Do you guys think that games suck shit lately because the devs got lazy while working from home?
Or maybe because of the outsourcing to the jeets like here ?
What the fuck is going on?
>college students >can't understand fractions and exponents
What the fuck? I started doing fractions in like 4th grade and learned about exponents in 6th or 7th
do you have the actual article and not a 4chan bait headline?
This will not be documented or publicly talked about. You will just start noticing it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay you're a chat GPT bot
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, you're coping.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>screenshots he saved from 4chan
K
if they mass-fire the overpaid bean counter caste that is the hallmark of institutional rot and makes these shitty "cost saving" decisions in the first place, the cost of doing business will adjust.
How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason? You realize they're operated by people who actually went to college right? Lol
2 weeks ago
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>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
hahahahah
2 weeks ago
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>totally unrelated screenshot
K
2 weeks ago
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It's all related.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damn either you actually are a bot or have completely lost your mind lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
probably trying to get banned so he can chud out about unfair mod treatment somewhere else
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're replying to a 4chan NEET, stop feeding it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
Elon fired 80% of Twitter. He has changed so much already and the App still loads when I tap it.
2 weeks ago
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>Elon fired 80% of Twitter.
Yeah that worked out great for him lol
2 weeks ago
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ADL is literally threatening advertisers not to use X
2 weeks ago
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and he is suing them too
2 weeks ago
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Don't worry we will just hire based on melanin and who people like to fuck.
2 weeks ago
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>Fox news >Tucker Carlson
Kek
ADL is literally threatening advertisers not to use X
>the big bad ADL
I love talking to you retards
2 weeks ago
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>the big bad ADL
Yep. ADL is big and it's bad.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are right Faux news lies everything is fine.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine seeing an article like this and thinking "This is women and minorities' fault"
Kek
2 weeks ago
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>a controller error almost caused an accident and the (male) pilots made the right decision and avoided a collision
again, rope
2 weeks ago
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>attorney tells Cucker Carlson
yawn
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Attorney doesn't need to tell anything to Cucker Carlson. We literally see airplanes falling out of the sky
Okay, you're coping.
And the worst is yet to come.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
so true
a plane just over my house just the other day after half my family died after having their tenth mandatory covid shot
I mean this unironically anon
have a nice day
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he doesn't know about the 737 max and all the people faulty pajeet coding murdered
Stay retarded, demonic subhuman.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
All "upper management" types have a life like this. All they do is meetings and earn six figures.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
hahahaha, must be great truly believing that everything in the world is run efficiently and by people with a plan. wait until you find out what the 3rd leading cause of death in the US is and how it's not poverty, police, terrorists, drugs, or any disease.
>WFH IS BAD BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WORK >shows people not doing any work in the office
2 weeks ago
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>people
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
people not doing any work in the office
Bossman revels in gazing at his employees wasting time on pointless busywork in vain. If you take that away, then bossman gets bored.
2 weeks ago
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>Ganker: "Managers want people to come into the office so they can babysit you and make sure you're working!" >also Ganker: "Managers want to watch you do nothing and waste time!"
Uh-huh.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's no contradiction there. They rejoice at your suffering, and they're working on ways to ensure you'll work all 8 hours.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice reading comprehension
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice projection. The point is bossman wants to see you suffer, and hopefully make him money. If you're chilling at home they get neither.
2 weeks ago
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>businesses exist to watch people suffer and not for profit
2 weeks ago
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>twisting words >implying they can't have both
this conversation is over.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
your revolution - much like your hairline - is over.
the best thing about returning to work will be the vapid twats who can't adjust and have to be let go.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
hahahaha, must be great truly believing that everything in the world is run efficiently and by people with a plan. wait until you find out what the 3rd leading cause of death in the US is and how it's not poverty, police, terrorists, drugs, or any disease.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
When does the work start?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you just saw it. that'll be $200k USD + benefits, thanks.
2 weeks ago
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2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Retards see this video and think "lol she's paid to do nothing, muh zoomer" when her video IS the job, she most likely posted this to advertise her employer to young people like her who will graduate soon or already did recently by showing perks that seem impressive at first but don't matter that much in the long run.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
pretty sure most anons here are unemployed and just bitter the world forgot about them
2 weeks ago
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>no, you see, her job isn't useless - it's advertising future useless job positions
2 weeks ago
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That makes it sound like some multi-level marketing scam. I suppose there's some of that going on.
That said, youngsters aren't fucking retarded. Even children can see when something's too good to be true.
2 weeks ago
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>a recruiting ad is evidence of some multi-level marketing scam
jesus christ anon
2 weeks ago
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Well, she did a crap job at recruiting. I am not only unconvinced, but also questioning her value as an employee.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
wtf did you want her to do in a 30 seconds video. Show only the most boring part of her work day? I'm sure the reason why none of these videos show actual work is because they would have to show a shit ton of confidential data on their screens to show that they reply to emails, attend important meetings with managers and clients, etc.
2 weeks ago
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How about reconsidering the existence of this video? It just won't work, cuz people with even a single brain cell will take it the wrong way.
In all honesty, bitch just wanted to gloat, independent of any company desire.
2 weeks ago
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>I'm sure the evidence of my eyes and ears is wrong and this hypothetical fiction i'm making up on the spot has got to be what ACTUALLY happened
2 weeks ago
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>multi-level marketing scam
Not really, if you're properly employed and have a fixed salary and maybe some bonus sometimes you should be doing ok. Do you even know what an MLM is?
>That said, youngsters aren't fucking retarded. Even children can see when something's too good to be true.
There are retards in every generation and yes, even people who aren't that stupid usually can be interested in office jobs that pay well and make it seem like they give a shit about their employees' wellbeing at first if they don't find other job opportunities elsewhere.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
starting to understand why 4chan hates women in the workplace: women have some of the best jobs imaginable
2 weeks ago
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2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yep. An eye-opening piece.
However it does not delve into just how horrifically bad this will end up being in a decade or so. And it does not go into other sectors. Deterioration in tech will be the least of our worries. The very law won't be upheld.
What's worse is that they're Engineering majors. I could barely hack it through Algebra and knew the STEM paths weren't for me, and that's retard College math. I can't even IMAGINE taking calculus and trigonometry without understanding fractions and percentages. How are you supposed to measure weight, dynamics, or even do basic geometry without understanding decimals? Christ.
When you go a year + without doing any math, you will forget stuff and be worse than you started. The effects of lockdown on kids is going to be felt for the next decade at the least
if you dont use what you learn you forget it
you should have noticed this when you was 8 years old and when on holidays just to come back forgetting 90% of worhtless shit you ddidn't usee on holidays
The solution is not to nix remote positions, but to not hire incompetent lackeys and poojeets.
Also, the problem is not the plandemic, it's that teachers AREN'T ALLOWED to fail incompentnt students (>muh graduation rates).
If you want students to succeed, and for teachers to stop using tricks to get additional funding (like passing students who shouldn't to get more grants) then vote for more FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS
Christ! It's so obvious I don't know why people waste time arguing about it. Just give. more. money. to. the. schools.
>vote for more FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS
It doesn't make sense for politicians to invest in education. They get absolutely positive out of it: >put down the money >less money for graft and pork barrels to ensure re-election >delayed results, so whoever's in your post 10+ years later will get all the praise
But what can I expect from someone dumb enough to go to school.
very little makes it to the schools that need it.
also, the no child left behind act has been an absolute disaster, the effects of which will be felt for decades to come.
2 weeks ago
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Giving money to morons won't make them smarter.
2 weeks ago
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>Giving money to morons won't make them smarter.
Which is why you FAIL them and let them go on their merry way.
2 weeks ago
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And the most on military yet you keep losing against goatfuckers and can't even outproduce Russia.
When people say "spend money on -insert whatever-" they don't mean "spend billions on underage haitian and filipino prostitutes while throwing the change into the actual program it was meant for".
2 weeks ago
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seething thirdie detected
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm having the time of my life. I don't want you to improve anything.
2 weeks ago
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yeah life in a favela can be exciting with all of the gang warfare happening
>Teachers will stop using tricks to get funding if we just reward them with more money >They totally won't just double down like literally every other example of government funding
if they mass-fire the overpaid bean counter caste that is the hallmark of institutional rot and makes these shitty "cost saving" decisions in the first place, the cost of doing business will adjust.
3D artists should be present all the time, to be honest. As should everyone else working on the project. When everyone's working remotely, everyone's in their own cell. They can't communicate properly through the internet.
>He thinks they hire pajeets because of remote work
I'm willing to bet that this is some small studio that they outsource some assets or some shit
Literally pick any big game and look at the credits, every single one does this to some extent
have a nice day, senpaitachi
>Small >1500+ employees >Outsourced >Ubisoft India
A lot of you guys need to accept all these 3rd world country studios all go through QA decisions from the whitest, executives in position of power. A lot of bad game is due to white people in the industry and not "NOOO IS THE FEMINIST/PANJEE/BLACKIE WORKING AS A JR 3D ARTIST!!!"
>Source
I work in the games industry. Every single decision that gets green light goes through an entire review process from your lead, supervisor, then executives and clients. The same people who made games back in the 90's are now leading the industry and they suck shit at it. You all have to accept that reality.
driving into an office to sit on a computer and work on things i can do from my home computer is fucking mongoloid and youre a fucking idiot to try to argue otherwise.
it saves energy, time, and lessens rush hour traffic in major cities. don't be a fucking dunce
>driving into an office to sit on a computer and work on things i can do from my home computer is fucking mongoloid and youre a fucking idiot to try to argue otherwise.
You can almost hear the IT Guys screaming in the distance when reading this post. No shit we want you retards corralled to a closed network, we can't trust you to keep track of passwords without writing them down; why would we be happy about you taking sensitive/critical data and keeping it on your compromised ass toasters?
you dont work in IT, nor do you work for a real company. you might be a helpdesk phone monkey at best.
a real company could take care of mfa, and data labeling with an e5 license from o365. you must work for a shitshow.
when we went full wfh we kept our helpdesk monkeys. their days just changed from plugging cords in to being on the phone to tell people how to plug cords in
>What is MFA >What are company computers
You dont know what you're talking about. No company bigger than a fucking closet would ever send employees home to work on their own networks with personal computers. Everything is on a closed network with WFH
I'm pretty sure most companies make you agree as part of your contract that company policy is to keep shit on the company's closed network even working from home
I can because I'm in IT and my last company had the whole department quit when they tried to force us back to the office.
Just admit Mr. Middlemanagmentstein has trained you well like the drooling dog you are.
>why would we be happy about you taking sensitive/critical data and keeping it on your compromised ass toasters?
Pretty sure companies are supposed to lend the necessary tools to their employees. I have a laptop from my company that's made specifically for my job. A much better excuse would have been being worried about getting your shit stolen and having compromising data somewhere you don't know because some retard decided to rob an employee to resell the company's computer or phone.
Any company that's not retarded is gonna give you a cheap ass bulk ordered thin client that's locked down tighter than a nun's asshole and then have you do all your work on the company VPN in a HVD environment on their servers.
i dont even need to give you a hvd, all your traffic goes through cloudflare and you dont have rights to do anything besides open the apps that come with it. usb is also disabled :^)
Because buildings are empty and that makes the billionaire renters seethe. So they throw money at publications to spin a narrative.
It's a disaster for the vidya industry because the workers making games were happier, and it's a disaster for the renting industry because they can't buy a new boat.
I work for a big three corp real estate firm and they are so ridiculously butthurt over people telling companies to fuck off over RTO. We tried enacting the policy and the only people that followed it were the brokers (because every city is a broker office) who are the first group getting mass layoffs, and the 50% of the remainder who happened to live near their department/product team's original designated office from pre-pandemic. Remote and Hybrid are here to stay because having to recruit everyone locally within a 50 mile radius and getting the entire US at your fingertips is too addictive. What used to take almost a full year to recruit can be had in a matter of weeks now. It's complete fluidity of labor. People will only come back to office when they are a couple years in and ready to start fighting for a promotion. Which is why the big three all have lost 50-90% earnings year to year.
It works for some jobs and not others. People with real jobs and things to do work fine from home.
Junior developers that wear jeans to work and barely do anything without direct supervision obviously don't do anything. They might as well be working in a call centre as throwing assets together in unity.
There is no logistical, clerical, mathematical, social, or financial reason to not work-from-home. Your bosses are mad that you got a taste of not being spied on every waking fucking moment of your life, and they have to justify the entire middle-management caste existing.
Are you one of those "retards" I've heard so much about that think WFH doesn't have methods of making sure you're not dicking around? Needless to say if your actual productivity isn't suffering from working the same or fewer hours in a more comfortable environment then there's no reason at all to be angry about WFH. But I'm not talking to a reasonable person right now, I'm talking to a brown teenager from /int/ or some soulless Ganker LARPer that spends all day pretending he's a fat executive with a cigar and a pinky ring who "knows how it really is."
>its probably helping employees work and have less stress
All testing and surveying on work-from-home systems show they're massively improving work stress and cutting down on transportation costs for everyone involved. Problem there is it also means an empty office building, which means your company can't justify renting it out anymore which isn't actually your problem, but your company seems to really really believe they need an office building. The problem also gets bigger and bigger the higher up on the size and population scale you go, because American cities are in general designed for the "drive to Mr. Profitburg's office" model of employment; WFH de-facto renders the American city model completely pointless for a great many occupations that don't actually, specifically require you be physically present.
but... isnt not having to pay for office space a big save for the company?
then we can tear down offices and build more homes to help rent prices maybe
>isnt not having to pay for office space a big save for the company?
There isn't any rational thinking going on about the outrage behind these decisions, it's psychosis the deeper and deeper you go. They want to justify spying on you and tying up most of your day. >then we can tear down offices and build more homes to help rent prices maybe
There's actually plenty of property to go around in the USA, it's a multi-pronged problem of >it's hard to stop being homeless once you're homeless if you don't have anybody to crutch on for any length of time, and city politicians fucking HATE the homeless, to the point of making their cities look like a George Orwell novel full of spikes and nowhere to sit, stand, or get a drink of water in the name of pretending that homeless people don't exist >AirBNB, apartment rentals, homeowner's associations, and other "get rich for no effort" housing schemes (New York City though has effectively outlawed AirBNB's predatory model very recently, it is no longer legal there to rent out your home or any part of it to more than 2 people and for a period of time where you are not present, which was the original intent of AirBNB that you'd rent out a room for a night or two to only one or two travelers or tourists) >there is a fucking massive amount of money floating around the previous two points to both instate and maintain those schemes as status-quo
It's pretty obvious that the only people who want to cancel wfm are upper management suits with big investments in land ownership (i.e. the fucking millions they wasted on a shitty office building that they need to recoup their money on), boomers who like talking about inane bullshit because they're friendless and insufferable, and people who simply like to exert control over others by micromanaging them all the time.
What you're seeing in that regard is the poisonous "infinite growth, forever" mindset prevalent in business drumming its fists against its thighs yelling "NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" at the thought of not reaching some idealized state where they're occupying a building, Valued Employees in it are doing Work, and they're in a very highly profitable position with doubled or tripled profits just around the corner. Worse, what they're doing is drumming its fists against its thighs at the thought of the whole mindset dying.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i read this twice and im not sure what youre actually saying as a reply to what i said
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which makes me wonder, has WFH ever taken foothold in Japan and their focus on corporate culture?
2 weeks ago
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Square Enix has a WFH model set up for Final Fantasy XIV's development if I'm remembering right, they talked about it as a delay for the game's most recent expansion. I think Nintendo has something in that regard too but I can't say for certain.
2 weeks ago
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Square Enix has a WFH model set up for Final Fantasy XIV's development if I'm remembering right, they talked about it as a delay for the game's most recent expansion. I think Nintendo has something in that regard too but I can't say for certain.
Gamefreak employees said there is WFH there.
With how centralizing tokyo is, WFH was probably a massive help for Japan.
2 weeks ago
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There was a bit of WFH in japan, although not nearly as much as the rest of the world. Most companies just outright closed until they get the first wave of vaxx out and then went back to work with everyone wearing masks. They recovered very quickly
2 weeks ago
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> and their focus on corporate culture
What does that mean?
How would I know that? I only came to this shit hole during the 2016 election.
2 weeks ago
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Nobody expects you to. I'm merely educating you.
2 weeks ago
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Its been the overwhelming consensus on the board that since at least Gen 7 that games have only gotten worse. I only caught the tail end of it when I started browsing in 2012. Most posters were complaining consoles were really outdated and underpowered or at least too much focus on fidelity instead of performance. That several genres like RPGs and FPS games were being watered down for console audience. EA really was shitting the bed with ME3 and DS3 at the time. Brown and bloom and blue + orange were the overwhelming majority of game aesthetics. Switching to PC master race was really the cool thing to do back then.
2 weeks ago
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>Brown and bloom and blue + orange were the overwhelming majority of game aesthetics
Not just games, Ganker would endlessly slate that aesthetic too. Could be another reason anime exploded over the past decade.
It wasn't this bad before, back then there were still threads genuinely discussing current games
2 weeks ago
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There still are now. And 8 years ago people were saying gaming is dying and gotten shittier in recent times and that the quality of discussion on Ganker has gotten worse
I've been on this board for going on nearly 13 years now (And I was considered a newfag back then and still a newfag now) and the discussion has never changed.
Its obviously referential to current topics and trends, and I'd say its more pol centric than b centric as it used to be, but then thats the entire world. Everything got more political since social media kicked off.
I have access to the Internet and MS Office at home. I do my job just fine. Maybe if your "job" is "management" it turns out the position is just a big piece of bullshit and doesn't need an 8 hour day.
If zoomers develop a spine and realize they have leverage with their work force they could re-create the good old times and get their way.
2 weeks ago
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They're doing it in a big way lately, unions are pretty heavily on the rise through the whole nation. I think it was Amazon that got caught trying to have a board-room meeting laugh about a black guy "not being smart enough" to start a union, then he successfully unionized.
Unless you're some kind of essential personnel like Security, there's not many jobs that really should require this. But when you're some gay middle manager who's job is to oversee productivity, its easy to prove you're doing something by holding meetings and wasting everyone's time. When everyone's wfh and busy doing their shit without you interfering, its suddenly much harder to show your worth.
It does come down to proper prior planning, but people tends to forget not everyone works shitty fast food, retail, or office jobs. In actual manufacturing you have tangible quotas and only so many hours to reach them. It's either five days or ten hours shifts so pick your poison.
Factories can easily tag-team employees off into four-or-five hour shifts, problem there is they'd be hiring double the number of people and the whole idea is to squeeze blood from a stone.
2 weeks ago
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Precisely, it'd be easily doable to have shorter shift patterns for the same pay but that would mean the top level bosses would have to sacrifice their bonuses and a bit of their salary. >REEEEE WE ALREADY GAVE YOU A 4% RAISE, WHY AREN'T YOU PLEBS HAPPY THAT YOU MAKE JUST ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE
2 weeks ago
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I think it was CNN? One of the major news networks recently had an interview with an auto exec, for some reason asking what she thought about the recent SAG-AFTRA strikes, and she basically answered that more pay wasn't felt as necessary if they can give vague benefits like "top level healthcare." It really does boil down to them not wanting to fucking pay people for the work done.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>she basically answered that more pay wasn't felt as necessary if they can give vague benefits like "top level healthcare"
Kek, the same line is trouted out in my place as the reason it is a better place to work than the competition.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And they'll piss and moan about how ungrateful you are if you want those benefits to include dental insurance, too.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't even know people manage to pull off strikes, I work for a small company with like 3 branches in total with ~100 people at my branch. Everyone gets treated and paid like shit but everyone is so whipped and scared about their job security that nothing will ever improve. Upper management just does their rounds whipping different departments cause doing 100% last month means not doing 110% the next month is shameful display and everyone in the other departments just ignore it cause it's not their their head getting egg that time.
you'd think after multiple decades of shows ragging on just how fucking pointless office work is and how much dicking around goes on in the office it'd be hard for even an epic Ganker troll to try and argue that suit-and-tie office work is a "real job"
This is the true big brain take honestly. I often do like a couple weeks in office as well as from home and honestly you spend as much time fucking around, drinking coffee and talking to people in office as you do playing vidya or drinking coffee at home.
I work better at home than at the shitty open plan office we have now because I can do whatever needs to be done when I want, while the office is inconvenient and noisy despite all of us needing to call clients and plan online meetings with them all the time, and commuting there is hell.
>all independent studies say that wfh improved productivity because people bang out all their work in 3 hours >paid research says wfh bad because they finish their work and don't keep working after finishing the work even though they did what they usually do in an 8 hour day in 3 hours
As a hybrid wagecuck, my wfh days are a lot more productive.
>go to office >have to 'small talk' with everyone all day >shares office, have to listen to conversations from people not even on my team whose work has nothing to do with me
Makes 0 sense to not have them work from home when you can just have them rotate collaboration meetings on a monthly basis and pocket the saved desk fees by downsizing to essentially a conference space. WFH also allows you to tell employees to shut the fuck up and work after hours and on the weekend if work comes in. People tell you to fuck off if they're commuting normally.
My company moved their HQ from a full campus to 4 floors in a skyscraper and saved like a million dollars on rent and maintenance per year and use the floors for management and meetings. They seem to be doing well.
because companies don't pay the travel expenses.
employees spend their own time commuting and their own money on cars and gas
there's no way I would change from remote to in person unless the company was gonna pay me for the extra hours per day I spent driving to the job, imagine losing 2 hours per day for 0 benefit
It depends on the country, and the company within the country.
Japanese companies will pay you every penny it costs to get to work based on where you were living when they hired you. They see it as "We hired you in your current state to do a job, we will pay to make sure you can do that job".
British companies on the other hand, see it as "part and parcel" of working in "The exciting corporate environment" and expect you to pay your own way.
>there's no way I would change from remote to in person unless the company was gonna pay me for the extra hours per day I spent driving to the job, imagine losing 2 hours per day for 0 benefit
Benefit is I'm at my fucking home, anon.
>Megalomaniac managers after 3 days without being able to breath down wagie's neck >No longer able to call them to work at 11 pm on a Saturday >They are doing the same quality of work without them being there to scream at the wagies
Pic related, everything is all about managers losing their power, like reddit mods.
>everything is all about managers losing their power,
It absolutely is. Right now managers' job is to convince those higher than them they are needed. They provide zero tangible contribution to a company, and they are dead scared of everyone else realizing it. HR is in the same boat, they are so fucked if wfh becomes more and more popular.
Bigger companies might still keep some HR around, but the numbers are massively bloated right now. The more we move to wfh, the more companies will realize HR is just expenses with no benefit.
Personnel recruitment takes little to no effort now that they don't have to scour local jurisdiction and can just recruit from the entire 50 states. Also less in person interactions makes for less risks for them to manage. All HR does at this point is surf LinkedIn, copy paste onboarding materials, rubber stamp returns, and layoff people. And all of this at vastly decreased difficulty. 1 person can do the work of 10 at this point.
>the ceo of my company keeps including a vote to go back to the office in every meeting, the coo, cfo , etc all say no they think its a waste of time. His only excuse is he misses seeing people.
just sell the lease mother fucker no one is coming back
In a chain style setup where one position/department's work leads into the next one's down the line, remote work drastically increased time between communications and responses which leads to a lot more problems popping up. Someone misses a memo about a bugfix and suddenly someone two floors down in implementation is having an aneurysm.
literally zero people in here have mentioned the primary reason boomer management demands people return to the office
most office building leases are 3-5 years, with 3 being the absolute minimum, and some go up to 10 years
why do they sign crazy leases, you ask? they get tax breaks for having occupied office buildings in designated "business center" areas. cities give benefits like these to companies because their employees eat out nearby and otherwise utilize services that bring money into the economy of the city.
well, a huge number of those leases got signed in 2019 or early 2020, so they got completely fucked and stuck in them during COVID
it is likely better to have no office vs. the tax breaks, but if the office MUST be there, they want to get those tax breaks, so you, mr. wagie, must return to the office
This is literally it. Its all about leases, office space and building rental. There's a reason all the upper echelons of companies (And even then, only the UPPER upper echelons) want a return to the office and everyone else doesn't. Because they profit from it and it costs everyone else.
literally every single remote workers posts about how they do 1 hour of work at most every day while playing videogames/living their lives. What a fucking shock companies want people to get the fuck back to the office.
Maybe if you cunts kept your mouths shut you wouldn't be in this situation
how do these remote workers not get fired right away if they are that much less productive compared to back when they were in office?
maybe all the work they have to do really can get completed in a short amount of time, ever think of that??
Most jobs are fake and companies pay you to be available. If you do not understand this you're unironically NGMI. I did maybe 2-3 hours of work most days a week when I was IN office, nothing fundamentally changed when we were REMOTE from office. >t. former employee of an F500 marketing department
>marketing
have a nice day
you do nothing but suck the joy out of every good thing
have a nice day immediately. it is the only way to save your soul. have a nice day have a nice day have a nice day
unironically, completely sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, have a nice day.
At this point I'd rather go on welfare than go back to an office. I've made it clear to my boss that if going in to the office becomes mandatory, I'm quitting.
Ubisoft was outsourcing coding & engine work to India for years.
Suddenly though "work-from-home" is a problem because the Canadians realized how utterly pointless having to spend hours every day commuting to a cubiclefarm is when you're just talking to Rajesh via emails regardless of your location.
There's some big gay meeting on Thursday at work and I have a feeling they're going to tell everyone to come back in.
I was remote before the pandemic and I was hired back after a brief 'rona furlough as full time remote so I'm going to quit if they do.
Plenty of title companies still offering remote work out there because there's hardly anyone who is in this industry.
I found a job in another city that I can't commute to so if shit like this happens I won't have to come back.
Of course there's a risk of getting fired, but I have a lot of experience so I just don't give a fuck.
If they want me to leave my multi monitor widescreen set up in a job where I have to review digital documents all day to go back to their shitty PCs and tiny screens and bad posture chairs they're dreaming.
And I've been with the company 12 years but I've leave in a heartbeat.
Everytime i hear news about ending wfh is some north american company or canada. Is this really happening worldwide?
WFH is pandoras box. Once it was opened its not going anywhere.
t. Bonglandian and every time I go for a job interview whether its WFH or not is brought up BY the employer in sense of >Positive: "You'll be pleased to know we offer flexible working solutions - you're able to WFH multiple days a week"
Or >Negative: "Now... this position ISNT WFH... its entirely office based... how do you feel about that?" (They are visibly worried and must see people back out at this stage to have this reaction)
you guys are just scratching the real reason. failing companies bring back offices to just get people to quit and lower headcount without severance and benefits
WFH is pandoras box. Once it was opened its not going anywhere.
t. Bonglandian and every time I go for a job interview whether its WFH or not is brought up BY the employer in sense of >Positive: "You'll be pleased to know we offer flexible working solutions - you're able to WFH multiple days a week"
Or >Negative: "Now... this position ISNT WFH... its entirely office based... how do you feel about that?" (They are visibly worried and must see people back out at this stage to have this reaction)
so many envious people
sorry neets and dead end job anons
but we IT guys get to earn 6 figures, work from home and barely do any actual work hours
too late for you now, should have been born smart
Remote working has been a disaster, because it shows flaws in incompetent middle management. If manager doesnt know how to manage (ie set reasonable goals and oversee work completion), he cannot demand more from workers-at-home, whereas they'll do at least something in office environment due to peer pressure.
Companies with incompetent management dip hard if they allow work at home. If you can force them back to office, you can keep on "making progress", ie middle management says "get this barely-defined shit done" and leave the workload management to workers.
T. Middle manager in a company where nearly everyone works at home
WFH is only good if you want to fool around.
Work quality takes a nose dive when there is no face to face communication with team members.
I say this as someone who has worked from home for over a year during covid.
>inb4 triggered neets and lazy losers doing a dead end job
>Work quality takes a nose dive when there is no face to face communication with team members.
look at this useless middle management parasite. Hey retard, if I need to review a Beneficiary Note from a mortage to make sure the dipshit originator of the loan signed the endorsement in a state where note possession can force a foreclosure to go judicial, what "communication" do I need with someone else?
you fucking retard
Cope harder gay.
The only reason you lazy fucks want wfh so bad is because you want to be lazy and do pajeet-tier bare minimum without accountability. You will get your ass back to office, and you will do your job properly. This is inevitable. WFH just doesn't work and no amount of cope can prove otherwise.
except I do
I can
and I will continue to do so at my job, because I don't have to go back ever.
You will lose your job. You are useless. You provide nothing of substance to your company.
You're going to be cut like Lumburgh by the Bobs in Office Space
LOL
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>and I will continue to do so at my job, because I don't have to go back ever.
NTA but you will lose your job eventually. i can say this with certainty because every fucking loser with this level of arrogance that i've been around has been fired and had to take a MASSIVE step back in QoL because they can't get the same job after being shitkicked.
you're a child in a man's game and it shows.
Junior, I've been with my company longer than you've had dropped balls and I've been remote for much much longer than 3 years.
You're a fucking idiot who is scared shitless his useless role is at an end.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Junior
arrogance confirmed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes, because I'm better, stronger, older, more virile, richer, and more handsome than you.
Also what a fucking WASTE of digits, holy shit.
I give you until 2024 tops until you are either forced to get your ass back to office or get fired and replaced by pajeets.
>You will get your ass back to office, and you will do your job properly.
No I won't. I quit and went somewhere that hired me as full remote for more pay. Last I heard my old company is struggling hard because we were already having trouble hiring and then they tried to bring everyone back because the CEO of Chase said >wfh bad
in an article. KEK
You idiots never see the big picture. ALL remote jobs will eventually be outsourced to India. It's just a matter of time.
FHA and other similar government loans are LITERALLY not able to be serviced by foreign people you fucking
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
You don't know what I do, where I do it, or whom I do it for.
you're seething so bad, and all the shit you're inventing in your head to 'own' me is just not sticking
KEK
>You will get your ass back to office, and you will do your job properly.
No I won't. I quit and went somewhere that hired me as full remote for more pay. Last I heard my old company is struggling hard because we were already having trouble hiring and then they tried to bring everyone back because the CEO of Chase said >wfh bad
in an article. KEK
Hybrid systems are the best solution. Like in a 5-day work week you could have 3 or 4 homeoffice days and 1 or 2 in-office days, that way you can ensure still a minimum amount of personal contact between collegues while also still taking full advantage of the homeoffice model.
>enforce hybrid system >make both sides mad at you
Here where I work we just choose if we go or not. I pretty much go once a month just to meet some friends.
>there should at least be a periodic mandatory meet-up in person. Once a month
No. Fuck man stop this boomer mentality. We don't need to do a firm hand shake to work together. There should be an objective and practical reason to meet in person. Not some vague idea based on your feelings of what work should be.
We have that at my job but can't choose the days that are more convenient, our manager decided to let me wfh every wednesdays and thursdays and she forgot to ask me again now that a bunch of people who had the days I wanted left so I'm still stuck with going to the office every friday. And she decided to force us to come to the office all at the same time two days every month to make thing even more stupid.
Its not an issue with remote work, its brain drain from the industry and a focus on shit that does not make video games good.
Great example of this, games that have stood the test of time, and were made because the teams wanted it, loved it, and knew others would, Fallout 1, 2, System shock, baulders gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights, ect ect.
Modern game industry is to fucking focused on turning entertainment into a money printing machine and focues on pointless shit like graphics, player retention metrics, diversity quota bullshit, and retarded amounts of in game cut scenes and bullshit.
The industry has gotten to big, its filled with bullshit pointless middle management like positions that suck up more time and resources then ever and result in half finished garbage by people who are unskilled.
i work in games on the art side. I do think WFH isnt the best for overall production. Constantly waiting to hear back from people who might not even be, "in office" today. I have to wait insane amount of hours before i get answers from people. Meanwhile when I was in the office I literally could just walk up to them. I believe Hybrid is the perfect setup. Plus if you arent a complete shut in, you grow actual strong relationships/friends.
32 but I made longterm friendships from working in a office. I feel bad for anyone entering the industry right now at a young age. I benefited from networking in my younger years.
You say that like people who WFH don't just work their regular schedule
They don't. You will get a morning meeting, but after 3pm good luck getting answers. Meanwhile you have other departments waiting for you to finish something, yet the 3 major lever designers are all idle, and you don't get vital answer you you need till 6:30 at night. Shit, now I need to work till midnight so I have proper adjustments shown in the next morning meeting.
your management sounds incompetent as fuck. From business open to business close I am expected to be in my chair and ready to handle shit. If I need a moment here or there, no big deal, but going afk for 30-40 minutes?
That's a your company problem
building rapport with your coworkers and higher-ups is very beneficial. you sound like a retarded child who hasn't anything worked in anything above service.
he's clearly a boss knob polisher. He can't deep throat that 4 incher from home, which is why he's seething. He knows that if he doesn't powder Mr. Johnson's balls juuust right that his job is in danger.
Lots of indies were made by industry professionals who quit their jobs together to work on a game. If they worked from home, that probably would have never happened.
I would never trust my employees to work from home if I were Ubisoft. You just know they are playing games the entire time instead of actually working. WFH has been a disaster to the video game industry.
>playing games the entire time instead of actually working
As opposed to fucking around on their phones and loitering in the break room instead of actually working.
It's insane to read all of these propaganda posts about Ubisoft, Actiblizz, and other AAA studios who haven't produced anything of value in over a decade. As if there's a recent decline and WFH is to blame rather than these AAA studios universally being awful at what they do and being terrible places to work no matter how you have it.
Generally speaking, they employ bots to endlessly spam pro-company PR in order to lessen public outcry. Virtually everyone knows that these firms are horrible places to work with a bored management team watching your every move. Other uses for bots include spamming 'subtle' advertising in which 'one of the guys' tells you that things aren't so bad, creating false consensus for elections on both the political and the corporate front, and trying to bait the opposition into circular arguments... Or just bombard the opposing party with spam.
I remember being blown away when my professor showed how much of the internet revolved around selling you a product in 2012. Now it's even worse. Way worse, as the Internet went from ten-big corporations (things were bad even back then) to just four. Look at the five-star Glass Door ratings for Walmart or the 'positive' reviews for complete pieces of shit like the new Star Wars game. >t. Advertising guy
Speaking of advertising there is a new incentive being pushed to bypass or outright remove adblockers as a concept. I'd imagine you would see a lot more traffic once these measures start getting pushed into becoming mandatory. The internet has practically destroyed most forms of boomer media and they are making strides to occupy this space as their old demographic of boomers are counting their days towards the grave.
It has been a blessing, it easily separates the weak from the strong.
Many Studios realeased ass games since COVID and other created great shit, it just filters the retards.
Im convinced that people who bitch about work from home, either have never had a work from home job, or work in an industry where they are only open 9-5 mon-fri
Let me tell you anon, i have been working from home now since 2020, and yeah, i wont lie its got its up but its not all its cracked up to be.
I tell people this when it comes to WFH: >The best thing about WFH is you can wake up at 7am, roll outta bed in your underware or naked, and be at the office. >The worst thing about WFH is you can wake up at 7am, roll outta bed in your underware or naked, and be at the office.
There is no such thing as 'no office hours.' when you work in a 24/7 industry. Even in a 9-5 industry the reality is, you are usually fielding calls between 7AM to 6PM. On top of that, you cant just 'leave it at the office.' because the office is your home as well.
The idea of say, sick days? Yeah they dont really exist, because unless you are bedridden you still kinda have to get work done.
The notion that "Oh man well i work from home so i can do xyz while im at home." Does not actually work that way.
On top of that it DOES require more discipline to get shit done.
Work from home is great, but not everyone can do it, and the majority of people who bitch about it either have never done it, realize that they have a pointless position, or are middle management/HR and need to justify their job some how.
youre a fucking cuck man, use your time and turn your computer off when its quitting time.
you sound like youd sit in an office "getting work done" past 6 to look like a goodboy.
wfh isnt the issue, you are.
>Missed the part about 24/7 industry.
Does not work that way anon, not in every industry.
I wont give specifics, but for example, my company we work 24/7 365 days a year servicing customers and guests. In a highly HIGHLY regulated industry across the entire US, which literal mountains of legal paperwork, and license and regulations. There is no OFF, for some industries, there is only "Ok, you get to field this bullshit for the week" situations and even then, some time a person who is on call for things like that, cant even even handle it all and some one else has to pick it up.
WFH is not all its cracked up to be.
If i worked in an industry like fucking developing video games? Yeah you bet your ass, 5PM hits Computer goes off.
But when you are dealing in an industry where a VP has to page out to you because some one is upset they can spend literally millions of dollars, you dont get to say, "Yeah ill do it on Monday." The pay makes up for that, and being able to work from home is part of that benefit.
Its not really a skill issue, its a matter of what industry you are in.
Some industries you can turn it off at 5PM sharp, others you cant.
For example, i know a buddy of mine he works in an office, 9-5, 30 min commute each way, works hard, but once 5 hits he is done.
I work like 7am to 6PM every day of the week, but the thing is, during that time i can do shit like play video games if its a slow day, or catch up on reading or take a workout break, but then there are days i just work all weekend.
Everyone puts in their time one way or another. WFH works for some industies, does not for others.
right so wfh isnt the issue, its your industry.
Yes exactly, thats what i have been saying, WFH works for some industries, it does not for others.
IMO i think if you work a job that the expectation is "We have a dead line to get this done, in these many hours." Like say video games.
THe workers are much better off working from the office not from home. The reason is because if you have office hours 9-5 that means what SHOULD be happening is thats how timeing and budgitting is planned at that point, with the idea that "OK my workers are goign to be here for these hours, this is how much work we can get done in these hours."
If you do work from home, weather or not people will admit it, there will be an expectation to work well past 8 hours a day if it means you can get the project done faster.
WFH can fuck you over if you work to hard is the issue.
But if you look at an industry where its a 24/7 industry, WFH works great because its allows you to be more fluid, "Oh i did not actually do a lot of work between 9-5 but im getting hammered with issues at 7PM.
Vs if you tried that in an office your employee has to sit there from 9-5 in the office basically trying to find shit to do, then get blasted with MORE work at 7pm on top of that, which results in burning out your employees.
All of your issues with WFH are completely personal you retard. Set boundaries. I work in a high pressure job too and am sometimes asked to be on at odd hours, the difference between you and me is I set boundaries and expectations and do not make myself available constantly
There's no real reason why everyone has to have a 9-5 job in an office when real work can be done within a few hours thanks to the computer revolution. Until they increase pay where it falls inline with inflation or they cut off work hours but still pay the same, this charade is going to continue. WFH is the best compromise right now for this bullshit system and until something major changes, it shall be for the norm for the foreseeable future.
Most people I met that didn't like WFH were boomers who hated staying in his house with his wife or kids, most of them didn't even knew what to do with more free time (cause you don't need to commute), the only relevant things in their life is literally work, they start going crazy if they aren't living to work, it's like they need to keep their brain busy with work or they start realizing their lives sucks ass.
>my company sold three of our offices >kept one >I was hired as full perma remote pre pandemic >IT actually just mailed me my physical work tower since the VPN to the station at the office wasn't allowed anymore
feels good to be going anywhere any time soon baby
118k/year, web dev for proprietary auto dealership software.
Not a publicly-traded company so pajeets aren't a concern. Exporting duties to India is exclusively a decision made by corner-cutting corpos. It's also something they tried during the financial crisis in 2010 and it was catastrophic enough for multiple VPs to get replaced.
Though even if it was, I'm in a senior position so my job would only shift from development to fixing bloated and non-functional modules from third-parties.
I'm a software developer so maybe if they manage to produce good code one day. We can barely find new people to hire so no one is getting fired anytime soon.
>working as a recruiter >bunch of foreign coworkers get hired at the same time as me because the company got a new huge client and they were all available >suddenly several of them get issues with their work permit, can't work until they renew it but the nearest possible date to get an appointment for that is 3/4 months after the work permits expire >stuck doing my job and theirs >they eventually come back and fuck off again because they don't like the job anyway >client ask us to recruit even more, another team in another country in our continent helps us permanently >they won't stop fucking up because of tiny little cultural differences, because they don't know subtilties in our labor laws which are irrelevant for them but super obvious for anyone in HR in my country, we all have to correct them all the time >turns out the point of this shit was to make that team abroad take all our work because they're cheaper but instead they promoted me and another girl which is more expensive and the company is super stingy so that says a lot about the situation
No I'm not getting replaced anytime soon. If I'm ever replaced I'll collect unemployment benefits for some time, relax and look for work somewhere else at my own pace.
It's funny to see gays threatened by indians that they have them squatting and shitting on their minds rent free to screech about them in every single thread on Ganker.
Im not a shitskin. I hate indians. I hate thinking about them. I hate seeing them. The fact that Ganker has been ramping up unironic indian posting is causing me to leave this board for the first time in 10 years.
There's only three people who hate WFH:
Helicopter managers who can only get erect when they micromanage other people's lives
Parasitic corporate landlords who have lost tons of money because nobody needs office space anymore
Friendless losers who can only get social interaction at work
>Friendless losers who can only get social interaction at work
I don't think I've spoken a word all weekend and won't until I go to the office tomorrow, I love remote work.
>hardly anyone seems happy
ubimtl employee here, this is an outright lie, the only people unhappy are the habitual neurotic gays crying and replying to each other in the comment section of our internal news page, the vast majority are at worst annoyed a bit by it but recognize that even if wfh has it's advantages for individuals, it has affected production negatively as a whole, most people are fine with going back.
>middle management wants power of the wagies >upper management own the office buildings and are stuck in the leases of buildings now that hold zero value >lower management are lapdog yeswomen and pajeets
They want the office jobs to go back to the office because otherwise the managers are shown to be completely worthless money sinks (not that the office jobs themselves aren't worthless bullshit shuffling money around) and the 'economy' crashes because 90% of it is finance, media, and service industry crap.
God I wish the world was back to peak pandemic. I miss being able to drive around with no one on the road. Going to work was great it was just me and a few other people bullshitting all day.
remember when Ubi Montreal was good? my goodness that was so very very long ago. They may as well have closed their doors being out of the office for three years.
The CEOs get mad about remote working because it drives down real estate prices when people aren't forced to live in the city, or near it, for work. And they own a lot of property. It also damages the service industries nearby, like coffee shops, restaurants, etc.
Really, getting rid of remote work is better for the economy.
If you can work remotely that means your job can be done by Indians for peanuts. Everyone thinks they're above it and too important for it to ever happen to them, that's literally what every person that worked at home then fired thinks.
been working from home for 3 years now and gas costs now about twice as much as it did 3 years ago
so the only way Im ever going back to office is if I get a fat raise and we all know its not going to happen
Have you seen the state of video game development in the last 3 years. Everything launches in a broken state. Work from home is utterly inefficient, people only like it because it lets them get away with being lazy.
>Have you seen the state of video game development in the last 3 years. Everything launches in a broken state.
Have you seen the last 8 years of gaming?
I've been on wfh since covid.
I will unequivocally admit I have basically gotten paid to be a neet since then. I don't think I've gotten up before 10am more than a dozen times. It's so bad even I feel guilty, but as long as the (extremely little) work I have is done, I keep getting paid.
Got a raise this year too.
Literally the only reason work from home is being canceled is that managers were shitting themselves over not being able to control people for 8 hours a day. Iirc productivity rose almost across the board during WFH
It's literally middle manager cope. People without marketable talent, skills, or experience want to keep their managing jobs that let them feel like they're contributing without doing anything but negatively affecting the work flow of people who are actually contributing.
Deep down they all know this, which is why 99% of them are raging gays.
When employees manage themselves, middle managers can no longer pretend to be useful.
The higher ups and middle managers are always on the same team so they will always protect each other against the rank-and-file workers.
>you need to be mad about returning to work because i and many others are mad about returning to work
gonna go in, do my job then go home. you chapo gays can die on the street for all i care.
I like my work and the people I work with. Drive is only 15 minutes from my place. It gets me out of the house which is great. You must really hate your work if you don't like spending time there and rather be in the house all day
Do you guys think that games suck shit lately because the devs got lazy while working from home?
Or maybe because of the outsourcing to the jeets like here ?
What the fuck is going on?
why not both?
It’s most likely both.
People who were lazy at home were lazy in the office.
Competency Crisis is being brought upon by many different factors working in tangent.
There is no easy solution.
>college students
>can't understand fractions and exponents
What the fuck? I started doing fractions in like 4th grade and learned about exponents in 6th or 7th
It's not true.
Oh you can't comprehend what's coming.
>just two more weeks until society collapses!
K
It won't collapse at once. It will rot.
This will not be documented or publicly talked about. You will just start noticing it.
okay you're a chat GPT bot
Okay, you're coping.
>screenshots he saved from 4chan
K
How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason? You realize they're operated by people who actually went to college right? Lol
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
hahahahah
>totally unrelated screenshot
K
It's all related.
Damn either you actually are a bot or have completely lost your mind lol
probably trying to get banned so he can chud out about unfair mod treatment somewhere else
You're replying to a 4chan NEET, stop feeding it.
>Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
Elon fired 80% of Twitter. He has changed so much already and the App still loads when I tap it.
>Elon fired 80% of Twitter.
Yeah that worked out great for him lol
ADL is literally threatening advertisers not to use X
and he is suing them too
Don't worry we will just hire based on melanin and who people like to fuck.
>Fox news
>Tucker Carlson
Kek
>the big bad ADL
I love talking to you retards
>the big bad ADL
Yep. ADL is big and it's bad.
You are right Faux news lies everything is fine.
Imagine seeing an article like this and thinking "This is women and minorities' fault"
Kek
>a controller error almost caused an accident and the (male) pilots made the right decision and avoided a collision
again, rope
>attorney tells Cucker Carlson
yawn
Attorney doesn't need to tell anything to Cucker Carlson. We literally see airplanes falling out of the sky
And the worst is yet to come.
so true
a plane just over my house just the other day after half my family died after having their tenth mandatory covid shot
I mean this unironically anon
have a nice day
>he doesn't know about the 737 max and all the people faulty pajeet coding murdered
Stay retarded, demonic subhuman.
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
All "upper management" types have a life like this. All they do is meetings and earn six figures.
>WFH IS BAD BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WORK
>shows people not doing any work in the office
>people
people not doing any work in the office
Bossman revels in gazing at his employees wasting time on pointless busywork in vain. If you take that away, then bossman gets bored.
>Ganker: "Managers want people to come into the office so they can babysit you and make sure you're working!"
>also Ganker: "Managers want to watch you do nothing and waste time!"
Uh-huh.
There's no contradiction there. They rejoice at your suffering, and they're working on ways to ensure you'll work all 8 hours.
Nice reading comprehension
Nice projection. The point is bossman wants to see you suffer, and hopefully make him money. If you're chilling at home they get neither.
>businesses exist to watch people suffer and not for profit
>twisting words
>implying they can't have both
this conversation is over.
your revolution - much like your hairline - is over.
the best thing about returning to work will be the vapid twats who can't adjust and have to be let go.
>How incompetent do you think these companies actually are? Do you actually think they're just hiring dozens and dozens of useless people for no reason?
hahahaha, must be great truly believing that everything in the world is run efficiently and by people with a plan. wait until you find out what the 3rd leading cause of death in the US is and how it's not poverty, police, terrorists, drugs, or any disease.
When does the work start?
you just saw it. that'll be $200k USD + benefits, thanks.
Retards see this video and think "lol she's paid to do nothing, muh zoomer" when her video IS the job, she most likely posted this to advertise her employer to young people like her who will graduate soon or already did recently by showing perks that seem impressive at first but don't matter that much in the long run.
pretty sure most anons here are unemployed and just bitter the world forgot about them
>no, you see, her job isn't useless - it's advertising future useless job positions
That makes it sound like some multi-level marketing scam. I suppose there's some of that going on.
That said, youngsters aren't fucking retarded. Even children can see when something's too good to be true.
>a recruiting ad is evidence of some multi-level marketing scam
jesus christ anon
Well, she did a crap job at recruiting. I am not only unconvinced, but also questioning her value as an employee.
wtf did you want her to do in a 30 seconds video. Show only the most boring part of her work day? I'm sure the reason why none of these videos show actual work is because they would have to show a shit ton of confidential data on their screens to show that they reply to emails, attend important meetings with managers and clients, etc.
How about reconsidering the existence of this video? It just won't work, cuz people with even a single brain cell will take it the wrong way.
In all honesty, bitch just wanted to gloat, independent of any company desire.
>I'm sure the evidence of my eyes and ears is wrong and this hypothetical fiction i'm making up on the spot has got to be what ACTUALLY happened
>multi-level marketing scam
Not really, if you're properly employed and have a fixed salary and maybe some bonus sometimes you should be doing ok. Do you even know what an MLM is?
>That said, youngsters aren't fucking retarded. Even children can see when something's too good to be true.
There are retards in every generation and yes, even people who aren't that stupid usually can be interested in office jobs that pay well and make it seem like they give a shit about their employees' wellbeing at first if they don't find other job opportunities elsewhere.
starting to understand why 4chan hates women in the workplace: women have some of the best jobs imaginable
Yep. An eye-opening piece.
However it does not delve into just how horrifically bad this will end up being in a decade or so. And it does not go into other sectors. Deterioration in tech will be the least of our worries. The very law won't be upheld.
It is crazy.
do you have the actual article and not a 4chan bait headline?
What's worse is that they're Engineering majors. I could barely hack it through Algebra and knew the STEM paths weren't for me, and that's retard College math. I can't even IMAGINE taking calculus and trigonometry without understanding fractions and percentages. How are you supposed to measure weight, dynamics, or even do basic geometry without understanding decimals? Christ.
When you go a year + without doing any math, you will forget stuff and be worse than you started. The effects of lockdown on kids is going to be felt for the next decade at the least
if you dont use what you learn you forget it
you should have noticed this when you was 8 years old and when on holidays just to come back forgetting 90% of worhtless shit you ddidn't usee on holidays
you let women rule you - you are done for
Women and other undesirables. It's an unholy cocktail of shit and even the tools that could fix this mess were confiscated.
The solution is not to nix remote positions, but to not hire incompetent lackeys and poojeets.
Also, the problem is not the plandemic, it's that teachers AREN'T ALLOWED to fail incompentnt students (>muh graduation rates).
If you want students to succeed, and for teachers to stop using tricks to get additional funding (like passing students who shouldn't to get more grants) then vote for more FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS
Christ! It's so obvious I don't know why people waste time arguing about it. Just give. more. money. to. the. schools.
Shut up commie we have to fund 10 Nimitz carriers to help out Israel!
>vote for more FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS
It doesn't make sense for politicians to invest in education. They get absolutely positive out of it:
>put down the money
>less money for graft and pork barrels to ensure re-election
>delayed results, so whoever's in your post 10+ years later will get all the praise
But what can I expect from someone dumb enough to go to school.
america spends the most per capita on education
very little makes it to the schools that need it.
also, the no child left behind act has been an absolute disaster, the effects of which will be felt for decades to come.
Giving money to morons won't make them smarter.
>Giving money to morons won't make them smarter.
Which is why you FAIL them and let them go on their merry way.
And the most on military yet you keep losing against goatfuckers and can't even outproduce Russia.
When people say "spend money on -insert whatever-" they don't mean "spend billions on underage haitian and filipino prostitutes while throwing the change into the actual program it was meant for".
seething thirdie detected
I'm having the time of my life. I don't want you to improve anything.
yeah life in a favela can be exciting with all of the gang warfare happening
>Teachers will stop using tricks to get funding if we just reward them with more money
>They totally won't just double down like literally every other example of government funding
the solution is to stop importing millions of low iq subhumans
Corporations would rather import cheap workers than give native workers higher pay to have children.
the average off-topic headline poster's obsession with the fourteen words will never not confuse me
Seethe
jesus christ companies need to quit hiring shitty cheap labor and hire real professionals that know what the fuck they are doing.
GTA trilogy remaster was the straw that broke the camel's back for me with this bullshit.
If they do that games will cost $200
Bullshit
In order to keep making them at the scale they are now, it's not.
>then they should scale them down
I agree but good luck getting them to.
if they mass-fire the overpaid bean counter caste that is the hallmark of institutional rot and makes these shitty "cost saving" decisions in the first place, the cost of doing business will adjust.
>3D artists
Don't see how outsourcing this particular job would cause a chain of problems
3D artists should be present all the time, to be honest. As should everyone else working on the project. When everyone's working remotely, everyone's in their own cell. They can't communicate properly through the internet.
I'm willing to bet that this is some small studio that they outsource some assets or some shit
Literally pick any big game and look at the credits, every single one does this to some extent
have a nice day, senpaitachi
It is actually, they're a studio that worked on every major AAA game in the past 10 years like Elden Ring, uncharted and Baldur's gate 3.
Ubislop/ZeniShit
>He thinks they hire pajeets because of remote work
>Small
>1500+ employees
>Outsourced
>Ubisoft India
A lot of you guys need to accept all these 3rd world country studios all go through QA decisions from the whitest, executives in position of power. A lot of bad game is due to white people in the industry and not "NOOO IS THE FEMINIST/PANJEE/BLACKIE WORKING AS A JR 3D ARTIST!!!"
>Source
I work in the games industry. Every single decision that gets green light goes through an entire review process from your lead, supervisor, then executives and clients. The same people who made games back in the 90's are now leading the industry and they suck shit at it. You all have to accept that reality.
>I work in the games industry.
no you dont
>Siddharth RakSHIT
>everyone bitching about things returning to the way it was pre-pandemic
>"wait not like that"
driving into an office to sit on a computer and work on things i can do from my home computer is fucking mongoloid and youre a fucking idiot to try to argue otherwise.
it saves energy, time, and lessens rush hour traffic in major cities. don't be a fucking dunce
>driving into an office to sit on a computer and work on things i can do from my home computer is fucking mongoloid and youre a fucking idiot to try to argue otherwise.
You can almost hear the IT Guys screaming in the distance when reading this post. No shit we want you retards corralled to a closed network, we can't trust you to keep track of passwords without writing them down; why would we be happy about you taking sensitive/critical data and keeping it on your compromised ass toasters?
>You can almost hear the IT Guys screaming in the distance when reading this post.
I assume you know how to set up a business VPN?
you dont work in IT, nor do you work for a real company. you might be a helpdesk phone monkey at best.
a real company could take care of mfa, and data labeling with an e5 license from o365. you must work for a shitshow.
is this the part where you pretend Windows 7 is a huge security risk?
Yeah because being in the office we stop writing shit down? Please, everyone is using VPN at home.
IT is screaming because they no longer can get paid $40 an hour to plug in HDMI cables
when we went full wfh we kept our helpdesk monkeys. their days just changed from plugging cords in to being on the phone to tell people how to plug cords in
ok john deere
someones also going to RAPE you if you try to repair your own electronics
>What is MFA
>What are company computers
You dont know what you're talking about. No company bigger than a fucking closet would ever send employees home to work on their own networks with personal computers. Everything is on a closed network with WFH
I'm pretty sure most companies make you agree as part of your contract that company policy is to keep shit on the company's closed network even working from home
I can because I'm in IT and my last company had the whole department quit when they tried to force us back to the office.
Just admit Mr. Middlemanagmentstein has trained you well like the drooling dog you are.
>why would we be happy about you taking sensitive/critical data and keeping it on your compromised ass toasters?
Pretty sure companies are supposed to lend the necessary tools to their employees. I have a laptop from my company that's made specifically for my job. A much better excuse would have been being worried about getting your shit stolen and having compromising data somewhere you don't know because some retard decided to rob an employee to resell the company's computer or phone.
Any company that's not retarded is gonna give you a cheap ass bulk ordered thin client that's locked down tighter than a nun's asshole and then have you do all your work on the company VPN in a HVD environment on their servers.
i dont even need to give you a hvd, all your traffic goes through cloudflare and you dont have rights to do anything besides open the apps that come with it. usb is also disabled :^)
>You can almost hear the IT Guys screaming in the distance when reading this post.
How have you never heard of a VPN
listen i just dont care about security, ok? i just dont
>on your compromised ass toasters?
You are aware that you (typically) don't use your own home PC for remote work, right?
I work in IT. We fucking LOVE WFH cause everyone in IT does it.
>network
Use a VPN.
>we
Because buildings are empty and that makes the billionaire renters seethe. So they throw money at publications to spin a narrative.
It's a disaster for the vidya industry because the workers making games were happier, and it's a disaster for the renting industry because they can't buy a new boat.
Based
Offices are fucking useless since the invention of fibre internet
I work for a big three corp real estate firm and they are so ridiculously butthurt over people telling companies to fuck off over RTO. We tried enacting the policy and the only people that followed it were the brokers (because every city is a broker office) who are the first group getting mass layoffs, and the 50% of the remainder who happened to live near their department/product team's original designated office from pre-pandemic. Remote and Hybrid are here to stay because having to recruit everyone locally within a 50 mile radius and getting the entire US at your fingertips is too addictive. What used to take almost a full year to recruit can be had in a matter of weeks now. It's complete fluidity of labor. People will only come back to office when they are a couple years in and ready to start fighting for a promotion. Which is why the big three all have lost 50-90% earnings year to year.
It works for some jobs and not others. People with real jobs and things to do work fine from home.
Junior developers that wear jeans to work and barely do anything without direct supervision obviously don't do anything. They might as well be working in a call centre as throwing assets together in unity.
>People with real jobs and things to do work fine from home.
the fucking cope here is unreal
How is this a cope?
unwarranted self importance
>i can do my job from home therefore it must be a real job
get back to the office or find another job
>>i can do my job from home therefore it must be a real job
Literally my logic. My boss has never been happier.
But he's right, you jobless zoomer.
wrong.
office job for the past 10 years and didn't opt for WFH.
your vacation is over.
office jobs
suck.
so do them from home
>so do them from home
sounds like someone who got reprimanded too much in the office and is hardcore coping
your vacation is over.
go back to the office or find another job.
close the office, no need to have them
no
you wasted your life in a cubicle
i wont
lmao dipshit retard
enjoy the rope when your existential crisis comes in about 5 years
So you're a moron and don't understand why people don't want to follow your moronic life path.
>retarded anon thinks WFH will be the next civil revolution
>is a 3 year fad
sorry you lost anon
get back to the office or lost your job
>wear jeans to work
you are an out of touch gigaboomer if you're complaining about retarded shit like this in the programming field
>Junior developers that wear jeans to work
You're in for a wild ride there old fella, wait until you see what they do with their hats!
>wear jeans to work
Lol wtf?! What's the problem?
There is no logistical, clerical, mathematical, social, or financial reason to not work-from-home. Your bosses are mad that you got a taste of not being spied on every waking fucking moment of your life, and they have to justify the entire middle-management caste existing.
Yeah employees not doing their job and fucking about at home is a sure fire way to run a company
Are you one of those "retards" I've heard so much about that think WFH doesn't have methods of making sure you're not dicking around? Needless to say if your actual productivity isn't suffering from working the same or fewer hours in a more comfortable environment then there's no reason at all to be angry about WFH. But I'm not talking to a reasonable person right now, I'm talking to a brown teenager from /int/ or some soulless Ganker LARPer that spends all day pretending he's a fat executive with a cigar and a pinky ring who "knows how it really is."
so why didnt companies and games just go under after covid and wfh?
if anything its probably helping employees work and have less stress
>its probably helping employees work and have less stress
All testing and surveying on work-from-home systems show they're massively improving work stress and cutting down on transportation costs for everyone involved. Problem there is it also means an empty office building, which means your company can't justify renting it out anymore which isn't actually your problem, but your company seems to really really believe they need an office building. The problem also gets bigger and bigger the higher up on the size and population scale you go, because American cities are in general designed for the "drive to Mr. Profitburg's office" model of employment; WFH de-facto renders the American city model completely pointless for a great many occupations that don't actually, specifically require you be physically present.
but... isnt not having to pay for office space a big save for the company?
then we can tear down offices and build more homes to help rent prices maybe
>isnt not having to pay for office space a big save for the company?
There isn't any rational thinking going on about the outrage behind these decisions, it's psychosis the deeper and deeper you go. They want to justify spying on you and tying up most of your day.
>then we can tear down offices and build more homes to help rent prices maybe
There's actually plenty of property to go around in the USA, it's a multi-pronged problem of
>it's hard to stop being homeless once you're homeless if you don't have anybody to crutch on for any length of time, and city politicians fucking HATE the homeless, to the point of making their cities look like a George Orwell novel full of spikes and nowhere to sit, stand, or get a drink of water in the name of pretending that homeless people don't exist
>AirBNB, apartment rentals, homeowner's associations, and other "get rich for no effort" housing schemes (New York City though has effectively outlawed AirBNB's predatory model very recently, it is no longer legal there to rent out your home or any part of it to more than 2 people and for a period of time where you are not present, which was the original intent of AirBNB that you'd rent out a room for a night or two to only one or two travelers or tourists)
>there is a fucking massive amount of money floating around the previous two points to both instate and maintain those schemes as status-quo
It's pretty obvious that the only people who want to cancel wfm are upper management suits with big investments in land ownership (i.e. the fucking millions they wasted on a shitty office building that they need to recoup their money on), boomers who like talking about inane bullshit because they're friendless and insufferable, and people who simply like to exert control over others by micromanaging them all the time.
glad i dont work for a retard company. we emptied all our offices permanently and closed half our remotes.
What you're seeing in that regard is the poisonous "infinite growth, forever" mindset prevalent in business drumming its fists against its thighs yelling "NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" at the thought of not reaching some idealized state where they're occupying a building, Valued Employees in it are doing Work, and they're in a very highly profitable position with doubled or tripled profits just around the corner. Worse, what they're doing is drumming its fists against its thighs at the thought of the whole mindset dying.
i read this twice and im not sure what youre actually saying as a reply to what i said
Which makes me wonder, has WFH ever taken foothold in Japan and their focus on corporate culture?
Square Enix has a WFH model set up for Final Fantasy XIV's development if I'm remembering right, they talked about it as a delay for the game's most recent expansion. I think Nintendo has something in that regard too but I can't say for certain.
Gamefreak employees said there is WFH there.
With how centralizing tokyo is, WFH was probably a massive help for Japan.
There was a bit of WFH in japan, although not nearly as much as the rest of the world. Most companies just outright closed until they get the first wave of vaxx out and then went back to work with everyone wearing masks. They recovered very quickly
> and their focus on corporate culture
What does that mean?
This board says gaming has gotten worse over the years and worse after the pandemic
Hmmmmm what a coincidence!
i really doubt things wouldve been somehow drastically different if the pandemic didnt happen
This board has been saying gaming has gotten worse since the boards creation.
How would I know that? I only came to this shit hole during the 2016 election.
Nobody expects you to. I'm merely educating you.
Its been the overwhelming consensus on the board that since at least Gen 7 that games have only gotten worse. I only caught the tail end of it when I started browsing in 2012. Most posters were complaining consoles were really outdated and underpowered or at least too much focus on fidelity instead of performance. That several genres like RPGs and FPS games were being watered down for console audience. EA really was shitting the bed with ME3 and DS3 at the time. Brown and bloom and blue + orange were the overwhelming majority of game aesthetics. Switching to PC master race was really the cool thing to do back then.
>Brown and bloom and blue + orange were the overwhelming majority of game aesthetics
Not just games, Ganker would endlessly slate that aesthetic too. Could be another reason anime exploded over the past decade.
It wasn't this bad before, back then there were still threads genuinely discussing current games
There still are now. And 8 years ago people were saying gaming is dying and gotten shittier in recent times and that the quality of discussion on Ganker has gotten worse
I've been on this board for going on nearly 13 years now (And I was considered a newfag back then and still a newfag now) and the discussion has never changed.
Its obviously referential to current topics and trends, and I'd say its more pol centric than b centric as it used to be, but then thats the entire world. Everything got more political since social media kicked off.
I have access to the Internet and MS Office at home. I do my job just fine. Maybe if your "job" is "management" it turns out the position is just a big piece of bullshit and doesn't need an 8 hour day.
I don't think any job actually NEEDS an eight-hour day and five-day workweek.
100%
really hope zoomers make 4 day work weeks a reality
>tfw zoomers fix the world boomers fucked up
If zoomers develop a spine and realize they have leverage with their work force they could re-create the good old times and get their way.
They're doing it in a big way lately, unions are pretty heavily on the rise through the whole nation. I think it was Amazon that got caught trying to have a board-room meeting laugh about a black guy "not being smart enough" to start a union, then he successfully unionized.
sounds like a moron-loving redditor fantasy
Unless you're some kind of essential personnel like Security, there's not many jobs that really should require this. But when you're some gay middle manager who's job is to oversee productivity, its easy to prove you're doing something by holding meetings and wasting everyone's time. When everyone's wfh and busy doing their shit without you interfering, its suddenly much harder to show your worth.
It does come down to proper prior planning, but people tends to forget not everyone works shitty fast food, retail, or office jobs. In actual manufacturing you have tangible quotas and only so many hours to reach them. It's either five days or ten hours shifts so pick your poison.
Factories can easily tag-team employees off into four-or-five hour shifts, problem there is they'd be hiring double the number of people and the whole idea is to squeeze blood from a stone.
Precisely, it'd be easily doable to have shorter shift patterns for the same pay but that would mean the top level bosses would have to sacrifice their bonuses and a bit of their salary.
>REEEEE WE ALREADY GAVE YOU A 4% RAISE, WHY AREN'T YOU PLEBS HAPPY THAT YOU MAKE JUST ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE
I think it was CNN? One of the major news networks recently had an interview with an auto exec, for some reason asking what she thought about the recent SAG-AFTRA strikes, and she basically answered that more pay wasn't felt as necessary if they can give vague benefits like "top level healthcare." It really does boil down to them not wanting to fucking pay people for the work done.
>she basically answered that more pay wasn't felt as necessary if they can give vague benefits like "top level healthcare"
Kek, the same line is trouted out in my place as the reason it is a better place to work than the competition.
And they'll piss and moan about how ungrateful you are if you want those benefits to include dental insurance, too.
I don't even know people manage to pull off strikes, I work for a small company with like 3 branches in total with ~100 people at my branch. Everyone gets treated and paid like shit but everyone is so whipped and scared about their job security that nothing will ever improve. Upper management just does their rounds whipping different departments cause doing 100% last month means not doing 110% the next month is shameful display and everyone in the other departments just ignore it cause it's not their their head getting egg that time.
Not my problem.
I can assure you that very little actually gets done in-office as well but you wouldn't know that. Stay in school.
you'd think after multiple decades of shows ragging on just how fucking pointless office work is and how much dicking around goes on in the office it'd be hard for even an epic Ganker troll to try and argue that suit-and-tie office work is a "real job"
Zoomers don't watch TV so they wouldn't know
They watch streamers watching TV so they should know.
This is the true big brain take honestly. I often do like a couple weeks in office as well as from home and honestly you spend as much time fucking around, drinking coffee and talking to people in office as you do playing vidya or drinking coffee at home.
I work better at home than at the shitty open plan office we have now because I can do whatever needs to be done when I want, while the office is inconvenient and noisy despite all of us needing to call clients and plan online meetings with them all the time, and commuting there is hell.
>all independent studies say that wfh improved productivity because people bang out all their work in 3 hours
>paid research says wfh bad because they finish their work and don't keep working after finishing the work even though they did what they usually do in an 8 hour day in 3 hours
>STUDIES SAY
>TRUST THE SCIENCE
Wow you really are retarded.
>he doesn't know that paid studies are why this is a meme in the first place
ah yes i remember my time in the office before the coof when id remote into my home computer for 4 hours to play wow.
As a hybrid wagecuck, my wfh days are a lot more productive.
>go to office
>have to 'small talk' with everyone all day
>shares office, have to listen to conversations from people not even on my team whose work has nothing to do with me
When I'm home is when things actually get done.
>champions WFH because of his own faults in the office
you are a cunt hair away from being fired and don't even realize it
>too retarded to buy headphones
Makes 0 sense to not have them work from home when you can just have them rotate collaboration meetings on a monthly basis and pocket the saved desk fees by downsizing to essentially a conference space. WFH also allows you to tell employees to shut the fuck up and work after hours and on the weekend if work comes in. People tell you to fuck off if they're commuting normally.
My company moved their HQ from a full campus to 4 floors in a skyscraper and saved like a million dollars on rent and maintenance per year and use the floors for management and meetings. They seem to be doing well.
Its over
>work from home
>games suddenly get worse
hmm
>suddenly
>I began to despise them
retroactively, after they worked from home they implemented horrendous updates to games developed in an office setting.
>pretending to be retarded
>reddit spacing
Doesn't deserve the (you).
I'm surprised by this. I'd expect companies WANT to save on travel expenses, but I guess tard wrangling your employees matters more.
because companies don't pay the travel expenses.
employees spend their own time commuting and their own money on cars and gas
there's no way I would change from remote to in person unless the company was gonna pay me for the extra hours per day I spent driving to the job, imagine losing 2 hours per day for 0 benefit
>because companies don't pay the travel expenses.
there's no way that's true, though. especially in fucking france.
>third world country
it's 100% true
It depends on the country, and the company within the country.
Japanese companies will pay you every penny it costs to get to work based on where you were living when they hired you. They see it as "We hired you in your current state to do a job, we will pay to make sure you can do that job".
British companies on the other hand, see it as "part and parcel" of working in "The exciting corporate environment" and expect you to pay your own way.
>there's no way I would change from remote to in person unless the company was gonna pay me for the extra hours per day I spent driving to the job, imagine losing 2 hours per day for 0 benefit
Benefit is I'm at my fucking home, anon.
middle manager types need to feel important.
>Megalomaniac managers after 3 days without being able to breath down wagie's neck
>No longer able to call them to work at 11 pm on a Saturday
>They are doing the same quality of work without them being there to scream at the wagies
Pic related, everything is all about managers losing their power, like reddit mods.
>everything is all about managers losing their power,
It absolutely is. Right now managers' job is to convince those higher than them they are needed. They provide zero tangible contribution to a company, and they are dead scared of everyone else realizing it. HR is in the same boat, they are so fucked if wfh becomes more and more popular.
Well that and half about real estate.
...how are you going to handle personnel without a HR department?
Bigger companies might still keep some HR around, but the numbers are massively bloated right now. The more we move to wfh, the more companies will realize HR is just expenses with no benefit.
HR is reddit of departments
more efficiently, for starters.
Personnel recruitment takes little to no effort now that they don't have to scour local jurisdiction and can just recruit from the entire 50 states. Also less in person interactions makes for less risks for them to manage. All HR does at this point is surf LinkedIn, copy paste onboarding materials, rubber stamp returns, and layoff people. And all of this at vastly decreased difficulty. 1 person can do the work of 10 at this point.
>the ceo of my company keeps including a vote to go back to the office in every meeting, the coo, cfo , etc all say no they think its a waste of time. His only excuse is he misses seeing people.
just sell the lease mother fucker no one is coming back
Not for me.
I can work on my laptop while having a game running on my normal setup next to me. I'm playing more games than usual.
>what're you wearing?
>uhhh khakis ?
JUST GET BACK TO THE FUCKING OFFICE GOY
>mfw CNC machinist
Must be nice to work from home or to entertain ideas of four day work weeks.
I have been wfh for 4 years now. Never missed a deadline. I ain't gonna take traffic to work. Fire me, i don't care.
In a chain style setup where one position/department's work leads into the next one's down the line, remote work drastically increased time between communications and responses which leads to a lot more problems popping up. Someone misses a memo about a bugfix and suddenly someone two floors down in implementation is having an aneurysm.
literally zero people in here have mentioned the primary reason boomer management demands people return to the office
most office building leases are 3-5 years, with 3 being the absolute minimum, and some go up to 10 years
why do they sign crazy leases, you ask? they get tax breaks for having occupied office buildings in designated "business center" areas. cities give benefits like these to companies because their employees eat out nearby and otherwise utilize services that bring money into the economy of the city.
well, a huge number of those leases got signed in 2019 or early 2020, so they got completely fucked and stuck in them during COVID
it is likely better to have no office vs. the tax breaks, but if the office MUST be there, they want to get those tax breaks, so you, mr. wagie, must return to the office
until the lease expires anyway
>we need workers to return to the office to increase productivity....until October 2024..
>until October 2024..
So that's it huh? Well its been a good run I suppose.
This is literally it. Its all about leases, office space and building rental. There's a reason all the upper echelons of companies (And even then, only the UPPER upper echelons) want a return to the office and everyone else doesn't. Because they profit from it and it costs everyone else.
Its also about division between workers who have to do their work in the office or a physical place and being envious of those who work from home.
literally every single remote workers posts about how they do 1 hour of work at most every day while playing videogames/living their lives. What a fucking shock companies want people to get the fuck back to the office.
Maybe if you cunts kept your mouths shut you wouldn't be in this situation
how do these remote workers not get fired right away if they are that much less productive compared to back when they were in office?
maybe all the work they have to do really can get completed in a short amount of time, ever think of that??
You want me to brag about doing my daily boring work during work hours? Offcourse the ones who slack are the ones either flexing or straight lying.
Most jobs are fake and companies pay you to be available. If you do not understand this you're unironically NGMI. I did maybe 2-3 hours of work most days a week when I was IN office, nothing fundamentally changed when we were REMOTE from office.
>t. former employee of an F500 marketing department
>marketing
have a nice day
you do nothing but suck the joy out of every good thing
have a nice day immediately. it is the only way to save your soul. have a nice day have a nice day have a nice day
unironically, completely sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, have a nice day.
At this point I'd rather go on welfare than go back to an office. I've made it clear to my boss that if going in to the office becomes mandatory, I'm quitting.
Ubisoft was outsourcing coding & engine work to India for years.
Suddenly though "work-from-home" is a problem because the Canadians realized how utterly pointless having to spend hours every day commuting to a cubiclefarm is when you're just talking to Rajesh via emails regardless of your location.
You do have a point. If work from home is not possible then your company cannot outsource.
Mandella Effect
is it Shecklestein
or is it Shecklestien
wfh whiners are unironically what the globalist talk about when they spout off about useless eaters.
There's some big gay meeting on Thursday at work and I have a feeling they're going to tell everyone to come back in.
I was remote before the pandemic and I was hired back after a brief 'rona furlough as full time remote so I'm going to quit if they do.
Plenty of title companies still offering remote work out there because there's hardly anyone who is in this industry.
I found a job in another city that I can't commute to so if shit like this happens I won't have to come back.
Of course there's a risk of getting fired, but I have a lot of experience so I just don't give a fuck.
If they want me to leave my multi monitor widescreen set up in a job where I have to review digital documents all day to go back to their shitty PCs and tiny screens and bad posture chairs they're dreaming.
And I've been with the company 12 years but I've leave in a heartbeat.
same but i wouldnt even leave, id say see you there and never go in
Everytime i hear news about ending wfh is some north american company or canada. Is this really happening worldwide?
Huge companies that are already floundering are the ones doing it.
you guys are just scratching the real reason. failing companies bring back offices to just get people to quit and lower headcount without severance and benefits
Well done, you just lost your senior workforce. You know, the guys who aren't afraid to leave.
ah amazon and google dont care, they got people lining up by the hour
I don't know about that. Seniors are the ones least likely to move because they have it made for themselves. Any other place and they're new again.
thats not really how staff/principal roles work
they just get hired for a senior position right out the gate and probably have higher pay to boot
WFH is pandoras box. Once it was opened its not going anywhere.
t. Bonglandian and every time I go for a job interview whether its WFH or not is brought up BY the employer in sense of
>Positive: "You'll be pleased to know we offer flexible working solutions - you're able to WFH multiple days a week"
Or
>Negative: "Now... this position ISNT WFH... its entirely office based... how do you feel about that?" (They are visibly worried and must see people back out at this stage to have this reaction)
so many envious people
sorry neets and dead end job anons
but we IT guys get to earn 6 figures, work from home and barely do any actual work hours
too late for you now, should have been born smart
The chad wfh.
The seething commuter.
Remote working has been a disaster, because it shows flaws in incompetent middle management. If manager doesnt know how to manage (ie set reasonable goals and oversee work completion), he cannot demand more from workers-at-home, whereas they'll do at least something in office environment due to peer pressure.
Companies with incompetent management dip hard if they allow work at home. If you can force them back to office, you can keep on "making progress", ie middle management says "get this barely-defined shit done" and leave the workload management to workers.
T. Middle manager in a company where nearly everyone works at home
WFH is only good if you want to fool around.
Work quality takes a nose dive when there is no face to face communication with team members.
I say this as someone who has worked from home for over a year during covid.
>inb4 triggered neets and lazy losers doing a dead end job
Your days are numbered, middle manager kun.
> middle manager kun.
they'll always exist because most people cannot be trusted to not fuck around and put in bare minimum, if that
People like you?
maybe
if your workplace is american psycho i can see why WFH would be a problem
>Work quality takes a nose dive when there is no face to face communication with team members.
look at this useless middle management parasite. Hey retard, if I need to review a Beneficiary Note from a mortage to make sure the dipshit originator of the loan signed the endorsement in a state where note possession can force a foreclosure to go judicial, what "communication" do I need with someone else?
you fucking retard
Cope harder gay.
The only reason you lazy fucks want wfh so bad is because you want to be lazy and do pajeet-tier bare minimum without accountability. You will get your ass back to office, and you will do your job properly. This is inevitable. WFH just doesn't work and no amount of cope can prove otherwise.
except I do
I can
and I will continue to do so at my job, because I don't have to go back ever.
You will lose your job. You are useless. You provide nothing of substance to your company.
You're going to be cut like Lumburgh by the Bobs in Office Space
LOL
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>and I will continue to do so at my job, because I don't have to go back ever.
NTA but you will lose your job eventually. i can say this with certainty because every fucking loser with this level of arrogance that i've been around has been fired and had to take a MASSIVE step back in QoL because they can't get the same job after being shitkicked.
you're a child in a man's game and it shows.
Junior, I've been with my company longer than you've had dropped balls and I've been remote for much much longer than 3 years.
You're a fucking idiot who is scared shitless his useless role is at an end.
>Junior
arrogance confirmed.
Yes, because I'm better, stronger, older, more virile, richer, and more handsome than you.
Also what a fucking WASTE of digits, holy shit.
Gotem
I give you until 2024 tops until you are either forced to get your ass back to office or get fired and replaced by pajeets.
You idiots never see the big picture. ALL remote jobs will eventually be outsourced to India. It's just a matter of time.
FHA and other similar government loans are LITERALLY not able to be serviced by foreign people you fucking
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
You don't know what I do, where I do it, or whom I do it for.
you're seething so bad, and all the shit you're inventing in your head to 'own' me is just not sticking
KEK
>You will get your ass back to office, and you will do your job properly.
No I won't. I quit and went somewhere that hired me as full remote for more pay. Last I heard my old company is struggling hard because we were already having trouble hiring and then they tried to bring everyone back because the CEO of Chase said
>wfh bad
in an article. KEK
god you are fucking dumb.
>no argument
Your days are numbered, leech.
>the banker calling others leeches
L M A O
>anti-banker
>anti-WFH
Pick one.
Can you believe this is all because they want to sell expensive coffee?
Hybrid systems are the best solution. Like in a 5-day work week you could have 3 or 4 homeoffice days and 1 or 2 in-office days, that way you can ensure still a minimum amount of personal contact between collegues while also still taking full advantage of the homeoffice model.
you can hybrid deez nuts
hybrid my dick in your mouth you useless nerd
>enforce hybrid system
>make both sides mad at you
Here where I work we just choose if we go or not. I pretty much go once a month just to meet some friends.
That works too, but I really think there should at least be a periodic mandatory meet-up in person. Once a month as you do would be the bare minimum.
>there should at least be a periodic mandatory meet-up in person. Once a month
No. Fuck man stop this boomer mentality. We don't need to do a firm hand shake to work together. There should be an objective and practical reason to meet in person. Not some vague idea based on your feelings of what work should be.
>g-guys it's j-just 1 or 2 days a week please come back
suck my nuts fag
We have that at my job but can't choose the days that are more convenient, our manager decided to let me wfh every wednesdays and thursdays and she forgot to ask me again now that a bunch of people who had the days I wanted left so I'm still stuck with going to the office every friday. And she decided to force us to come to the office all at the same time two days every month to make thing even more stupid.
Its not an issue with remote work, its brain drain from the industry and a focus on shit that does not make video games good.
Great example of this, games that have stood the test of time, and were made because the teams wanted it, loved it, and knew others would, Fallout 1, 2, System shock, baulders gate 1 and 2, neverwinter nights, ect ect.
Modern game industry is to fucking focused on turning entertainment into a money printing machine and focues on pointless shit like graphics, player retention metrics, diversity quota bullshit, and retarded amounts of in game cut scenes and bullshit.
The industry has gotten to big, its filled with bullshit pointless middle management like positions that suck up more time and resources then ever and result in half finished garbage by people who are unskilled.
i work in games on the art side. I do think WFH isnt the best for overall production. Constantly waiting to hear back from people who might not even be, "in office" today. I have to wait insane amount of hours before i get answers from people. Meanwhile when I was in the office I literally could just walk up to them. I believe Hybrid is the perfect setup. Plus if you arent a complete shut in, you grow actual strong relationships/friends.
I'm a normie. Sorry gays.
>you grow actual strong relationships/friends
>at work
this moron is like 22 tops
LOL
32 but I made longterm friendships from working in a office. I feel bad for anyone entering the industry right now at a young age. I benefited from networking in my younger years.
They don't. You will get a morning meeting, but after 3pm good luck getting answers. Meanwhile you have other departments waiting for you to finish something, yet the 3 major lever designers are all idle, and you don't get vital answer you you need till 6:30 at night. Shit, now I need to work till midnight so I have proper adjustments shown in the next morning meeting.
your job sounds like it fucking sucks i dont know what to tell you, works on my machine
your management sounds incompetent as fuck. From business open to business close I am expected to be in my chair and ready to handle shit. If I need a moment here or there, no big deal, but going afk for 30-40 minutes?
That's a your company problem
building rapport with your coworkers and higher-ups is very beneficial. you sound like a retarded child who hasn't anything worked in anything above service.
>building rapport with your coworkers and higher-ups is very beneficial
LOL
you already just KNOW which office stereotype he is
If you wanted to play discount politics or ride a carousal I could see it being beneficial.
he's clearly a boss knob polisher. He can't deep throat that 4 incher from home, which is why he's seething. He knows that if he doesn't powder Mr. Johnson's balls juuust right that his job is in danger.
You say that like people who WFH don't just work their regular schedule
>You will get a morning meeting, but after 3pm good luck getting answers.
I WFH and don't have this problem. Maybe they just don't like you.
so you work with a bunch of people who took second jobs
no, its like this at all WFH game studios. Especially triple A. You can just hide from the sheer numbers, and someone else will pick up the slack.
Lots of indies were made by industry professionals who quit their jobs together to work on a game. If they worked from home, that probably would have never happened.
I would never trust my employees to work from home if I were Ubisoft. You just know they are playing games the entire time instead of actually working. WFH has been a disaster to the video game industry.
Bot post.
>playing games the entire time instead of actually working
As opposed to fucking around on their phones and loitering in the break room instead of actually working.
It's insane to read all of these propaganda posts about Ubisoft, Actiblizz, and other AAA studios who haven't produced anything of value in over a decade. As if there's a recent decline and WFH is to blame rather than these AAA studios universally being awful at what they do and being terrible places to work no matter how you have it.
Generally speaking, they employ bots to endlessly spam pro-company PR in order to lessen public outcry. Virtually everyone knows that these firms are horrible places to work with a bored management team watching your every move. Other uses for bots include spamming 'subtle' advertising in which 'one of the guys' tells you that things aren't so bad, creating false consensus for elections on both the political and the corporate front, and trying to bait the opposition into circular arguments... Or just bombard the opposing party with spam.
I remember being blown away when my professor showed how much of the internet revolved around selling you a product in 2012. Now it's even worse. Way worse, as the Internet went from ten-big corporations (things were bad even back then) to just four. Look at the five-star Glass Door ratings for Walmart or the 'positive' reviews for complete pieces of shit like the new Star Wars game.
>t. Advertising guy
Speaking of advertising there is a new incentive being pushed to bypass or outright remove adblockers as a concept. I'd imagine you would see a lot more traffic once these measures start getting pushed into becoming mandatory. The internet has practically destroyed most forms of boomer media and they are making strides to occupy this space as their old demographic of boomers are counting their days towards the grave.
YOU WILL GO BACK INTO THE OFFICE LOSER
i cant, we closed our offices and told everyone wfh is permanent
>french canadians forced to work
this is the worst thing that has ever happened on 9/11
i dont even have a manager anymore
It has been a blessing, it easily separates the weak from the strong.
Many Studios realeased ass games since COVID and other created great shit, it just filters the retards.
ive had 2 jobs both of them remote i will never goto and office and i will never spend 2 hours commuting
Im convinced that people who bitch about work from home, either have never had a work from home job, or work in an industry where they are only open 9-5 mon-fri
Let me tell you anon, i have been working from home now since 2020, and yeah, i wont lie its got its up but its not all its cracked up to be.
I tell people this when it comes to WFH:
>The best thing about WFH is you can wake up at 7am, roll outta bed in your underware or naked, and be at the office.
>The worst thing about WFH is you can wake up at 7am, roll outta bed in your underware or naked, and be at the office.
There is no such thing as 'no office hours.' when you work in a 24/7 industry. Even in a 9-5 industry the reality is, you are usually fielding calls between 7AM to 6PM. On top of that, you cant just 'leave it at the office.' because the office is your home as well.
The idea of say, sick days? Yeah they dont really exist, because unless you are bedridden you still kinda have to get work done.
The notion that "Oh man well i work from home so i can do xyz while im at home." Does not actually work that way.
On top of that it DOES require more discipline to get shit done.
Work from home is great, but not everyone can do it, and the majority of people who bitch about it either have never done it, realize that they have a pointless position, or are middle management/HR and need to justify their job some how.
>you cant just 'leave it at the office.'
youre a fucking cuck man, use your time and turn your computer off when its quitting time.
you sound like youd sit in an office "getting work done" past 6 to look like a goodboy.
wfh isnt the issue, you are.
>Missed the part about 24/7 industry.
Does not work that way anon, not in every industry.
I wont give specifics, but for example, my company we work 24/7 365 days a year servicing customers and guests. In a highly HIGHLY regulated industry across the entire US, which literal mountains of legal paperwork, and license and regulations. There is no OFF, for some industries, there is only "Ok, you get to field this bullshit for the week" situations and even then, some time a person who is on call for things like that, cant even even handle it all and some one else has to pick it up.
WFH is not all its cracked up to be.
If i worked in an industry like fucking developing video games? Yeah you bet your ass, 5PM hits Computer goes off.
But when you are dealing in an industry where a VP has to page out to you because some one is upset they can spend literally millions of dollars, you dont get to say, "Yeah ill do it on Monday." The pay makes up for that, and being able to work from home is part of that benefit.
right so wfh isnt the issue, its your industry.
sounds like a skill issue
Its not really a skill issue, its a matter of what industry you are in.
Some industries you can turn it off at 5PM sharp, others you cant.
For example, i know a buddy of mine he works in an office, 9-5, 30 min commute each way, works hard, but once 5 hits he is done.
I work like 7am to 6PM every day of the week, but the thing is, during that time i can do shit like play video games if its a slow day, or catch up on reading or take a workout break, but then there are days i just work all weekend.
Everyone puts in their time one way or another. WFH works for some industies, does not for others.
Yes exactly, thats what i have been saying, WFH works for some industries, it does not for others.
IMO i think if you work a job that the expectation is "We have a dead line to get this done, in these many hours." Like say video games.
THe workers are much better off working from the office not from home. The reason is because if you have office hours 9-5 that means what SHOULD be happening is thats how timeing and budgitting is planned at that point, with the idea that "OK my workers are goign to be here for these hours, this is how much work we can get done in these hours."
If you do work from home, weather or not people will admit it, there will be an expectation to work well past 8 hours a day if it means you can get the project done faster.
WFH can fuck you over if you work to hard is the issue.
But if you look at an industry where its a 24/7 industry, WFH works great because its allows you to be more fluid, "Oh i did not actually do a lot of work between 9-5 but im getting hammered with issues at 7PM.
Vs if you tried that in an office your employee has to sit there from 9-5 in the office basically trying to find shit to do, then get blasted with MORE work at 7pm on top of that, which results in burning out your employees.
i dont know why youre being so cagey about your industry, its either energy or utilities
Its neither, because i dont like to talk about my job specifics randomly on the internet.
Just all ill say is its a 24/7 operation across the US.
aerospace!
All of your issues with WFH are completely personal you retard. Set boundaries. I work in a high pressure job too and am sometimes asked to be on at odd hours, the difference between you and me is I set boundaries and expectations and do not make myself available constantly
There's no real reason why everyone has to have a 9-5 job in an office when real work can be done within a few hours thanks to the computer revolution. Until they increase pay where it falls inline with inflation or they cut off work hours but still pay the same, this charade is going to continue. WFH is the best compromise right now for this bullshit system and until something major changes, it shall be for the norm for the foreseeable future.
Most people I met that didn't like WFH were boomers who hated staying in his house with his wife or kids, most of them didn't even knew what to do with more free time (cause you don't need to commute), the only relevant things in their life is literally work, they start going crazy if they aren't living to work, it's like they need to keep their brain busy with work or they start realizing their lives sucks ass.
a bunch of normies i know hate it they need to spend all day socializing or go insane
that's who is going to our offices still; people who need to get away from their spouse or kids, and old people
>my company sold three of our offices
>kept one
>I was hired as full perma remote pre pandemic
>IT actually just mailed me my physical work tower since the VPN to the station at the office wasn't allowed anymore
feels good to be going anywhere any time soon baby
Do all of you gays have some bullshit computer job where you can be easily replaced by any pajeet?
I work with human tissue for R&D and there is no option for WFH. I also get paid over 150k a year.
you realize you can easily be replaced by Pajneesh too right?
>he thinks he's safe
HAHAHAHA
I can't because all of my bosses are white. Pajeets only get into work here in America because they were hired by another Pajeet
>Pajeets only get into work here in America because they were hired by another Pajeet
HAHAHAH HE'S FUCKING CLUELESS HAHAHAHA
I have literally 0 pajeets working here. I'll be fine. We don't even consider them for work.
any day now right
and sooner than he thinks with how many 'med students' India churns out
been waiting since the 90s for this get replaced by rajesh wave
No, I help operate a power plant for a major city and I make about the same as you.
118k/year, web dev for proprietary auto dealership software.
Not a publicly-traded company so pajeets aren't a concern. Exporting duties to India is exclusively a decision made by corner-cutting corpos. It's also something they tried during the financial crisis in 2010 and it was catastrophic enough for multiple VPs to get replaced.
Though even if it was, I'm in a senior position so my job would only shift from development to fixing bloated and non-functional modules from third-parties.
I'm a software developer so maybe if they manage to produce good code one day. We can barely find new people to hire so no one is getting fired anytime soon.
>working as a recruiter
>bunch of foreign coworkers get hired at the same time as me because the company got a new huge client and they were all available
>suddenly several of them get issues with their work permit, can't work until they renew it but the nearest possible date to get an appointment for that is 3/4 months after the work permits expire
>stuck doing my job and theirs
>they eventually come back and fuck off again because they don't like the job anyway
>client ask us to recruit even more, another team in another country in our continent helps us permanently
>they won't stop fucking up because of tiny little cultural differences, because they don't know subtilties in our labor laws which are irrelevant for them but super obvious for anyone in HR in my country, we all have to correct them all the time
>turns out the point of this shit was to make that team abroad take all our work because they're cheaper but instead they promoted me and another girl which is more expensive and the company is super stingy so that says a lot about the situation
No I'm not getting replaced anytime soon. If I'm ever replaced I'll collect unemployment benefits for some time, relax and look for work somewhere else at my own pace.
It exposed just how little managers are needed
It's funny to see gays threatened by indians that they have them squatting and shitting on their minds rent free to screech about them in every single thread on Ganker.
It's only fair when you're constantly bitching about white people.
Im not a shitskin. I hate indians. I hate thinking about them. I hate seeing them. The fact that Ganker has been ramping up unironic indian posting is causing me to leave this board for the first time in 10 years.
It's their new excuse for being talentless hacks that can't manage a fucking water stand in the Sahara.
There's only three people who hate WFH:
Helicopter managers who can only get erect when they micromanage other people's lives
Parasitic corporate landlords who have lost tons of money because nobody needs office space anymore
Friendless losers who can only get social interaction at work
>Friendless losers who can only get social interaction at work
You sound like the dude at the office who eats alone :3
>Friendless losers who can only get social interaction at work
I don't think I've spoken a word all weekend and won't until I go to the office tomorrow, I love remote work.
>hardly anyone seems happy
ubimtl employee here, this is an outright lie, the only people unhappy are the habitual neurotic gays crying and replying to each other in the comment section of our internal news page, the vast majority are at worst annoyed a bit by it but recognize that even if wfh has it's advantages for individuals, it has affected production negatively as a whole, most people are fine with going back.
>industry sucked pre-pandemic
>industry still sucks post-pandemic
uh
>middle management wants power of the wagies
>upper management own the office buildings and are stuck in the leases of buildings now that hold zero value
>lower management are lapdog yeswomen and pajeets
They want the office jobs to go back to the office because otherwise the managers are shown to be completely worthless money sinks (not that the office jobs themselves aren't worthless bullshit shuffling money around) and the 'economy' crashes because 90% of it is finance, media, and service industry crap.
God I wish the world was back to peak pandemic. I miss being able to drive around with no one on the road. Going to work was great it was just me and a few other people bullshitting all day.
>Sunday night
>deadend jobs and middle managers already seething
Good luck with traffic tomorrow gays!
not a single great game was made in a wfh environment
Elden Ring was finished during the pandemic. Some even relate it's success with the pandemic itself.
We don't talk about that game here.
I wash dishes for $15.30/hr. and I'm relatively happy with it.
Based dish pit troll, was a good job in uni. Just wash, listen to tunes, and chill.
remember when Ubi Montreal was good? my goodness that was so very very long ago. They may as well have closed their doors being out of the office for three years.
>Ubi Montreal was good?
no
The CEOs get mad about remote working because it drives down real estate prices when people aren't forced to live in the city, or near it, for work. And they own a lot of property. It also damages the service industries nearby, like coffee shops, restaurants, etc.
Really, getting rid of remote work is better for the economy.
If you can work remotely that means your job can be done by Indians for peanuts. Everyone thinks they're above it and too important for it to ever happen to them, that's literally what every person that worked at home then fired thinks.
but I AM the indian who took your WFH job
There's always another redeemer, sir.
indians are basically retarded, outsourcing to them is always a disaster
The issue is that bosses don't have people they can micromanage. Every manager who hated work from home loved to control their workers.
been working from home for 3 years now and gas costs now about twice as much as it did 3 years ago
so the only way Im ever going back to office is if I get a fat raise and we all know its not going to happen
lol remember all the articles two years ago that said that WFH was improving productivity?
I wonder what changed, hmmmm
Have you seen the state of video game development in the last 3 years. Everything launches in a broken state. Work from home is utterly inefficient, people only like it because it lets them get away with being lazy.
>Work from home is utterly inefficient,
This has been disproven.
Whether or not someone is against WFH is the ultimate taste of just how deep the their throat takes dick.
>Have you seen the state of video game development in the last 3 years. Everything launches in a broken state.
Have you seen the last 8 years of gaming?
all the managers arent able to pretend they do anything anymore
I've been on wfh since covid.
I will unequivocally admit I have basically gotten paid to be a neet since then. I don't think I've gotten up before 10am more than a dozen times. It's so bad even I feel guilty, but as long as the (extremely little) work I have is done, I keep getting paid.
Got a raise this year too.
Literally the only reason work from home is being canceled is that managers were shitting themselves over not being able to control people for 8 hours a day. Iirc productivity rose almost across the board during WFH
>seething this hard because you have to spend 20 minutes every week day commuting
I think just about every vidya company proved WFH doesn't work for video game development, every game made under it has been fucked worse than usual
It's literally middle manager cope. People without marketable talent, skills, or experience want to keep their managing jobs that let them feel like they're contributing without doing anything but negatively affecting the work flow of people who are actually contributing.
Deep down they all know this, which is why 99% of them are raging gays.
When employees manage themselves, middle managers can no longer pretend to be useful.
The higher ups and middle managers are always on the same team so they will always protect each other against the rank-and-file workers.
it's funny that the real winner during the pandemic were the crypto investors who took advantage of the bubble
>you need to be mad about returning to work because i and many others are mad about returning to work
gonna go in, do my job then go home. you chapo gays can die on the street for all i care.
enjoy your commute
>chapogay calling others bootlickers
classic chapo rage
I like my work and the people I work with. Drive is only 15 minutes from my place. It gets me out of the house which is great. You must really hate your work if you don't like spending time there and rather be in the house all day