>replaces beautiful pre-rendered backgrounds that were painstakingly detailed for every location in the game with cookie-cutter 3D assets that remove all the soul and identity from a game
>we brought your favorite game into the modern era, bro, don't thank us, just buy it!
I fricking hate Square Enix so much guys.
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nothing about star ocean 2 looked "beautiful", it was pixel soup even for the times
shut the frick up, homosexual.
kys
We're not on twitter, you can type have a nice day, homosexual.
you are subhuman
I am insanely nostalgic for the 2000s moeblob design I don't care if its trash
that's fine. a lot of zoomers are like that. it makes sense.
The portraits are a massive improvement though, this is just irrefutable.
definitely not with you on that.
>irrefutable
good thing i don't care about "refuting" it
>i don't care about "refuting" it
So this is just the usual case of "old good, new bad"? Got it.
not really
neither of the updated portraits manage to capture rena's confident, tomboyish and playful side quite as well as that smirk on the original does
probably because any anime artist after the year 2000 lost the ability to see anime girls are anything but moeblobs.
Over their first rerelease maybe.
The new ones are the same cheap filtered up korean ones every no budget dungeon crawler has.
It's not possible to see it on the OP image, but the clearest distinction of quality is the badge on Claude's jacket. In the original you can fully read the engrish in it Crawd C. Kenny but the new one is gibberish. 2008 doesn't even have any letters in it, I think.
I like left the best. On one hand, I think it's the simplicity of the clothing designs while still having detailed artwork. On the other, the faces on the right seem very awkward, maybe uncanny valley-ish? They both have soulless eyes, making the guy's smile seem tense like he's cringing at something, while the girl, I dunno. I guess the artist was going for "awe", but it doesn't really convey anything.
This is coming from someone that didn't play any of these games.
No. Star Ocean 2's story feels like a 90s anime so it should look like one as well, the original portraits are still the best.
I’m pleasantly surprised with the new portraits. Not that the old ones were bad, they represent the usual style at the time.
i like the new portraits more than the 2008 ones but i don't like the style in general. it's the locations i'm annoyed with.
like at least include the goddamn original game with the remake. I'm tired of emulating it and want cloud saves. I don't want to take my ps1 out and use a tv. i use a computer. but no. they can't do that.
don't even try OP. its always the same shills.
im convinced its the same people who praise the latest game of a franchise and say the old ones are bad.
couple months after release they disappear.
this looks just horrible.
its so ironic because years ago people said robots won't be able to replicate the soul in art and entertainment like humans.
but right now it seems its the best bet.
even if old teams come together again its always this souless bullshit. everything is just going to shit and the people with it.
i hope in the future we can feed a full game to the ai which can make a proper remake or sequel thats soulfull.
>muh soul
>muh soulless
you've never played the game you meme spouting Black person
the new one looks okay like it could look like dragon quest xi or octopath which i'd be REALLY annoyed just fricking include the original with it.
The 3d graphics look plastic. It's something that I notice in a bunch of 3d unity games. Other than that, I don't mind the remake's looks.
It could look a lot worse. They've done much worse, but it would have taken no fricking effort to just let you pick which version of the game you want to play in a splash at the start-up. shit, even include the 2008 one in there. They fricking could have had the foresight or given a shit to do that, but no. I just want comfy Star Ocean 2 on Steam Deck and PC with cloud saving.
I hate 2.5HD or whatever it's branded now so fricking much.
The bloom looks awful. The DoF looks awful. The mismatch between background and pixel art is too severe.
Octopath Traveller was a mistake.
You can disable bloom in-game.
The one in the middle looks best.
2008 was garbage
>People complaining about the 3D environments
>But no one talking about the sheer combat improvements like how spells no longer long pause the game, or how having 12+ characters is no longer bad because you can have the bench warmers now do assist attacks and contribute to battles
>Along with more ways to bend crafting over your knee and get the results you want faster/easier with less save scumming
Frick, secondaries, so god damn much. Don't even respond if you can't even recall what this is and how to go about getting it in the first place you fricking graphics homosexuals.
its not a secondary thing, its just nostalgia clouding any sort of reasonable judgement
I'm not going to complain about literally everything in my OP, just my biggest issue, but yes other things too
Wait, who the frick is that? I don’t remember anyone named Nemo in the original game.
>He didn't find Nemo.
good changes do not make up for bad changes anon, bad things are almost always more weighty than good things, you would need 3-5+ legitimately good things to make up for a single bad thing every time
Here's the only complaint about the game
>i don't like how it looks
Here's the list of all improvements
>added fishing
>bench characters can assist and are now part of the game all the time
>bonus system added
>formations which were worthless before actually matter now because of bonus system
>remove spell pause
>big spells still retain cutscenes but they take half the time
>if you don't want to watch the cutscene you can skip
>if you don't want to see the portraits you can disable them
>if you want the old portraits it's in the game
>if you want the old music it's in the game
>if you want the old VA's it's in the game
>upgrading skill proficiency is better now
>can go to PA mode inside a town
>PA markers so you don't have to use a guide or miss them
>fast travel so you don't spend hours going back and forth from towns to get a PA
>random encounters gone
>advantage/disadvantage encounter
>chain battles
>blindsides
>stagger is kinda meh on its own but not as bad due to chain break and bonus system
>characters talk now while you're exploring
>you actually see your party members exploring with you now
>added gathering and unique spots
>added raid enemies in overworld
>item creatiom improved
>weapon/equipment factors added
>FP/RP points now visible
>cutscenes are now more dynamic because of the 3D environment and camera angle, you literally have to run while kurik is getting destroyed
The remake makes the original obsolete. Denying this because you don't personally like how it looks is delusional.
You forgot
>Censorship
No use trying to lie. It's Squeenix. We know they're going to put censorship in some way. Probably change dialogues to "reflect modern vaule"
So the only criticisms for the remake are
>i don't like it
>i-it's censored bro i swear i have no proof but i need to seethe
Jesus Christ
Those all require actually playing the demo to know. The average Ganker morons just looks at images and that's it.
I doubt the doomposter has even played the original to figure out which are improvements and not in the original.
SOVL obsessed mutts only interact with games through webms and screenshots, you might as well be talking to a dog about gameplay
How different is the PSP remake from the original?
Not that different, it's more of a port than a remake. The main differences are the 3d model for items are removed, an anime intro, shitty portrait replacements, and they added a 3 hit combo for melees which made spellcasters even more useless because of that and spell pause. Literally everyone just picks 4 melees and ignore the spellcasters in the game.
Ty anon who actually plays and cares about vidya.
@652235413
>good thing i don't care about "refuting" it
Yeah, because you're just another shithead that only thrives on outrage culture.
middle > left > right
if this was a hentai game
is there any other proof that star ocean 2 was the best star ocean game?
3 is the best one.
I still have my original copy, a crt, and a ps1 🙂
feels good man
So we're going to have homosexuals who never played SO2 pretend they played it?
All the older portraits are in the game. What a moronic fricking thread. Also what kind of a dumbfrick would beg to pay for another port of the PS1/PSP game? Just keep emulating it moron and ignore the superior version instead of seething like a dilating troony.
yeah, except i wasn't talking about the portraits in my post, and was talking about the locations
So why remake this one? Is this star ocean 2? Why didn't they remake the first one instead. Also. Is this the series that turned into the tales of series. I remember it was this or star ocean..
The first game already had a remake and available to all platforms.
Because Star Ocean 2 is the best one.
Played the demo and I thought it looked really nice. What got me was the game never shutting the frick up.
The new portaits look like AI slop
>RPG about space adventure
>majority of games always take place on shitty looking backwater planets
Star Ocean sucks. Fricking waste of an idea.
Make a remake that completely overhauls everything
>we hate SQE
Make a 1 for 1 remake with only upgraded graphics and QoL changes
>we hate SQE
Its as if people just hate with no regard
>Make a remake that completely overhauls everything
>frick it up, lose the soul, lose the detail, don't know what you're doing
>Make a 1 for 1 remake with only upgraded graphics and QoL changes
>frick it up, lose the soul, lose the detail, lose the colour, just don't know what you're doing
Almost like they're the same fricking outcome moron. Upgraded graphics means replicating everything EXACTLY as it was, colour, texture, layout, lighting, everything, simply in higher fidelity. if you are not maintaining the atmosphere and design, you've failed already and aren't doing a "1 for 1 remake" you're doing a 1 for 1 half assed job and wow big surprise people don't really appreciate that.
nope, its called a remake, if you want the exact replica go play the older game homosexual, the new one looks good
>the new one looks good
no, it doesn't which is the entire problem, it looks like cheap shit and is the laziest possible modern game dev where they just let their engine automatically handle lighting and shadows and don't understand colour palettes or contrast, vs the original looking good because it was all designed and done manually, by a person with a fricking vision instead of trying to shit out the least work possible
>m-muh soul
Just say you don't like new thing and move on.
You sound like you have an exact image in your head, tailor made for your specific needs, which you want brought to life, anything less is unacceptable. Buy SQE and command them to bring it to life.
>complaining about a REMAKE
just play the old one. Jesus Christ I hate remake complainers.
Removing all the skills after 2 was a mistake.
>Training your skill with a kitchen knife is the source of ultimate power
Not gonna pay for this trash with that kind of ethic depo artwork. Bring back Koio Minato and his amazing pseudo-H.
Me too anon.
For all your complaints about the 3d environments, they're still better than the shit pixel art models they made that are worse than every other version of the game despite having the advantage of more money and more technology to work with.
Middle looks like the most generic, sloppiest animu shit ever.
Will you still be able to savescum to make that ridiculously overpowered sword that spewed stars though. That's the question.
its better than the original like every JRPG remake in the past 20 years
Preordered off Amazon JP couple weeks ago, only ever got something Day One from them once before but it’ll still be only 2-3 days of waiting max. I’m really glad they did the updated/more accurate to the original art and brought back the OG Japanese release seiyu to record everything they wouldn’t have again, it was really appealing in First Departure R as well and it’s the kinda “for the fans” thing that only relatively niche series would bother doing for a port much less a full remake like this one. Most of all I think I’m just happy it’s entirely plausible that 6 sold well enough that tri-Ace and/or the franchise isn’t being shelved just yet. Maybe we might get a SO7 in the near future, if we’re lucky anyway
all of these look fine.
20223>1998>2008
Hate this game.
I wanted Claud to marry Celine but got Rena instead.
so fricking excited to buy the wine and never sell it
also upgrade skills w/c i have no idea how they work
>Soul
>Soulless
>Soulless
Games looks nice and seems fun. Knowing you autists are seething will be a nice boost to my enjoyment too
The demo was really fun, and I was surprised with the amount of control they give you over the changes.
I turned off bloom, distance blur, and dialogue portraits and switched to the original OST and menu portraits.
My only complaint is that I have nostalgia for the old transliterations (e.g. "Indalecio" instead of "Gabriel"), but I think the new versions are more accurate to the original JP script.
Looking forward to the release.
Star Ocean is a garbage franchise.
Star ocean was always the d-tier JRPG series, you played them when you literally already played though every other jrpg in existence
>moronic homosexual went from calling the original as soulful to shitting on the entire franchise to doompost a game
the absolute state of doomposting trannies
>post shits on a game but doesn't reply to anybody as if it was a new person in the thread
>mysteriously, the IP count stays the same