Source? Doesn't sound right to me..
I thought SFIV was insanely popular.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just look up numbers? Mortal Kombat sells more than Street Fighter
1 year ago
Anonymous
burden of proof is on you
1 year ago
Anonymous
nah sorry, not gonna save you a simple google search
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/1419669323984035842?s=19
both MKX and 11 passed 12mil units sold, total worldwide (after all editions) SF4 only hit ~10mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_IV#Sales
1 year ago
Anonymous
Huh, not that guy, but I thought people hated SFV. Wasn't there some kind of a backlash back then. About the lack of characters, lack of story mode and etc?
1 year ago
Anonymous
People did hate SFV, but current SFV and launch SFV are entirely different games. SFV isn't a bad game except for maybe Luke being way too good.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Do you not know how to use a search engine?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you're scared to learn the truth, anon
>Nobody plays fighting games
I showed there are franchises in the genre that mog Final Fantasy. You needed Asmongold to shill a f2p version so it would get players.
>It wasn't as if it was dead.
There were 2 hour queues for MSQ dunggeons during Stormblood. The game was on it's last legs before Asmong and other streamers saved it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yes anon, the game was on its last legs for 5 years +, lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
Your post doesn't even make sense.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>game was so packed it got throttled >had to split quests up with shadowbringers to prevent it happening again >last legs
lol okay moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
>game was so packed it got throttled
queue bug isn't being packed lmao
even with the flood of bots spamming 24/7 there wasn't enough to fill small ass servers without the bug
Asmong saved FFXIV
1 year ago
Anonymous
>went from being dead to being a bug
lol
lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
he's desperate kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm waiting for his next goalpost move
1 year ago
Anonymous
login queue bug exists and the game's MSQ queue was dead and no one was playing
it doesn't compete with either of those game.s this is a game for the sony first party game enjoying crowd crossed over with the action game enjoyer crowd. action game enjoyers will also pick up sf6 and play it earlier in the month, taking a small break to play xvi, then going back to sf6. there's nothing to be concerned about.
This has to be bait because no one talks like that. But I'm gonna bite. Diablo 4 and FFXVI are both action rpgs, so they are very much competing with each other
>Diablo 4 and FFXVI are both action rpgs
I think there are significant differences between these two action RPGs that you wouldn't say the target audiences are too similar.
>it doesn't compete with either of those game.s
Black person
the lowliest final fantasy will outsell all fighting games of that year combined
diablo iv will probably be mid, and everyone knows it today
I don't know about Diablo, but selling near SF6 is actually probably a GOOD thing for XVI.
XVI's problem isn't going to be other games, it's going to be PS5 exclusivity. Having other big ticket games like SF6 on the PS5 will help convince people it's worth purchasing, and increase the install base. Buying a new console with a big RPG and a Fighting game on the side is a bundle a lot of people would go for.
Why doesn't anyone ever mention Diablo games are isometric? Action RPG? Hack-and-Slash? Do people really think of this when they hear those categories?
I'd just say it's an Isometric Action RPG. Kind of like how there are Strategic RPGs or Action RPGs or open world RPGs or first-person RPGs. I just don't think I've heard anyone go "Yea, it's gonna be a tough choice between FF16 or Diablo IV next summer."
I don't disagree about the overlap between FF16 and Diablo. I also would agree that isometric RPGs tend to aim for a similar style of play due to the self-imposed constraints of the camera. I just wouldn't lump isometrics in together.
i just call diablo games diablo like. when i think of action rpgs i think of souls games, monster hunter, Witcher, etc. but not Diablo. And hack and slash is also something different for me
Normal people don't play fighting games and Square Enix still has an alright reputation. You're a cuck if you buy anything Bliazzard after their last few blunders
Even if a PS5 were free, I couldn't justify the purchase of both the system and game. As soon as a game moves to PC I prefer to play it on PC. Imagine 5 years from now you feel like replaying XVI. Would you rather play it on your PC you're already using or would you rather dust off your PS5?
Ups forgot I was posting in a WEF sponsored board where it's not allowed to mention the word sóy. Wouldn't want to offend any zoomBlack folk wouldn't we
You can actually pinpoint the exact reason why FF fans are fricking moronic with just this post. They honest to god think Final Fantasy having action combat is just as bad as putting something woke in a video game. If this doesn't shine a light on how fricking stupid this criticism is, I don't know what will.
Nobody will really care about any of these 3 games.
FF16 = Weird weebs.
SF6 = Weird smelly fighting game nerds who take games too seriously.
Diablo 4 = Weird basement dwellers who play shit like WOW.
Pic related are the games that normal mainstream audience will care about.
PC is not mainstream. Nobody cares about what sells well on PC. If you play shit like WOW or Diablo and other blizzard games you are a smelly basement dweller to normal people
30M is more than any FromShit game has ever sold. Yeah, including Elden Ring. If Diablo is for smelly basement dwellers, Armored Core is for people below that. Simple as
WOW was mainstream as frick back in the mid-2000s, literally on the same level as Minecraft and Fortnite. Your just moronic. If PC isn't then why then why does Steam have 69 daily active users.
Fornite partners with anything and Genshin only appeals to Communists and basement-dwellers. If you told anyone you watch anime you be laughed at. Watching anime now is the equivalent to reading Comics back in the 80s.
I would preorder XVI if it was coming out on PC, but I'm not buying a PS5 for one (1) game.
I'll wait until it comes to PC. And if it is EGS exclusive I'm pirating it, btw.
6 Months on PS5, I bet Sony can extend that but they won't. Epic seem to have stopped buying exclusivity as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if some bugman at squeenix made it one year on Epic for a tenner, in which case the right thing to do is pirate it.
XV came on steam ridiculously late as part of the windows edition/complete edition AFTER it was on EGS, so doubtful. it's a good game on sale but imo full price is a complete scam, just like flopspoken probably because 15 team can't make actual good games
They aren't tedious. They are boring. Its different. Movie games you can blast though in a day or 2 and move on even if its boring shit.. Loot shit you are doing same shit over and over and over for +5% to poison damage and whatnot.
The last few FFs certainly are that long. Not even gonna count XIV because that shit's eternal being an mmo
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3529
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3532
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/53305
1 year ago
Anonymous
16 is reportedly going to be 35 to 45 so not that long and why are you expecting a JRPG or any RPG to be like a 15 hour affair this is rather strange to complain about
1 year ago
Anonymous
>why are you expecting a JRPG or any RPG to be like a 15 hour affair this is rather strange to complain about
Anon... I replied to you saying FF games would take only a couple days to beat
Why do people like tedious cutscene movie/VN shit like final fantasy?
They aren't tedious. They are boring. Its different. Movie games you can blast though in a day or 2 and move on even if its boring shit.. Loot shit you are doing same shit over and over and over for +5% to poison damage and whatnot.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm 203. The 892 post isnt me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>48 hours to beat FF13's story
1 year ago
Anonymous
>include XV when it literally says sub 30 hours >XIII is literally just cutscene and walk and talk bloat with the early chapters being moronicly long for no good reason
XII is probably the only actual game that takes longer than average to beat
1 year ago
Anonymous
I included XV because of the Main+Extras time. Most people don't play an rpg and go just straight to the main story without ever stopping to do anything else, specially on a 1st playthrough. Its not completionist, but the average way to play is doing some side stuff along the way
If you had done your homework would've known that FFXVI will be next year's Elden Ring. The team behind it are beasts that released two 90s Metacritic games that are actually good. The fact people still call it weebshit when there isn't anything weeby about it is fricking cringe.
When FFXVI doesn't score 90 they will quickly backtrack and say that metascore never mattered despite spamming MC screencaps every time someone criticizes XIV.
When FFXVI is #4 in NPD they will say that the game didn't sell, because "the average normie didn't get it"
When FFXVI is forgotten a month after release they will say it's a cult classic with a handful of haters.
This just reminded me of the people that wanted to pretend FF Origins was good. That might be the most embarrassing display I've seen all year on Ganker
Oh NO, this SHIT game keeps getting MORE expansions!
Why couldn't FFXV get all it's expansions while this failed game keeps getting more content!?
1 year ago
Anonymous
STEAM FRICKING WHEN GOD DAMN
1 year ago
Anonymous
Imagine working your bollocks off on a game and it goes to Epic and nae c**t plays it. Must be galling
1 year ago
Anonymous
imagine working on a game that doesnt even need to sell at all because it was moneyhatted by sony and epic already and then your boss tells you to crunch and do overtime
1 year ago
Anonymous
The creators didn't jump ship halfway through the DLC releases.
the first was announced in 2021 with a pushback to 2022, and the second was announced in June this year with the pushback to 2023. They didn't actually commit to a release date until this most recent trailer, though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>pushback
Delays only happen when a release date is announced, and they can't meet it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the developers themselves said the game was delayed
1 year ago
Anonymous
they just said development was troubled because of COVID
it's not an official delay
1 year ago
Anonymous
his EXACT FRICKING WORDS: >However, I regret to inform you that I will be unable to keep that promise as complications stemming from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic have DELAYED the game’s development by almost a half year.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>DELAYED the game’s development
Not we're DELAYING THE RELEASE DATE.
1 year ago
Anonymous
moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
lthat just means development was hindered by covid you simpleton
1 year ago
Anonymous
No it means XVI was delayed >blaming it on covid >in December 2021
1 year ago
Anonymous
yes covid is still a thing moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
lmao didn't Hong Kong just go into lockdown
COVID hasn't magically stopped being a thing
1 year ago
Anonymous
whatever fits your desperate narrative
1 year ago
Anonymous
Holy frick you're stupid
1 year ago
Anonymous
and desperate to make it sound like a typical date delay
>click attack on the menu and do damage >buff for bosses >heal when low
Wow amazing strategy. FF7 was beaten by 7 year olds on the first try because it's braindead
Sure you did. Delays don't meant anything unless there was already an official release date.
Embarrassing things like FFXV having a big event in LA to announce the release date, only to delay it by 2 whole months a few days later.
They weren't. Everything about that game is a fricking mess. I'm glad Yoshi-P is producing FFXVI for that very reason.
>i just got here
Sure you did. Delays don't meant anything unless there was already an official release date.
Embarrassing things like FFXV having a big event in LA to announce the release date, only to delay it by 2 whole months a few days later.
>days
What?
FFXV uncovered was in march where they showed 3 new ffxv trailers, announced ffxv new demo, ffxv anime, ffxv movie, ffxv theme song, ffxv amano big bang art, ffxv collectors editions, showed new gameplay and summon footage and also announced the sep 30 release date which was already leaked
The delay to November 29 happened in august, MONTHS later not a few days you moron, and even despite only being a minor 2 month delay all the stuff they showed at the event still got excitement and hype
ff16 got a 6 month delay and another 6 month internal delay since it was supposed to be a 2022 release coming out before forspoken based on internal data, and it got delayed first to jan 2023 internally then delayed to June 2023 which is the public date they announced, it was still delayed more and has been in development 2x longer than Tabata's ffxv took
Mine is correct. When people talk about delays, it's mainly when a game's official release dates are pushed back. Nobody cares about development delays.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why even argue when they're just gonna disagree like a homosexual
1 year ago
Anonymous
because he's a moron
when someone says a game is delayed they mean the release date has changed not because development was held back - I'll die on this hill
1 year ago
Anonymous
I agree, but he's just looking for anything negative to latch on to.
downloading ff online first time ever to try, haven't played an mmo in a while, does this game have a good community?
i want to quest with people and shit you know
A new private server just launched a few days ago and there are a shitload of people on it. If you want the social FFXI experience now is the best time to get on it.
I don't really see how these fanbases compete really, they're all 3 very different kinds of games.
I'll most likely be playing Diablo IV first since despite all the bullshit with Blizzard, I've grown up with the series since the original, and my wife put SO many hours of couch co-op in D3 with me... But, I also wanna give FFXVI a try as well, I've just always been a more casual fan of the series and have only ever completed a few of them... I don't like fighter games as well, but SF6 doesn't have as much appeal to me. I'd be more likely to pick up Tekken 8 first.
>MTX ridden dungeon crawler that is being rushed out >Fighting game with models that are proportioned like RE 5 Chris started using Synthoil
I don't think these audiences are going to be intersecting much.
>Reply to post thats insulting the other games' fandoms >"hurr hurr now you yell about fandoms
Didnt now FFtrannies were disingenious and moronic as well
>the biggest schizo on this board is a FFXV gay >FFXIV has the most batshit crazy fans full of trannies >normal people
Diablo 4 is the only normal game there. Some of the fgc people are pretty cool too. FF fanbase has turned into one of the worst
Right now bigger issue is I'm not getting a PS5 just for FFXVI. Sure I'd pick up Ratchet and Clank gender bender, but aside from that everything else I'd want is either on PC or PS4.
Not too interested in DeS remake nor FF7R. GTAVI will probably come to PC same day. I mostly just don't want to try dodging FFXVI spoilers for probably a year.
SF6 is the only game people will give a shit about years after release, but it's a fighting game so 99% of the people will be filtered (including me).
Just waiting for dragons dogma 2, really
So this moron can't even defend his shitty game anymore and now desperately tried to use sales as an argument? What kind of a moron that uses sales figure as an argument? Not even 12 y/os do this shit. Is this indian moron works as Luminous studio's marketer/salesman or some shit? At the end what does it even matter, it all funnels back to fricking SE anyways. Either this morons genuinely thinks sales=quality, or he's genuinely a mentally stunted frickwad.
Im not Barry and OP is completely right, idk why yoshi p dicksuckers are pretending this game wont sell like shit
Its competing against a massive blizzard game which is the first singleplayer blizzard title since 3 (not counting immortal), Street Fighter 6 will definitely chunk its sales slightly and people are forgetting that ITS AGAINST FRICKING BOTW 2
And thats not even mentioning that its a PS5 exclusive when nobody has that while the rest are PC/PS5 and switch. If its releasing in the late summer, it wont do well as summer games usually sell much worse
This game is completely fricked. I didnt even mention the terrible marketing
the game will sell like shit but dor none of the reasons you are stating except for the PS5 userbase being laughably small. "competition" between 2 games doesn't exist for grown ass adults with employment, on top of the actual genre of game not overlapping whatsoever. saying SF6 is going to take a chunk out of XVI's sales sounds like the wet dream of someone who wants the game to fail anyway, not reality.
Well that isn't made clear in your post. Yes, yu mention the fact that it's an exclusive (which doesn't necessitate lower sales generally, see PS4 and Switch titles) but a good chunk of your post is spent trying to state that a PS5 exclusive JRPG is competing for sales with a >fighting game >switch exclusive """RPG""" that comes out months beforehand
and an isometric loot sim.
The crossover there is nonexistent and at best extremely small. Yes, the game will sell like shit because the PS5 is a dead platform. No, the game will not sell like shit because of its release date.
Also, it's not releasing in late summer. It's releasing like 2 days after the first day of summer.
They've become quite adept at reality denial after participating daily in cult-like activities. There is no buzz about FFXVI already and the game is about to be completely overshadowed by every major release in 2023, but that doesn't stop Yoshi-P drones from coming up with BS cope like "millions of silent consumers are waiting for FFXVI".
the game will not sale like crazy but it can do ok, game like ratchet and clank sold 1+ million in under a month when only 10 millions ps5 where out , ffxvi could pull like 3.5 to 4 million if the game get good reviews.
thats just wrong rpg are some of the most profitable solo game in the long run , just look at skyrim, the witcher 3 or even nier automata , hell even cyberpunk after the anime sold a lot of copie, 2 years after release.
[Sad news] PS5 "FF16" has not appeared on COMG! even after a few days have passed from the start of pre-orders
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1670973692
[Sad news] American FF16 reservations began on Amazon, but it started at 45th place and is on course to be a huge bomb
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1670936437
This game is going to be the worst selling mainline FF in decades
Someone please give a job to the Australian shitskin spastic so that he does something other than shitting up this board. I've never seen such relentless autism in my entire life. How many years has it been? 6? 7? Seriously Barry GET A LIFE.
I'm going to get all 3. Release date doesn't matter unless you are genuinly autistic.
You don't HAVE to buy/play a game the instant it release. You can wait for years before playing it. Some times that's even a good thing.
That being said. Those 3 games are completely different genres, in adition, D4 and SF6 are the kind of games you play sporadicly, while FF is the kind of game you play all at once. So even if you are an autistic homosexual, you can still play FFXVI as your "main" game and play D4 or SF6 in between sessions.
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound of my gun
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound
Jack's got a gun
Jack's got a gun
His whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at the sun
What did fricking barry do?
What did he put you through?
They said when Jack was arrested
They found him underneath a train
But man, he had it comin', now that Jack's got a gun
He ain't never gonna be the same
Because what they have shown about D4 seems promising.
Obviously everyone is cautiously optimistic as it is blizzard.
But there is a reason to think it might be good from what they have shown.
Millions of boomers trying to recapture D2, convincing themselves D3 was a fluke.
Millions of console players who liked D3 and will buy the sequel.
D4 will outsell FF and SF
Yeah, I dont know why people on this thread have it so hard to grasp that Diablo is a massively bigger and more popular series than FF its ever been, even back when it was at its peak
I feel like an arbitrary amount of hours isn't really telling a lot. It matters more if the pacing is good or falls apart at the end. I would rather have a 40 hour RPG with an ending that sticks than a 60 hour RPG where Act 3 meanders and overstays it's welcome.
X absolutely takes the average person more than 40 to complete the story. even XIII took me longer and it's just a straight path. but i'm not complaining. it's a great length for a game
The last few FFs certainly are that long. Not even gonna count XIV because that shit's eternal being an mmo
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3529
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3532
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/53305
Stop posting this chart made by a fricking ff14 shill desperate to elevate the status of ff16
ff6 had nothing to do with ff tactics and ff12 team worked on FF14 1.0 too
a bunch of ff7, ff10, ff8, kh1 and kh2 devs were on the core of ffxv team so why is it only offshooting from type0 which had a bunch of ps1 ff devs on it too? kh1 had a bunch of ff7 and ff8 devs at it's core too not just 8.
like seriously the art director for 7 and 8 who did backgrounds on 6 was art director on type0 and 15 too
the art director on 12 was a background artist on 10 and art director on 13 and environment art director on 15
one of the battle planner from ff7 and ff8 became battle director on ff10 and 10-2 and then type0 and then RPG system lead on 15, battle devs, level designers, artists, animators from kh1 and kh2 were also those on 15 too
even the in game cutscene director on 15 storyboarded the cutscenes on ff9 and the ff tactics scenes on ps1 where one of those shots is literally used as the boxart
ff14 1.0 literally has more ff12 devs on it than ff14 2.0
This chart was made by a frick named Dreamboum a resetera frick who is a massive yoshiP shill that shills ff14 non stop and constantly tries to talk up ff16 by falsely elevating those involved
https://twitter.com/Dreamboum/status/1418948846248398848?s=20
>have a nice day xivtroon
And miss out on your melty of all melties late January? Wouldn't miss it for the world.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It’s only gotta get more ridiculous. Any little thing he can try to use as a “one-up” or dismissal will be done in this next half year. If it sells more than FF15, he’ll still cite that 15 was “faster selling”. If it has good journo ratings, he’ll claim they were paid off and 15 wasn’t “artificial”.
He’s tried to claim that 15’s environments are more varied than 14 or 16, and someone hard countered him with 20 examples of different environments from La Noscea (2.0) in FF14 alone.
It’s been pretty entertaining to watch someone be utterly mindbroken by the sight of an actual competent dev team complete a finished game. Oh yeah, and he’s tried to claim how FF15 was “completed” in only 3 years, when it rebooted development. As if that’s an “own” to FF16, in which the only trouble was the pace of assets being created was slowed down last year.
>This chart was made by a frick named Dreamboum a resetera frick who is a massive yoshiP shill that shills ff14 non stop and constantly tries to talk up ff16 by falsely elevating those involved
Oh, the Suda51 guy did that pic? I've seen it a million times and I didn't know lmao
I was watching some analysis videos and something that was pointed out that it didn't occur to me before is that this battle with Garuda is happening in a floating piece of land. So after battling her mid-transformation form shown here we can assume she raises a platform into the sky before/after fully transforming, making it so Clive has no escape, which explains why he was desperate enough to lose control after being grabbed by her and transforming into Ifrit. I couldn't find a webm, but here's the scene: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VLl8sT57FTE&feature=shares&t=62
I’m looking forward to the environment transitions with each phase during these battles. Apparently the Eikons can influence the environment so that’s why the area is getting all stormy looking like the The Howling Eye from FF14. That’s just cool aesthetically.
I don't think the scene where she's grabbing him and the scene where ifrit is fighting garuda are the same scene. The platform is really small. Too small for ifrit and garuda to be fighting on.
Two possibilities. One, Clive transforming into Ifrit causes that change, maybe some of the floating pieces of land merged into the larger one thanks to his fire. Two, after he transforms he takes them back into the ground, but we still see the whirlwind around them so who knows for sure, it may be just Garuda's power creating a barrier to prevent his escape, not necessarily mean that they're still in the air.
thats a circle platform. its a boss fight room. it looks like clive fights garuda on that platform in human form, and then at the end of that phase he transforms into ifrit
the only genuine worry I have for the combat is it's gonna be all flash and no substance, DMC works because of movement and having multiple options on one input. Over here it seems not only are your options kind of limited unless there's more going on we're not seeing but knowing how square likes to be stupid we'll have one mashed out regular attack combo and a bunch of cool but slow and stationary anime attacks. Also stagger is a famously shit mechanic and I can't believe it's back
Its been announced for like, 3 years now. Not surprised you don't know tho, because no one is really caring about this one on mainstream gaming circles
Funny you say that when games like Diablo 2 will always be infinitely more of an RPG than FFXIV. Even garbage trash like Diablo which is barely an RPG has more choices than FFXIV
FFXIV has no RPG mechanics or choices. The only RPG mechanics are the materia you meld at endgame and that can be 300 hours later for a newcomer. Gear is also the most braindead in all of RPGs. At least like lets say in FF7, materia plays a huge role throughout the game or the sphere system in 10. Gear also had a bit more variety and you had a party to choose from. You also dont have a skill tree or different skills to choose from like in WoW
FFXIV is a shitty rhythm game and barely a proper RPG. FFXIV gays are so delusional to their shit game its hilarious
I'm not even than anon lmao. I just replied after seeing someone shouting "Gatekeeper!" as soon as its an FF game getting scrutinized on its genre, but not the dozen times before in the thread it got done to Diablo
It is an argument. The term "RPG" already lost its meaning 35 years ago when JRPGs took WRPGs' game systems but removed the character creation, roleplay and choice elements, replacing them with a linear narrative and predefined characters.
The influence of both branches of the genre on eachother and then the wider industry has diluted the term even further, so basically anything that has character levels and stats or an equipment screen can now be called an "RPG", and the "role-playing" is almost nowhere to be seen anyway.
So yeah, any discussion on what is or isn't or is more or less of an RPG is 35 years too late.
Its funny cause usually CSM haters will reply with redditsawman or something. But because they don’t know who this new character is, there hasn’t been an ad hominem yet.
I honestly have no idea what’s the end goal with the game. Trannies don’t want to support it because of JK Rowling. Chuds don’t want to support it because of the pozzed character creation and insertion of nigs/gays everywhere. Normies will probably like it cause of “muh Harry Potter”.
As an aside, it was funny seeing this game revealed, and the REACT streamers had to bring up JK Rowling BAD just to appease to the audience. Eggshell walking at its finest.
That game is the ultimate "wait for reviews, do not preorder" game for me. If people have fun with the actual running around the school doing wizardy stuff, then I'll buy, if it's just a shit original story with a bad adventure mode focus trying to be Uncharted with magic or something, then hard pass.
I really just want Bully in Hogwarts, but that's probably not what we're getting.
Another thing that occurred to me is that we only saw Dion in human form in two scenes in Sanbreque's throne room, one of which seems to be him going to talk to the emperor about something which leads to picrel, so it got me thinking that it may be because of Rosaria's invasion, which means that the Dion we've seen so far is how he looked like when Clive was still a teenager, before the first time skip. If this is true, I wonder how he'll look like after both time skips, because the "Come to me Ifrit" that people theorized shows Clive post-second time skip has him fighting Bahamut, which means Dion survives that long.
I hope Dion is actually nice and they become friends. Cause it’d be a good mirroring of each other, with both of them being princes.
But with 30s Clive apparently fighting Hugo to the death, I feel like something bad is gonna happen. 🙁
The same video that pointed out the Garuda thing also mentioned how in past FFs there were dragoon characters who went through a change of heart, so there's a chance that after he loses it in that scene in the throne room he turns his back on the empire because it's doing things he doesn't agree with.
>which means Dion survives that long.
Ah, but Eikons don't die with their Dominants. Clive could be fighting someone besides Dion who's gained the Bahamut Eikon.
Dominants don't sprout out of nowhere all of a sudden, but to be fair we don't know the specifics of how each Dominant is chosen. Someone could also have stolen Bahamut's power or something, maybe it's the final boss and he can transform in all the Eikons whose Dominants are already dead.
iirc the lore about dominants is they are just born or something like that. It's not clear if there is always a dominant or if there can be a period where there isn't one. Like before Joshua became the Phoenix dominant. Was there a Phoenix dominant that JUST died as he was born or was the last Phoenix dominant 100 years ago. And if the Dion we see is young Dion, then 13 years have passed when we see Clive fighting Bahamut. Time enough for Dion to tragically die between the beginning of the game and before the second time skip.
>It's not clear if there is always a dominant or if there can be a period where there isn't one.
This was actually clarified in the famitsu interview after the Ambition trailer: >Maehiro explains the process for a new Dominant emerging when the former Dominant has been petrified. He says that there are various conditions for the next Dominant to be born - it could be straight away, or it could be 100 years. However, the rule is there can only be 1 Dominant at a time for each element. He confirms that this means there were times in the world’s history when there were no Dominants, but the current era is one where a large number of Dominants have assembled. He also confirms there is no rule that each country can only have one Dominant.
This combined with them saying that the mural is ancient and just depicting all the Eikons that are known to have existed in Valisthea is why for now it's assumed that there's not Leviathan Dominant in the current time period despite him being in the mural, though one may be born during the course of the game, who knows.
1 year ago
Anonymous
They better not skip Leviathan. Especially with it being on the Amano boxart too. Back in the year it was announced they had this tweet that they deleted where they called Ifrit the “ninth” Eikon instead of the “dark” Eikon.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201031150145/https://www.twitter.com/finalfantasyxvi/status/1322554169555824641
So Levi would be the missing eighth. Apparently Ifrit is called Black Ifrit in JP lol. Reminds me of Xenoblade, with Black Face being the cause of the MC’s revenge quest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is why the NA website only has shit like screenshots and the trailer lol. Dumbass NA staff are incompetent.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why are americ**ts so useless
1 year ago
Anonymous
They are definitely keeping some things secret to avoid spoilers. Levi was on the tapestry in one trailer, and that one Barnabas scene looked like he had split an ocean behind him.
My pet theory is that Leviathan's dominant is going to be slain in front of us by Barnabas to show how big of a deal he is. Maybe that means Clive never gets access to Levi as an eikon swap, or it's late game that it comes back or something.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Or, better yet, you get it by doing some crazy convoluted shit you'd need a guide for
1 year ago
Anonymous
the voice of clive said that he watched people reaction to the trailer and theories and said we didnt see anything yet , so yeah they are definitively hiding A LOT.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the voice of clive said
Source? I'm genuinely interested.
1 year ago
Anonymous
not him but here it is
the dude is actually a fan of the franchise and a nice lad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lxod4keUSM
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I love narrative driven games that tell a story >Skyrim
1 year ago
Anonymous
at least he likes The Witness
1 year ago
Anonymous
>filtered by arr
oof
1 year ago
Anonymous
They really need to fix ARR beyond just trimming it. It feels so low quality compared to ShB/EW.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the interviewer is putting me to sleep god damn put some energy into it mate
not him but here it is
the dude is actually a fan of the franchise and a nice lad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lxod4keUSM
Well hot damn. I probably will do a media blackout for this game then. Faith for this is so god damned high. At least CBU3 doesn’t spoil everything in their trailers, even “launch” trailers for FF14 expansions. Though I still don’t watch them lol.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the voice of clive said that he watched people reaction to the trailer and theories and said we didnt see anything yet , so yeah they are definitively hiding A LOT.
Which is a good thing. Goddamn I'm tired of having everything in a game spoiled in trailers, leave some surprises for when we actually play it. If you need to show your whole hand in trailers to get people to buy your game then your game is shit.
>timed exclusive on playstation
No one in their right mind would purchase a singleplayer game for a console when it will inevitably release on PC. Thus, the launch sales for FF16 will be absolute trash, everyone will declare it as a flop and the investors will panic about how Final Fantasy/Square Enix is dying.
>No one in their right mind would purchase a singleplayer game for a console when it will inevitably release on PC
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/05/14/elden-ring-ps5-ps4-sold-most-copies-usa/
In Japan, PS4 sold more than PS5, but all we have are retail numbers. In Europe, PC sold more than PS5 which sold more than PS4. A lot of sales in Europe were digital.
I'd say it won't happen with FFXVI because of Yoshida, but Endwalker got delayed.
I think it was his first ever delay, and it made him feel like shit.
but muh covids
also I think they delayed it to ready up servers because of the asmongoloid flood and honestly I think it worked well because once I got in I never lost connection
I don't think an MMO expansion being pushed back 2 weeks for more time to tighten up server security and stability is comparable to pushing back full games by 2-3 months, but that's just me.
You jest, but he brought Squeenix out of the red like Sakaguchi did with FF. Sakaguchi also no-lifes the shit out of FFXIV with his Squaresoft team FC.
[...]
but muh covids
also I think they delayed it to ready up servers because of the asmongoloid flood and honestly I think it worked well because once I got in I never lost connection
Bah, EW's delay was 2 weeks long. That's hardly a delay. Too bad about those poor fricks who took vacation time for it, but a delay of 2 weeks? C'mon.
Also, the delay was to put in that part where Emet tells you about the other shit in the world so players wouldn't think EW was the end of FFXIV.
This part with some npc saying "onigero" while the Black person is approaching Joshua reminded me of that controversy about a japanese player of some multiplayer game being banned for saying nigero (run): https://youtu.be/VLl8sT57FTE?t=19
Just thought it was funny.
so while I'm looking at street fighter 6 bara r34 content I can also be watching yt videos about how bad nu diablo is compared to 2 and 1 and their mods like hell 2
in Snoy
they have ff16 bara and in 2 years when the pc version with all dlc releases I will buy it, install all 200gb of it, and never play it
Literally no one with taste, who isn't a complete poser is going to play SF6 and there's plenty of time to switch between a single player game and a multiplayer game with friends.
The Trails series is garbage though. I say this as someone who has beaten every game up through CS4. It's a series that once had a cool vision and idea, but then couldn't actually handle it's super bloated cast, and refuses to have any stakes or consequences for any of the characters, even villains. Nobody dies. Nobody is at fault. Nobody is punished for anything. If you're going to claim you're playing something better than FF, you shouldn't offer pure trash as the alternative.
How will you pirate a PS5 game? I can understand if it gets an EGS exclusivity though. That said, I doubt it's up to him, SE is moronic when it comes to PC.
SE is in the process of porting all most of their EGS exclusives to Steam and almost all of their releases during 2022 were Steam exclusives on PC. Their only EGS exclusives right now are SoP and the Kingdom Hearts games.
>SOP
that aside, it took neo:twewy roughly a year to get ported, and considering SoP hasn't finished yet and the KH collection is on permanent grab by epic, we might not see 16 until 2024 on steam. Square might think the PC market is dead because they seem to be intentionally knee-capping their sales.
I'm honestly shocked Forspoken wasn't an EGS exclusive.
That's true. Is Nomura just getting a direct paycheck from Epic Games or what?
It's a bit ridiculous that all of the good games square makes end up on epic exclusivity but the shit game by the 15 devs they're shilling now is the only one going to steam, despite 7r , SOP, 16, and the twewy sequel all being epic exclusive. Crisis core is also on steam, so I'm guessing Sweeny is just cherry picking games people actual care about to snipe like a c**t
It won many RPG and game of the year awards, was hugely financially successful and immensely popular with audiences. You being a shut-in on this website is not reality, sweetie 🙂
I think there might be overlap but SF6 is dead and diablo 4 isn't looking good at all, so not much competition to begin with. On the other hand >PS5 exclusive
okay, and?
Nobody plays fighting games so it'll do fine.
>Nobody plays fighting games so it'll do fine.
MK11 - 15 million sales
FFXV - 10 million sales
>mortal kombat = street fighter
moronic
I think the point is SF sells way more than MK.
SF hasn't outsold MK since SF2 anon
Source? Doesn't sound right to me..
I thought SFIV was insanely popular.
Just look up numbers? Mortal Kombat sells more than Street Fighter
burden of proof is on you
nah sorry, not gonna save you a simple google search
https://twitter.com/noobde/status/1419669323984035842?s=19
both MKX and 11 passed 12mil units sold, total worldwide (after all editions) SF4 only hit ~10mil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Fighter_IV#Sales
Huh, not that guy, but I thought people hated SFV. Wasn't there some kind of a backlash back then. About the lack of characters, lack of story mode and etc?
People did hate SFV, but current SFV and launch SFV are entirely different games. SFV isn't a bad game except for maybe Luke being way too good.
Do you not know how to use a search engine?
Sounds like you're scared to learn the truth, anon
>Nobody plays fighting games
I showed there are franchises in the genre that mog Final Fantasy. You needed Asmongold to shill a f2p version so it would get players.
FFXIV was doing fine before Asmomgone jumped in. He just happened to bring more people, and e-celebs, so numbers soared. It wasn't as if it was dead.
>It wasn't as if it was dead.
There were 2 hour queues for MSQ dunggeons during Stormblood. The game was on it's last legs before Asmong and other streamers saved it.
yes anon, the game was on its last legs for 5 years +, lmao
Your post doesn't even make sense.
>game was so packed it got throttled
>had to split quests up with shadowbringers to prevent it happening again
>last legs
lol okay moron
>game was so packed it got throttled
queue bug isn't being packed lmao
even with the flood of bots spamming 24/7 there wasn't enough to fill small ass servers without the bug
Asmong saved FFXIV
>went from being dead to being a bug
lol
lmao
he's desperate kek
I'm waiting for his next goalpost move
login queue bug exists and the game's MSQ queue was dead and no one was playing
sure thing sweety
>strawman
Okay try reading the thread next time for me
it doesn't compete with either of those game.s this is a game for the sony first party game enjoying crowd crossed over with the action game enjoyer crowd. action game enjoyers will also pick up sf6 and play it earlier in the month, taking a small break to play xvi, then going back to sf6. there's nothing to be concerned about.
This has to be bait because no one talks like that. But I'm gonna bite. Diablo 4 and FFXVI are both action rpgs, so they are very much competing with each other
>Diablo 4 and FFXVI are both action rpgs
I think there are significant differences between these two action RPGs that you wouldn't say the target audiences are too similar.
yeah bro click click click this is some crazy action! i just got a piece of randomly generated loot that sims .3% better my adrenaline is pumping
Is Diablo 4 even releasing on PS5
Diablo 4 is a multiplayer game with forced online and a battle pass
Final Fantasy XVI is single player
>both are action rpgs
holy cope
They are both action rpg's, micro brain.
Diablo isn't even an RPG at this point. It has more in common with Cookie Clicker.
>it doesn't compete with either of those game.s
Black person
the lowliest final fantasy will outsell all fighting games of that year combined
diablo iv will probably be mid, and everyone knows it today
I don't know about Diablo, but selling near SF6 is actually probably a GOOD thing for XVI.
XVI's problem isn't going to be other games, it's going to be PS5 exclusivity. Having other big ticket games like SF6 on the PS5 will help convince people it's worth purchasing, and increase the install base. Buying a new console with a big RPG and a Fighting game on the side is a bundle a lot of people would go for.
It doesn't seem like the three fandoms would overlap much.
ah yes the notorious overlap between jrpg fans and fighting games fans or hack and slash fans
ff is hack and slash now
hack and slash means a game like diablo,path of exile or titan quest, not a game like devil may cry
Why doesn't anyone ever mention Diablo games are isometric? Action RPG? Hack-and-Slash? Do people really think of this when they hear those categories?
Isometric isn't really a genre, is it? It's just a camera angle. What would you say Diablo's genre actually is?
It kind of is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isometric_video_game_graphics
https://www.fanatical.com/en/blog/best-isometric-games-steam-pc-gamers
https://www.thegamer.com/best-isometric-rpgs-games-ranked/
I'd just say it's an Isometric Action RPG. Kind of like how there are Strategic RPGs or Action RPGs or open world RPGs or first-person RPGs. I just don't think I've heard anyone go "Yea, it's gonna be a tough choice between FF16 or Diablo IV next summer."
I don't disagree about the overlap between FF16 and Diablo. I also would agree that isometric RPGs tend to aim for a similar style of play due to the self-imposed constraints of the camera. I just wouldn't lump isometrics in together.
third person obviously
i just call diablo games diablo like. when i think of action rpgs i think of souls games, monster hunter, Witcher, etc. but not Diablo. And hack and slash is also something different for me
Because no one on this board cares about western shit and Blizzard are a laughing stock.
I just call Diablo garbage.
arpg- diablo, poe
action rpg- dmc, bayonetta, sekiro
makes no sense but that's how it is
Bayo/sekiro/dmc are more raw action games than RPG. Actual action rpg are stuff like god of war, darksiders, kingdom hearts, zelda games
"Action" crpg is what I'd call diablo clones
3 very popular genres.
>fighting games
>popular
For a dead genre, there are a surprising number of fighting games being made these days.
and tourneys
Yes.
Normal people don't play fighting games and Square Enix still has an alright reputation. You're a cuck if you buy anything Bliazzard after their last few blunders
>and Square Enix still has an alright reputation
You haven't been around lately have you?
>Square Enix still has an alright reputation
Please tell me you brought me some cool t-shirts from 1997.
Nobody gives a frick about SF6
I wish I gave a frick about it, but I have PTSD from buying Street Fighter V on launch.
>releases again a month later but for real on pc and not on some shitty snoy console.
>PS5
It's gonna sell like shit
Why? They're much easier to get nowadays, and should be even more so next year.
Even if a PS5 were free, I couldn't justify the purchase of both the system and game. As soon as a game moves to PC I prefer to play it on PC. Imagine 5 years from now you feel like replaying XVI. Would you rather play it on your PC you're already using or would you rather dust off your PS5?
didn't ask
I was replying to
>Why?
I asked why it would "sell like shit", not why you're not buying it.
It's not like it would sell any more if it was on Xbox. Xbox is a dead end for jrpgs.
i will get this after sf6
blizzard can eat a dick
>Basedblo 4 made by nublizzard
>Zoom fighter 6, ethics department certified
>Final May Cry XVI, the action game.
Skipping these turds
>Final May Cry XVI, the action game
sounds fricking based to me
Of course you will, you're impressionable teens
project harder
dmc is a boomer franchise you absolute fricking moronic mongoloid
>Oh no the game is fun now and also requires skill! How terrible!!!!
We get it, you want a movie game with zero thought required like FF7.
dmc is unironically for boomers, all the zoomer newbies that 5 brought in already lost interest and moved on
Playing a game with a slower combat system does not make you an intellectual, anon.
Ups forgot I was posting in a WEF sponsored board where it's not allowed to mention the word sóy. Wouldn't want to offend any zoomBlack folk wouldn't we
>Final May Cry
I will now play your game
I like how you worded XVI to make it sound as bad as the other 2, and it only sounds better as a result
Buying a PS5 just for this game, cheers!
Out of those three, Final May Cry 16 definitely sounds like the best games.
May Cry XVI
Filtered
so name a good game or
Shut the frick up
You can actually pinpoint the exact reason why FF fans are fricking moronic with just this post. They honest to god think Final Fantasy having action combat is just as bad as putting something woke in a video game. If this doesn't shine a light on how fricking stupid this criticism is, I don't know what will.
No one cares about fighting games.
Nobody will really care about any of these 3 games.
FF16 = Weird weebs.
SF6 = Weird smelly fighting game nerds who take games too seriously.
Diablo 4 = Weird basement dwellers who play shit like WOW.
Pic related are the games that normal mainstream audience will care about.
Armored Snore will flop. You will never be mainstream.
It will because they will put "from elden ring company" in all the adverts
>normal mainstream audience
>Armored Core
>But not Diablo, which broke PC record sales with D3
You are a very special brand of moronic anon
PC is not mainstream. Nobody cares about what sells well on PC. If you play shit like WOW or Diablo and other blizzard games you are a smelly basement dweller to normal people
30M is more than any FromShit game has ever sold. Yeah, including Elden Ring. If Diablo is for smelly basement dwellers, Armored Core is for people below that. Simple as
WOW was mainstream as frick back in the mid-2000s, literally on the same level as Minecraft and Fortnite. Your just moronic. If PC isn't then why then why does Steam have 69 daily active users.
After XIV and XV, FF is mainstream now.
No only FF7 is mainstream. All other FF is weeb.
brother have you seen the latest fortnite shit and the popularity of things like genshin? weebs ARE mainstream now.
Fornite partners with anything and Genshin only appeals to Communists and basement-dwellers. If you told anyone you watch anime you be laughed at. Watching anime now is the equivalent to reading Comics back in the 80s.
I don't think weebs are mainstream. I think some anime have elevated themselves above weebness. That's about it.
>Pozzwarts
>Soi Wars
>REmake
>Dullda
>capeshit
>Bethesturd
>AssCreed
>Armored Bore
I would honestly much rather a new Front Mission than Armoed Core.
SF6 is literally built to draw in normies ply it’s fricking SF.
>Armored Core for the Normalgay audience
You almost had it right and had to ruin it at the end
>FF16 = Weird weebs
Sounds great, those audiences don't have a LOT of cross-pollination
I would preorder XVI if it was coming out on PC, but I'm not buying a PS5 for one (1) game.
I'll wait until it comes to PC. And if it is EGS exclusive I'm pirating it, btw.
Confirmed for PC
>EGS
Hmm, hopefully not....
XV is on steam so I'm hopefully.
6 Months on PS5, I bet Sony can extend that but they won't. Epic seem to have stopped buying exclusivity as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if some bugman at squeenix made it one year on Epic for a tenner, in which case the right thing to do is pirate it.
XV came on steam ridiculously late as part of the windows edition/complete edition AFTER it was on EGS, so doubtful. it's a good game on sale but imo full price is a complete scam, just like flopspoken probably because 15 team can't make actual good games
Arr you a shareholder? Otherwise why do you care
Ganker has been shit because of the sales discussion. Like you want to talk about x game you cant with all those MUH SALES MUH METASCORE
in reality this thread is just to discuss how busy june is
zelda also comes out a month prior
it's pretty obvious but then again Ganker is moronic
I'm just going to wait for the 2024 release. Enough time to see if it sucks or not.
why the frick do people like tedious loot shit like diablo and destiny and the division and borderlands?
Why do people like tedious cutscene movie/VN shit like final fantasy?
They aren't tedious. They are boring. Its different. Movie games you can blast though in a day or 2 and move on even if its boring shit.. Loot shit you are doing same shit over and over and over for +5% to poison damage and whatnot.
>Movie games you can blast though in a day or 2
Not when that movie game is 50 hour long like FF
>50 hours
Do people think FF games are that long?
The last few FFs certainly are that long. Not even gonna count XIV because that shit's eternal being an mmo
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3529
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/3532
https://howlongtobeat.com/game/53305
16 is reportedly going to be 35 to 45 so not that long and why are you expecting a JRPG or any RPG to be like a 15 hour affair this is rather strange to complain about
>why are you expecting a JRPG or any RPG to be like a 15 hour affair this is rather strange to complain about
Anon... I replied to you saying FF games would take only a couple days to beat
I'm 203. The 892 post isnt me.
>48 hours to beat FF13's story
>include XV when it literally says sub 30 hours
>XIII is literally just cutscene and walk and talk bloat with the early chapters being moronicly long for no good reason
XII is probably the only actual game that takes longer than average to beat
I included XV because of the Main+Extras time. Most people don't play an rpg and go just straight to the main story without ever stopping to do anything else, specially on a 1st playthrough. Its not completionist, but the average way to play is doing some side stuff along the way
I beat FF7 remake in about 25-30 hours
Isn't FF7R like 1/10th of the original game?
Poor Diablo and Street Fighter 🙁
Why are people pretending like anyone gives a shit about FF16???? People only care about FF7 related FF games like the remake.
XV wasn't even all that good and sold 10 million. All XVI has to do is be competent and it'll sell well.
>wojak
>????
kys
If you had done your homework would've known that FFXVI will be next year's Elden Ring. The team behind it are beasts that released two 90s Metacritic games that are actually good. The fact people still call it weebshit when there isn't anything weeby about it is fricking cringe.
Elden ring is try hard trash. FF is much better
cope
It’s garbage dude sorry. Not fun.
Neither has FF been fun for a long, long time now
>metacritic
lol based off of literal troony reviews and barely even 10 reviews at that
When FFXVI doesn't score 90 they will quickly backtrack and say that metascore never mattered despite spamming MC screencaps every time someone criticizes XIV.
When FFXVI is #4 in NPD they will say that the game didn't sell, because "the average normie didn't get it"
When FFXVI is forgotten a month after release they will say it's a cult classic with a handful of haters.
This just reminded me of the people that wanted to pretend FF Origins was good. That might be the most embarrassing display I've seen all year on Ganker
don't reply to yourself. People did like SoP.
You Fgays are so pathetic. You are so obssesed that constantly pretend every post you dont like is from the same person. Genuinely mentally ill bunch
struck a nerve, i see.
Oh NO, this SHIT game keeps getting MORE expansions!
Why couldn't FFXV get all it's expansions while this failed game keeps getting more content!?
STEAM FRICKING WHEN GOD DAMN
Imagine working your bollocks off on a game and it goes to Epic and nae c**t plays it. Must be galling
imagine working on a game that doesnt even need to sell at all because it was moneyhatted by sony and epic already and then your boss tells you to crunch and do overtime
The creators didn't jump ship halfway through the DLC releases.
I say start screencaping the xvitroon posts now so they can't pull history revisionist bullshit in 6 months
Nobody cares about Rebirth after how fricking shit Remake was.
Cry harder, chud
Holy frick! Diablo 3+1 and a street fighter game?!?!?!?!?! No one could compete with that!
kys
Either FF or Diablo are getting delayed
I've got a guess.
because FF games never have delays lol
XVI has been delayed a couple times
When?
never. he's full of shit. there has never been an official release date until last week.
the first was announced in 2021 with a pushback to 2022, and the second was announced in June this year with the pushback to 2023. They didn't actually commit to a release date until this most recent trailer, though.
>pushback
Delays only happen when a release date is announced, and they can't meet it.
the developers themselves said the game was delayed
they just said development was troubled because of COVID
it's not an official delay
his EXACT FRICKING WORDS:
>However, I regret to inform you that I will be unable to keep that promise as complications stemming from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic have DELAYED the game’s development by almost a half year.
>DELAYED the game’s development
Not we're DELAYING THE RELEASE DATE.
moron
lthat just means development was hindered by covid you simpleton
No it means XVI was delayed
>blaming it on covid
>in December 2021
yes covid is still a thing moron
lmao didn't Hong Kong just go into lockdown
COVID hasn't magically stopped being a thing
whatever fits your desperate narrative
Holy frick you're stupid
and desperate to make it sound like a typical date delay
moron
you're a moron
>old thread shitting on XVI dies
>makes a new one
I guess your Forespoken shill campaign is not working, Barry
This thread isn't shitting on it at all. Just pointing out it's coming out during a busy month. Take your fricking meds schizo moron.
Why is FF16 losing?
Barry it's past your bedtime
Zoomers don't seem to understand how big these 3 franchises are.
And FF16 is selling worse than Forspoken lol
>2K
>FIFA
>Madden
god I fricking hate Black folk and normalhomosexuals
unironically has more strategy than any JRPG
Is what mindless npcs who can't into Jrpgs think
>click attack on the menu and do damage
>buff for bosses
>heal when low
Wow amazing strategy. FF7 was beaten by 7 year olds on the first try because it's braindead
throw ball and run
damn sports games are next level
But i've no interest in either Diablo IV or Street Fight 6? I definitely do in FFXVI however.
>kept getting BTFO by jannies in the XIV thread
>wanders over here to keep the ball rolling
ignore and report the sperg
don't even acknowledge it
>desperate doomposters can't differentiate development delays and release date delays
i just got here but could u explain why the difference matters
>i just got here
Sure you did. Delays don't meant anything unless there was already an official release date.
Embarrassing things like FFXV having a big event in LA to announce the release date, only to delay it by 2 whole months a few days later.
>FFXV having a big event in LA to announce the release date, only to delay it by 2 whole months a few days later.
What were they thinking?
They weren't. Everything about that game is a fricking mess. I'm glad Yoshi-P is producing FFXVI for that very reason.
>days
What?
FFXV uncovered was in march where they showed 3 new ffxv trailers, announced ffxv new demo, ffxv anime, ffxv movie, ffxv theme song, ffxv amano big bang art, ffxv collectors editions, showed new gameplay and summon footage and also announced the sep 30 release date which was already leaked
The delay to November 29 happened in august, MONTHS later not a few days you moron, and even despite only being a minor 2 month delay all the stuff they showed at the event still got excitement and hype
ff16 got a 6 month delay and another 6 month internal delay since it was supposed to be a 2022 release coming out before forspoken based on internal data, and it got delayed first to jan 2023 internally then delayed to June 2023 which is the public date they announced, it was still delayed more and has been in development 2x longer than Tabata's ffxv took
nobody cares XV-kun
FFXVI hasn't been delayed because it only got one announced release date. Barry your coping
>Sure you did
oh, ur just a schizo. opinion in the trash
t. schizo
Semantics to fit my argument to win.
It's not semantics. When people talk about delays they usually mean release dates being pushed back, not developmental delays.
Unless directly specified, I would not agree.
whatever fits your narrative
Whatever fits yours.
Mine is correct. When people talk about delays, it's mainly when a game's official release dates are pushed back. Nobody cares about development delays.
why even argue when they're just gonna disagree like a homosexual
because he's a moron
when someone says a game is delayed they mean the release date has changed not because development was held back - I'll die on this hill
I agree, but he's just looking for anything negative to latch on to.
moron
moron
moron
No one buys fighting games and diablo 4 will be guaranteed shit.
downloading ff online first time ever to try, haven't played an mmo in a while, does this game have a good community?
i want to quest with people and shit you know
XIV is a mostly singleplayer experience
this, and its extremely linear while lvling
unless you meant ffxi, then thats the opposite and social af
XI is also dead as frick and can be played mostly singleplayer at this point anyway
was downloading xiv, ill try xi instead
XI is very single-player these days, too.
A new private server just launched a few days ago and there are a shitload of people on it. If you want the social FFXI experience now is the best time to get on it.
Sounds like a good month to save money and clear backlogs then.
Still buy it
First quarter is packed next year.
yeah it's pretty nuts
I don't really see how these fanbases compete really, they're all 3 very different kinds of games.
I'll most likely be playing Diablo IV first since despite all the bullshit with Blizzard, I've grown up with the series since the original, and my wife put SO many hours of couch co-op in D3 with me... But, I also wanna give FFXVI a try as well, I've just always been a more casual fan of the series and have only ever completed a few of them... I don't like fighter games as well, but SF6 doesn't have as much appeal to me. I'd be more likely to pick up Tekken 8 first.
>A fricking fighting game and the shambling corpse of blizzard putting out another mtx-riddled piece of dogshit
ok
who cares
>MTX ridden dungeon crawler that is being rushed out
>Fighting game with models that are proportioned like RE 5 Chris started using Synthoil
I don't think these audiences are going to be intersecting much.
all 3 will be dead on arrival
Hopefully.
>Diablo IV
Autists
>Street Fighter 6
Trannies
>FInal Fantasy XVI
Actual People
Fantasy XVI
>Actual People
Lol LMAO even. There are few fandom as autist as FF's and this entire thread is proof of that
>gets btfod
>resorts to yelling about muh autism muh fanbase
la mao
>Reply to post thats insulting the other games' fandoms
>"hurr hurr now you yell about fandoms
Didnt now FFtrannies were disingenious and moronic as well
you know I was talking about your other posts in this same thread, you dumb Black person
I havent made a reply in this thread since the first 50 posts you mongoloid
mhm yeah sure continue your shitpost and seethe rotation and don't bother replying
FFtrannies you all. Here you have the "normal ones"
>the biggest schizo on this board is a FFXV gay
>FFXIV has the most batshit crazy fans full of trannies
>normal people
Diablo 4 is the only normal game there. Some of the fgc people are pretty cool too. FF fanbase has turned into one of the worst
>Diablo 4 is the only normal game there
>>the biggest schizo on this board is a FFXV gay
Eh, I would say its a toss up between him and ACgay
>Releases the same month as soulless shovelware and a fighting game
Okay?
Street Fighter 6 is the first blatantly zoomer game I have encountered. Kys
why do people keep saying this
they're moronic zoomers themselves who have never played the Alpha entries
true
I'm a big FF fan, but a bigger SF fan. I'll get it when it comes to PC4
Right now bigger issue is I'm not getting a PS5 just for FFXVI. Sure I'd pick up Ratchet and Clank gender bender, but aside from that everything else I'd want is either on PC or PS4.
I was thinking of getting one for DeS remake, and 7R whenever it's out. Not to mention GTAVI which we'll most likely see a trailer for next year.
Not too interested in DeS remake nor FF7R. GTAVI will probably come to PC same day. I mostly just don't want to try dodging FFXVI spoilers for probably a year.
rent a PS5 then
No one actually cares about either of those.
nice to know you speak for everyone on the planet
Good thing I'll be playing XVI and neither of the other two.
homie those are not even the same genre and there are people who can afford more than one game
>Literally what and Drive Impact Fighter 6: Let's Give Guile and Dhalsim Armor-on-Command Edition!
FFXVI will be just fine
>Diablo 4
Is that suppose to be competition?
Is there any cute boy in the game to ship Clive with?
No one plays ARPGs, so it’ll do fine.
and that's the one I would buy. SF looks like shit and Diablo is a PtW bullshit
FF16 dead on arrival
>inb4 but ff16 is june 2023
So is diablo 4
Diablo 3 is one of the best selling games of all time, like top 20 or so. Why wouldn't Diablo 4 be ahead of FFXVI?
Western garbage and dead genre, FF will win easy
It's gonna be a disaster.
what is this even supposed to represent
preorders at a single store in japan.
autism
i mean , we know the PS5 is dead in japan , any ps5 game will flop in japan its not even a question
SF6 is the only game people will give a shit about years after release, but it's a fighting game so 99% of the people will be filtered (including me).
Just waiting for dragons dogma 2, really
>Shit XVI releases in the same month as Shit IV and Shit Black person 6
So this moron can't even defend his shitty game anymore and now desperately tried to use sales as an argument? What kind of a moron that uses sales figure as an argument? Not even 12 y/os do this shit. Is this indian moron works as Luminous studio's marketer/salesman or some shit? At the end what does it even matter, it all funnels back to fricking SE anyways. Either this morons genuinely thinks sales=quality, or he's genuinely a mentally stunted frickwad.
Im not Barry and OP is completely right, idk why yoshi p dicksuckers are pretending this game wont sell like shit
Its competing against a massive blizzard game which is the first singleplayer blizzard title since 3 (not counting immortal), Street Fighter 6 will definitely chunk its sales slightly and people are forgetting that ITS AGAINST FRICKING BOTW 2
And thats not even mentioning that its a PS5 exclusive when nobody has that while the rest are PC/PS5 and switch. If its releasing in the late summer, it wont do well as summer games usually sell much worse
This game is completely fricked. I didnt even mention the terrible marketing
I hope it sells poorly. Those are usually the best entries.
the game will sell like shit but dor none of the reasons you are stating except for the PS5 userbase being laughably small. "competition" between 2 games doesn't exist for grown ass adults with employment, on top of the actual genre of game not overlapping whatsoever. saying SF6 is going to take a chunk out of XVI's sales sounds like the wet dream of someone who wants the game to fail anyway, not reality.
>PS5 userbase being laughably small
That was my point. I mentioned it being a PS5 exclusive while the rest are on other platforms
Well that isn't made clear in your post. Yes, yu mention the fact that it's an exclusive (which doesn't necessitate lower sales generally, see PS4 and Switch titles) but a good chunk of your post is spent trying to state that a PS5 exclusive JRPG is competing for sales with a
>fighting game
>switch exclusive """RPG""" that comes out months beforehand
and an isometric loot sim.
The crossover there is nonexistent and at best extremely small. Yes, the game will sell like shit because the PS5 is a dead platform. No, the game will not sell like shit because of its release date.
Also, it's not releasing in late summer. It's releasing like 2 days after the first day of summer.
>dumb onepiss homosexual is dumb
pottery
I love how you can tell when someone is correct when some moron replies with an insult and no argument
nah I just don't entertain mentally stunted shounenshitters
why would I argue with someone so detached from adulthood and reality
Yes, PS5 userbase is small but that's the point of FF XVI, especially in Japan. It's a system seller.
They've become quite adept at reality denial after participating daily in cult-like activities. There is no buzz about FFXVI already and the game is about to be completely overshadowed by every major release in 2023, but that doesn't stop Yoshi-P drones from coming up with BS cope like "millions of silent consumers are waiting for FFXVI".
what the frick are you babbling about
the game will not sale like crazy but it can do ok, game like ratchet and clank sold 1+ million in under a month when only 10 millions ps5 where out , ffxvi could pull like 3.5 to 4 million if the game get good reviews.
The sales of RPGs like Final Fantasy are frontloaded, it won't have legs even if the reviews praise it.
thats just wrong rpg are some of the most profitable solo game in the long run , just look at skyrim, the witcher 3 or even nier automata , hell even cyberpunk after the anime sold a lot of copie, 2 years after release.
[Sad news] PS5 "FF16" has not appeared on COMG! even after a few days have passed from the start of pre-orders
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1670973692
[Sad news] American FF16 reservations began on Amazon, but it started at 45th place and is on course to be a huge bomb
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1670936437
This game is going to be the worst selling mainline FF in decades
Someone please give a job to the Australian shitskin spastic so that he does something other than shitting up this board. I've never seen such relentless autism in my entire life. How many years has it been? 6? 7? Seriously Barry GET A LIFE.
doesn't matter I'll be playing it Day 1.
no one cares about fighting games or blizzshit
I'd like to play this but almost 800 dollars for a single game is moronic.
I'm going to get all 3. Release date doesn't matter unless you are genuinly autistic.
You don't HAVE to buy/play a game the instant it release. You can wait for years before playing it. Some times that's even a good thing.
That being said. Those 3 games are completely different genres, in adition, D4 and SF6 are the kind of games you play sporadicly, while FF is the kind of game you play all at once. So even if you are an autistic homosexual, you can still play FFXVI as your "main" game and play D4 or SF6 in between sessions.
What's your point, OP? That it will be the month of shitty games?
It'll beat both easily. They should move date if they want to get decent sales.
Who the frick buys isometric always online games on consoles
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound of my gun
Dum, dum, dum, honey, what have you done?
Dum, dum, dum, it's the sound
Jack's got a gun
Jack's got a gun
His whole world's come undone
From lookin' straight at the sun
What did fricking barry do?
What did he put you through?
They said when Jack was arrested
They found him underneath a train
But man, he had it comin', now that Jack's got a gun
He ain't never gonna be the same
Wonder why the Emperor of all people is the boss for the last DLC.
Dissidia tie in? Personally hope all the dissidia villains appear in one way or another in the final dlc, would be a really nice suprise.
ARE YOU GARLAND
IM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DISSIDIA INITIATIVE
To make FF2 a literal sequel to FF1 because why not?
Isn't Tears of Kingdom in May too ?
>gotta play Zelda, SF6, FFXVI in a row.
2023 should be a good year.
Yoshi-Peen is practically begging for it to flop.
Why would you play Diablo 4 when Lost Ark exists?
Because Lost Ark is nothing like the Diablo games
Peepeepoopoo
Nobody cares about FF16. It's going to flop hard
test
Why the frick would anyone play Diablo IV? Has Blizzard not proved their incompetence enough lately?
Because what they have shown about D4 seems promising.
Obviously everyone is cautiously optimistic as it is blizzard.
But there is a reason to think it might be good from what they have shown.
Millions of boomers trying to recapture D2, convincing themselves D3 was a fluke.
Millions of console players who liked D3 and will buy the sequel.
D4 will outsell FF and SF
Yeah, I dont know why people on this thread have it so hard to grasp that Diablo is a massively bigger and more popular series than FF its ever been, even back when it was at its peak
>no trailer can even crack a million
Drop a gameplay video I can’t search at work
How can anyone compare this to Diablo? Diablo is fricking hot trash compared to FF franchise in all aspects and orders. Diablo gays are annoying
I'm personally getting XVI and Street Fighter
Diablo 3 sucked, 4 will suck too.
>garbage releases in the same month as garbage and garbage
Cool. I'm not a fighting game player and neither am I stupid enough to trust Blizzard. Your point?
only on console so not really. actual game is 6 months later
The game being sub 50 hours would kill what little interest I have left in it. I hope it's decently meaty.
According to Takai, 35-40 hours for main story, 70+ hours with all secondary content. Not including NG+ and Hard Mode.
Wow that's disheartening. I'm not expecting another DQ11 but I like my jarpigs lengthy 🙁
I feel like an arbitrary amount of hours isn't really telling a lot. It matters more if the pacing is good or falls apart at the end. I would rather have a 40 hour RPG with an ending that sticks than a 60 hour RPG where Act 3 meanders and overstays it's welcome.
there isn't a single FF longer than 40 hours unless you want to 100% X-2
X absolutely takes the average person more than 40 to complete the story. even XIII took me longer and it's just a straight path. but i'm not complaining. it's a great length for a game
False
12 took me 50 hours the first time
I feel like ff12 is genuinely that long because of how big the maps are and how slow the combat and characters are
>getting excited over a FF game in current year
Different pedigrees and dev teams.
Stop posting this chart made by a fricking ff14 shill desperate to elevate the status of ff16
ff6 had nothing to do with ff tactics and ff12 team worked on FF14 1.0 too
a bunch of ff7, ff10, ff8, kh1 and kh2 devs were on the core of ffxv team so why is it only offshooting from type0 which had a bunch of ps1 ff devs on it too? kh1 had a bunch of ff7 and ff8 devs at it's core too not just 8.
like seriously the art director for 7 and 8 who did backgrounds on 6 was art director on type0 and 15 too
the art director on 12 was a background artist on 10 and art director on 13 and environment art director on 15
one of the battle planner from ff7 and ff8 became battle director on ff10 and 10-2 and then type0 and then RPG system lead on 15, battle devs, level designers, artists, animators from kh1 and kh2 were also those on 15 too
even the in game cutscene director on 15 storyboarded the cutscenes on ff9 and the ff tactics scenes on ps1 where one of those shots is literally used as the boxart
ff14 1.0 literally has more ff12 devs on it than ff14 2.0
This chart was made by a frick named Dreamboum a resetera frick who is a massive yoshiP shill that shills ff14 non stop and constantly tries to talk up ff16 by falsely elevating those involved
https://twitter.com/Dreamboum/status/1418948846248398848?s=20
It seems tou trigger you something fierce so nah I'm gonna keep posting it.
have a nice day xivtroon
>have a nice day xivtroon
And miss out on your melty of all melties late January? Wouldn't miss it for the world.
It’s only gotta get more ridiculous. Any little thing he can try to use as a “one-up” or dismissal will be done in this next half year. If it sells more than FF15, he’ll still cite that 15 was “faster selling”. If it has good journo ratings, he’ll claim they were paid off and 15 wasn’t “artificial”.
He’s tried to claim that 15’s environments are more varied than 14 or 16, and someone hard countered him with 20 examples of different environments from La Noscea (2.0) in FF14 alone.
It’s been pretty entertaining to watch someone be utterly mindbroken by the sight of an actual competent dev team complete a finished game. Oh yeah, and he’s tried to claim how FF15 was “completed” in only 3 years, when it rebooted development. As if that’s an “own” to FF16, in which the only trouble was the pace of assets being created was slowed down last year.
>This chart was made by a frick named Dreamboum a resetera frick who is a massive yoshiP shill that shills ff14 non stop and constantly tries to talk up ff16 by falsely elevating those involved
Oh, the Suda51 guy did that pic? I've seen it a million times and I didn't know lmao
>ff6 had nothing to do with ff tactics
Good thing the chart isn't saying it did.
>different genres
>modern blizzard competing with anyone
if Final Fantasy XVI is good it will sell. Plenty of time to get a PS5 before June.
I was watching some analysis videos and something that was pointed out that it didn't occur to me before is that this battle with Garuda is happening in a floating piece of land. So after battling her mid-transformation form shown here we can assume she raises a platform into the sky before/after fully transforming, making it so Clive has no escape, which explains why he was desperate enough to lose control after being grabbed by her and transforming into Ifrit. I couldn't find a webm, but here's the scene: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VLl8sT57FTE&feature=shares&t=62
I’m looking forward to the environment transitions with each phase during these battles. Apparently the Eikons can influence the environment so that’s why the area is getting all stormy looking like the The Howling Eye from FF14. That’s just cool aesthetically.
I don't think the scene where she's grabbing him and the scene where ifrit is fighting garuda are the same scene. The platform is really small. Too small for ifrit and garuda to be fighting on.
It’s probably a clever trailer transition. Like the whole “cum to me ifrit” cut to a scene with Bahamut to make you think it was related.
Two possibilities. One, Clive transforming into Ifrit causes that change, maybe some of the floating pieces of land merged into the larger one thanks to his fire. Two, after he transforms he takes them back into the ground, but we still see the whirlwind around them so who knows for sure, it may be just Garuda's power creating a barrier to prevent his escape, not necessarily mean that they're still in the air.
thats a circle platform. its a boss fight room. it looks like clive fights garuda on that platform in human form, and then at the end of that phase he transforms into ifrit
every fight seems to take place in a separate arena kinda like FFXIV for whatever reason
the only genuine worry I have for the combat is it's gonna be all flash and no substance, DMC works because of movement and having multiple options on one input. Over here it seems not only are your options kind of limited unless there's more going on we're not seeing but knowing how square likes to be stupid we'll have one mashed out regular attack combo and a bunch of cool but slow and stationary anime attacks. Also stagger is a famously shit mechanic and I can't believe it's back
i would buy this over the others but since i don't have a PS5 i'll just get SF6
Diablo 4 is going to steal all the attention on that month so hard its not even going to be funny
wait there's a 16 now? when did that happen?
Its been announced for like, 3 years now. Not surprised you don't know tho, because no one is really caring about this one on mainstream gaming circles
it happened back in June of 2023
Are you on crack or something?
anon you may be moronic
I'm confused what your point is.
Final Fantasy is the one franchise that's more popular than both of those combined.
>SF6
Fighting game
>D4
Blizzard isometric FOMO repetition simulator
>FFXVI
Action JRPG
I see no issue with the release date
>"diablo 4 is an action rpg"
>there is no action
>there is no rpg
Funny you say that when games like Diablo 2 will always be infinitely more of an RPG than FFXIV. Even garbage trash like Diablo which is barely an RPG has more choices than FFXIV
FFXIV has no RPG mechanics or choices. The only RPG mechanics are the materia you meld at endgame and that can be 300 hours later for a newcomer. Gear is also the most braindead in all of RPGs. At least like lets say in FF7, materia plays a huge role throughout the game or the sphere system in 10. Gear also had a bit more variety and you had a party to choose from. You also dont have a skill tree or different skills to choose from like in WoW
FFXIV is a shitty rhythm game and barely a proper RPG. FFXIV gays are so delusional to their shit game its hilarious
Even garbage trash like Diablo 3*
Play Nioh 2.
>actually gatekeeping RPG definition
Where are you from, 1987?
This thread has been filled with people trying to say Diablo is not an Action RPG. Come on now with the double faced bullshit lmao
NTA, doesn't change the fact that you're wrong too.
I'm not even than anon lmao. I just replied after seeing someone shouting "Gatekeeper!" as soon as its an FF game getting scrutinized on its genre, but not the dozen times before in the thread it got done to Diablo
>No argument
Batman Arkham Knight has more RPG mechanics than FFXIV because there is none
It is an argument. The term "RPG" already lost its meaning 35 years ago when JRPGs took WRPGs' game systems but removed the character creation, roleplay and choice elements, replacing them with a linear narrative and predefined characters.
The influence of both branches of the genre on eachother and then the wider industry has diluted the term even further, so basically anything that has character levels and stats or an equipment screen can now be called an "RPG", and the "role-playing" is almost nowhere to be seen anyway.
So yeah, any discussion on what is or isn't or is more or less of an RPG is 35 years too late.
Anon he's not here to have a genuine argument or discussion he's here to shitpost.
They're both RPG sub-genres.
Stop being this fricking autistic.
Its funny cause usually CSM haters will reply with redditsawman or something. But because they don’t know who this new character is, there hasn’t been an ad hominem yet.
sir, this is a diablo 4 bashing thread
good
frick blizzard
All I care about is Hogwarts Legacy to dab on the trannies
Isn't that game just woke propaganda?
Literally everything is woke propaganda to your moronic ass
Not FFXVI.
:>
I honestly have no idea what’s the end goal with the game. Trannies don’t want to support it because of JK Rowling. Chuds don’t want to support it because of the pozzed character creation and insertion of nigs/gays everywhere. Normies will probably like it cause of “muh Harry Potter”.
As an aside, it was funny seeing this game revealed, and the REACT streamers had to bring up JK Rowling BAD just to appease to the audience. Eggshell walking at its finest.
That game is the ultimate "wait for reviews, do not preorder" game for me. If people have fun with the actual running around the school doing wizardy stuff, then I'll buy, if it's just a shit original story with a bad adventure mode focus trying to be Uncharted with magic or something, then hard pass.
I really just want Bully in Hogwarts, but that's probably not what we're getting.
>Diablo IV
Don't care
>Street Fighter 6
Don't care
>Final Fantasy XVI
Already preordered
I will be buying a PS5 for it, maybe 2 so my wife can play as well. I will not be playing Street Fighter or Diablo as I'm not interested in them.
I don't know, man, it seems like this is Square Enix trying to assert themselves and put Final Fantasy back on top as king of RPGs.
>king of RPGs
lol. FF was never king of anything.
Another thing that occurred to me is that we only saw Dion in human form in two scenes in Sanbreque's throne room, one of which seems to be him going to talk to the emperor about something which leads to picrel, so it got me thinking that it may be because of Rosaria's invasion, which means that the Dion we've seen so far is how he looked like when Clive was still a teenager, before the first time skip. If this is true, I wonder how he'll look like after both time skips, because the "Come to me Ifrit" that people theorized shows Clive post-second time skip has him fighting Bahamut, which means Dion survives that long.
I hope Dion is actually nice and they become friends. Cause it’d be a good mirroring of each other, with both of them being princes.
But with 30s Clive apparently fighting Hugo to the death, I feel like something bad is gonna happen. 🙁
The same video that pointed out the Garuda thing also mentioned how in past FFs there were dragoon characters who went through a change of heart, so there's a chance that after he loses it in that scene in the throne room he turns his back on the empire because it's doing things he doesn't agree with.
>which means Dion survives that long.
Ah, but Eikons don't die with their Dominants. Clive could be fighting someone besides Dion who's gained the Bahamut Eikon.
Dominants don't sprout out of nowhere all of a sudden, but to be fair we don't know the specifics of how each Dominant is chosen. Someone could also have stolen Bahamut's power or something, maybe it's the final boss and he can transform in all the Eikons whose Dominants are already dead.
iirc the lore about dominants is they are just born or something like that. It's not clear if there is always a dominant or if there can be a period where there isn't one. Like before Joshua became the Phoenix dominant. Was there a Phoenix dominant that JUST died as he was born or was the last Phoenix dominant 100 years ago. And if the Dion we see is young Dion, then 13 years have passed when we see Clive fighting Bahamut. Time enough for Dion to tragically die between the beginning of the game and before the second time skip.
>It's not clear if there is always a dominant or if there can be a period where there isn't one.
This was actually clarified in the famitsu interview after the Ambition trailer:
>Maehiro explains the process for a new Dominant emerging when the former Dominant has been petrified. He says that there are various conditions for the next Dominant to be born - it could be straight away, or it could be 100 years. However, the rule is there can only be 1 Dominant at a time for each element. He confirms that this means there were times in the world’s history when there were no Dominants, but the current era is one where a large number of Dominants have assembled. He also confirms there is no rule that each country can only have one Dominant.
This combined with them saying that the mural is ancient and just depicting all the Eikons that are known to have existed in Valisthea is why for now it's assumed that there's not Leviathan Dominant in the current time period despite him being in the mural, though one may be born during the course of the game, who knows.
They better not skip Leviathan. Especially with it being on the Amano boxart too. Back in the year it was announced they had this tweet that they deleted where they called Ifrit the “ninth” Eikon instead of the “dark” Eikon.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201031150145/https://www.twitter.com/finalfantasyxvi/status/1322554169555824641
So Levi would be the missing eighth. Apparently Ifrit is called Black Ifrit in JP lol. Reminds me of Xenoblade, with Black Face being the cause of the MC’s revenge quest.
This is why the NA website only has shit like screenshots and the trailer lol. Dumbass NA staff are incompetent.
why are americ**ts so useless
They are definitely keeping some things secret to avoid spoilers. Levi was on the tapestry in one trailer, and that one Barnabas scene looked like he had split an ocean behind him.
My pet theory is that Leviathan's dominant is going to be slain in front of us by Barnabas to show how big of a deal he is. Maybe that means Clive never gets access to Levi as an eikon swap, or it's late game that it comes back or something.
Or, better yet, you get it by doing some crazy convoluted shit you'd need a guide for
the voice of clive said that he watched people reaction to the trailer and theories and said we didnt see anything yet , so yeah they are definitively hiding A LOT.
>the voice of clive said
Source? I'm genuinely interested.
not him but here it is
the dude is actually a fan of the franchise and a nice lad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lxod4keUSM
>I love narrative driven games that tell a story
>Skyrim
at least he likes The Witness
>filtered by arr
oof
They really need to fix ARR beyond just trimming it. It feels so low quality compared to ShB/EW.
the interviewer is putting me to sleep god damn put some energy into it mate
I wish people would stop saying consume/consumed.
is ben on the loo
https://twitter.com/The_Ben_Starr/status/1603361104683466753
Well hot damn. I probably will do a media blackout for this game then. Faith for this is so god damned high. At least CBU3 doesn’t spoil everything in their trailers, even “launch” trailers for FF14 expansions. Though I still don’t watch them lol.
Which is a good thing. Goddamn I'm tired of having everything in a game spoiled in trailers, leave some surprises for when we actually play it. If you need to show your whole hand in trailers to get people to buy your game then your game is shit.
>the rule is there can only be 1 Dominant at a time for each element.
That's one rule broken. How many more will be broken before the end of the game?
Well, that's why that character in the first trailer says "a second Eikon of Fire? Impossible!", Ifrit is an anomaly that shouldn't exist.
>timed exclusive on playstation
No one in their right mind would purchase a singleplayer game for a console when it will inevitably release on PC. Thus, the launch sales for FF16 will be absolute trash, everyone will declare it as a flop and the investors will panic about how Final Fantasy/Square Enix is dying.
>No one in their right mind would purchase a singleplayer game for a console when it will inevitably release on PC
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/05/14/elden-ring-ps5-ps4-sold-most-copies-usa/
Funny that they put the PS5 and PS4 together, I want to know their individual sales, I doubt the majority was on the PS5.
In Japan, PS4 sold more than PS5, but all we have are retail numbers. In Europe, PC sold more than PS5 which sold more than PS4. A lot of sales in Europe were digital.
https://www.dualshockers.com/elden-rings-japan-launch-sits-at-almost-280000-sales-on-playstation/
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/elden-ring-is-the-biggest-new-ip-since-the-division-european-monthly-charts
https://gamerant.com/elden-ring-sales-numbers/
https://levvvel.com/elden-ring-statistics/
FF 16 and Diablo will get delayed, so I don't get your schizo worries
I can see Diablo IV getting delayed, but why would FFXVI get delayed?
probably has FFXV on the mind
Both XV and VII Remake got delayed. So far the trend with the last few FFs has been getting delays close to release
those were not produced by our lord and savior Yoshi-P though*
*Endwalker also was delayed
but muh covids
also I think they delayed it to ready up servers because of the asmongoloid flood and honestly I think it worked well because once I got in I never lost connection
>I think it worked well because once I got in I never lost connection
Agreed actually.
I don't think an MMO expansion being pushed back 2 weeks for more time to tighten up server security and stability is comparable to pushing back full games by 2-3 months, but that's just me.
>our lord and savior Yoshi-P
You jest, but he brought Squeenix out of the red like Sakaguchi did with FF. Sakaguchi also no-lifes the shit out of FFXIV with his Squaresoft team FC.
I'd say it won't happen with FFXVI because of Yoshida, but Endwalker got delayed.
I think it was his first ever delay, and it made him feel like shit.
Bah, EW's delay was 2 weeks long. That's hardly a delay. Too bad about those poor fricks who took vacation time for it, but a delay of 2 weeks? C'mon.
Also, the delay was to put in that part where Emet tells you about the other shit in the world so players wouldn't think EW was the end of FFXIV.
This part with some npc saying "onigero" while the Black person is approaching Joshua reminded me of that controversy about a japanese player of some multiplayer game being banned for saying nigero (run): https://youtu.be/VLl8sT57FTE?t=19
Just thought it was funny.
Yeah I'm thinking dead on arrival
D4 looks like shit
shocking
kino shot
That's 100% timetraveling evil Joshua.
Is this game using the FFXIV engine? Moogle looks identical..
Yea, it's an upgrade XIV engine. Possibly this:
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/09/square-enix-trademarks-radec-engine-in-japan
For me, it's Shiva
so while I'm looking at street fighter 6 bara r34 content I can also be watching yt videos about how bad nu diablo is compared to 2 and 1 and their mods like hell 2
in Snoy
they have ff16 bara and in 2 years when the pc version with all dlc releases I will buy it, install all 200gb of it, and never play it
wat
theres really good nude mods of sf5 where it makes people like zangief and ryu naked.
people upload vids of them fighting on the hub
Literally no one with taste, who isn't a complete poser is going to play SF6 and there's plenty of time to switch between a single player game and a multiplayer game with friends.
Cool, I’ll play all 3.
nah i'll stick to the Trails series. FF sucks now and has basically become Secret of Mana, a game i despised even as a kid. frick nerfed ARPGs
The Trails series is garbage though. I say this as someone who has beaten every game up through CS4. It's a series that once had a cool vision and idea, but then couldn't actually handle it's super bloated cast, and refuses to have any stakes or consequences for any of the characters, even villains. Nobody dies. Nobody is at fault. Nobody is punished for anything. If you're going to claim you're playing something better than FF, you shouldn't offer pure trash as the alternative.
Pretty sure it releases 6 months after that
>6 month delay on PC
>SE makes it a year long EGS exclusive
Not enough BIPOC so I am not buying.
16 has the most hype out of them all. The other's should be afraid.
>PS5 only
Oh nonononono
my venn diagram showing my estimation on the community overlap
you'd be surprised at how much more fightan/rpg overlap there is.
i know that there is an unusually large overlap in mmo raiding and fightan, but we're talking month of release
right
sorry yoshi-p but I'm pirating this
timed exclusivity is not something gI'm supporting
How will you pirate a PS5 game? I can understand if it gets an EGS exclusivity though. That said, I doubt it's up to him, SE is moronic when it comes to PC.
I think only Nomura's games have been getting the EGS treatment.
I'm honestly shocked Forspoken wasn't an EGS exclusive.
That's true. Is Nomura just getting a direct paycheck from Epic Games or what?
probably
SE is in the process of porting all most of their EGS exclusives to Steam and almost all of their releases during 2022 were Steam exclusives on PC. Their only EGS exclusives right now are SoP and the Kingdom Hearts games.
>SOP
that aside, it took neo:twewy roughly a year to get ported, and considering SoP hasn't finished yet and the KH collection is on permanent grab by epic, we might not see 16 until 2024 on steam. Square might think the PC market is dead because they seem to be intentionally knee-capping their sales.
It's a bit ridiculous that all of the good games square makes end up on epic exclusivity but the shit game by the 15 devs they're shilling now is the only one going to steam, despite 7r , SOP, 16, and the twewy sequel all being epic exclusive. Crisis core is also on steam, so I'm guessing Sweeny is just cherry picking games people actual care about to snipe like a c**t
Just go to SE's steam page. I don't think there's a single release in the past 6 months that wasn't on Steam.
Thoughts on chromicon? arty style is garbage but looks fun
ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEE
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I don't understand the question.
>Diablo IV
Anybody that buys that shit even over Final Goyslop is a moron.
>mfw playing FFXV
How is it goyslop when it's the only modern game to reject checklist "diversity"?
Barry is a Black person btw.
FFXVI may be the only modern game I've even considered buying. Their choice to include zero Black folk really speaks to me.
When the frick is FF7R part 2?
Next winter.
Why would anyone want more of that garbage?
Because not everyone is you.
True. The world would be too based.
KH fried their brains
It won many RPG and game of the year awards, was hugely financially successful and immensely popular with audiences. You being a shut-in on this website is not reality, sweetie 🙂
>it won arbitrary awards so that mea a it's good
lol it couldn't even win geoff"s arbitrary award
>schlock wins schlock awards
whoa
Neither shares an audience with 16 lol
I think there might be overlap but SF6 is dead and diablo 4 isn't looking good at all, so not much competition to begin with. On the other hand
>PS5 exclusive
Ben Starr = the VA behind Clive Rosfield
Susannah Fielding = the VA behind Jill Warrick
Is diablo releasing on ps5 as well?
Street Fighter does not matter, Diablo probably has some cross-over (older fans.)
Ps5 only release will already cause bad initial results, such is life.
Ralph Ineson = the VA behind Cidolfus Telamon
ff7 remake part 2 will mog ff 16 also. Purely since source material is much stronger than anything SE can come up with.