You find Gabite on victory road
The way Platinum handled Gible was actually the best. It would have given a zero to hero mon to the people who were willing to explore. Unfortunately Gabite on victory road completely ruins it
bro nobody is dropping a team member at victory road for an NFE
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>dropping
Not everyone is an autist that plays with the first 6 pokemon they see.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can literally get a gible in that secret cave who will likely be a lv 50 garchomp once you reach the victory road.
Why the frick would I train a gabite for?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
innit
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>catch level 43 gabite >use a few rare candies >beat a couple trainers in the same area you catch it
That was really hard.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>using rare candies on some shitty NFE you find in the victory road instead of using it on your level 50 pokemon that will takes a longer time to reach the next level
Sheesh, I bet you are one those guy who find Cynthia hard to beat...
Also did you read the OP?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Sheesh, I bet you are one those guy who find Cynthia hard to beat.
No, which is why I don't need to use my rare candies on my highest level pokemon. Dumb brownskin.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>No, which is why I don't need to use my rare candies on my highest level pokemon
No need to do that when your team us evenly train
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>using rare candies on some shitty NFE you find in the victory road instead of using it on your level 50 pokemon
Then why bring it up? have a nice day you dumb ESL.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol sure moron.
Have fun training a zweilous you just found in the victory road :^)
3 weeks ago
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>zweilous
I didn't know that one was in Platinum.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>platinum onwards
Isn't that what you said? I thought the dumb ESL here was me??
3 weeks ago
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>you
If you can't tell anons apart don't try to act like this.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you can't tell anons
Yeah? that's the point of an anonymous imageboard, dumbass. Not my fault if there are two morons who share the same shitty take in the same thread.
3 weeks ago
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>yeah dude I'll just save my rare candies I'd totally save these for another mon instead of my main party
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You use your main party for much more of the game. Why would they need the candies?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good point
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes? Why wouldn’t you save your rare candy’s for the end of the game when it takes the longest to gain levels.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the wild level 43 gabite has no EVs while your party pokemon that's been with you has accumulated potentially 510 EVs making it on par if not stronger than a noninvested naked Garchomp. your point is moot
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you're so shit that you need fully EV'd pokemon than you're a moron with nothing relevant to say.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you get EVs by naturally playing the game are you a fricking moron or what? your starter gets an effort value every time it beats up a trainer or wild pokemon giving it inflated stats by the time you reach the Elite Four. you're actually braindead
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>your starter gets an effort value every time it beats up a trainer or wild pokemon giving it inflated stats by the time you reach the Elite Four.
Why do you need inflated stats to beat the game? Regular ones work for most people.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
tell me how level up your starter pokemon without having it ever gain an effort value moron. >do you fight in trainer battles and gym leader battles >if yes you gain EVs >do you fight wild pokemon >if yes you gain EVs
3 weeks ago
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You don't. Tell me why you need those inflated stats to beat the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
tell why you'd have a nice day in the foot training up a random gabite when your party pokemon that you've been training up all game would obviously be stronger? are you stupid?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's not shooting yourself in the foot if you aren't moronic. Now why do you need the inflated stats to beat the game?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
if you used your starter to beat a mandatory rival fight, you gained an effort value which inflated your stats. tell me how you level up your starter without inflating your stats with effort values.
3 weeks ago
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You don't. Tell me why you need those inflated stats to beat the game.
It's not shooting yourself in the foot if you aren't moronic. Now why do you need the inflated stats to beat the game?
Isn’t the whole reason you’re grinding so hard to get a garchomp in the first place is because it has an inflated BST compared to all your other mons? Why are you mocking others for “needing inflated stats”, when you can’t win the game without a 600 BST Dragon-type in a pre-Fairy meta?
3 weeks ago
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>Isn’t the whole reason you’re grinding so hard to get a garchomp in the first place is because it has an inflated BST
Holy shit you're soulless.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never said *I* would do that. I don’t actually like Garchomp all that much.
>4 rare candies and 3 mandatory fights is grinding so hard
But why? Why do you need an ugly 600 BST Pokemon when you can clear the game just fine with the mons you actually like?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have debilitating autism if you don't understand that people can like garchomp.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
But *I* don’t like Garchomp. So why am *I* being insulted for not using it just because I’d rather use mons I like, like Staraptor, Drapion, Lucario, Torterra, Azumarill, and Jolteon?
3 weeks ago
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>4 rare candies and 3 mandatory fights is grinding so hard
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>hmm gee why does my medicham I caught super on and trained up have higher stats than medichams found in the wild at a similar level that's weird lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you can only respond to greentexts that you're making up you can stick to your diary.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
a level 30 machoke that has killed 20 geodude previously has higher defenses than a level 30 machoke you find out in the wild. but I guess that's too hard for you to understand
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
if you used your starter to beat a mandatory rival fight, you gained an effort value which inflated your stats. tell me how you level up your starter without inflating your stats with effort values.
I've never said you don't get unavoidable EVs. I'm saying that if you need them to beat the game you're bad, because a basically 0 EV garchomp can still sweep most of the elite 4.
Now why do you need inflated stats to beat the game? It's just one question that you've been avoiding the whole time. I'm just going to assume you'll say something moronic and that you don't need them, in which case. >the wild level 43 gabite has no EVs while your party pokemon that's been with you has accumulated potentially 510 EVs
Is moronic, irrelevant, esl babble. You're welcome for making your argument. Sorry it was so easy to destroy.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Is moronic, irrelevant, esl babble.
confirmed moron that doesnt understand how the EV system works. a pokemon that has been with you all game does more damage and is bulkier from having killing pokemon over the course of a playthrough making it better than a naked new evolved garchomp found out in the wild. if a person has a team of 6 by victory road and replaces their torterra for a garchomp that's shooting themselves in the foot.
you are shooting yourself in the foot but you're too moronic to realize that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a pokemon that has been with you all game does more damage and is bulkier from having killing pokemon over the course of a playthrough making it better than a naked new evolved garchomp found out in the wild
Yes, no one has said otherwise. Why do you keep bringing this up? >if a person has a team of 6 by victory road and replaces their torterra for a garchomp that's shooting themselves in the foot.
It's only shooting yourself in the foot if you have more difficulty. It's not more difficult if you replace your torterra for a garchomp.
You're still a brownskin esl and always will be.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
and it's not more difficult if you just funnel all your exp and solo the rest of the game with giratina. why do you think people are shitting on your idea of dumping an entire team and soloing the game with a garchomp only found by the time you reach victory road? literal soulless tryhard have a nice day
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you can steamroll emerald by ditching your entire team and using a rayquaza caught in a master ball but people don't do that. what's your point?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you can steamroll emerald by ditching your entire team and using a rayquaza
Now it's not shooting yourself in the foot to drop EV trained team members? Smartest esl lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don’t bit about ESLs when you can’t comprehend basic arguments. The point is that Pokemon games are easy enough for you to use whatever Pokemon you want. You should never be in a situation where you’re forced to drop a mon you like for a pseudo just to beat the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't think anyone was claiming it was forced. Merely that catching a Gabite in Victory Road isn't any major handicap.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>using a rayquaza caught in a master ball but people don't do that >people don't do that
reading comprehension of a toddler and also ignoring that rayquaza is level 70
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
moron, most people didn’t know about the Gible cave
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No one is waiting until victory road to get their 6th team member.
>hydreigon is given out for free somehow despite the unova level curve not permitting you to evolve zweilous without being 5 or 10 levels over the final boss until postgame >just straight up lying about dragapult
Gives you something to be hyped about in the postgame. Besides, DP had the most postgame content of any base versions up to that point >GSC
Kanto is pretty skimpy, there's barely any trainer battles or areas to explore. I'll admit the boss rush of the kanto gym leaders is quite a solid amount to do though, but I still feel like Sinnoh has more to do postgame overall between all the repeatable content from the main game, 7 new routes, a handful of new dungeons, the battle tower, swarms + pokeradar + dongle method giving you TONS of new mons to explore, and so on.
it's supposed to give the game longevity in postgame and multiplayer. GF doesn't care about your campaign autism, the game doesn't end when you beat the champion, you're supposed to keep collecting Pokemon and battling your friends, and they left some rare ones for you to be excited about and work towards. it's just not compatible with this autism people have where they need to craft a perfect team (of ONLY current gen mons) during the story. GF didn't expect people to be like that
DP did it right with Gible imo. >Only found in an incredibly well hidden area that you need to backtrack to after the 6th badge >Found at a low level so you need to grind a bit to catch it up. >Super weak against ice types, who are common for the next several areas of the game. >Reaches it's final form right before the last gym, where it also has an excellent type advantage >Overall Solid pokemon for the rest of the game.
It's more reasonably handled than most games but also still has a lot of hurdles you need to overcome that make it sufficiently difficult to use.
>mild insults >actual arguments
No anon, we call those “ad hominems”, which are the exact opposite of “actual arguments”. An ESL like you wouldn’t understand a word that big, so I don’t blame you tho
some pokemon really feel like they were created with the intent of being used again in another game rather than being designed around being used in their home game
looking at you, johto
Shut the frick up
>metagross is good guys I used it in my Ruby playthr- AAAAACK!!
It is the only pseudo that’s not weak to fairy. That’s pretty good for Metagross 😀
it is and I did
It's available after the 4th badge in the better games.
2nd
Isn’t this only the case for Beldum and Deino (and I guess Jangmo-o)?
and Bagon and Larvitar (in GSC)
Oh right I’m so used to having a Bagon Egg at the start of Hoenn I forgot about Meteor Falls. Don’t know how I forgot Larvitar
>pseudo is another muh dwagon type
I don't mind it that much because I generally like the designs but yeah I wish they got more creative with pseudos
>pseudo is the ONLY dragon type
Based.
>create boss type
>give it to boss mons
>wtf!!!
>dragon is boss type
cringe headcanon
>Sylveon use moonblast
>psudeo legendary evolves at a higher level than the champion's team is at
Or the polar opposite of that that is equally shit
>regional pseudo legendary is given out for free in tall grass of a mandatory area
When did that happen?
Every single game platinum onwards
Didn't know gibble were given for free in platinum...
You find Gabite on victory road
The way Platinum handled Gible was actually the best. It would have given a zero to hero mon to the people who were willing to explore. Unfortunately Gabite on victory road completely ruins it
It's simply not worth it to train when you are at that point of the game.
Yet many people did
Yes and they grind like morons because their team was way too overleveled for the shitty Gabite. Not to mention it has a slow leveling rate.
bro nobody is dropping a team member at victory road for an NFE
>dropping
Not everyone is an autist that plays with the first 6 pokemon they see.
You can literally get a gible in that secret cave who will likely be a lv 50 garchomp once you reach the victory road.
Why the frick would I train a gabite for?
innit
>catch level 43 gabite
>use a few rare candies
>beat a couple trainers in the same area you catch it
That was really hard.
>using rare candies on some shitty NFE you find in the victory road instead of using it on your level 50 pokemon that will takes a longer time to reach the next level
Sheesh, I bet you are one those guy who find Cynthia hard to beat...
Also did you read the OP?
>Sheesh, I bet you are one those guy who find Cynthia hard to beat.
No, which is why I don't need to use my rare candies on my highest level pokemon. Dumb brownskin.
>No, which is why I don't need to use my rare candies on my highest level pokemon
No need to do that when your team us evenly train
>using rare candies on some shitty NFE you find in the victory road instead of using it on your level 50 pokemon
Then why bring it up? have a nice day you dumb ESL.
Lol sure moron.
Have fun training a zweilous you just found in the victory road :^)
>zweilous
I didn't know that one was in Platinum.
>platinum onwards
Isn't that what you said? I thought the dumb ESL here was me??
>you
If you can't tell anons apart don't try to act like this.
>If you can't tell anons
Yeah? that's the point of an anonymous imageboard, dumbass. Not my fault if there are two morons who share the same shitty take in the same thread.
>yeah dude I'll just save my rare candies I'd totally save these for another mon instead of my main party
You use your main party for much more of the game. Why would they need the candies?
Good point
Yes? Why wouldn’t you save your rare candy’s for the end of the game when it takes the longest to gain levels.
the wild level 43 gabite has no EVs while your party pokemon that's been with you has accumulated potentially 510 EVs making it on par if not stronger than a noninvested naked Garchomp. your point is moot
If you're so shit that you need fully EV'd pokemon than you're a moron with nothing relevant to say.
you get EVs by naturally playing the game are you a fricking moron or what? your starter gets an effort value every time it beats up a trainer or wild pokemon giving it inflated stats by the time you reach the Elite Four. you're actually braindead
>your starter gets an effort value every time it beats up a trainer or wild pokemon giving it inflated stats by the time you reach the Elite Four.
Why do you need inflated stats to beat the game? Regular ones work for most people.
tell me how level up your starter pokemon without having it ever gain an effort value moron.
>do you fight in trainer battles and gym leader battles
>if yes you gain EVs
>do you fight wild pokemon
>if yes you gain EVs
You don't. Tell me why you need those inflated stats to beat the game.
tell why you'd have a nice day in the foot training up a random gabite when your party pokemon that you've been training up all game would obviously be stronger? are you stupid?
It's not shooting yourself in the foot if you aren't moronic. Now why do you need the inflated stats to beat the game?
if you used your starter to beat a mandatory rival fight, you gained an effort value which inflated your stats. tell me how you level up your starter without inflating your stats with effort values.
Isn’t the whole reason you’re grinding so hard to get a garchomp in the first place is because it has an inflated BST compared to all your other mons? Why are you mocking others for “needing inflated stats”, when you can’t win the game without a 600 BST Dragon-type in a pre-Fairy meta?
>Isn’t the whole reason you’re grinding so hard to get a garchomp in the first place is because it has an inflated BST
Holy shit you're soulless.
I never said *I* would do that. I don’t actually like Garchomp all that much.
But why? Why do you need an ugly 600 BST Pokemon when you can clear the game just fine with the mons you actually like?
You have debilitating autism if you don't understand that people can like garchomp.
But *I* don’t like Garchomp. So why am *I* being insulted for not using it just because I’d rather use mons I like, like Staraptor, Drapion, Lucario, Torterra, Azumarill, and Jolteon?
>4 rare candies and 3 mandatory fights is grinding so hard
>hmm gee why does my medicham I caught super on and trained up have higher stats than medichams found in the wild at a similar level that's weird lol
If you can only respond to greentexts that you're making up you can stick to your diary.
a level 30 machoke that has killed 20 geodude previously has higher defenses than a level 30 machoke you find out in the wild. but I guess that's too hard for you to understand
I've never said you don't get unavoidable EVs. I'm saying that if you need them to beat the game you're bad, because a basically 0 EV garchomp can still sweep most of the elite 4.
Now why do you need inflated stats to beat the game? It's just one question that you've been avoiding the whole time. I'm just going to assume you'll say something moronic and that you don't need them, in which case.
>the wild level 43 gabite has no EVs while your party pokemon that's been with you has accumulated potentially 510 EVs
Is moronic, irrelevant, esl babble. You're welcome for making your argument. Sorry it was so easy to destroy.
>Is moronic, irrelevant, esl babble.
confirmed moron that doesnt understand how the EV system works. a pokemon that has been with you all game does more damage and is bulkier from having killing pokemon over the course of a playthrough making it better than a naked new evolved garchomp found out in the wild. if a person has a team of 6 by victory road and replaces their torterra for a garchomp that's shooting themselves in the foot.
you are shooting yourself in the foot but you're too moronic to realize that.
>a pokemon that has been with you all game does more damage and is bulkier from having killing pokemon over the course of a playthrough making it better than a naked new evolved garchomp found out in the wild
Yes, no one has said otherwise. Why do you keep bringing this up?
>if a person has a team of 6 by victory road and replaces their torterra for a garchomp that's shooting themselves in the foot.
It's only shooting yourself in the foot if you have more difficulty. It's not more difficult if you replace your torterra for a garchomp.
You're still a brownskin esl and always will be.
and it's not more difficult if you just funnel all your exp and solo the rest of the game with giratina. why do you think people are shitting on your idea of dumping an entire team and soloing the game with a garchomp only found by the time you reach victory road? literal soulless tryhard have a nice day
you can steamroll emerald by ditching your entire team and using a rayquaza caught in a master ball but people don't do that. what's your point?
>you can steamroll emerald by ditching your entire team and using a rayquaza
Now it's not shooting yourself in the foot to drop EV trained team members? Smartest esl lmao
Don’t bit about ESLs when you can’t comprehend basic arguments. The point is that Pokemon games are easy enough for you to use whatever Pokemon you want. You should never be in a situation where you’re forced to drop a mon you like for a pseudo just to beat the game.
I don't think anyone was claiming it was forced. Merely that catching a Gabite in Victory Road isn't any major handicap.
>using a rayquaza caught in a master ball but people don't do that
>people don't do that
reading comprehension of a toddler and also ignoring that rayquaza is level 70
moron, most people didn’t know about the Gible cave
No one is waiting until victory road to get their 6th team member.
>hydreigon is given out for free somehow despite the unova level curve not permitting you to evolve zweilous without being 5 or 10 levels over the final boss until postgame
>just straight up lying about dragapult
>introduces a plethora of new evolutions for older mons
>most of them are only available postgame
Because they were supposed to be rare and hype mons
I need my new mons now god dammit
Gives you something to be hyped about in the postgame. Besides, DP had the most postgame content of any base versions up to that point
>GSC
Kanto is pretty skimpy, there's barely any trainer battles or areas to explore. I'll admit the boss rush of the kanto gym leaders is quite a solid amount to do though, but I still feel like Sinnoh has more to do postgame overall between all the repeatable content from the main game, 7 new routes, a handful of new dungeons, the battle tower, swarms + pokeradar + dongle method giving you TONS of new mons to explore, and so on.
it's supposed to give the game longevity in postgame and multiplayer. GF doesn't care about your campaign autism, the game doesn't end when you beat the champion, you're supposed to keep collecting Pokemon and battling your friends, and they left some rare ones for you to be excited about and work towards. it's just not compatible with this autism people have where they need to craft a perfect team (of ONLY current gen mons) during the story. GF didn't expect people to be like that
>pablo btfo
>ignores all actual arguments to seethe at mild insults
Every time.
DP did it right with Gible imo.
>Only found in an incredibly well hidden area that you need to backtrack to after the 6th badge
>Found at a low level so you need to grind a bit to catch it up.
>Super weak against ice types, who are common for the next several areas of the game.
>Reaches it's final form right before the last gym, where it also has an excellent type advantage
>Overall Solid pokemon for the rest of the game.
It's more reasonably handled than most games but also still has a lot of hurdles you need to overcome that make it sufficiently difficult to use.
>mild insults
>actual arguments
No anon, we call those “ad hominems”, which are the exact opposite of “actual arguments”. An ESL like you wouldn’t understand a word that big, so I don’t blame you tho
>dude dragon lmao
Give me another ttar or gross
They are popular and unique
Yet they continue outputting the same slop every gen
some pokemon really feel like they were created with the intent of being used again in another game rather than being designed around being used in their home game
looking at you, johto