of duty to end the worldwound because finally there might be a chance to stop it? And on top of that she demands to go head first into the now unknown transformed Sarkoris that they have no info on, basically dooming themselves to being exposed to guerrilla warfare all the way to their deaths and torture by demons?
You must be moronic if you don't grasp this. Apparently the writers didn't grasp it either, which is why Kingmaker is written better than this bullshit.
I just wanted a quick Crusade history lesson. Thanks
nta but come on. The only person competent/powerful enough to push back into the demon's buttholes gets "reassigned" and now "b***h Queen" Galfrey starts leading THE COMMSNDER'S troops? The same troops that rallied under his banner? The same people that answered the call of duty to end the worldwound because finally there might be a chance to stop it? And on top of that she demands to go head first into the now unknown transformed Sarkoris that they have no info on, basically dooming themselves to being exposed to guerrilla warfare all the way to their deaths and torture by demons?
You must be moronic if you don't grasp this. Apparently the writers didn't grasp it either, which is why Kingmaker is written better than this bullshit.
Her terrible ideas have exactly the result you'd expect, though. The Crusade suffers heavy losses and nearly loses invaluable artefacts due to her boneheaded march.
That part is nice, but not having at least a portion of the army desert outright seems like an overight. The fifth crusade, first started out of desperation as a last ditch effort to counter the demons gained forces from all over the world as momentum accumulated. Why wouldn't but the most devout (read:moronic) followers of the b***h queen ever march forwards without their patron? After all, Kenabres/Drezdn has been contained and further peril to the neighbouring countries would have been put under control.
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I think people probably didn't want to rock the boat too much given how much progress the crusade had made at that point. If you were closer to saving the world from demons than you'd ever been, would you jeopardize it because your commander changed?
The troops were still on a high from claiming Drezen and were overconfident. Many were still more loyal to Galfrey than the KC, but at the end of the day they probably thought they had divine intervention from Iomade to win the war and thought they were invincible.
And Galfrey was an insecure b***h; no surprise she gave those orders
Funny thing is, even if you play as the goodest of good while being an Angel and Herald of Iomedae supporting you and suggesting her to rethink, she still does that.
She literally goes against every logical reason not to just suddenly force you into the Abyss and barely can be convinced to not take away your leadership even with an Angel supporting you.
She is a moron.
She sends you to the Abyss to stop the spread of the N crystals which ultimately helps win the war. She might have had ulterior motives for doing it but it wasn't a bad decision.
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And if we were stuck in the Abyss for just like a few more days, there would hVe been no war to win.
I honesrly believe if we didn't jump into the Abyss with all the most powerful in the Crusade and actually thought things out, we would have been way more successful.
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Yes, but framing it as a punitive assignment alongside attempting to strip your rank robs it of any good intention. The Hand even calls her out on her pettiness if you've met all the good path conditions.
>Play lawful evil lich >Stay true to my word on everything, trying to kill the demons since I just want to sit around doing lich things >Roastie destroys my armies after sending me to the abyss, constantly get attacked by my own people, constantly forced to kill people and raise them as undead slaves because THEY WON'T STOP TRYING TO BACKSTAB ME AND WON'T JUST FIGHT THE FRICKING DEMONS
Lich run was a lot of fun. I don't know how the hell Owlcat went from multiple mythic paths feeling distinct and flavorfully coloring the whole campaign to Rogue Trader where nothing matters
This is one reason I appricated Regill so much. Its actually really fricking refreshing to have a RPG companion whose pragmatic to a fault. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only Mythic Path he has a legitimate problem with is Demon, for obvious reasons. He'll even work with Azata, which is the complete opposite of his Alignment and will mostly just be annoyed by them.
Dude was fricking solid and dependable.
Mythic path has nothing to do with it, you just need to avoid doing things he dislikes during his questline
Which for the record makes no sense if you're playing demon, but that's how it is
Because Wrath was an extremely localized problem of apocalyptic proportions, RT was essentially business as usual for a frontier sector of space and you were pursuing the plot as a matter of pride mostly. There’d technically be nothing wrong with your RT using his stupid fricking money to frick off to some pleasure palace for the rest of his life
She's just having a perpetual woman moment. >fail to save the world multiple times >put some nobody loser in charge to see if they can do it >they actually can and are doing a better job >get butthurt and banish them to the demon realm >destroy everything they built and run off to get killed >they come back from plowing buttholes across a demon capitol >they unfrick everything AGAIN and save the world after killing literal gods >still assmad they're better
One of the most realistic depictions of women ever written.
She lost my wizard army.
She somehow manage to get my 300+ stack of Wizards, all of them who knew Firaball, killed.
How can you lose all those Wizards women?
thats why i like devil path >turn sarkosis into satellite client state of Chelax (known debialogists and enslavers) >crusades are hyjacked by church of Asmodeus, and contain devils that dont even try to hide fact what they are >get announced as devil-saint in Asmedian church, become high ranking devil/duke 2nd most powerful archdevil >galfrey shits up because she worst paladin in history and in my head canon lost connection with Iomade due letting crusade and large chuck of country fall under Asmodeus influence.
I like that you can punish her in lich, aeon, demon paths as well (i know you can just eat her in swarm path, and i didnt completed azata, angel, dragon paths so someone tell me if you can punish her there also)
congratulations you just listed out 90% of the devil path content.
i still can't believe they cut the galfrey slave contract. i will never forgive starrok
Devils in PF are pretty kino I agree. I still prefer "crusade hijack by way of lich", though.
Sadly OwlBlack folk made Devil the weakest mythic path by far and with the least fun mechanics to boot.
tbh i played as 10 armiger/10 hellknight Aeon->devil and retained aeon immunities wre cool but devils "attacks count as lawful/evil & immunty to fire" already overlapped too much with hellknights attacks as lawful, immune to fire as long as youre wearing armor and weapom axiomatic/evil/fire burst at will. all other spells as abilities & decrees were fun but i agree, overall it was kinda letdown compared to other mythic paths (mechanical power wise).
congratulations you just listed out 90% of the devil path content.
i still can't believe they cut the galfrey slave contract. i will never forgive starrok
story wise, i enjoyed for what it was and how they portrayed devil. i wish there was "archmage" or something similar path that would be suited for wizard that wishes to master magic but dont become lich/bug/other. (martial story is more suited for martial character, storywise & mechanics wise imo to count as proper archmage)
is there a reason go go mystic theurge instead of going 20/20 into a divine and arcane caster?
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Honestly, I wouldn't know. I just did it because I could.
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I think you can pump up your caster level higher. Going 15 Cleric/15 Wizard/10 MT leaves you at 25 CL in both instead of 20.
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You could probably make some sort of powerful spellsword with both arcane & divine spellcasting but ever since Legend got uncapped number of martial attacks I dont think itd be worth it over just going unga bunga with your 200 BAB
So how did the Demon War last for centuries? I know the main settlements on the human side were guarded by wardstones, but surely humanity didn't simply sit in the cities for decades not fighting, fight? They surely fought the demons, and if so, how long were these campaigns?
For example, the Commander's (the player character) campaign from the beginning of the game to the end is like 3 years. Would normal campaigns have been longer? shorter? and what would be the win / lose conditioning for a campaign? Retake "x" city? What would be the point when captured territory wouldn't have a wardstone to prevent demons from teleporting to it. Assassinate "x" demon enemy? Did they even know the name of any key demons aside from the demon lords.
>So how did the Demon War last for centuries?
It didn't, it lasted like a century >They surely fought the demons, and if so, how long were these campaigns?
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Mendevian_Crusades
Now make a comic where she's smilling through the rape and convinces swarm kc to stop being a murderhobo and turns him into a housewife (male). You know that's more in character for ember.
Owlcat has literally never made a single gay/lesbian character with the sole exception of Sosiel who was already gay in the AP, stop looking for things to cry about, the DLC characters are going to be bisexual as they have always been
Also she's going to be trash either way so it doesn't matter
Honestly the mechanics in this game was way too complicated, and on higher difficulties the game basically forces you to minmax, otherwise you ain't doing shit with all the AC and saves the enemies get.
There's also no reliable online source, and the only guy who makes non-trivial videos for it is some bald russian high from smoking pot.
>3 years later >Still has a bunch of blank pages, or worse yet, "template" pages that don't have any actual information in them and just link to a bunch of other pages that may or may not have the info you're looking for >All while having a gorillion fricking elements that need to be filtered out by ublock >Including the always-changing twitch embed on the left
I fricking hate fextralife so much, and I hate the israelite rat frickhead that uses these wikis as his primary revenue source
>3 years later >Still has a bunch of blank pages, or worse yet, "template" pages that don't have any actual information in them and just link to a bunch of other pages that may or may not have the info you're looking for >All while having a gorillion fricking elements that need to be filtered out by ublock >Including the always-changing twitch embed on the left
I fricking hate fextralife so much, and I hate the israelite rat frickhead that uses these wikis as his primary revenue source
How did they trick Owlcat into making it their official wiki?
I swear to god people just try to play at higher difficulties as a way to brag and then b***h and cry when they get wrecked.
Just finished Kingmaker at normal mode and it was a breeze for the most time. I don’t remember almost no boss after the Troll King which lasted more than a couple rounds. Needed no minmax dipping bullshit even when I raised the difficulty halfway through.
As a complete noob, it was a very interesting learning process. Now I feel confident about trying Harder modes.
But if you go by internet discourse, even Normal mode with -2AC on enemies and 80% damage is unforgiving and Armag is unbeatable somehow. People refuse to read rules in an RPG and complain their lovely 2h weapon Guts-copy OC can’t tank 18 attacks every round
Certainly seemed like it. I played Pathfinder as a TRPG before the games came out, so I knew the system well enough that I could play on Challenging, but the number of dipshits getting filtered by the fricking Spider Cave at launch was comical.
>the mechanics in this game was way too complicated
It's literally just simplified pathfinder. People play this shit against each other calculating shit by hand irl, and you find it too complex in a pc game?
They do but they read whole books before doing that.
You don’t think most brainlets picking up an RPG after BG3 are prepared for anything other than just putting points in their main stat and hoping every combat turns out okay, do you?
>they read whole books before doing that
The books are mostly just extra options, the core rulebook has like 95% of the combat rules. >You don’t think most brainlets picking up an RPG after BG3 are prepared for anything other than just putting points in their main stat and hoping every combat turns out okay, do you?
I don't, but why would you calibrate the top difficulties to cater to them? That's what normal is for.
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a difficulty setting called "unfair" to require munchkinism.
Even Normal with no enemy debuffs (ac, stats, damage) offers a decent difficulty.
But I still don’t get why people go for harder modes, even higher tuned than “core” rules and expect their wishwashy 9str melee Fighter perform better than shit. I mean, if they’re so dumb they can’t figure out basic rules, they’re dumb enough to complain the hardest available difficulty requires optimization and game knowledge.
I don’t care much for minmaxxing and abusive dips so I stick to difficulties tuned around normal and core and it’s mostly fine. People also forget there is a custom difficulty option as well.
>I don’t care much for minmaxxing and abusive dips so I stick to difficulties tuned around normal and core and it’s mostly fine.
Protip: hard and unfair are only hard at the very beginning. You can easily avoid bullshit dips and unimmersive minmaxxing if you just turn the difficulty up once you hit level 5 or thereabout.
the game is a massive flavor fail with its rollercoaster of difficulty God level strength random smilodons trouncing everything, epic random encounters where you're in a canyon with a gibrileth omnigod with 50 AC full attack reach and +50 to initiative that somehow always rolls 20 that outright rapes nenio forcing a reload or just eating res scrolls, that one maximum elder god tier demon noble kineticist that full charges a maximizd empowered projectile at literally anyone and deletes them in some random corner of Alushinyrra, vavakia vanguard.
Meanwhile the real act bosses are absolute wimps >Minagho is the designated instant loss so technically you're the boss of that fight here >Nulkineth does fricking nothing and gets eaten by his own ghouls >Staunton is a cutscene fight >Xantir actually poses a threat when he turns into a bunch of swarms, for 1 or 2 rounds max >Hey Darrazand is that a repurposed playful darkne- >Baphomet cutscene cheats but dies anyways because Nocticula cheats harder >Herald of the Inheritor gets chunked in 1 turn by literally any party composition >Deskari's hardest moment in the fight is trying to click on the damn purple crystal because his ass is so fricking large I can't see shit >vavakia vanguard >Areelu "50% miss chance 90 casts of lvl 9 spells" Vorlesh is barely hanging in there in the final boss worthy tier, and you only have to eat 50% of her HP to trigger some instant defeat dialog because you really are done with this game at this moment and you just want it to end
The only fun this game's difficulty offers are the "secret" bosses
sure >Mark of justice + 50 creeping doom
But I'm referring to the flavor of the difficulty, you don't notice enemies getting tougher or smarter, they just pop in to get ground to dust and randomly one or another enemy is more dangerous than the worldwound and then suddenly you're back to grinding demons left and right. Yeah I know, mythic powers power fantasy n shit, but a random demon in a random ambush encounter should not have more AC than literal mythic crystal buttplug wearing superdemons. Or Blackwater. Frick Blackwater. And frick Blackwater again for not giving you the option to control the device to use its nanomachines as a mecha swarm to eat deskari's bugs, that shit would rock so hard.
>Frick Blackwater
was there some special strategy you were supposed to use? I just slammed my head into the brick wall and beat down every enemy and coup de grace'd them because they wouldn't die when their hp reached zero
Not really. Protection From / Resistance To Element (Electricity), turn off the forcefield, and pummel him into the fricking dirt. Though I've heard a Wand of Dimension Door lets you bypass the forcefield entirely and skip straight to the shitstomping.
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>Dimension Door
You can summon shit right next to them, assuming your summoner can take the projectiles.
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It does. Only real use for DD in the game that I found.
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you what? 3000 hours of playtime and I always ate a fricking sunbeam with guaranteed blind on a bunch of characters before shitstomping the autist.
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the wide range of experiences people have in blackwater is because you get to go there early in act 3 but the encounters are balanced around late act 3
It was one of the last places I went to and I stomped the boss in two turns, the cyborgized mooks gave me more trouble to be honest
on harder difficulties greater dispel is mandatory once you get to the midnight fane and beyond
you can brute force everything else up until playful darkness
mirror image is such aids
actually poses a threat when he turns into a bunch of swarms, for 1 or 2 rounds max
so how do you deal with swarms?
I had to ember firestorm the shit out of the area
>so how do you deal with swarms?
you stay the frick away from them and cast AoE spells. They're incredibly slow and easy to kite. Or just grab a kineticist and watch as swarms become a non-issue.
All the other paths that don't merge have ball buster late game spells to compensate (Trick Fate, Abyssal Storm, Zone of Predetermination, Second Breath) but they just come online 40 hours after lich and angel are done one shotting the entire game with their super spells that they get at level fricking 11. There are mods to fix that of course, but that comes with its own problems (stigmatized witch doesn't merge with trickster despite witch merging, Second Breath restores its own spell slot if you merge with azata, Demon becomes a slightly weaker Angel)
All the other paths that don't merge have ball buster late game spells to compensate (Trick Fate, Abyssal Storm, Zone of Predetermination, Second Breath) but they just come online 40 hours after lich and angel are done one shotting the entire game with their super spells that they get at level fricking 11. There are mods to fix that of course, but that comes with its own problems (stigmatized witch doesn't merge with trickster despite witch merging, Second Breath restores its own spell slot if you merge with azata, Demon becomes a slightly weaker Angel)
Other paths don't really need it.
Demon Casters can get an insanely high DC on their spells and they can also cast 3 spells per a round.
Azatas can reroll the DCs on their spells if an enemy beats them (Persistent Magic) and they can also turn their single target spells into AoE spells with Zippy Magic
Aeon Casters have an insanely high DC on their dispel and they can also force their enemies to roll 11s on their saves, which is actually really fricking good for eliminating rng in battle.
A Demon Illusionist Wizard or a Hiddeous Laughter + Zippy Magic + Persistent Magic Enchanter may not be as flashy, but it'll still rape every enemy on the battlefield -- bosses included
Swarms have theoretically infinite DCs due to swarm level increasing spell DCs and they have the highest mental and physical stats in the game. Effectively you get all your party slots x2 spells that you can cast before the demons even get a turn.
Furthermore, if you really wanted to, you can slap a full melee kit on one clone and use transformation to give them a full martial's attack with a 50 ft melee range.
Oh and you aren't reliant on a glitch/exploit to do this.
Written by idiots, for idiots, in a game full of unlikable idiot NPCs.
But hey, you can autism about your unique dickweaver/unicorn cavalier/anal voreologist/semen alchemist/snowflake build.
>enemy are prebuffed with permanent duration spells and abilities >give myself the same ability with mods >game becomes 10x more bearable
Not interested in metagame save scumming just to clear encounters
What’s a fun class to play in this game?
Also is the crusade gameplay supposed to be dogshit because I hate it and just cheated to give me 1000k troops because I hate it
Cavalier is fun if you like deleting enemies from your hard drive on charges. As for crusade mode, just hire a mage general and blow your enemies the frick up.
>tabletop pathfinder >The Mantis God is one of the first creatures the gods ever created, designed for the explict purpose of killing demigods >is outright immune to being killed by creatures who aren't demigods or stronger >has a permanent dispell magic auro with a radius of 360 feet and can create Gates as an move action >with a challenge rating of 30, this monster is intended to fight a party of max-level (or near max) PCs >46 AC
vs >wrath of the righteous video game >random mook >you'll fight multiple of these in a typical encounter >60 AC lmao
A PC game inherently has to up the ante because players have little reason to not minmax the frick out of their characters on top of being able to reload if shit goes awry. A DM would probably similarly buff enemies if he was even allowing players to blatantly minmax and a failed encounter could still spell the end of the campaign.
An easier analogy to get your point across would be the demon lord, Deskaris.
He has 47 AC and he's an endgame boss in the tabletop campaign. Ingame, 47 AC is the AC of an Owlbear or mid tier bandit...for some strange reason.
>those minotaur evocators in the second set of midnight isles dungeons that cast two siroccos, cones of cold, waves of ecstasy, or chain lightnings per turn
I've never been more angry in my life
For me, its the carnivorous crystal packs with a dozen of DC 40 permastun auras to pass and if you kill one they split into two stronger and larger versions because that makes sense. >It's a cast web and alt+tab until Lann passes one of the 10 saves per round with a nat 20 and pelts 6000 HP/20DR to death alone episode.
There's even a nahyndrian superboss of these crystals in the angel path which is somehow easier than the multiple crystal encounters. Jeez I wonder why.
I also thought those were the most bullshit enemies I had yet encountered but then I realized they only have 1 dexterity so any non-mind affecting spell that reduces dex like polar ray, polar midnight, bestow curse, or plaguestorm one shots them
Frick it. I'll reinstall, what's a good class in this again? My go-to is usually rogue but I wanna try cleric. Thank god it's not as cucked as it is in pathfinder 2e
Also did they fix the reddit kitsune or is she still an annoying c**t?
>Also did they fix the reddit kitsune or is she still an annoying c**t?
I don't know what you expect, do you think they're going to rewrite an entire fricking character? Just tell her annoying ass to frick off the first time you meet her
She broke your power fantasy, and it hurt you to your very core.
You will never get over how badly you were hurt by her words.
You get angry.
You curse the world every day that you, the all mighty and all powerful super saiyan mega commander, got demoted.
You will never forgive her for this.
You will fantasize everyday about killing her for daring to do something other than kiss your feet.
You are a complete fricking loser.
The ego hurting one is Iomedae, Galfrey is a fricking moron that outright goes out of her way to frick everything up
She broke your power fantasy, and it hurt you to your very core.
You will never get over how badly you were hurt by her words.
You get angry.
You curse the world every day that you, the all mighty and all powerful super saiyan mega commander, got demoted.
You will never forgive her for this.
You will fantasize everyday about killing her for daring to do something other than kiss your feet.
>betray the person whose be hard carrying the crusades after hiring them >person is understandably fricking upset >NOOOOOOOOOO, UR JUST HECKIN FRAGILE
I took the bait, because this is an impressive level of moronation.
You do know that you can kill her, let her get killed, kill her and rise her as undead or just simply make her look like an old gay in game right?
(Plus you don't get demoted if you are an Angel.)
>Be the most successful general the crusade has ever had >Do what she couldn't do in decades of trying in a few months >She is so salty she sends me off to die >Come back and lose my position because I made a drunk guy king of the tavern
It has nothing to do with power fantasy, it is just that she is clearly written to be unlikable.
Woman moment
Even best bro Herald calls her a moron on Angel path and so you nominally are still the commander but still have to hop into the abyss
in the adventure path since you don't want a main character in a cooperative game it makes more sense since those super demons are fricking people up hard
Weird question, but after playing Kingmaker I got to ask. Are Naga in Pathfinder always giant snakes with human heads, or are their also "humanoid snake people" type of Naga's? Either way, I think having more non-bipedal companions in these type of games would be cool.
>carry weight affects character movement >pick up 9999 tons of garbage >out of combat movement slows to a crawl >in combat movement is completely unchanged >this shit is literally just useless busywork >toggle it off >difficulty goes from core to custom >you can just waste 10 minutes dropping gear on the ground and collect each time you zone transition anyways
why implement this shit? Who enjoys this shit?
In D&D Nagas are snakes with human head and are very powerful. the humanoid snake people are usually the yuan-ti, with varying degrees of snek in them. The lamia looking ones are called yuan-ti abominations. I don't know if they're in pathfinder though.
>are the best girls in their respective game >can't romance them
What the FRICK is wrong with Owlcat??
Why do they like blue balling their players like that???
>Any creature killed hellfire ray must attempt a Will saving throw; failure means the creature’s soul is damned to Hell as a burst of brimstone appears around its corpse. A nonevil spellcaster attempting to bring the creature back from the dead must attempt a caster level check (DC = 10 + the slain creature’s level) to succeed; failure means the spellcaster cannot try again for 1 day. Evil spellcasters can raise the slain character normally, without requiring a check. A raised character’s soul is no longer automatically consigned to Hell.
She isn't there no god kind of atheist
She is the god are as flawed as we are if not more so we shouldn't rely on them and to be honest she is better than any Rahadoum
Her true love path eases her back a bit. Definitely nowhere close to good, and probably still on the south side of neutral, but it's a positive change.
She's just too stupid and mind broken. You have to hand wave so much just to keep her around. She was worse to me than dealing with Octavia, who is at least pretty.
>Wanting to romance the c**t that manipulates you intending to kill you and laughs at you for believing her once you find out the truth
What can I say? Villainesses are hot as frick and I like the aesthetics of her palace/city.
What? Noc doesn't manipulate you. She wants you to get rid of her rivals because they are shitbags and I agreed that they were shitbags and dumpstered them.
An entire section dedicated to you finding out that Nocticula intended to kill you to close the worldwound while you were none the wiser about it and you still say this.
>Nocticula intended to kill you to close the worldwound
Pretty sure her plan was always to sacrifice Areelu for that. If she changes her target to you, that has to be a backup plan and a rushed one because by that point you're too strong for that.
>Pretty sure her plan was always to sacrifice Areelu for that
The opposite she had no idea that Areelu would work too, you think she would waste her time with you if she did? The instant Areelu admits that she can be used to close the worldwound Nocticula immediately tries to capture her, but Areelu runs away
swarm that walks is pretty weak story wise, but is still one of my favorite mythic paths
eating all of the morons is very cathartic, and you gain access to the best companions in the game - yourself
To be fair, when you become real bug smut fetishist, I don't blame them.
Swarm is objectively stupid, like inviting the Zerg to stop aloen invaders. Or worse since the Swarm lacks the sexy female design.
>Being such a paragon of goodness and power that you can actually fix the Worldwound, because you're a goddamn gold dragon and basically Iomedae is fricking stupid
It's pretty great.
Given that in the adventure model he was both black and a corpse (he died in the initial attack with Terendelev), it's weird that they would make such a blatant change.
After doing angel & azata I think Meph was the hardest boss for me. Huge AC and spell resistance, penetrating fire spells and also that you can face him at around level 17 or 18 even I think.
How's the other path's bosses? I've heard Nocticula is also hard as hell, and what about the Aeon devil?
>Random encounter in act 1 >A fricking succubus with a DC 21 dominate and godly dexterity >A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three >A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three >A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three >A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three
TWENTY FRICKING NINE STRENGTH HOW IS DEFENDER'S HEART STILL STANDING WITH THESE MOTHERFRICKERS CRAWLING ALL OVER THE PLACE?
>the tavern defense fight
I was getting shat on so bad that I just had to BoT to give myself all 20s and the enemies all 1s. I could NOT fricking do that after like 6 attempts.
is last azlanti even fun with the massively moronic stat bloat and luck abuse in the early acts? especially in unfair? This game's "core" is a half-assed attempt to be like the tabletop game.
Last azlanti just sounds stupid as frick in 100+ narrative game just to lose everything in some random fight 60 hours in and now you have to redo the story all over again.
>the tavern defense fight
I was getting shat on so bad that I just had to BoT to give myself all 20s and the enemies all 1s. I could NOT fricking do that after like 6 attempts.
>Game has some of the most satisfying build autism imaginable >Nearly every level up feels exciting and fun >Lots of weird, unique gear to find and use >Tons of party builds that can be made, mythic paths that give very different skills and styles of play, some even give super unique companions and interactions >But the game itself is bloated to all hell and back with tons of pointless busywork, traveling, backtracking, tacked on crusade mechanics, and an even more bloated story that completely falls apart after the first act and was written with like two paths in mind and everything else is either a joke or underwritten
WotR is a game that is so ambitious but also just so flawed. The story sucks so bad, and the writing is not very good either, and that is a major problem in a CRPG where you start going hours and hours and hours without leveling up and you're killing your 10000th demon to get a tiny bit of XP because you just want to level up to feel something.
Wait until you realize that every build plays the same and most of the gear is useless (such as all those weapons with one gorillion unique effects that doesn't mean jack shit because the only thing that matters is reach and crit range)
I can suspend my belief that the Crusade would accept a Necromancer or justify using the demon's own powers against them.
I can't see people following an Azata as they are portrayed in this game.
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>Azata as they are portrayed in this game
i could, if the azata was winning
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I know Ganker is mindbroken by azata but imagine actually and unironically thinking that it's more logical to follow a literal demon over the standard CG dude
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>over the standard CG dude
Azata is chaotic stupid, not chaotic good. But I 100% agree with you. No crusader is following a demon commander in a holy war versus demons.
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>Literally has an entire subpath where you act too chaotic and everything goes wrong and everyone dies because of how moronic you were >And another path where you temper yourself and everything goes right
nah
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>everyone dies because of how moronic you were
i assuming thats trickster path ? >temper yourself and everything goes right
Legend ?
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No, azata uses a point system to determine if you get the good or bad outcomes, and the bad one involves being way too chaotic to the point that your soldiers can't even obey the most basic of orders which ends up getting them all killed
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>chaotic stupid, not chaotic good
they're not. the goal of the azata path is being chaotic good, not chaotic stupid. if you choose to be chaotic stupid you'll get the bad ending
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One is a Brutal Warlord that could be considered a particularly ugly tiefling, something unfortunately common in thr worldwound.
The other is running off to have tea and cookies with their dragon and mimic friends while the soldiers are dying on the frontlines.
Azata is sometimes cool but often not.
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>soldiers are dying on the frontlines
They're also in the front lines. These little chads saved my ass about 3 times.
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>particularly ugly tiefling
The crusaders are aware that you're turning into a demon, that's why they talk shit about you >The other is running off to have tea and cookies with their dragon and mimic friends while the soldiers are dying on the frontlines
Azata walks around doing the exact same quests every mythic path does, with the azata questline being focused on you recruiting people for the "free crusaders" which basically amounts to building an army
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I think the main mythic path that is missing from the game is a nature focused one. Azata is the closest we get to that.
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I still don't get why we don't have a magical Archmage path. I don't want to go to the bone zone and become a Lich for magic.
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The only notable archimages are the Dead god and the storyteller
Swarm or you complained of running out of Ideas, my suggestion is you move on to Commissioning works of Owlcat's characters in general.
What did your money finally dry up lol?
i wanted to romance the spidercat, but gets annoying fast ,doesshe gets a happy ending with MC ? a house in the woods with lots of childrens and handholding ?
also is worth to replay it ? my first run made a goody-two-shoes aasimar Kineticist with angel path and romanced of course the sucubus
I really tried this game after having a blast with Rogue Trader, and ended up uninstalling it after the queen handed me the reign. It's just doesn't click with me I guess. Characters are not particularly likeable, and their portraits are just plain ugly. The only one I like is probably the half lizard half demon guy you met in prologue I intended to TND in the first place. Cool guy. Also Lesbian orc.
Got brutally mogged by a succubus with better looks and support from a goddess than hers. that succ also gets to hang around KC and kill demons while you just sit on your throne and listen to konomi blast your ears with politics 24/7. plus Arue has a bigger rack
It wasn't actually about Arue being a succubus, she was just looking for any point to make against you.
In her defense, Arue should still ping as Evil to her Paladin powers due to it being part of her creature Template. She's made out of elemental evil, basically.
beside the terrible buff stacking requirements, forced mythic path qol picks for duration, and emphasis on bullrushing through encounters on RTwP,
the fricking shittiest thing in this game are the movement rules
WHY CANT I MOVE FIVE FEET AND TAKE AN ACTION?
LET ME FRICKING MOVE OWLCAT
and
WHY ARE THE CANTRIPS SO FRICKING BAD
Being inferior to a cannibalistic spider cat and a cannibalistic stacy half-elf.
Int debuff from serving The Useless Goddess Iomedai. Once she become herald of ascended Commander, it's get fixed.
Good story, now, face the wall.
At least they admit they're cannibals, Galfrey kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality, and absolutely nothing she says or does will ever redeem her for that. Which is why I always violently murder her once I crawl the frick out of the Worldwound, not even mad that she threw me in there in the first place purely out of jealousy that I was doing a better job fighting the demons than she ever did.With my skeletons doing all the work.
>Literally making shit up to make Galfrey look bad
You don't have to do that, the game does it for you
I haven't lied once in my post whatsoever, try exhausting all the dialogue random NPCs have available.
Where can you learn about the potion? I missed in the game, I think she said that kingdom buys an expensive potion for her every now and then
>kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality,
No? The church simply spends billions making immortality elixirs to Galfrey, because they believe she's the key to saving the world
>At least they admit they're cannibals, Galfrey kidnaps orphaned children and turns them into a kind of stem cell gatorade that she drinks in order to keep up the appearance of immortality, and absolutely nothing she says or does will ever redeem her for that. Which is why I always violently murder her once I crawl the frick out of the Worldwound, not even mad that she threw me in there in the first place purely out of jealousy that I was doing a better job fighting the demons than she ever did.With my skeletons doing all the work.
Her elixir is explicitly made out of mega-expensive flowers
the sun orchid elixir is an established thing in pathfinder that has nothing to do with killing kids, it's expensive because one master alchemist literally figured out the secret to immortality and then made a personal deal with Pharasma that he would only make a limited amount every so often so she wouldn't fricking smite him to death. If you play as an Alchemist on the tabletop you can also discover immortality as a capstone ability in a similar fashion
https://aonprd.com/MagicArtifactsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Sun%20Orchid%20Elixir
(of course you could also just be a druid and continually Reincarnate yourself since reincarnation is explicitly A-OK and allowed by Pharasma because James Jacobs was terrified of accused of being racist against IRL buddhists and hindus lmao)
upset that my aeon was not interested in giving her the dick
b***h spent decades being useless only to play second fiddle to you as you wrecked demons.
Old hag
She's useless and haven't done anything of note in closing the Worldwound. Regill was right to laugh at her
She got complacent.
I sexed her
hot
Lawful Incompetent.
Jealous old hag
>this is some anon's waifu
OH NO NO NO
You can tell she used to be really beautiful. Like those really well preserved bo mummies of Germanic women.
She's a woman
She knows she is inferior to the succubus.
she was scared of not being the golden child anymore
you (the MC) are scary, you come out of nowhere and do all that shit in a few months that she couldn't in decades
She is the secret romance character but everyone prefers the succubus or the half elf serier killer.
I wanted to prefer the Succubus but Cam's romance just feels so much better.
Honestly Arue's problem is that she's basically already pure and you're just there to kick her off the cliff or pat her on the back.
I needed more of her dangerous side (which sometimes came up) or they needed to work a little harder at making you question if she deserves redemption.
moronic, actively fired the greatest general she ever had before throwing him into hell just because he had a succubus on his party. Also took away the city wide zone of protection on their frontline city. If you weren't rail-roaded to help the crusade still, it should have been ANOTHER failure.
oh yeah she took away that zone of protection while you were in hell and made a suicide charge towards the demon king dude who one-shot the last city he was in and one-shot a literal dragon. When she's already lost to him 4 times before.
The very same thing she shat on Staunton Vhane for doing, no less.
She went out of her way to lessen Staunton's punishment when everyone else was calling for his blood
Maybe she was planning to do the same as Stanton but Standon did it first.
>Gave Staunton a false hope for redemption
>All it did was get him bullied nonstop for seven decades which made him so bitter and mad he decided to betray the crusaders
I swear the only good decision this woman takes in the entire game is making you commander (and even then she still fricks up if you play evil/trickster)
I still wish you could recruit staunton while he was still alive and actually help him toward redemption, but I understand why they didn't.
He really only would have worked as an Aeon exclusive.
Funny thing is, if it wasn't railroaded, there was a decent chance that attempting to send the MC to Abyss would have backfired and caused it to splinter.
IRL Crusades ended up backfiring for much less.
>IRL Crusades ended up backfiring for much less
How so? Were commanders really that important?
You know what happens when you mess with the leader of the army?
You get the army pissed at you.
>Emperor Alexios V then attempted to negotiate with the Crusaders for a withdrawal from Byzantine territory without payment, but they refused in order to avenge Alexios IV and receive the money that was promised.In March 1204, the Crusader and Venetian leadership decided on the outright conquest of Constantinople in order to settle debts, and drew up a formal agreement to divide the Byzantine Empire between them.
>The sack of Constantinople occurred in April 1204 and marked the culmination of the Fourth Crusade. Crusader armies captured, looted, and destroyed parts of Constantinople, then the capital of the Byzantine Empire. After the capture of the city, the Latin Empire (known to the Byzantines as the Frankokratia or the Latin occupation) was established and Baldwin of Flanders was crowned Emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople in the Hagia Sophia.
>After the city's sacking, most of the Byzantine Empire's territories were divided up among the Crusaders. Byzantine aristocrats also established a number of small independent splinter states—one of them being the Empire of Nicaea, which would eventually recapture Constantinople in 1261 and proclaim the reinstatement of the Empire. However, the restored Empire never managed to reclaim its former territorial or economic strength, and eventually fell to the rising Ottoman Empire in the 1453 Siege of Constantinople.
>The Byzantine Empire was left much poorer, smaller, and ultimately less able to defend itself against the Seljuk and Ottoman conquests that followed; the actions of the Crusaders thus directly accelerated the collapse of Christendom in the east, and in the long run helped facilitate the later Ottoman conquests of Southeastern Europe.
I just wanted a quick Crusade history lesson. Thanks
>In March 1204, the Crusader and Venetian leadership decided on the outright conquest of Constantinople in order to settle debts
Holy based
nta but come on. The only person competent/powerful enough to push back into the demon's buttholes gets "reassigned" and now "b***h Queen" Galfrey starts leading THE COMMSNDER'S troops? The same troops that rallied under his banner? The same people that answered the call of duty to end the worldwound because finally there might be a chance to stop it? And on top of that she demands to go head first into the now unknown transformed Sarkoris that they have no info on, basically dooming themselves to being exposed to guerrilla warfare all the way to their deaths and torture by demons?
You must be moronic if you don't grasp this. Apparently the writers didn't grasp it either, which is why Kingmaker is written better than this bullshit.
Her terrible ideas have exactly the result you'd expect, though. The Crusade suffers heavy losses and nearly loses invaluable artefacts due to her boneheaded march.
That part is nice, but not having at least a portion of the army desert outright seems like an overight. The fifth crusade, first started out of desperation as a last ditch effort to counter the demons gained forces from all over the world as momentum accumulated. Why wouldn't but the most devout (read:moronic) followers of the b***h queen ever march forwards without their patron? After all, Kenabres/Drezdn has been contained and further peril to the neighbouring countries would have been put under control.
I think people probably didn't want to rock the boat too much given how much progress the crusade had made at that point. If you were closer to saving the world from demons than you'd ever been, would you jeopardize it because your commander changed?
The troops were still on a high from claiming Drezen and were overconfident. Many were still more loyal to Galfrey than the KC, but at the end of the day they probably thought they had divine intervention from Iomade to win the war and thought they were invincible.
And Galfrey was an insecure b***h; no surprise she gave those orders
Funny thing is, even if you play as the goodest of good while being an Angel and Herald of Iomedae supporting you and suggesting her to rethink, she still does that.
She literally goes against every logical reason not to just suddenly force you into the Abyss and barely can be convinced to not take away your leadership even with an Angel supporting you.
She is a moron.
She sends you to the Abyss to stop the spread of the N crystals which ultimately helps win the war. She might have had ulterior motives for doing it but it wasn't a bad decision.
And if we were stuck in the Abyss for just like a few more days, there would hVe been no war to win.
I honesrly believe if we didn't jump into the Abyss with all the most powerful in the Crusade and actually thought things out, we would have been way more successful.
Yes, but framing it as a punitive assignment alongside attempting to strip your rank robs it of any good intention. The Hand even calls her out on her pettiness if you've met all the good path conditions.
made for big lich bone
>Play lawful evil lich
>Stay true to my word on everything, trying to kill the demons since I just want to sit around doing lich things
>Roastie destroys my armies after sending me to the abyss, constantly get attacked by my own people, constantly forced to kill people and raise them as undead slaves because THEY WON'T STOP TRYING TO BACKSTAB ME AND WON'T JUST FIGHT THE FRICKING DEMONS
Lich run was a lot of fun. I don't know how the hell Owlcat went from multiple mythic paths feeling distinct and flavorfully coloring the whole campaign to Rogue Trader where nothing matters
for some reason devs just give a frick more in certain games. owlcat has never given it their all like they did in kingmaker
This is one reason I appricated Regill so much. Its actually really fricking refreshing to have a RPG companion whose pragmatic to a fault. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only Mythic Path he has a legitimate problem with is Demon, for obvious reasons. He'll even work with Azata, which is the complete opposite of his Alignment and will mostly just be annoyed by them.
Dude was fricking solid and dependable.
Mythic path has nothing to do with it, you just need to avoid doing things he dislikes during his questline
Which for the record makes no sense if you're playing demon, but that's how it is
Because Wrath was an extremely localized problem of apocalyptic proportions, RT was essentially business as usual for a frontier sector of space and you were pursuing the plot as a matter of pride mostly. There’d technically be nothing wrong with your RT using his stupid fricking money to frick off to some pleasure palace for the rest of his life
She's just having a perpetual woman moment.
>fail to save the world multiple times
>put some nobody loser in charge to see if they can do it
>they actually can and are doing a better job
>get butthurt and banish them to the demon realm
>destroy everything they built and run off to get killed
>they come back from plowing buttholes across a demon capitol
>they unfrick everything AGAIN and save the world after killing literal gods
>still assmad they're better
One of the most realistic depictions of women ever written.
best part is she becomes a house wife for the MC after.
>My 200 hedge knight stack gone
FRICK YOU INCOMPETENT c**t.
She lost my wizard army.
She somehow manage to get my 300+ stack of Wizards, all of them who knew Firaball, killed.
How can you lose all those Wizards women?
Got mogged by the other girls.
She must pay for her crimes.
imagine feeling her ancient fossilized hymen crack under the pressure of your penis
I want to like this game, but I dropped it at the start of chapter 2. The sheer number of mob encounters was to much for me..
good call, it was going to get WAY worse later on.
being best girl
She watched the new hotness take back more ground in a few months than she'd managed to pull in over a century.
>Queen Garfield
No lasagna I guess?
Liches be b***hing
thats why i like devil path
>turn sarkosis into satellite client state of Chelax (known debialogists and enslavers)
>crusades are hyjacked by church of Asmodeus, and contain devils that dont even try to hide fact what they are
>get announced as devil-saint in Asmedian church, become high ranking devil/duke 2nd most powerful archdevil
>galfrey shits up because she worst paladin in history and in my head canon lost connection with Iomade due letting crusade and large chuck of country fall under Asmodeus influence.
I like that you can punish her in lich, aeon, demon paths as well (i know you can just eat her in swarm path, and i didnt completed azata, angel, dragon paths so someone tell me if you can punish her there also)
congratulations you just listed out 90% of the devil path content.
i still can't believe they cut the galfrey slave contract. i will never forgive starrok
Devils in PF are pretty kino I agree. I still prefer "crusade hijack by way of lich", though.
Sadly OwlBlack folk made Devil the weakest mythic path by far and with the least fun mechanics to boot.
tbh i played as 10 armiger/10 hellknight Aeon->devil and retained aeon immunities wre cool but devils "attacks count as lawful/evil & immunty to fire" already overlapped too much with hellknights attacks as lawful, immune to fire as long as youre wearing armor and weapom axiomatic/evil/fire burst at will. all other spells as abilities & decrees were fun but i agree, overall it was kinda letdown compared to other mythic paths (mechanical power wise).
story wise, i enjoyed for what it was and how they portrayed devil. i wish there was "archmage" or something similar path that would be suited for wizard that wishes to master magic but dont become lich/bug/other. (martial story is more suited for martial character, storywise & mechanics wise imo to count as proper archmage)
Legend path is more suited for martial character*
Mostly. Legend does allow you to go into mystic theurge and be the master of arcane and divine magic.
is there a reason go go mystic theurge instead of going 20/20 into a divine and arcane caster?
Honestly, I wouldn't know. I just did it because I could.
I think you can pump up your caster level higher. Going 15 Cleric/15 Wizard/10 MT leaves you at 25 CL in both instead of 20.
You could probably make some sort of powerful spellsword with both arcane & divine spellcasting but ever since Legend got uncapped number of martial attacks I dont think itd be worth it over just going unga bunga with your 200 BAB
You're still missing on the mythic feats/abilities that help casters a lot
Yes + your companions dont get their last few mythic levels as well so cumulatively its a lot to give up
It is pleasing as a pure Martialtard
20 Two Handed Fighter/20 anything with mutagen is pretty fun
No dick in over 50 years
Are there mods for WoTR?
Yes install this and then pick and choose.
https://github.com/Pathfinder-WOTR-Modding-Community/ModFinder
So how did the Demon War last for centuries? I know the main settlements on the human side were guarded by wardstones, but surely humanity didn't simply sit in the cities for decades not fighting, fight? They surely fought the demons, and if so, how long were these campaigns?
For example, the Commander's (the player character) campaign from the beginning of the game to the end is like 3 years. Would normal campaigns have been longer? shorter? and what would be the win / lose conditioning for a campaign? Retake "x" city? What would be the point when captured territory wouldn't have a wardstone to prevent demons from teleporting to it. Assassinate "x" demon enemy? Did they even know the name of any key demons aside from the demon lords.
>So how did the Demon War last for centuries?
It didn't, it lasted like a century
>They surely fought the demons, and if so, how long were these campaigns?
https://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Mendevian_Crusades
Nurah tells you about all the previous crusades if you ask her
Never tried taste a BBC
sex with Ember
Based
Now make a comic where she's smilling through the rape and convinces swarm kc to stop being a murderhobo and turns him into a housewife (male). You know that's more in character for ember.
>smilling through the rape
She'd already be mindbroken by then. When you meet her on the Swarm path she's crying
Swarm bro should start Commissioning his Swarm raping the Rogue Trader companions and major NPCs. Make his rape multiversal after achieving godhood.
Do it yourself, homosexual.
Surprised there's no romance mod for her
Because she's a autistic child. You would just be better off modding in your own waifu.
DLC when?
mid to late summer
I wanna smooch her.
made to be gutted and left in a dirty basement
my CUTE and STRAIGHT serial killer wife!
what do you figure the Imperial Death Cult Assassin is just going to be Lesbian Camellia because Owlcat is desperately going to appease the dykes?
Owlcat has literally never made a single gay/lesbian character with the sole exception of Sosiel who was already gay in the AP, stop looking for things to cry about, the DLC characters are going to be bisexual as they have always been
Also she's going to be trash either way so it doesn't matter
>Bisexual
So she's going to be remembered as lesbian Camellia?
Honestly the mechanics in this game was way too complicated, and on higher difficulties the game basically forces you to minmax, otherwise you ain't doing shit with all the AC and saves the enemies get.
There's also no reliable online source, and the only guy who makes non-trivial videos for it is some bald russian high from smoking pot.
what's that, anon? you don't like fextralife? owlcat's offical wiki?
It kinda sucks
>3 years later
>Still has a bunch of blank pages, or worse yet, "template" pages that don't have any actual information in them and just link to a bunch of other pages that may or may not have the info you're looking for
>All while having a gorillion fricking elements that need to be filtered out by ublock
>Including the always-changing twitch embed on the left
I fricking hate fextralife so much, and I hate the israelite rat frickhead that uses these wikis as his primary revenue source
That's every fextra wiki, it fricking blows ass
Maybe if they made less templates and just incrementally updated the damn thing, it wouldn't be complete shit
How did they trick Owlcat into making it their official wiki?
>Trying to play a Pathfinder game on the higher difficulties without knowing how to play Pathfinder
Kinda your own fault, anon.
I swear to god people just try to play at higher difficulties as a way to brag and then b***h and cry when they get wrecked.
Just finished Kingmaker at normal mode and it was a breeze for the most time. I don’t remember almost no boss after the Troll King which lasted more than a couple rounds. Needed no minmax dipping bullshit even when I raised the difficulty halfway through.
As a complete noob, it was a very interesting learning process. Now I feel confident about trying Harder modes.
But if you go by internet discourse, even Normal mode with -2AC on enemies and 80% damage is unforgiving and Armag is unbeatable somehow. People refuse to read rules in an RPG and complain their lovely 2h weapon Guts-copy OC can’t tank 18 attacks every round
Certainly seemed like it. I played Pathfinder as a TRPG before the games came out, so I knew the system well enough that I could play on Challenging, but the number of dipshits getting filtered by the fricking Spider Cave at launch was comical.
>the mechanics in this game was way too complicated
It's literally just simplified pathfinder. People play this shit against each other calculating shit by hand irl, and you find it too complex in a pc game?
They do but they read whole books before doing that.
You don’t think most brainlets picking up an RPG after BG3 are prepared for anything other than just putting points in their main stat and hoping every combat turns out okay, do you?
>they read whole books before doing that
The books are mostly just extra options, the core rulebook has like 95% of the combat rules.
>You don’t think most brainlets picking up an RPG after BG3 are prepared for anything other than just putting points in their main stat and hoping every combat turns out okay, do you?
I don't, but why would you calibrate the top difficulties to cater to them? That's what normal is for.
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a difficulty setting called "unfair" to require munchkinism.
Even Normal with no enemy debuffs (ac, stats, damage) offers a decent difficulty.
But I still don’t get why people go for harder modes, even higher tuned than “core” rules and expect their wishwashy 9str melee Fighter perform better than shit. I mean, if they’re so dumb they can’t figure out basic rules, they’re dumb enough to complain the hardest available difficulty requires optimization and game knowledge.
I don’t care much for minmaxxing and abusive dips so I stick to difficulties tuned around normal and core and it’s mostly fine. People also forget there is a custom difficulty option as well.
>I don’t care much for minmaxxing and abusive dips so I stick to difficulties tuned around normal and core and it’s mostly fine.
Protip: hard and unfair are only hard at the very beginning. You can easily avoid bullshit dips and unimmersive minmaxxing if you just turn the difficulty up once you hit level 5 or thereabout.
the game is a massive flavor fail with its rollercoaster of difficulty God level strength random smilodons trouncing everything, epic random encounters where you're in a canyon with a gibrileth omnigod with 50 AC full attack reach and +50 to initiative that somehow always rolls 20 that outright rapes nenio forcing a reload or just eating res scrolls, that one maximum elder god tier demon noble kineticist that full charges a maximizd empowered projectile at literally anyone and deletes them in some random corner of Alushinyrra, vavakia vanguard.
Meanwhile the real act bosses are absolute wimps
>Minagho is the designated instant loss so technically you're the boss of that fight here
>Nulkineth does fricking nothing and gets eaten by his own ghouls
>Staunton is a cutscene fight
>Xantir actually poses a threat when he turns into a bunch of swarms, for 1 or 2 rounds max
>Hey Darrazand is that a repurposed playful darkne-
>Baphomet cutscene cheats but dies anyways because Nocticula cheats harder
>Herald of the Inheritor gets chunked in 1 turn by literally any party composition
>Deskari's hardest moment in the fight is trying to click on the damn purple crystal because his ass is so fricking large I can't see shit
>vavakia vanguard
>Areelu "50% miss chance 90 casts of lvl 9 spells" Vorlesh is barely hanging in there in the final boss worthy tier, and you only have to eat 50% of her HP to trigger some instant defeat dialog because you really are done with this game at this moment and you just want it to end
The only fun this game's difficulty offers are the "secret" bosses
The secret bosses are easy too, every single encounter in this game is defined by how well you prebuff, and maybe a dispel magic too
sure
>Mark of justice + 50 creeping doom
But I'm referring to the flavor of the difficulty, you don't notice enemies getting tougher or smarter, they just pop in to get ground to dust and randomly one or another enemy is more dangerous than the worldwound and then suddenly you're back to grinding demons left and right. Yeah I know, mythic powers power fantasy n shit, but a random demon in a random ambush encounter should not have more AC than literal mythic crystal buttplug wearing superdemons. Or Blackwater. Frick Blackwater. And frick Blackwater again for not giving you the option to control the device to use its nanomachines as a mecha swarm to eat deskari's bugs, that shit would rock so hard.
>Frick Blackwater
was there some special strategy you were supposed to use? I just slammed my head into the brick wall and beat down every enemy and coup de grace'd them because they wouldn't die when their hp reached zero
Not really. Protection From / Resistance To Element (Electricity), turn off the forcefield, and pummel him into the fricking dirt. Though I've heard a Wand of Dimension Door lets you bypass the forcefield entirely and skip straight to the shitstomping.
>Dimension Door
You can summon shit right next to them, assuming your summoner can take the projectiles.
It does. Only real use for DD in the game that I found.
you what? 3000 hours of playtime and I always ate a fricking sunbeam with guaranteed blind on a bunch of characters before shitstomping the autist.
the wide range of experiences people have in blackwater is because you get to go there early in act 3 but the encounters are balanced around late act 3
It was one of the last places I went to and I stomped the boss in two turns, the cyborgized mooks gave me more trouble to be honest
on harder difficulties greater dispel is mandatory once you get to the midnight fane and beyond
you can brute force everything else up until playful darkness
mirror image is such aids
>because his ass is so fricking large I can't see shit
kek
actually poses a threat when he turns into a bunch of swarms, for 1 or 2 rounds max
so how do you deal with swarms?
I had to ember firestorm the shit out of the area
>so how do you deal with swarms?
you stay the frick away from them and cast AoE spells. They're incredibly slow and easy to kite. Or just grab a kineticist and watch as swarms become a non-issue.
higher than core never seemed like fun to me, but if core is too hard or complicated you might be too dumb.
>Only Lich and Angel can merge spellbooks
It's not fair.
Aeon doesn't? I thought that was one of their tricks as well.
All the other paths that don't merge have ball buster late game spells to compensate (Trick Fate, Abyssal Storm, Zone of Predetermination, Second Breath) but they just come online 40 hours after lich and angel are done one shotting the entire game with their super spells that they get at level fricking 11. There are mods to fix that of course, but that comes with its own problems (stigmatized witch doesn't merge with trickster despite witch merging, Second Breath restores its own spell slot if you merge with azata, Demon becomes a slightly weaker Angel)
Other paths don't really need it.
Demon Casters can get an insanely high DC on their spells and they can also cast 3 spells per a round.
Azatas can reroll the DCs on their spells if an enemy beats them (Persistent Magic) and they can also turn their single target spells into AoE spells with Zippy Magic
Aeon Casters have an insanely high DC on their dispel and they can also force their enemies to roll 11s on their saves, which is actually really fricking good for eliminating rng in battle.
A Demon Illusionist Wizard or a Hiddeous Laughter + Zippy Magic + Persistent Magic Enchanter may not be as flashy, but it'll still rape every enemy on the battlefield -- bosses included
Swarms have theoretically infinite DCs due to swarm level increasing spell DCs and they have the highest mental and physical stats in the game. Effectively you get all your party slots x2 spells that you can cast before the demons even get a turn.
Furthermore, if you really wanted to, you can slap a full melee kit on one clone and use transformation to give them a full martial's attack with a 50 ft melee range.
Oh and you aren't reliant on a glitch/exploit to do this.
I missed taking undead Staunton with me when I chased Minnago through hell. Did I miss any goof dialogue between them?
she's my wife
my 100+ year old wife
That's so HECKING funny xD
BAZINGA!
baphomet exists to be bullied
>Tries to paint himself as the rival to Asmodeus
>Azzy laughs his diabolical ass off when he hears he got permakilled by a mortal
>kill Baphomet for good in the secret ending
>Asmodeus has a good chuckle about it
>What was her problem?
woman
she does ask the right questions
Even on Golarion, the appeal of fluffy tail is undeniable.
>Nenio has flat 0 knowledge (planes) even with a three digit intelligence score
Makes sense given her background
I ship those two
It would be an alu-demon, presumably a celestial one instead of a fiendish one
Written by idiots, for idiots, in a game full of unlikable idiot NPCs.
But hey, you can autism about your unique dickweaver/unicorn cavalier/anal voreologist/semen alchemist/snowflake build.
>running anal voreologist and semen alchemist when they both give you semen resist and it doesn't stack
come on anon
>enemy are prebuffed with permanent duration spells and abilities
>give myself the same ability with mods
>game becomes 10x more bearable
Not interested in metagame save scumming just to clear encounters
That's fair.
Buffstacking is a pretty lame by-product of pathfinder's mechanics.
What’s a fun class to play in this game?
Also is the crusade gameplay supposed to be dogshit because I hate it and just cheated to give me 1000k troops because I hate it
i like the melee warrior types
magic is so annoying to use
with melee u just bonk and i think the party lacks a dedicated tank anyways
Cavalier is fun if you like deleting enemies from your hard drive on charges. As for crusade mode, just hire a mage general and blow your enemies the frick up.
woman
>tabletop pathfinder
>The Mantis God is one of the first creatures the gods ever created, designed for the explict purpose of killing demigods
>is outright immune to being killed by creatures who aren't demigods or stronger
>has a permanent dispell magic auro with a radius of 360 feet and can create Gates as an move action
>with a challenge rating of 30, this monster is intended to fight a party of max-level (or near max) PCs
>46 AC
vs
>wrath of the righteous video game
>random mook
>you'll fight multiple of these in a typical encounter
>60 AC lmao
you could merc that b***h as you are a demigod with mythic power
While true, that's not really the point.
I was pointing out how random unnamed enemies in WoTR are stronger than top-tier threats in the tabletop.
A PC game inherently has to up the ante because players have little reason to not minmax the frick out of their characters on top of being able to reload if shit goes awry. A DM would probably similarly buff enemies if he was even allowing players to blatantly minmax and a failed encounter could still spell the end of the campaign.
An easier analogy to get your point across would be the demon lord, Deskaris.
He has 47 AC and he's an endgame boss in the tabletop campaign. Ingame, 47 AC is the AC of an Owlbear or mid tier bandit...for some strange reason.
>those minotaur evocators in the second set of midnight isles dungeons that cast two siroccos, cones of cold, waves of ecstasy, or chain lightnings per turn
I've never been more angry in my life
For me, its the carnivorous crystal packs with a dozen of DC 40 permastun auras to pass and if you kill one they split into two stronger and larger versions because that makes sense.
>It's a cast web and alt+tab until Lann passes one of the 10 saves per round with a nat 20 and pelts 6000 HP/20DR to death alone episode.
There's even a nahyndrian superboss of these crystals in the angel path which is somehow easier than the multiple crystal encounters. Jeez I wonder why.
I also thought those were the most bullshit enemies I had yet encountered but then I realized they only have 1 dexterity so any non-mind affecting spell that reduces dex like polar ray, polar midnight, bestow curse, or plaguestorm one shots them
colossal skill issue thats what
Nothing except sucking I guess.
We can't all have dicks as big as mine.
Her incompetence goes beyond your mary sue main character powers
She didn't get enough dick in her life.
what's the pathfinder equivalent of katana kensai
Sword Saint
Frick it. I'll reinstall, what's a good class in this again? My go-to is usually rogue but I wanna try cleric. Thank god it's not as cucked as it is in pathfinder 2e
Also did they fix the reddit kitsune or is she still an annoying c**t?
>Also did they fix the reddit kitsune or is she still an annoying c**t?
She never was, the problem was always you, boy.
>Also did they fix the reddit kitsune or is she still an annoying c**t?
I don't know what you expect, do you think they're going to rewrite an entire fricking character? Just tell her annoying ass to frick off the first time you meet her
The ego hurting one is Iomedae, Galfrey is a fricking moron that outright goes out of her way to frick everything up
She broke your power fantasy, and it hurt you to your very core.
You will never get over how badly you were hurt by her words.
You get angry.
You curse the world every day that you, the all mighty and all powerful super saiyan mega commander, got demoted.
You will never forgive her for this.
You will fantasize everyday about killing her for daring to do something other than kiss your feet.
You are a complete fricking loser.
>betray the person whose be hard carrying the crusades after hiring them
>person is understandably fricking upset
>NOOOOOOOOOO, UR JUST HECKIN FRAGILE
I took the bait, because this is an impressive level of moronation.
you don't need to fantasize
You do know that you can kill her, let her get killed, kill her and rise her as undead or just simply make her look like an old gay in game right?
(Plus you don't get demoted if you are an Angel.)
>Be the most successful general the crusade has ever had
>Do what she couldn't do in decades of trying in a few months
>She is so salty she sends me off to die
>Come back and lose my position because I made a drunk guy king of the tavern
It has nothing to do with power fantasy, it is just that she is clearly written to be unlikable.
Woman moment
Even best bro Herald calls her a moron on Angel path and so you nominally are still the commander but still have to hop into the abyss
in the adventure path since you don't want a main character in a cooperative game it makes more sense since those super demons are fricking people up hard
Weird question, but after playing Kingmaker I got to ask. Are Naga in Pathfinder always giant snakes with human heads, or are their also "humanoid snake people" type of Naga's? Either way, I think having more non-bipedal companions in these type of games would be cool.
>carry weight affects character movement
>pick up 9999 tons of garbage
>out of combat movement slows to a crawl
>in combat movement is completely unchanged
>this shit is literally just useless busywork
>toggle it off
>difficulty goes from core to custom
>you can just waste 10 minutes dropping gear on the ground and collect each time you zone transition anyways
why implement this shit? Who enjoys this shit?
In D&D Nagas are snakes with human head and are very powerful. the humanoid snake people are usually the yuan-ti, with varying degrees of snek in them. The lamia looking ones are called yuan-ti abominations. I don't know if they're in pathfinder though.
If you don't kill her in act 5 you're moronic
Unless you fix her with your big commander wiener.
>sexing a hag
Hard pass
i like how nersoyan can ask you to be their king when you're the one who kills her
>i like how nersoyan can ask you to be their king when you're the one who kills her
is that a dlc thing
it's a legend thing
No, you just need to stay in Drezen and not be on an evil path
She's a dumb spiteful old woman masquerading as a hero jealous of the fact that someone is doing a better job than she is.
>commander is doing a better job than me and people like him more
>better send him to go get killed even if it means all my people die to demons
My WIFE.
even tho it's hard to justify bringing her if you're playing a good character
Look, I am someone who really doesn't give a frick about her actions but god damn she is moronic.
You anons can do better than her.
>You anons can do better than her.
Oh? Who do you mean?
>inb4 fricking Camellia
>but god damn she is moronic
Pic related. I love that she's dumber than a bag of rocks.
Sorry, anon, I'm weak to evil spider ladies who end up on the side of good. It's just how I'm built.
She is moronic but I can fix her.
There's no way to fix Daeran by just being bros, right? I absolutely have to romance him ?
unironically a woman moment, and she even admits that in the end if you let her live
>are the best girls in their respective game
>can't romance them
What the FRICK is wrong with Owlcat??
Why do they like blue balling their players like that???
This, but book midget instead.
Amiri is based, though.
>Any creature killed hellfire ray must attempt a Will saving throw; failure means the creature’s soul is damned to Hell as a burst of brimstone appears around its corpse. A nonevil spellcaster attempting to bring the creature back from the dead must attempt a caster level check (DC = 10 + the slain creature’s level) to succeed; failure means the spellcaster cannot try again for 1 day. Evil spellcasters can raise the slain character normally, without requiring a check. A raised character’s soul is no longer automatically consigned to Hell.
Ember????
she was lawful the entire time
>There are no Gods tee hee hee
>Now excuse me while I damn someone's soul for eternity 🙂
Maybe Hulrun was onto something burning this crazy b***h.
>There are no Gods
Try reading slower
She isn't there no god kind of atheist
She is the god are as flawed as we are if not more so we shouldn't rely on them and to be honest she is better than any Rahadoum
Twins Arue Cassia
Also the grass is always greener, you would be crying about someone else if one of those was a romance option anyway
Ember is a child.
>ember
the frick is wrong with you people. how many people actually want to frick ember?
Is this your first day here? Make Ember shorter and make her look more like a child and anons here would want to frick her even more
>best girl in WotR
>not pic related
????
>Supreme used goods
>Arue's pristine newly purified elysium pussy
>used
>purified
you can't purify it
it's tainted
it's over
Wrong
>best girl in WotR
>not the Fulsome Queen
lol
lmao
Imagine not going for the cute fighter mutant girl.
Wendy is dumb and gross, anon. Still like true love path, though.
I love this slavish based moron like you wouldn't believe.
Isn't there a soft redemption where you can make her neutral? I vaguely remember seeing that somewhere.
Her true love path eases her back a bit. Definitely nowhere close to good, and probably still on the south side of neutral, but it's a positive change.
She's just too stupid and mind broken. You have to hand wave so much just to keep her around. She was worse to me than dealing with Octavia, who is at least pretty.
I have the feeling that Argenta is hiding a massive fat ass under that armor. Like photoshop tier Instagram gyatt. I can't really explain why though.
Twins, Camellia, Cassia.
Can't decide between the Queen and the Succubus.
What about the Queen Succubus?
ember can fix her
>Wanting to romance the c**t that tries to get you killed
>Wanting to romance the c**t that manipulates you intending to kill you and laughs at you for believing her once you find out the truth
see
>Wanting to romance the c**t that manipulates you intending to kill you and laughs at you for believing her once you find out the truth
What can I say? Villainesses are hot as frick and I like the aesthetics of her palace/city.
It still strange they didn't give her brother a portraits i know that he doesn't have a official design but still
He literally does
What? Noc doesn't manipulate you. She wants you to get rid of her rivals because they are shitbags and I agreed that they were shitbags and dumpstered them.
An entire section dedicated to you finding out that Nocticula intended to kill you to close the worldwound while you were none the wiser about it and you still say this.
>Nocticula intended to kill you to close the worldwound
Pretty sure her plan was always to sacrifice Areelu for that. If she changes her target to you, that has to be a backup plan and a rushed one because by that point you're too strong for that.
>Pretty sure her plan was always to sacrifice Areelu for that
The opposite she had no idea that Areelu would work too, you think she would waste her time with you if she did? The instant Areelu admits that she can be used to close the worldwound Nocticula immediately tries to capture her, but Areelu runs away
Succubus. Ever plowed someone so hard that a goddess threw you a bouquet when you finished?
What class should I play?
Paladin.
Depends, what mythic path are you going?
Dunno. I did trickster last time but I was kinda bored with it.
Is the dragon one fun?
>Is the dragon one fun?
Never played it. I heard it's powerful gameplaywise but weak storywise aside from the ending.
lmao
No, it has no content, and what little of it there is fricking sucks.
What's a fun one then?
Do you want to be evil or good?
Either's fine. If I had to make a choice then I'd be good.
Then play angel, the main path
uh oh troony getting mad at me
1. is the only correct response to that insubordination.
swarm that walks is pretty weak story wise, but is still one of my favorite mythic paths
eating all of the morons is very cathartic, and you gain access to the best companions in the game - yourself
To be fair, when you become real bug smut fetishist, I don't blame them.
Swarm is objectively stupid, like inviting the Zerg to stop aloen invaders. Or worse since the Swarm lacks the sexy female design.
Golden Dragon is a meme path but the moment you chose it and shine so bright that even a goddess has to squint was kino.
>Being such a paragon of goodness and power that you can actually fix the Worldwound, because you're a goddamn gold dragon and basically Iomedae is fricking stupid
It's pretty great.
Some people are just not meant to be leaders. She'd probably be a decent right hand, but not an actual commander.
She is either stupid or blind.
Half the guys she gives you to help and support the Crusade are either traitors or imcompetent.
What videogame is she from? What the frick are you all talking about?
READ
THE
FRICKING
THREAD
Black personCOPE DOT GAME
Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous
Wrath of the Righteous, anon.
>incel game
Not interested. I'm out. Bye losers. Enjoy your shit thread.
ok? i didnt invite you
>wenduaggays
Unironically imagine the smell
>Wenduag my beloved
>I will be home soon
>Don't bathe
Why did Owlcat make Hulrun white?
because he ebil hwhite mane
He's not even evil and he can come back later on and assist you
>why is the head of the police-equivalent white
Given that in the adventure model he was both black and a corpse (he died in the initial attack with Terendelev), it's weird that they would make such a blatant change.
He was mega based all d*snacucks belong on a pyre
About to start an Angel Cavalier run. Any must have / cool mods aside from toybox?
bubble buffs
>What was her problem?
She needed wiener in her c**t and pussy on her face.
After doing angel & azata I think Meph was the hardest boss for me. Huge AC and spell resistance, penetrating fire spells and also that you can face him at around level 17 or 18 even I think.
How's the other path's bosses? I've heard Nocticula is also hard as hell, and what about the Aeon devil?
>Random encounter in act 1
>A fricking succubus with a DC 21 dominate and godly dexterity
>A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three
>A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three
>A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three
>A half fiendish galaxy size centipede with 29 strength and +12 to hit at level fricking three
TWENTY FRICKING NINE STRENGTH HOW IS DEFENDER'S HEART STILL STANDING WITH THESE MOTHERFRICKERS CRAWLING ALL OVER THE PLACE?
Yeah combat in this game is a meme with the massive stat bloat i got tired of spamming buffs and taking moronic dips so i just play on normal now
is last azlanti even fun with the massively moronic stat bloat and luck abuse in the early acts? especially in unfair? This game's "core" is a half-assed attempt to be like the tabletop game.
Last azlanti just sounds stupid as frick in 100+ narrative game just to lose everything in some random fight 60 hours in and now you have to redo the story all over again.
>the tavern defense fight
I was getting shat on so bad that I just had to BoT to give myself all 20s and the enemies all 1s. I could NOT fricking do that after like 6 attempts.
>turn-based takes forever
>rtwp is a shitshow
I can do it with no real issue but it's never fun.
>did the tavern fight on turn based once
>took me over an hour
>did it again on rtwp
>took me 5 minutes
what the frick
yeah but it's a pain in the dick to manage the alchemists that roll in playing rtwp
needing a good dicking and I was more than happy to oblige.
>Game has some of the most satisfying build autism imaginable
>Nearly every level up feels exciting and fun
>Lots of weird, unique gear to find and use
>Tons of party builds that can be made, mythic paths that give very different skills and styles of play, some even give super unique companions and interactions
>But the game itself is bloated to all hell and back with tons of pointless busywork, traveling, backtracking, tacked on crusade mechanics, and an even more bloated story that completely falls apart after the first act and was written with like two paths in mind and everything else is either a joke or underwritten
WotR is a game that is so ambitious but also just so flawed. The story sucks so bad, and the writing is not very good either, and that is a major problem in a CRPG where you start going hours and hours and hours without leveling up and you're killing your 10000th demon to get a tiny bit of XP because you just want to level up to feel something.
Wait until you realize that every build plays the same and most of the gear is useless (such as all those weapons with one gorillion unique effects that doesn't mean jack shit because the only thing that matters is reach and crit range)
What was the point of the swarm that walks
Hulrun romance when
Is it possibly to play a sort of "fallen hero" type paladin? Think Lorgar from 40k and you'll get the idea.
What the frick is this shit design
40k
sad
pathfinder has an anti-paladin class but it's not included and I don't think anyone bothered to make a CotW mod for path.
They did at least add a "I'm tired of this fricking war" Paladin variant with the last DLC, so there's that.
They should just make spellbook merging universal, with the missing spell tiers of the class drawing from the mythic spellbook.
>Is it possibly to play a sort of "fallen hero" type paladin?
You can go Azata or Aeon -> Devil
i hate azata, they are chaotic stupid, wanted to kill the damn idiots after they ported me into the lab
Feels like Angel, Demon, Lich are the only real paths to go.
Can't speak for Aeon because I never played it.
>Lich
lol no
with lich you gotta kill your significant one, also you get turned into a skeleton, would have prefered zombie or keep the greyed version
I can suspend my belief that the Crusade would accept a Necromancer or justify using the demon's own powers against them.
I can't see people following an Azata as they are portrayed in this game.
>Azata as they are portrayed in this game
i could, if the azata was winning
I know Ganker is mindbroken by azata but imagine actually and unironically thinking that it's more logical to follow a literal demon over the standard CG dude
>over the standard CG dude
Azata is chaotic stupid, not chaotic good. But I 100% agree with you. No crusader is following a demon commander in a holy war versus demons.
>Literally has an entire subpath where you act too chaotic and everything goes wrong and everyone dies because of how moronic you were
>And another path where you temper yourself and everything goes right
nah
>everyone dies because of how moronic you were
i assuming thats trickster path ?
>temper yourself and everything goes right
Legend ?
No, azata uses a point system to determine if you get the good or bad outcomes, and the bad one involves being way too chaotic to the point that your soldiers can't even obey the most basic of orders which ends up getting them all killed
>chaotic stupid, not chaotic good
they're not. the goal of the azata path is being chaotic good, not chaotic stupid. if you choose to be chaotic stupid you'll get the bad ending
One is a Brutal Warlord that could be considered a particularly ugly tiefling, something unfortunately common in thr worldwound.
The other is running off to have tea and cookies with their dragon and mimic friends while the soldiers are dying on the frontlines.
Azata is sometimes cool but often not.
>soldiers are dying on the frontlines
They're also in the front lines. These little chads saved my ass about 3 times.
>particularly ugly tiefling
The crusaders are aware that you're turning into a demon, that's why they talk shit about you
>The other is running off to have tea and cookies with their dragon and mimic friends while the soldiers are dying on the frontlines
Azata walks around doing the exact same quests every mythic path does, with the azata questline being focused on you recruiting people for the "free crusaders" which basically amounts to building an army
I think the main mythic path that is missing from the game is a nature focused one. Azata is the closest we get to that.
I still don't get why we don't have a magical Archmage path. I don't want to go to the bone zone and become a Lich for magic.
The only notable archimages are the Dead god and the storyteller
So how much is the commander really themselves once they become a swarm?
You still have your soul but you're no longer human, you're just a mesh of locusts in a humanoid shape until later on.
sex with Nurah Dendiwhar
too cowardly.
who? owlkek?
Yes, but CRPG devs in general.
Swarm or you complained of running out of Ideas, my suggestion is you move on to Commissioning works of Owlcat's characters in general.
What did your money finally dry up lol?
She should have been Devil path companion/romance where you give her slave girl corrections.
She needed rape correction so bad but the gays at Owlcat just wouldn't deliver.
i wanted to romance the spidercat, but gets annoying fast ,doesshe gets a happy ending with MC ? a house in the woods with lots of childrens and handholding ?
also is worth to replay it ? my first run made a goody-two-shoes aasimar Kineticist with angel path and romanced of course the sucubus
>doesshe gets a happy ending with MC ?
she offers you the heads of her enemies
so yes
dont she abandons you in every ending ??
Is their Warhammer game still shit? I pirated on release and it was awful.
wait for the dlc
Bugs are mostly fixed. I pirated the latest version and finished the game twice.
So it is at least playable now, I might try it again.
At release chapter 4 was literally unplayable.
She thought she was the best at her job, turns out as per usual, she wasnt.
I really tried this game after having a blast with Rogue Trader, and ended up uninstalling it after the queen handed me the reign. It's just doesn't click with me I guess. Characters are not particularly likeable, and their portraits are just plain ugly. The only one I like is probably the half lizard half demon guy you met in prologue I intended to TND in the first place. Cool guy. Also Lesbian orc.
why did she start seething about Arue in the midnight fane? Can't she sense good and evil with her paladin powers?
It wasn't actually about Arue being a succubus, she was just looking for any point to make against you.
Because she was jealous
Got brutally mogged by a succubus with better looks and support from a goddess than hers. that succ also gets to hang around KC and kill demons while you just sit on your throne and listen to konomi blast your ears with politics 24/7. plus Arue has a bigger rack
strongest belt buckle in golarion
In her defense, Arue should still ping as Evil to her Paladin powers due to it being part of her creature Template. She's made out of elemental evil, basically.
in the tabletop she gets stunned for a round at the beginning of combat
she wants your angelic dick anon
i wanted to make a female Oread but i couldnt find any good portrait or pic to make one
beside the terrible buff stacking requirements, forced mythic path qol picks for duration, and emphasis on bullrushing through encounters on RTwP,
the fricking shittiest thing in this game are the movement rules
WHY CANT I MOVE FIVE FEET AND TAKE AN ACTION?
LET ME FRICKING MOVE OWLCAT
and
WHY ARE THE CANTRIPS SO FRICKING BAD