I think late 00s-early 2010s was the last time when people were not afraid to show/do fun stuff. Then the "cringe" culture appeared that used to clown stupid shit like this, and finally arrived the woke era that pretty much got offended with everything and pushed either sterilized or dishonest humor
Not him but you more or less nailed it. With the exceptions of autists who simply mentally lack the awareness, people are terrified of being seen as cringe now. Sure, people still say stupid shit without thinking these days, but people just have an instinctive need to not be seen as cringe that wasn't there before, and it causes them to not act like they would otherwise. It's kinda like how there was such a massive backlash to the unironic edgelord era of the 2000s and no one wants to make something like that ever again unless they're japanese and never went through that backlash.
If you want to know the biggest difference between the internet when we were teenagers, and the internet for teenagers now, is we were teenagers who grew up in a world WITHOUT internet. I don't know about you but I didn't have any form of internet until like '96, I was 10 by then. People who had a childhood that involved a lot less staying in the house, grew up with a different perspective than people where the internet has not only always been there, but is ubiquitous. It's a mindset you can't really go back to since even the third world has internet now. My generation was basically the last one where not having the internet as a kid was the norm.
>If you want to know the biggest difference between the internet when we were teenagers, and the internet for teenagers now, is we were teenagers who grew up in a world WITHOUT internet.
Spot on. The internet was also a less all-encompassing part of life even for people who had it. It was something separate from real life. The internet is serious business used to be a joke, but it's become reality sadly.
https://youtu.be/Cp-Ys_iFwnM?si=4HczlgH_FX5xuSN4
NO ITS NOT
ITS THE DARK SIDE
Like I don't think people would make something like this nowadays for fear of being called cringe. The animation is crappy (early flash to be fair), it's corny, etc. But it's also sincere and fun to watch, I still love it. The internet culture back then, especially in the late 90s and early 2000s, was teenagers and college kids experimenting and having fun with a new thing.
>The animation is crappy (early flash to be fair)
in fairness he also redid the animation a couple years later and it looked much nicer, though still early flash
Not him but you more or less nailed it. With the exceptions of autists who simply mentally lack the awareness, people are terrified of being seen as cringe now. Sure, people still say stupid shit without thinking these days, but people just have an instinctive need to not be seen as cringe that wasn't there before, and it causes them to not act like they would otherwise. It's kinda like how there was such a massive backlash to the unironic edgelord era of the 2000s and no one wants to make something like that ever again unless they're japanese and never went through that backlash.
If you want to know the biggest difference between the internet when we were teenagers, and the internet for teenagers now, is we were teenagers who grew up in a world WITHOUT internet. I don't know about you but I didn't have any form of internet until like '96, I was 10 by then. People who had a childhood that involved a lot less staying in the house, grew up with a different perspective than people where the internet has not only always been there, but is ubiquitous. It's a mindset you can't really go back to since even the third world has internet now. My generation was basically the last one where not having the internet as a kid was the norm.
What I really miss from the old days is people were less jaded overall. Bantering happened as always, but users weren't psychotic. I'll try to exemplify:
>Usual dialogue from before
- I like this game.
- I don't.
- Why don't you like it? >Usual dialogue now
- I like this game.
- I don't.
- lol zoom zoom go back to plebbit who hurt you not welcome here not like real gamers do did i changed your pronouns cry on discord kys
What is really all that insanity? That constant projection, buzzwords and boogeymen? It's really tiresome. As further information, I noticed this gets worse on weekends. I don't know what to get from this. Jaded people get a break from the routine they hate and spend their free time venting online at strangers they don't know anything about?
>What is really all that insanity? That constant projection, buzzwords and boogeymen? It's really tiresome
I think what truly changed and we now have that kinds of responses, is two things >gatekeeping
Back then the fandoms were pretty much gatekept, aka a "small and closed" society, so people wanted other people to join their hobbies and therefore they werent so aggressive towards those who were skeptical.
Nowadays, we have seen what happens to poorly gatekept hobbies. They get invaded, and the invaders change things from the inside for the worst. People now see someone that doesnt share their opinion about a product/hobby as potentially malicious and they lash out >Internet experience
Yes, thats right. Winning/losing arguments online, eventually grants you the desire to min/max every conversation with buzzwords in order to get the desirable result, fast.
No time to take every conversation seriously, when you are participating in 10+ threads in the same time. Just hit them with a schizo reply to get the seethe response
Yeah. People were always dicks online, but it feels different now. Like there's more genuine hatred from people on average. This extends offline too, people are way more aggressive about politics and less willing to stay friends with people who disagree on things.
Was it really considered cringe back then? I remember people saying this was the only good part of this whole kinect Star Wars game (and it was a just dance rip off, so that wasn't saying much).
>Star Wars was still taken dead serious by fanboys. It was "insulting" to them due to how stupid it was.
As someone who, before Disney was a SW superfan to the point that I read the garbage KJA EU books, it was more that we were used to stupid shit in Star Wars that you were intended to take seriously regardless. INTENTIONALLY stupid shit? That was a whole new ballpark.
>Was it really considered cringe back then?
This game was fricking hated online. SW Kinect came out when OT Boomers really started hitting their stride in online presence. Like this game and the plinket review of TMP came out within the same month.
I remember some Star War purists were hating on them but me, I enjoyed Star Wars Kinect's unintentional humor then, I enjoy it now. I think that was the case for the most of people. I wish I had a kinect to play it for lolz
>unintentional
No they were definitely winking at the audience, they knew how absurd it is when it's literally a holovideo about how the Rebels defeated the Empire by completely serving them in a dance-off.
I guess that's part of why it rubbed me wrong, SW was not the type of property to wink at the audience. Even when it was funny, it didn't call attention to the fact that it was funny.
Lucas also had basically nothing to with it beyond signing off on its creation, and has said that if he had the time and a sledgehammer, he would personally smash every copy of it in existence.
Also, have you SEEN the Holiday Special? I have, several times. I even have a copy of it with the Rifftrax attached on my hard drive. It's really fricking bad but at the same time, a lot of what can be interpreted as winking (it's really fricking hard to tell sometimes with 70s humor, self-aware humor basically wasn't a thing back then if you weren't Andy Kaufman or Mel Brooks) I think was improved by the actors. Like the Harvey Korman skit where he's a malfunctioning robot giving a tutorial on building a machine, I can't tell what parts are intentionally supposed to be funny or not.
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>improved
improvised, I meant
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>Also, have you SEEN the Holiday Special?
Yeah I have, the whole thing is on youtube.
I thought that whole wookie family sit com depiction felt like wink to its audience because it was definitely made with 70s parody in mind.
I think that christmas special wasnt THAT bad. It felt like a weird acid trip with some cringy moments here and there.
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The problem is I don't know how much was intentional because it was made by people who usually made variety shows (a cursed genre that I'm glad died before I was even born), which is why they got Steven Binder to direct it and randomly had shit like a Jefferson Starship set. And it says a lot when your band is the shittier reimagining of Jefferson Airplane and not you know, Jefferson Airplane (yes I know they broke up in '72, but Starship was such a fricking downgrade)
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Nta but it should be noted that the special we were given was not the one George and Lucasfilm had originally come up with >It did start out to be a lot better [with a different script]. We had half a dozen meetings with the TV company that was making it. In the end, because of work on promoting Star Wars and working on the next film, we realized we had no time. So we just left it to them and just had the occasional meetings with them, provided them with access to props and the actors, and that was it.
The only thing that was originally his idea that survived to the finished product was the narrative focus being on Chewie's family.
The Christmas special is really interesting in retrospect - by no means GOOD, god no, but it's fascinating to see the "franchise" in a state where it wasn't really a franchise yet. Everything's unsure, a little experimental, married to the time it was produced.
Pre-Disney Star Wars is so fricking soulful. Disney buying Star Wars was the official nail in the coffin for my childhood. I remember staying up all night making Star Wars games for Roblox with my cousin while listening to the Phantom Menace parody of American Pie by Weird Al. Good times.
While I'd be down for the meme that'd basically tank the movie before it even came out.
Granted it's not like it was good or did well in the first place.
I get legitimately angry when I remember that Abrams hijacked everything and gave us literal fan-fiction because he's one of "those" star wars fans who think that any deviation of what he thought star wars was when he was 10 is raping his childhood.
We got that all the time back in the day. The difference is when EU writers did it, they fell under the old Lucas rule of "it's canon until something in a movie contradicts it because the movies override everything else in canon". And JJ made movies which meant you can't override his bullshit.
Sure but if there was something REALLY FRICKING STUPID like say The Beldorian (it's my favorite go-to on stupid shit the EU pulled), you could always just...ignore it.
My point though is that if you cared about Jacen and hated Darth Caedus there was no way around it. If you thought the Vong were stupid you could skip NJO but the stories going forward were still stuck with those developments. There's a lot of minor stuff you can ignore and you can also ignore the entirety of post-ROTJ EU if you want to, but the same is true now.
>If you thought the Vong were stupid
I still stand by the belief that the Vong were NOT stupid, they were a neat idea executed really really REALLY badly.
Honestly that was kind of the beauty of the Old Republic stuff. We finally had the ability to go back to an era not tied down by like 15 years of EU writing and people could actually write new shit without worrying about how it affected anything written before,
my sister took me to a star wars burlesque show, and it was surprisingly decent and fun in production value until they had the emperor pop out and jacking his prosthetic dick outfit off. it was called the empire strips back, for reference
I remember that brief period where Napoleon Dynamite was huge and everyone at school was quoting it. The movie always reminds me of junior year of high school because of that.
my dad had gotten me a Vote For Pedro shirt as a gag gift, it was one of his guilty pleasure movies when I was in middle school. good times, anon, good times.
Ah yes, that period of high school. That being said, Jamiroquai is still fantastic and Canned Heat getting the attention it did from the film was great for him.
>remember that disney is involved in star wars now
I don't blame you for forgetting. Unlike back in the old days when Lucas would just toss out the SW license to anyone willing to pay the licensing fee, Disney is insanely guarded with it so we barely get any SW-related stuff compared to what we used to.
No. I don't. That game was brutally shat on for good reason. The only reason to own one was because of the R2D2 360 console. This game was shipped with it.
>this version of the song is better than the real one
There's a "real one"?
Isn't this song the one used to bait streamers into clicking the homosexual Black buck raping his own ass?
what
yep
A lot of gay porn and morons on zoom do not enter
I repeat do not enter
Satanic video
>this was considered cringe back then
>now this would be considered amazing
They really were ahead of their time, huh?
Same thing happened with the Spiderma 3 evil Peter montage.
I think late 00s-early 2010s was the last time when people were not afraid to show/do fun stuff. Then the "cringe" culture appeared that used to clown stupid shit like this, and finally arrived the woke era that pretty much got offended with everything and pushed either sterilized or dishonest humor
Not him but you more or less nailed it. With the exceptions of autists who simply mentally lack the awareness, people are terrified of being seen as cringe now. Sure, people still say stupid shit without thinking these days, but people just have an instinctive need to not be seen as cringe that wasn't there before, and it causes them to not act like they would otherwise. It's kinda like how there was such a massive backlash to the unironic edgelord era of the 2000s and no one wants to make something like that ever again unless they're japanese and never went through that backlash.
If you want to know the biggest difference between the internet when we were teenagers, and the internet for teenagers now, is we were teenagers who grew up in a world WITHOUT internet. I don't know about you but I didn't have any form of internet until like '96, I was 10 by then. People who had a childhood that involved a lot less staying in the house, grew up with a different perspective than people where the internet has not only always been there, but is ubiquitous. It's a mindset you can't really go back to since even the third world has internet now. My generation was basically the last one where not having the internet as a kid was the norm.
>If you want to know the biggest difference between the internet when we were teenagers, and the internet for teenagers now, is we were teenagers who grew up in a world WITHOUT internet.
Spot on. The internet was also a less all-encompassing part of life even for people who had it. It was something separate from real life. The internet is serious business used to be a joke, but it's become reality sadly.
Like I don't think people would make something like this nowadays for fear of being called cringe. The animation is crappy (early flash to be fair), it's corny, etc. But it's also sincere and fun to watch, I still love it. The internet culture back then, especially in the late 90s and early 2000s, was teenagers and college kids experimenting and having fun with a new thing.
I miss flash.
>The animation is crappy (early flash to be fair)
in fairness he also redid the animation a couple years later and it looked much nicer, though still early flash
What I really miss from the old days is people were less jaded overall. Bantering happened as always, but users weren't psychotic. I'll try to exemplify:
>Usual dialogue from before
- I like this game.
- I don't.
- Why don't you like it?
>Usual dialogue now
- I like this game.
- I don't.
- lol zoom zoom go back to plebbit who hurt you not welcome here not like real gamers do did i changed your pronouns cry on discord kys
What is really all that insanity? That constant projection, buzzwords and boogeymen? It's really tiresome. As further information, I noticed this gets worse on weekends. I don't know what to get from this. Jaded people get a break from the routine they hate and spend their free time venting online at strangers they don't know anything about?
>What is really all that insanity? That constant projection, buzzwords and boogeymen? It's really tiresome
I think what truly changed and we now have that kinds of responses, is two things
>gatekeeping
Back then the fandoms were pretty much gatekept, aka a "small and closed" society, so people wanted other people to join their hobbies and therefore they werent so aggressive towards those who were skeptical.
Nowadays, we have seen what happens to poorly gatekept hobbies. They get invaded, and the invaders change things from the inside for the worst. People now see someone that doesnt share their opinion about a product/hobby as potentially malicious and they lash out
>Internet experience
Yes, thats right. Winning/losing arguments online, eventually grants you the desire to min/max every conversation with buzzwords in order to get the desirable result, fast.
No time to take every conversation seriously, when you are participating in 10+ threads in the same time. Just hit them with a schizo reply to get the seethe response
Yeah. People were always dicks online, but it feels different now. Like there's more genuine hatred from people on average. This extends offline too, people are way more aggressive about politics and less willing to stay friends with people who disagree on things.
Was it really considered cringe back then? I remember people saying this was the only good part of this whole kinect Star Wars game (and it was a just dance rip off, so that wasn't saying much).
Star Wars was still taken dead serious by fanboys. It was "insulting" to them due to how stupid it was.
That feels like thirty years ago. Star Wars is now a complete joke. I'd rather sit through the holiday special than The Last Jedi.
If it wasn't for Mandalorian Baby Yoda merchandise Disney probably wouldn't even break even from the 4 billion they gave to Lucas.
And now we have Darth Vader twerking next to Mickey Mouse.
How the mighty have fallen.
>Star Wars was still taken dead serious by fanboys. It was "insulting" to them due to how stupid it was.
As someone who, before Disney was a SW superfan to the point that I read the garbage KJA EU books, it was more that we were used to stupid shit in Star Wars that you were intended to take seriously regardless. INTENTIONALLY stupid shit? That was a whole new ballpark.
>Was it really considered cringe back then?
This game was fricking hated online. SW Kinect came out when OT Boomers really started hitting their stride in online presence. Like this game and the plinket review of TMP came out within the same month.
I remember some Star War purists were hating on them but me, I enjoyed Star Wars Kinect's unintentional humor then, I enjoy it now. I think that was the case for the most of people. I wish I had a kinect to play it for lolz
>unintentional
No they were definitely winking at the audience, they knew how absurd it is when it's literally a holovideo about how the Rebels defeated the Empire by completely serving them in a dance-off.
I guess that's part of why it rubbed me wrong, SW was not the type of property to wink at the audience. Even when it was funny, it didn't call attention to the fact that it was funny.
>SW was not the type of property to wink at the audience
I guess that infamous christmas special broke that rule
Lucas also had basically nothing to with it beyond signing off on its creation, and has said that if he had the time and a sledgehammer, he would personally smash every copy of it in existence.
Also, have you SEEN the Holiday Special? I have, several times. I even have a copy of it with the Rifftrax attached on my hard drive. It's really fricking bad but at the same time, a lot of what can be interpreted as winking (it's really fricking hard to tell sometimes with 70s humor, self-aware humor basically wasn't a thing back then if you weren't Andy Kaufman or Mel Brooks) I think was improved by the actors. Like the Harvey Korman skit where he's a malfunctioning robot giving a tutorial on building a machine, I can't tell what parts are intentionally supposed to be funny or not.
>improved
improvised, I meant
>Also, have you SEEN the Holiday Special?
Yeah I have, the whole thing is on youtube.
I thought that whole wookie family sit com depiction felt like wink to its audience because it was definitely made with 70s parody in mind.
I think that christmas special wasnt THAT bad. It felt like a weird acid trip with some cringy moments here and there.
The problem is I don't know how much was intentional because it was made by people who usually made variety shows (a cursed genre that I'm glad died before I was even born), which is why they got Steven Binder to direct it and randomly had shit like a Jefferson Starship set. And it says a lot when your band is the shittier reimagining of Jefferson Airplane and not you know, Jefferson Airplane (yes I know they broke up in '72, but Starship was such a fricking downgrade)
Nta but it should be noted that the special we were given was not the one George and Lucasfilm had originally come up with
>It did start out to be a lot better [with a different script]. We had half a dozen meetings with the TV company that was making it. In the end, because of work on promoting Star Wars and working on the next film, we realized we had no time. So we just left it to them and just had the occasional meetings with them, provided them with access to props and the actors, and that was it.
The only thing that was originally his idea that survived to the finished product was the narrative focus being on Chewie's family.
The Christmas special is really interesting in retrospect - by no means GOOD, god no, but it's fascinating to see the "franchise" in a state where it wasn't really a franchise yet. Everything's unsure, a little experimental, married to the time it was produced.
>Was it really considered cringe back then?
Yes. Star Wars and Lucasfilm in general weren't in a great place in the late 00s/early 10s.
Remember when Star Wars was made for nerds?
they could have just repeated this video for 90 minutes and that would be a better experience than watching the episode 7, 8, or 9
The fact they didn't put this song anywhere in the trailer is a huge misstep.
people used to be passionate about star wars and care about the quality. now, nobody cares.
thanks a lot Disney
OH
MY
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWDDDDDDD
*Sigh*
Must I post everything myself?
I'm gonna do TK-421 next time I'm out clubbing, that shit looks kino
>the guy in the kinect camera killing it
Deadmau5 should make an OST for a video game, he already made an OST for a movie, now it's time for a game.
?si=odttfcMDAzQEsYQl
IT'S NOT THE EAST OR THE WEST SIDE
?si=4HczlgH_FX5xuSN4
NO ITS NOT
ITS THE DARK SIDE
Came here for this post. Thanks anon. Have another old Star Wars video.
Memory Unlocked holy shit
Despite how goofy this is, it's better than any star wars content created under disney.
these are the dance moves zoomers should've learned.
I too watch Dr. Jonathon Tronley
meanwhile modern star wars fans are told they are too white and male to watch star wars by star wars execs lmao
Funny to think Kinect Star Wars wasn't the low point in the franchise. We didn't know how good we had it back then.
Pre-Disney Star Wars is so fricking soulful. Disney buying Star Wars was the official nail in the coffin for my childhood. I remember staying up all night making Star Wars games for Roblox with my cousin while listening to the Phantom Menace parody of American Pie by Weird Al. Good times.
TAKE ME BACK BROS PLEASE
>iPhone filename
:^)
Frick off im cozy in bed
>cozy in bed
*moronic in the brain
fricking auto-correct, sorry
>Disney didn't play this during the Solo movie trailer or even during the credits
They can't do anything right
The biggest missed opportunity for them.
While I'd be down for the meme that'd basically tank the movie before it even came out.
Granted it's not like it was good or did well in the first place.
Why don't we have any more kinect dance games?
I get legitimately angry when I remember that Abrams hijacked everything and gave us literal fan-fiction because he's one of "those" star wars fans who think that any deviation of what he thought star wars was when he was 10 is raping his childhood.
We got that all the time back in the day. The difference is when EU writers did it, they fell under the old Lucas rule of "it's canon until something in a movie contradicts it because the movies override everything else in canon". And JJ made movies which meant you can't override his bullshit.
If you cared about the EU there wasn't much of a difference, though. Most of the major series led directly from one to the next.
Sure but if there was something REALLY FRICKING STUPID like say The Beldorian (it's my favorite go-to on stupid shit the EU pulled), you could always just...ignore it.
My point though is that if you cared about Jacen and hated Darth Caedus there was no way around it. If you thought the Vong were stupid you could skip NJO but the stories going forward were still stuck with those developments. There's a lot of minor stuff you can ignore and you can also ignore the entirety of post-ROTJ EU if you want to, but the same is true now.
>If you thought the Vong were stupid
I still stand by the belief that the Vong were NOT stupid, they were a neat idea executed really really REALLY badly.
Honestly that was kind of the beauty of the Old Republic stuff. We finally had the ability to go back to an era not tied down by like 15 years of EU writing and people could actually write new shit without worrying about how it affected anything written before,
When was the last time Star Wars was fun?
my sister took me to a star wars burlesque show, and it was surprisingly decent and fun in production value until they had the emperor pop out and jacking his prosthetic dick outfit off. it was called the empire strips back, for reference
I already knew that Solo movie was going to be shit when they didn't have the balls to use this song in their trailer.
So good
that song only reminds me of napoleon dynamite but I appreciate the SW lyrics to it
I remember that brief period where Napoleon Dynamite was huge and everyone at school was quoting it. The movie always reminds me of junior year of high school because of that.
my dad had gotten me a Vote For Pedro shirt as a gag gift, it was one of his guilty pleasure movies when I was in middle school. good times, anon, good times.
Ah yes, that period of high school. That being said, Jamiroquai is still fantastic and Canned Heat getting the attention it did from the film was great for him.
I can’t believe people hated this. My uncle had the game we thought it was hilarious
Cringe kino
>Shovelware kinect shit
>Has one of the best songs in gaming
>it's been so long this site is nostalgic for shitty kinect games
if I only didn't have the will to live
Surprised there aren't any gifs of the stormtrooper doing the zombie walk they used as a transition before/after stages
>read thread
>remember that disney is involved in star wars now
Oh shit.
You can get darth vader in the next Kingdom Hearts game now.
Keyblade lightsabers, who wouldn't want one? These things will sell like gacha pulls.
>remember that disney is involved in star wars now
I don't blame you for forgetting. Unlike back in the old days when Lucas would just toss out the SW license to anyone willing to pay the licensing fee, Disney is insanely guarded with it so we barely get any SW-related stuff compared to what we used to.
a solo story is the best star wars movie since 6.
No. I don't. That game was brutally shat on for good reason. The only reason to own one was because of the R2D2 360 console. This game was shipped with it.