>overkill PC setups for playing Minecraft and other casual games >buying platinum editions and other microtransactions >buying AAA slop >buying 20$ indie games with 3 hours of gameplay
Poorhomosexualry at least pushes people to play retro games that are generally better than most modern games because retro games can run on weaker computers.
This really stings.
When you're a kid. But now I understand that most of the world is "poor." Yeah, it blows when you can't afford something like a vacation, but playing video games for free is anything but embarrassing.
>Thanks to corporate ghouls chasing imaginary dollars they raise the price of their product to feel comfortable with the potential return to their investment
Nope, corporate greed. Video-games are not worth more than 40 dollarydoos at most. You don't just pay for games with your money, but also with the time YOU invest into them. If the game's bad and ends up unfinished you've effectively paid double as that time has been wasted and not spent soaking in a good story or actually y'know having valuable, golden FUN where the value of the fun outweighs the cost of an hour. Not that a simpleton like you could understand.
piracy is the boogeyman for big billion dollar industries to wrench sympathy points from the masses.
what's funny is that it is more likely the opposite is true as modern Denuvo is borderline uncrackable and there wasn't any fanfare from companies for getting more sales, all while making 70 dollars the norm, not to mention console piracy is basically non existent since last gen.
>the first game that pushed $70 shit was a PS4 exclusive >and $70 became mainstream because SNOYS supported it by buying $70 console exclusives
Why are corporate drones such disingenuous frickwits?
Nope, corporate greed. Video-games are not worth more than 40 dollarydoos at most. You don't just pay for games with your money, but also with the time YOU invest into them. If the game's bad and ends up unfinished you've effectively paid double as that time has been wasted and not spent soaking in a good story or actually y'know having valuable, golden FUN where the value of the fun outweighs the cost of an hour. Not that a simpleton like you could understand.
>If we give them what they want then maybe they'll be nicer to us!
Literal slave mentality, I hope games cost $100 next gen for homosexuals like you.
This has nothing to do with piracy or greed and everything to do with trying to game sale percentages.
Prices should never go up, only down, prices go up because the government prints money for minimum inflation goals to tax us on the natural deflation of growing markets
games have been $60 since around 2005. because of sonic inflation, the same game would be $94 today. games have been getting cheaper, you've just been getting poorer, faster.
According to Biden and economists, the U.S. economy is actually doing superbly good right now, people don’t feel the wealth because it hasn’t been properly allocated to the point that Middle Class America feels the difference. We’re living a modern Roaring 20s really.
As piracy fell in popularity due to the improvements and increasing ease of use of early digital distribution services and platforms, the prices NEVER once came down. In fact the opposite seems to have been true, the lower the rates of piracy fell, the faster the prices of software and digital goods kept rising.
This is because... Piracy is competition. The ultimate competition.
The lack of this competition the lack of piracy left behind means that the companies have no reason to keep prices in check, when the consumer has less choice, when the consumer has no alternatives, it means to companies that it's time to hike the prices up faster, not to lower them. More money is more money.
Piracy means power to the consumer, even if the individual consumer might not be a pirate himself.
I'm not advocating for piracy tho, I would never, but if one would want for digital distribution to improve and for prices to come down, they could want piracy to increase in popularity, not to decrease.
The only way companies reward customer loyalty, is by charging you more, because to them you are a proven fricking sucker.
>the price of games rises because of.......people stealing games? >the price of food rises because of......people stealing food? >the price of housing rises because of......people stealing houses?
wake up homie
stealing electronic copies isn't real stealing like those other examples. When you torrent some game from piratebay you're not lowering the supply of games in the world.
Lies lies lies lies.
Do you meant to say that all this time I spent downloading and deleting game copies just to download and delete them again in hopes of making a certain israelite company go billions in debt was just a fool's errand?
I don't believe in you.
The point still stands. I gave them money for something, they took it back from me, and I didn't get my money back. How is this not theft?
>W-WELL THIS FLIMSY PIECE OF PAPER SAID
Theft is theft. No words can change that. You said it yourself.
Stop trying to deny it. That's not how the world works and you know it. You might certainly be right, but you have no power. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
I will stop being ironic, but that's exactly it.
You might think it makes no sense, but you will be called a thief and government authorities will sanction you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh, it makes sense. It's the same logic that makes me a thief by watching a movie with a friend, since two people are enjoying a movie for the price of one dvd. It's not morally theft, just kvetching by corporations that they're not making as much money as they want.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, since you own the physical copy.
Streaming services? Watching with friends isn't stealing, what they consider stealing is account sharing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, since you own the physical copy.
Streaming services? Watching with friends isn't stealing, what they consider stealing is account sharing.
To further clarify, you didn't steal the dvd, or didn't pirate the movie (which is for some weird reason considered stealing so I'll just leave it here): so it's isn't stealing.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, since you own the physical copy.
Streaming services? Watching with friends isn't stealing, what they consider stealing is account sharing.
I'm still streaming it to another friend without them paying. Objectively they get the service without paying for it. Either you condemn that as theft, or you admit that the whole system is messed up.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's what I'm implying, the "system" is made up of arbitrary and inconsistent codes.
But what can you do about it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>what can you do about it
It's better to die standing than to live on your knees.
They should be wrong. They're not. The industry's way of fighting piracy is moronic. They degrade their own products with third party tools that don't work and render the 'approved' version of the product inferior to the 'illicit' version. If the only printed copies licensed by the King's Men of Shakespeare were in quarto, had random chunks of plays missing, you had to take the book back to the printer for permission to read the missing sections, while you did you were forced to carry a large bag of money in your pocket through the seediest alleys in London where you could get robbed, and the cover was starting to rot and fall apart with the ever present threat of the King's Men shutting down the office, all while Pip McPippereson is making his own handsomely leatherbound editions in large Folio format on Somerset wove with really nice engravings his friend Gus made for each play and he's charging a fraction as much, you'd have a situation that's almost analogous to the present. The difference of course being it's actually worse; even a defective copy of Shakespeare is still a physical book.
Cost is not the limit of price. It never has been, it never will be. If cost is not the limit of price, imaginary cost is not the limit of price either.
Don't lie, you buygays love paying more. That's why you're buygays. Thank god for pirates driving the cost up and forcing devs to implement kernel anti-cheat and denuvo on everything, you guys love it all!
>You'll always have piracy >The only way to not have piracy is if your game is dead >A moderate amount of piracy can be considered attractive >It's all about the correct distribution of piracy
Yeah that seems about right.
Updates frick up my mods
Fricking Beatsaber. >update that does nothing but break all the mods
I have pirated countless games so my mods don't get fricked. Black folk could let me downgrade versions on steam like 7days does but publishers don't enable it. I will not pay and pirate if I can't downgrade
WOW THIS IS REALLY SMART ANALOGY!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!!!!! No but seriously man. 🙂 really good job with this post. I’m being serious 🙂 this is really smart, and you should feel proud of yourself. Keep it up!
That first point is already wrong. In most western countries it's completely fine to download shit for personal use, what they always try to get you for is the sharing of it.
>misinformation
Copying is not theft, especially "copying" the bought imaginary "privileged" to "use" the software that you don;t even own. Funny how they present their own misinformation when they use such phrases as "Own the authentic game" when it's not even possible in the first place to do so by the very fricking laws they're coping with.
>How does nintendo feel about the emergence of video game emulators?
They bought 49% of a company that backwards engineered their little shitboxes and had them make games for them.
>Hurts Nintendo's goodwill >By doing the same thing by emulating their own software on other consoles and selling you the same game over and over again
>does not lead to more sales >even if the game in question isn't sold by us anymore or we won't sell it to a US market for horseshit reasons.
>The problem is that's illegal
That is a description of the facts, but not a story or explanation can be conjured that doesn't make you look like a greedy shit company.
>Famous for bringing back to life it's popular characters
No. No you are not rofl. You shat on squaresoft and rpg's and said they were for depressed gamers and then revived Fire Emblem and Super mario RPG in a depressing period of time.
>The current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status
Which tells us what you care about more.
Nintendo is welcome to come to Australia and sue whoever they like for downloading "illegal" game ROMs, however thanks to Mathew McConoughey it will cost them at least 100k to do so and the most they can recover is the original cost of the game.
>we're not commercially exploiting the product but you can't download it either :^)
makes me want to pirate out of spite.
Also, what a tragic mistake on the part of corporate morons >make pirates iconic, instantly recognizable, cool, rugged, manly and timeless rogues romanticized through every possible fiction format and multiple documentaries >Call people who bootleg software, as in make unlicensed copies for illicit sale and then everyone who downloads unlicensed copies "Pirates"
Piracy is justified as a way to try out a game to make sure it actually runs on your system.
Dumbass devs stopped making demos and now you need to risk the 2 hour period and hope that there isn't some later section of the game that runs like garbage on your rig.
Piracy is a non-factor. Industry has this mistaken notion that I'll buy the game if I can't pirate it. No, I'll just ignore it and eventually forget it even exists if I don't get it for a year or so. Pirate copy is NOT a lost sale.
Yeah, which is why I'm only okay with this if I'm getting it for pennies on the dollar. An indie game though? Not only might the game actually deserve those dollars, I actually want the devs to have my money in that case.
>No, I'll just ignore it and eventually forget it even exists if I don't get it for a year or so.
Truer words were never spoken. There are simply so many games coming out and I'm not ten anymore to get hyped about games.
If you're poor, or you have to jump through unreasonable hoops (including paying ridiculous sums for a 30-year-old game), while getting a worse experience when doing it legitimately, then piracy is good.
If you have the means, and it's widely available at a reasonable price, without any strings or caveats, and you still pirate, then that's scummy.
I use piracy for shit I simply cannot get otherwise. Discworld Noir is my favorite P&C adventure, but short of tracking down a used physical copy there's no one for me to actually give money to in order to buy the game from. I'm perfectly willing to do that, but so many games are simply stuck in publishing limbos that I cannot.
Piracy is for when capitalism fails. It's there to prevent $20 subscription fees to five layers of launchers each with their own draconian DRM or activation systems just to access some ancient game.
I love pirating videogames, they simply don't deserve my money. Not what happened after No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk. Also don't forget all the microtransactions and whatnot. All those studios should close down because of this and at last the white man is free of the shekels of videogames and starts being great again.
This basically, Tekken 8's demo made me go eww, its nothing like it used to be, so $70 dodged right there, literal DOA 6 tekken reskin flopslop not even having the blocking mechanics of DOA which let you parry high, mid, low strikes if you knew it was coming, one of the good stealable ideas from that trash series.
>its nothing like it used to be > not even having the blocking mechanics of DOA which let you parry high, mid, low strikes
you never played a tekken yu perma stuck teal rank shitter.
Piracy is only okay if you are israeli, and you're pirating games made by goyim. If you're a goy, it is your obligation to give money to the israeli people.
the people who make good games don't gain anything from a sale, they're contractual workers
also every good dev company god bought up and turned to shit despite earnings going up every year for the last 2 decades.
How can you explain this?
small independent companies don't make money from selling games?
and even if that were true, the principle still holds: if a good game doesn't make a profit, the people who made it would not be hired back to make more.
the only meaningful market signal to make more of something good is to have it be profitable.
good companies getting bought up and turning to shit is the other side of the same rule - gamers being undiscerning spineless worms who buy based on brand name, not quality
>someone else's service or intellectual property
except we're talking about commodities. Products. Things that can be bought, sold, traded and owned.
Videogames cant be owned. Ergo, they cant be stolen. Simple as.
>intellectual property
no such thing. that which is not scarce is not property.
Ideas which can be turned into a commodity and sold, is in fact property. So yes, pirating is theft. Your are stealing someone's idea without their permission.
copyright doesn't protect ideas, only their expressions in a concrete form. and no, ideas can't be stolen, since you can't be deprived of the idea. same goes for digital data, a song, a concept, etc.
3 months ago
Anonymous
A video game, it's software, it's licenses, are ideas turned into a concrete form, Into a tangible product with a market and consumers. There is a monetary benefit involved for the creators of an IP. You're making it like these printed videos games are just ideas floating in the aether.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Printed physical copies *are* property, and can be stolen, sure, but digital data isn't. Of course IP creators can and should make money off their creations, but that doesn't make software piracy stealing. You were the one that said that *ideas* were being stolen, I pointed out that not even a dumb concept like copyright claims to protect something like ideas.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Digital data is property. It's an idea from someones mind, that's then processed with computers, which are made of scarce resources and people. You are being so bad faith at this point by being pedantic on the word "idea". You bring up digital copyright only applies to concrete forms, then I proceed to show you how a video game product is an idea turned into a concrete creation, yet you still try to scoot around the fact. So yes Piracy is immoral and theft. You are not owed someone else's creation.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Computers are scarce. That doesn't make digital data scarce. Of course a video game is a concrete creation, and thus protected by copyright. My point is that I'm against copyright, because a "concrete creation" is not inherently scarce. I don't see what "owing" has to do with it, there's no debt where nothing was taken away.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How is digital data stored? On Servers and storage devices that are made of scarce resources. Are you arguing, an infinite amount of digital data can be produced? Time for a human is scarce, Humans are the ones that program the software for digital data to exist. By you illegally downloading a video game you are taking away their work put into the software. You feel owed to their free labor, you are arguing for slavery basically. So you want slavery and theft.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you are woefully uneducated as to how developers are paid for their work, moron anon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No u
3 months ago
Anonymous
Good job being a thieving homosexual and slavery advocate.
3 months ago
Anonymous
A good does not itself become scarce by being the result of the application of limited resources or being stored on scarce devices. No matter how many other people copy the result of your work, you still have it, therefore nothing is taken away. Each copy contains the full result of the work. Slavery is forced labor, embarrassing of you to even try to make a connection here.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Slavery is wanting someone's labor for free against their will. That's what you're engaging in at this point.
You don't own the right to a configuration of on/off states in digital memory. Any claim you do is a construct of society. You can argue the virtue of having this kind of system to protect the ability for a creator to make a profit, but intellectual property as a social construct is archaic, outdated, and ultimately does not benefit the individual anywhere near as much as it does corporations and estates who abuse these "rights" ignoring the right to public domain and the general concept of the collective conscious. If you were to take intellectual property to its logical conclusion, you would be paying the families of the people who first invented the words you use on the daily, and royalties to the descendants of mathematicians, and really dishing out pennies for any thought you ever have that is at all inspired by your surroundings in society.
Copying data for someone else to use is also not theft in any way. Again, you can argue for the benefits restricting this right has for creators, but usually these benefits just go to a corporation. And what does the public get for it? Takedowns of games more than 20 years old because someone wants to milk another rerelease of a game that has been near flawlessly emulatable since the 90s.
At some point it has to be okay for the public to own a work. 75 years after the author's death is far too long and is for a society that didn't imagine the internet.
You try frame my argument by saying the logical conclusion is that we must compensate every single inventor of an idea, but then proceed to debunk yourself by admitting the laws on the book give an expiration on IPs.
Such a strawman. At this point you guys aren't even seriously trying to defend pirating. You want to morally justify theft.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Slavery is wanting someone's labor for free against their will.
lmao, wanting is not a crime, only doing. I want Sydney Sweeney to rub her fat breasts in my face, but I do not become a slaver until I make her my property and force her to do so.
3 months ago
Anonymous
My logic is sound. To follow the logic of Intellectual Property to its conclusion is to expand the laws well past their expiration. Why let the laws expire in the first place when there are original ideas to be paid for? The distant relatives of the people who made the words we use could be collecting royalties! Obviously a cutoff does exist. Its existence is arbitrary and ultimately comes far too late to have any public benefit. Oh hey look, we all finally own B&W Mickey Mouse. Hooray? Its ridiculous to think a corporation should have exclusive rights to distribute a work after creatives leave the company, let alone 75 years after the author dies.
Your argument on the other hand is literally the straw man fallacy. Restructuring my argument into something easier to argue with in an attempt to brush off my stronger points.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Now you're just inventing shit by theorizing about IP expiration dates being changed, when the law has been clear cut for a century at this point. Fricking moron. Im realizing this thread is just low iq thieves lmao. You still can't even come up with a moral argument. You want people's ideas and labor for free, you are a selfish piece of shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Straw man. Ad hominem.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You want to sit on your ass all day play vidya for free without compensating the labor put into the product. Fricking worthless homosexual thief.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Slavery is depriving someone of their freedom. Piracy does not deprive anyone of anything they have.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You don't own the right to a configuration of on/off states in digital memory. Any claim you do is a construct of society. You can argue the virtue of having this kind of system to protect the ability for a creator to make a profit, but intellectual property as a social construct is archaic, outdated, and ultimately does not benefit the individual anywhere near as much as it does corporations and estates who abuse these "rights" ignoring the right to public domain and the general concept of the collective conscious. If you were to take intellectual property to its logical conclusion, you would be paying the families of the people who first invented the words you use on the daily, and royalties to the descendants of mathematicians, and really dishing out pennies for any thought you ever have that is at all inspired by your surroundings in society.
Copying data for someone else to use is also not theft in any way. Again, you can argue for the benefits restricting this right has for creators, but usually these benefits just go to a corporation. And what does the public get for it? Takedowns of games more than 20 years old because someone wants to milk another rerelease of a game that has been near flawlessly emulatable since the 90s.
At some point it has to be okay for the public to own a work. 75 years after the author's death is far too long and is for a society that didn't imagine the internet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I fully agree.
50 years is already mode than enough for owning a work.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Divide that by five and throw in public rights to remove malware like denuvo and then we have an agreement.
But that is another problem isn't it? Any bid to reclaim public domain puts up an arbitrary set of rules against a broken system when the underlying problem is that copyright itself is busted and needs to be thrown out, rewritten and re imagined.
>data is sold as goods >take data for free >stealing goods
Also you can steal air too, canned air is actually sold as a souvenir. As stupid of a concept it is to sell a canned air, it's uncivilized to just take it from a store just because its a stupid concept.
If you don't agree with the product just don't buy it. It's simple as that
>data is sold as goods >except it's not >the data bought as goods can be taken away from the buyer at any time for no reason at all >ergo he does not own the data he bought as goods >therefore data cannot be bought or sold as goods since it cannot be owned >meaning it cannot be stolen either
if you don't like how its sold just don't buy it, you can't have your cake and eat it too
stop coming up with excuses to justify stealing, you sound like a black person, if you want to steal its better to just embrace it
>b...but aktually tekhnically it not stealing
that's called an excuse moron
>if you don't like how its sold just don't buy it
Exactly. I dont. And that's what makes you so mad. >REEEE STEALING STEALING STEALING
Spare me your seething and answer my question. How can you steal a commodity that cant be owned, bought, traded or sold?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't buy moronic shit either, but I don't find a way to play them because I'm not a manchild
3 months ago
Anonymous
>but I don't find a way to play them
didnt ask and dont care what you do with your money >because I'm not a manchild
nah it's because you're too dumb to do it. zoomers are infamously bad with computers
If purchase isn't ownership then piracy isn't theft and if you disagree you're probably the type of consoomer that preorders triple A goyslop, complains about the slop shipping unfinished, then preorders the next serving of slop
Riddle me this then, genius. How is a company able to revoke access to a game I bought, for no reason at all, without giving me a refund? And somehow this doesn't count as theft?
3 months ago
Anonymous
First, (You) didn't buy the game, you bought a license instead.
Second, they don't need a reason to. On most TOS it's stated that they can revoke their licenses whenever they want for whatever made up reason. And you agree to those terms so you can't complain.
If you don't own a physical copy, you are a cuck.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The point still stands. I gave them money for something, they took it back from me, and I didn't get my money back. How is this not theft?
>W-WELL THIS FLIMSY PIECE OF PAPER SAID
Theft is theft. No words can change that. You said it yourself.
>How do you steal something that cant be owned?
This is the question that drives corporate shills up the wall. You can tell they're upset when they threaten you with the law.
Threadly reminder that there has never been a case of a person being jailed for pirating in the Anglosphere. At all.
Piracy is good because:
1. I like free shit
2. It fricks mega corporations
3. It cucks GABEN out of his money
4. I truly own my games, can freely move and copy them and theoretically burn my own physical copies.
5. You can preserve the games forever even if Steam goes down and the internet goes down.
I agree with all but 5. Steam stated they will remove all DRM if they go down. You can also use one of the 100 programs to remove it like my pic rel or do it yourself manually.
Pirategays are the druggays of gaming. Everyone pirates because people want to play games for free, not because they are the Robin Hood of modern times or because they want to kill corpo or because they care about "game preservation" or whatever cope you feel. They do it beccause they are fricking poor. And nobody actually fricking cares if you are poor or not or if you pirate or not or if you breathe or not - but going around like "refute this lol" or advocating it like it's even better than buying games just reeks of insecurity. Every time someone feels like they have to go out of their way to affirm that they are a pirate I assume they live in the boonies in Brazil or a Eastern Europe ghetto starving to death waiting for 2 days straight to download a 2GB troony repack of a freshly cracked game that came out in 2020 on a 10 year old PC that can barely run the game at 5FPS begging for just one more hour of escape in video games while their parents are killing each other in the background crying because they actually hate their life.
I mean, piracy is largely a good thing and I think it's more to reaffirm that Ganker's actual general stance on piracy is in support of it because it has been fashionable for a few years to be counter-culture to Ganker rather than counter-culture to the internet.
Piracy is necessary for preservation, because corps will delist anything for any reason, but I wish people wouldn't do it for games that you can buy cheap.
However, am a complete hypocrite, and pirate movies and TV shows.
valve is only 7.7 billion worth while they steal 30% of dev money. they are going down soon.
>steal 30% of dev money
30% is literally the industry standard, I get it you live in a a turd world country but you are still paying for the same 70 dollar goyslop on your chink store
Monopolies are bad by definition. Copyright is a legal monopoly by definition. Therefor Copyright is bad by definition. If copyright is bad by definition, then the violation of copyright is good by definition. Piracy is therefor a moral imperative.
>*AHEM*
Attention all RIAA israelites and DRM trannies
I will never pay for a song
I will never pay for an album
I will never pay for a movie or television series
I will never pay purchase software
I will never pay subscribe to your streaming site
I will never pay for an "e-book"
and I will never, EVER, watch an advertisement
Piracy is always justified if the consumer is facing anti consumer practices like >no means to purchase the product on current hardware >access of a previously purchased product was taken away somehow >the version currently available is inferior to a previous version in some form
If a developer/publisher is providing the best version of a product for a fair price price compatible with modern hardware pirating loses its justification.
Unfortunately modern times are fulled by the delusion of infinite growth so companies are always trying to find a new way to screw over customers to squeeze just a bit more from our wallets.
80% of this thread never buy videogames in the first place
Post your purchase proof (with REAL NAME) then ill discuss with you. Prove it to me that youre not a Black person.
I love legally supporting my video games by purchasing them, and how do companies repay me?
>um, akshually you don't own your game anyway, now accept the new EULA or say goodbye to your purchase >NO MODDING YOU NAZI FASCIST THIEF! THAT'S OUR PROPERTY! >HOW DARE YOU MODIFY IT TO PLAY ON A HANDHELD WE DIDN'T APPROVE OF! POLICE! ARREST THIS MAN!
I'll still pay for a game if I want to enjoy it, but that's the only obligation anyone has to a company. After that, the game is mine to chop up and rip apart and rebuild and copy and play to the heart's content. If they have a problem with that, then they can kindly explain how they're gonna go bankrupt by me playing some Super Metroid romhacks. At that point it stops being about "y-you're stealing money from the dev" since you already paid them, and now they need to fall back to another cope.
>Hackers are dying off, anti piracy options are getting stronger
Older games already pirated. >windows 11-12 will be able to soon detect piracted software and auto delete it.
Linux >You are not in control.
I will keep as much control as I cxan.
>Expecting people to play old games
Lol >Linux
Shitty outdated software >I will keep as much control as I cxan.
Your body will betray you. No such thing in this life you can control
If I have the files, and have access to the files without DRM or encryption or anything else that is designed to prevent me from accessing and using the files, then I own the game.
Pirates are literally the minority in the grand scheme of things
I did a basic google search of the most pirated video games and all I got was games released in the 7th generation 10+ years ago
No they aren't, multi million dollar corporations have been saying ''the sky is falling'' for 2 decades now and the video gaming industry has grown in revenue 10fold since then
Poorgay.
argument ended without starting
Normally I would disagree but I can't argue with this.
Updates frick up my mods
Frick Crapcom. Piracy is all those homosexuals deserve.
That stopped being an insult when people noticed that poorgays have better tastes in videogames, at least when they aren't playing only F2P games
wtf does that matter lmao cope
>overkill PC setups for playing Minecraft and other casual games
>buying platinum editions and other microtransactions
>buying AAA slop
>buying 20$ indie games with 3 hours of gameplay
Poorhomosexualry at least pushes people to play retro games that are generally better than most modern games because retro games can run on weaker computers.
pirategays btfo
>trips on first post
I am no pirate.... and I will never torrent again.
Damn, after those triples I have to stop pirating.
Black person.
This really stings.
When you're a kid. But now I understand that most of the world is "poor." Yeah, it blows when you can't afford something like a vacation, but playing video games for free is anything but embarrassing.
the video was made by a fat white guy
thanks to piracy we have to pay 70 dollars for games instead of 30
frick pirates
No, that's because of Black folk and israelites.
/thread
>Thanks to corporate ghouls chasing imaginary dollars they raise the price of their product to feel comfortable with the potential return to their investment
Nope, corporate greed. Video-games are not worth more than 40 dollarydoos at most. You don't just pay for games with your money, but also with the time YOU invest into them. If the game's bad and ends up unfinished you've effectively paid double as that time has been wasted and not spent soaking in a good story or actually y'know having valuable, golden FUN where the value of the fun outweighs the cost of an hour. Not that a simpleton like you could understand.
No I don't 🙂
no one's forcing you to pay you stockholm syndrome having Black
not all of us live in Brazil or Russia you humongous mongoloid
Wouldn't they just gouge you even more if piracy didn't exist?
thanks to piracy I have to pay 0 dollars for games instead of 70
Delusion if you think the suits/shareholders wouldn't just pocket the difference if all piracy suddenly died tomorrow.
>If we give them what they want then maybe they'll be nicer to us!
Literal slave mentality, I hope games cost $100 next gen for homosexuals like you.
piracy is the boogeyman for big billion dollar industries to wrench sympathy points from the masses.
what's funny is that it is more likely the opposite is true as modern Denuvo is borderline uncrackable and there wasn't any fanfare from companies for getting more sales, all while making 70 dollars the norm, not to mention console piracy is basically non existent since last gen.
>the first game that pushed $70 shit was a PS4 exclusive
>and $70 became mainstream because SNOYS supported it by buying $70 console exclusives
Why are corporate drones such disingenuous frickwits?
This has nothing to do with piracy or greed and everything to do with trying to game sale percentages.
Prices should never go up, only down, prices go up because the government prints money for minimum inflation goals to tax us on the natural deflation of growing markets
Thank you for contributing and carrying the burden of purchase, moron.
thanks to piracy we have to pay 0 dollars for games instead of 70
ahoy pirates
games have been $60 since around 2005. because of sonic inflation, the same game would be $94 today. games have been getting cheaper, you've just been getting poorer, faster.
According to Biden and economists, the U.S. economy is actually doing superbly good right now, people don’t feel the wealth because it hasn’t been properly allocated to the point that Middle Class America feels the difference. We’re living a modern Roaring 20s really.
>thanks to piracy we have to pay 70 dollars for games instead of 30
thanks to piracy i pay 0 dollars
maybe you should try not being moronic?
Fricking what, you think the fricking israelites would lower the price if everyone bought that shit? Piracy is deader than ever.
As piracy fell in popularity due to the improvements and increasing ease of use of early digital distribution services and platforms, the prices NEVER once came down. In fact the opposite seems to have been true, the lower the rates of piracy fell, the faster the prices of software and digital goods kept rising.
This is because... Piracy is competition. The ultimate competition.
The lack of this competition the lack of piracy left behind means that the companies have no reason to keep prices in check, when the consumer has less choice, when the consumer has no alternatives, it means to companies that it's time to hike the prices up faster, not to lower them. More money is more money.
Piracy means power to the consumer, even if the individual consumer might not be a pirate himself.
I'm not advocating for piracy tho, I would never, but if one would want for digital distribution to improve and for prices to come down, they could want piracy to increase in popularity, not to decrease.
The only way companies reward customer loyalty, is by charging you more, because to them you are a proven fricking sucker.
>the price of games rises because of.......people stealing games?
>the price of food rises because of......people stealing food?
>the price of housing rises because of......people stealing houses?
wake up homie
stealing electronic copies isn't real stealing like those other examples. When you torrent some game from piratebay you're not lowering the supply of games in the world.
Lies lies lies lies.
Do you meant to say that all this time I spent downloading and deleting game copies just to download and delete them again in hopes of making a certain israelite company go billions in debt was just a fool's errand?
I don't believe in you.
Stop trying to deny it. That's not how the world works and you know it. You might certainly be right, but you have no power. You will own nothing and you will be happy.
>you might be right, but you're still a thief because corporations have more money than you
I will stop being ironic, but that's exactly it.
You might think it makes no sense, but you will be called a thief and government authorities will sanction you.
Oh, it makes sense. It's the same logic that makes me a thief by watching a movie with a friend, since two people are enjoying a movie for the price of one dvd. It's not morally theft, just kvetching by corporations that they're not making as much money as they want.
Not really, since you own the physical copy.
Streaming services? Watching with friends isn't stealing, what they consider stealing is account sharing.
To further clarify, you didn't steal the dvd, or didn't pirate the movie (which is for some weird reason considered stealing so I'll just leave it here): so it's isn't stealing.
I'm still streaming it to another friend without them paying. Objectively they get the service without paying for it. Either you condemn that as theft, or you admit that the whole system is messed up.
That's what I'm implying, the "system" is made up of arbitrary and inconsistent codes.
But what can you do about it?
>what can you do about it
It's better to die standing than to live on your knees.
if it wasn't for piracy you would have to pay 100£ with no alternatives
They should be wrong. They're not. The industry's way of fighting piracy is moronic. They degrade their own products with third party tools that don't work and render the 'approved' version of the product inferior to the 'illicit' version. If the only printed copies licensed by the King's Men of Shakespeare were in quarto, had random chunks of plays missing, you had to take the book back to the printer for permission to read the missing sections, while you did you were forced to carry a large bag of money in your pocket through the seediest alleys in London where you could get robbed, and the cover was starting to rot and fall apart with the ever present threat of the King's Men shutting down the office, all while Pip McPippereson is making his own handsomely leatherbound editions in large Folio format on Somerset wove with really nice engravings his friend Gus made for each play and he's charging a fraction as much, you'd have a situation that's almost analogous to the present. The difference of course being it's actually worse; even a defective copy of Shakespeare is still a physical book.
Cost is not the limit of price. It never has been, it never will be. If cost is not the limit of price, imaginary cost is not the limit of price either.
Don't lie, you buygays love paying more. That's why you're buygays. Thank god for pirates driving the cost up and forcing devs to implement kernel anti-cheat and denuvo on everything, you guys love it all!
yes, moron. Blame other regular people and not the billionaires running game publishers
Correlation not causation.
Thanks to Piracy, you get to pay $70 for a game instead of $700. Piracy is the competition keeping prices down.
bidenomic inflation has nothing to do with it im sure. Its only groceries that are more expensive, vidya is surely untouched.
Thanks to companies, you don't even own the games you buy. So how can you steal something which you couldn't own, even if you paid for it?
Name a thing that you truly own.
Ill wait
that doesn't make sense. Piracy isn't like stealing physical copies from a store.
You are welcome
>cuckold pays $70 for a game
>digital copy
Piracy is like fat.
Its bad but doesnt outright kill you unless you let it go out of control and it only goes away via healthy lifestyle choices.
>You'll always have piracy
>The only way to not have piracy is if your game is dead
>A moderate amount of piracy can be considered attractive
>It's all about the correct distribution of piracy
Yeah that seems about right.
Fricking Beatsaber.
>update that does nothing but break all the mods
I have pirated countless games so my mods don't get fricked. Black folk could let me downgrade versions on steam like 7days does but publishers don't enable it. I will not pay and pirate if I can't downgrade
WOW THIS IS REALLY SMART ANALOGY!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB!!!!!!!! No but seriously man. 🙂 really good job with this post. I’m being serious 🙂 this is really smart, and you should feel proud of yourself. Keep it up!
That first point is already wrong. In most western countries it's completely fine to download shit for personal use, what they always try to get you for is the sharing of it.
>misinformation
Copying is not theft, especially "copying" the bought imaginary "privileged" to "use" the software that you don;t even own. Funny how they present their own misinformation when they use such phrases as "Own the authentic game" when it's not even possible in the first place to do so by the very fricking laws they're coping with.
>How does nintendo feel about the emergence of video game emulators?
They bought 49% of a company that backwards engineered their little shitboxes and had them make games for them.
>Hurts Nintendo's goodwill
>By doing the same thing by emulating their own software on other consoles and selling you the same game over and over again
>does not lead to more sales
>even if the game in question isn't sold by us anymore or we won't sell it to a US market for horseshit reasons.
>The problem is that's illegal
That is a description of the facts, but not a story or explanation can be conjured that doesn't make you look like a greedy shit company.
>Famous for bringing back to life it's popular characters
No. No you are not rofl. You shat on squaresoft and rpg's and said they were for depressed gamers and then revived Fire Emblem and Super mario RPG in a depressing period of time.
>The current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status
Which tells us what you care about more.
Nintendo is welcome to come to Australia and sue whoever they like for downloading "illegal" game ROMs, however thanks to Mathew McConoughey it will cost them at least 100k to do so and the most they can recover is the original cost of the game.
Nintendo sadly doesn't have to do shit. All these sites get intimidated just by mentioning their name and sudoku willingly.
>we're not commercially exploiting the product but you can't download it either :^)
makes me want to pirate out of spite.
Also, what a tragic mistake on the part of corporate morons
>make pirates iconic, instantly recognizable, cool, rugged, manly and timeless rogues romanticized through every possible fiction format and multiple documentaries
>Call people who bootleg software, as in make unlicensed copies for illicit sale and then everyone who downloads unlicensed copies "Pirates"
IP protection, sadly.
>nintendo is famous for bringing their characters back to life
>game runs at better framerate, resolution, and graphics on PC than an authentic Nintendo product
what did Nintendo mean by this?
>here at Nintendo we make up own own laws
>court of law: no you don't
No
>:)
Piracy is justified as a way to try out a game to make sure it actually runs on your system.
Dumbass devs stopped making demos and now you need to risk the 2 hour period and hope that there isn't some later section of the game that runs like garbage on your rig.
Piracy is a non-factor. Industry has this mistaken notion that I'll buy the game if I can't pirate it. No, I'll just ignore it and eventually forget it even exists if I don't get it for a year or so. Pirate copy is NOT a lost sale.
Or I might buy a game key when it's 5-10$ depending on how I feel. That 70$ quadruple A game really isn't worth 70$.
$5 keys are even worse than piracy. Unless the game was in a bundle not a single cent of that will have supported anyone but third-world grifters.
Which is great if I'm buying a game that's still got denuvo hanging off of it
You're never "buying" anything that's still got Denuvo, that's just account sharing.
Yeah, which is why I'm only okay with this if I'm getting it for pennies on the dollar. An indie game though? Not only might the game actually deserve those dollars, I actually want the devs to have my money in that case.
>No, I'll just ignore it and eventually forget it even exists if I don't get it for a year or so.
Truer words were never spoken. There are simply so many games coming out and I'm not ten anymore to get hyped about games.
Lots of israelites here defending corporations and blaming pirates. Ganker is truly dead.
This is why people pirate
>but you're not entitled to entertainment
go frick yourself
>[word/game title] is good/bad, actually
I wish I could filter essayslop from youtube
If you're poor, or you have to jump through unreasonable hoops (including paying ridiculous sums for a 30-year-old game), while getting a worse experience when doing it legitimately, then piracy is good.
If you have the means, and it's widely available at a reasonable price, without any strings or caveats, and you still pirate, then that's scummy.
Shrimple as.
I use piracy for shit I simply cannot get otherwise. Discworld Noir is my favorite P&C adventure, but short of tracking down a used physical copy there's no one for me to actually give money to in order to buy the game from. I'm perfectly willing to do that, but so many games are simply stuck in publishing limbos that I cannot.
It is not my job to convince people to pay megacorps, I'm sure it is yours. Is the paycheck fat? Equivalent to janny pay, at least?
Piracy is for when capitalism fails. It's there to prevent $20 subscription fees to five layers of launchers each with their own draconian DRM or activation systems just to access some ancient game.
I would a couple years ago.
But considering how shit games are now pirating is the only way.
...cassettes?
>zoomers don't even know about The Pirate Bay
grim
The Pirate Bay was sketchy and better, safer alternatives came out and got popular after it went down
wow I have never looked at above thumbnail size
Sorry, I'm gonna download and even (God forgive me) seed complete sets of Nintendo ROMs.
I'm just gonna do it.
UGH I know
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love pirating videogames, they simply don't deserve my money. Not what happened after No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk. Also don't forget all the microtransactions and whatnot. All those studios should close down because of this and at last the white man is free of the shekels of videogames and starts being great again.
How about releasing some playable demos so I don't have to pirate your game just to see if it isn't shit? No, I'm not going off your paid reviewers.
This basically, Tekken 8's demo made me go eww, its nothing like it used to be, so $70 dodged right there, literal DOA 6 tekken reskin flopslop not even having the blocking mechanics of DOA which let you parry high, mid, low strikes if you knew it was coming, one of the good stealable ideas from that trash series.
>wanting universal parries in Tekken
fighting asuka and leroy is aids and you want the entire cast to feel like that?
> Can't play against parries.
What a fricking casual no wonder you like Tekken 8 and couldn't play anything more demanding of attack reading skills.
Also if anyone finds asuka and leroy hard to fight, then it means they are brain damaged, ez gg, Eat Pauls sweeps/hooks for days.
>its nothing like it used to be
> not even having the blocking mechanics of DOA which let you parry high, mid, low strikes
you never played a tekken yu perma stuck teal rank shitter.
Piracy is only okay if you are israeli, and you're pirating games made by goyim. If you're a goy, it is your obligation to give money to the israeli people.
YOU ARE A...
SLIPPER WIELDIN’
BASKET FACED
if you pirate good games, the people who make good games won't be able to afford making more good games
the people who make good games don't gain anything from a sale, they're contractual workers
also every good dev company god bought up and turned to shit despite earnings going up every year for the last 2 decades.
How can you explain this?
small independent companies don't make money from selling games?
and even if that were true, the principle still holds: if a good game doesn't make a profit, the people who made it would not be hired back to make more.
the only meaningful market signal to make more of something good is to have it be profitable.
good companies getting bought up and turning to shit is the other side of the same rule - gamers being undiscerning spineless worms who buy based on brand name, not quality
Stealing is immoral how much more refuting do you need?
Go ahead and pirate, just stop trying to justify your crimes.
>Stealing
How do you steal something that cant be owned? Do you "steal" air too?
You don't have the right to someone else's service or intellectual property. It's that simple.
>someone else's service or intellectual property
except we're talking about commodities. Products. Things that can be bought, sold, traded and owned.
Videogames cant be owned. Ergo, they cant be stolen. Simple as.
Ideas which can be turned into a commodity and sold, is in fact property. So yes, pirating is theft. Your are stealing someone's idea without their permission.
copyright doesn't protect ideas, only their expressions in a concrete form. and no, ideas can't be stolen, since you can't be deprived of the idea. same goes for digital data, a song, a concept, etc.
A video game, it's software, it's licenses, are ideas turned into a concrete form, Into a tangible product with a market and consumers. There is a monetary benefit involved for the creators of an IP. You're making it like these printed videos games are just ideas floating in the aether.
Printed physical copies *are* property, and can be stolen, sure, but digital data isn't. Of course IP creators can and should make money off their creations, but that doesn't make software piracy stealing. You were the one that said that *ideas* were being stolen, I pointed out that not even a dumb concept like copyright claims to protect something like ideas.
Digital data is property. It's an idea from someones mind, that's then processed with computers, which are made of scarce resources and people. You are being so bad faith at this point by being pedantic on the word "idea". You bring up digital copyright only applies to concrete forms, then I proceed to show you how a video game product is an idea turned into a concrete creation, yet you still try to scoot around the fact. So yes Piracy is immoral and theft. You are not owed someone else's creation.
Computers are scarce. That doesn't make digital data scarce. Of course a video game is a concrete creation, and thus protected by copyright. My point is that I'm against copyright, because a "concrete creation" is not inherently scarce. I don't see what "owing" has to do with it, there's no debt where nothing was taken away.
How is digital data stored? On Servers and storage devices that are made of scarce resources. Are you arguing, an infinite amount of digital data can be produced? Time for a human is scarce, Humans are the ones that program the software for digital data to exist. By you illegally downloading a video game you are taking away their work put into the software. You feel owed to their free labor, you are arguing for slavery basically. So you want slavery and theft.
you are woefully uneducated as to how developers are paid for their work, moron anon.
>No u
Good job being a thieving homosexual and slavery advocate.
A good does not itself become scarce by being the result of the application of limited resources or being stored on scarce devices. No matter how many other people copy the result of your work, you still have it, therefore nothing is taken away. Each copy contains the full result of the work. Slavery is forced labor, embarrassing of you to even try to make a connection here.
Slavery is wanting someone's labor for free against their will. That's what you're engaging in at this point.
You try frame my argument by saying the logical conclusion is that we must compensate every single inventor of an idea, but then proceed to debunk yourself by admitting the laws on the book give an expiration on IPs.
Such a strawman. At this point you guys aren't even seriously trying to defend pirating. You want to morally justify theft.
>Slavery is wanting someone's labor for free against their will.
lmao, wanting is not a crime, only doing. I want Sydney Sweeney to rub her fat breasts in my face, but I do not become a slaver until I make her my property and force her to do so.
My logic is sound. To follow the logic of Intellectual Property to its conclusion is to expand the laws well past their expiration. Why let the laws expire in the first place when there are original ideas to be paid for? The distant relatives of the people who made the words we use could be collecting royalties! Obviously a cutoff does exist. Its existence is arbitrary and ultimately comes far too late to have any public benefit. Oh hey look, we all finally own B&W Mickey Mouse. Hooray? Its ridiculous to think a corporation should have exclusive rights to distribute a work after creatives leave the company, let alone 75 years after the author dies.
Your argument on the other hand is literally the straw man fallacy. Restructuring my argument into something easier to argue with in an attempt to brush off my stronger points.
Now you're just inventing shit by theorizing about IP expiration dates being changed, when the law has been clear cut for a century at this point. Fricking moron. Im realizing this thread is just low iq thieves lmao. You still can't even come up with a moral argument. You want people's ideas and labor for free, you are a selfish piece of shit.
Straw man. Ad hominem.
You want to sit on your ass all day play vidya for free without compensating the labor put into the product. Fricking worthless homosexual thief.
Slavery is depriving someone of their freedom. Piracy does not deprive anyone of anything they have.
You don't own the right to a configuration of on/off states in digital memory. Any claim you do is a construct of society. You can argue the virtue of having this kind of system to protect the ability for a creator to make a profit, but intellectual property as a social construct is archaic, outdated, and ultimately does not benefit the individual anywhere near as much as it does corporations and estates who abuse these "rights" ignoring the right to public domain and the general concept of the collective conscious. If you were to take intellectual property to its logical conclusion, you would be paying the families of the people who first invented the words you use on the daily, and royalties to the descendants of mathematicians, and really dishing out pennies for any thought you ever have that is at all inspired by your surroundings in society.
Copying data for someone else to use is also not theft in any way. Again, you can argue for the benefits restricting this right has for creators, but usually these benefits just go to a corporation. And what does the public get for it? Takedowns of games more than 20 years old because someone wants to milk another rerelease of a game that has been near flawlessly emulatable since the 90s.
At some point it has to be okay for the public to own a work. 75 years after the author's death is far too long and is for a society that didn't imagine the internet.
I fully agree.
50 years is already mode than enough for owning a work.
Divide that by five and throw in public rights to remove malware like denuvo and then we have an agreement.
But that is another problem isn't it? Any bid to reclaim public domain puts up an arbitrary set of rules against a broken system when the underlying problem is that copyright itself is busted and needs to be thrown out, rewritten and re imagined.
>Videogames cant be owned
just woke up and read the dumbest shit on Ganker
ACK
>intellectual property
no such thing. that which is not scarce is not property.
>data is sold as goods
>take data for free
>stealing goods
Also you can steal air too, canned air is actually sold as a souvenir. As stupid of a concept it is to sell a canned air, it's uncivilized to just take it from a store just because its a stupid concept.
If you don't agree with the product just don't buy it. It's simple as that
>data is sold as goods
>except it's not
>the data bought as goods can be taken away from the buyer at any time for no reason at all
>ergo he does not own the data he bought as goods
>therefore data cannot be bought or sold as goods since it cannot be owned
>meaning it cannot be stolen either
if you don't like how its sold just don't buy it, you can't have your cake and eat it too
stop coming up with excuses to justify stealing, you sound like a black person, if you want to steal its better to just embrace it
>b...but aktually tekhnically it not stealing
that's called an excuse moron
>if you don't like how its sold just don't buy it
Exactly. I dont. And that's what makes you so mad.
>REEEE STEALING STEALING STEALING
Spare me your seething and answer my question. How can you steal a commodity that cant be owned, bought, traded or sold?
I don't buy moronic shit either, but I don't find a way to play them because I'm not a manchild
>but I don't find a way to play them
didnt ask and dont care what you do with your money
>because I'm not a manchild
nah it's because you're too dumb to do it. zoomers are infamously bad with computers
calmdown
it's called copying
>if you don't like how its sold just don't buy it
Literally what pirates are saying
>that's called an excuse
No it's called a fact.
If purchase isn't ownership then piracy isn't theft and if you disagree you're probably the type of consoomer that preorders triple A goyslop, complains about the slop shipping unfinished, then preorders the next serving of slop
Riddle me this then, genius. How is a company able to revoke access to a game I bought, for no reason at all, without giving me a refund? And somehow this doesn't count as theft?
First, (You) didn't buy the game, you bought a license instead.
Second, they don't need a reason to. On most TOS it's stated that they can revoke their licenses whenever they want for whatever made up reason. And you agree to those terms so you can't complain.
If you don't own a physical copy, you are a cuck.
The point still stands. I gave them money for something, they took it back from me, and I didn't get my money back. How is this not theft?
>W-WELL THIS FLIMSY PIECE OF PAPER SAID
Theft is theft. No words can change that. You said it yourself.
If I give money and don't own it then I can also not give money and not own it, ezpz.
>Sir! SIR!!! You need to pay for that data sir!! Yes I know you can just take it bu-! SIR!!! SIR DO NOT LEAVE THAT DOOR SIR!!!
>How do you steal something that cant be owned?
This is the question that drives corporate shills up the wall. You can tell they're upset when they threaten you with the law.
Threadly reminder that there has never been a case of a person being jailed for pirating in the Anglosphere. At all.
justifying stealing is for black people
thankfully, piracy does not involve stealing
ok Black person
what gets stolen, israelite boy?
>it ain't stealin cracka we just takin reparation from tha white man
>pirate game
>so good i buy it
now i just pirate software or game from devs i don't like
I got factorio for free. They had a database leak and I just picked an account and logged in. Have been using it ever since
that's how I got into witcher. pirated the first game, turned out it was good despite the horrendous jank, so I bought it when ee came out.
Piracy is good because:
1. I like free shit
2. It fricks mega corporations
3. It cucks GABEN out of his money
4. I truly own my games, can freely move and copy them and theoretically burn my own physical copies.
5. You can preserve the games forever even if Steam goes down and the internet goes down.
I agree with all but 5. Steam stated they will remove all DRM if they go down. You can also use one of the 100 programs to remove it like my pic rel or do it yourself manually.
If it's so good then why does Skull and Bones suck?
Its a budget version of Black Flag except stripped out of everything that made the game fun.
How could the industry's first AAAA game suck? Do you see all those As? That means quality. Obviously it's the consumers and players who are wrong.
I pirate every videogame that i play and if i enjoyed it i will buy it
Pirategays are the druggays of gaming. Everyone pirates because people want to play games for free, not because they are the Robin Hood of modern times or because they want to kill corpo or because they care about "game preservation" or whatever cope you feel. They do it beccause they are fricking poor. And nobody actually fricking cares if you are poor or not or if you pirate or not or if you breathe or not - but going around like "refute this lol" or advocating it like it's even better than buying games just reeks of insecurity. Every time someone feels like they have to go out of their way to affirm that they are a pirate I assume they live in the boonies in Brazil or a Eastern Europe ghetto starving to death waiting for 2 days straight to download a 2GB troony repack of a freshly cracked game that came out in 2020 on a 10 year old PC that can barely run the game at 5FPS begging for just one more hour of escape in video games while their parents are killing each other in the background crying because they actually hate their life.
>writing these walls of text because a single line blew his corporate apologist butthole open
I mean, piracy is largely a good thing and I think it's more to reaffirm that Ganker's actual general stance on piracy is in support of it because it has been fashionable for a few years to be counter-culture to Ganker rather than counter-culture to the internet.
>caring about what Ganker thinks
Piracy is no party
Piracy is necessary for preservation, because corps will delist anything for any reason, but I wish people wouldn't do it for games that you can buy cheap.
However, am a complete hypocrite, and pirate movies and TV shows.
>steal 30% of dev money
30% is literally the industry standard, I get it you live in a a turd world country but you are still paying for the same 70 dollar goyslop on your chink store
I pirate if the piracy is the better option
valve is only 7.7 billion worth while they steal 30% of dev money. they are going down soon.
>paying an agreed amount
>stealing
2 more weeks!
agreed
t. somali
Monopolies are bad by definition. Copyright is a legal monopoly by definition. Therefor Copyright is bad by definition. If copyright is bad by definition, then the violation of copyright is good by definition. Piracy is therefor a moral imperative.
what site you guys use often to pirate/torrent games nowdays?
t. didnt pirate since 2015
I just don't play games anymore.
They aren't even worth pirating.
Piracy is mainstream again so I started purchasing games again to be contrarian
Heh
>*AHEM*
Attention all RIAA israelites and DRM trannies
I will never pay for a song
I will never pay for an album
I will never pay for a movie or television series
I will never pay purchase software
I will never pay subscribe to your streaming site
I will never pay for an "e-book"
and I will never, EVER, watch an advertisement
How do we stop them ?
Not only porn, They all pirate every single media out there. Be it SFW or NSFW
Ganker is the only board where saying that you pirate things is controversial, that's how you know this place is full of actual, genuine shills.
NO i wont refute that
threadly reminder that westoids are literal israeli golems
Piracy is always justified if the consumer is facing anti consumer practices like
>no means to purchase the product on current hardware
>access of a previously purchased product was taken away somehow
>the version currently available is inferior to a previous version in some form
If a developer/publisher is providing the best version of a product for a fair price price compatible with modern hardware pirating loses its justification.
Unfortunately modern times are fulled by the delusion of infinite growth so companies are always trying to find a new way to screw over customers to squeeze just a bit more from our wallets.
80% of this thread never buy videogames in the first place
Post your purchase proof (with REAL NAME) then ill discuss with you. Prove it to me that youre not a Black person.
can someone help me pirate deep space waifu?
thanks
I love legally supporting my video games by purchasing them, and how do companies repay me?
>um, akshually you don't own your game anyway, now accept the new EULA or say goodbye to your purchase
>NO MODDING YOU NAZI FASCIST THIEF! THAT'S OUR PROPERTY!
>HOW DARE YOU MODIFY IT TO PLAY ON A HANDHELD WE DIDN'T APPROVE OF! POLICE! ARREST THIS MAN!
I'll still pay for a game if I want to enjoy it, but that's the only obligation anyone has to a company. After that, the game is mine to chop up and rip apart and rebuild and copy and play to the heart's content. If they have a problem with that, then they can kindly explain how they're gonna go bankrupt by me playing some Super Metroid romhacks. At that point it stops being about "y-you're stealing money from the dev" since you already paid them, and now they need to fall back to another cope.
Pirate game not worth your money, buy the games you want to see more of.
Sadly, people don't pirate Fifa or CoD.
Such a simple concept with plenty of examples of mobas out there to copy play styles from and it still sucked.
Piracy won't be an option soon.
Hackers are dying off, anti piracy options are getting stronger and windows 11-12 will be able to soon detect piracted software and auto delete it.
You are not in control.
>Hackers are dying off, anti piracy options are getting stronger
Older games already pirated.
>windows 11-12 will be able to soon detect piracted software and auto delete it.
Linux
>You are not in control.
I will keep as much control as I cxan.
>Expecting people to play old games
Lol
>Linux
Shitty outdated software
>I will keep as much control as I cxan.
Your body will betray you. No such thing in this life you can control
I don't think I will
There has literally never been a single video gaming company that has went out of business on piracy alone.
If I have the files, and have access to the files without DRM or encryption or anything else that is designed to prevent me from accessing and using the files, then I own the game.
Pirates are literally the minority in the grand scheme of things
I did a basic google search of the most pirated video games and all I got was games released in the 7th generation 10+ years ago
serious question
do zoomers today even know how to pirate vidya?
You people are destroying the industry.
No they aren't, multi million dollar corporations have been saying ''the sky is falling'' for 2 decades now and the video gaming industry has grown in revenue 10fold since then
i wouldn't say it's necessarily good but it's definitely justifiable