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wow Rimworld is a shit game, who could have guessed?
this thread is a fricking treat
one of the reasons I browse this shithole of a website is to watch pathetic clowns shit out paragraphs of water with no proof or argument just to save face
thread should've ended here but im sure as frick aint complaining
why do people always say "thread should have ended here" when it clearly won't and the post in question was meant to bait for more replies
because it's a shit thread that should've died at page 10 with zero replies
I sure as hell would've replied to it if not for all the clown fiesta happening
It's alright with mods.
this war of mine had a similar problem, if the npc is too sad or whatever he will refuse to do anything to ensure his survival. Shit's moronic, makes me wonder if these devs ever had a single bad day in their lives.
>makes me wonder if these devs ever had a single bad day in their lives.
You think a mental breakdown being trapped on a warfront is the same as "Having a bad day"?
Seriously?
i got killed by 2 manhunting bunnies, because my pawn had sad wandering.
>"it's for the realism"
Are we fricking talking about Rimword or This War of Mine, you moron?
Rimword is clearly, very deliberately silly. But you just compared character in This War of Mine who lost his will to live to "having a bad day", and that is pretty fricking hilarious.
this.
you have to be mentally insane to think "oh, I'm unhappy for a week, I'm going to rape and destroy the colony"
if anything one insane moron kills himself but terrorism in a post-apocalyptic setting is anything but realistic...
I think being trapped on a warfront won't stop you from taking the necessary action to survive.
Then you do not know anything about life, because you have been perfectly sheltered from any form of real adversity your whole life.
>This is what manic depressives actually believe
Lol. Lmao
>look how SAD I can be
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
>incel attempts to lecture people on life
Do you think anyone reading your post isn't laughing right now?
Thank you for proving my point, kids.
AKSHULLY, IF I WAS A CIVILIAN TRAPPED AT FRONTLINE OF A SEREBIA-LIKE CIVIL WAR, I WOULD TOTALLY ROCK MAN! I'M COOL, I TOTALLY DID FINE EVEN THOUGH MY MOM DID NOT BUY ME MY FAVORITE CEREAL, I'M SURE I'D BE COMPLETELY FINE!
Sure thing, kids, sure thing.
>le strawman when called out for being moronic
yare-yare
Let me ask you as simple question: How many war victims and war refugees have you talked to in your life?
I don't think you get to call other "pretentious" when you claim that you would totally do perfectly fine in such a situation. Especially since the most direct experience with war you have is watching Avengers: Civil War.
>when you claim
The one you replied to was my first post in this thread
>that you would totally do perfectly fine in such a situation
No one in this thread claimed that. Just that letting yourself get slowly killed because "muh sad" is moronic.
And now you start crying about your """lived experience""", take it to twitter you humongous homosexual.
>not immediately giving up and letting yourself get slowly killed by papercuts = being le internet tough guy
what a pretentious homosexual you are
being stressed will literally never override the feeling of actual pain, and this pawn presumably has been in fights before if he has armor and a gun so it's not like killing the prisoner would be something unimaginable to him.
Again, we were talking about This War of Mine. Rimword is a silly game by design. Not to mention, this isn't about being simply stressed, it's about the character going through a complete breakdown.
I've seen people with severe treatment resistant depression, such as triggered by PTS, that were literally unable to get up to take a piss. These people had at times incredibly painful sores and bedsores, that were never the less not being addressed until the paramedics literally drag them up.
I have a friend who works as a physiotherapeut at a severe depression ward, her job is to check patients who are unable to prevent developing them, exercising with them the same way you would do with an immobile elderly or a spine injury patient.
So this shit IS very real. RImworld may be silly in presentation, again by design, but pretending that severe trauma, mental breakdown, depression, all of which can and do develop as a result of extremely stressful or otherwise horrifying living condition, aren't a real problem, is a joke.
didn't read
have sex
I accept your concession.
Nah, kid: I just asked you a basic question. The fact that you are too afraid to answer it proves me right.
Kid, you have nowhere near the rhetorical skills to deceive people into believing your homosexual questions are anything but a distraction. Continue crying about being a b***h, maybe your mom will hear you and give you ice cream.
Once again: Afraid to admit that the number is actually ZERO. I'm not the one crying here, I'm having fun at your expense, as you continue to make idiotic claims about stuff you have absolutely NO WAY OF UNDERSTANDING, while desperately trying to get away from a simple, basic test of "do you know anything about it."
You have never talked to anyone who experiened war. You have never studied this subject either. You simply are talking out of your ass about subjects you don't understand.
And your fear to even admit that you have no experience on this subject further proves that you KNOW this to be true, and you actually do hate yourself for it to a point where you delude yourself into thinking you have any way out of this discussion.
I've worked with severely mentally ill people. And I've coordinated psychological and social help for war refugees. Living in a country with 2nd biggest influx of refugees from Ukraine, I most recently did this two months ago.
What experience do you have, kid?
Do you not know what the word "Irony" means?
I'm not even ESL, but I have traveled the world, and I can assure you:
Only people who get offended by that - especially here where calling others "gays" is literally the normal form of addression - are insecure children, who absolutely hate being reminded of who they are.
Also, if you claim to be an english native speaker, how the frick have you never seen a bunch of peers literally summoning themselves up by saying shit like "Come on, Kids! Where should we go for that drink?
Because that shit is normal in english, as it is in all other languages in the world. Have you never been in an informal group of peers in your life?
I mean, this isn't that situation. I'm calling you a child because YOU ARE INSANELY IMMATURE, but this shit is a common form of addression.
Kid, you're literally a LARP'er, you don't know shit and no one is convinced otherwise.
Nah I can vouch for anon. Anyone who's seen sum shit knows he's 100% right.
>I'm not even ESL
>addression
>summoning themselves up
>"Where should we go for that drink"
>Come on, Kids! Where should we go for that drink?
no. thats not something people normally say to their adult peers, because referring to somebody as a child when they are not is an insult. its saying that theyre immature or stupid or even just inexperienced but regardless, that thereis a failing. you might just be autistic and unable to tell when people say things jokingly or when theyre serious. there is a huge difference between disparaging but jovial and simply saying something. and the post that started this entire "child" discussion was very very clearly an insult. you fricking jumped up self obsessed childish psude.
Anon, it's "pseud", not "psude".
frick a syntax error. my argument is null.
that's not syntax, that's spelling
why are you such a fail
stupid rubs off. i spend too much time here.
>syntax
>also assuming me pointing out your spelling error is meant to dismiss your post
Calm down there, buddy.
>no. thats not something people normally say to their adult peers, because referring to somebody as a child when they are not is an insult.
Not if you are not incredibly insecure about your own maturity, kid. I'm calling you a kid because every time you shit yourself for being called a child, you prove that you actually are a child.
Anon, you're rapidly approaching the point where calling English your second language would be an overstatement.
>its not an insult
>continues to use it as an insult
if not esl than just moronic. i can forgive ignorance but willfull stupidity is another matter.
>if not esl than just moronic.
It's only an insult to children in denial about their age, kid. Which is why I can use it as an insult to you, but it would not be an insult to an actual human.
go into town and start calling everyone kid and see how many people care vs not.
>old man working the register at your gas station
tell him "thanks kid" when you pay for something and tell us how he reacted.
at this point i feel like calling you an ESL is understating it. this is google translate tier, anon
>I'm smart, you're dumb
>I'm big, you're little
>I'm right, you're wrong
>and there's nothing you can do about it
Well, right now I'm having to explain american young teenagers that war isn't all just cool heroic kickass stuff, so... yeah.
If you need to be told that war isn't all fun and games, you are dumb. And relative to that, everyone else is smart.
This isn't rocket science.
please point to where someone said war is fun
take a screenshot of it
>american
i'm european and unlike you i have learned about what the frick my ancestors were up to
it was war pretty much all the fricking time
humanity is brutal beyond your comprehension and the fact you act like such a snobby brat confirms that you have no clue what we are capable of
you act offended and insulted at the prospect of anyone being able to act extremely violently in response to a threat, or even without a threat
guess what, it's really not all that hard
and i would bet all my belongings in a fight to the death with you, because i unironically understand what a proper stress response is and how i can use it. you stand no chance
>Flight or flight isn't real trust me I'm an expert
>Nobody cares about a life or death situation
>If someone was being literally being punched you'd have to be a badass like masterchef to do anything because fight or flight isn't real
Ok I think we can write you off as a college student taking their first semester of physiology. I hope the debt was worth becoming a complete fricking moronic tool.
don't remember subscribing to this blog
*unsubscribes*
Based and blackpilled. These zoomers have no clue what physical havoc true dispair can wreak on the human body and mind. Nevermind this is a game where you recruit literal brain-damaged 0 INT savages to basically do slave work on a wild dytopian planet.
Then why isn't suicide in the game? In a situation where somebody had a depressive mental break to the point they didn't want to continue living then they'd put a gun in their mouth and pull the trigger, not let themselves be slowly beaten to death over the course of hours because they just can't be assed to do anything about it. You can't take the "it's realistic" approach only half the time.
frick imagine how hard you'd seethe if one of your colonists suddenly blew his brains out
>implying i wouldn't intentionally stress out shitty pawns to the point they commit suicide
Also imagine having 'ritual suicide' be an option in religions, one of your pawns fricks up super hard and they're obligated to seppuku.
You have never suffered in your entire life.
He's literally suffering from an autism fit ITT.
Behold, the melodramatic homosexualS that write our games.
The kind if people who don't actually study anything but just watch movies and cartoons as references for human responses.
The people who don't understand that adrenaline will kick the frick in regardless of any mental breakdown. Because doctors, criminal psychologists, soldiers all understand that all humans in danger have 2 responses: flight or fight. Nobody could possibly be "too depressed" or "too stressed" to not react to a dangerous situation. whatever mood or stress you're dealing with will be superceded by your monkeys brain's natural desire for survival.
Depression is real, anxiety and stress and mental breakdowns are real. But so is raw response to danger.
If someone is being attacked their heartrate automatically jumps, they get tunnel vision, they see red. I don't care who you are. Nobody can ignore danger, especially when being attacked by another person.
The example in op is obviously a guy who is in an extremely stressful situation, but he's armed, he senses danger, whatever emotions he has wouldn't matter once he's actually being attacked in the moment. He wouldn't stand still and take a beating to the death for hours, especially if he's a guy with a gun. It's video game ludonarrative, something that can only exist in a video game because the developer coded people to act and behave the way he wanted. It's not accurate, but hacks like you who think you get psychology but never actually study it will treat this game as accurate.
Go read any textbook about danger. Fricking morons.
i'm not treating it as accurate. it's not a sim, it's a game mechanic
Go read the quoted posts, they weren't talking strictly about the game, they were posting arrogant smug replies acting like they knew everything about LE REAL human behaviour but ironically believing in Hollywood anime bullshit of, again, MELODRAMA.
The only time you see someone not react with fight or flight and just take a beating is in those ISIS execution videos. But those were people who were drugged, beaten relentlessly into submission and tortured. Those are the most extreme examples and yet you still see motherfrickers chained drugged and bruised trying to make an escape.
>will kick the frick in regardless of any mental breakdown. Because doctors, criminal psychologists, soldiers all understand that all humans in danger have 2 responses: flight or fight. Nobody could possibly be "too depressed" or "too stressed" to not react to a dangerous situation. whatever mood or stress you're dealing with will be superceded by your monkeys brain's natural desire for survival.
Ahahahaha JESUS FRICKING CHRIST KID, STOP.
SERIOUSLY.
HOW FRICKING OLD ARE YOU?
is this a bot?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA THIS FRICKING STUPID b***h TAKES 1 SEMESTER OF PSYCHOLOGY AND THINKS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.
HOE OLD ARE YOU XDD
XDD
SO DUMB OMG
SEETHING LITERALLY SEETHING. KT ARGUMENT LMAO
Having an anxiety attack is not the topic here. We're talking about how people react to DANGER and physical harm. I stand by my fricking statement because you have no argument. You seriously think someone suffering a mental breakdown will ignore danger while you reference scenarios where the person who is stunned with inaction isn't in danger. You'll keep referencing your real world examples of PTSD, stress, anxiety and so on, yet you keep refusing the acknowledge how people react to fight or flight. NOBODY is too depressed to react to a beating unless you're physically exhausted.
You homosexuals are so up your own ass. Go back to fricking tumblr where you jerk off to melodrama.
>We're talking about how people react to DANGER and physical harm. I stand by my fricking statement because you have no argument.
Do you think people don't get anxiety attacks when they are in a situation of actual real threat? Seriously? Is this the level of conversation we are having?
Your entire argument hinges on "fight or flight response means you'll always totally kick ass in a tense situation", without you even realizing that it is the fight or flight response that literally makes people completely freeze up and fail to respond adequately to the situation.
I don't think you ever been in a school yard fight, kid, much less have any clue what it is like to be faced with real challenges.
TLDR: You did not know what a fight or flight response is, you are the one with no argument here.
>school yard fight is actual challenge
ok this is bait or a really really really dumb person
>ok this is bait or a really really really dumb person
Are you actually functionally illiterate? I knew that you were absolutely moronic, but this is a whole new level of stupid.
What exactly do you think the words "Much less being faced with a real challenge" mean?
What the frick is wrong with you people? we go from "we are insecure children" to "I literally can't read!" in a span of half an hour.
How does one become this pathetic?
you're trying too hard, you need to take it slower
also you're talking to two different anons at this point. don't worry we both think you're moronic
>fight or flight response means you'll always totally kick ass in a tense situation
Are you so weak that a shove, kick or punch looks like kicking ass to you?
We're talking about the difference between curling up and getting killed by small animals, and putting up ANY amount of fight. Put heavy penalties on combat to show they're not in the right state to 'kick ass' as you say, but it's stupid as frick to just turn off any ability to respond.
>Are you so weak that a shove, kick or punch looks like kicking ass to you?
And we are back at this:
I literally said at the start all of you are doing nothing but talking about situations you cannot even begin to comprehend, but going for an
"AKSHUALLY IF IT WAS ME, I'D BE SO BAD ASS!" angle.
And you seem to not even fricking realize what is wrong with that. Which is just... beyond pathetic.
D'awww, aren't you a little edgie-wedgie lord! You totally understand the harshness of human situation. Yes you do! Yes you do! Mommy is going to be so proud of you!
Seriously, kid, if you don't fricking realize how insanely embarrassing is this to read, especially from someone who obviously never been to a fricking school fight, then there is not much else to say.
We really reached a point when this is just funny. You genuinely don't realize how fricking funny the shit you spew is.
Settle down, child, the adults are talking.
Just for the record: are you familiar with the concept of mirroring?
You do realize that just literally repeating what the other person said because it did hurt you, so you hope it will also work the other way around, is a behavior embarrassing even for a 10 years old, right?
Just wanted to check that.
Are you familiar with the concept of projection? You do realize that just pushing your faults on other people to make yourself look bigger is extremely obvious?
Try using your psych 101 on yourself and become something more than a childish pseud. See where you went wrong, and why everyone in the thread is laughing at you.
like i said, two different anons
and again, you're trying too hard
and also yes i would gladly take you on and smash your moronic face into the concrete until it was nothing more than pulp
>Only video game badasses fight back
So what you're saying is, a man armed with a gun would just sit still and take a beating Until he died because he's too upset or stressed out to react?
I can't take you seriously if you keep calling me kid. Seriously, you're trying so hard to appear like you have so much more authority and you refuse to acknowledge any other point. You can't argue without insults, and you act immature to anyone that replies to you. Nobody takes you seriously because you don't act like someone with authority, you act like someone who just happened to pick an arbitrary side and no wants to debate it until the thread dies and nobody replies. It's assinine.
>So what you're saying is, a man armed with a gun would just sit still and take a beating Until he died because he's too upset or stressed out to react?
For the last time kid, we were talking about two different examples: one being from an obviously silly, over-the-top game called Rimworld, the other being from a game based on research into real stories of Serebian war survival called This War of Mine.
And you are clearly taking me calling you a child VERY seriously, that is why you are throwing endless hissyfits about it.
Kid. You LITERALLY just copypasted my replies hoping that would work. What the frick are you doing?
>humanity is brutal beyond your comprehension
Says the kid who never talked to anyone who experienced war? Sure thing.
Seriously. Do you people have NO shame what so ever? I literally interview people who experienced war for living. Where the frick do you get the absurd, INSANE arrogance to claim that you totally understand the harshness of human condition?
Because you played cool shooters as videogames? You want to talk about brutality of war while you dismiss the accounts of those who experienced it.
What is this shit? How do you make a person this narcissistic?
There is a war going on right across my country's borders. I am PAID to do indepth interviews with people who just escaped it.
And you have the amazing audacity to tell me how I don't know anything about the reality of war.
How do you do that? How do you not have a nice day for saying something like this. Do you have NO shame, NO dignity what so ever?
>Flight or flight isn't real trust me I'm an expert
This is the second time you've proven to be unable to read basic English sentences, kid.
You have now graduated from being a dumb teenager to not have actually finished second grade yet.
I'm currious how much further will you fall. At this point, I expect you to just start saying "gu-gu, ga-ga!"
r*ddit moment
>words words words
>nothing of value actually said
Seriously, some self reflection is in order my dude.
Satisfied? Did you get your precious (you)s. Did you win the argument in your mind. Are you happy now. I hope it was worth posting for s few hours
I accept your concession. Next time, be a little smarter, have some dignity, save yourself this embarrassment.
You just spend the last two hours attracting attention to the fact that you think war is le epic cool thing, pissing yourself over being called children, unironically claiming that you understand war better than people who lived it, and not being able to read.
Hope you are proud of yourselves, kids.
I didn't concede anything, Infact I believe you just conceded because you attempted to end the argument. Thank you very much. moron
>KID KID KID KID KID
women behavior. touch grass homosexual.
go home and vent about it to your mom, we all know she's the only one left willing to still listen to you
If you're trying not to sound upset, you failed.
>oh no a war oh nooooo nooo i'm going insane a war is going on noooo ooooooh
i will literally kill other people when they threaten me on my life
it's just that easy
i know it for a fact, because i have more experience than you. you are like a toddler who believes they have all the keys but in reality you're just eating your own shit and you've convinced yourself it's a delicacy
the most pathetic being is you, and if a stray bullet or bomb hits you, the world will be better off
>it's just that easy
>i know it for a fact, because i have more experience than you.
Again.
I'm just going to let this hang there, because this proves my point better than anything I could ever say.
>people generally don't default to "suicidal apathy" when their lives are at risk
A whole bunch of things wrong here. Starting with the concept of "suicidal apathy", because that is actually an oxymoron.
Do you know why virtually all anti-depressants contain a warning that in the early stages of the treatment, there is an rather major INCREASE IN RISK OF SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR?
Suicide is an action. It requires will, determination. Apathy is the exact opposite of suicidal behavior. What you may mean is apathy resulting in lack of self-preservance. Which is a pretty different thing.
And because of that, your analogy, with jumpers, is completely nonsensical.
And I can assure you, apathy resulting in failure to take self-preserving actions is a VERY common problem in extemely poor condition environments in Africa.
Again. Human mind is more complicated than you people think. So are human responses to various forms of stress and poor living conditions. You are speaking from a position of someone who never HAD to actually confront crisis situations in his life. Everything you say is based on pure, vapid speculation from a perspective of someone who not only hasn't faced real adversity, but who's family three generation back didn't.
You have NO hands-on experiences. I have. I often wish I didn't.
Your speculation will never be worth anything, it is not supported by either education, or experience. And it is frankly kinda terrifying that you don't realize this.
Do you SERIOUSLY not feel that basic human instinct against speaking out of your ass about grave subjects?
Did seriously nobody teach you that talking out of your ass is a bad thing?
i question your sanity at this point
what are you trying to accomplish?
right now the only thing that is happening is you're convincing every single individual here that you're an actual 14 IQ walnut brain monkey man moron
Kids.
Your ENTIRE argument is "I have never seen a person who went through war, but I know for a fact that it's actually all cool and kick ass and I would be so amazing at it, and if you disagree you are dumb or a pussy!"
I should be asking what the frick are you trying to accomplish here.
Where the frick did you people crawl in. This board was bad, but never THIS fricking bad. This feels like a satire of humanity.
lol i'm clinically depressed and have deployed three times, killing people each time in firefights
stop larping as someone who has had to deal with any adversity
Yeah, because army does not have psychological screening for these things, and clinically diagnosed unstable people are routinely deployed.
Frick me really - how old are you? How the EVERLOVING FRICK did you think anyone can take this shit seriously?
They actually do, but I don't imagine you've done any research into the subject and are speaking from a position of moronation. They aren't routinely deployed, I just wanted to deploy (it's good money). And I'm old enough to be your dad.
>They actually do, but I don't imagine you've done any research into the subject and are speaking from a position of moronation. They aren't routinely deployed, I just wanted to deploy (it's good money). And I'm old enough to be your dad.
Do you... seriously not read what you type out?
That is just sad. Why respond when the only thing you achieve by that response is drawing more attention to the fact that you were wrong?
>t.
I do, I'm positive you can't comprehend a basic sentence though. I wish I was as moronic as you my man.
We have now confirmed that anime posters are multiple deployment-tier mentally broken chads who kill multiple people each deployment.
anime site
also cope
even like 15 years ago you could see /b/tards posting selfies from iraq and afghanistan.
Kid, you are SERIOUSLY trying to pull of the fricking navy seals copypasta right now while also claiming to be clinically depressed.
Fun fact, the term "clinical depression" means that the patient is deemed unable to control his mental condition without external help. Which means that in combat situation, where your constant readiness and long periods without access to constant medical care are absolutely paramouth, makes you a liability.
Which is why no civilized army allows people with this condition to serve at active warzones. Clinical depression means you are not reliable enough for such conditions. It's a legitimate, and common justification for relief from duty. But you will tell me how I don't understand these things, sure.
The only actually possible way your hilarious story about how you are a bad ass killed (because that is the shit you are trying to sell here, kid) while also suffering from clinical depression, is that you are keeping this health condition a SECRET from your officers, in which case you are actually commiting a fellony and are insanely, criminally irresponsible.
Of course, that is unless being a kid talking about how he totally understands war and how it's not a big deal but also understands depression and is also a stone cold killing mashine is all an act.
I wonder which one it may be.
morons truly have insane stamina
this is how i'm convinced this isn't a larper pretending to be an imbecile
this is truly a genuine specimen. homosexual moronicus.
Yeah. That really shows me about my point about what the medical definition of "clinical depression" is and why that proves your story about having served wrong.
Saying "homosexual moronicus" after being told the actual medical and legal ramifications of the terms you used, it's such an epic win for you!
God. Again. How do you live with yourself?
i have more wojacks saved to mock your moronic ass than you have braincells
btw not that other anon. the fact you can't differentiate between multiple people really says something about your mental state
>i have more wojacks saved to mock your moronic ass than you have braincells
I can't say I'm suprised that you mostly communicate through Wojack's, but I am absolutely amazed that you thought that would be somehow a point in your favor.
"I only and exclusively communicate in shitty meme pictures, HA I'M SO OWNING YOU!"
Makes your story about being an elite navy seal so much belivable, by the way.
I never pretended that I experienced anything comparable to the people are routinely interview. Not sure how that is an argument though.
but you don't realize how much you are getting owned
that's the entire appeal
>Kid, you are SERIOUSLY trying to pull of the fricking navy seals copypasta
I hope others appreciate the irony cuz I know you sure as frick don't.
Every big post you make where you call everyone who disagrees with you a kid reeks of WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU JUST FRICKING SAY ABOUT ME
>Every big post you make where you call everyone who disagrees with you a kid reeks of WHAT THE FRICK DID YOU JUST FRICKING SAY ABOUT ME
I don't think you understand how this works.
Someone genuinely trying to intimidate others by claiming how they are a bad-ass navy seal is what makes that copypasta funny.
Not simply identifying clear lies and stupidity in what others say.
This whole thread is literally people saying "there is no such thing as stress or trauma, and people who claim there is are pussies", while I shit you not, pretending to be both elite soldiers AND clinically depressed without even realizing that is a contradiction.
And you are fine with all that, that is according to you, sane and dignified response.
Saying - human reaction to stress is very complicated matter, war isn't all fun and games, and if you don't know that clinical depression is a condition that prevents you from frontline deployment - that is crossing the line, right?
Oh wait. It's the word "kid". The most horrible, abominable, heretical curse of all time, the word that makes the world stop turning, the end of all life, a curse that can NEVER BE FORGIVEN!!!!
Cool. Cool.
i have plenty
don't forget to make an appointment with your therapist if you manage to shut off your pc
See
And how exactly did you arrive to that conclusion? Given that I'm the one saying that human stress response is a complex thing, while everyone else says "nuh-uh, fight or flight means I'd totally always kick ass!"
Seriously, The whole discussion is about me trying to explain that the real world is a hell of a lot more complicated place.
So how EXACTLY did you come to the conclusion that it's me, and not the guy saying "When you are in threat, you JUST ACT, IT'S THAT SIMPLE!"
The line "It's that simple" has been repeated by every one of the other morons replying to me at least once.
And you accuse me of not understanding nuance.
How? Why?
>how? why?
his brain is melting
the cognitive dissonance is gonna tear the quantum foam soon
Looks like you finally drove him to an aneurism.
F
one more just to be sure
are you finally spent? has your hypothalamus calmed down finally? your autismo tardrage under control?
trust me i am a doctor and you should have this evaluated professionally
I have a lot more to say, but you seem to have given up completely.
The self-declared badass soldier is now down to the trusty old "I'm I annoying you! I'm I annoying you!" rethorical hit of 2nd grade elementary school.
I do understand that you cannot let go, and posting pictures you should be really embarrassed about collecting is the only "argument" you have left.
I am just still amazed how you live with yourself, this is the best you can do.
Surely, you can't walk away from this thread genuinely thinking "well everything I said was proven to be a childish lie, but I flooded the thread with annoying pictures, so I sure got out of that with my dignity intact."
You are going to live with yourself. Is this REALLY what you are satisfied to be?
I've told you multiple times now I'm not the anon who got deployed
You're literally talking to ghosts in your own mind
The impotent rage you generate really is a spectacle to behold from a psychological and sociological perspective
And you are still going. If you had any understanding of either psychology or sociology, you'd have much bigger things to worry about now.
You have the urge to "win" argument by being purely obnoxious. You think that is healthy, mature behavior? Just being a minor pest until the scary people go away?
Is that how you solve all your problems?
psychology and sociology are just the tip of the iceberg
ontology, epistemology, metaphysics, history, theology, mathematics, and computer engineering
but at some point you have to let go and enjoy the ride. and right now I am astonished at seeing your moronic ass fling their shit about like a toddler having a tantrum in the grocery store
please, continue the show
I just want to sum up the discussion in this thread.
It started with people saying that they don't understand how a person trapped in an active warzone of a brutal civil war for months could lose their will to live, claiming that "fight or fight response means I'd totally kick ass in their situation".
It continued with people unironically saying "anyone traumatized by a war is just a pussy, I would kick ass so much!"
It peaked with a person unironically claiming he is a super elite soldier with dozens of kills and many deployments because he fricking LOVES WAR, but he is also clinically depressed but that does not actually affect how much he kills and kicks ass!
And now we are at a point where somebody is using the fact that he autistically collects wojack pictures as a "gotcha" argument.
That is the actual summary of this thread. I don't think I've ever seen so much human refuge collecting in a single thread in my life.
Black person post one clip where someone is getting attacked and doesn’t have any initial resistance
>And how exactly did you arrive to that conclusion? Given that I'm the one saying that human stress response is a complex thing, while everyone else says "nuh-uh, fight or flight means I'd totally always kick ass!"
Because you're hyperbolizing to a ridiculous degree. No one is claiming to be epic war heroes who know all there is to know about trauma. That's an assertion you keep forcing.
No, I'm working with EXACTLY what these people said. Right down to "anyone traumatized by war is a pussy.", "look at those homosexuals who are weak and can't handle a little war", "I would totally kill you!" "I hope war breaks out so I can prove how much better I am than people like you!", "I will literally kill anyone when they threaten me, IT'S THAT SIMPLE!"
Here:
Check it out for yourself. I genuinely WISH those posts were a hyperbole.
unironically
Yes, those anons are being unreasonably inconsiderate of many factors, as internet tough guys do. However they're not any less unreasonable than the one trying to justify the idea that a person could be stressed to just the right level where they have enough composure to meander around a room in heavy armor while carrying a weapon, but would not react at all as an unarmed person slowly whittles away at their body for literal hours. There ARE degrees of trauma that could lead to behavior similar to that, for example depression could make one apathetic to a disease eating away at their body, but the scenario OP presents is, to put it bluntly, fricking moronic.
I don't know why I need to repeat SEVEN TIMES that this discussion started, and revolved, around the This War of Mine comment.
Rimworld is silly. It's a game that uses absurdity and comedy as part of the appeal. It has a storyteller literally called Randy Random. It has space capsules raining milk on the ground. It will be silly, the game is a cartoon creating deliberately over-the-top, silly takes on otherwise real world subjects.
That fact is not worth wasting time on.
What's it like living in a world without nuance, adult-kun?
>back to back posts
wew lad. Bet those hohols wished they met a vatnik instead of you.
>What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>t. What the frick did you just fricking say about me, you little b***h? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fricking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fricker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fricking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fricking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fricking dead, kiddo.
>talks about a bunch of things they don't know anything about
lol
lmao even
Suicide *mid battle* is exceptionally rare nowadays, and even back in WW2, and was typically the result of a hopeless situation. A soldier's PTSD usually shows up later, after the fact. And I doubt it would take the form of doing nothing while being physically assaulted for hours. That would make sense if they were in a coma. I don't think a guy in power armor being attacked by an unarmed nudist is particularly hopeless.
If anyone should be morbidly depressed it should be the naked prisoner, he's apparently been in Abu Ghraib if he's naked.
>A whole bunch of things wrong here. Starting with the concept of "suicidal apathy", because that is actually an oxymoron.
That is exactly what is occurring when a guy in power armor allows a naked man to beat him to death over several hours, with no resistance or even real reaction.
I'm not gonna bother reading the rest of your post, you're a frickin idiot and the first thing you say is semantics so you obviously have nothing of value to say. Don't reply to me again, I won't read it or respond. Good job typing up a buncha pointless nonsense, maybe you can post it on reddit or the steam forums to get some upvotes or awards.
Just stupid bullshit from the perpetually lazy and unmotivated to justify idiotic game mechanics, again, with 0 relevant IRL examples supporting this idiotic, alien behavior.
your girlfriend was awake and lucid while wearing heavy armor and being beaten for several hours? The post doesn't mention drug use.
>I'm not gonna bother reading the rest of your pos
You clearly haven't been reading my post at all. Which makes me wonder:
Why did you think you should respond to someone if you have no clue what that person said?
I actually know the answer to that, but I wonder if you do.
Yes she was, and quote says "drugged into a stupor" right there.
I'm talking about the OP post, which is the basis of this entire thread and our conversation
>Yes she was
thanks, another internet argument won
starving ethiopians and made up girlfriends
I thought "no one is talking about the op" but I can address the comment in the screenshot: It's just missing a lot of context. There's no info on the pawns stats or ailments, or if it's being forced to wear the power armor since it's the last pawn alive. What I do know from playing the game a lot is that it's very likely the pawn is strung out on drugs and suffering from multiple ailments since the player is whining about dying in the most pleb way that usually ends a lot new players.
Alright, then give me your address so I can shoot you in your stupid pseudo-intellectual face then.
>entire thread only exists because the dev is a tard and insisted his system is realistic
>try to defend how realistic it is
>at the same time say the game is supposed to be silly and unrealistic
>scream about everyone else being an ESL while insisting you're a respectable authority
Make up your mind about how you want to try and defend this dogshit, learn how to contain your autism, and try again.
>There is a war going on right across my country's borders. I am PAID to do indepth interviews with people who just escaped it.
So you have zero real experience and just talk to your betters? Have you EVER had to personally experience a life or death struggle? Do you know what committing to killing something to save your life feels like?
Bro I've watched videos of cartel hits and executions, I know exactly what life as a narco is like.
>So you have zero real experience and just talk to your betters?
Once again kid. You are literally just copy-pasting what I said, hoping that it will work the other way around.
How dumb are you?
I would point out how we were talking about a game whose tagline is literally "in war, not everyone is a soldier" but honestly, what is the point.
You guys are literally just raving here. Some would call it moving goalposts, going from civilians trapped in an active warfront, to highly trained solidiers, as a base of the argument, honestly, I don't think it deserves even that.
You are an idiot, I'm going to bet you were the person who thought saying "flight or fight response is what causes panic and anxiety strikes" translated to "denying flight or fight response exists."
This is starting to be just tiring.
>This is starting to be just tiring.
Round for applause to anon, everyone, he's finally had a moment of lucidity!
>What experience do you actually have
>S-shut up, dumb kid!
A teen who had to beat a feral dog to death can speak with more authority on the psychology of violence than you can.
It's pathetic.
>He isn't a soldier
okay, it makes a lot more sense that he walked around doing nothing while a nude man beat him to death with his fists through his power armor. Stupid, stupid, stupid fricking reasoning. It's dumb for me to assume the guy in power armor has training or experience, but it's totally sensible to assume he's a fresh off the boat potash maker who can't differentiate between bad dreams and getting punched in the face
>I'm going to bet you
take those words and shove em in your own mouth, along with a dick, homosexual. Stupid, stupid fricking person grasping at straws to rationalize a totally arbitrary mechanic and a completely nonsensical scenario that would basically never happen IRL.
>take those words and shove em in your own mouth, along with a dick, homosexual. Stupid, stupid fricking person grasping
Kid, you are losing control COMPLETELY over someone calling you a kid, but you claim that people dealing with the actual stress of an actual war are all pussies.
You are screeching in completely unhinged temper-tantrum at me for suggesting that you might not know much about dealing with stress.
I can't make this shit up. You can't handly an online discussion, that is too much stress for you to remain lucid, and your point is how trauma of a real war isn't a thing.
How do you destroy a human being this way?
he's still on it
You've spent ever argument in this thread seething by attacking the character of the people you're arguing against and not once have you given a logical defence to anything anybody is saying. Talking to you is a waste of time because you're taking shit from dwarf fortress and thinking it's accurate behavior. And you call us inexperienced. Take a fricking look at yourself lmao
Kid, at this point, we are dealing with people unable to understand what the words "much less" mean, kids inironically saying "well people traumatized by war are just pussies, if it was me, I'd be super kick ass!" and a literal school yard worth of kids crying because they were called "kids".
My argument is simple. You should not talk about subjects you have absolutely no way of understanding. Don't talk about flight or fight response if you did not know that anxiety attack is a manifestation of that exact response. Don't talk about war is actually easy and fine and everyone who ends up scarred is a pussy if you never even talked to a war survivor in your life.
Generally, don't talk at all, because there is no way you are not going to embarrass yourself, regardless of the subject.
>anxiety attack
don't you think a trained soldier or fighter of some sort would resort to violence if they were suddenly panicking, rather than *doing nothing* while getting smacked for 4 hours? No one has posted even a single real world example to back up this idiotic implementation of a sanity mechanic. Depression and suicidal ideation go out the window virtually 100% of the time in the short term when your life is suddenly in danger.
This Black person is so mad holy shit.
>will kick the frick in regardless of any mental breakdown. Because doctors, criminal psychologists, soldiers all understand that all humans in danger have 2 responses: flight or fight. Nobody could possibly be "too depressed" or "too stressed" to not react to a dangerous situation. whatever mood or stress you're dealing with will be superceded by your monkeys brain's natural desire for survival.
Ahahahaha JESUS FRICKING CHRIST KID, STOP.
SERIOUSLY.
HOW FRICKING OLD ARE YOU?
Well you homosexuals literally start pissing your pants everytime I mention my experience, but I worked in psychological crisis response team, and now I am heavily involved in psychological and social relief teams dealing with the massive influx of war victims happening in my country, being quite literally 400 km from a life war front.
Sure thing kid, keep pretending
Got to love this.
"Well what is YOUR experience?"
Here is my experience:
"NUH UH, NUUUUUH UHHHHHHHHHHH".
Oh yeah, and to expand on this hilarious post:
You must have at least SEEN a person with an anxiety attack in your life, right?
Well that, my dear sweet moronic child, is nothing more than "flight or fight" response in practice. Because the truth is, that fight or fight response can just as well absolutely paralyze a person, because brains are a very complicated issue.
But please, keep on makiing thinly veiled "well actually, if it was ME, I'd be super awesome and amazing dude!" posts.
And keep on being suprised why other people call you an absolute child.
>"Well what is YOUR experience?"
Didn't ask. kid.
>Having a depressive episode
>See an aggressive rabbit
>Have a panic attack and just sit around hyperventilating while it nibbles me to death
Many such cases!
Fricking moron.
lmaoooooo
even if you speak the truth (which you're not, shit larp) then all those homosexuals are weak for not being able to handle a little war
>noooo i was too busy going on tiktok to realise life is brutal nooo so much blood noooo i'm going insane
i hope war breaks out more so that people will remember how to be savage beasts again, and the homosexuals who are incapable get culled
>inb4 wow anon stop larping frick off homosexual
yea yea whatever
>then all those homosexuals are weak for not being able to handle a little war
Yeah, I think we really finally reached the crux of the matter here.
THIS is the actual core of your arguments. I'm just going to leave it here for any sane people to see and appreciate.
humanity has slaughtered each other wholesale by the hundreds of thousands
they marched in formation to their doom
men were trained to main, kill, and they raped and plundered entire cities
that's humanity
and now we've come to the point where our species has become so weak that most homosexuals go full tilt and insane because they felt a real stress response for the first time in their entire life
pathetic
>work in crisis response
>only see people in crisis
>this means everyone has a crisis
How many people go on with their lives instead of having a mental meltdown? 95%?
I can say that thinking about the what people experience at war is far different from actually experiencing it in person. You can't sympathize with something that isn't real, just as much as the gays that would argue that whacking it to cartoon isn't the same as committing real sexual abuse.
I know not every soldier comes home with PTSD, but you know that some do and no amount of justification can help these people. If your word is as true as you'd like to believe, there wouldn't be PTSD or Trauma victims
You're not them.
That poster never said PTSD and trauma aren't real.
People here respond without actually taking their time to read and understand eachother, and then complain about "the state of the board". What a mess.
This. Even the most suicidal person will jump to stop a rat from biting them.
How old are YOU? lmao
>How old are YOU? lmao
Gotta love the twitter tourists here, who thing posting "lmao" isn't completely embarrassing...
>soldiers all understand that all humans in danger have 2 responses: flight or fight.
It's "flight, fight or freeze", homosexual. Opinion discarded.
You freeze in the hopes of not being detected
After being detected and actively attacked, I don't think freeze is a good strategy
Doesn't change that humans do not have only two responses to danger. It didn't say "to physical trauma", it said "to danger".
women behavior
people generally don't default to "suicidal apathy" when their lives are at risk, that makes no fricking sense. Every jumper that survives says their first thought is immediately wishing they didn't jump. People starving in Africa aren't suicidal, they're desperate for their next meal and water source. Totally idiotic.
These are games built around survival and struggle made by people obsessed with fantasies of their own death that stay all day in bed because they're sad cuz they read a news article about a conservative winning an election or something
>Then you do not know anything about life, because you have been perfectly sheltered from any form of real adversity your whole life.
Rekt
Ganker destroyed
Zoomer btfo
you don't know anything about anything. sheltered homosexual
soldiers kill themselves all the time. would it be better if they just shot themselves in the head when they have a breakdown instead of just passively waiting to be killed?
Yes.
while i'm not disagreeing (i think it would be good), the people complaining about how breakdowns work in rimworld would seethe to the ends of the earth if they just instantly lost a character to suicide. the problem isn't "realism" the problem is "the game is too hard for me, that's bullshit rng, i hate when the game is unpredictable i just want to play a spreadsheet"
>would it be better if they just shot themselves in the head when they have a breakdown instead of just passively waiting to be killed?
Yes.
It would actually make sense and make you think "oh shit" and not "god damn it the game is practically bugging out".
See, it's not about making the game easier, it's about making it not look moronic.
Yeah, because suicide actually makes sense. How many soldiers let themselves get nibbled to death by rats despite being physically fit to stop them? Now how many soldiers just fricking shoot themselves because they can't take it anymore?
One is actually realistic, the other is moronic.
>Now how many soldiers just fricking shoot themselves because they can't take it anymore?
You really, REALLY have no clue what you are talking about, child.
Be grateful that you never had to learn about these kinds of things, but keep your fricking mouth shut when adults talk about them.
Those who fervently accuse others of being children are often children themselves.
This, whenever someone feels the need to insert "kid" or "child" in every post you can be sure it's some 16 year old trying really hard to sound old.
It will never stop amusing me how insanely insecure you are about people suggesting that you might be a tad immature.
Ever wondered why this makes you absolute lose any track of the conversation and literally start pissing yourself?
Fun fact: adults don't mind being called a "kid". It's even a regular form of informal addression among many, MANY adult people. Only children poorly but desperately trying to pretend they are adults do.
You freak out about being called a "child" because you immediately think "SHIT, THEY ARE ONTO ME!!!!"
>throws out a paragraph tirade over being accused of projection
every time
>It will never stop amusing me how insanely insecure you are
the irony of this post
>Fun fact: adults don't mind being called a "kid". It's even a regular form of informal addression among many, MANY adult people
idk if your esl or something but if somebody called you kid as an adult it was an insult. the very nicest way kid could ever be said to an adult is if youre a 20something year old rookie and your older and more experienced cohort says it to you. and even then hes still calling you new shit.
You have an incredibly childish idea about how humans react to extreme situations. That is why I call you a child. Because you act and talk like one. Get used to it, because that is going to happen a LOT MORE in your life.
It's okay anon, we're all anonymous here, you don't need to act tough.
You're over here arguing depression will allow you to get nibbled to death by squirrels
lol
lmao
take out mental breaks, and the happiness system loses its danger
who cares about real life? realism shouldn't be used as a justification or criticism of non-simulator games
Ever seen an Ethiopian kid getting eaten by flies, not doing anything about it? A hundred times perhaps?
its hot out
you are very freely imputing the fervor here.
which is ironically a very childlike trait, whose minds are wont to treat everything in a very binary way, without much gradiation.
>you are very freely imputing the fervor here
Try saying that again but in English this time.
Also, you feel the need to insert the word into your every post. That is fervor. Insistence. Repetition.
Only after war if they have mental issues but not in war, survival instincts are more powerful than your thinking part of the brain.
i have pictures from ukraine that prove you wrong
post 'em then
post 'em or bust kiddo
looks like a set of darwin awards to me
>Only after war if they have mental issues but not in war, survival instincts are more powerful than your thinking part of the brain.
Ever heard of shellshock?
actually that is kind of strange, last time I played rimworld I don't think suicide attempts were a possibility for mental breaks which is weird.
isn't it a shame that not every pawn in every game is a perfect as you?
you have autism
You triggered a lot of people but you're totally right. Even a suicidal person would immediately fight to stop a dog from eating them alive if one suddenly attacked them, they wouldn't just let it happen.
Anyone who says otherwise is free to link a liveleak video in which people just catatonically allow themselves to get eaten alive without a struggle, but you won't find one because it literally never happens.
The thing that's so outragious about this thread is that you can actually go to /gif/ right now and see several shitbull mauling videos where this exact thing happens, and there are multiple anons replying with "why dont they just gouge its eyes out or jab it in the butthole?" and "why doesn't someone just put their phone down and shoot the thing?" Like, this is a very common scenario that anyone with a healthy level of life experience has seen or heard about and it's bizarre that the nerds here are convinced that it isnt.
Bystander effect has nothing to do with that shit at all. Same for exhaustion. Depression won't prevent you from struggling. It doesn't happen.
depression is comorbid with all sorts of problems that would inhibit fighting back, physical and mental
>comorbid
lol fighting off a dog isn't a fricking comorbidity.
Anon the depression is just a debuff in a video game. The characters don't talk, are barely animated, and there's no real context as to why they're not fighting back besides what's in the battlelog (not pictured) and whatever larp you come up with in your head. Being too apathetic to fight back is something an anon hypothesized but it's not what actually happened in the game. There's multiple realistic scenarios why someone wouldn't fight back; the bystander effect is one of them as are the many other scenarios mentioned itt. If you think it's a bad mechanic, you're wrong but you can probably mod it out. If you think it doesn't simulate reality, you're just wrong.
Nothing you said explains how it is in any way realistic that a ptsd person wouldn't fight or flight when an animal attacks them personally. Bystander effect has nothing to do with this scenario. Nothing about it is realistic.
The developer just said it's realistic and didn't elaborate how. I'm not going to engage in the hypotheticals of the scenario because you haven't played the game, but what the dev said isn't technically wrong.
Tynan also said this, and he made all the women bisexual for "realism" too.
he's not wrong though
>I'm not going to engage in the hypotheticals
Your argument is literally an unproven hypothetical. The alternative hypothesis is that nothing is different to a normal person. It's actually up to you to prove that something changed, because Occam's razor is against you. That's how a hypothesis worked.
What? The OP never substantiated hus claim. The burden of proof never left him. Not fighting back in a fight is a thing that can realistically happen, and it's a perfectly fine mechanic.
When people have ptsd they don't just dissociate to the point that they ignore all outside stimulus. You need shell shock in the form of actual brain damage for that to happen.
It's very common for pawns in RimWorld to have brain damage, drug problems, and multiple crippling mental disorders, so the dev still isn't technically wrong. Play the game.
Yeah but that isn't what was happening in op's description.
>so the dev still isn't technically wrong.
Tynan is wrong about most of the shit he claims is "realistic".
>Play the game.
I have more hours than you.
The OPs pic lacks the context to rule that out. There's no screenshots of the battlelog or the pawn's character sheet. Play the game.
Holy cope
stfu morons
talk about videogames or get out
You're a lil late by 5 hours m8
You will never be a moderator.
>got no food
>kids arrive asking for handout
>tell them you can't help them
>have a nice day the next day because of it
yeah no it doesn't work like that
people fight through shit and then two years after everything is done with they develop mental health issues and maybe kill themselves
nobody breaks immediately like that
There's been plenty of cases around the world of someone making a big mistake then immediately killing themselves over it.
>that vid of the 2 black kids filming themselves with a gun until the girl accidentally shoots the boy, then panics and immediately grabs the dropped gun to shoot herself too.
They weren't in hand-to-mouth survival situations, they fricked up and feared retribution from the cops. Completely different scenarios. Are you autistic? Can you pass the Sally's Ball Test?
And nothing of value was lost
You can't even tell their genders. Blapipo don't have sexual dimorphism
and not having enough food in your shelter during a war and having to turn a pair of kids away is a "big mistake" ?
A war is a long drawn out mentally stressful situation which yes can lead people to depression, feeling hopelessness and ultimately suicide.
>can lead people to depression, feeling hopelessness and ultimately suicide.
If you're a pussy maybe
Once again, child: How many war victims have you talked to?
>Stop talking about this like you know something!
>What's my experience? Well, uh... just stop talking, child!
should i start posting pictures pictures of soldier suicides from the ongoing war in ukraine?
>being on the frontlines is fricking stressful, im going to start pacing around until I get myself killed
yes
that's how Saving Private Ryan ends
b***h I WAS IN AFGHAN FOR TWO TOURS
>You think a mental breakdown being trapped on a warfront is the same as "Having a bad day
If we saw you mopey and sad
you'd have the shit slapped out of you till you snapped out of it.
Frick your sadness and depression. You zoomers b***h about the tiniest things to avoid doing something as simple as making your bed.
Are you having one of those mental breakdowns right now? holy shit lol
Like fricking flies.
I'm not the exibit here, kid. It's your belief that if you post enough pictures no sane people would even admit saving, something will happen.
I'm not sure what you hope that will be. I mean, I will leave eventually, but you'll still have memories of what you are doing here.
You will still have to live with the fact that your only defense in the world is convincing people that you are so dumb, so childish, and so annoying, that you are just not worth the effort.
And yeah - that will work. But it still leaves you a being annoying moronic child, who only "wins" argument by everyone's pity for you turns into boredom.
You genuinely are interesting, from a psychological perspective. This is some top-tier coping system you have.
"posting wojacks obsessively until the bad thing goes away". Are you proud of your social aptitude?
>no u
the weakest of copes
the irony is off the charts
it's been off the charts for a while now, we must be nearing the singularity
Kid, the reason why you can't stop posting those is because you are hurt.
What I said, or maybe just what I represent, hurts you so back that you can't control yourself. You HAVE to get "back at me", you have to defend yourself from my presence.
But you don't have an argument, or a witty comeback, or anything.
All you have, your entire life achievement, is collecting cancerous reddit memes.
And that is why we are here, in this situation. You desperately throwing pictures that are far more embarrassing for you than they are for me, because you have nothing else to defend yourself, but you cannot stop trying to kick back.
How does it feel that I know all of that? How will you feel when I leave or this thread 404rd and this is all that you've managed to accomplish?
Make someone who already intimidated you be even more aware of your weakness. Is that what you want?
>if i repeat it enough times reality will be as i want it to be!!
you literally haven't progressed from the initial stages of human psychological development
you get triggered by the childish pictures which you so desperately don't want to mean anything
but the reality of the matter has already seeped deep in your subconscious
you are as moronic as any of these images depict
you hate what you are, so you hate being confronted with a picture depicting your essence
and i will keep posting them :^)
>you get triggered by the childish pictures which you so desperately don't want to mean anything
Nice wishful thinking kid, but if those pictures triggered me, I would be here, having fun triggering you to keep posting them, because it is literally the only thing you have in this life.
Your pictures don't depict anything. They are childish drawings designed to be mildly obnoxious.
You are the only one desperately wishing they meant something, to you or me, to justify you continuing this farce. You desperately dream that they hurt me as much as my presence hurts you.
In reality, they about as effective as ugly pictures on cigarette packs. They don't offend anyone anymore.
They just show me what you are left with.
>it doesn't do anything believe me believe me i'm not having a meltdown believe me!!!!
A melt down would me I would lose the ability to explain myself, and start acting completely irrationally.
Such as say - flooding the discussion with meaningless pictures, hoping that would somehow make you mad.
People having meltdowns don't carefully pick their opponents apart, kiddo. People having meltdowns do desperate shit, like you do.
the amount of time you spend writing and the amount of words you put out are proportional to how much you care
a simple calculation is enough to understand what's happening here
keep coping
>the amount of time you spend writing and the amount of words you put out are proportional to how much you care
I would not say that given the amount you spend on this discussion, not really saying anything, just desperately hoping the next picture would totally "break me".
This might be shocking to you, but I post here because I find the process entertaining. Especially when I get to watch something like you happen.
Do you SERIOUSLY try to convince yourself that your little strategy is working?
I would assume that the fact that I keep responding despite knowing you are autistic enough to keep posting these would indicate your strategy may not be working...
Or did you convince yourself that any form of a reply you get is a victory? Because man, that would be really fricking sad.
I come here to talk, because I enjoy that. You come here to desperately post meaningless pictures, because you can't stop yourself.
You are doing me a service, I have something to point at and laugh. That is why I'm still encouraging you to continue doing what you are doing.
pure, condensed autism
Yes, it really is. Imagine collecting this stuff.
Then imagine picking these pictures, one by one, every time, to absolutely no fricking point...
Fricking hell kid, you really didn't think this through, have you? Are you not aware that autism is typically manifested by illogical repetetive patterns of behavior? Such as endlessly posting the same shit like you do? What were you thinking with that reply?
>type "moron wojack" in google
here's the deal. this image explains to you the dynamic. you're the intj who thinks nobody knows what he's up to and that he's always 10 steps ahead of everyone.
I am the entp who understands that there are no steps to be taken.
you have already wrapped yourself in your own webs to such a massive degree nobody can save you anymore
everyone knows intj is a gigantic autist. that's the whole irony of the matter. we know. everyone knows. you're an autist, moronic, inept, the only one who can't see it is you
you will react to my usage of the image in a completely predictable way in order to attempt to "ensnare me" in some kind of psychological trick again, as you erroneously believe you have this capacity
you cannot win against someone who isn't playing a game. yet you are incapable of perceiving reality in any other way
i will literally sit here until you make this thread hit the bump limit if it comes to that, because i am a shitposting goblin and it is in my nature
but for you
oh no
this shit is serious
show me your social superiority, homosexual :^)
Wow, you are actually losing your cool now. I've gotta say, I genuinely believed that you are just an autist using these pics as a coping mechanism, and that you will keep posting them until I leave of the thread dies.
But your issues are clearly quite raw. Or perhaps, you realized that you enjoy this because even negative attention is still attention, and you are now at the risk of losing it.
Either way, it's still a pitiful sight. Do you enjoy humiliating yourself like this for the tiniest drip of attention?
I don't mind offering it, I just think nobody, not even you, should aspire to such desperate means to get people looking your way for a split second.
>he fell for it
Fell for what? The dastardly trick to make me reply, when I stated clearly that I'm enjoying this exchange? You sure got me there, kid!
I wonder if you even remember why you are so mad anymore... do you remember what this discussion was originally about?
>n-no! i enjoy this!! i enjooooooooooooy thiiiiiiis!!!!!
>*brap*
I take that as a "no". At this point you are just digging a hole, but you don't even know why.
come on, where is your usual energy?
one sentence isn't nearly enough
give me those paragraphs full of cope
i guess you're finally beginning to see the light
Frankly, you are just starting to bore me. What did you expect?
you're exhausting all your options and you are left with nothing
an entire thread of people shitting on your moronic takes and trying to somehow save face to nobody but yourself by autistically replying to moronic wojack memes
is it dawning on you yet?
My options is whatever you give me to work with. I've broken down your situation, and now you are just mostly making angry noises.
It's fun to talk, but there isn't much more to talk about. Unlike you, I don't enjoy repetition, and when you aren't even saying anything worth talking about, I do get bored eventually.
>i enjoy this
>no actually i don't
🙂
I ENJOYED this. It was fun to break down how you use these posts as a coping mechanisms. You occassionally spewed some fun bullshit worth examining.
But you don't do that anymore, so yeah. Eventually, it will stop being fun, and I get distracted by other things.
You are not exactly a comedy gold mine, your own insecurity is only fun for so long.
If you could actually say something relevant to previous discussion, that would probably draw me right back in.
But unfortunately, you don't have anything to say about that either.
dude listen nor you or i will ever understand it fully, but one thing is for sure if you ever think you might be onto something you probably should consider that maybe you are wrong, and that's all i have to say. you either accept that fact or you might just be as much as i said what you think, ok?
>you probably should consider that maybe you are wrong, and that's all i have to say.
I'm not wrong on this subject. I assume that I am wrong all the time. It's kinda necessary in academia, where constant review of your own beliefs is the main process of knowledge construction.
Here, however, I'm not discussing the particular efficiency of our psychological support for refugees and potential improvements for that.
I simply said that stress, trauma, and mental damage can cause horrible things, including situations where one may seem to actually lose any will to live, unable to participate not only in tasks necessary for one's survival, but even excercise basic body control.
This isn't something that requires deep discussion, this isn't something I can be wrong about, because there is so much fricking empirical evidence for this that it is straight up undeniable.
I can and often am wrong on particularities, but this is not one of them. Go visit a refugee center or a psych ward and see for yourself.
Being bored isn't falling apart. It's just being bored. Can you come up with something more exciting? Learn from the guy above, that is a post that is still fun to respond to.
everyone can see you're melting down big time
One would assume you'd get bored of this as well. But I suppose you really need to do this.
>p-please become bored s-soon? i need to save face :((
not a chance, you will ape out for as long as you're able
You really have some hilarious delusions about the impact your posts have.
i am precisely aware
don't worry about me, that's unhealthy
worry about yourself
>don't worry about me, that's unhealthy
Actually, worrying about others is quite healthy, and somewhat of a professional habit for me.
I'm not the one posting here in vain hope it will hurt the other eventually.
everyone has already seen your moronic homosexualry in the tread, there's nothing you can do but keep up the facade of confidence
and you will keep it up because you have nothing left
Not the anon you've been shitposting at but resorting to spamming basedjacks instead of just holding your own in the marketplace of ideas very much makes you look like the moronic homosexual, not the other guy.
I am upset that I didn't know s.oyjack would get filtered
Kid, let me jog your memory.
You started to posting these Wojacks because you lost the argument, and literally had nothing else to respond with.
That is why we are here. Wojack was your only way out.
nobody agreed with your moronic takes then, nobody agrees with you now
you have only showed what a massive pretentious homosexual you are, and how easily you are baited into paying attention to moronic wojack memes
>nobody agreed with your moronic takes then, nobody agrees with you now
You mean the guy shouting how victims of war related trauma are pussies? Or the guy who claimed to be an elite navy seal, but did not know clinical depression is a one-way ticket out of active combat deployment?
Or the guy who just kept saying that he would kill me?
Or the guy who decided only respond with posting Wojaks is somehow an argument in his favor?
argument?
all i'm continuing to show is how compelled you are to keep responding over and over again to moronic images out of a massive overblown sense of self-importance
i've already done what i intended to do. who else but a complete moron would get baited to this massive degree? all this is is just a dance for as long as you keep going. i already stated my willingness to keep going till the end
Are you just talking to yourself now?
ok clicking the wrong post is pretty moronic on my part lmao
>who else but a complete moron would get baited to this massive degree?
Only morons want to engage in discussion, I see. Even if it's just to call your bluff about how autistic you are it's worth carrying on.
i'm literally autistic so i don't see what there is to call a bluff on
So far I believe you but I want definitive proof. What's funny is that I actually agreed with your side of the actual argument until you sperged out and made yourself look moronic.
>definite proof
save for posting my actual diagnosis, best i can do is a massive self-own
Aw frick now I just want to play factorio. I don't know if it's a good game but it sure is fun.
>I don't know if it's a good game but it sure is fun.
I can't think of a clearer example of a good game than Factorio, really. It has a lot of depth and complexity, yet can be very rewarding even in short bursts, it has crazy skill celling but remains fun on all, even lower skill levels, it's insanely polished, with some of the best optimization and dedication to bug fixing I've ever seen... It's a simple premise, "easy to learn but difficult to master mechanic, and it has insane potential for user-made content.
What else would it be lacking from being considered a good game?
>What else would it be lacking from being considered a good game?
It might be a masterpiece, I just recognize that I don't have enough experience with the genre to make a call on quality.
>It might be a masterpiece, I just recognize that I don't have enough experience with the genre to make a call on quality.
Well it DID basically define that genre, and genre-defining works usually do so thanks to their quality.
If you ever look into something similar, I personally enjoyed the recent Capitain of Industry quite a lot. It's nowhere near as clean as Factorio, and it's still in very early access, but it did give me similar kicks.
Can't say the same for Satisfactory.
Also, if you don't mind more of a city-building bent, Workers and Resources are definitely worth looking out for, though much like Capitain of Industry, keep in mind it's an EA, and you might want to wait if you don't want to deal with the usual early access issues.
nvm i misread
but how the frick can you not know if a game is good but still think it's fun
It's possible to have fun with a bad game. Melee for instance is a buggy mess of a game to the point of being unfinished but I'll still boot it up every once in a while because it's fun.
>melee
stinky
I just like the way the falco and c.falcon feel in melee man, I don't get all stinky with the rest of the melee losers. I'm my own kind of loser.
>What's funny is that I actually agreed with your side of the actual argument until you sperged out and made yourself look moronic.
Isn't that kinda silly though. You disagreed with me, but then you changed your opinion based on how a completely unrelated person acts, even though his actions aren't in any way actually related to the subject matter?
I find this confusing. Don't take this the wrong way, I'm not attacking you, but isn't it the actual relevant argumentation that should matter.
That moron being moron should not change anything about whenever I was wrong or right about the manifestations of stress... These subjects should have correct answer completely regardless some dumb attention-hogging show happening alongside the debate.
i have a master's in philosophy so i agree with this epistemological attitude
but you seem to forget this is Ganker and optics are everything
if you like engineering/logistical problems, and/or programming, it's probably gonna be great
>i have a master's in philosophy so i agree with this epistemological attitude
No offense, but even for a master in philosophy, this is a pretty poor use it.
just graduated begin summer, no work yet
so i'm enjoying my final weeks as a completely free person
furthermore i am now sick of the education system and there were too many snobby homosexuals i had to deal with
i have learned everything i wanted to, pretty much, but i don't pretend to be holier than thou nor that my education gives me more authority on anything despite the fact that philosophy does train you to think clearly
>enjoying my final weeks as a completely free person
Making the most of it by shitposting on Ganker, huh? Honestly I respect it. Any chance you have some recommendations for philosophy reading? It's a very interesting subject but I don't know where to start.
where to start is always a tough question
the greeks are a safe answer because their philosophy is accessible and not politically loaded
but i guess it depends on what you're after
some philosophers also require a but of preparation reading from others
wait, i got it
Kierkegaard is a good mix of accessible and profound. Relatively down to earth, and useful for practical things in life
If you want to go full abstract autist, Kant and Hegel are good, but that takes determination.
Honestly Kierkegaard is my answer for a good start. His work "Either/Or" is nice
Fantastic, thank you very much anon. Also, could you elaborate on your description of Kant and Hegel being "abstract"? Abstract philosphy isn't a term I've heard of before.
Kant is abstract because he is trying to get to something that inherently cannot be described.
In his first Critique (of Pure Reason) he is trying to describe how the mind perceives the world. But he realises that in order to do so he has to make use of those perceptions in the first place. Same goes for our capacity for reason. He criticizes out capacity for reason making use OF reason to do so (that's why it's a Critique OF Pure Reason)
He gets to really wacky stuff like time and space not being actual things but constructs of the mind, of the "subject" being a void term, that it's impossible to ever affirm the existence of an object outside of our perception and so on. Very tough to read but a great payoff.
Hegel describes how truth comes to be through a kind of evolutionary/dialectic process (without ever mentioning the term evolution). He talks about how the truth is everything that is, and that was in the past, but we can never predict the future.
Hegel is very tough to summarize but I would do it with the phrase: "God is coming but will never arrive". It might make sense after reading his Phenomenology of the Geist (but that is for lunatics)
>that it's impossible to ever affirm the existence of an object outside of our perception
This is basically the thought that got me interested in philosophy in the first place. I don't know what it says about me that the one meme of mickey mouse talking about how you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they're chemicals and that all knowledge is ultimately based on that which we cannot prove sent me down this rabbit hole but that's how it happened.
That meme unironically contains the essence of that issue.
I am extremely fascinated by how memes are capable of transmitting complex ideas extremely quickly, and in a way that can dissolve preexisting paradigms pretty effectively.
Anyone who genuinely thinks about what Mickey says in that comic for a little bit will come to the same conclusion.
Materialism falls apart, scientism becomes an impossibility, only consciousness and its great mystery remains.
Of course there is also the other kind of person who disregards immediately and clings to their paradigm. Because it is easier, less painful, safer.
Nobody has ever said that trying to find the truth was easy
For the record I don't think you're entirely wrong. Trauma can make people do batshit crazy stuff, I understand that much. I just think in this particular example a dude in full power armor versus an unarmed nobody should end up with the unarmed guy losing the fight. Even if it takes the suited up guy multiple minutes to come to his senses or for survival instincts to kick in. Especially considering that the guy in the OP's image seems to have a fairly set up colony at the point that this is happening. I'm sure the pawn in question was able to sleep in a bed and is fed well enough. Not being adequetly entertained shouldn't be enough to put a person in the mental state where they would allow themselves to be beaten to death despite holding something that would instantly solve the problem.
>I just think in this particular example a dude in full power armor versus an unarmed nobody should end up with the unarmed guy losing the fight.
Well, I did start the discussion by clearly saying that Rimworld IS silly. I repeated that a lot through out this discussion. My complaint wasn't aimed at the Rimworld thing, but at the This War of Mine comment, and then at people who generally deny the actual impact stress or mental fatigue can have. It all started with a guy saying a character loosing will to do jobs necessary to survive in This War of Mine is just like "Having a bad day".
I feel kinda crazy having to repeat that all the time.
I mean, I think I could find a casuistic for a case of such severe mental exhaustion or shift of mental state as described in OP's picture, but I'm sure as hell it would be a complete curiosity, and not really an argument.
I stand by everything I said about TWoM and about the nature of stress, mental fatigue, and fight-or-flight response in general.
I'll (now quite happily) repeat my point that what OP describes in that picture is completely silly and absolutely not realistic.
Well, you just spend like four hours insisting that I must be angry at you for posting those silly pictures.
Why? You really should know better than that at this point.
twas not about anger, but about attention
looking, and writing the reply, and thinking about the contents of the reply takes up an amount of your limited attention
by making the stimulus as silly as possible i showed how silly it is to keep replying. because replying to dozens of brainlet wojacks is pretty silly
Well I obviously do understand that, I would not be here if I wasn't familiar with this kind of craving. But I think it's better to do it in a way that isn't, sorry to say this, humiliating to yourself. I wasn't lying when I was saying it was because I enjoy the process, but I always try to do it while saying things I could essentially stand by, even if my presentation may not be exactly normal.
I really think it's rather unhealthy to not set boundaries for the amount of stuff you are willing to do online for attention. It's consequence free from the perspective of nobody ELSE being able to use it against you, but I don't think it's very healthy for basic self-reflection in the long term.
I am quite happy to see that me staying here genuinely wasn't pointless, seeing as we are having an actual discussion right now, despite all that mess above though.
it's not FOR attention
after this thread gets archived we will probably never interact again. or at least not knowingly.
any perception of other people on here are irrelevant, and are ultimately projections based on small slivers of information.
the anonymous nature of the boards allow for doing whatever you want consciously, to see what happens, or not, to just go with the flow, without permanent consequence.
this is surely why it devolves into toxic behaviour, but i would honestly go insane if i had no release valve for speaking my mind however i wanted. mincing words is extremely tiring
if i gave you the impression of being a mentally unstable moron with attention issues then i can pretty much assure you you don't have to worry. i will say it is nice to see you being genuinely concerned, as far as that is possible
>i would honestly go insane if i had no release valve for speaking my mind however i wanted
Good to know I'm not alone. Gotta get the inner insanity out somewhere somehow or else it'd be impossible to function in society.
I disagree with your assumptions about the implications of anonymity. You should be familiar with views that human being is a result of the action he takes, and decisions he makes. Anonymity may remove other actors, but not you. I spoke of dignity and I think that is a serious consideration one should always have. Because I think there is a consequence to being an ass even if there is no punishment - it's the fact that you voluntarily decide that being an ass is something you are fine with. And I genuinely believe there is a serious risk that this sort of lax standards upon yourself can catch up to you. When I implied you may be addicted to this behavior - it may have been wrong, but it wasn't a baseless assumption. I've seen way too people slowly lose control of their own behavior exactly like this - by assuming there is no harm in such behavior, and then slowly and gradually just losing the restraint that you need to keep situation under control. Human brain is, as I've said several times in this thread, a BIT of a b***h like that.
What is being an ass?
Does good and evil exist?
I have never been able to answer this ontological question on the basis of either material nor abstract premises.
It wasn't until I started studying religion that I came to the conclusion that morality does indeed flow from God (i will lose many people here but idc)
And so I do think that objective good exists.
Does objective evil therefore also exist? Hard to say. I tend to believe that evil is the absence of the proper divine order rather than a different kind of force.
Anyway, perhaps I sinned here. You might be correct that I strayed too far from the proper order. But I never tried to subvert or harm it.
I am the kind of dumbass that needs to touch fire before he understands that it burns you. I cannot know the proper boundaries unless I seek them out. And rather than do that with my friends, I rather do it here.
yes
>What is being an ass?
Being a bother to others while not gaining any benefit for yourself is a good start.
>I have never been able to answer this ontological question on the basis of either material nor abstract premises.
That is because they are not ontological, they are pragmatic. Basic axiology, normative theory of meaning, and some insight into evolutionary history of human species can solve that problem quite fast.
This is why I gave up on philosophy. Creating false problems only to get stuck on. Ontology is a meaningless assumption, a naive hope that epistemology could be deified. It can't. Hoping for that is a way to dodge having to bear the real responsibility that comes from human limitations.
Morality on a grander scale is a product of human evolutionary necessity to establish stable and reliable modes of cooperative behavior. Functional principles improving, or at least not impeding cooperation, were codified into ethical codexes.
On a personal scale, they are a system that allows you to live with dignity, and as such, without becoming a victim of brutal, character-twisting insecurities.
Which is why it is really worth having some basic ethic standards, even if just because of yourself.
I realize this is kind of a brainlet take, but your answer to life's questions is boring and unsatisfying. That probably means you're correct though.
My bad anon, I have that ADHD shit so I wasn't about to be reading through all of what was said unless I know it's going to hold my attention. I probably agree with you wholesale then, I just think that rimworld example is bonkers for the dev to look at and go "muh realism".
>lack definitive proof
>posted 40 wojaks back to back
what more proof could you need that someone is an underage sperg
He claimed he's willing to do this shit for hours until the thread dies and I want to see it happen if he's an honest man. Can't help but be fascinsted by people who's brain works differently from mine.
hey bro i'm almost running out of wojacks but i go until the ship freaking sinks
Bro I just went through this entire thread and by my count you got dabbed on up and down for hours by three milgays and at least one or two medgays who are just stringing you along while their bored at work. You're the guy with a wojak folder. That's where you're at. We're not laughing with you.
>there's nothing you can do but keep up the facade of confidence
Ironic, maybe just save yourself any further embarrasment anon. You're going to keep getting btfo until the thread hits bump limit otherwise.
you're falling apart
doubting your own thoughts
contradicting yourself
>"should i say this? or maybe like that? gotta make sure i look confident!"
every post, a piece of you dies
and all i do is drag a new image in the UI
stop struggling. let the world take you
>Myers–Briggs
You *do* realize that's just horoscopes for aspies, right? Get a grip, autist.
And normalcy is religion and idol of cattle, your point?
Deviancy is not a virtue in and of itself, morono. Take your unscientific woo-woo pseudo-psychology and shove it up your nasal tract.
you type like a gay and your opinions suck ass
every human has a fight or flight response. it doesn't matter how "mentally broken" you are, if someone attacks you instincts will take over.
We have been over this. You have no clue what that response actually is, or when is it triggered. See above.
Depressed people do self destructive things, especially when combined with existential dread.
GOD IT'S SO FRICKING COLD OUTSIDE I'M HAVING A MENTAL BREAK IT'S SO COOOOLD FUUUUCK
THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO DEAL IT:
>avoids all rooms with heaters or any other heat source
>runs into the open snow storm
to be fair that is the sort of behavior hypothermia causes.
ONLY because hypothermia destroys your nerves and you start thinking cold is hot.
hypothermia destroys your fricking perception and rationality
Genuine question here:
Why does everybody on Ganker constantly look for reasons to be angry? You all look for the tiniest, most minuscule inconsequential reasons just to be upset at something. Why? Do you all like being angry and upset? If so, why? I don’t get it.
How can you all exist in perpetual negativity and anger; it’s so unhealthy, and it’ll just make your mental and physical health so much worse. Like, Jesus anus-fricking Christ; how do to you all wake up in the morning, knowing that you’re just going to repeat the same cycle of anger, day after day? Don’t you all get tired of it all?
What pushes you all to keep going - realically, you’re not upsetting ANYBODY when you call them a “double-Black person” or “Reddit”; all you’re doing it upsetting yourself for no reason. I just don’t get it.
Just be happy. Not everything or everybody is out to get you.
If you think I'll read any of that, you are sorely mistaken, homosexual.
I don’t care if you read my copypasta, you still responded. Black person.
I didn't even read that one line post, I just respond to (You)s, homosexual.
only a Black person would think reading is a trick or punishment.
based short and succinct chad
cringe thesis writing nerd
>lose days of progress on your colony to 1 dumb mental break
>WHY ARE YOU MAD DUDE WHY AREN'T YOU JUST ENJOYING IT?
better question is why the devs don't work on making the game less bullshit
Because it's a skill issue, not a game issue. Maybe if your colony hadn't been so shitty you wouldn't have lost it.
don't blame your own poor choices or bad luck on the devs lol
its a management game. you mismanaged your pawns and you suffer for it. take care of problems before they become problems. keep them happy and safe and fed. theres always rng shit like a 2 week long toxic fallout hitting before you have hydroponics but thats what makes it fun. no rng would make it unplayable.
>oh no, I kept my pawn at a low mood even through the game warned he would have a mental break
>how could this happen to me?!
you are an idiot and patsied into the biggest most obvious logical pitfall that the commonly known phenomenon of sample selection bias could offer you.
look at the state of this board
Look how they massacred my boy.
>it's bias
You're the same morons who act like 'Ganker isn't one person.
Hivemind exists anon, you're naive to think a bunch of people collectively have similar opinions to fit in.
You doing okay anon?
Look in the mirror, ask yourself that stupid question and then blow your fricking brains out for wating without a table (-3)
>why is a website full of homosexuals so homosexualy?
Oh boy I wonder
let me summarise this thread
>ME GOOD
>YOU BAD
>ME MOG YOU
Aren't these games specifically made to be RNG trash to appeal to low IQ redditors? In the same vein as Darkest Dungeon etc
what are you doing with your IQ?
Go write a mod or cry about it. Looks like you are not able to deal with the randomness that life throws at you so you take out your insecurities on some fricktard that I also usually do not agree with. At least have the courage to own up to that.
games shifting focus from gameplay and story to microtransactions and idpol shit is objectively worse. not to mention the design philosophy of "we can always patch it later, it only has to mostly work"
play the games that aren't vessels for microtransactions then
i do. but youre ignoring the entire industry with stupid remarks like that. elden ring is the only recent successful game that didnt have mtx and it was still a "we can always patch it later" scenario.
the industry is vast
>elden ring is the only recent successful game that didnt have mtx
stupid consolegay
>consolegay
you realize that its on pc right?
what other big hit games have come out that werent mtx laden?
why not a moderate hit? why not a small hit? why any hit at all? why is your playing a game predicated on how much of a blockbuster it is? there are tons of games without any of that shit coming out right now
because were talking about the state of the industry you fricking idiot. not any specific game. yeah there are a million indie shit games of every form and flavor, but guess what. thats largely meaningless, its just the next step from flash games. some game a dude and his friend made in their basement not having mtx or Black personhomosexuals doesnt mean that every major release suddenly doesn't. so i ask again, what recent big hit game didnt have this shit?
>indie "shit"
>largely meaningless
>muh major release
why are you so hooked on marketing, consolegay?
>poo
>pee
>poopoo
why cant you have an actual discussion and address anything being said homosexual? are you just bored and lonely looking for (you)s of any kind?
you're insisting on extreme selection bias so you can't reasonably expect anyone to counter it. it's like insisting that all humans have heart failure because you refuse to sample anyone other than heart failure patients.
AAA games that spend billions on marketing are riddled with microtransactions. games in general aren't.
indie games arent the industry. youre pointing to interactive buddy or the classroom and saying they're just as impactful and valid as the over marketed major games that everyone talks about. that everyone plays. infact if youre younger than 25 id put money on the fact that youve never heard of either of the games i name dropped.
sorry but i don't play AAA trash
you dont have to to understand the state of the industry. but i nor anyone else reading this believes you. youre probably the same poster thats prodding people by "pretending" to be moronic and defend the dev post on realism.
i don't play AAA trash (anymore) and i don't really remember the last AAA game i played. bioshock infinite in 2014 maybe?
>some game a dude and his friend made in their basement not having mtx or Black personhomosexuals doesnt mean that every major release suddenly doesn't
But if at least some games are like this I would be happy as a customer. But even that seems far away nowadays.
sounds like that guy made a terrible game and he can't stop seething over it.
There are some incredibly autistic/schizophrenic individuals that get obsessed with certain games and spend all their time b***hing about it on the internet, but most criticism would most likely come from people that see something shit, call it shit, and then move on to calling something else shit.
That’s actually a pretty accurate take on one’s protection of their innocence and nihilism in general, but here’s another hypothesis: You made a bad indie game.
Ya made a BAD game, Petey!
who?
this could be true in some cases but there's definitely cases of games going down the shitter and subsequent seething on Ganker being warranted.
I think the Cave of Chuds developer having a breakdown over people wanting to play as the coolest faction (Who are """"Nazis"""") is probably the best example of this.
reading this thread i realize the rimworld community may be the most moronic of all time
.....???
I've never heard this criticism about RimWorld before. Sounds like the same oevel of midwit that cries about misses in X-Com.
homie this isn't a simulation, the game is to pamper psychotic morons, that's just how it is.
imagine having a mental breakdown over being naked in nature.
OH NO I DONT WEAR PANTS HOW WILL I EVER COPE????
what if you had a little dick though
Can anyone point me to a single example of a depressed (but still physically fit and healthy) person letting a small animal eat them to death?
Cause otherwise arguing that this is realistic is very silly.
Yeah but niglet in etopia one time something something
Peak of human physique right there
>depressed but still physically fit and healthy
That's someone clearly exhausted from a lack of basic nutrition, they are not even close to physically healthy. Try again and actually read specifically what people have a problem with in the OP.
Anyway, I have like 400 hours in RimWorld and I don't think I've ever seen a character go from 100 to 0 HP from a rator two. If I have, they were already very mentally and physically crippled, and still they usually don't die; they just get incapacitated and carried to a bed.
I wasn't reaching for a perfect example because OPs gripe is already moronic.
christ, this thread is a mess
who is even getting offended here and on whose behalf? the dev (i hope so anyway, god forbid it's someone defending them online for free) made a mistake in calling it realistic because nothing about the mental system in rimworld is realistic and now people are throwing a tantrum saying it's realistic that mentally traumatized people just allow themselves to be slowly killed?
i really hope this is just unreasonably successful bait because otherwise anyone getting riled up over it is a genuine moron for thinking rimworld is a realistic model of human behavior
>saying it's realistic that mentally traumatized people just allow themselves to be slowly killed?
An anon is, in fact, arguing this.
dev is a moron and everyone defending him is a moron. sure, the game might try to SIMULATE self-destructive behaviour but it does so in a completely moronic manner that produces nothing of value to either the game or the people playing it.
That's like saying the disasters in SimCity produce nothing of value.
wildly disingenuous, low iq post. possibly never even played rimworld.
do you feel that video game devs are responsible for your life becoming more stressful and complicated as time advances?
if(<specific situation that makes OP cry>) <do something else to save his feelings>
>OH NO IM HAVING A BAD DAY
>IM SO DEPRESSED
>I SHOULD LET THESE RATS EAT ME ALIVE
YOU GOOD
OTHER BAD
>suck at game
>complain at game
git gud
>I'm too moronic to keep some smokeleaf
https://steamcommunity.com/app/294100/discussions/0/1743342647565039541/
>BUT THIS GAMEPLAY MECHANIC MODELED AFTER A COMPLEX REAL LIFE ISSUE IS NOT 100% REALISTIC WAAAAH
>ALSO I'M AN EXPERT ON THE HUMAN PSYCHE DESPITE BEING A SOCIALLY CHALLENGED SHUT-IN
It does what it needs to do as a gameplay mechanic which is work in a consistent manner. You do something wrong, your character is disabled for a period of time, end of story.
Nobody believes you're a different poster, we know you're the same guy
Nobody gives a frick if a game is unrealistic, because these kinds of ludonarrative events that only happen in video games is entertaining. It's why we laugh at dwarf fortress when a mother is "angry" at seeing a dead body, and uses the baby she's holding as a weapon to bludgeon someone else "out of stress". This is funny.
The op event is hilarious. Some moron in power armor with a gun is "too sad" to react to a naked ape beating them to death. That shits funny. The reaction from the dev is funny because it's "cry me a river" response.
It's the anons itt that think they're experts of psychology and this this sort of nonsense is real. Nobody gives a frick about the op, were wondering how anyone can claim it's realistic. It's not. An anyone saying it is, is one of those pseudo intellectual hacks that think they understand complex thought
> Ate without table
> I had to eat a meal off the ground. Can't we get a table around here?
> -3 mood
Has anyone ever felt bad eating food without a table?
tables are comfy
also you need tables for your dining room anyway, it's one of the easiest ways to increase mood without much work
Depends on the food really. Ice cream, corn dogs, fine I'll stand without a mood loss, but nearly anything else? I am mildly-to very annoyed by not being able to sit.
Not all of us live under the overpass.
Exact same situation with Move or Die. So many things in the game are completely broken and instead of fixing them, the devs would rather just remove features instead since nobody likes their latest game.
Darkest Dungeon did this mechanic near perfectly where various afflictions can cause your character to act against your orders and too much stress will cause a heart attack, but your character still doesn't just give up and die.
yes, because DD heroes have a much higher value than Rimworld pawns
a DD hero being disabled is a huge deal where a pawn is just bothersome
Picrel, no living being has a mental breakdowns into stillness in critical situations like these. Adrenaline is a thing.
>rats put into a life and death situation in a space they have never been before, an unclimbable tube
>ones saved develop skills to survive more efficiently, after the panic subsides they learn attempts to climb out won't work
>when put into same position again they focus on swimming knowing they can't climb out
>it must be result of hope and totally not an advertisement piece for John Hopkins Hospital™ to keep billing terminally ill patients.
checkmate atheists
stupid facebook mom image
>statistics recorded from the American Civil War to Vietnam showed that over 70% of soldiers would intentionally miss their shots, effectively sucking their thumbs and hoping the enemy will go away
>No, but you see, every man who breathes has an infallible fight or flight response to danger and those who die never did so because of hesitation or severe hysteria
You're really grasping at straws here. What a moronic quote, literally has zero relevance to anything we're discussing.
It's not comparable to someone holding a gun while being physically beaten.
The examples in this thread don't happen though. Characters in RimWorld drop their weapons when they're wigging out. Also a game where people cut down like eight trees a day, every day, btw. Very exhausting for a regular able-bodied human. That's considered a good day in the game.
That one anon is getting a little carried away with his argument, but no one's really knocking down his points with genuine examples.
Nobodies arguing about the op pic. There's a literal moron that thinks it's a genuinely accurate human response in the real world for an armed guy to not react to a beating.
I personally find it entertaining when NPCs make silly decisions. Realistic reactions would be boring.
But this hothead is literally seething that nobody believes his lukewarm take that the op pic is accurate. Dude believes anything in Hollywood and just pulls quotes from irrelevant situations. I've never seen a gay more mad than this.
Fine, bicker away. I just want it to be known OP is a petty nodev b***h if he thinks that's horrible game design.
Also, wasn't the guy who made RimWorld in the military lol?
>No, but you see, every man who breathes has an infallible fight or flight response
That is not what these poor sods are saying, actually.
What they are saying is that THEY PERSONALLY would never die or falter because they are bad-ass and anyone else is a pussy.
Can you expand more on that statistic?
I find it hard to believe they can declare such a number with any accuracy beyond self-reports from soldiers saying they've intentionally missed at least once in their career.
https://www.faac.com/blog/2018/01/28/killer-instinct-how-many-soldiers-actually-fired-their-weapons-in-past-wars-how-has-simulation-other-training-helped/
>Stand 30 yards away from the enemy
>Load rifle and aim
>Intentionally miss
>Begin the process of loading another ball
>Gamble on whether or not the enemy is like you or will actually shoot you dead
>Over many minutes, your allies start dropping
>Continue to miss
It really is odd how the civil war killed hundreds of thousands yet shit like that can happen. Thanks for the link.
That website posts (with no source) about the civil war and muskets, and even mentions that in Vietnam they got a much higher kill rate due to specific training.
You're all exagerating.
These are pretty well known studies. I just posted the first link I could find because I couldn't find the documentary about it on YouTube. Only about 2% of soldiers intentionally shoot to kill. It's not an exaggeration.
Are you just willfully omitting the concept of suppressing fire or do you not know about it?
In WWI and later wars, the machine gun completely changed how soldiers would handle open combat. Most GIs were firing and moving from cover to cover while marksmen handled picking off key targets. bullets were more expendable than trained soldiers so requisitioning for more ammo was better than losing your soldiers.
Did you read the study? They accounted for that.
is this guy now literally samegayging 5+ times in a row? is this the power of the unironic autistic larper?
>this thread
god she was so hot before the boggening
>people arguing about psychology and life while you just dont want to lose your ironman permadeath run to a freakin' little bunny hopping on your colonist while he is sad about having a dull bedroom
sorry anon
you made me laugh tho
(you)
I get it, it sucks your game ended abruptly, but you should expect silly outcomes in these games. That's where the entertainment comes from.
Take dwarf fortress, if 1 mother sees a dead body they get "mad" or stressed or some shit and will throw her baby, penetrating the captain of the guards skull, who in turn will also be "stressed out" and decapitate the mother, causing a chain reaction of every other dwarf murdering each other out of stress and depression
The absurdity of the situation is more funny than infuriating. That's why you play these games. The only way to win is to keep your character fed somehow in a metal cage where nothing can hurt them.
Okay Black person dwarf fortresses isnt trying to be "realistic" what the frick is realistic about getting killed by bunnies because youre le sad
It's not realistic, I was agreeing with you.
The dev is a pseudo intellectual like that seething samegay in this thread. That think this behaviour is realistic.
I just think realistic responses take away what little entertainment value this game gives you in the first place.
Rabbits in RimWorld are the size of dogs and sometimes carnivorous.
your fault
if you are playing ironman you need to consider all possibilities
>b-but bunny!
bunny was just randy instrument of death, if it was a panther or warg the result would be the same
if you are playing ironman you need to keep your colonists mood up
>b-but I had just suffered a disastrous raid!
this is why I keep some yayo on hand
Someone here should really take a moment to touch some grass.
>no you don't understand people w
Getting punched in the face repeatedly will be so SHOCKED by the sheer depression and stress entering their body, the endorphins activate!! The medulla oblongata becomes tense!! They can't run or raise their arms to defend themselves!!!
>WHAT? YOU DISAGREE? HOW DARE YOU, YOU FRICKING CHILD, YOU IDIOT, YOU STUPID SAVAGE, IDIOT, IDIOT.
>wander around aimlessly while getting beaten to death
>for hours
>dev defends this with "muh real life"
it sounds like the dev didn't even fricking read the post lol. How can anyone think this is sensible? In what scenario have you seen someone still physically able to walk and move about get beaten for hours without lashing out? The only time I've seen anything like this, the person was drugged into a stupor or so old they needed a nurse to roll them over to prevent bed sores. "Not thinking straight" doesn't make any sense either and is usually an excuse for committing violence, not getting your face pushed in for 90 minutes straight while you're oblivious.
>In what scenario have you seen someone still physically able to walk and move about get beaten for hours without lashing out?
My girlfriend.
>The only time I've seen anything like this, the person was drugged into a stupor
Drug taking and drug addiction are very common practices in RimWorld.
>Brings up this war of mine when it isn't relevant to the thread
>We all asked you "How does a trained soldier get punched for hours without doing anything about it when he has a gun"
>"Have you forgotten we're talking about this war of mine?" Civilians aren't soldiers, god you kids are so dumb lol you're not masterchef nobody would know how to react to getting punched :^)"
>Everyone has fight or flight at the very least the guy WITH THE GUN would shoot the naked prisoner or run away
>"NO REMEMBER THIS WAR OF MINE PEOPLE AREN'T TRAINED TO HANDLE STRESS
>WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OP GAME NO THIS WAR OF MINE
>"You aren't experienced to know anything"
up this war of mine when it isn't relevant to the thread
I'm going to stop you right here.
See:
Third post in this thread, the only post I originally replied to.
50% of the shit in this thread is people literally unable to fricking read.
When you replied to me, you replied to me responding to that post. I've even reminded you of that FOUR TIMES through out this discussion.
Again, you people are actually raving mad. Like - can't read, can't talk level of absolutely mad.
And you are still defending a point about how you totally could handle extreme stress with ease.
You can't handle this discussion kid. You literally can't control yourself here. You think you can talk about human resilience in extreme stress situations?
>You can't handle this discussion kid. You literally can't control yourself here. You think you can talk about human resilience in extreme stress situations?
Maybe no one is reading your posts or taking you seriously cuz you're a giant pseudo intellectual high on his own farts, and nothing else you say is of value or even reasonable. How old are you? Stop calling everyone kid, it makes everyone think you aren't old enough to use this site.
>50% of the shit in this thread is people literally unable to fricking read.
READ WHAT? That you defend a ridiculous scenario that wouldn't happen irl?
>Again, you people are actually raving mad. Like - can't read, can't talk level of absolutely mad.
What . The frick. Is your point. Spell it out right now
>And you are still defending a point about how you totally could handle extreme stress with ease.
I would REACT if a guy was punching me once. If I wasn't in a coma after 4 hours of punches I think I would have used THE GUN in my hand if I was int gat guards situation. What exactly is preventing Anyone from reacting?
You need to read the Principles of Game Design, a book by Tynan, the developer of Rimworld (a game by Tynan)
what the frick is this thread?
reading through this shit has been so fricking annoying, god I hope I never have to talk to people like you irl
you have to have mental breakdown in front of a bunny who bites you to death to understand it
>george has a mental breakdown
>final straw: lisa denied him wiener and ball torture
>running away in panic
>decreased weapon accuracy
>longer time between attacks
>faster stamina usage
>passing out
>have a heart attack
>hallucinations
>vomiting
>increased chance for critical failures (or whatever, like tripping, dropping their weapon, forgetting to reload, etc)
multiple ways to handle PTSD, morale, stress, etc whatever that make more sense than ignoring a guy killing you over 3 hours. The reasonable, experienced, adults don't seem to think so th ough. Games 20 years old have done sanity mechanics better than this. This sounds more like a dev oversight or just a thoughtlessly implemented mechanic.
Those are all things that can happen in the game.
Then DO NOTHING WHILE A NAKED MAN BEATS UP MASTER CHIEF isn't really necessary or reasonable, is it?
Why not?
Why? almost 300 posts and not a single real world example of something even sort of similar happening. The best we have is starving african kids and fictional super soldier girlfriends. Why not have him dissolve into a puddle of soapy water? If it doesn't need to make any sense and whether or not it's necessary why not just do frickin whatever when a guy cracks. Make him grow 3x in size, turn red, and explode.
Again, wasn't the creator of RimWorld in the military? The special irony of this thread is that there are multiple people who are sharing their first hand experiences with you, and we all know we're in the right and you being flippant about it is just you looking worse with each post while being entirely convinced it's the other way around.
My mother works in a hospital, I have several best friends who are medgays, I myself am a lawgay; Ive literally been getting paid this entire time to toy with you in my Level IIIA ballistic vest. Do you really think a beaten wife hasn't died from hours of uncontested abuse before? The guy in OPs pic didn't post the battle log that explains in great detail how one might recieve a fatal blow from an unarmed man. So what if he's wearing armor? If the pawn is a loser that won't fight back, what difference does it make?
Why are you wearing a IIIA ballistic vest indoors anon. Is someone going to shoot you with a hand cannon?
They'll probably just beat me to death since I'm almost catatonic from all the dumb posts. But to answer your question, I'm wearing it because I'll be reprimanded if I'm seen taking it off, and it's also comfy to turtle up into and sleep in.
Notice the distinct lack of IRL examples where someone walked around for hours in extensive armor while another man beat them to death
Sure it is.
I can totally understand going near catatonic under the stress of being unable to play horseshoes for a few days, but I can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept an unarmed naked prisoner somehow punched a suit of power armor for hours without sustaining injuries or simply opting to run away instead
Okay so to sum this thread up
>boredom always leading to suicidal apathy is ridiculous
>it's not the norm but can happen in real life
So it shouldn't be the default mechanic.
Kids, I am trans by the way.
>check thread
>sperg is still sperging
rimworld is a shit game. I don't care if it's a """""realistic"""" depiction of how people handle stress, it's just tedious to play as. Oh and the game sucks.
The moronic 'elite' players from Robocraft that were the only ones the devs ever listened to. Look where your game is now morons! I will never forgive those fricking morons for destroying that amazing game. Nothing can replace it.
This thread, holy shit...
>a moronic scene that's obviously a funny consequence of the game mechanics
>fanboy defends the game because he's a little shit
>anons defend the fanboy because they're so autistic that they can't even understand why the scene is moronic in the first place
>I had to eat my sandwich without a table?!?!?
>BETTER START KILLING EVERYONE
>-3 mood
have you tried not letting your pawns stay on major break risk?
one of the worst threads in history
Your pawn should fight back when threatened unless it has a really bad mental condition. Simple as is.
can someone enlighten me what level of IQ possesses to trigger such a long discussion with just one image and a one-liner greentext?
damn the lead programmer want people to rim his ass some more
You would not complain about people doing mindless moronic shit if you've seen 90% of the workforce in your country.
Most people you'll ever meet are fricking moronic drones and can't even complete a full shift of work without trying to squirm out of doing what they're paid to do
why are you morons defending a game called rimjobworld?
i think i haven't witnessed a single person in the history of the internet laughing about rimjob jokes about rimworld. it's like the moron annoying kid in your class trying to make a joke and then starts laughing and everybody just making cringe faces as reaction.
you must be at least 18 years old to post on Ganker
>NOOOOO ITS NOT REALISTIC
It makes for a good story though, which is the entire point of Rimworld's design and always has been
keep going Ganker, I'm sure you can get it to 500
just make your warden arrest the pawn that goes mad its not hard and requires no mods/psycasters
even better, just snort some yayo
yeah that's the first thing you do after immediately releasing them
holy shit this thread is hilarious, i haven't seen this much seething in a while
the beta pawn doing nothing, because his feelings hurt
the chad escapee prisoner, slow murdering the pawn
>not having a long trap and turret filled corridor between the prisoner area and the main quarters
ngmi
Setting up a new colony is the most tedious shit ever, so I'm probably never playing this again.
The amount of people posting entire walls of text trying to justify this shit prove that it's moronic.
A couple of milchads dabbing on morons out of boredom is separate from the topic. The text in the screenshot has been approached at about every angle and no one could refute what the dev said.
>one guys autistic spergout is ruined by a wojack autist
this has been one of the most hilarious and detached from reality theeads i have read in weeks
thanks shut in schizos and the well rounded life experiencers who blew them the frick out
shame i didnt get in earlier
Thank you. That's half of why I kept bumping the thread. I don't care about debunking some children; it's for you anons reading and seeing this unfold.
look at 'im grasping to the straws
You're not even replying to the right guy now. I just used the word "children" to bait your dumb ass.
so Rimworld
anybody checking the new psycast mod?
rimworld proves that communism works
>this is exactly how it works IRL
>if you're bored you'll just let some random escaped convict beat you to death
Holy frick the levels of moronic in that dev's reply.
Some real life mental illness going on in here. Very nice.
Do broken pawns not escalate to berserk when attacked? Or am I just too used to mods?
My apologies, I thought this was a video games thread.
>this thread
Anyway when I play Rimworld I turn off all the difficulty and raids and just focus on making a lot of sculptures
>comfy colony building on a peaceful alien planet
Sounds like a good time.
Everyone in this thread is a fricking moron
go to africa if you don't like it
African here, it's comfy
also let's kill this thread
we need an african Ganker
africhan if you will
That´s twitter, Black person.
>He doesn't stockpile a stack of yayo for instant happiness.
>the yayo virgin
>the joywired p-harmonizer slave chad
This is my final post.
I must eat dinner.
May God smile upon you.
Last post to end this garbage
bump
you have no power here