Replayed each game concurrently- so I beat gym 1 in yellow, then gym 1 in crystal, then gym 1 in emerald... and so on. Decided to rank each game in order after every gym.
Thoughts on my final rankings?
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Shit list.
Least autistic /vp/ poster
so higher must be better right
yes, each game was ranked 1 to 10, 10 being the best 1 being the worst
Oh sorry
In that case, acceptable.
Not surprised that XY dips after the second Gym.
Pretty based list but you should have played FRLG instead of Yellow
Gonna do Remakes all together I think
pretty based. I personally have bw2 much lower, the pacing in that game is fricking atrocious
What a garbage fricking rating
What are you ranking? Difficulty or how much you enjoyed it?
I tried to be as objective as possible, basing it mostly off of the teams you face, the pokemon you have available, story elements. I took notes for each so I can share for specific ones if you're interested.
Yeah, but what are you ranking? Are you ranking difficulty? Are you ranking the gym being fun? Are you ranking the gym's place in the story? What?
its not a ranking of the gym but of the game up until you beat that particularly gym; so gym 2 in platnium includes the valley windworks part, etc etc
>the game up until you beat that particularly gym
>SWSH
>Gym 5
>2
Like, I hate these games, but the forest and Opal's gym were great. It's a lame one, but there's also the mural story bit.
I can't see what a cycling road and Koga do better objectively.
Your ranking really doesn't make sense
You mean the forest thats basically a straight line with barely any exploration? You mean the town that is the same copy pasted buildings? Opal’s ace doesnt even have 4 moves.
The cycling road has a shit ton of trainers, plus the safari zone. The fact there are two paths to fuschia helps too.
>basically a straight line
like the cycable road anon
>Safari Park
I give you that
>Same copy pasted buildings
like anything in rby ?
Let's forget the giant mushrooms that lights the city, also that it's located in a forest and the magical atmosphere.
>talking about moveset when comparing anything to gen 1
>Koga's 3 Venonat
Yes, from the ranking gen 1 has no business being above gen 8.
It was just one point from many of op's terrible take overall though.
Maybe until you stop and remember that a game from 2019 is barely beating a game from 1996. Then maybe it makes sense why SWSH is considered the inferior of the dogshits. Atleast koga’s venonats have all 4 moves.
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>tried to be objective
yes, old was objectively worse
>platnium
you made the same typo in image. you are ESL
>>I tried to be as objective as possible, basing it mostly off of the teams you face, the pokemon you have available, story elements.
>Yellow: 7
Discarded
What makes things objectively good in this series?
I would say the things I value the most are:
>Wide Pokemon variety
Hard to justify giving X anything but a 10 for the Gym 2 segment, you just have an insane variety of Pokemon to obtain during that part of the game.
>Player choice / non-linearity
I tended to rank things higher if they had a good deal of side/extra content; different areas to explore (especially if they are areas you've explored before that are now opened up due to a new HM etc) New Mauville, Sprout Tower, the routes west of Route 1 in Unova. Having those went a long way for me. Also with Unova you get access to a lot of dope held items thanks to the Battle Subway / PWT being accessed so early; I literally had a Choice Band Cinccino that was cleaning everything up.
>Strategy / Difficulty
If a game forced me to adapt a certain strategy for beating a gym/boss, that was typically a sign of it being well-designed. Obviously this depends a lot on the specific gym configuration; like I really struggled against Gardenia but thats because I picked Piplup, it would've been a lot easier had I picked Chimchar, which is why Brawly above it; because he's about equally as tough regardless of your starter choice. It's also why I like fights like Norman, Elesa and Tate & Liza. Also something I should share is that I didn't use healing items in-battle, so that made some parts significantly tougher. Platnium got a 10 for the E4 section because for Cynthia I literally resorted to using type-reducing berries to beat her. So if the game forces me into that corner, its a sign it should be ranked high.
Surprised you have X so far up the list. The only game I dropped before the first gym.
XY have a good opening act but a bad/mediocre everything else. Sadly that's more than any of the other nugen games.
It’s pretty telling that your scores go down with each iteration. I remember being burnt out by Platinum, and by the time Black 2 rolled around, no one I knew played Pokémon anymore. I haven’t finished a Pokémon game beyond Black 2. They’re all so boring.
I knew people that played X, but they were decidedly not “normal,” and by then I knew that the series was doomed to appeal to only mega nerds, because Gamefreak is incapable of creating a phenomenon again. It took Go to bring Pokémon back in the public consciousness, however briefly.
I’m curious, OP. What made you replay all the games? and are you old enough to have experienced everything at launch ?
I was born in 97 so not quite alive for some launches but I’ve been playing them for as long as I can remember. Its just a way of relaying them all that I wanted to try. I also never beat Moon before then and hadnt played X since beating it the first time so figured it was time.
>I knew people that played X, but they were decidedly not “normal,” and by then I knew that the series was doomed to appeal to only mega nerds, because Gamefreak is incapable of creating a phenomenon again. It took Go to bring Pokémon back in the public consciousness, however briefly.
Like it or not, SwSh and SV have sold better than anything since the early days, for whatever reason.
It's as mainstream as it gets.
Every franchise that gets an iteration on the switch sells better than its predecessors, its not surprising
>for whatever reason.
A lot of my friends who fell out of Pokemon ages ago had been chomping at the bit for a Pokemon game to release on a "home" console
Sun and Moon does not have gyms
Here's my teams btw
OP is a hoenngay
Really not sure if nostalgia is that powerful but I'm really not sure what people like about the older games. I replayed White 2 before Sw/Sh and Platinum before BD/SP but still greatly prefer the newer games. Think a lot of it is just HM's usage. Swear to god I'm not trying to bait but I wish I could love Gen 4/5 as much as everyone else, just something about X/Y and S/V that speaks to me. My only guess is the more casual it is, the more I like it.
Newer games are just a complete slog to me. They’re just so slow and a lot easier compared to the older games.
There is a higher degree of control I have over how much exp my team gets in older games. At least until the exp share was always on and I couldn’t help my team leveling and evolving earlier than was normal. I can only speak for myself however.
That isn’t me randomly b***hing either, I’ve thought about it probably too much, and the exp share thing has the most effect on my play style of any new change in mechanics.
>gen 5 not dead last
AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Banette, Banette, Dusclops, Dusclops, Sableye
>Sealeo, Sealeo, Glalie, Glalie, Walrein
>9
Only major disagreement I have is going from Flannery to Norman being a 10, but maybe that's from my memory being clouded by ORAS teleporting you back after you beat her
>Roark this low
How
Like seriously if you give Roxanne a 9 then Roark is a 10
>sets up rocks
>lowers your defense with screech
>you either stay in and gets killed by Cranidos due to screech, or you switch and take stealth rock damage + 2 hits from Cranidos
>and to top it off Cranidos also has pursuit
Roark is the best designed first gym leader in the franchise. Meanwhile Roxanne is just a stallfest with Nosepass, I’m not sure why you ranked her this high.
Roark is indeed better than Roxanne but platnium’s early game mon availbility is so ass. I mean Onix and Geodudes only in Oreburgh Mine? Emerald blows it out of the water in this area.
Platinum has the same amount of mons available before the first badge as Hoenn iirc
i guess theres something really gross about a dungeon in the fourth generation of these games only containing two kanto mons
Using previous mons as common encounters isn't a problem tbh, that's part of how Sinnoh (and Johto) are designed
If anything Sinnoh's problem is the lack of 1% encounters. 1% encounters really create memorable moments in pokemon
>yeah it's basically the same if not better but i don't like it just because
fricking hoenngays
if a game makes the same mistakes as its predecessor than yeah that makes it worse. The first leg of Emerald is just better than the first leg of Platnium. Unless you love looking around a city for clowns.
>if a game makes the same mistakes as its predecessor than yeah that makes it worse.
okay now you're just making shit up
>Unless you love looking around a city for clowns
That was funny unironically
>Hoenngay
>a completely shit taste
Figures
>stretch between the 6th and 7th gyms in BW2 only a 6
Such a shit take it invalidated the entirety of your list to be honest.
what was so good about it? Lentimas is kind of a boring town, Bianca tailing you makes Reversal Mountain very easy, and the encounters available on Route 13 are explicitly worse than in BW. I do love village bridge though.
>Gen 1-5 are at least middle to decently high
>immediate dropoff once Gen 6+ rolls around
kek