I installed Tekken 7 on an HDD and loading takes FOREVER on it, sometimes it even crashes while loading. I guess if you play nothing but GBA games on your HDD you probably don't see any issues.
I tried playing Dusk on a HDD, and it took a couple minutes every time I booted the game just to load the music. Every single time, sitting there for a minute or two just to play the game.
Load it onto an SSD and it literally takes less than a second.
I highly doubt this very much. A common problem with 2077 and hdds is the game half loading when you drive from one side of the map into the next. When installed on an ssd it goes away.
You simply have no frame of reference to compare your shitty HDD load times to. When I switched to SSD the difference in boot time for your OS alone was night and day. Loading times for games are also remarkably faster.
At this point SSDs can be pretty cheap too so there is really no point in being an HDD caveman.
I don't have one... well, I have one, but I've never bothered to transfer my operating system over to it. I didn't realize how necessary it was until I got a Steam Deck. Games that take 30 seconds to load on the Deck take 4 minutes on my desktop.
>RTX 2070
It's hard to go back to 60 FPS but if I can tweak it to 80 FPS at 1440p at least I'll be happy. I hope the game has DLSS or someone mods it in.
it just means faster load times, that's literally the only good thing that SSD's are for, if you want storage you'd go with a HDD or specialized disks.
it just means faster load times, that's literally the only good thing that SSD's are for, if you want storage you'd go with a HDD or specialized disks.
Probably to prevent major pop ups in game, I remember in freelancer you could mess with the speed so much that you could fly through shit before collision loads.
>is this with or without optimized/compressed assets?
even if it wasnt current year, you could very easily assume it is unoptimized because that is bethesdas track record. modders routinely do textures better both size wise and quality wise.
Actually, it's the Xeon E3-1285 v6
But still four cores
11 months ago
Anonymous
7700K has OC support
11 months ago
Anonymous
Then yes, the 7700K is better
But the baseline E3-1285 v6 performance is better than the 7700K by quite a bit
11 months ago
Anonymous
Just gonna assume you're right then anon
Haven't looked at any charts myself but even the base freq of the 7700k is higher
Both have the same turbo freq the same, same architecture so Idk why that Xeon would out perform it in games
Both the minimum and recommended specs have 6 core CPUs
Time to upgrade, boss. You can grab an AMD 5600, new board and RAM for very cheap nowadays. If you wanna stick with intel, 12400 is cheap too. Even the newer 13 series
It'll just be a board and CPU swap
Maybe a new cooler but if you've got like a hyper 212, just grab the new fittings for the new socket. Or use the stock cooler than comes with the AMD CPUs
Easy
Unless your PC is in a shit spot or something?
11 months ago
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It's not that, I'll just have to take most of the stuff apart and it'll be a hassle. If it was just a CPU replacement I'd be fine but I didn't realize the socket itself also sucked nowadays so the idea of unscrewing everything again is a bit daunting.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I getcha
Give it a good dusting too since you're there anyway
That’s actually not that bad, I’m a poorgay and I don’t give a shit about Starfield but it would only cost me about €350 now to get an RTX 3060 and an ssd.
They're at the point where a hard drive is more likely to break from physical wear before an SSD runs out of read/write cycles. Under normal use, at least.
just ordered me a nvme for the first time.
I'm slightly excited but i have my expectations tapered. I'll definitely put starfield on it but idk what other games to play around with before that.
mostly did this because i was running out of room on my hardrive and wanted something new and know my motherboard has room for it.
I'll probably work my way to making a new PC next year so i figured this should be fine, inexpensive, and something i could even transfer into the new one.
>I'm going to get a 256 SSD for my OS and the games I play the most then a 4TB HDD for everything else. >I'm so smart! >20 minute load times on newer games, texture pop-in, video codecs struggle to play more than the game itself, intense menu lag, chugging and stuttering every 5 seconds
SSDs are the hot new crutch on the market, aren't they?
I'm curious how many people this impacts. Honestly, if someone didn't have an SSD, but buys one for Starfield, that just means Starfield has produced a real quality of life increase in their computer. SSDs are the biggest quality jump in computers in 15 years at least.
I bought one kind of late, in 2016 after I got out of college. It was the single most significant jump in quality of my computer since, I don't know, dedicated graphics cards became common? I actually don't know. It was just such a huge speed boost for so little cost.
>no idea why this is suddenly a controversy.
Laptop zoomers and turd worlders that expect every AAA release onto the end of time to run on their STALKERboxes.
It depends
If you're going from like a shitty four-core eight-thread CPU to some beast like a 12-core 24-thread you may want to invest in a noctua cooler or something, stock tends to struggle with higher-end processors
This is stupid. No game NEEDS an SSD to run. They're just very nice to have. Developers should be developing their games to also run off hard drives, even if the game loads extremely slow.
>Developers should make their games run on Windows 98 even if the game loads extremely slow
See how moronic that sounds?
It's not just about fade to black load times, it's literally loading shit in while you're walking around
Good
Though I'm starting to regret going for an SFF build
Should've gone for 2 x 2TB NVMEs
>30 fps
cringe
>playing on console
moron
>implying it won't be 30 on PC when Bethesda still can't figure out how to not tie the fps with the physics
Who hasn't had an SSD since 2012?
poorgays.
specifically from shitholes like Russia and all of SEAsia.
I have 2 SSDs and 2 HDDs.
Me
I've had the same terrabyte harddrive for 10 years, never experienced bad load times for any games.
I installed Tekken 7 on an HDD and loading takes FOREVER on it, sometimes it even crashes while loading. I guess if you play nothing but GBA games on your HDD you probably don't see any issues.
I played cyberpunk 2077 no issues loading and that game's a piece of shit, maybe you shouldn't be so willing to buy into marketing
I tried playing Dusk on a HDD, and it took a couple minutes every time I booted the game just to load the music. Every single time, sitting there for a minute or two just to play the game.
Load it onto an SSD and it literally takes less than a second.
>minutes
>for a retro unity game
are you sure the game just isn't shit
There's nothing retro about it, but it's a Unity game so yes.
I highly doubt this very much. A common problem with 2077 and hdds is the game half loading when you drive from one side of the map into the next. When installed on an ssd it goes away.
Also with the new 2077 expansion, they're also insisting you have an SSD
You simply have no frame of reference to compare your shitty HDD load times to. When I switched to SSD the difference in boot time for your OS alone was night and day. Loading times for games are also remarkably faster.
At this point SSDs can be pretty cheap too so there is really no point in being an HDD caveman.
>On the same dial-up internet since the 90's
>"Ya guys my internet is fast, only takes 10 min to load up web pages"
Me, I have patience. Guess I need to get one now, though.
I don't have one... well, I have one, but I've never bothered to transfer my operating system over to it. I didn't realize how necessary it was until I got a Steam Deck. Games that take 30 seconds to load on the Deck take 4 minutes on my desktop.
And Nvme is even faster
>requires something any modern gaming PC has had for years now
literally the only people still not having at least a 256GB SSD is hyper poor gays
An SSD is like 25 bucks
if you want some cheap chink shit that will die in 1 month, sure.
>you need to pay $25 to play this $70 game!
Extremely low quality bait. Try harder next time.
And a 2TB HDD is rougly the price of a bag of Doritos.
>poor gays
homosexual NEET can't get a job
Playing Fallout 4 on a hard drive was already pretty painful
I'm gonna play this on my 1070.
>inb4
Hopefully you can play it and these are overblown
Usually with triple A games if you've got a good cpu you can fix everything else just by lowering settings
>RTX 2070
It's hard to go back to 60 FPS but if I can tweak it to 80 FPS at 1440p at least I'll be happy. I hope the game has DLSS or someone mods it in.
>ryzen 3700x
>4070ti
im good
What exactly do they mean by SSD required? what's stopping a homie from installing it on a HDD?
it just means faster load times, that's literally the only good thing that SSD's are for, if you want storage you'd go with a HDD or specialized disks.
"required" as in "if you play this on an HDD get ready for some unbearable load times"
that is assuming you are playing on 5200 rpm hdd's which are dirt cheap.
anon textures these days are GIGS in size, this homie is trying to lod in entire planets, you're going to be waiting a while
Just stripe a bunch of HDDs in RAID0 or RAID5, problem solved
Probably for streaming assets from storage
Probably to prevent major pop ups in game, I remember in freelancer you could mess with the speed so much that you could fly through shit before collision loads.
>125gb
is this with or without optimized/compressed assets? If half this game is uncompressed foreign audio I don't know if I should sad or angry.
Idk bro but 100GB games aren't uncommon anymore so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but how many of them are bloated because optimizing is something that other people do?
>is this with or without optimized/compressed assets?
even if it wasnt current year, you could very easily assume it is unoptimized because that is bethesdas track record. modders routinely do textures better both size wise and quality wise.
'member when games used to have multiple install options that took different space?
I 'member.
you are forgetting the multiple languages uncompressed videos, just liek destiny 2...
count on repackers to curb it down to 60GB tops.
3060 ti chad reporting in,, looking forward to starfield in 1440p
Crazy how your 3060ti has more VRAM than my 3080
6600k and 960 here
i can deal with all lowest but can i power through or will it be a slideshow?
i could do re4 remake on all lowest ok
>AMD Ryzen 7 5800H CPU
>RX 6500M Graphics card
Am I good?
>6500M
>M
Good luck with that
Is an i5-6500k good? Rest of specs are fine but my CPU is the bottleneck so I'm not sure if it'll be fine or not
That's below the minimum specs.
Fricked up.
What's the best CPU that fits an LGA 1151 socket?
7700K
Even then, doesn't have 6 cores
Actually, it's the Xeon E3-1285 v6
But still four cores
7700K has OC support
Then yes, the 7700K is better
But the baseline E3-1285 v6 performance is better than the 7700K by quite a bit
Just gonna assume you're right then anon
Haven't looked at any charts myself but even the base freq of the 7700k is higher
Both have the same turbo freq the same, same architecture so Idk why that Xeon would out perform it in games
Both the minimum and recommended specs have 6 core CPUs
Time to upgrade, boss. You can grab an AMD 5600, new board and RAM for very cheap nowadays. If you wanna stick with intel, 12400 is cheap too. Even the newer 13 series
I already got good enough RAM, and replacing the board itself is gonna be a huge pain.
it's so over
It'll just be a board and CPU swap
Maybe a new cooler but if you've got like a hyper 212, just grab the new fittings for the new socket. Or use the stock cooler than comes with the AMD CPUs
Easy
Unless your PC is in a shit spot or something?
It's not that, I'll just have to take most of the stuff apart and it'll be a hassle. If it was just a CPU replacement I'd be fine but I didn't realize the socket itself also sucked nowadays so the idea of unscrewing everything again is a bit daunting.
I getcha
Give it a good dusting too since you're there anyway
well im covered for the graphics card and the storage space but im just shy of the CPU recommended.
That’s actually not that bad, I’m a poorgay and I don’t give a shit about Starfield but it would only cost me about €350 now to get an RTX 3060 and an ssd.
I would rather get AIDS than ever again use a computer that didn't have at least the OS on an SSD..
30 fps lol
>console gay thinks he's sharp
Be gone, moron
0fps on lgbtstation
dont they break after a couple of years?
They're at the point where a hard drive is more likely to break from physical wear before an SSD runs out of read/write cycles. Under normal use, at least.
No alien wife, no buy. Simple as.
easy mods
my ship is going to be a cruise liner filled with a harem I collect across the galaxy
SSDs are great, but we all know the requirement is because of how many loading screens the game is planned to have. by foot or by loading screen.
just ordered me a nvme for the first time.
I'm slightly excited but i have my expectations tapered. I'll definitely put starfield on it but idk what other games to play around with before that.
mostly did this because i was running out of room on my hardrive and wanted something new and know my motherboard has room for it.
I'll probably work my way to making a new PC next year so i figured this should be fine, inexpensive, and something i could even transfer into the new one.
who the frick buys normal HDD's anymore? literally every build should be using SSD's
>requires an SSD
>load times are comparable to skyrim running on a mechanical drive
>Requires SSD
>still a buggy piece of shit
>requires 40yo tech
Oh no
Remember how long it took to load Skyrim on the 360? Kek good times
>he doesn't have an SSD
>requires 64 bit system
why? seems like an unoptimized piece of shit code
32 bit system users when the year 2038 hits
Please understand, 4GB is NOT enough.
Who the frick is still using 32 bit systems?
it's more stable, has a lot of legacy soft and overall soul
>requires 125gb of your ssd three months before you can play it
BASED
BF2042 wont work properly without a SSD. I just one 1TB cheap for BF2042, Fo4, Fo76 and ready for Starfield.
why would you play bf2042
Because i have friends who play vidya IRL together? But the game is fricking buggy tho.
>I'm going to get a 256 SSD for my OS and the games I play the most then a 4TB HDD for everything else.
>I'm so smart!
>20 minute load times on newer games, texture pop-in, video codecs struggle to play more than the game itself, intense menu lag, chugging and stuttering every 5 seconds
SSDs are the hot new crutch on the market, aren't they?
>new crutch on the market
bloated games really started being more common when the consoles got their ssds so take that for what its worth
microsoft already has a soft requirement of a ssd for windows 10/11
they are planning to make it it a hard requirement for oems
windows itself barely works on a hdd
I'm curious how many people this impacts. Honestly, if someone didn't have an SSD, but buys one for Starfield, that just means Starfield has produced a real quality of life increase in their computer. SSDs are the biggest quality jump in computers in 15 years at least.
I honestly don't understand how a person can go back to spinning drives for anything but cold storage.
I bought one kind of late, in 2016 after I got out of college. It was the single most significant jump in quality of my computer since, I don't know, dedicated graphics cards became common? I actually don't know. It was just such a huge speed boost for so little cost.
yeah most modern games should be played on an SSD, otherwise you will have performance issues. no idea why this is suddenly a controversy.
>no idea why this is suddenly a controversy.
Laptop zoomers and turd worlders that expect every AAA release onto the end of time to run on their STALKERboxes.
Im upgrading my CPU for Starfield and City Skylines, is this a good idea?
It depends
If you're going from like a shitty four-core eight-thread CPU to some beast like a 12-core 24-thread you may want to invest in a noctua cooler or something, stock tends to struggle with higher-end processors
I have a I5 10400 with my 3060 GPU
poorgays btfo
SSDs have gotten cheaper recently.
Can't wait to play it on my PS5.
This is stupid. No game NEEDS an SSD to run. They're just very nice to have. Developers should be developing their games to also run off hard drives, even if the game loads extremely slow.
>Developers should make their games run on Windows 98 even if the game loads extremely slow
See how moronic that sounds?
It's not just about fade to black load times, it's literally loading shit in while you're walking around
How the frick is this going to run on Xbox then
30fps locked on consoles
Which fricking poorgay loser is still using HDD for playing AAA games? Its 2023, get on with the time.
i have a SSD for my OS but for storage you still want a HDD. My HDD is 20 TB
the biggest ssd is 4 tb
How long will it take for mods to make it good aka sex mods?
Fallout 4 still doesn't have them. not good ones. coomers primarily stick to Sims and Skyrim.
>SSD
What is that lol
You're obviously a console player so you'll be fine.