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It's okay when Nintendo does it.
Because Nintendo makes good games and are one of 3 companies trying to prevent the upcoming gaming crash.
play neverwinter nights 2 instead
How are my fellow d4 players doing?
t. lvl 63 rogue
54 druid here fresh into nm, what am I supposed to do besides hop between helltides and whispers while questing along the way
nightmare dungeons.
I started 3 days ago. Why is there so much lag? is this just because of the "DDOS attack" or is it just this bad all the tim? Shits rubber banding constantly. it feels like i'm in a random open D3 lobby where 3rd worlders of varying ping come and go. Except i'm completely alone all the time.
Turn off cross play and cross chat
just hit 60 with my necro
blasting everything with bone spear now, shit is lit
60 barbie here
72 necro but rerolled when I had enough of the golem's moronaion.
So up to 78 on a spin to win Barb.
I have a level 69 barbarian in hardcore, it's fun but I won't be playing him till the patch.
7X necro no summons, shadow and bone
having fun tryharding with no pets
lvl 76 necro, bone spear is still oneshotting everything easy mode.
If only necros were not slow as shit for mobility.
Waiting to see patch notes before deciding seasonal character
61 necro
Im bored
100 barb and 78 necro, both in HC. bone spear necro is boring as frick and minions are shit, might try druid or rogue
52 hardcore sorc
How's sorc?
I'm considering either sorc or rogue for season 1, I haven't really played either a ton
Complete shit, too reliant of defensive CDs
I see, that's a shame, teleport looks cool.
do not listen to him
>How's sorc?
unplayable, every single fricking thing is cooldown locked.
>teleport
>17 hour cooldown
>fire-shield
>active 2 seconds, cooldown 20 hours
the whole game is fricking unplayable because of all the god damn cooldowns.
it really is a shame.
>65 sorc
>56 barb
>50 druid
>44 rogue
>11 necro
game is shit
>highest character at 65
you didn't play the game sweety
>dude you only played 100 hours
>you have no right to critique it
lol
Correct.
Why should anyone listen to what someone that essentially just installed the game has to say about the game?
And that's assuming you have even actually played the game at all. You just gave some random numbers. Until you post proof, you have NOT played the game in a very literal way.
this board really is fricking stupid sometimes
Sometimes?
>immediately moves the goalposts
I accept your concession.
i can comfortably farm wt4 on my sorc and it’s boring as frick.
there are no rewards other than paragon levels.
why exactly should I keep playing?
>farm wt4
? lol you have not played the game based on this alone
it sounds like you just threw some term because it feels like something people that play say
are you moronic?
I’m in world tier 4 and got full ancestral gear and a bunch of uniques.
there’s no reason for me to keep playing now as the dungeons are utter shit.
>but muh uber lilith
Half way to 100 in terms of xp is around 85, you didn't even get halfway on any characters ie. you didn't play the game. How can you say its shit.
just hit 80. I'm getting very close to just giving up completely. The only reason I'm still playing is to say I killed Uber LIlith but its so boring.
77 barb, no chance i'll make it to 100 before s1
solo is so slow bros..
Level 40 Barbarian I'm aiming for a blood scream build, so far it's working pretty smoothly
70 druid, need more lucky hit chance but nothing is dropping with it and rerolling stats just keeps giving me bullshit resistances. I really hope XP gets buffed here soon, it's beginning to slog even if I'm having a good time.
>having a good time
>I want this to end faster!
I want to play with my build in full. Farm rare uniques and kill uber Lilith.
How is your build not resembling it's full self by level fricking 70?
What do you still not have?
Lucky hit chance and a few more stats to hit the caps on my paragon board for bonuses. Could also use melted heart but that's a rare unique.
Yeah, the game seems to slow down a lot approaching 70, and I hear it only slows down more.
I can only hope the game will be way different after months of patches, these things tend to never be super well dialed in at launch.
you know LHC is only on gloves and amulets right
Been playing since launch and I’m level 45 Im legit bored after beating the game and have nothing to do. Hopefully season 1 changes this….
>level 45
>Im legit bored after beating the game
>and have nothing to do
So you just completed the main story and did absolutely nothing else, and then count that as "beating the game"?
Yes because dungeons are very boring. There’s 100+ dungeons and every single one of them is the exact same with nothing new or unique.
I was hoping for some big labyrinthine randomly generated dungeons with multiple levels.
So you didn't beat the game, you quit after the main story.
That's where the game ends. Make items tradeable for an endgame. Either that, or add a Leaderboard. Without that, you have D3 over again, which is a waste of time. I'm through with you stupid fricking Blizzdrones.
>That's where the game ends
It's not. You quit at level 45. I can get to level 50 in 5 hours. The game overall has ~200 hours of content.
You are a fricking idiot. You are what's wrong with the world
You are the idiot here, claiming that finishing the main story in an ARPG is "beating the game". It would be like playing Diablo 2 and completing Act 5 on normal, then claiming that you have beaten the game.
>It's an ARPG so it's not finished by then.
Not that anon, but what an asinine fricking statement lol. There are huge differences between D2 and D4, that it might not as well be the same genre.
There is no economy in D4. There are no chase uniques in D4. There are no interesting stat outside of bigger number is better in D4. The complete opposite of D2.
>There are no interesting stat outside of bigger number is better in D4. The complete opposite of D2.
Yeah, because we didn't run the same shit over and over again in D2 for better stats huh?
Make items tradeable, improve items, encourage currency, make target farming. Make Diablo 2 Baal runs, but put that Baal run all across the entire game and you have a game
>Make items tradeable
Items are already tradeable albeit the system as it is is pretty moronic.
I'm not disagreeing anyways I'm just saying that pretending the D2 gameplay loop was somehow different is straight up cope. If they somehow applied those things in the current game that game would be the same except instead of doing Sigil-gayrun#9285721 you would do Specific-target-run#87872836. People need to stop acting like doing a billionth Baal run is any different than doing nightmare dungeons or that tree thing or whatever.
You had chase uniques in D2 beyond just bigger number is better. You had Enigma, Infinity, Griffons, etc.
Those things allow you to break immunities that allowed your character to do other end game farm spot which gave you a sense of progression. Your sorc could go from Ancient Tunnels to The Pit for example after looting a Griffons to break lightning immunes.
D4 has no sense of progression beyond seeing bigger numbers on screen.
>starts randomly babbling about trading, economy, uniques, itemization, stats, etc.
Are you an npc just running on the same script that you are incapable of deviating from? The topic at hand was the dude claiming that he "beat the game" by just playing through the main story and did absolutely nothing else in the game.
>Why are you talking about loot in a genre all about loot hunting?
I would ask you if you are brain damaged, but you bought D4, so that answers that question.
Did you miss the part where I specifically wrote: "The topic at hand was the dude claiming that he "beat the game" by just playing through the main story and did absolutely nothing else in the game"?
YOU are the one with brain damage, considering that you randomly started babbling about all of those things completely out of nowhere, like an actual schizo.
I beat the campaign. Anything after that is a waste of time. It does nothing. It's worthless. If you want to make nuDiablo then add a Leaderboard and a Greater Rift system so you can run things instantly with friends. Everything has been removed from past Diablo games. It is a barebones waste of time that should have had a lot more development time for $100
No, you neglected my points. After the campaign ends, you do a tree of whispers to get a sigil, and then you slog over items more and more looking for improvements, only to throw out those items when you get to Tier 4. It's designed to waste your time. The entire system is built like trash. I'm TIRED of you people
>I'm TIRED of you people
You quit the game already. Stop coming to these threads. Set yourself free instead of being a loser who is upset about a video game.
You DO NOT understand ARPGs. Do not pretend like you understand them. Do not shit up the genre and make it into "200 hours of content" just to be a liar. Learn humility
>You DO NOT understand ARPGs
I have literally played 90% of APRGs in existence from start to finish, tons of them multiple times. It's one of my favorite genres. You're an actual moron.
>It would be like playing Diablo 2 and completing Act 5 on normal, then claiming that you have beaten the game.
But that's true and literally what it means
The content at the endgame of Diablo 4 is meaningless. There is no glory of getting a great item because it will always be without value as it's untradeable. You'll never barter with someone. I'm out of touch with modern games. Good luck you little homosexuals. You like SHIT games because you're a SHIT person
>200 hours of content
What kind of dumb cuck thinks replaying the same content over and over means that is cumulative hours of content? Playing 50 hours of content 4 times isn't 200 hours of content, it's 50 hours of content. If you bang a girl 50 times you haven’t banged 50 girls you moron.
You are moronic. Once you defeat Uber Lilith, that's when the game ends. You know, the one final endgame boss that's the only somewhat hard content in the game. Oh wait, you don't even play the game, so you weren't even aware that she exists.
Does the fight last 150 hours? Because that's the only way your argument holds any water
>there's only 50 hours of content in D4, because I said so
This is literally your whole "argument".
How long does it take to complete the main quest then? Grinding isn't content.
>How long does it take to complete the main quest then?
You can rush it in like 10 hours. Are you now going to say that Diablo 4 only has 10 hours of content?
Yes, that is the base. Then extend it to maybe 20 for not rushing, because games aren't built around speedrunners, tack on a couple hour for random dungeons. Maybe about 25-50 hours?
So following your own logic, Diablo 2 is finished once you have completed act 5 on normal, and then there's no reason to continue playing D2 after that ever again, right?
Absolutely. You can replay the same content with different classes, but it isn't more content.
Here's your endgame fight bro
?t=64
I beat the main story which is all that matters. Everything else is very boring and hard to even get through once you realize everything is the exact same and there’s no unique rewards.
Am I just supposed to speed run and keep doing the same exact dungeons over and over again every single day like some autist?
>Am I just supposed to speed run and keep doing the same exact dungeons over and over again every single day like some autist?
Yes, this is literally what the ARPG genre is like. Good job exposing yourself for being a clueless zoomer.
You need a reason to run those dungeons. D4 has nothing that compels you to hunt for items in D4.
The items are all shit.
>You need a reason to run those dungeons
Did you defeat Uber Lilith? No? Then there's a reason.
What does uber lillith drop that would upgrade my character?
>I NEED A REWARD TO PLAY THE VIDEO GAMES, I CAN'T JUST SET CHALLENGES FOR MYSELF AND NOT BE REWARDED!
Zoom zoom, lil buddy.
is zoom zoom supposed to be an insult or something?
at this point you are telling zoom zoom to a dude that obviously has better taste than you.
she drops.... uhh.... satisfaction, i guess?
nobody in blizzard thought about making the game actually fun to play.
>is zoom zoom supposed to be an insult or something?
Here is another zoomer. nu-Ganker is so infested with these 15-18 year old morons.
>zoom boom foom coom poom loom
i dont speak Black person, sorry.
come back when you learn some proper english.
David Brevik was not there for these games D3 and D4. Sad but true. nuBlizzard is incompetent
>she drops.... uhh.... satisfaction, i guess?
This is the problem with nu-blizzard. They are designing an ARPG with an MMO mindset. The devs at blizzard now are so braindead they can only remake WoW over and over and over again.
Why would I set that challenge when it's not fun? I'll just set myself a challenge in a better game thanks
ARPGs are about the loot hunt. Are you new to the ARPG genre? Are you a WoWtard or something?
He could be a dev, yes
>Are you new to the ARPG genre?
I have played 90% of APRGs in existence. Tons of them multiple times.
>Are you a WoWtard or something?
This is quite ironic coming from you, who suggests that the only reason to play ARPGs is to chase loot, which is exactly what WoW was founded upon.
>I have played 90% of APRGs in existence. Tons of them multiple times.
Highly doubtful. Name 5 ARPGs right now.
>This is quite ironic coming from you, who suggests that the only reason to play ARPGs is to chase loot, which is exactly what WoW was founded upon.
No it isn't. And it shows how moronic you are not being able to differentiate between the MMO model of gameplay vs the ARPG model of gameplay.
>Name 5 ARPGs right now
Diablo 1
Diablo 2
Diablo 3
Diablo 4
Diablo Immortal
Chronicon
Din's Curse
Titan Quest
Grim Yawn
Nox
Darkstone
Last Epoch
Hero Siege
Minecraft Dungeons
Wolcen
Pagan Online
Torchlight 1
Torchlight 2
Torchlight 3
Torchlight: Infinite
Undecember
FATE
Mu Legend
Lost Ark(mostly MMO, but it counts, I guess)
GhostLore
Loki
Vikings of Midgard
WH40K: Inquisitor
Warhammer: Chaosbane
Path of Exile
These are just off the top of my head, probably forgotten a dozen others. I've played most of these multiple times. ARPG is one of my favorite genres.
>These are just off the top of my head
>took minutes to respond to look up a list of ARPGs
Convincing.
Do you sit in threads and spam F5 every second?
Pretty sure Dungeon siege would be on there if he googled ARPGs.
i've played through grim yawn and titan quest, same with diablo 2 and 3
torchlight made me fall asleep faster than titan quest
lost ark is shit
the others don't look as interesting but with how awful diablo 4 is i might try some of them out
no one else wants to play them with me and i fall asleep with these types of games even if i find it fun
>which is exactly what WoW was founded upon
But not anymore
>literally has to make fun for himself cause the devs didn't add fun
do d4 gays really?
People grinded Diablo 2 bosses for rewards. Diablo 2 released two decades ago. You are a seething midwit who is insecure about his age.
killing a hard boss isnt the point here.
this isnt DOOM Eternal.
im supposed to get hard for loot in D4.
the items in D4 are all fricking shit.
0 initiative to hunt for items.
64 necro here, I either 2 shot everything or I run out of essence and die.
Level 70 Necro
Love it, the minions are cool at first, then the Bone builds become too OP to ignore them. They need to buff Blood builds and maybe find a way to make minions viable in the endgame, but the necromancer is pretty damn fun
People think bone is next to get the axe, I got into torment at 54 with minions and am 66 in torment with them. The resist fix will fix a lot of there problems. No idea if they will be uber lilith viable but def torment viable in the 70s.
>all these responses
People are really giving bl*zzard money? What an absolute bunch of cucks.
82 barb currently wondering whether to use rope or a gun.
67 druid, 69 rogue, games not finished it might get good if they can fix the endgame in seasons but right now I cant recommend it, nightmare dungeons are worse than rifts were, helltides are ok in small doses but become intolerably boring if you grind them, and theres nothing else worth talking about. They need to seriously add complexity to crafting as well.
61 HC Black
55 rogue, shadow is fun
i just beat the campaign. wont play again until the first season i guess
bored
t. lvl 65 druid
77 necro, last 2 levels were a chore and boring as frick, i cant play more than 20 mins each log in
>invert the diablo franchise in a israeli demon worship fanfic
>charge $70
i have disposable income. get a job or rob a store, Black person
Spending 70 is not a flex trailer trash
Neither is larping just because you don't have $70.
And I would rather be the nignog that has $70 to spare than does not.
you really think the only reason people wouldnt buy it is because they dont have $70? are you that stupid?
>heh poorgays
Youre incredibly stupid
The point is that its not worth 70$
Stupid bootlicker
>The point is that its not worth 70$
nta but that's factually wrong
>the game costs $70 I make $70 in an hour of work
>i got like 60 hours of entertainment out of it
it was worth worth by definition, look it up
apparently the only thing more worthless than your money is your time, you moronic homosexual
i had fun. u mad brah? self hating cuck that cant ever have fun with anything. just end it lilbro
look guys, the shills is here with its copy pasted narrative
yea well....im gonna go pay an ugly fat niggress 200$ to have sex with me haha i have disposable income!
>gets aids
diablo 3 was fun
is the mount worth $20? do you get a regular mount if you don't buy one of the two goy editions?
>sick and tired of 11 sec cooldown on my teleport
>ill get a horse, then
>20 sec cooldown
THERE'S A COOLDOWN FOR THE MOUNT?
It's 10 seconds, absolutely fricking moronic. It's even more jarring because there is no cool down if you mount/dismount in town. A lot of weird fricking decisions like that in this game
Yes. The mount you don't even get unless you've played for hours already.
>not just using up a valuable enhancement slot to turn dodge into a teleport and wearing boots that reduce the cd of dodge everytime you hit
game still has shitty movement abilities though and cooldowns are cancer
>you need to actually work around the moronic fricking cooldowns in this shit game for it to be remotely playable
>barely lowered the cooldown by half
what the frick is wrong with nu-blizzard.....
they should just make a new game type, called "fun mode" and let us play D3 and D4 without cooldowns at all.
>but that would be fun, we cant do that
understandable, goodbye.
>shitposters havent even touched the game
Wow no way this is definitely the first time this has happened
>get to torment, the highest difficulty in the 50s
>ride to destinations on the horse
>elites will randomly smashed me off the horse putting it on a 20sec cooldown AND take half my live in the process
>have to pop a defensive cooldown or ill die trying to get out of the pile to continue on my destination
>is the mount worth $20
Frick no, you get a free one in game when you progress the campaign. Plus, there are a lot of horses and armours to collect. I got the preorder shit but stopped using it the instant I got a random drop in game. This is my lil dalmatian homie now
>"hurr durr id's liek d3!"
>game aggressively disavows everything about D3
>devs completely unlearned every lesson from the previous entry
>Take everything that was good and fun about D2 and D3
>Make sure none of it gets implemented in D4
>People get mad and stop playing
>""This is how modern ARPG's work! I guess you don't like ARPG's"
there's not even any music in D4.
what the frick.
D3 already barely had any music, but with D4 they just went "frick it, we dont need sound in the game".
still can remember d2 music, d3 had music?
hell even poe had music
morons bought a 70 dollar game and it doesn't even have soundtrack to it
>constant music in D4
>ZOMG NO MUSIC
Post the ASMR flute solo's from D4, then, so we can all have a fricking laugh at your expense.
There's...a lot of music.
there is literally no music in D4.
there is some ChatGPT made violin and flute solo's in the game, but that not music.
Major city.
i hope you posted this to prove the dude right.
what the frick is shit.
...music? I know it's not kpop, but surely your TikTok-addled brain can appreciate strings.
>K POP! K POP! AND AND AND AND
>TIK TTITI KTOKTOTK
>AMND AND ANDNFGJ
HOW BOUT JUST SOME GOOD MUSIC, MOTHERFRICKER?
Act 1 overland is the only good track.
Good God, how Blizzard has fallen. Most of this pathetic soundtrack is just silence.
studies show that 95% of gamers mute music anyway
studies show that you're full of shit.
damn straight it is.
>no counter argument
Concession accepted.
Next time, first try to actually play the game that you are defending so you don't look like a uneducated fool.
That's the remake not the original lol
It's a youtube video you buffoon. Love the seething in my general direction though after completely demolishing every """""argument""""" defending D2 though.
no no no, i accept YOUR concession.
>but i posted a gif from D2...
yeah, it shows how fricking fun it is.
mana is a problem only for very low level characters.
>no no no, i accept YOUR concession
too late, I accepted yours first
you are not coming back from this I'm afraid I ridiculed you in front of everyone
>but i posted a gif from D2...
>yeah, it shows how fricking fun it is.
Anon, please
Studies also show majority of "gaymers" are on mobile. So maybe take your "most optimal" business strategy and frick off to mobile market?
You soulless npc subhumans really should just stop breathing.
then you have morons like this guy being disingenuous about the MUSIC of all things that everyone can easily tell is there
no.
d4 has no music.
there is some ChatGPT made flute solo once in an hour, but thats not music.
nice autism moron
now you'll tell me since it doesn't have 100bpm or is too close to ambient music or some other delusional garbage
>here, have a youtube link to the shittiest fricking music ever recorded in an ARPG
>and DONT YOU FRICKIN' DARE say its shit
its shit.
can you point us to a cool moment in this soundtrack? just point to a time point in the clip.
in the meantime while you sift through all the flute solos, here, have some great ARPG music that wasnt composed by ChatGPT:
>before: DIABLO 4 HAS NO MUSIC HAHAHHA
>now: WELL MAYBE IT DOES ACTUALLY HAVE MUSIC AND I LIED, BUT IT IS SHIT MUSIC HAHAHHAA
You must be 16 years old and severely mentally ill.
>so its shit because its mostly silence? and there is only 1 instrument? huh?! thats why you call D4 soundtrack shit?!
yes, that is exactly why im saying its shit.
here, have something that isnt 90% silence, or a flute:
you're literally shitting yourself with lies and tripping on it to tell us the music doesn't exist or it doesn't count
1/10 you got me to reply this long
The music ramps up/down depending on what you are doing. If you never actually noticed any music, then it's probably because you have some sort of tunnelvision autism while in combat that you weren't able to hear the music.
so it doesn't have enough BPM or guitars and that's why you're complaining?
wow it's almost like i literally just finished stating that you'll say some delusional shit and then you did
i say there's music and then you tell me it's shit, it's wrong, or it's worse, etc when you're literally lying
>his song that he chose defaults into slow, creepy, twung twangs of guitar
>exactly the same as the slow town songs in diablo 4
are you fricking moronic or deaf?
Based, i loved diablo 3, it had the best gameplay.
Does leveling get faster once you can avoid the campaign and go straight to do open world stuff?
I finished the campaign at level47 skipping almost everything but my barbarian is boring as frick, hammer of the ancients area of effect is super small, on top of that generating fury anchored to the groudn and only hitting 1 guy is moronic.
I'm thinking of going necro
>but my barbarian is boring as frick
you will say the same thing about the necromancer.
the whole game is just boring as shit, and i am extremely fricking butthurt i can refund it anymore.
>the spells are boring
>world traversal is boring
>music is ASMR flute from youtube "sleeping compilations"
>"communist russia grey" filter put on the whole game
its a game DESIGNED to make you fall asleep.
im not shitting you.
if i was ordered to make a game that would make people fall asleep while playing, i would just make a game exactly like D4.
Everything in D4 is designed to bore you to sleep.
i cant**** refind it anymore.
i really want to see the Black folk that type this shit play poe, d2 or grim dawn
those games have the "jackpot" feeling (except grim yawn)
and the better your character, the faster you do maps/ubers, the more drops you get
with the added bonus of PoE and even D2 allowing you to experiment with unique builds centered around items, instead of items just buffing your skills with just big numbers.
im playing D2R right now.
>has music
>has sound
>world traversal isnt boring slow-ass dogshit
>no "communist-grey russia" filter over the whole game
>spells looks great
>actually get to pick from more than 3 skills like in D4
>no cooldown horseshit, or muh resource generator horseshit
yeah D2 is still the best ARPG ever made.
>world traversal isn't boring slow-ass dogshit
It's incredibly slow ass shit until much later. Barb and Sorc can get there quicker with leap and teleport, but still.
>It's incredibly slow ass shit until much later.
if you actually played the game, you'd know that Paladin gets Vigour at lvl 18 to zip around the map like fricking Flash, Sorc has 0 cooldown Teleport, Barbarian runs around like he was drugged on coke, Assassin is just fast, and Necromancer and Druid are designed to be slow as shit, but you can later just Enigma and make them 0 cooldown teleport across the map.
D2 was a step down from D1 in a ton of ways.
>Openish world segments instead of tight corridors
>Start of AoE spam
>Story shit instead of a simple premise
>Utilizing terrain and choke points are removed
>Music is inarguably worse
>Atmosphere is worse
D1 is still the best Diablo game.
Yeah it also noobified world traversal by adding running. Total scrub game.
Unironically go kys, homosexual.
>Running
Added because of the larger game areas that had more open space. Diablo 1 was built around walking speed so b***hing about lack of running is the dumbest shit.
You have horrifically moronic opinions. Just the radiant heat from you having thoughts is not worth the negative impact of your continued existence.
>Unironically go kys, homosexual.
I like both but I see where you are coming from. I think Diablo would be more fun if it could return to its roots and have sections that are just one long dungeon like DnD.
I played the D4 beta and to me it felt like I was playing World of Diablo 2 or Diablo 3.5, like it took them 11 fricking years to essentially make a passable version of Diablo 3 which is insane to me in that it feels like the design teams, instead of trying to actually innovate or make something what fans wanted they decided to double down on the concepts of Diablo 3 and fine tune them so they arent a heaping pile of garbage and just seems better in comparison.
Basically its the leftist mindset that oh there wasnt anything wrong with communism we just need more communism! Yeah Kruschev is good because Stalin was so bad!
>Basically its the leftist mindset
Leftists control corporations and capitalism now? Based if true.
What brings a person to the point where they need to be this contrarian?
It's part of your identity, I just wish I knew what made you cling to it.
i have no idea, man, ask the homosexuals who say there is music in D4, when there is none.
yeah, RIVETING gameplay lmao
b-bu-but the best game of all time
This is infinitely superior to that cooldown based tripe in diablo 4!
Frick me it looks a lot nicer than I remember
You have tiny hands, as evidenced by your choice of controller.
can somebody explain to me how come D2R looks so much better than D4?
Because you're stupid.
>NO NO NO NO!
>STOP LAUGHING AT THE "COMMUNIST RUSSIA GREY" FILTER!
>STOP LAUGHING!
no.
I don't get it.
He's mentally ill, you probably won't
d4 is using 1 colour.
cry more.
If that were true, you would have a blank screen.
>If that were true, you would have a blank screen.
it is.
I can see details. One color is like this.
>he posted a screenshot from D4
>same reaction image from the guy who claims everyone has to use DLSS
The picture on the right clearly has a rich color palette what are you even talking about.
You cherrypicked a "bad" picture and even you are still wrong. Crazy stuff going on in your head.
>The picture on the right clearly has a rich color palette
i accept your concession.
>statement so true that he can't even form a counter argument against it
Concession status : Accepted
>its all grey
>rich color palette
if you're a dog, yeah.
>its all grey
except it isn't, it clearly has a wide palette of color
try harder in the next thread because you are completely defeated in this one
None of your images even include diablo 4 screenshots you sperg.
You're just reusing shit from when Diablo 3 came out.
those images on the right are from D3 though?
good, that means your still sane
>can someone explain to me how I developed this subjective opinion
Symptom of contrarianism. Get an appointment with your doctor for a checkup.
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So both gameplays are the same.
D4 is just as good as D2 confirmed. Thanks. Anyone who defends D2 is by definition defending 4 and viceversa.
D4 is no better than D2's shitty gameplay. The only difference is D2's items are way better than D4 and are much more interesting.
There's a reason people enjoyed running 5,000,000 baal runs over the span of decades while people are bored out of their minds in D4 after a month.
how do I play it without having to visit town to buy 10000 mana potions every 5 minutes?
>how do I play it without having to visit town to buy 10000 mana potions every 5 minutes?
finish act 1 and learn to play.
also, i much more prefer getting mana from town every 5 minutes, than casting a spell once a day and wait for the cooldown to wear off.
what happens to mana regen after act1?
ive only saved cain so far
get some mana per kill items, even if it just a 2 socket helmet with two tir runes
Not that anon, but as much as I hate D4 and love Grim Dawn, it's absolutely magical how sleepy GD makes me, it's one of maybe three non-mobile games I've ever actually fallen asleep to, I have no idea why it happens either.
it's entirely owed to the music. dreary slow chords like that are basically emotional sleeping pills. ~800 hours in grim dawn, i played maybe 10 of that with the original soundtrack and just turned it off afterward since the game feels like chugging nyquil if you leave it on
D4 music is even worse than Grim Dawn, and i was always saying GD music was the worst i ever heard.
you get what you deserve
I didn't even finish act 5 and went back to PoE. I hate open world games. Really wish I could get my $110 back...
>I didn't start the game.
i played through the whole game in 1-2 hours, actually.
it has nothing to offer, no content, no spells.
>nuh-uh! if you spent X hours and and and and
>get the the the the
>paragon and and and
frick off.
Campaign isn't the game.
>game is so god damn fricking boring, most people dont even finish it, or just uninstall after finishing the campaign
lol
>but but but but
>this is where the fun starts!
no, this is where uninstall starts.
a couple of low viewcount aka normie streamers i was observing literally just ragequit at lvl 60 coz the game got too "grindy" and they thought it was boring.
I always laugh when casuals give up at level 40/50/60/70, because they are already crying their eyes out about "grinding" but they don't realize that level 85 is halfway to 100 in terms of XP needed.
I didn't enjoy it so I stopped playing
what makes barbarian boring is you're limited to
>shout #1
>shout #2
>shout #3
>ultimate
>fury generator
>fury spender
So the gameplay boils down to press all your CDs and rotate between generator and spender
I tried using deathblow for a while to proc arsenal and generate more rage but its 15seconds CD really ruins it if you miss the kill.
Necromancer uses the same spender /generator combo but his CDs look more interesting
>corpse pops tendrils that pulls enemies
>corpse explosion
>curses
whoever thought adding WoW-tier cooldowns in a Diablo game should be publicly hanged by the neck until dead.
It is more involved than d2 and d3. Which is good. It just doesn't have enough freedom or skills o make it diverse. It also has too much focus on a meta with NM dungeon pushing.
its not involved.
its just cancer to play with.
>just wait for fun
>wait
>waaaaaaait
>CD
>CD
>muh generator
as opposed to
>mouse button 2
>mouse button 2
>mouse button 1
>mouse button 1
>mouse button 1
>mouse button 1
>mouse button 2
Nobody here actually remembers diablo 2, and if they do they are invested in pushing a narrative so they won't acknowledge the truth anyways.
We're post truth, these people are just fighting a culture war and think they should use any kind of propaganda possible to "win"
very true, Ganker is basically a bunch of programmed alt-right incels screaming into the void to "kill" blizzard
>alt-right
>incel
Opinion discarded.
you can't really discard facts though, they still remain even after you close your eyes and cover your ears
>alt right, incel
did americans forget how to talk in english?
what the frick is an alt right?
what about shift-left?
or ctrl-right?
num-lock?
im pressing my right alt button and nothing is happening.
tick tock ivan
>tick tock iv-ACK!
back to r/trans
i dont have to remember it, because im playing it right now, its alt-tabbed as im writing this post.
no, as opposed to:
>f1
>f2
>f3
>f4
>f8
>f7
>f6
>f4
You have never actually played D2 if you think anyone used more than 3 maybe 4 abilities with the exception of perhaps the paladin.
im using 10 skills as a barbarian regularly.
i accept your concession.
which 10 skills?
all the shouts, some combat skills, and spells from my gear (like teleport, and life tap curse)
i think even 10 is not enough, actually.
>all the shouts, some combat skills, and spells from my gear (like teleport, and life tap curse)
copity cope cope.
cant hear you over the sound of all the skills im spamming with 0 cooldown in D2 right now.
>cant hear you over the sound of all the manapots im chugging
fix'd that for you
damn straight motherfricker im chugging mana pots while teleporting all over the map with my 0 cooldown sorceress, and im having super fun with it.
>but fun is illegal in diablo! please wait XYZ seconds before you can have fun again!
nah man frick you im ZEEP ZOOPING SWISH SWOOSHING across the map.
>chugs mana potion
ZEEP ZOOP SWIPPITY SWOOSH YAHOOOOOO!
>generators are le bad!
>meanwhile in D2
i actually know how to play the game and i dont need mana pots : )
>which 10 skills?
>"some skills"
outed yourself as a liar
you couldn't even go to the wiki to look for some ability names to post? jesus counter-shills are fricking horrendous nowadays literally zero effort
>im using 10 skills as a barbarian regularly
further proof that you didn't play the game, just because you can put a single point in every talent and use doesn't mean that0s what was done
you LITERALLY didn't play D2 and it shows which means anything you have to say about it in comparison to any modern ARPG is irrelevant
>NO NO NO YOU CANT USE LIFE TAP FROM YOUR ITEM
>NO NO NO YOU CANT USE TELEPORT FROM ENIGMA
>NO NO NO DONT USE ALL THE SKILLS PLEASE STOP
how bout frick off, have a nice day, and i accept your concession.
Not an argument. You'd be hard pressed to find a build that used more than 3 spells at any time while you've been arguing the opposite.
You didn't play D2.
>no! you.... the argument is.....no! i ..... no! its..... no no no the argument....
did you get a stroke, motherfricker?
>no no no you cant..... its its....
learn to play.
>did you get a stroke, motherfricker?
based on that greentext you just came up with I'd say the one with the stroke is you lmao are you okay? you seem to be having a meltdown
postly reminder that you didn't play D2
what makes you think its impossible to use more than 1-2 skills in D2?
just because you have 12 IQ and dont know how to properly play the game, doesnt mean everybody is as stupid as you are.
>you didnt play the game
i am quite sure you're the one here that didnt play it.
like, at all.
you didnt even know you can use teleport and life tap as a barbarian.
please stick to talking about games you actually played anon, okay?
thanks bro.
>what makes you think its impossible to use more than 1-2 skills in D2?
nothing as I already acknowledged the possibility a couple posts ago
stopped reading there btw, it's clear that you are on some kind of autist crusade why even bother discussing anything when you are clearly not even reading lmao
i thank you for your final concession.
hopefully, you will stop conceding, because i cant take any more conceding from you, its just too much.
>hopefully, you will stop conceding
This is just a projection from your part. You've been conceding literally the moment you unknowingly admitted you have not played the game that you are defending.
Sorry man but you lost before you even began. You had DECADES to play D2 before D4 release so you would be aducated about the game to shit on its predecessor but instead you didn't play the game therefor your opinions about it are irrelevant.
>dude obviously played D2 a lot, judging by his posts about all the skills he uses
>NUH UH NUH UH HE DINT
have a free (you), out of pity.
>blatant samegayging
you didn't play D2 and this is obvious to anyone who has actually played the game
I take this petty attempt at samegayging as your ultimate acceptance of defeat. I mean, if you have to pretend to be someone else defending yourself, you MUST be completely defeated after all.
what made you think he didnt play D2?
which post? which sentence?
can you direct me to it? i want to laugh at this sad homosexual who didnt play D2 at all.
>what made you think he didnt play D2?
His posts.
>can you direct me to it?
Follow the chain of quotes.
i dont know which posts are his, there is no poster ID on v.
just link me to a post he obviously lied in, i wanna have a laugh at this lying homosexual.
>i dont know which posts are his
all the ones with a high concentration of autism,with banal takes about how good D2 was, and any post with unespecific information about what playing D2 was like
you can start at the top of the thread because he's the OP
i just read each and every post in this thread, and i didnt see even 1 post that would seem somebody was lying about playing D2.
can you point to even ONE post that proves these lying homosexuals didnt play D2?
just point me to at least 1, should be easy.
>i just read each and every post in this thread
you didn't, just like you didn't play D2
prove it.
>prove it.
the fact that you don't even deny it is hilarious lmao
you not providing proof that you did is my proof that you didn't
sorry honey but you lost again
>the fact that you don't even deny it is hilarious lmao
i am denying it.
now prove i didnt play d2.
>i cant
thank you for playing and for losing.
try again harder next time.
>i am denying it.
you didn't intiially so now it's too late you already lost
>now prove i didnt play d2
your lack of proof is my proof
you lost (again)
I hijacked your thread and I'm driving it where I feel like *beep beep*. I have taken complete control of your shit and turned it into my playground.
>all the ones with a high concentration of autism
so....every post on /v.
>One of the main complaints about D3 was being limited to six skills at a time.
>"Uh, if you say you put more than four things on your hotbar you didn't play D2."
What a moronic argument.
You didn't play D2 man. Why are you still going on about this?
>Diablo 2
>hotbar
Further proof that you didn't play the game, by the way.
You know Resurrected has a ten slot hot bar, right?
Yes and D2 didn't. Therefor someone talking about putting abilities in a hotbart has been playing the game, at most for a year or so and his opinions about how D2 was, or looked are irrelevant because his experience is from a different game and limited.
Thanks for proving my point AGAIN. YOU DIDN'T PLAY D2.
But the person who started this convo was talking about the F keys. I mentioned hotbars because I play Resurrected. In both cases this doesn't change the point, which is that people playing Diablo 2 used more than three or four skills at a time and mapped other functions as well. Which is why I brought up D3, which people got mad at for only letting you assign six skills at a time. Because D2 players were used to being allowed to use more if they wanted to.
How does ANY of that lead to "never played Diablo 2?" You're talking fricking nonsense.
is ASMR flute from youtube "sleeping compilations"
It's diablo3 but brown
as with everything it's insane that this shit is even viable anymore, it is literally just worse d3 with mmo bullshit put in and cancerous monetization, modern consumers deserve it
Good. I don't want poorgays and third worlders to be able to infest my games.
It is even more monotonous than D3. Too bad, I thought they might have been mixing things up since they claimed to be taking hints from MMO games. My highest hope was to see something like old Runescape but with D3 combat that is more grounded, something like Gauntlet Legends I guess. Instead it's the same antsy ass shit with some trivial garbage from modern WoW sprinkled in and virtually zero social aspect.
Except Diablo 3 has better progression, so it’s actually paying $70 for a worse game, that only looks better.
>D3 spells
>each has 8 runes, completely changing the whole spell
>D4 spells
>you get like..... 4 to pick from
>and each one has 2 "perks", like:
>if you do a jumping jack while the sun is near the apex on the 7th day of july you get +1% critical hit on vunlerable enemies (you get 1% to make an enemy vulnerable, but only if you go around your house 3 times and do a cartwheel)
Any chance of the expansion having us taking the dark side of being a nephalem? Kill some paladins and angels?
>level scaling in an arpg
i'm sorry, this game is fundamentally broken and unplayable. it has other faults as well, but level scaling is more than just a design choice you may or may not like. it's like an fps where your crosshair randomly moves to another spot on the screen or something. you could play it i guess, but why would you want to play a game that's fundamentally broken and unenjoyable by design?
The level scaling in D4 is especially moronic because a lot of areas have LvlX+ baseline. The whole point of level scaling is so you can frick off and do what you want right off. Diablo 4 is just to hp bloat everything to slow down a game that would be beaten in half the time if they didn't.
My biggest beef though? This is the worst enemy variety in any Diablo game ever.
What kind of brainrot drives someone to buy this game.
it's called being a normie
Would you like me to buy you a copy so you'll stop shitting up these threads?
Yes I would actually
on of the very few first steps in any games development project for a sequel is to investigate how much of the previous releases can be reused / reskinned / refactored
source: 15 years as a game dev, worked on AAA and indie companies
imagine if they had simply done that with d2 starting 20 years ago. we could be on diablo VII by now. it's incredible how blizzard fricked up the absolute wet dream that is this franchise.
You absolute b***hes would cry about it even if it created the best game of all time.
>uhhh asset flip?
>uhh guys this looks awful, these graphics are so bad
>why are they reusing assets wtf!!? bad devs
You get what you fricking deserve.
why are you fighting ghosts? there will always be critics. I'd rather have a good game that is criticized than a shit game that is praised. not sure what your point is other than being a contrarian.
Fighting ghosts?
Do you even browse Ganker?
Have you not waded through this trash thread to get to this post?
you said that even if hypothetically it was the best game ever made, we would still find flaws in it. my point is that that's ok, we would still have a great game, and people will always find things to criticize, and there's nothing wrong with that. for some reason you think criticism ( and the imagined criticism of a hypothetical game) means people DESERVE shitty games. and that them being critical of the shit game we have, means they don't deserve a good game (because they might also be critical of it?) Maybe you're not being contrarian, maybe you're just fricking moronic
That's not ok, because then there's nowhere to discuss the fricking game.
You homosexuals are insufferable.
Reddit is is reddit, and where else is there?
Why can't you homosexuals be critical without being wienerslurping contrarians who jump on every little gotcha point you can find hoping to have a another tortanic?
Nuance, there is a place in between.
That's my point, that's all I want.
They kinda did. They wanted to do 3D but realized 2D was a better call at the time.
is diablo immortal actually playable? wonder if I should try it, rather than spend 70 on this POS
$70 is a decision-worthy amount?
even 1$ is a decision worthy amount if it will get me a cheesburger that tastes like shit.
I got 50k in stockmarket. I still wont pay 70€ for a blizzard videogame
you must be joking
Pay for English classes.
no of course it isn't you fricking moron what is wrong with you
>says the moron who paid 70 dollars for d4
???
It worked. Blizzard won while you are here, seething.
And you will be buying the Premium Battle Pass for $30 in a few weeks.
And the Amazon Prime Premium Battle Pass Skip.
They talk about how they made it dark and serious, but they really have no idea what's that about, do they
Necromancer, as an example- skeletons glow like they consumed an assortment of fricking neon signs, instead of heads in a jar and wands you have "omg I'm just like grim reaper xxx" scythes as weapons and "teleports behind you and slices you with my scythe" skill. They made the textures darker but the tone remained the same wow cartoony shit. But I guess I'm stupid to expect Blizzard north talent and vision form whatever Blizzard is now
>everything necromancer related has a mega-bright neon party colour
i dont get it either.
it was already in D3.
Blizzard art and graphic designers need to be fired.
There is a guy who was skinned alive in one of the first fricking side quests, I'm not sure what you even want.
You're just going to cherrypick shit that you know full well was changed as a concession for gameplay.
Your skeletons are too bright?
What would they do if they were how you wanted them to be and blended into the environment?
It's already easy to miss one or two for a bit, they already blob together with each other, god forbid if they looked virtually the same as the enemies and floor and blended in more.
There's a shitton for gruesome corpses in d3 too, spraying gallons of blood and guts on everything doesn't make fiction mature or serious. If it was the case, all the cheap slashers and the trashy infantile voilent anime would be the peak of refinement and sophistication.
You say this as if D2 wasn't goofier.
The art direction is bad, yeah, but being too ridiculous isn't part of that.
+tip
If it was reskined D3 it would have been an improvement. Aside from campaign and graphics D4 is a massive downgrade.
I hate myself for buying it
Daily reminder that all these threads and half the posts in them are all made by the same schizo.
How long can i play D4 before i cant get a refund?
im playing for a few hours now and i hate everything about Diablo 4, i think its the worst game blizzard ever made.
is the game going to get fun later on or is it the same level of shit throughout?
>120$ for this
im 100% convinced Diablo 1 had better dungeon randomisation than this fricking disaster.
It's ok but I wish they kept the RMAH. I made so much money playing D3.
So, is there porn of this b***h yet?
Or people can't rip the model or some shit?
>Ganker is now defending Diablo IV
more like
>remove content from Diablo Immortal
>change $70 + tip
You can't even change classes in D4 lmao
What I despise the most that got carried over form d3 is this dog shit generator-spender + cool down system
>Hit the enemy with a wet sponge for 5 seconds
>You're allowed to swing twice to actually do damage now
>Repeat
this is pure fricking horseshit and its boring me to death.
game is already uninstalled and im refunding it.
>nooooo I want press one butttonnnn wahhhhhh
Can you homosexuals just be honest?
People b***hed about doom eternal for this same reason to, just say "I want to spam one ability and kill absolutely everything and I want everything in the game to suck my dick and call me powerful for doing that"
moron
just play Diablo Immortal
that doesn't look fun though, it's like watching a 320x400 SD youtube video on your phone
>that doesn't look fun though
Yeah I agree no ARPG looks fun
It's free you fricking moron
but the webm implies that it's fun when it's not
Yeah, no ARPG is fun I agree
Why not go discuss something you do find fun?
You do actually have fun in your life, right anon?
You're the one saying it's not fun you fricking moron and I'm agreeing with you.
>post webm stating ARPGs are fun
>I'm agreeing with you moron ARPGs are not fun
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>that doesn't look fun though
>but the webm implies that it's fun when it's not
>I'm not saying its not fun, you are!
>I'm not saying its not fun, you are!
correct
Incorrect. In response to a webm say its good, you said it's not fun. Evidence below:
>that doesn't look fun though
>but the webm implies that it's fun when it's not
I accept your concession.
sorry i actually dont have $30 000 in my bank. im too poor for immortal
that looks fricking moronic
That's what all ARPGs are like
>counter-shills are forcing shills to respond to them
based
You forgot the $40 battle pass tip
54 rogue just doin the renown ish
>buying and playing anything after Diablo II
Ngmi
but is okay if other games are doing it ? like Zelda, Dark souls/Elden ring, sport games, car games, etc?
D3 was fun and had cute characters
how is that like D4 at all?
d3 acts were so much more memorable
>75 IPs
>250 posts
man this schizo sure has a problem with blizzard huh?
all alt-right incels do, it's basically all they knew before they were programmed to be bannon's bots
maybe i'm a moron but my werewolf build is fun as frick and i've long completed the story, i enjoy challenging myself with the bullshit difficulty dungeons and just wandering around finishing off quests and getting all the statues, and one shotting and being one shot in pvp areas, and i built my spec all without googling le best builds
no other game lets me be a cool werewolf fricking shit up like this one, maybe skyrim with mods? not the same
Werewolf build is only fun because of their movement speed.
>reskin Diablo 3
>not reskin Diablo Immortal
Diablo 4 shills really got obliterated in this thread.
Thats a good sign. Maybe good taste is coming back to gaming.
Diablo 4 is literally the best game ever made and that will ever exist though. Blizzard won.
>Maybe good taste is coming back to gaming.
Nope. Capitalism killed video games. It's trash marketed to casuals with loose wallets ever since 2007.
>Maybe good taste is coming back to gaming.
Diablo 4 has been the fastest selling game ever in history. That's living proof that good taste is back on the menu.
>Diablo 4 has been the fastest selling game ever in history.
what does "fastest selling" mean?
Reaching a certain threshold in the shortest amount of time. Never heard of a thing called speed? Weird.
>fastest selling game in history
it could be just 2 guys buying the game with 1 nanoseconds from each other.
it means that between 6 am and 10 am on june 12 diablo 4 sold more copies than any other game did during that exact period of time
>be lvl 52
>still haven't completed the campaign so can't do any of the endgame
>just doing every side quest I can find along the way while slowly chipping at the campaign
>enemies getting harder while loot has stagnated
Anyone else playing the game wrong?
I think the only point of side quests is to unlock those extra skill points
I want Diablo 4 to be good, because I want to play it, but the game is godawful trash that in its current state is the worst designed video game of the year.
>i have not played the game but I know it's bad
mindrotten
I have played the game. I have posted all about it. The items are worthless. Playing is a waste of time. I'm not going to explain everything in detail again. You should have been here for my explanations
>I have played the game
Prove it.
Protip: You won't because you can't.
>but the game is godawful trash that in its current state is the worst designed video game of the year
I can't tell if you are just mentally handicapped or being completely dishonest on purpose.
This has been the year of absolute garbage like Forspoken, Wildhearts, Hogwarts Legacy, Wo Long, TLoU PC, Jedi Survivor, Callisto Protocol, Redfall, etc. that were halfway broken on their releases, some to the point that they barely even functioned. In comparison to these, D4 has literally zero issues as a functional game.
people still bought it
people are fricking stupid, what can I say
It's a steaming pile of trash. It's an abomination. The winner of the Raspberry Awards for video games.
I'm a lvl 94 sorc, I don't get the negativity. Gearing up to try out the blizzard build but for now still firewall which is quite funny. Massive CDR, multiple frost nova aspect, unique stun teleport chest, it zips around and farms everything, especially the PVP zone where idiots run through the damn fire. The cooldowns aren't a problem because they fire off so fast and I have the aspect that restores mana on CD usage. It's a lot of fun, I can't believe people say that sorc is the worst, I'll try rogue next probably. I guess I'm a shill but I do enjoy the game.
54 sorc in wt3 here.
I’m liking it a lot as well.
Doing low tier nightmare dungeons pretty easily, feel like I’m progressing well.
I get fenris crash every 10 minutes in non hatdcore mode.
I played hardcore and only fenris crash errored once every 1 hour.
I was playing solo and survived everytime.
I had a ticket blizzard answered saying all of my crashes were from a known bug with no eta to fix.
I crashed during a boss fight on my 59 necromancer and when I tried to reopen the game he was dead.
They won't refund my money or my character.
I Uninstaller and might play it if they fix the "known bug"
>people defending an always online single player game with a seasonal 10-25 USD battle pass and 15-25 USD costume packs
What the frick happened?
The game is terrible worthless trash that never should have been slopped out. I detest everything about it aside from the campaign story, which held my interest. After that, the game is nothing. That's the best way to sum it up: it is nothing.
To try to explain what I mean by nothing. It is trying to waste your time. The legendary affixes were the biggest frick you to players of ARPGs. This means they intend for you to look through every Yellow, either Sacred or Ancestral, and find the right stats you want. Instead, you're wasting your time because the only numbers with any real sizeable benefit are DPS and Armor which already have a red or green plus or minus sign next to them. The game is designed to waste your time with items, and if it's not items it's running the same dungeon over and over just to level up. A waste of everybody's time. I detest this video game and Blizzard themselves
ultimate chad here, I can blow $100 and not give a frick
the game is quite different from D3, anyone who keeps saying the opposite hasn't played it and is definitely a moron
i have to admit im really butthurt i cant refund it.
i finished the single player campaign once, and i never want to play it ever again.
i honestly didnt have fun for even 5 minutes throughout the whole playthrough.
everything in D4 is designed to be anti-fun, boring, or just waste my time.
>i hate the boring, lame-ass, "generator generator generator spender" gimmick. I hate it. its anti-fun bullshit.
>i hate the level scaling
>i hate the itemisation
>i hate the skill "tree". Its more like a skill twig. A few spells per class, with 2-3 +dmg perks. What the frick is this shit.
>i hate the lack of music
>i hate that there is a "communist-russia grey" filter put over the whole game. I just cant look at it for longer than 5 minutes without falling asleep.
i could go on and on and on, but i just want to even talk about this shit game anymore.
Im dissapointed, and pissed off.
Ill just uninstall it and replay D2R again.
This guy sums it up nicely. Thank you for being a good person
Don't worry Anon! It's a great starting place! Maybe in 5-7 years your $70 will be worth it! LOL.
If you get angry everytime you realize you are room temperature IQ moronic you'll live in constant stress. Time to just accept it.
almost everybody on my friends list on battle net already went back to play other games.
i finished D4 once and just the mere thought of replaying the game again with another charater is filling me with horror and dread.
no other game ever made me feel like that.
i am incapable of explaining it.
i just dont want to ever play.... no, SEE this fricking game ever again.
i cant refund it anymore, either.
i guess ill just leave a frustrated 0/10 review on metacritic and go play something else.
have fun with my 70 euro, blizzard.
hope you spend it better than i did.
uhh.... guys....
im playing it right now, and there's no music in the game?
im running around in total silence, sometime i hear a flute for like 1-3 seconds, and thats it.
is the music bugged or something?
where's the frickin' music?
Frickin' stupid ass frickin' zoomers. Looking at your frickin' iPhone while you think you're hot shit despite being 5'7"
im lvl 27 and i dont want to play this game anymore.
i hate everything about it.
what the frick was blizzard thinking with this?
I could design a better Diablo game on a paper napkin
Go ahead and create 5 unique items right now then. Let's hear your ideas.
>sorcerer wand
>adds lvl 1 whirlwind
how bout this.
Ok but first we need to make stats that are actually interesting and realistic, and you can choose where your points go
They literally have POE to pull good ideas from that will fit into their game.
1) Sorc Armor - Chilled enemies you kill explode dealing 5% of their life as damage
2) Boots - Cannot be slowed below your base movement speed
3) Gloves - Lifesteal is instant
4) Ring - 40% of damage is taken over time instead
5) Amulet - Close by enemies are vulnerable. You have vulnerable
>Chilled enemies you kill explode
This is already in D4, as a Sorc enchantment.
>Cannot be slowed below your base movement speed
This is already in D4 as the unstopable mechanic.
>Ring - 40% of damage is taken over time instead
This ring is literally in D4.
>Amulet - Close by enemies are vulnerable. You have vulnerable
There's both a close and a vulnerable mechanic in D4.
Looks like your ideas aren't that different from the D4's devs ideas.
>This is already in D4, as a Sorc enchantment.
And that is horrible. It should be on an item where different classes have access to it.
>This is already in D4 as the unstopable mechanic.
Should be on an item, that every class has access to.
>This is already in D4 as the unstopable mechanic.
Link the item.
>There's both a close and a vulnerable mechanic in D4.
Is there an item that applies vulnerable to close enemies?
>Looks like your ideas aren't that different from the D4's devs ideas.
The difference is, the developers wanted you to play a specific class/build to get those modifiers, which is moronic because now you are being forced to play pre-canned builds by the developers instead of creating your own.
Yo I got a Stone of Jordan, want to trade?
>The difference is, the developers wanted you to play a specific class/build to get those modifiers, which is moronic because now you are being forced to play pre-canned builds by the developers instead of creating your own.
Yes, this much is true. We don't disagree on that aspect. But it would be so incredibly easy for them to just shift some of these mechanics over onto unique items, that I have a hard time seeing them NOT doing that in the future. They have already dipped their toes in it a little bit with the glyphs, for example. The Exploit glyph for example provides vulnerable to specs that otherwise wouldn't be able to have it.
>that I have a hard time seeing them NOT doing that in the future
So these things dont exists but they COULD.
cope
Aspects, especially aspects that modify how your skill works like Druid's pulverize getting a shockwave should be on the skill tree.
Uniques should have modifiers that are very general instead of one specific skill, like the modifiers I mentioned above.
Glyphs should not be just damage multipliers. They should be build changing, like the pic related.
The problem I have is that I do not trust the diablo devs at all. How is it that you and I can agree that items being specific to a build sucks yet they couldn't see this during the multiple closed beta and open beta events that they had? And that their most pressing matter is Resistances being such a useless affix it might not as well even exist. And that it would take them until SEASON 2 to fix this shit.
>The problem I have is that I do not trust the diablo devs at all
Blizzard managed to turn D3 around in just 2 years and that game was in a 100x worse state at launch, than D4 is now at its launch. That's one of the main reasons why I am on a "let's wait and see" mode for now. Most of the things the bad things about D4 seem like they could be fixed fairly easily.
>And that it would take them until SEASON 2 to fix this shit
They have set themselves up in a really stupid position with the way they are developing things post-launch. They have 2 teams working in tandem to create seasonal content, so everything in S1+S2 was mostly done for launch, but then they need the go-ahead from a bunch of different branches and top heads at Blizzard, then they need to get certifications and approvals for consoles, then they need QA, etc. etc. and it's just a fricking mess. Hopefully they realize that this won't work at all if it means that they won't be able to make big changes until like 4-5 months after they are found.
>Blizzard managed to turn D3 around in just 2 years and that game was in a 100x worse state at launch, than D4 is now at its launch. That's one of the main reasons why I am on a "let's wait and see" mode for now. Most of the things the bad things about D4 seem like they could be fixed fairly easily.
It's good your optimistic. I really do hope that they manage to turn it around. What worries me most is that they cast such a wide net with D4 that they may not know which target audience to develop for.
>What worries me most is that they cast such a wide net with D4 that they may not know which target audience to develop for.
This is very true. It feels like Rod Ferguson wants the game to be ultra-casual and that's why we got marketing stuff that includes celebs like Megan Fox, Halsey, Chloe Grace Moretz, etc. to draw in the casuals, but then they also have XP rates that are so high post level 80 that makes it so the vast majority of "gamer dads" will not be able to get to level 100 before they have to restart again for the next season.
I despise them. It's just a game. But when we play a game we want depth. I play Diablo 2 to maximize a character and get the BiS. It's like a puzzle and normies are too braindead to figure out minmax puzzles
Yep. Plus they have very questionable design decision that feel like they don't have one coherent philosophy on what their game should feel like.
An example is the open world design. They designed the open world to be explored. Yet they are now adding a feature to skip the open world altogether by allowing nightmare dungeons to teleport you to them?
They have trade on rares since they seem to want to be able to have an economy, but they also put level requirements on there?
It just feels like there are multiple groups designing the game. I guess this was one advantage POE had with a small dev team. They were all on the same page on what their game wants to be.
>It just feels like there are multiple groups designing the game
That's unironically how it is. They have 2 separate teams working on seasonal content(2 seasons in tandem). Then they also have 2 expansions in development already, which could be just 1 additional team, or 2 additional separate teams. There could be up to 4 different teams working on D4 right now.
Was this taken from a Gaming website?
>they could have SO MUCH STUFF IN THE WORKS
>Was this taken from a Gaming website?
It was literally a criticism of how they are developing the game.
Blizzard didn't manage shit. D3 went from a monetized cartoon piece of shit to a mindless zoom and clear trashfest. It was so irredeemably broken from the outset that they couldn't do shit. Literal Facebook gays played D3, that was the demographic they went to.
You're clueless. Reaper of Souls made D3 into a pretty good game. If they had just had a few more endgame activities instead of only GRs + bounties, then it could have been really solid. It also didn't help that they literally had a skeleton crew of like 5 people on the game post-RoS to manage the seasons, because Bobby Kotick couldn't see any way to monetize the game anymore.
No, it was fricking awful and the beginning of the smartloot era. It's also when everyone on Facebook picked the game up and started playing adventure mode. It was a conscious shift to the normie market and the moment Blizzard abandoned ship fully on ever making another actual Diablo game.
>It should be on an item where different classes have access to it.
Explain why exactly you want total homogenization in the game.
The bottom line here about what you say about builds etc is this:
You have NEVER created an original build in PoE. You keep talking about limitation of builds etc when you have been given plenty of options in a game with infinitely more build customization and all you did was copy what someone else did. Why do you care about build variety and potential of experimentation when you are not going to actually make use of it?
>Explain why exactly you want total homogenization in the game.
Wtf does this shit even mean? You give player choice on their item stats and you let them decide whether or not they want to give up other desirable stat for unstoppable for example.
You don't give class/skill defining on the items. That's fricking moronic since you get the situation you are in now with D4. Where the base class skill feel so horrible to use until you drop a very specific aspect to your build.
>Wtf does this shit even mean?
You want all classes to have access to everything all other classes have access to. You want the game to be homogeneous.
The fact that you don't understand why this is a problem says a lot about how much you know about game design despite you babbling in this thread about game design.
PoE and Diablo are not designed the same way. Class homogenization in PoE works because it's designed in a certain way to make it work and make sense gameplay wise.
>A barb can't even fricking wear a shield in D4. In PoE, you can wear whatever you want or even make a fist build.
Further proof that you are clueless about game design.
Speak to the hand while the fist does the talking
“I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing."
>You want all classes to have access to everything all other classes have access to. You want the game to be homogeneous.
You are an MMO Black person moron. Giving classes a way to become unstoppable does not homogenize classes one bit.
There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole identity is being unstoppable.
There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole class identity is being able to leech life instantly.
There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole class identity is being able to explode a corpse.
You are just throwing out buzzwords from WoW to try and defend the dogshit item design in D4.
>PoE and Diablo are not designed the same way. Class homogenization in PoE works because it's designed in a certain way to make it work and make sense gameplay wise.
You're right. POE is designed to be an ARPG like D1 and D2. Diablo 4 is designed to be an MMO which is completely different from an ARPG.
>There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole identity is being unstoppable.
>There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole class identity is being able to leech life instantly.
Not identities.
>There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole class identity is being able to explode a corpse.
Identity that is in fact present in the game.
See? You are completely clueless about game design. So why do you keep talking about it?
>muh game design
>muh balance
Not that anon but no one gives a shit. It's not fun when you play a barb and can't pick up a shield or wear a staff for shits in order to try and make it work. Let the player actually play.
>Identity that is in fact present in the game.
A necromancer's corpse explosion is not even remotely the same as the affix I proposed. Like I said though, you are an MMOBlack person.
>A necromancer's corpse explosion is not even remotely the same as the affix
This is irrelevant though. Necromancer exploding/making use of corpses is part of its identity. You argued the opposite. You are wrong.
The moment you give that trait to the rest of the characters, the necromancer loses its identity. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
This is a bad game. The game does not work in a fun way. It's spam the same shit for shit rewards, with a bad system of doing dungeons to level up for shit gear that has no depth. Why oh why were charms removed? They added inventory management sort of survival horror element to the game. Your games are SHIT
You don't even understand it
I mean, you pretty much just described ARPGs. Also, charms were a shit mechanic
>Also, charms were a shit mechanic
No they weren't! You suck you little homosexual. Diablo 4 fricking sucks in every fricking way and people who paid $100 for this trash got shafted. People are right to be angry at Blizzard because they're incompetent. They're garbage
loving the seething and cope
You like shit games because you're a shit person. You are of the Devil. You are the enemy and not in a moral way in this case, but in a way of simply being. You are being an enemy to righteousness
Simply not one of the elect, nothing we can do about that
Go to Hell Bobby Kotick, you frickin' little fricker. You could've been. You people make me want to die because you change what truth is to suit your own evil agenda which is not right, and then you send out moronic paid drones to further the lie. It's a piece of shit that has incredible funding and stock market value. It's weird and disgusting. You need to die
I was agreeing with you brother please cease fire
You are moving the goalposts. Nothing you have said has anything to do with the ongoing discussion about identity so I'm going to assume you just realized you are categorically wrong and out of anything worth saying.
>Sounds like the fundamental design places restrictions on player freedom
If I play Gran Turismo and I want to race with a bike but the game doesn't offer me one, that's not the game limiting the player.
The problem is that you think every game has to be like PoE OR that you have a personal autistic vendetta against Blizzard.
Do you have a problem with Tochlight limiting the player freedom? Last Epoch limiting the player freedom? Grim Dawn limiting the player freedom? Titan's Quest limiting the player freedom?
It's clear that they went for a fluff type class design in which certain classes do certain things with some degree of homogenization (like everyone being able to apply vulnerable, all classes being able to be unstoppable, etc). If you don't realize this and have a problem with it that's entirely on you.
A class' identity doesn't come from a singular skill you mouthbreating moron. Are you fricking moronic?
Just because a necromancer has skills that lets them play with corpses, doesn't mean Diablo 2 has homogenous classes now that they gave a Barbarian the ability to search corpses for items.
Like wise being able to give classes a strong way to provide AOE that scales with MOB HP doesn't destroy a necromancer's class identity of playing with corpses. Unless of course your class design is so shit that your class' identities revolve around a single skill.
>A class' identity doesn't come from a singular skill you mouthbreating moron.
Nowhere I said this though.
>necromancer can corpse explode so you can't have any other classes having any sort of semblance of doing damage with an explosion!
Yeah, you sure didn't. If D4's class identity is so fragile, then maybe it was never an identity at all.
How do those games limit player freedom when they literally all have items that grant different skills? In D2 you can literally make a Werewolf Barb viable. You shouldn't talk if you literally have no understanding of the subject matter lmao. Big shill energy.
>The moment you give that trait to the rest of the characters, the necromancer loses its identity. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
I don't agree. It was cool in Diablo 2 when certain items gave charges or even entire skills to different classes. Making an off meta bear sorc is cool.
>There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole identity is being unstoppable.
You are describing Barbarians. They literally have 2-3 different spammable skills that give them the mechanic that is straight up called "unstoppable".
>There is no class in Diablo 4 whose whole class identity is being able to explode a corpse.
This is literally Necromancer.
>You are describing Barbarians. They literally have 2-3 different spammable skills that give them the mechanic that is straight up called "unstoppable".
>The barbarian's identity is their arsenal, being able to wield multiple weapon sets, not their ability to become unstoppable.
You are moronic. Please don't respond to me again with you
>This is literally Necromancer.
Like I said, you are a moron
>I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S UNSTOPPABLE
>okay, there's a class that gets 2-3 spells that are spammable that literally gives you the unstoppable mechanic, meaning you can be unstoppable 24/7
>NOOOOOOOO, IT'S NOT IN THE CLASS DESCRIPTION, SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
Holy frick, you must have some severe autism.
>>This is irrelevant though.
It is absolutely relevant you fricking mongrel. Do you think that because the Sorc class has Ice armor that the sorc's class identity is being able to absorb damage? Are you fricking braindead?
You are a fricking moron if you think being unstoppable is a class identity when they have an aspect that grants it under a conditional.
>You are a fricking moron
That's rich coming from a guy who is unironically seething on Ganker's Ganker board because he's upset about "class identity" in a video game.
>That's rich coming from a guy who is unironically seething on Ganker's Ganker board because he's upset about "class identity" in a video game.
Learn to follow conversations moron. Because I'm not the one shouting about class identities.
>Do you think that because the Sorc class has Ice armor that the sorc's class identity is being able to absorb damage?
No but it's patently clear that the freeze status is part of the class identity of the sorc so allowed all other classes to casually be able to mass freeze enemies dilutes class identity.
Again, not a hard concept to grasp.
>No but it's patently clear that the freeze status is part of the class identity of the sorc so allowed all other classes to casually be able to mass freeze enemies dilutes class identity.
>Status effect
>Class Identity
Just when I thought someone couldn't be more moronic lol.
>Status effect
>Class Identity
Let me see
>No other class can do it
>Many different effects, passive effects, bonuses, etc depend or change based on the enemy being frozen or chilled and/or apply the effect
Correct, the frozen effect is central to cold sorcerers which means it's part of the identity of the class.
If you base your class identity on a single status effect, your game is absolute GARBAGE.
>immediately starts moving the goalposts
You lost.
>Y-You lost! I've proven that D4 has shit class design.
I sure did. LOL.
You lost the argument man. It's that simple.
You shouldn't talk about game design or identity when it's crystal clear you have not even the slightest idea about it.
Freeze and Stun are functionally the same. Does this mean that if I have a character that can stun that Sorc has now lost it's class identity?
What if I play a fire sorc who doesn't freeze? Does this mean I've lost the class identity of the Sorc?
But sure, I lost the argument though LOL!
>Freeze and Stun are functionally the same
They are not because chill is part of the effect and plays a role but for the sake of the argument lets say they are.
>Does this mean that if I have a character that can stun that Sorc has now lost it's class identity?
No because the sorc needs the freeze status not the stun status. She can still stun on top of freezing and the sources to apply chill and status are limited to a certain number of abilities and/or items. Just because it has the "same effect" doesn't mean much.
>What if I play a fire sorc who doesn't freeze?
Geez, you are not even reading, are you?
>Correct, the frozen effect is central to cold sorcerers
>still trying to prove that a status effect is a class identity.
horrible design.
>If you base your class identity on a single status effect, your game is absolute GARBAGE.
Keep digging lmao.
Which class identity it is again to use CI?
All of them because everyone can go CI.
Therefor, by your own logic, ALL classes are garbage in PoE because if they pick CI they base their entire gameplay and identity around it.
CI is not an identity. Ci is a defensive tool. This is like saying Armor is a class identity.
>CI is not an identity
you are unironically arguing now that CI doesn't change your characters entire identity LOL
>Ci is a defensive tool
So is a shield.
>you are unironically arguing now that CI doesn't change your characters entire identity LOL
Yes. For example, I choose a Deadeye ascendancy whose whole identity revolves around projectiles. If I take CI, my projectiles are still as strong as ever.
If I take Necromancer ascendancy and I take CI node, I still have strong minions. I don't lose class identity because I chose Energy shield to be my defense of choice.
I know this is mind blowing for a braindead D4Black person, that defenses can go beyond armor and flat mitigation. I mean D4 doesn't even have it's resistances in order.
I remember experimenting with this Node and using Incandescent Heart to try to theorycraft. Good times. Those people actually understand the depth of ARPGs
Imagine actual build changing keystones like this on the paragon board. Instead you get this. Rough.
It SUCKS. It's fricking awful. You can't describe it. It's so simple and annoying that it hurts the brain
How do you fricking morons look at necromancer, think "corpse explosion is its "class identity"" and not realize that thats complete garbage? Thats what "homogeneity" actually is, no matter how many distinct classes you introduce theres no good way to play necro that doesnt involve putting corpse explosion on your bar, and the whole corpse mechanic is simplistic trash with no depth or flexibility. I am not suggesting every class should be able to interact with corpses the way that other guy maybe is, but there should be many ways to interact with them that are decent - instead summons are useless (and use corpses in a superficial and pointless way) and you either use corpse explosion or ignore the corpse mechanic. Stupid design - I don't care about buzzwords like "class identity", whether its the necromancers "identity" or not it fricking sucks
You just spam corpse explosion. That's the whole game. Come on guys the game is shit. You can't fix it. It's OVER. Literally every single thing about this game is broken for normie morons who will never play this game.
OK, then explain how and why the premise of a Barb using a shield in D4 is bad. I'll wait.
>explain how and why the premise of a Barb using a shield in D4 is bad
Because it's designed to be some kind of berserker that prioritizes an "all-in" damage approach. This is blatantly obvious.
Sounds like the fundamental design places restrictions on player freedom, IE sounds like dogshit garbage fundamental design. But that's the intention, because player freedom = more work on itemization.
Can you even explain why homogeneity is a bad thing in ARPGs
what is bad about letting you build around with all of the games systems o great understander of game design
>Can you even explain why homogeneity is a bad thing in ARPGs
This is a non argument. It destroys class identity.
Can you explain why is it good?
>dodges my question
I accept your concession
I clearly answered the question though.
Seeing as you didn't answer mine I'll assume you are projecting and accept your concession.
>no u
sad
what is bad about letting you build around with all of the games systems o great understander of game design
Respond to this you coward
also just to humor you
>OH NO A BARB CAN USE A SHIELD THE CLASS IDENTITY IS DESTROYED!!!!!!!!
Its a dumb fricking premise and bad game design that simple things like an effect status or weapon type being a global use just absolutely destroys an identity of a class
>OH NO A BARB CAN USE A SHIELD THE CLASS IDENTITY IS DESTROYED!!!!!!!!
Correct. Glad to see you are now understanding it.
Class identity should be on how a class interacts with different subsystems in an ARPG not just locking off weapon types because "uh muh identity"
>Class identity should be on how a class interacts with different subsystems
Correct. And the barba doesn't interact with the subsystem that is shield so you have to build your barb around lacking access to that option.
See? It's that simple.
>not interacting is interacting
what are these fricking mental gymnastics lmao
>not interacting is interacting
Correct. If you pick Chaos Innoculation in PoE you no longer interact with hp.
The more people post in these thread the more obvious how little do they know about game design. It's astonishing.
You dumb frick you ARE interacting with HP by limiting it to 1 for a buff and build your character around that
What buff do you get in D4 for not using shields with barb... oh wait that was never an option in the first place
The more (You) post in these thread the more obvious how little do (You) know about game design. It's astonishing.
Uh oh people are starting to think about stuff, and building a character and thinking and stuff. Blizzard can't have that!
>You dumb frick you ARE interacting with HP by limiting it to 1
So you are interacting with shield by limiting them to 0.
You have no argument left man, the last couple posts have unarguably showed me that you have absolutely no idea about what you are talking about.
>So you are interacting with shield by limiting them to 0.
Again I ask, what buff do you get by taking the OPTION of not using a shield like how CI works ill wait for your cope
>what buff do you get by taking the OPTION of not using a shield
Carrying 4 weapons. Next question.
You know even if you go CI, the lenght of your status effects are still based off your max HP right? That actual value, not the one set to 1.
So you still have to intereact/build around your max hp or you get status immunities, which now leads to more interesting itemization choice ont he rest of your gear slots.
>you still have to intereact/build around your max hp
Show me one build that goes CI and actually spend points on HP nodes or builds specifically builds HP. I'll wait.
A barb can't even fricking wear a shield in D4. In PoE, you can wear whatever you want or even make a fist build.
I couldn't finish the story. Got to lvl 40 then stopped. Is it just me?
Granted I had a lot of lag issues but the experience wasn't that enjoyable to me.
the story was shit and the gameplay is nothing but monotonous. you did fine.
You know how people loved Diablo 2 and would grind the same areas over and over again for better loot? Why does Blizzard come on here and try to change it? Why do they try to like change what people liked? Is it arrogance?
if this trash was actually developed for PC it would have had a chance, but it was 100% designed for console. the engine is literal trash, you can see the saturday morning cartoon through the literal cartoon filter.
also, reminder that this game literally designed for children and chinese minds was developed by women and morons. the director was the dude from like gears of war 3. they brought the dude in who did creative for the Witcher and just fought with him the entire time and didn't let him do anything. no wonder it's soulless corporate garbage.
s to spit and shit
Holy frick
>it would have had a chance
It's a nublizzard game, it never had any chance.
To be honest, an angel in a fricking wheelchair does not belong in Diablo just like a dragon in a wheelchair doesn't belong in wow and I'm glad these moronic ideas were scrapped. How do these people have careers?
>an angel in a fricking wheelchair does not belong in Diablo
It's as "unfitting" as Marius in a fairly modern Sanitarium.
No shit. The fact that it was even considered as a plot point is fricking moronic and stupid. Somebody probably thought "HANDICAPPED INCLUSION" and ran with it. The story was clearly stemming from/concluded by morons with single digit IQ. I'm sure Stepien just decided to fricking cash his checks and give up by the end of it.
These big corpo game companies seem to be populated by people through nepotism now, and/or being willing to suck and frick suits.
Did you miss the part where he goes "Wait, I'm not handicapped at all!" or something? Did you get mad at SMT3 Lucifer? "The guy in a wheelchair stands up and is a badass" is an old ass cliche.
I didn't play that shit and don't know what the frick you're ranting about. The story started off moronic as a motherfricker and got even more moronic when women and manchildren took it over. Are you missing the entire point somehow? The fricking critical reading capability of Ganker has gone down the toilet.
>I didn't play that shit and don't know what the frick you're ranting about.
I'm talking about the image you're replying to, you fricking idiot.
>former employee says
And if anything, that image proves that they did what was good for the game not the opposite. Wheelchair angel? The frick.
If you don't understand how cool and/or funny an angel realizing he's not crippled and has just been a huge crybaby is, you shouldn't critique the arts.
Not really? It proves that a literal turd got polished by fricking gender activist morons. It's like taking a large piece of shit and then throwing up all over it, and calling it improved. Diablo 4 in a nutshell.
if it was just a reskin of diablo 3 it might be a lot more fun
as it is, it's pretty shit and shallow
what else is there to do other than nightmare dungeons or whatever? greater rifts or however they were called are the same thing but way better since it's not using the same 5 tiles
>build shit game with huge graphic fidelity
>can't just have tiles meld into each other anymore and have to hand place them/touch them up
>no procedural generated dungeons = boring in the first few dungeons
>the WORST BUILD DIVERSITY in a diablo game
>can't redo cutscenes, side quests or dialogue
>dozens of cut up portions on the map ruining what little 'mmo world' you built
>constantly getting stuck because Black person zones don't let you leave without connecting to the new one like it's a different server/map
what a joke man, they won't fix it and it's even worse than diablo 3
When I go into PoE immediately I see a global chat. Why do I not see a Global chat in Diablo 4? Because it's built for console gays who don't even play these games
Your Paladin can now Teleport
Want to buy it? I need some stuff for my Druid
You need this for the casting breakpoint? Lightning Sorc?
BiS for magic find. You'll find what you need faster with these in at the cost of some damage, but it's still pretty efficient
>Diablo 2
Shit game
>every other website including reddit shits on this game
>Ganker loves it
Truly the most contrarian place
You need a BiS shield? I got you. This thing will make your damage skyrocket and it looks pretty cool too. You'll feel awesome with it. I made it out of runes I found. It'll help you max out your Holy Shield block chance
I meant to post Spirit
Remember to reach those casting breakpoints so you always have max DPS. The casting breakpoints are what's more important than skill levels
>D4 devs can't even make resistances work properly
It really is over isn't it?
It was over when David Brevik left and nuBlizzard tried to do what they could not. They hire for people who are personable I'm sure. It's not about being able to reduce glitches. It's about understanding the depth of ARPGs, and they do not understand it. They are incompetent
Your D2 character build is like putting together a puzzle, micromanaging charms, items, runes and runewords, and everything else. You may need some small charms for resistances to help you reach the max 75. It's pretty cool when you feel like you maxed it out. You definitely feel powerful and unstoppable. It seems to be better than the unstoppable perk from D4
honestly all the game did is give me the itch to reinstall poe and for that I curse it to the depths of hell because I dont have time to get back on that train
>Give Blizzard 200 dollars with cosmetics on top
>b***h about the state of the game
You morons will never learn. They aren't going to change shit when you give them more money with every subsequent release.
I only open those threads out of sheer curiosity, I wonder if it's a bunch of zoomers playing D3/D4 and still wasting their money with blizzard, or if people really just buy anything AAA out there, last AAA game I ever bought was Sekiro and Elden Ring like everyone else, and if you remove From Software from my list, the last one was probably in 2007, I have no idea how you guys still play all those garbage games
I was happy with RDR2 but that's about it really.
Not my kind of game, but I hope you enjoyed it anon.
Diablo 3 was an MMO?
>Chloe Grace Moretz pauses
W-what is this? What does this mean?
I'll play it as soon as they drop the price to £10-15.
Otherwise I'll just keep playing seasons of D3 and PoE.
Druid "class design":
Builds that arent functional without greatstaff of the crone
Buildes that arent functional without tempest roar
Bear pulverize that never changes from the moment you get the shockwave aspect to level 100
On the one hand you need one or more specific unique items to play a build at all, on the other you dont need shit but the build never evolves in a meaningful way. Actual game design is somewhere between these two extremes and at least for the Druid class they completely failed.
>at least for the Druid class they completely failed.
Don't worry, they failed for every other class too. Aspects like that should've been put on the shitty skill tree that they have.
This game sucks on so many lvls
>all the connection/loading problems
>VERY poor build variety
>shit itemization
>shit dungeon randomization (almost no fricking assets)
>ugly unlikable characters
>woke new age propaganda on every step
>crap ost
I cant think of a single thing that I liked in this game
It's fricking AWFUL. It's made as an insult to everything that is good! It is BUILT with the sole purpose of windwarping old players who were more right-wing in thought. It is built to HUMILIATE them. I'm not joking you. They made it terrible in every single way simply because they have the money and funding.
>animeposter thinks anyone gives a flying frick about his opinions
Go jerk off to e-girl hentai again, you demented social reject.
ching chong ping pong doggy yummy yummy
Heeheeheehee Blizzdrones sit in their little corner laughing
You stupid frickin' israelite
SCUM
Damage Vs CC
Damage Vs Chilled
Damage Vs Close
Damage Vs Distant
Damage Vs Frozen
Damage Vs Healthy
Damage Vs Injured
Damage Vs Slowed
Damage Vs Stunned
Damage while Healthy
Damage while Fortified
Damage with Basic
Damage with Blood
Damage with Bone
Damage with Core
Damage with Darkness
Damage with Minions
Damage with Physical
Damage with Shadow
Damage with Shadow DoT
Damage from Golem
Damage from Blood Orb
Damage from Mages
Damage from Warriors
Critical Strike Chance vs Injured
Critical Strike Damage vs CC
Critical Strike Damage vs Vulnerable
Critical Strike Damage with Blood
Critical Strike Damage with Bone
Critical Strike Damage with Core
Critical Strike Damage with Shadow
Extra Damage after dodging
Extra movement speed on killing elites
Who thought these were a good idea?
They could have made Diablo 4 into a great game. They casualized it and removed everything from the past games. It's a barebones trainwreck with no purpose. There's no reason to get to 100 and kill anything or do anything. When you load into a Nightmare Dungeon, why are you doing that? What are you going to find? Anything practically. The First Season will tell you all you need to know. No Leaderboard? Doesn't matter what you do. No trading? Doesn't matter what you find. It's a pointless reset that has absolutely no purpose. It's hilarious how much they're humiliating the players.
You know what's also pointless? Going into threads about games that you don't like and/or already quit and don't intend on playing again, just so you can cry about the game instead of just moving on with your life.
Boohoo Blizzdrone. God will make your company suffer. You are nothing because you conjured nothing
The thread is literally ABOUT how the game is shit moron. What's sad is entering a thread that isn't even intended for you to whiteknight a fricking video game.
Why do you feel the incessant and desperate need to whine and cry about a game that you don't like and that you're not going to play again? Just move on with your life. Are you mentally ill or something?
>why does a consumer feel the need to educate the public on a shit product?
>why does anyone critique anything for that matter?
>equating critiquing corporate garbage to "whining" and "crying"
You sound moronic assuming the high ground in a joke of a way when you're on a website shilling a corporate product for free.
>Why do you feel the incessant and desperate need to whine and cry about a game that you don't like and that you're not going to play again?
People are mad that they're dumb and wasted their money. Lots of anons use Ganker to rant and blow off steam.
Anyone talking about amount of content does not understand ARPGs.
Idk, the guy who claimed to have played 90% of ARPGs ever made said there is 200 hours of content. But you are right, he doesn't seem to be very wise.
I am right here. D4 does have 200 hours of content, but if YOU were actually into ARPGs, you'd know that this wasn't a compliment. It's actually on the lower side for an ARPG.
You don't even understand what you are talking about. Any game can be replayed over and over for thousands of hours. That isn't reflective of it's content quantity. That's like saying Slay the Spire has 1000 hours of content.
>Any game can be replayed over and over for thousands of hours
Holy shit, you are actually braindead. My point was that once you have played D4 for 200 hours, you have seen literally everything and completed 100% of the game and then there's no reason to replay anything in the game again, other than if you want to do the exact same thing with a different class.
So you would never see the same location twice in 200 hours? I highly doubt that
>So you would never see the same location twice in 200 hours? I highly doubt that
What the frick are you babbling about? Are you a schizophrenic?
You are saying it takes 200 hours to see everything, but you see 99% of it in 30 hours then 1% at the 200th hour. It's asinine.
Let's post examples of actual good itemization.
Idk what Omniscence means but it's beautiful.
>+stat
>%penetration
sick itemization