I actually didn't know what red wall was until one anon pointed out how similar my AI images looked to something you would see on redwall, i guess if it's like Dragon's Lair or Kenshi I'll be down to play it.
as much as id want a redwall game, this tbh.
if we *could* get a good redwall game, im down for it. i just know it wouldnt be a good one in todays time, were it to happen.
A faithful adaptation would basically be Kingdom Come with animal people, and I doubt there's much of a market for that. Redwall doesn't have any high fantasy or anything, it doesn't even have magic
Armello is probably the closest thing youll get. Im sure they even took some inspiration from Redwall.
It's a mostly dead boardgame, however. But I still find matches pretty quick despite that.
There aren't that many giant creatures in Redwall, they mostly keep real life proportions. That's why badgers and foxes and whatnot are so powerful and dangerous compared to mice and squirrels
Yeah same in Sekiro. Almost all non boss enemies range from twice your size to like half your size. The few real giants are bosses like the rats or otters are to the churchmice in Redwall
a badger or a fox is pretty giant compared to a mouse which is why the sizes clearly aren't meant to be realistic since there's no way a badger and a mouse would be comfortable living in a space built for one or the other, and no way a mouse would be able to threaten a fox or a cat under any circumstances, regardless of whether they had Mouse Excalibur
I mean yeah it's not 1:1 real life proportions but general rules apply, like mice and squirrels and whatnot tend to be the smallest, then hares and otters, then badgers, etc. Vermin sizes seem to vary but it seems like most of them are bigger on average than the "good" animals, and some are very large like foxes and bobcats
Isn't that more like a stealth/puzzle game? I played a little of it but my toaster could barely run it so I didn't get very far. It did have some Redwall vibes from what I remember though
>Isn't that more like a stealth/puzzle game?
So like most of the Redwall books I can remember?
It's an older style of fantasy where a big chunk of the story isn't fighting
the VAST majority of the first Redwall book is Matthias and Methuselah trying to figure out the mystery of where Martin's sword is. Redwall books are either adventure novels with a mystery B-plot or mysteries with an adventure B-plot
Not at all, nearly every Redwall book has a war or big battle in it and probably a splid half of them are purely about war. Most of the animals and each species' general temperament are all based off people Jacques knew when he was in the english navy
yeah, at the end. They're primarily about plucky small rodents going on a grand adventure to get some thingamajig that will save the Abbey from the Predator-of-the-Week
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Lord Brocktree was about the reestablishment of Salamandastron as a war fortress and involves a long seige against the mountain by a giant army, an assassination attempt, PoWs, a whole B plot about Ungat Trunn's army and the heinous shit they get up to as effectively an allegory for the mongol golden horde, and it ends with a massive bloody battle that culminates with Brocktree snapping Trunn's spine and leaving him to die paralyzed on the beach surrounded by the corpses of his men
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alright it's either plucky small rodents going on a grand adventure to get some thingamajig that will save the Abbey or a badger accompanied by plucky small(er) rodents going on a vision quest to save Salamandastron
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Some of them are indeed whimsical lighthearted adventures but quite a few are very grisly war stories
I haven't read the first book in years and years so I don't remember, but in all the others otters are firmly cemented "good" animals like mice and hares
I want it just so I can finally know how the songs are supposed to sound. I don't know if I was just dumb as a kid and was supposed to make up melodies for them, but the amount of songs in the books were weird for me,
I always figured most of them were supposed to sound like sea shanties or other military songs, Jacques was in the navy and the books are partially based on his experience there
I had the entire series at one point, gave them all to my mid-functioning autistic cousin about a decade ago, I heard he still re-reads them over and over to this day so I'm glad they are being enjoyed.
Man, the whole idea that some species were just always villainous always bothered me. I really thought that outcast of redwall was going to finally resolve that issue for me, but it ended up being one of my least favorite books in the series. Honestly I liked a lot of books in the series but the ones that REALLY stuck with me were the two that I had on cassette tapes that I listened to over and over, Redwall and Martin the Warrior. The ending of Martin the Warrior in particular fricked me up, but I put myself through it regularly for ages for some reason.
There's that one searat in I believe Pearls of Lutra who joins the good guys in the end, but yeah, the vermin are usually like orcs and are always evil.
There were a couple rats I think that joined the Redwall animals in one book, they were still vulgar and rude but ended up being genuine good guys in the end
The occasional exceptions make me think that Brian just avoided it generally so as not to confuse kids. But the one book with the weasel or whoever that turns bad because "it was in his blood" kind of stands out.
That was the ferret Veil in Outcast of Redwall, he was the son of an evil warlord. He was a bastard despite the Redwall animals trying to raise him properly in a good environment, but he did eventually sacrifice himself to save his foster sister's life at the end
I hate it because the cool stuff is never playable. I can't stand humans with pointy ears style shit. Plus, like Tolkien, I find the idea of free will incompatible with always evil.
Our best hope would be after Netflix releases their TV series. If that makes some Redwall hype then we might see a game.
Not redwall but have you heard of Fuga? It might scratch that itch.
soon one can hope. Moss looks cool but iirc its one of those weird VR 2.5d games where you just spectate from above in VR
nta but fuga seems kinda steampunky. i want something classic fantasy like redwall
I haven't but I'm willing to try. What's the story and game play like?
Its a steampunk war tactical rpg game ljke
said but I think it'll scratch that itch for you.
I actually didn't know what red wall was until one anon pointed out how similar my AI images looked to something you would see on redwall, i guess if it's like Dragon's Lair or Kenshi I'll be down to play it.
I don't trust any studio to make a faithful Redwall adaptation. Leave it alone
as much as id want a redwall game, this tbh.
if we *could* get a good redwall game, im down for it. i just know it wouldnt be a good one in todays time, were it to happen.
A faithful adaptation would basically be Kingdom Come with animal people, and I doubt there's much of a market for that. Redwall doesn't have any high fantasy or anything, it doesn't even have magic
I'll settle for a Mouseguard game
best bet is s Zelda Classic fangame with custom sprites
Armello is probably the closest thing youll get. Im sure they even took some inspiration from Redwall.
It's a mostly dead boardgame, however. But I still find matches pretty quick despite that.
It's not about animals in a church but I found Sekiro had weird Redwall similarities
>spiritualist plot
>medieval barbarity coming to what was a peaceful place
>usually outsized by monstrous enemies
>big fricking snake
Not a perfect fit but it rhymed a little
There aren't that many giant creatures in Redwall, they mostly keep real life proportions. That's why badgers and foxes and whatnot are so powerful and dangerous compared to mice and squirrels
Yeah same in Sekiro. Almost all non boss enemies range from twice your size to like half your size. The few real giants are bosses like the rats or otters are to the churchmice in Redwall
a badger or a fox is pretty giant compared to a mouse which is why the sizes clearly aren't meant to be realistic since there's no way a badger and a mouse would be comfortable living in a space built for one or the other, and no way a mouse would be able to threaten a fox or a cat under any circumstances, regardless of whether they had Mouse Excalibur
I mean yeah it's not 1:1 real life proportions but general rules apply, like mice and squirrels and whatnot tend to be the smallest, then hares and otters, then badgers, etc. Vermin sizes seem to vary but it seems like most of them are bigger on average than the "good" animals, and some are very large like foxes and bobcats
play mausritter
Ghost of a Tail is pretty Redwall right?
Forgot pic and got the name wrong. It's Ghost of a Tale. Mousey Redwall Soulslike.
Isn't that more like a stealth/puzzle game? I played a little of it but my toaster could barely run it so I didn't get very far. It did have some Redwall vibes from what I remember though
>Isn't that more like a stealth/puzzle game?
So like most of the Redwall books I can remember?
It's an older style of fantasy where a big chunk of the story isn't fighting
Nah most of the Redwall books were action/adventure books. The very first one's climax is a siege of the abbey
Yes that's the climax of the story
Most of the story is the siege of the abbey and unraveling the lore around Martin
the VAST majority of the first Redwall book is Matthias and Methuselah trying to figure out the mystery of where Martin's sword is. Redwall books are either adventure novels with a mystery B-plot or mysteries with an adventure B-plot
Not at all, nearly every Redwall book has a war or big battle in it and probably a splid half of them are purely about war. Most of the animals and each species' general temperament are all based off people Jacques knew when he was in the english navy
yeah, at the end. They're primarily about plucky small rodents going on a grand adventure to get some thingamajig that will save the Abbey from the Predator-of-the-Week
Lord Brocktree was about the reestablishment of Salamandastron as a war fortress and involves a long seige against the mountain by a giant army, an assassination attempt, PoWs, a whole B plot about Ungat Trunn's army and the heinous shit they get up to as effectively an allegory for the mongol golden horde, and it ends with a massive bloody battle that culminates with Brocktree snapping Trunn's spine and leaving him to die paralyzed on the beach surrounded by the corpses of his men
alright it's either plucky small rodents going on a grand adventure to get some thingamajig that will save the Abbey or a badger accompanied by plucky small(er) rodents going on a vision quest to save Salamandastron
Some of them are indeed whimsical lighthearted adventures but quite a few are very grisly war stories
at the end
>Crosstail hearts
I don't know why this shitpost half story in a game no one played stuck with me for so long but it did.
>Redwall game when?
About 5 years ago.
did jannies delete the last thread?
It was really comfy...
This thread now belongs to Ungatt Trunn and his Earthshaking Army.
*blocks your path*
No, blocks YOUR path.
*blocks your path*
I really need to reread the series. Forgot all about that little guy.
Tagg is great, one of my favorite protagonists in the series
my tagger
taggerung was based. loved when they gave him excalibur but he's like this is kinda small.
Luke is a really cool name, probably better even than Chad
Which was the one with the otter gypsy who turns good
Otters are all good
I thought the otters were on Cluney's side as mercs
No, his army was composed of rats, ferrets, weasels, and stoats. Still have no fricking clue what a stoat is.
T. OP rereading Redwall currently
Hmm it has been like 20 years
What was the plot of the book where the otter was the Nerevarine or whatever the hero reincarnation is called?
No idea, I'm still rereading the first book. I know what you're talking about though, but I haven't read them in about 20 years.
Sounds like Taggerung
Behold, a terrifying member of the horde.
Stoats are kind of like weasels
they're like weasels and ferrets but different
I haven't read the first book in years and years so I don't remember, but in all the others otters are firmly cemented "good" animals like mice and hares
Ghost of a Tale is pretty close. It was a fun stealth/puzzle game though the second half dropped in quality. Sequel coming soon.
I want it just so I can finally know how the songs are supposed to sound. I don't know if I was just dumb as a kid and was supposed to make up melodies for them, but the amount of songs in the books were weird for me,
I always figured most of them were supposed to sound like sea shanties or other military songs, Jacques was in the navy and the books are partially based on his experience there
Obligatory for Redwall thread: https://www.somethingawful.com/news/bargain-book-bin-3/
I had the entire series at one point, gave them all to my mid-functioning autistic cousin about a decade ago, I heard he still re-reads them over and over to this day so I'm glad they are being enjoyed.
Rabbit dragoons when
LOGALOGALOGALOG
We weren't fightin', we were debatin'
Man, the whole idea that some species were just always villainous always bothered me. I really thought that outcast of redwall was going to finally resolve that issue for me, but it ended up being one of my least favorite books in the series. Honestly I liked a lot of books in the series but the ones that REALLY stuck with me were the two that I had on cassette tapes that I listened to over and over, Redwall and Martin the Warrior. The ending of Martin the Warrior in particular fricked me up, but I put myself through it regularly for ages for some reason.
There's that one searat in I believe Pearls of Lutra who joins the good guys in the end, but yeah, the vermin are usually like orcs and are always evil.
There were a couple rats I think that joined the Redwall animals in one book, they were still vulgar and rude but ended up being genuine good guys in the end
The occasional exceptions make me think that Brian just avoided it generally so as not to confuse kids. But the one book with the weasel or whoever that turns bad because "it was in his blood" kind of stands out.
That was the ferret Veil in Outcast of Redwall, he was the son of an evil warlord. He was a bastard despite the Redwall animals trying to raise him properly in a good environment, but he did eventually sacrifice himself to save his foster sister's life at the end
After seeing the inverse in fantasy settings, I love that black-and-white mentality with regards to races because it is so rare.
Didn't D&D declare the idea of evil fantasy races was racist recently
half races, but close.
I hate it because the cool stuff is never playable. I can't stand humans with pointy ears style shit. Plus, like Tolkien, I find the idea of free will incompatible with always evil.
Just like in real life. Some blood are just destined to be evil
WHAT THE FRICK IS A STOAT?!?!!?
based otters. i always wanted to try their hot root shrimp soup.
Can't forget the army of cannibal ermines in Rakkety Tam.
Unironically liked how the protag genuinely didn't stand a chance and only won because he sharpened the edge of his shield
Rakkety Tam was the one about the scottish squirrel wasn't it? I don't think I ever finished that one
Dynasty Warriors with mice