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>all according to the jailers keikaku
Warcraft's story officially ended with TFT and WoW isn't canon for being an MMO. Same shit with ESO.
>I don't think the manual's lich king origin of 'was an orc' ever was in the main game though.
What??
WoW vanilla was fine, it added many new cool stories and developed the world without shitting on the old lore besides night elves not having exclusive gender roles anymore
There was also the "Tauren can be druids because the Tauren religion and Night Elf religion are basically the same I guess lmao"
Also non-orc warlocks.
the existence of non-orc warlocks doesn't sound as bullshit to me, sounds like something other races could totally do after learning that it's possible
the moronic part is warlocks being officially accepted by Thrall's Horde and the Alliance
I read that in the beginning of WoW (vanilla), Warlocks and Priests should have been exclusive to faction. Just as Paladin and Shaman.
Source?
Doubtful tho. iirc troll shadow priest where a thing in WIII's campaign, and summoning demons was a worry to human even before the first war, so non-horde warlocks must have existed.
Although I guess they could have rejected those as too rare for being made into a standard class of that faction, more difference between faction would have been welcome anyway.
they are more probable than orc warlocks. back at that time, orc would kill any warlocks on sight way faster
>>WoW vanilla was fine
Anon, you are such a Black person it's a miracle your melanin density hasn't reach a point where Schwarzschild radius become a concern.
>ultra-isolationist NE joining any group and letting them travel freely across their land
>Lordaeron joining the horde, ever
>Tauren having druidism
yea but what we have now is even worse than that so we should settle for it
The downward death spiral of Warcraft's lore was inevitable at the very moment they decided that they'd continue the story in an mmo format with only two factions. This made sure that for every major event, every conflict, every defeat of a big baddie, was going to be canonically credited to both Alliance and Horde, even though Warcraft 3 already established multiple unaligned/hostile factions can take center stage. Huge red flag when 2 of those factions were absorbed by the main ones for MMO convenience.
I was telling people in forums long ago that WoW being an MMO was bad news and it made sure the Lich King/Scourge vs Kil'jaeden/Legion faceoff was never going to happen even though everyone at the time was looking forward to it, someone even eventually made a popular shitty fanmade movie about it. But no, LK had to be taken down by the players, KJ had to be taken down by the players. I warned everyone about this since vanilla.
based orc seer anon warning the world of the danger
>someone even eventually made a popular shitty fanmade movie about it.
Are you talking about Tales of the Past?
That was the fricking shit back in the day. That one anime fight between Blazer and Arthas was the hypest shit I'd seen back then.
>recruited multiple guilds for acting out the major fights ingame instead of composing everything in UE/WMV
the second movie had soul
it would've been a nightmare to do that in compositing
even blizz used to do in game recordings of crowds or larger scale battles in cinematics like Wrathgate
>Are you talking about Tales of the Past?
Yes. But I have to admit it had vanilla and 2000s internet SOUL.
>just decided to make a naruto/warcraft fanmade movie
>cliché videogame building with the entire setup being an excuse for a big fight with corny lines and non-sensical warps around the place
yet Surfang was handled better than the expansion almost built around him and the dwarf/rexxar had better character development than any character in the 4 last expansions
Posts like this always make it apparent how inundated this board is with zoomers as they are too young to remember how angry the people who loved the WC3 lore were when Vanilla first came out.
This.
>Tauren Druidism
Really isn’t that big of a deal. Tauren are natives of Azeroth and have been for nearly as long as the Night Elves. If anything, it’s stranger that they have Shaman when shamanism seems to originate from island trolls and green aliens from another planet.
>Forsaken doing what the people of Lordaeron would do
No. Sylvanas is Lich King light, her will is the will of the Forsaken, and she didn’t care about Lordaeron beyond being her new base of operations to plan her revenge on Arthas.
What’s wrong with Vanilla lore? The worst I can think of is hand waving Walocks, but besides that I’ve read every book and game manual released through vanilla’s launch and I didn’t notice any major lore violations. BC and the Draenei retcon is where the lore rape started.
Forsaken joining the Horde was the nail in the coffin for me. No one in their right mind would ever want to join with their lot. They're diseased and the antipathy to life itself. What kind of dumbass warchief would ever do that?
To be totally honest, I’ve never leveled a Horde character in vanilla/classic. My understanding is they took advantage of the optimism of the Tauren and joined through some deal with them. Makes sense from a Forsaken point of view, but I don’t see it from the Horde angle, you’re right. Garrosh in Cataclysm saw through the bullshit himself.
You can make it make some sense (If they really wanted to), and I could elaborate on that.
The best thing vanilla wow did was basically not have a story to frick up. Should have kept making RTS to continue the story with while the MMO lives alongside it.
fyi retcon means retroactive continuity
I'm aware
>Frostmorne was forged by the Lich King
>No, actually it was made by the Burning Legion
>No actually, actually it was made by the Jailer as a part of his master plan!
>Arthas is obeying the orders of the Lich King and destroying his kingdom in the name of the Scourge because Frostmorne stole his soul
>Except Arthas is the Lich King now because his soul overpowered Ner'zhul's soul
>Or, uh, maybe their souls fought really hard and merged into a single "Lich King" soul
>Anyway, Arthas still totally had his soul the whole time which is why he's the Lich King now
>And he destroyed his own homeland and everything he ever loved or cared about in service to the leader of the very forces he had sacrificed everything to fight because... uh... because... um...
arthas is a complicated guy ok
Arthas Menethil
>In relationship with: Lich King
>Relationship status: It's complicated
maybe he's BPD
>You see, Frostmourne is like.. Kodak Film
>No, actually, it's more like.. Jello Puddin' Pops
>No, actually, it's more like.. The New Coke. It'll be around forever.
>Heh heh heh
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please understand metzen was snorting a lot of coke and couldn't even copy another person's story coherently
That's the thing. At some point, Metzen just straight up forgot that Arthas wasn't Elric and got the two plotlines confused.
Of all things to copy he chose a middling melodrama about a not-elf wanting to frick his cousin.
and reddit had the audacity to call this guy "the best written character in videogames" lmao
Reminder that arthas did nothing wrong and if Jaina went with him to Stratholme he wouldn’t have become the lich king. Never trust women to have your back.
To be honest, if Uther, Jaina and his own father turn their back on him at the most crucial moment. It's not surprising that he would ditch his humanity to some orc shaman just to spite them all.
>Uther, Jaina and my own father won't back me in my desperate fight against the Scourge and refuse to acknowledge how dangerous the Scourge threat is
>So I better join the Scourge
Ner'zhul is very persuasive.
>"yes, i damned everything i ever loved. yet i feel no remorse. no shame. no pity.
his pretty much just a brainwashed zombie at that point. it was the novels and WOTLK when the writing got really fricky.
Even before that. After Stratholme he shows his true colors of being a dick and no longer being the charming and handsome prince. Him betraying the mercenaries showcases this.
true, everything After Stratholme can be blamed on Arthes pride and arrogance getting the better of him.
wc3 was the retcon or did they change that in wow?
As early as TFT iirc.
>WC3
>This sword was made by the Lich King.
>TFT
>Actually it was part of the Lich King Armor Set™ which was made by Kil'jaeden???
>it's the undead and cult of the damned!
>it's the lich king
>it's the demons who made Nerzul lich king, who was an orc, but he was also fighting the demon influence
>it's the old ones manipulating events in the background
>it's the jailer
>it's the bigger bad, the jailer was only fighting it
It's like a sitcom. All WC3 made, was shat on.
I always liked how WoW made it so each previous antagonist was actually a good guy all along and they were doing everything they have been doing to fight the bigger bad every single time and for every single one of them. Few stories every gone that far.
but it dumbs down the plot greatly
What's wrong with making the game more accessible?
that kind of accessibility would be like installing wheelchair ramps on a marathon course. or turning war and peace into the cat in the hat. the result isn't accessibility the result is the people who don't care about story still don't care and for everyone else it's patronizing product no one needs, wants, or wants to engage with. pointless trash.
Not every single one. Garrosh was uambiguously bad, as well as Deathwing.
>DEATHWING WAS A VICTIM OF THE OLD ONES CONSTANTLY WHISPERING HIM GAY THOUGHTS INTO HIS HEAD THROUGH MILLENNIA
>GARROSH WAS JUST MISGUIDED, BUT A TRUE LEADER OF HIS PEOPLE - HE WANTED HORDE TO PERSEVERE AT ALL COSTS
Poor victims!!
That statement was also a lie, though.
Actually I don't think the manual's lich king origin of 'was an orc' ever was in the main game though.
>Tichondrius was lying
Why the frick would he be lying?
>why would a dreadlord lie
Dreadlords don't just lie for funsies. They also don't just lie by default like they're incapable of telling the truth. When they lie, there's some kind of purpose behind it. What exactly was the purpose of telling Arthas that the Lich King made Frostmorne and that Frostmorne stole his soul?
>Tichondrius was lying
>Why the frick would he be lying?
I'm not doubting that Tichondrius would lie. I'm asking what the fricking point of that lie was if it was supposed to be a lie. If that was intended to be a lie (and it wasn't) what purpose did it serve?
>fricking frick
I don't know why. But the Lich King's armor and blade was made by demons in the original story, not the Lich King himself.
Perhaps Tichondrius was keeping the demons' secrets close to his chest. Either way, it's definitely a lie even originally.
He's literally referenced as Ner'Zul in the story and by undead units you dummy.
>Ner'Zul
Yeah, but besides that reference, is it ever explicitly stated that 'he was an orc shaman who was turned into the Lich King by Kil'jaeden'?
You mean in-game?
>KJ mentions to Illidan that LK is his creation.
>Scourge refers to LK as Ner'zhul.
>Ner'zhul is the orc leader during WC2:BtDP
Yes. It wasn't drawn out in game because you already had the manual but the connection was still pretty blatant.
>Actually I don't think the manual's lich king origin of 'was an orc' ever was in the main game though.
It's on the back cover of the cd case.
I remember me and my friend being mad for years over Max Payne 2 having entirely different time compared to 1. Vlad becoming a bad guy? Terrible.
>Vlad becoming a bad guy? Terrible.
If you didn't see it coming, you were a fool. He was obviously always going to betray Max sooner or later for the simple fact he's a criminal and Max is a police officer. They were destined to butt heads eventually.
Same
Better than 3 ignoring the secret ending from 2 that I remember working my ass off to get
>people only now are realizing blizzard slop is the same as capeshit
I was pretty forgiving of it for most of the games history, more thaqn most people I'd say, but it got so egregiously bad by Battle for Azeroth it was impossible to excuse, and by shadowlands it was beyond parody.
everything about current blizzard screams of some marketing exec going "marvel is popular, make it like marvel"
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Fallout 4's power armor.
All of Bethesda FO lore is horrible, endless recons just to justify their garbage plots and setting.
>fev is everywhere
>there are 2000 hidden bos bunkers everywhere
>its 300 years after the bombs fell but just as nukes because they fell harder
>BTW the Enclave are still around
>BTW that skeleton in the room next to your bedroom is still around
Draenei/Eredar/whatever they're called now.
As for Warcraft lore after WC3, refer to https://lorelol.ytmnd.com/
>potara only work for an hour
>the entire universe is just a giant MMO
Frick SO3's plot twist. It's fine in a standalone game but it kinda ruins everything else in prior and future games.
The rot started in TFT
Some argue moving from orcs vs humans in wc2 to wc3 *we must all ally against the demons* was the rot.
If you think of the uncanny alliances in wc3, then the wow horde/alliance cooperation was a natural progression.
Removing the war from warcraft.
That's just a change in theme. That's not the plot and setting themselves going to shit.
tft was the most fun game ever so it's ok
Correct, Sylvanas was a mistake from the fricking start.
Sylvanas was one of the best characters up until Legion.
Has the queen b***h been karma slapped yet for being a genocidal, traitorous bawd yet or is she still the writer's special snowflake waifu?
She got away with it because she was literally forced to be evil by the Jailer, and is now serving time in Super Hell gathering all the night elf souls she sent there (while also looking for her Boyfriend Nathanos Blightcaller).
She's a Windrunner, she's destined to be a race traitor riding Big Human wiener.
>she got a way with it
>she is in super hell
what the frick more do night elf schizos want
She's walking around Super Hell picking up souls while looking for her boyfriend and she willingly wants to do it, it's not exactly a punishement fitting of her crimes.
What do you want her punishment to be? For her to get fully unexisted while her victims remain in Super Hell?
I should clarify I'm not a night elf schizo, I hate them and I think its hilarious that they keep getting fricked by the story. I'm just saying the concept of Sylvanas even being "redeemed" by gathering all the souls while she also gets to look for her bf is frickin stupid, she doesn't deserve redemption, the whole soul split thing is moronic and removed all of her agency since she was practically forced into being evil meaning all of her actions since WC3 weren't even her own.
She did have agency, all that was her doing. What happened with the soul fragment was that she basically got her brain savestate from 15 years ago uploaded into her current brain.
She was split into fragments like Uther, it wasn't just her brain savestate it was her morals too.
That's moronic
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quite the opposite, everyone who ever opposed her is super dead, Garrosh died so hard he was written out of the timeline with no way to come back and Arthas was shat on by absolutely everyone, including Uther and Anduin who spent an entire patch fricking up everything due to corruption (notice the irony) and when the Jailer, who "unexpectedly" didn't her in his universe domination plan she threw a fit and she's the first quest giver after the cutscene, and everyone (including Jaina, Anduin, the leaders of the expansion capital, greymane and all the rest) stated they forgave her.
Someone decided to shitpost with how predictable wow was, he was wrong, somehow they managed to make it way worse
>Jaina AND Anduin forgiving Sylvanas
I'm sorry I asked and made you bring up painful memories.
Did you also want to know that Arthas' only appearance in the expansion was a formless wisp of his soul that got #GirlBossed by Sylvanas while Uther and Jaina stood there silently not having anything to say to the last remnant of the most important figure in their lives?
How does Danuser still have a job?
He does not
He doesn't, he "left" (got fired) secretly last year.
Halo retconning the Forerunners into a different species from humans will never not send me into irrational rage. 343 shit is NOT canon.
i don't get it, she looked exactly pretty much the same as in first game's DLC
I'm talking about the last one, the one stating Daud never stopped the killing and has decade old grudges. Billie is fine, if not 'not protagonist material'. And don't get me started on the Outsider.
D2's story was bad enough but man, DOTO was a mess
>What's the worst retcon you've seen from a game series?
pic related was literally Jesus and was trying to stop a bigger badguy all along.
but because Noctis died stopping him, Bahamut can now take over the world.
but don't worry, you can read THE TRUE ENDING NOVEL to get a happy ending
Actual canon is XV + Episodes Gladio, Prompto and Ignis and it's the story where Ardyn is a baddie and Bahamut is a goodie. Alternate timeline is Episode Ardyn + book and it's the story where Ardyn is a misunderstood goodie and Bahamut was the secret bad guy all along.
and yet fans bring up Episode Ardyn and the True Ending novel all the time as canon
>FFXV fans are moronic
Who knew. The second wave of DLCs were always supposed to be an alternate timeline with alternate lore, it's why Episode Ardyn alone already doesn't fit into XV's basegame
>the interactive map in the prison base shows geography that is wrong with the base game world
>base game says before the Invasion of Insomnia the city had had piece for a century but in the DLC Ardyn summons fricking Ifrit in the middle of the streets and starts bombing buildings like 20 years before the game
So on and so forth. It's also why the DLC ends with Ardyn being given a choice on whether to defy his fate or not, it was setting up future DLCs where he'd be "le misunderstood Jesus hero" and when the rest of DLCs were cancelled, their stories were instead put in a book
>their stories were instead put in a book
and by virtue of making them into a book, they got solidified as canon
What's that logic. If the DLCs had all released as planned, the stories in them would've been a what-if. Now that those same stories are written down in pages, they aren't any less of a what-if alternate scenario. It's canon that it is an alternate take non-canon to the basegame and its three squadmate Episodes, yes.
the fact they decided to release the cancelled DLC as a different form of media is enough to go "this is canon".
You don't waste time/resources for something that is a "what if" especially after the moronic "BAHAMUT WAS SECRETLY EVIL" twist that was added in the Ardyn DLC and therefore ruined the ending of the game
>the fact they decided to release the cancelled DLC as a different form of media is enough to go "this is canon"
Not really
>You don't waste time/resources for something that is a "what if"
You do if you're unbelievably moronic ie Tabata and the rest of XV's dev team. Did you forget about pic related? They were developing shit based on fan polls. We got an alternate timeline DLC before getting a fricking Hard Mode which the game desperately needs. It being a clown world doesn't make it any less true.
Episode ardyn is not an alt timeline. It's canon to the game. The novel is not game canon
so it's canon that XV has a bad ending where Bahaut Wins?
The game doesnt have a bad ending. Novel bahamut wants to kill all humans. Game bahamut does not.
Game Bahamut and Novel Bahamut are the same person
The novel and its ending are canon. It's literally the same as FFVII remake but wihout time jannies and there being only one timeline that changes instead of multiple timelines.
Bahamut in Stranger of Paradise even heavily implies that he's the same one from FFXV and that the events of the novel happenned.
>It's literally the same as FFVII remake
So trash fanfic, got it lmao
It would be if it was released decades later as a new story. But all of FFXV was released across many forms of media as single full story, which ended in the novel.
>released across many forms of media
>as a single full story
They were making it up as they went along you 'tard
>They were making it up as they went along
Obviously, but it really was a multimedia project as proven by Kingslaive, Brotherhood, the mobile prequel and the novel.
>Sora hits rock bottom in Hollow Bastion but still finds the courage to fight on with the help of Beast
>stands up to Riku despite being completely outgunned and outnumbered
>the Keyblade returns to Sora because he knows what true strength is
>although incredibly corny this is one Sora's most defining moments in the series
UM NO THEY KEYBLADE DOESN'T CHOOSE IT'S MASTER IT WAS A HALF ASSED RITUAL THAT LET RIKU HOLD ONE AND SORA HAS AN EXTRA SOUL IN HIM!
I hate BBS with a passion but I can't say that without sounding like a kh2gay, which I'm not
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This isn't a retcon, but I'd argue the Dark Age of the Law was.
Nah, the accidental prologue and other scenes make it clear that DR as an in-universe 'series' was a project by despair junkies unable to let things go basically kidnapping people and imposing their fanfictions upon them. The conclusion of the last trial has the culprit admit that they were just a poor copy of the original and the epilogue has Shuichi state that it confirms the events in earlier games did in fact happen.
I still feel V3 wasn't a screed against the fanbase as a whole, but a targeted strike responding specifically to the part of the fanbase that grew obsessed with making their own Killing Game fanworks, self-inserts and OCs.
It's similar to how the old SNL bit where Shatner screams GET A LIFE was construed as an attack on all Trek fans rather than the type of obsessive creeps shown at the convention.
Danganronpa is actually just a shitty TV show hahaha what a tweest
I loved the meltdown trannies had when their fiction was fictional even in a fictional world lmao
That's not a retcon you stupid b***h
troony detected. All that shit you played through NEVER HAPPENED in ANY Universe. Nothing of it is canon anymore except it not existing. It's a shitty show lmao
Yes it is you moronic frickhead
Pretty much all of Mortal Kombat 11.
I don't think any fictional world has been ruined quite so quickly and efficiently as Shadowlands did for Warcraft.
>Life and Death have no consequence because the afterlife is just life 2: the squeakquel
>All religion and idealolgies on Azeroth are fake, it's all 3D printed robot gods
>Every single event since before Warcraft 1 was masterminded by The Jailer completely removing the agency of every major character in every game before, it was all part of his master plan.
Name a bigger downgrade
>>All religion and ideologies on Azeroth are fake, it's all 3D printed robot gods
Wait, the Titans aren't the top echelon of divinity anymore? I quit playing ages ago, how does this retcon work exactly?
The Titans brought Order to the mortal realm, but they didn't create all existence.
The titans are no longer the creators, it's THE FIRST ONES(Original Characters by Steve Danuser do not steal).
Basically, there are 6 cosmic forces operating in the universe. Light, Void, Order, Disorder, Life and Death.
The First Ones are the OG creators, and it seems like they created the Titans as embodiments of Order, just like they made the Eternal Ones (in shadowlands) as embodiments of Death.
It appears that each cosmic force has their own dimension and a Pantheon of associated supreme beings, all created by the First Ones.
I see.
mass effect 3. its crazy how no one seems to remember what a shitshow that was
>Mass effect 3 came out 14 years ago
The Geth runback definitely counts
What happened with the Geth again?
‘The Geth were ALWAYS good boys they didn’t do nothin’
Tbh even in ME1 the Geth are at least partially
portrayed as victims of circumstance.
You can lecture Tali about how fricking reckless it was to create a sentient machine slave race and that the Geth were justified in revolting.
Because in a thread about retcons first we'd need to start with Mass Effect 2
What are you talking about there were no retcons in 2, Shepherd. Now be sure to get your thermal clips picked up before you go investigate those so called "reapers" you claim attacked the citadel. By the way your nerdy scientist friend is suddenly a mob boss and the soldier you saved from certain death isn't going to return the favor and help you out. If anything they might hate you, lmao.
3 was hilarious to me though because I actually knew a friend that romanced Jacob in 2 and got fricking cucked
>mfw they quit playing for months because of it and missed out on Marauder Shields and the ending bullshit, all because the BBC left her for no reason
>Marauder Shields
HIS NAME
he believed
>uhm actually those evil hairy savage humanslaying beasts were just ISLAND orcs, real orcs speak english and can coexist with humans perfectly fine (just not the king)
>What's the worst retcon you've seen from a game series?
Nearly every single sequel/prequel ever made.
Thermal clips.
That's not even the worst retcon in ME. It at least makes sense why they did it.
If the devs were smarter, they could have kept the overheat mechanic, but add thermal clips as an "Oh shit" button if you needed to instantly get more firepower ready in an instant and it'd make sense in canon after all the bullshit that happened in 1, having an extra tool in a swarm situation would be understandable
Viconia in BG3 is the most recent one to piss me off if that counts
343 Halo
I hate what WoW did to Arthas. The Frozen Throne had a perfect ending.
>"now we are one"
>just sits on the throne and goes AFK
how is that an ending?
Maybe if you played through the campaign you'd get it. The ending of TFT is pure unadulterated kino.
I mean it's not bad, but it's very open ended and I think it never was supposed to be the ultimate ending. They knew they were making WoW by then.
Just kidding Arthas just overpowers Ner’Zhul. Seriously why do wow devs hate Ner’Zhul so much.
They hate anyone who isn't Arthas, Jaina, Thrall, Illidan, Sylvanas and Grom from the original games.
Kel'Thuzad's been raped in SL. Ogrim died like a little b***h in Warlords. Ner'Zhul has become literal who in Sanctum.
The only ones who got to really shine are Khadgar and Gul'Dan, he was deliciously evil and deleted Varian.
>They hate anyone who isn't Arthas
I think you'll find they despise Arthas. He got reduced to a wisp/weapon enchant in Shadowlands and in the Sylvanas book he was a creepy pervert.
Kil'Jaeden feared the Scourge unchecked would go against his plans to invade Azeroth. It's likely he would have only attacked if the Scourge was gone.
WoW aside, if this were a WC4 world, the Lich King and his Scourge would have kept the Burning Legion at bay but if Azeroth went through a World War 4, absolutely for sure Kil'Jaeden would have taken advantage of the situation. It would have been a cold war stalemate between the Scourge keeping the Legion away and the Horde and Alliance too scared to deal with a looming Scourge threat.
WC3 is one huge retcon
How did the Lich King forge it if he's just Ner'zhul's soul bound to an empty suit of armor, and frozen in a block of ice?
Because Ner'zhul is a powerful warlock given even more power by the Burning Legion
how did he put a hammer to an anvil
He didn't need to. He's a wizard.
online leftists really talk about ACAB, demolishing the prison system, ending the death penalty, and focusing on rehabilitating prisoner
then their precious hippie tree gets burned down, and suddenly they want the culprit to be triple killed out of existence instead of working within the afterlife to save their victims because "they have not earned redemption, and I do not want to give them time to earn it"
Ar tonelico
A MAJOR plotpoint of the game was that Mir (the villain) was kept suppressed by burying her beneath an alter and having girls sing on top of her. These girls were essentially immortal and could go without eating, drinking, or sleeping, but this particular task was so taxing, that they could only do it for about 20-30 years before dying. At which point, they were replaced with a clone. Now, Misha, the game's indisputable Best Girl, was the last clone (they literally ran out) and was doing her job for a couple years before shit got disrupted, leading to the plot of the game.
Now, the person responsible for all of this nonsense is an administrator named Shurelia. She's the reason no better way was found in the meantime. She's the reason they ran out of clones. Her incompetence is beyond staggering. But here's the thing: she's the writer's darling. And apparently, the writer is so disconnected from reality, they somehow didn't realize how fricked up this situation is. It never occurred to them until people played the game and started talking about how Shurelia is a terrible person who pretty much caused everything.
So basically every piece of franchise media is full damage control, even containing outright lies which contradict the original game so that Shurelia did nothing wrong. They even went as far as to claim that all the previous clones didn't die, but instead went to some previously unmentioned retirement center where their every need or whim was fulfilled as payment for their services, etc, etc. About as believable as telling your kid that the really really old family dog was sent off to live on a farm. So when Misha was kidnapped, apparently, Shurelia didn't think to call one of these other clones (which were totally still alive) out of retirement after having years to recuperate. Yeah, none of this makes sense. It's bullshit. How the frick did someone so shit at writing get this job?
>telling people doing a demanding job for decades that they'll die at the end instead of knowing that they have a cozy life of retirement to look forward to
christ that is dumb
The worst part is that Misha's entire character development is dealing with the conflicting drives to live and keep everything she knows & loves safe. She flat-out states she does not want to die like this and it tears her up that she has to do it.
The retirement home retcon just completely shits all over everything that defines her as a character. All because a dev couldn't handle the fact that people didn't like his waifu.
I actually liked Shurelia but learning of this makes it harder.
Are you stupid, or don't you know even what a D-Cellophane is?
But well, having a working brain is too much to expect from an idiotic Mishatard like yourself, seeing how nothing about Misha's situation in the game makes sense, and she outright admits she's exaggerating her suffering so Lyner will be impressed with her and fall for her.
Also, how they can run out of Betas, if Platina is the only place in Sol Ciel that still has the technological and resources for making them?
Also, best girl? The one with as much character development as a piece of cardboard?
The Titans are putting chemicals in Azeroth's water supply to turn the dragons orderly.
>retcon your lore every single fricking expansion
>release what its supposed to be the definitive encyclopedia to explain what's canon and what's not
>it gets retconned the next expansion
I played all the way to the end of Legion and all the knowledge I hold is meaningless.