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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >blaspheMID
    >mid knight
    >midstained
    Miss me wit allem

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only played Hollow Knight and Bloodstained.
    HK>BS
    BS is a decent Igavania but it doesn't have as much soul as the DS games. It's still one of the things I'd wish I'd have more of it, instead of less.
    But the same goes for HK.

    Is Blasphemous any good?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's got great art and cool lore. Remember to donate to the church if you play it so you can fast travel between shrines. Doing the base game without the post update content should take you around 10 to 12 hours for both ending a and b. You do need to play ng + to get the true perfect ending though.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I got the perfect ending in a single run. You can see all of them with this single requirements:

        1. Get to Perpetvua's grave before fighting Esdras to save him.
        2. Get Esdras's key and find the true face below the golden tree at the library.
        3. Beat Isidora and Sierpes, get Mea Culpa's true heart.
        4. Beat Crisanta with the true heart equiped and free her from the Great Wills.

        There you stop. Now you can. Get all endings.

        Bad end: ignore Crisanta and go amd beat Escribar. You get the bad ending as your body turns into ash trying to reach the throne

        Normal ending: upgrade the thorn Deogracias gave you to it's full sin. You need to do a lot for that with the little rosary that "eats" your guilt everytime you die. Also destroy the statues that absolve your sins.

        Best Ending: go to Crisanta and get her Stigma. With the thorn of true sin from the normal ending you get the best ending.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      its the jankiest of the 3, not bad, just very heavy in terms of movement if you come from hollow knight, i find it really nice, amazing song, art and cool lore, but i know people who couldnt get pass the 2nd boss because apparently morons find it hard
      get it if you can if you enjoy the other two
      definitely play the first if you wanna try the 2nd because the story is nice aswell.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    HK > blasphemous 1 and 2 > bloodstained
    Didn't really like bloodstained. The combat felt dated in comparison. It felt like playing a 20 years old game running on top of a skin

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't that what people wanted to play, though? I found the gameplay exactly at the point where it should be. To me it was the level design that left much to desire.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        My problem with Bloodstained is the lack of responsiveness, yet the demand for precise inputs for specials.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >metroidsloppia

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he dropped the slop
      cheers to (you), based king

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is that a Rare Sloppe, my good Sir?

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    HK > dread > blasphemous 2 > shantae pirates curse > steamworod dig 2 > lodloss war > salt and sanctuary > blasphemous> bloodstained > aeterna noctis > morbid > moonscars

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dread?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, wow. I'm fricking stupid.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Man Dread is such a pretty game

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          There really is no feeling like going fast in a Metroid game. So glad that Dread wound up as fricking kino as it did. Really hope that they're already working on a sequel.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Y losh piratas de Curse of the Sea Rats? E pierdesh una joya tio!

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >steamworod dig 2
      Can I // should I skip 1? Doesn't seem to be as well received

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can buy you shouldn't, 1 is also decent but worse than 2 by far

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only one I've played is Bloodstained and I liked it enough to 100% the run I did of it.

    Only other Castlevania I've played is Aria of Sorrow.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ori and the Will of the Wisps > Hollow Knight > Ori and the Blind Forest > Blasphemous > Bloodstained

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodstained is my favorite of these three by a significant margin, Hollow Knight is great but I got tired out by it well before reaching the ending and the only thing I really like about Blasphemous is the aesthetic.

    My favorite newer Metroidvanias are Dread, Ori 2 and Steamworld Dig 2 though. A lot of recent examples in the genre are starting to borrow more and more from the Souls series and while those games are cool they're just not my thing. I like crazy movement upgrades and platforming and getting weapons that make me feel overpowered, which is something Bloodstained nailed even though the story, bosses and graphics left something to be desired.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Steamworld Dig 2
      Do you need to play the first one? I've heard it's not really a Metroidvania and okay but kind of a grind. Is that accurate?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need to, its easy enough to pick up on the story without it. It does inform the sequel though and it's not terribly long.

        What's interesting about Dig 1 is how it takes a really simplistic mobile game/flash game format and evolves it into a proper adventure game, it has way more depth and much more intrigue than I ever expected. But that made it a fun game to pick away at on my 3DS while traveling, not something really worth sitting down in front of your computer or TV to play if you just want to get to the sequel.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is the sequel significantly better?

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    shit
    shit
    shit

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dust: An Elysian Tale >>>>>>>> Guacamelee >>>>>>>> Bloodstained >>> Blasphemous >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Metroid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hollow Knight

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    HK > Bloodstained
    Blasphemous is barely a metroidvania

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      the second one is more of a metroidvania than the first since it has more backtracking and unlocks but still doesn't have the traditional RPG stuff like leveling, stats and gear.

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow Knight > Bloodstained > Blasphemous
    Hollow Knight is easily the best of the three and is a phenomena for a reason. Great world design, setting, atmosphere, exploration, and combat content. Full of charm. It does have kind of a slow start but when it gets going it never stops. The biggest flaw is the lack of interesting mobility tools compared to Super Metroid, hopefully Silksong will fix that.
    Bloodstained doesn't quite hit the peak of IGAvania but I'd say it's mostly competent. My #1 problem is that it's aesthetically kinda ugly. Going from high-grade spritework to cheap looking 2.5D models was a huge downgrade. The enemy variety also suffers as a result, lots of reskins in the end-game. However in almost every other regard it feels like an IGAvania, in terms of controls and mechanics. I like that they took the biggest flaw of SotN (inverted castle) and made it a cool ability (invert), great way to salvage a seemingly bad idea.
    I only played the demo for Blasphemous but everything I've heard about the full game makes me think the devs didn't fix any of its issues, namely the jank controls and annoying platforming. I might play the sequel eventually.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Blasphemous has gotten 4~ full sized free DLC since the demo as well as mountains of updates and fixes. The movement and controls are far better, it's practically a different game from when it launched. 10~ hours to beat 50~ hours to 100%.
      My big gripe is the quality remains consistent throughout, which seems like a non-issue but it means there are no high points. From the very first screen to the very last screen the quality never dips or elevates.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        blasphemous has horrible movement and controls for anything other than boss combat. Platforming sucks in that game, especially when dealing with mobs

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        BoTW was like that for me. Not great but 300 hours of 7/10, which is real impressive when you think about it.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow Knight > Bloodstained > Blasphemous

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodstaines>>>hk>>>>>

    [...]

    Bloosdtaines is the only one that feels like an igavania, that is what I want.
    blasphemous feels like shit to play, don't like the movement it made me not finish the game

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which had better
    >combat
    >world
    >art direction and/or visuals
    >music and/or sound design

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd probably say Bloodstained had the best combat, though none of them are particularly good in that area imo.
      Hollow Knight is the best for the rest.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aquaria.

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous was hard in the start easy as frick after the first boss
    Hollow knight was gradually getting harder. Would have been perfect but getting the final ending involves completing boss rush against every boss in the game in one shot and just attempting it takes 30 to 50 minutes depending on skill and if you speed run, which is just actually impossible unless you commit a lot of time and practice into this.
    Bloodstain is easy and only gets easier if you invest time into it.
    I say hk > blasphemous = bloodstained

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous > Bloodstained > Hollow Knight

  18. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    what am I in for? already played the other two

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a lot like SotN and AoS. Just cheaper looking and with worse music.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        BS has some great music though

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you like Castelvania you'll enjoy it. Everything about it is basically Castlevania except for the name. It's ugly as frick though.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I adored AoS but I hated the changes they made in DoS, the fricking soul grinding and crafting system. Frick that shit. Would I enjoy Bloodstained or is it just more bullshit like that?

  19. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow knight is the better game but I enjoy the collectathon aspect of bloodstained a lot

  20. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    0
    10
    0

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Estosh no zdaben nada. Ya era hora de reconosher a Eshpaña como un paiszd hazdeor de buenosh juegodz.

  21. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Excellent art but stiff 7/10
    Far too slow 7/10
    Ugly dogshit 4/10

    I wish I liked Hollow Knight because everyone is always sucking it off but I bought it at the same time as Dead Cells and feels glacial in comparison.

  22. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow knight
    Blashpemous 1
    Bloodstained
    Blasphemous 2

    Blasphemous 1 currently holds the award for having the most interesting idea for a dungeon in a metroidvania and is yet to be beaten. HK still goated though.

  23. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow Knight is a legitimate 99/100 if you remove all DLC.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      and then once you add DLC, it's a 100/100

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only Grimm and I consider it an overall worse experience even if that's the best fight is the entire game. Everything else is just bloat and objectively terrible because they tried to pander to the "This is the Dark Souls of video games" homosexuals.

        The vanilla game is a perfectly contained experience to 100%

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      No it's not.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      and then once you add DLC, it's a 100/100

      White palace was not fun, more transporting the flower.

  24. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've played most of the games in this genre and Hollow Knight is so far beyond the rest that anyone saying it's worse than anything else has to be in complete denial. And I stayed away from HK for years due to all the fans on here and IRL.

    Hollow Knight is pretty much the GOAT of it's genre.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ender Lilies is way better

  25. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously where is it? It's just an indie game, not AAA game. At this rate this game will be three times bigger than HK

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody knows because the homosexual ass devs think it's le epic based to be 100% tight lipped about the game or release date
      i might even pirate the shit just to spite the homosexuals. it was cute like 2 years ago, now it's obnoxious

  26. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    all 3 are shit
    first one is fedoralord pretend souls pretend castlevania
    second one is peak reddit game, as usual aussies are incapable of any gamedev and should be shot if they ever attempt it
    third one is a meh castlevania wannabe that's uglier than your face

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Consignado corazón sea, Penitente en el silencio.

  27. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Besides Guacamelee and its shit combat, what metroidvanias have unarmed martial arts? I'm not kidding when I say the majority of my weapon choices in Bloodstained and Portrait of Ruin relied entirely on whether or not the special attack was the flying knee.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh shit I completely forgot about Valdis Story when typing this post out. Reina could casually delete the three secret endgame bosses in under a minute when speccing her into agility martial arts.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Reina unarmed feels disingenuous. I mean, being able to block and the starting equip and it's honestly no different than equipping a weapon.

        Wyatt unarmed is way more interesting, with the 4 stance system. Wyatt in general feels more fun than Reina to me.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          The thing is her kicks don't break guard until you actually level that up, and unlike other characters her kicks come out really fast in addition to her rising combo(attack then jump with anyone, for reina this is a somersault) so you can just stunlock the hell out of everyone.
          Add to that damage scaling for aerial attacks, the majority of her air spells giving her additional height, one of her ground spells being a doppelganger for extra damage and her extra mode having damage scaling based on the combo counter and Reina's the easiest of the four. I do agree Wyatt's stance system was neat but Valdis story wasn't the best game to make use of it.

  28. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Blasphemous just an acquired taste? Its art design and atmosphere was great but even two hours in combat and movement felt pretty sluggish and not very satisfying. I've genuinely yet to play a Souls game though and feel like I'm maybe missing something here.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      2d Soulslike games were never good. The art direction carries it hard

  29. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pizza Tower is way better than any of this slop

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of those are worth playing.

      And the warioland series is way better than pizza tower.

  30. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow Knight > Bloodstained > blasphemous

    I finished and somewhat enjoyed HK, but not enough to get the true ending or whatever, I finished Bloodstained but didn't quite enjoy it as much as I expected, I dropped Blasphemous because it was a plain and simple a shitty game.

  31. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous > Hollow Knight

    Haven't played Bloodstained. The only thing i can give HK over Blasphemous is movement. Still liked it very much, just enjoyed Blasphemous more.

  32. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Havnt played
    Extremely overrated
    Pretty good game

  33. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous is like an RPG character who put all their stats into Charisma and absolutely nothign else. Seriously the game looks and sounds amazing but the actual gameplay is total DOGSHIT

  34. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Astlibra Revision >>>>>> SotN > Ender Lilies > Rabi-Ribi > PoR > The Messenger > OoE > AoS > Death's Gambit > GRIME > Salt And Sanctuary > HK > DoS > Monster Sanctuary > Shantae pirate's curse > half genie hero > 7 sirens > Iconoclasts > Luna nights > Record Of Lodoss War > HunterX > Momodora 4 > Axiom Verge > Bloodstained > Sundered > Timespinner > Slophemous

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No La Mulana

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can't rank games I haven't played yet, while on that note, I forgot to include HoD and CotM between Bloodstained and Sundered.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          You should play it. It's one of the absolute bests. Brutally difficult without a guide though. If anything the game is mostly an effort in seeing just how much you can complete without a guide (I guarantee you'll need one a couple times)

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Messenger over most of these

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Messenger is great, it has the best mobility of pretty much any metroidvania.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find it weird no one talks about Team Ladybug's other games beyond Lodoss and Luna Nights.
      Yes the persona game was very mediocre but the konosuba game and pharaoh rebirth+ were excellent.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        There was a Persona game? I know they made an SMT game, the one where you play as Jack Frost.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          My bad, yes it was SMT.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see Valdis Story on that list, anon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Impressive how bad your taste is considering how many of those you played

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        He posted a Baki image that makes him a gigachad.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Astlibra Revision
      Never heard of this and just watched some footage. Is it all slimes? What's the appeal?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Is it all slimes
        No. The one you see is like pretty short section the whole game.
        >What's the appeal?
        Fun combat, engaging story, decent amount of content to play. Probably one of the best side scrolling games i have ever play

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        burger devs shilled this game so redditors hype it as good

  35. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't played Blasphemous, but Hollow Knight is the best indie game I've ever played. Bloodstained is just Order of Ecclesia 2 which isn't bad, but compared to HK it's nothing special.

  36. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous is the best one. The other two is okay

  37. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    9/10
    9.5/10
    8/10 (this one should habe ditched the 3d it only detracts from the game)

  38. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Boring
    >Boring
    >Haven't played it yet
    I think I'll just play another Rabi Ribi run instead, or wait for TEVI.

  39. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodstained > didn't play Blasphemous but I know it's better than Shilled Knight

  40. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodstained>Blasphemous>>>>>>>>>>>HK

    HK is honestly terrible.

  41. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Castlevania metroidvania > All other metroidvanias

  42. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >slop
    >sloppa
    >nipslop

  43. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Celeste>Undertale>Hollow Knight>Baba is you>Bloodstained>Stardew Valley
    What the frick is Blasphemous

  44. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    For a very low budget, Bloodstained achieved quite a bit. I am happy with the results.

    Hollow Knight I found a bit boring. I played for 2 hours without ever getting killed.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was let down as it wasn’t SotN, but otherwise good with one of the best villains in gaming.
      I just played Hollow Knight, wasn’t as good as I remembered.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >For a very low budget
      yes a very low budget of 5 million dollars. how could anyone even make a game with that much right?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have no idea of how expensive software development can get.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          you have no idea how many better metroidvanias were made with a smaller budget than that.

  45. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    HK is the overall better game because it's the most well rounded, even though the gameplay is unnecessarily cluttered as frick. However Blasphemous is the absolute best in terms of art direction, lore and creativity.

  46. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    hk bossfights>rotn>hk

    [...]

  47. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bloodstained > Hollow Knight > Blasphemous

    Bloodstained is pretty much IGA's greatest hits in one game. I hate the nail in Hollow Knight and the lack of new weapons hurt it, not really satisfying. Blasphemous outside of the art is quite boring.

  48. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only played HK but it was le good

  49. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    How's Afterimage?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious as well

  50. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasnt bloodstained mediocre with blasphemous being garbage carried by aesthetics?

  51. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone played gal guardians? I have it on my Amazon basket but unsure if worth the 30€

  52. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blasphemous>Bloodstained>Hollow Knight

  53. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get Hollow Knight I don't know why it's held up as a landmark game from what I played. Maybe it ends really well and that's why people love it but I just was not compelled to get there at all since the game dragged so much.

  54. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have played a fair bit of HK and Bloodstained but haven't finished either. I dropped Blasphemous in 2 hours. I enjoyed Touhou Luna Nights much more than all of the above.

  55. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    shit
    shit
    shit

  56. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I played the top 2 and didn't get very far in either of them before I quit. The last game is by the looks of it utter shit, but I could be wrong.
    So they appear to be in the correct order, top to bottom.

  57. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it’s
    Bloodstained > Blasphemous >>> Hollow Knight

  58. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Never played Blasphemous
    Hollow Knight is pretty sweet
    Bloodstained could be cool, but literally every time I've played it over the years I end up with a game breaking bug that forces me to restart. It's also horribly derivative of SotN and AoS and has a bunch of random kickstarter shit spread all over it which ruins the visual aesthetic.

    So I guess it goes:
    >Hollow Knight
    >Bloodstained = Blasphemous

  59. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only one that is good there

  60. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    where did my ps4 copy of Bloodstained go? it's missing..

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      hmmmm

  61. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reading the thread ITT made me realize how absolutely comfy the Silksong threads are going to be when the game comes out. HKbros...it's our time.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't it supposed to come out in 2022?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was supposed to come out THIS year. Any time before June 2023 to be exact. But they delayed it because "development is still continuing".

  62. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hollow Knight > Blasphemous > Bloodstained

  63. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blood>blaph>>>>>>>>…>>>hk

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