Not that long, I just got done with the third gym.
That said it did take me like three days to get to the third gym but that's just cause Diamond and Pearl pacing is stupid.
All three Wormadam and Mothim makes 4, Dustox and Beautifly (lol) Drapion counts as a half point.
Easily better.
But then there's Scyther and Scizor, so whatever.
Probably more I'm forgetting.
kek literally came here to post this
I think this is what made me switch to outright cheating instead of grinding. I learned a valuable lesson after using action replay codes for the first time, especially for JRPGs. Your time is more valuable than forced scarcity.
>yanma in hgss >1% chance and want it for my team >50/50 chance of either ability, compoundeyes or speedboost
i lost that 50/50 like 15 times in a row and im still mad
I don't get it why wouldn't you just throw your Pokemon in the day care with a ditto bawd
Nice, I got one a few months ago in Platinum AFTER I beat the game. Maybe I'll trade it over fat the beginning of a new playthrough lol.
You can reset for the gender after you found one. I think it's also how people Shiny hunt on Honey tree encounters.
I don't understand the purpose of programming absolute bullshit like this
I like it. The moronic encounter gimmicks of the older pokemon games (Headbutt trees, Feebas tiles, Honey trees, other timed crap) spice it up for me, IDK lol.
Got lucky on recent Platinum run and got Munchlax early on, but just couldn't find a slot for him on my team. Really from Gen 4 onwards there are just too many pokebros I want on my team.
in dp that's all you had, in platinum you have more options than that
DP is kind of the game that redpilled me on how useless fire types are.
Everything you could possibly need it for is handled by a good flying and fighting type, which you're most likely always gonna have on your team anyway.
Well yeah but that's in a competitive format, in a playthrough you're most likely always gonna have a flying type for Fly which by itself covers two of Fire's 4 super effective strengths.
You might as well get a fighting type since it'll be able to cover far more for you than a fire type at that point.
Yeah the problem is "good fighting types" rarely exist too. In DP the only one worth a shit is lucario, who you get as an egg more than halfway through the game. Machoke and Medicham are frickign ass.
Yeah the problem is "good fighting types" rarely exist too. In DP the only one worth a shit is lucario, who you get as an egg more than halfway through the game. Machoke and Medicham are frickign ass.
>In DP the only one worth a shit is lucario >what is no guard Machoke >what is pure power Medicham >what is Toxicroak Git Lucky or advance the clock you moron
These three are all better than Luke since you don't have to hatch it from an egg more than halfway through the game.
This is ironic cause I actually had a lot of trouble coming up with a team I like for my playthrough lol
I didn't wanna use too many Kanto mons but the water and electric distribution in Sinnoh is just so bad and the only other two good options would have been the classic Sinnoh Team Trademark Duo of Floatzel and Luxray. it's not finished yet I'll replace Bibarell eventually
The problem for me is that I've played through so many times using different pokemon that every time I feel like going through the older games again I struggle to make a team of mons I haven't used before. The only ones left are trade evos or ones locked behind esoteric shit that isn't worth the effort.
>murkrow
my homie, should really use him again but last time i played platinum my flying type was slotted with noctowl who did a lot better than i expected (the rest were empoleon, pachirisu, houndoom, golem and alakazam since i had two systems pachirisu was fricking awful to use though)
>If you go through the process of slathering honey on every single honey tree in Sinnoh, you have a 4% chance of getting a Munchlax daily
Is there any wild Pokemon encounter more bullshit than this?
Spiritomb and Feebas also come to mind but I'm genuinely curious as to which one is the objective worst
Feebas, no question. There are way too many fricking tiles in that goddamn river and there's a high chance you'll just fish up a magicarp and think it's a dud tile instead.
Feebas isn't anywhere close to D/P munchlax. The tiles that have it have their own encounter table with only feebas or carvanha so fishing multiple times on a tile and getting anything else will tell you if it's a dud or not, so it's just being incredibly meticulous and checking every single one. With Munchlax even if you know how everything works it still takes forever and can frick you over no matter what.
Obviously you can rng manip for both to take out the guesswork but even then you're still waiting the six hours with no known workaround
Probably spiritomb. You can get feebas and munchlax with enough persistence, you aren't getting spiritomb by yourself. Not without a 2nd DS, 2nd copy of DP, and restarting that file 32 times.
>restarting that file 32 times
Nah you can take the flag from the same player 32 times. I grinded it out by putting my Platinum base next to my Diamond base and running between them over and over.
Feebas, no question. There are way too many fricking tiles in that goddamn river and there's a high chance you'll just fish up a magicarp and think it's a dud tile instead.
In RSE the Feebas tile is guaranteed to give you one. It's gen IV that made it a random chance on top of that.
Yep, can confirm this anon is right, one of my neighbors when platinum came out was a high school girl with the game and we just ground it out together i was like 8 at the time, pretty weird in hindsight
These kinds of things are not inherently weird, or at the very least not inherently bad. Don’t let internet weirdos and le current year ruin your own good memories.
>and restarting that file 32 times.
?
brother the Internet existed even back then you know that right?
it's been known and confirmed for nearly two decades now that you can just rep-
yes, gen 4 is almost 20 years old, how does that make you feel?
anyways, you can just repeatedly do the underground base thing with the same person, you just have to leave and go back in before you do
I'm guessing the idea behind it is that they want to put in little secrets and easter eggs in the game to generate schoolyard discussion and add little bits of depth to the game.
The problem is that locking Pokemon behind it is kind of moronic when a huge part of the series is centered around completing the Pokedex. What I think could've been done instead was make it so instead of 4 trees randomly having a 1% Munchlax chance, there'd be 4 trees that randomly have a 1% Shiny chance. It still keeps up that secret of theirs but while also not locking entire Pokemon behind total bullshit mechanics.
Pokemon's basically the progenitor for GAAS, a lot of it is designed with shit to keep you coming back day after day and if you miss a day you get fricked.
Look at berries for example - you have to babysit them constantly and if you go a single day without playing your berry yield goes to shit and all the time you spent raising them is wasted.
Pokemon wants you to keep playing every day so that it seems like you get more value out of the games than you really do.
Or they're just poorly implemented activities because they want to showcase the new day/night cycle. They never intended people to figure out the arcane nonsense behind Munchlax they just wanted it to be rare.
This shit was even worse in gen 2. Not only did it introduce daily time-based events, but it also added rare, new encounters that are garbage like Dunsparce, Yanma, Mantine, and Natu. At least make the reward justify the high rarity.
Shitty as it is, you can't say it didn't work.
The "Mew lives under a truck" rumour was alive and well on my school grounds growing up, and a friend of mine even had MISSINGNO. He said he'd get it for me, so I gave him my Pokemon Yellow cartridge and the fricker never gave it back.
>I don't understand the purpose of programming absolute bullshit like this
Because gaming is a lot like gambling in the sense that its all about negative/positive feedback. Having to suffer through bullshit makes the reward all the sweeter, it's just basic psychology. This is why people will spend hours grinding for literally the dumbest bullshit simply because it's rare
There was still an emphasis on just catching things for the sake of novelty back then. Gen 1 has stuff like this where Jynx, Mr. Mime, and Farfetch'd are like bonus characters, or borderline useless Pokémon like Tangela are tucked away on a patch of grass toward the end of the game. By Gen 4 they got wacky with the secret bonuses. Then they gave up some time during Gen 5. I think they kind of threw the baby out with the bath water though.
I'm guessing the idea behind it is that they want to put in little secrets and easter eggs in the game to generate schoolyard discussion and add little bits of depth to the game.
The problem is that locking Pokemon behind it is kind of moronic when a huge part of the series is centered around completing the Pokedex. What I think could've been done instead was make it so instead of 4 trees randomly having a 1% Munchlax chance, there'd be 4 trees that randomly have a 1% Shiny chance. It still keeps up that secret of theirs but while also not locking entire Pokemon behind total bullshit mechanics.
>I don't understand the purpose of programming absolute bullshit like this
Because gaming is a lot like gambling in the sense that its all about negative/positive feedback. Having to suffer through bullshit makes the reward all the sweeter, it's just basic psychology. This is why people will spend hours grinding for literally the dumbest bullshit simply because it's rare
Shit in the same vein as pachinko, deeply rooted in Japanese game design
like another non mentioned games thrived a lot on "schoolyard rumors". that worked a lot better when there was no internet to spoil most things to people
Devs often don't think about the numbers in practice
"Yeah a 3% droprate, sounds good enough" but then they slap it on a monster that takes a full IRL day to respawn or some shit
Spiritomb's easy once you realize you can have the other person leave and come back after every conversation. That way, both of you get one without having to find 30 other people.
Feebas is pure ass in gen 4 because the tiles reset daily.
>Is there any wild Pokemon encounter more bullshit than this?
DPP Beldum >postgame swarm. Have to wait for one to show up by chance >in a route with both sand and arena trap Dugtrios >Beldum has a catch rate of 3 >only knows take down >constantly KOs itself with either recoil damage or struggle >one of the most difficult chaining locations in the game, and that's before the fact that chains have a mechanic where they have a 2-5% to break on their own
Have fun catching that shiny golden turd without the ghost trio
I genuinely don't think people would find feebas or spiritom if not being told how to. munchlax is the type of pokemon most people didn't get but because of the sheer number of players some got eventually even if they were not looking for it
Feebas has one saving grace to be fair - there's a fisherman on that route that says "I'll use the Pokemon I caught fishing here" and he has a Feebas on his team.
I think that's like the one clue you get for it.
There's also 0 clues on how to evolve it btw, I can just imagine the poor kid that tried getting it to level 100 only to realize they wasted their time.
GF are also always adding new shit, some of which is really good (like the dex nav in ORAS), and then it's never seen again outside of the game that introduced it
DexNav was great. Too bad these kinds of things only stay around for like one release.
The last games I played were USUM, which had a Pokemon that could only be encountered by finding a Corsola and getting it to call for help. Then you'd have a 1% chance of the Pokemon you were looking for show up.
At least you can catch a Snorlax in HGSS and breed it with a full incense. Feebas and Spiritomb have no alternative. And the Hoenn starters in gen 4 require you to play HGSS three times. Even if you have a friend to trade with, one of you will have to reset your game to beat it a second time.
>Even if you have a friend to trade with, one of you will have to reset your game to beat it a second time.
ok but hear me out
what if you had a secret third friend
this shit is what pokegays consider the peak of the franchise
this meaningless grind for the less than 5% encounter rate mons, their natures, abilities, evs, ivs, etc
it's no wonder they hate the newer games
More like this is what people who actually play the game like.
The rest are too busy pretending beating the League with bug type shitmons is some kind of achievement.
millennials and boomers are still seething about sucking ass at battling, so they cope by justifying their thousands of wasted hours grinding and breeding pokemon as "gameplay". look at how they only talk about the minigames when it comes to stadium, or how much they call the battle frontier rng bullshit when the first few sets are almost purely random AI. if you give the opponents the same resources, most millenniboomers are literally worse than monkeys at pokemon.
>never bothered with honey trees until just before HGSS came out >just put it on the two by Floaroma >one was a Munchlax >the other was a shiny Cherubi
they were going to do honey trees in gold and silver, but didn't. why did they second-guess themselves with diamond and pearl when they already made the right choice
>Golden trees spread out all around Sinnoh, seemingly at random >Honey is only purchaseable in one specific spot in all of Sinnoh >You have to check every tree in between 6 and 24 hours since you've placed the honey or you get nothing >90% of the time you find a pokémon, you get complete garbage, only a few worthwhile pokémon available >10% chance to get nothing >Difficult to get the desired pokémon >Devs actively troll by making it even harder to get rare pokémon
Frick honey
>We have a board for rpgs so no rpg discussion >We have a board for strategy so no strategy >We have a board for multi so no multi >We have a board for retro so no retro >If your game has a general frick off there
Enjoy discussing ubishit slop and snoy moviegames then, you fricking moron >B-but pokemon is slop too!
Irrelevant, your argument is moronic and you should die
Pokemon games are still games. You have always been able to talk about pokemon games on Ganker just like you can talk about the pokemon anime on Ganker, however you can't talk about the pokemon anime on Ganker just because it also has games, that would be the time to tell OP to go to /vp/
Idk if they changed the encounter method, but in Renegade Platinum I got a Feebas for my Nuzlocke and Milotic was very powerful. I fished it out in Mt. Coronet before I could even surf, so they either changed the method to make it less moronic or I got insanely lucky.
you shouldn't even be able to get to the floor that has feebas without surf so they definitely changed it, as all romhacks tend to do with bullshit mons like that
the story was changed to make you go to the snow route to find gardenia, so you'd have to go through that floor and can get feebas early. you never needed surf to access that water or catch feebas anyway
yeah I misremembered because I fricking despise mt. coronet and don't want it taking up space in my brain, still there's almost zero chance it'll be on a tile accessible without surf
>yanma in hgss >1% chance and want it for my team >50/50 chance of either ability, compoundeyes or speedboost
i lost that 50/50 like 15 times in a row and im still mad
post national dex at which point im done with the game
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I don't get it why wouldn't you just throw your Pokemon in the day care with a ditto bawd
Black person by the time ive bred and hatched 15x yanma's for the right ability and a ok nature i would be on my third lap through victory road im not playan pokemon for longass times where i actually catch em all or some shit i just make a jank ass dog team i scrape off the roadside and beat up children and elderly people with my leprosy ridden squirrel or in this case my AC130 assault dragonfly
>I wanted a Yanma >With a specific ability and non-negative nature >So instead of breeding more I encountered around 1500 Pokemon on that route until I got the right ability
The worst part is they do this shit for pokemon they are just okay. Having one on your team isn't going to break the bank so why make them so fricking rare?
The postgame versions of Ho-Oh/Lugia also forgot their signature moves and there is no way to relearn them, making them absolutely worthless in competition
With Lugia, yould probably get with replacing aeroblast with a move with more PP because it's a wall. Not having curse + aeroblast does kinda suck though. Ho-Oh's sacred fire is outclassed by flamethrower and fire blast in gen 2.
Less PP than flamethrower in a gen where PP matters. Less power than fire blast in a gen where power REALLY matters. Burn sucks in a gen where everything has rest.
Modern Pokemon gets a lot wrong but getting rid of shit like this and making basically everything pretty common will always be the better system in my mind
"Sneasel is just too good (despite not being able to run STAB due to that awful Sp. Atk stat), make it so the player must beat all 16 Gym Badges to use" is a statement dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Honestly most of this doesn't seem that bad, the game's just making sure you interact with the new mechanics.
Getting a Heracross and Pineco is literally so easy too, there's almost 0 randomness involved once you realize that they only show up in trees that always give you an encounter.
Also I'm pretty sure Qwilfish and Remoraid are available before the post-game.
>metal coat
That one's easy. All you have to do is teach something thief after getting it in the Rocket Hideout and use it on Magnemites until one drops it. 2% ain't bad considering you're not wasting money on balls.
Yeah if anything the King's Rock is the pain in the ass since you need to wait all the way until Mt. Silver to consistently find Poliwrath in the wild to steal from.
It's only really an issue for dex completion since you do get a free one but still.
Yeahh that's why I said it's only an issue for dex completion.
You get one King's Rock and one Metal Coat for free in the campaign and then you have to steal the other from wild Pokemon for the second evolution with each item.
There only being one Dragon Scale evo in the game is a godsend.
Putting exclusive Pokemon behind multiple layers of random chance and obfuscation is absolutely abominable and anyone who wants to defend it is moronic. And older Pokemon games especially made a lot of moronic decisions with what to make available to you at any given moment.
But also, I personally think the games have gotten reluctant to do ANYTHING of note with Pokemon availability, and if you ask me, they're worse off for it. Yet another case of Game Freak being spooked out of the right territory because they did it in a moronic way once and were rightly told off for being moronic.
GF are also always adding new shit, some of which is really good (like the dex nav in ORAS), and then it's never seen again outside of the game that introduced it
I think it's ok to gate some pokemon over absurdly low chances of spawning before you hit post game. just make it easier to find after that. finding a rare pokemon by luck is pretty cool but never getting it is maddening. and by that I still do believe that shiny pokemon should be a 1 in 8000 chance again because the grind made it more satisfying
Ehhhhhhh, I'm 50/50 on that. On the one hand, I fully support making scarcity a major obstacle for the player and having this obstacle be lifted primarily via beating the main story. On the other hand, I feel it does a disservice to more experienced players to KNOW these cool options exist, and not have reliable access to them for a more tailored/"ideal" run. You'd have to add some sort of bonus trigger only an experienced player could reasonably take advantage of, ideally via something more immersive than "just make it some sort of NG+ bonus".
boomers call it gameplay. what, you don't like it?
All three Wormadam and Mothim makes 4, Dustox and Beautifly (lol) Drapion counts as a half point.
Easily better.
But then there's Scyther and Scizor, so whatever.
Probably more I'm forgetting.
here's the bug types in the platinum regional dex >kricketune >wormadam >mothim >beautifly >dustox >vespiquen >heracross >drapion if you want to count that >yanmega >scyther/scizor
the last 4 are all definitely better on an in-game team and the rest are really fricking shit in comparison
they were thinking that you'd go off and do something else instead of sitting there like a moron.
boomers call it gameplay. what, you don't like it?
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here's the bug types in the platinum regional dex >kricketune >wormadam >mothim >beautifly >dustox >vespiquen >heracross >drapion if you want to count that >yanmega >scyther/scizor
the last 4 are all definitely better on an in-game team and the rest are really fricking shit in comparison
>munchlax early bird cameo'd in mystery dungeon rescue team alongside 4 other gen 4 pokemons >munchlax was a 1% chance event that would happen in pokemon square >munchlax in gen 4 is like a 5% chance if you do EVERYTHING correctly >munchlax in gen 7 is a rare encounter too
they tried really hard to justify baby pokemon existing from gens 2 to 4 but unfortunately it's just a completely shit mechanic and the more they added to it the worse it got
Might as well just give you the Snorlax.
>Diamond and Pearl came with an ad for a mic >showed two kids trading >guy offers a Weavile for her Munchlax >girl turns it down
They knew damn well what they were doing. Munchlax is just really valuable. In the Teal Mask DLC, you can obtain a shiny Munchlax through beating that balloon minigame on hard, and it's a pain in the ass to do.
It's hard to get attached to a Pokemon when the chance of getting it is so low.
See also Zoroark in Gen 5. Supposed to be the shillmon of the gen, but because GF was so moronic to not allow it to be catchable at all in BW, it never panned out.
>the only lucario you can get in gen 4 without breeding or trading is one you receive as an egg from an NPC >pikachu exists in the gen 1 games only as a 5%-rate encounter in viridian forest, and 25% in a much later optional area >but no, players will only get attached to a Pokemon if they see fifty of the fricker on every route like everything else in SV
please think before you speak
>See also Zoroark in Gen 5. Supposed to be the shillmon of the gen, but because GF was so moronic to not allow it to be catchable at all in BW, it never panned out.
lmao that must be why they give you a free one in BW2
>If you go through the process of slathering honey on every single honey tree in Sinnoh, you have a 4% chance of getting a Munchlax daily
Is there any wild Pokemon encounter more bullshit than this?
Spiritomb and Feebas also come to mind but I'm genuinely curious as to which one is the objective worst
Honestly, the scarcity was fricking gay but it also made the schoolyard stories all the more fun. There isn't really any forced scarcity these days but at least they've kept up the ridiculous evolution methods, like Cogayrigus, though that loses the magic behind it as soon as you learn the secret by reading it online.
Because it highlights the name in dialog boxes. They should have kept it, or made it an option. You can always use lowercases when you nickname Pokemon.
scarlet and violet let you catch something like 5x the level of the first gym and steamroll the entire game by pumping all your experience into it, like a superpowered, even more moronic version of the "just pick the starter and steamroll the game" playstyle five year olds employ.
SV are the easiest games in the series by a massive margin, anon. The most linear and handholdy gen in the series is gen 7 and that one gets decently hard.
the blaziken was only available at launch and lucario is given to you halfway through the game and can be released, thus is a perishable resource
this contrasts sv which lets you at any given point in the game run out and savescum your way into owning something higher level than 80% of the region's trainers
OK well
What would my team be in Kalos? >I hate fairy type >anti-fairy type team >only ultra effective pokemon against Fairy type >only pokemon resistant to Fairy type >i hate sylveon >I hate mega evolutions
Everybody in this thread knows about Renegade Platinum, right?
Drayano basically just makes "Pokemon, but for grownups, and with no bullshit."
All 493 pokemon available in some form in a lore appropriate way
All trainiers rebalanced. All trainers now use gym leader AI, and gym leaders have well composed teams
Pokemon movesets and stats, and evolution requirements rebalanced so that every pokemon has at least a niche use instead of some pokemon being totally useless.
And again, all of nintendo's bullshit to make you pester your friends or check in daily is gone. Eggs hatch faster, move tutors and EV training is available basically for free. TMs are infinite, etc. The idea being that you can basically "respec" a pokemon in very short order, notwithstanding its nature and IVs.
All counterbalanced by the fact that, again, ALL trainers are able to play with all of their brain cells and gym leaders in particular can't be swept by a single pokemon with a type advantage.
I hadn't played pokemon in well over a decade when I downloaded it on a friend's recommendation and it was like experiencing pokemon the way it was meant to be played.
>you pester your friends or check in daily is gone. Eggs hatch faster, move tutors and EV training is available basically for free. TMs are infinite, etc. The idea being that you can basically "respec" a pokemon in very short order, notwithstanding its nature and IVs.
soulless slop
I played the black romhack the guy did. It was a fun novelty but the late game becomes fricking unbearable because you have to run back to get healed or switch pokemon after every fight around victory road since each trainer comes with 6 fully comp built pokemon that you have to basically counterpick.
but anon, ace trainers in victory road are training to take on the elite four! Do you think they'd just be walking around with two-pokemon teams and maybe a fully evolved starter?
I enjoyed the original storm silver and left renegade plat and blaze black 2 halfway through, every trainer having a full team of 6 min maxed mons get really tedious and makes going through a new route a chore
It's nice but you end up going though half the game and then every trainer has a full team of 6 pokemon that are ev iv trained etc and it just becomes a slog to playthrough.
It's weird how most of the complaints about Pokemon have shifted from the lack of content, shitty graphics and animations, short campaigns, lack of difficulty, removed pokemon, dev lies, etc
to what amounts to >the game is too soulful >I should just have everything handed to me for free with no effort >I am entitled to filling out my dex >I don't want my Pokemon to participate in my adventure
I wonder what changed? I'm guessing the people who actually wanted Pokemon to improve got fed up and left long ago?
The shitposting around Pokemon is so pervasive and long-lived that it's actually managed to quell some dissent. People are tired of voicing what's obviously true to no avail for the millionth fricking thread.
This right here how many times when a new monster catching game pops up and someone screeches up the streets its the next pokemon killer and then nothing happens but new thing falls into obscurity due to lack of interest or somehow being worse than pokemon.
Rampant genwars have divided the fanbase in two, mostly shaping along the lines of gens 1-5 vs 6-9, generally speaking the 1-5 crowd want more difficulty and for things to be taken more seriously while the 6-9 crowd cares mostly for QoL and online.
Feel free to call this an unpopular opinion but I think >I want the video game to give me everything I want for free!
and >I don't think Pokemon should lock a certain Pokemon behind four random tiles that change every day and you have to fish in one of those exact four exact tiles for a small chance of finding it and the game never explains this to you or gives you any kind of indication that it exists.
are not the same thing
thanks. fricker took like a month to get, didn’t even know about the TID/SID tool either. First time I used it, I got him on a tree i was already checking everyday lol.
i dont feel like i spent more time on any pokemon other than relicanth. i dont know if its actually a pain in the ass or if my autisim simply isn't that advanced but this is what i think of when i think 'annoying to obtain'.
He can only be found underwater and has a low encounter rate (5%) It's annoying but not as annoying as other annoying pokemon. Chimecho from the same game was worse since it only has a 2% rate.
I know some pokemon are locked behind post game or something else to make completing the pokedex more of a challenge, but it has the unfortunate side effect of making these mons completely unviable for a casual run because you've already beaten most of the game by the time you can get them.
That being said, how would you fix this without ruining pokedex progression?
>trying to find a female combee
Shit was moronic.
how long did it take
you can soft reset for a female, but boy is vespiquen fricking terrible
Not that long, I just got done with the third gym.
That said it did take me like three days to get to the third gym but that's just cause Diamond and Pearl pacing is stupid.
>but boy is vespiquen fricking terrible
Vespiquen is actually great, especially in nuzlockes.
I'd argue it's in the top 5 bugs for in-game.
>I'd argue it's in the top 5 bugs for in-game.
That's a low fricking bar considering bug is the worst fricking type in the game.
I was including every other gen (gen 5 especially) in that, but you're not wrong.
>including every other gen
now that's just plain wrong lmao
1v1 my Volcarona homosexual
Volcarona gets hard carried by Quiver Dance
t. volcaronagay
>uses Power Gem
GG
>outspeeds and one shots your Amphraros with hidden power ground
better luck next time kiddo
Vespiquen is fricking garbage, used one in BDSP and TOTAL deadweight
>top 5 bugs for in-game.
Yeah and how many fricking bugs were there even? Lol
All three Wormadam and Mothim makes 4, Dustox and Beautifly (lol) Drapion counts as a half point.
Easily better.
But then there's Scyther and Scizor, so whatever.
Probably more I'm forgetting.
kek literally came here to post this
I think this is what made me switch to outright cheating instead of grinding. I learned a valuable lesson after using action replay codes for the first time, especially for JRPGs. Your time is more valuable than forced scarcity.
I don't get it why wouldn't you just throw your Pokemon in the day care with a ditto bawd
that would be better for yanma but combee gender ratio is the same no matter what, grinding eggs would take way longer
You can soft reset combee's gender when you encounter one in a honey tree.
Is there a mechanical bonus to getting a female one?
Only the female can evolve, so yes.
Only females can evolve in Vespiqueen
Only females can evolve into Vespiquen.
No
you'd be gay for trying to frick the male one
>encounter female combees all the damn time across multiple games
it is easily my most useless superpower
Nice, I got one a few months ago in Platinum AFTER I beat the game. Maybe I'll trade it over fat the beginning of a new playthrough lol.
You can reset for the gender after you found one. I think it's also how people Shiny hunt on Honey tree encounters.
I like it. The moronic encounter gimmicks of the older pokemon games (Headbutt trees, Feebas tiles, Honey trees, other timed crap) spice it up for me, IDK lol.
Just soft reset bro?
It takes a few seconds.
Lucky fricker.
Got lucky on recent Platinum run and got Munchlax early on, but just couldn't find a slot for him on my team. Really from Gen 4 onwards there are just too many pokebros I want on my team.
who are you using for fire anon? back when i was younger it felt like literally your only options were chimchar or rapidash and i always went turtwig
you have houndoom as well
in dp that's all you had, in platinum you have more options than that
DP is kind of the game that redpilled me on how useless fire types are.
Everything you could possibly need it for is handled by a good flying and fighting type, which you're most likely always gonna have on your team anyway.
Fire is one of the best types after fairy
Well yeah but that's in a competitive format, in a playthrough you're most likely always gonna have a flying type for Fly which by itself covers two of Fire's 4 super effective strengths.
You might as well get a fighting type since it'll be able to cover far more for you than a fire type at that point.
Bro your Croagunk??
The only fighting move croagunk and toxicroak learn is revenge.
bro your brick break?
You can get brick break as soon as you have the bike.
>not teaching it brick break
>>>not using subpunch Toxicroak
The hell is wrong with you?
Yeah the problem is "good fighting types" rarely exist too. In DP the only one worth a shit is lucario, who you get as an egg more than halfway through the game. Machoke and Medicham are frickign ass.
You can just use close combat on Staraptor
>5 pp move
>single player pokemon
have you heard of PP up anon
machamp and medicham are great you're a dingus
>In DP the only one worth a shit is lucario
>what is no guard Machoke
>what is pure power Medicham
>what is Toxicroak Git Lucky or advance the clock you moron
These three are all better than Luke since you don't have to hatch it from an egg more than halfway through the game.
holy fricking scrub
>not rotating
Some trainer...
hopefully access to the PC from anywhere becomes a core mechanic
but it won't
This is ironic cause I actually had a lot of trouble coming up with a team I like for my playthrough lol
I didn't wanna use too many Kanto mons but the water and electric distribution in Sinnoh is just so bad and the only other two good options would have been the classic Sinnoh Team Trademark Duo of Floatzel and Luxray.
it's not finished yet I'll replace Bibarell eventually
The problem for me is that I've played through so many times using different pokemon that every time I feel like going through the older games again I struggle to make a team of mons I haven't used before. The only ones left are trade evos or ones locked behind esoteric shit that isn't worth the effort.
>murkrow
my homie, should really use him again but last time i played platinum my flying type was slotted with noctowl who did a lot better than i expected (the rest were empoleon, pachirisu, houndoom, golem and alakazam since i had two systems pachirisu was fricking awful to use though)
This is why i play Nuzlocke exclusively. The game ends when i beat elite four / champion.
>If you go through the process of slathering honey on every single honey tree in Sinnoh, you have a 4% chance of getting a Munchlax daily
Is there any wild Pokemon encounter more bullshit than this?
Spiritomb and Feebas also come to mind but I'm genuinely curious as to which one is the objective worst
Feebas, no question. There are way too many fricking tiles in that goddamn river and there's a high chance you'll just fish up a magicarp and think it's a dud tile instead.
If you pray before every encounter you raise your chances, simple as.
I found a feebas as a kid but never found a munchlax
munchlax is WAY more tedious, even if you sit there messing with the DS clock
Feebas isn't anywhere close to D/P munchlax. The tiles that have it have their own encounter table with only feebas or carvanha so fishing multiple times on a tile and getting anything else will tell you if it's a dud or not, so it's just being incredibly meticulous and checking every single one. With Munchlax even if you know how everything works it still takes forever and can frick you over no matter what.
Obviously you can rng manip for both to take out the guesswork but even then you're still waiting the six hours with no known workaround
Probably spiritomb. You can get feebas and munchlax with enough persistence, you aren't getting spiritomb by yourself. Not without a 2nd DS, 2nd copy of DP, and restarting that file 32 times.
I forgot about that. Yeah, frick Spiritomb.
>restarting that file 32 times
Nah you can take the flag from the same player 32 times. I grinded it out by putting my Platinum base next to my Diamond base and running between them over and over.
In RSE the Feebas tile is guaranteed to give you one. It's gen IV that made it a random chance on top of that.
Yep, can confirm this anon is right, one of my neighbors when platinum came out was a high school girl with the game and we just ground it out together
i was like 8 at the time, pretty weird in hindsight
lucky b***h, I had to settle for my annoying brother
These kinds of things are not inherently weird, or at the very least not inherently bad. Don’t let internet weirdos and le current year ruin your own good memories.
>and restarting that file 32 times.
?
brother the Internet existed even back then you know that right?
it's been known and confirmed for nearly two decades now that you can just rep-
yes, gen 4 is almost 20 years old, how does that make you feel?
anyways, you can just repeatedly do the underground base thing with the same person, you just have to leave and go back in before you do
>brother the Internet existed even back then you know that right?
underground is local only
>doesnt even understand what i said
so what ESL country is up right now
some SEA place?
you filipino?
Feebas is still the worst.
I don't understand the purpose of programming absolute bullshit like this
I'm guessing the idea behind it is that they want to put in little secrets and easter eggs in the game to generate schoolyard discussion and add little bits of depth to the game.
The problem is that locking Pokemon behind it is kind of moronic when a huge part of the series is centered around completing the Pokedex. What I think could've been done instead was make it so instead of 4 trees randomly having a 1% Munchlax chance, there'd be 4 trees that randomly have a 1% Shiny chance. It still keeps up that secret of theirs but while also not locking entire Pokemon behind total bullshit mechanics.
Pokemon's basically the progenitor for GAAS, a lot of it is designed with shit to keep you coming back day after day and if you miss a day you get fricked.
Look at berries for example - you have to babysit them constantly and if you go a single day without playing your berry yield goes to shit and all the time you spent raising them is wasted.
Pokemon wants you to keep playing every day so that it seems like you get more value out of the games than you really do.
Or they're just poorly implemented activities because they want to showcase the new day/night cycle. They never intended people to figure out the arcane nonsense behind Munchlax they just wanted it to be rare.
This shit was even worse in gen 2. Not only did it introduce daily time-based events, but it also added rare, new encounters that are garbage like Dunsparce, Yanma, Mantine, and Natu. At least make the reward justify the high rarity.
A mix of
>schoolyard rumors
>selling strategy guides
Shitty as it is, you can't say it didn't work.
The "Mew lives under a truck" rumour was alive and well on my school grounds growing up, and a friend of mine even had MISSINGNO. He said he'd get it for me, so I gave him my Pokemon Yellow cartridge and the fricker never gave it back.
>I don't understand the purpose of programming absolute bullshit like this
Because gaming is a lot like gambling in the sense that its all about negative/positive feedback. Having to suffer through bullshit makes the reward all the sweeter, it's just basic psychology. This is why people will spend hours grinding for literally the dumbest bullshit simply because it's rare
There was still an emphasis on just catching things for the sake of novelty back then. Gen 1 has stuff like this where Jynx, Mr. Mime, and Farfetch'd are like bonus characters, or borderline useless Pokémon like Tangela are tucked away on a patch of grass toward the end of the game. By Gen 4 they got wacky with the secret bonuses. Then they gave up some time during Gen 5. I think they kind of threw the baby out with the bath water though.
Shit in the same vein as pachinko, deeply rooted in Japanese game design
Honestly makes more of an impression than walking back and forth on a particular area than moving on to the next one.
Selling strategy guides
like another non mentioned games thrived a lot on "schoolyard rumors". that worked a lot better when there was no internet to spoil most things to people
It's fun to grind for rare stuff in video games. It's like gambling but you don't lose money, just time
asians are addicted to artificial rarity
it's genuine rarity, unless you mean artificial in the sense that it's in a virtual video world
Devs often don't think about the numbers in practice
"Yeah a 3% droprate, sounds good enough" but then they slap it on a monster that takes a full IRL day to respawn or some shit
i just jack off to female trainers
To sell you game magazines or manual books that reveal these bullshit mechanics to you.
The game is about collecting things
yanma has a 1% chance of appearing on the johto games
For random encounters with no other conditions that is not too bad.
Spiritomb's easy once you realize you can have the other person leave and come back after every conversation. That way, both of you get one without having to find 30 other people.
Feebas is pure ass in gen 4 because the tiles reset daily.
>Is there any wild Pokemon encounter more bullshit than this?
DPP Beldum
>postgame swarm. Have to wait for one to show up by chance
>in a route with both sand and arena trap Dugtrios
>Beldum has a catch rate of 3
>only knows take down
>constantly KOs itself with either recoil damage or struggle
>one of the most difficult chaining locations in the game, and that's before the fact that chains have a mechanic where they have a 2-5% to break on their own
Have fun catching that shiny golden turd without the ghost trio
I genuinely don't think people would find feebas or spiritom if not being told how to. munchlax is the type of pokemon most people didn't get but because of the sheer number of players some got eventually even if they were not looking for it
Feebas has one saving grace to be fair - there's a fisherman on that route that says "I'll use the Pokemon I caught fishing here" and he has a Feebas on his team.
I think that's like the one clue you get for it.
There's also 0 clues on how to evolve it btw, I can just imagine the poor kid that tried getting it to level 100 only to realize they wasted their time.
> Feebas
who the frick were you suppose to know?!
DPPt chaining in general.
DexNav was great. Too bad these kinds of things only stay around for like one release.
Get filtered. Dexnav was too easy.
EVERYTHING is easy to catch in modern Pokemon you fricking mong, dexnav at least made the way in which you do that more interactive
Fricking Wynaut in Ruby and Sapphire takes the cake and Feebas was a pleasant fricking time in comparison every single god damned time.
you get a wynaut egg in lavaridge
It turns out, the homosexual was me all along. My bad.
The last games I played were USUM, which had a Pokemon that could only be encountered by finding a Corsola and getting it to call for help. Then you'd have a 1% chance of the Pokemon you were looking for show up.
At least you can catch a Snorlax in HGSS and breed it with a full incense. Feebas and Spiritomb have no alternative. And the Hoenn starters in gen 4 require you to play HGSS three times. Even if you have a friend to trade with, one of you will have to reset your game to beat it a second time.
the bullshit around the gen 4 regis will always be the funniest
>Even if you have a friend to trade with, one of you will have to reset your game to beat it a second time.
ok but hear me out
what if you had a secret third friend
I cheated
this shit is what pokegays consider the peak of the franchise
this meaningless grind for the less than 5% encounter rate mons, their natures, abilities, evs, ivs, etc
it's no wonder they hate the newer games
More like this is what people who actually play the game like.
The rest are too busy pretending beating the League with bug type shitmons is some kind of achievement.
millennials and boomers are still seething about sucking ass at battling, so they cope by justifying their thousands of wasted hours grinding and breeding pokemon as "gameplay". look at how they only talk about the minigames when it comes to stadium, or how much they call the battle frontier rng bullshit when the first few sets are almost purely random AI. if you give the opponents the same resources, most millenniboomers are literally worse than monkeys at pokemon.
>never bothered with honey trees until just before HGSS came out
>just put it on the two by Floaroma
>one was a Munchlax
>the other was a shiny Cherubi
they were going to do honey trees in gold and silver, but didn't. why did they second-guess themselves with diamond and pearl when they already made the right choice
>Golden trees spread out all around Sinnoh, seemingly at random
>Honey is only purchaseable in one specific spot in all of Sinnoh
>You have to check every tree in between 6 and 24 hours since you've placed the honey or you get nothing
>90% of the time you find a pokémon, you get complete garbage, only a few worthwhile pokémon available
>10% chance to get nothing
>Difficult to get the desired pokémon
>Devs actively troll by making it even harder to get rare pokémon
Frick honey
Life is too short, anon.
show me the rule that says pokemon isn't allowed to be posted here
>We have a board for rpgs so no rpg discussion
>We have a board for strategy so no strategy
>We have a board for multi so no multi
>We have a board for retro so no retro
>If your game has a general frick off there
Enjoy discussing ubishit slop and snoy moviegames then, you fricking moron
>B-but pokemon is slop too!
Irrelevant, your argument is moronic and you should die
Pokemon is worse than moviegames or ubislop and has an even worse fanbase
Irrelevant to my point, already addressed in it as it was a predictable response from this low IQ board also.
Pokemon games are still games. You have always been able to talk about pokemon games on Ganker just like you can talk about the pokemon anime on Ganker, however you can't talk about the pokemon anime on Ganker just because it also has games, that would be the time to tell OP to go to /vp/
Idk if they changed the encounter method, but in Renegade Platinum I got a Feebas for my Nuzlocke and Milotic was very powerful. I fished it out in Mt. Coronet before I could even surf, so they either changed the method to make it less moronic or I got insanely lucky.
it's 100% in renplat
you shouldn't even be able to get to the floor that has feebas without surf so they definitely changed it, as all romhacks tend to do with bullshit mons like that
the story was changed to make you go to the snow route to find gardenia, so you'd have to go through that floor and can get feebas early. you never needed surf to access that water or catch feebas anyway
yeah I misremembered because I fricking despise mt. coronet and don't want it taking up space in my brain, still there's almost zero chance it'll be on a tile accessible without surf
Not possible
>yanma in hgss
>1% chance and want it for my team
>50/50 chance of either ability, compoundeyes or speedboost
i lost that 50/50 like 15 times in a row and im still mad
boomers here call that gameplay, i bet it was super fun 🙂
you're supposed to wait for the young children you exchanged phone numbers with to call you about a swarm, weirdo
post national dex at which point im done with the game
Black person by the time ive bred and hatched 15x yanma's for the right ability and a ok nature i would be on my third lap through victory road im not playan pokemon for longass times where i actually catch em all or some shit i just make a jank ass dog team i scrape off the roadside and beat up children and elderly people with my leprosy ridden squirrel or in this case my AC130 assault dragonfly
>leprosy ridden squirrel
nice you got pokerus?
>Black person by the time ive bred and hatched 15x yanma's for the right ability and a ok nature i would be on my third lap through victory road
Then why are you catching Yanmas at 1% encounter rate you fricking dipshit
because i wanted a yanma what do you not get about this
i wanted a milotic in super sun or whatever it was called
>I wanted a Yanma
>With a specific ability and non-negative nature
>So instead of breeding more I encountered around 1500 Pokemon on that route until I got the right ability
This is where I'm confused.
Maybe he wants one in a specific ball?
I spent an entire afternoon as a kid trying to catch one in Silver. Didn't find one.
The worst part is they do this shit for pokemon they are just okay. Having one on your team isn't going to break the bank so why make them so fricking rare?
In silver/gold, if the roamers use roar they will never appear again due to a bug
That was FRLG
The postgame versions of Ho-Oh/Lugia also forgot their signature moves and there is no way to relearn them, making them absolutely worthless in competition
With Lugia, yould probably get with replacing aeroblast with a move with more PP because it's a wall. Not having curse + aeroblast does kinda suck though. Ho-Oh's sacred fire is outclassed by flamethrower and fire blast in gen 2.
>Ho-Oh's sacred fire is outclassed by flamethrower and fire blast in gen 2.
LOL
Less PP than flamethrower in a gen where PP matters. Less power than fire blast in a gen where power REALLY matters. Burn sucks in a gen where everything has rest.
yeah I know I was laughing because it really is quite silly how sacred fire used to be bad
Modern Pokemon gets a lot wrong but getting rid of shit like this and making basically everything pretty common will always be the better system in my mind
"Sneasel is just too good (despite not being able to run STAB due to that awful Sp. Atk stat), make it so the player must beat all 16 Gym Badges to use" is a statement dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Honestly most of this doesn't seem that bad, the game's just making sure you interact with the new mechanics.
Getting a Heracross and Pineco is literally so easy too, there's almost 0 randomness involved once you realize that they only show up in trees that always give you an encounter.
Also I'm pretty sure Qwilfish and Remoraid are available before the post-game.
I don't know anon I think they could make some mons available after johto but they should have made more of them available there
>metal coat
That one's easy. All you have to do is teach something thief after getting it in the Rocket Hideout and use it on Magnemites until one drops it. 2% ain't bad considering you're not wasting money on balls.
Yeah if anything the King's Rock is the pain in the ass since you need to wait all the way until Mt. Silver to consistently find Poliwrath in the wild to steal from.
It's only really an issue for dex completion since you do get a free one but still.
Doesn't someone give you the king's rock in Slowpoke's Well? You need strength for it.
Yeahh that's why I said it's only an issue for dex completion.
You get one King's Rock and one Metal Coat for free in the campaign and then you have to steal the other from wild Pokemon for the second evolution with each item.
There only being one Dragon Scale evo in the game is a godsend.
It should have just been like Gen II.
Putting exclusive Pokemon behind multiple layers of random chance and obfuscation is absolutely abominable and anyone who wants to defend it is moronic. And older Pokemon games especially made a lot of moronic decisions with what to make available to you at any given moment.
But also, I personally think the games have gotten reluctant to do ANYTHING of note with Pokemon availability, and if you ask me, they're worse off for it. Yet another case of Game Freak being spooked out of the right territory because they did it in a moronic way once and were rightly told off for being moronic.
GF are also always adding new shit, some of which is really good (like the dex nav in ORAS), and then it's never seen again outside of the game that introduced it
>Less random chance!
>More random chance!
>Less obfuscation!
>More obfuscation AND random chance!
>I hate Pokemon.
Don't dump the entire bucket of paint just to touch something up
I think it's ok to gate some pokemon over absurdly low chances of spawning before you hit post game. just make it easier to find after that. finding a rare pokemon by luck is pretty cool but never getting it is maddening. and by that I still do believe that shiny pokemon should be a 1 in 8000 chance again because the grind made it more satisfying
Ehhhhhhh, I'm 50/50 on that. On the one hand, I fully support making scarcity a major obstacle for the player and having this obstacle be lifted primarily via beating the main story. On the other hand, I feel it does a disservice to more experienced players to KNOW these cool options exist, and not have reliable access to them for a more tailored/"ideal" run. You'd have to add some sort of bonus trigger only an experienced player could reasonably take advantage of, ideally via something more immersive than "just make it some sort of NG+ bonus".
Pokemon being rare on early routes and more common on a later one isn't bad but it shouldn't be locked behind postgame
Doing obscure shit for legendaries or really strong pokemon = good
Doing obscure shit for shitmons = bad
EZ concept to grasp.
>Waiting for hours as a mechanic
What were they thinking?
boomers call it gameplay. what, you don't like it?
here's the bug types in the platinum regional dex
>kricketune
>wormadam
>mothim
>beautifly
>dustox
>vespiquen
>heracross
>drapion if you want to count that
>yanmega
>scyther/scizor
the last 4 are all definitely better on an in-game team and the rest are really fricking shit in comparison
>drapion if you want to count that
Why wouldn't you? is it not bu-
>Poison/Dark
huh
skorupi is bug/poison, then it evolves into a type that isn't garbage
they were thinking that you'd go off and do something else instead of sitting there like a moron.
like this moron
This was the most moronic mechanic ever in these fricking games.
>munchlax early bird cameo'd in mystery dungeon rescue team alongside 4 other gen 4 pokemons
>munchlax was a 1% chance event that would happen in pokemon square
>munchlax in gen 4 is like a 5% chance if you do EVERYTHING correctly
>munchlax in gen 7 is a rare encounter too
do they just hate munchlax
fat "people" should be loathed
cant you just breed a munchlax?
they tried really hard to justify baby pokemon existing from gens 2 to 4 but unfortunately it's just a completely shit mechanic and the more they added to it the worse it got
Might as well just give you the Snorlax.
I don't remember Munchlax being super rare in USUM. You can catch it right after you get the tauros ride.
>Diamond and Pearl came with an ad for a mic
>showed two kids trading
>guy offers a Weavile for her Munchlax
>girl turns it down
They knew damn well what they were doing. Munchlax is just really valuable. In the Teal Mask DLC, you can obtain a shiny Munchlax through beating that balloon minigame on hard, and it's a pain in the ass to do.
Munchlax is something that was intended to be really popular and TPC thought they had gold but everyone just kind of thought it was dumb.
It's hard to get attached to a Pokemon when the chance of getting it is so low.
See also Zoroark in Gen 5. Supposed to be the shillmon of the gen, but because GF was so moronic to not allow it to be catchable at all in BW, it never panned out.
>the only lucario you can get in gen 4 without breeding or trading is one you receive as an egg from an NPC
>pikachu exists in the gen 1 games only as a 5%-rate encounter in viridian forest, and 25% in a much later optional area
>but no, players will only get attached to a Pokemon if they see fifty of the fricker on every route like everything else in SV
please think before you speak
Lucario had a whole movie dedicated to itself and a spot in Smash Bros.
Pikachu is literally the main character of the entire franchise.
Zoroark got a feature movie too, to be fair, and made it into Smash as an assist (albeit belated)
Yeah but people still cared about the Pokemon movies and the anime in general when the Lucario one came out.
Same can't really be said about Zoroark.
Wasn't DP a popular season, or am I mistaking that for AG?
NTA but most people at least found the NPC to get your free lucario in gen 4 and pikachu is basically the face of the franchise
god the zoroark stuff hurts
great pokemon, utterly wasted
5 was the first gen I was able to go to all the events for, for what a pain missing out on them is it really was a blast even by then
>See also Zoroark in Gen 5. Supposed to be the shillmon of the gen, but because GF was so moronic to not allow it to be catchable at all in BW, it never panned out.
lmao that must be why they give you a free one in BW2
Munchlax was the only pokemon in LA I couldn't get either. Had to wait for the post game to have one of those rain events.
QRD? I dont get it.
>Can only get it in pearl after the 5th badge
What were they thinking?
After how badly it fricks your shit up early on it feels somewhat justified.
would've been okay if it came with fake out but nah, it's a level 1 move
Your heart scale bro?
They weren't thinking with Diamond and Pearl lol.
It's funny how fricking cucked she is compared to Skunky lmao
Honestly, the scarcity was fricking gay but it also made the schoolyard stories all the more fun. There isn't really any forced scarcity these days but at least they've kept up the ridiculous evolution methods, like Cogayrigus, though that loses the magic behind it as soon as you learn the secret by reading it online.
>wahhh wahhh muh 1% honey trees!!!
Not my problem.
Nuzlocking this was pure CBT
just hack in rare candies dude, its what all the pros do
btw are action replay different across region? like if i'm playing jp soulsilver, would an action replay for the us version not work?
i think you'd have to use different codes but the action replay works for both. also it's generally safer to use pkhex
thank you, i wanted to catch a mantine but i only realised it's hgs exclusive now that i beat the 3rd gym
>not a shiny
Keep hunting, gay
why did they have everything in all caps from gen 1-4
Because it highlights the name in dialog boxes. They should have kept it, or made it an option. You can always use lowercases when you nickname Pokemon.
>Diamond and Pearl are nearly 20 years old
Frick I feel old and I've been around since Red and Blue.
>heh, nothing personel kiddo
How do you respond without sounding mad?
By booting my Acekard with built in AR support but using the homebrew save editor instead.
now get a shiny one
which Pokemon game is the easiest of all?
I want a pokemon game that is a path of roses all the time
scarlet and violet let you catch something like 5x the level of the first gym and steamroll the entire game by pumping all your experience into it, like a superpowered, even more moronic version of the "just pick the starter and steamroll the game" playstyle five year olds employ.
I was thinking about someone who is even easier than scarlet and violet.
I want a pokemon that literally makes you play on autopilot and makes it impossible to get stuck.
SV are the easiest games in the series by a massive margin, anon. The most linear and handholdy gen in the series is gen 7 and that one gets decently hard.
XY itself is easier
the blaziken was only available at launch and lucario is given to you halfway through the game and can be released, thus is a perishable resource
this contrasts sv which lets you at any given point in the game run out and savescum your way into owning something higher level than 80% of the region's trainers
X/Y practically play themselves, even if you don't use the free mega blaziken or mega lucario you get for free
>even if you don't use the free mega blaziken
The only way you have that is if you bought the games at launch.
I hate Lucario
And why would other X/Y reasons be my ideal Pokemon games?
You asked for the easiest game and they're definitely it, why do you need more reasons?
OK well
What would my team be in Kalos?
>I hate fairy type
>anti-fairy type team
>only ultra effective pokemon against Fairy type
>only pokemon resistant to Fairy type
>i hate sylveon
>I hate mega evolutions
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/plan/#xy
the parameters you've laid out have absolutely zero basis in reasonable thought, so nobody is going to be particularly inclined to help you
My goal is to exterminate all the fairy type pokemon on earth
and I need a team to eradicate all the fairies
it's just some wannabe lolcow he repeats this shit constantly
I'm just looking for a Team that is totally anti-fairy type
It's the only thing I ask
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/plan/#xy
keep your unfunny roleplay on /vp/ where it belongs
and the reason you're doing this is incomprehensible to every human with a functioning brain
https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner/plan/#xy+delphox+gardevoir+meowstic-female+goodra+lopunny+froslass
Did you forget what type Gardevoir is in gen 6?
Huh, what? Oh, I couldn't care less about your dumb-ass requirements.
I just wanted to create a team of the sexiest mons in the game.
u failed that too
Fairy has existed for over a decade now and I still don't really accept it as a new type, especially the retroactive type changes.
Knowing Gen 4 is almost 20 years old make me want to fricking kill myself.
misty
https://projectpokemon.org/home/forums/topic/52294-pok%C3%A9mon-renegade-platinum/
Everybody in this thread knows about Renegade Platinum, right?
Drayano basically just makes "Pokemon, but for grownups, and with no bullshit."
All 493 pokemon available in some form in a lore appropriate way
All trainiers rebalanced. All trainers now use gym leader AI, and gym leaders have well composed teams
Pokemon movesets and stats, and evolution requirements rebalanced so that every pokemon has at least a niche use instead of some pokemon being totally useless.
And again, all of nintendo's bullshit to make you pester your friends or check in daily is gone. Eggs hatch faster, move tutors and EV training is available basically for free. TMs are infinite, etc. The idea being that you can basically "respec" a pokemon in very short order, notwithstanding its nature and IVs.
All counterbalanced by the fact that, again, ALL trainers are able to play with all of their brain cells and gym leaders in particular can't be swept by a single pokemon with a type advantage.
I hadn't played pokemon in well over a decade when I downloaded it on a friend's recommendation and it was like experiencing pokemon the way it was meant to be played.
>you pester your friends or check in daily is gone. Eggs hatch faster, move tutors and EV training is available basically for free. TMs are infinite, etc. The idea being that you can basically "respec" a pokemon in very short order, notwithstanding its nature and IVs.
soulless slop
>Pokemon but with competitive minmaxing bullshit for every battle
"No!"
I played the black romhack the guy did. It was a fun novelty but the late game becomes fricking unbearable because you have to run back to get healed or switch pokemon after every fight around victory road since each trainer comes with 6 fully comp built pokemon that you have to basically counterpick.
but anon, ace trainers in victory road are training to take on the elite four! Do you think they'd just be walking around with two-pokemon teams and maybe a fully evolved starter?
>smogon autism
thats a no from me dawg
you as well
I enjoyed the original storm silver and left renegade plat and blaze black 2 halfway through, every trainer having a full team of 6 min maxed mons get really tedious and makes going through a new route a chore
It's nice but you end up going though half the game and then every trainer has a full team of 6 pokemon that are ev iv trained etc and it just becomes a slog to playthrough.
I only did the Pokestar Studios stuff in BW2 just to see all the cute outfits for Rosa
I wanted to see what I could get out of it and all I got was a room with internet references.
It's weird how most of the complaints about Pokemon have shifted from the lack of content, shitty graphics and animations, short campaigns, lack of difficulty, removed pokemon, dev lies, etc
to what amounts to
>the game is too soulful
>I should just have everything handed to me for free with no effort
>I am entitled to filling out my dex
>I don't want my Pokemon to participate in my adventure
I wonder what changed? I'm guessing the people who actually wanted Pokemon to improve got fed up and left long ago?
>what changed?
People that want their games to be good have been rapidly moving away from this series.
The shitposting around Pokemon is so pervasive and long-lived that it's actually managed to quell some dissent. People are tired of voicing what's obviously true to no avail for the millionth fricking thread.
the people still complaining now don't play the games and just want to complain for attention
This right here how many times when a new monster catching game pops up and someone screeches up the streets its the next pokemon killer and then nothing happens but new thing falls into obscurity due to lack of interest or somehow being worse than pokemon.
Rampant genwars have divided the fanbase in two, mostly shaping along the lines of gens 1-5 vs 6-9, generally speaking the 1-5 crowd want more difficulty and for things to be taken more seriously while the 6-9 crowd cares mostly for QoL and online.
Feel free to call this an unpopular opinion but I think
>I want the video game to give me everything I want for free!
and
>I don't think Pokemon should lock a certain Pokemon behind four random tiles that change every day and you have to fish in one of those exact four exact tiles for a small chance of finding it and the game never explains this to you or gives you any kind of indication that it exists.
are not the same thing
A photograph of a DS would have been impressive. An emulator screenshot? Really? Who the frick cares?
here’s mine i got some months ago 🙂
Impressive... very nice.
thanks. fricker took like a month to get, didn’t even know about the TID/SID tool either. First time I used it, I got him on a tree i was already checking everyday lol.
let's see Paul Anon's DS
i dont feel like i spent more time on any pokemon other than relicanth. i dont know if its actually a pain in the ass or if my autisim simply isn't that advanced but this is what i think of when i think 'annoying to obtain'.
He can only be found underwater and has a low encounter rate (5%) It's annoying but not as annoying as other annoying pokemon. Chimecho from the same game was worse since it only has a 2% rate.
I know some pokemon are locked behind post game or something else to make completing the pokedex more of a challenge, but it has the unfortunate side effect of making these mons completely unviable for a casual run because you've already beaten most of the game by the time you can get them.
That being said, how would you fix this without ruining pokedex progression?
trade over eggs after you beat the game and replay it duh
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