https://www.timeextension.com/news/2024/04/the-tourists-have-taken-everything-laments-japanese-resident-as-retro-runs-dry
>"A year ago, there were tons of Famicom Disk System games, but this is all that’s left. The PS1 section is half empty. The tourists have taken everything. I don’t bother shopping for retro games in big Japanese cities anymore."
>"I saw a guy just taking everything off the already paltry DS shelf. There [are] tons of people like him and very little anyone can do because it’s obviously not illegal. So I don’t even bother anymore."
>"I should specify that if you’re a tourist in Japan and buying these games because you genuinely want to play them, I don’t have an issue with you," Jia says. "It’s the people who clear entire shelves just to scalp them online when they get home that ruin the hobby here for everyone."
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
>Visit a few years back
>Evangelion for N64 was 3200yen
>Revisit a couple months back
>Same game is now 64,000yen
They raised the prices to hell and back and they know moron foreigners will still pay for it.
>talk about problem
>more people realize they can cause problem
>problem gets worse
Thread unironically got me to browse yahoo japan again.
This unironically, it's just telling moron grifters there is more grifting to be done
it will almost always do the opposite effect
tell people not to steal precious stones because people are selling them more people will come and steal more precious stones than ever.
>grifters
I know you are really happy to have almost learned that word from whatever zoom zoom e-celeb you watch, but the correct word here is
>scalpers
It's social proof. A sign saying "So many people are stealing! Please stop stealing!" will only increase the problem because it's normalized. A sign portraying a thief as a lonely outcast and a rare occurance will decrease theft because people don't want to feel like outcasts.
okay but why would anyone want those anyway. from what i understand only usa games have some collection value because that's the only place where collecting games is a thing
Japanese versions of retro games are usually cheaper than the US versions.
They are shelf ornaments for honest-to-God ‘jak millennials, not intended for play. It’s their equivalent of GI Gen grandmas having a china closet that hasn’t been opened since Kennedy got shot
This, they watch videos from soimasters like Stop Skeletons from Fighting where they show off their "super rare JP only carts" on camera or in the background and get the idea that they should do that too.
Well it's been going on for years, also last fall a glut of retrogame collectors got paid trips to buy retro games in Japan from sendico or some shit. You saw videos coming out day after day of then showing their retro game hauls while in Japan. Metal Jesus, that game boy brit zoomer, the Mexican Tito frick, and all of them complaining tourists ruined the prices then proceeded to go to smaller towns and raid their used stores.
>I don't care and I don't know anything about it but let me comment
I dont get why japanese games in particular but as an eurogay I can answer that.
Usa is frickhuge and the game is the same for everyone but in Europe people REALLY VALUE their region games not only because of nostalgia but because it Usually is in their language
French want french region games,Spaniards spanish region games, the germans german games,etc.
They are all PAL territory but not the same game,different language ingame,box,manual,...
(I wont discuss the 50hz thing)
Most Europeans have a very hard time comprehending that their entire country is smaller than one single state in the U.S.A.
Even Brazil is catching up to this thanks to youtube shitters. You can't even find a local copy of phantasy star for master system for cheap anymore
I thought brazil is 99% bootlegs
the Master System specifically was very, very popular there
Mostly for Nintendo, Atari and Playstation, But you can find original master system and Magnavox Odyssey 2 literally anywhere
The Magnavox Odyssey 2 is the Woody Woodpecker of consoles
That's cool. Do people there still play odyssey 2 and master system games? Or is it more like stuff that people try to get rid of
Only collectors. People talk about how we keep making sequels to the Master System but they are actually shovelware consoles full of bad games in the memory that are sold for cheap on supermarkets to trick grannies
God I fricking hate when homeschooled moronic Americans think we live in some sort of jungle.
Whatever, I suppose it's fine because you'll probably die in one of your weekly mass shootings anyways so who really cares.
Even PS1 repros are getting expensive because idiots want to make collector's editions with shit no one cares like maps on fabric and illustrations on cardboards.
hypetubers and clout. you're no longer a REAL retro gamer if you dont also own the game in its original jp release. its fricking autistic, same thing when people went apeshit for the jp pokemon cards. all because youtubers were telling people for YEARS that they were better quality and cheaper and then suddenly they started b***hing that people (scalper scapegoat) had stolen their little golden goose and raped it out from under their little wholesome hands
YouTubers are bigger scumbags than scalpers. If you can make a living off of 'collecting' you are scum. You are a parasite on society who produces nothing.
If you actually wanna play the games then they’re cheaper and they’re old enough and have so little text that you don’t really need to understand the language at all.
yea it's cheaper but i don't get buying those as collector items if you're not japanese or super weeaboo who wants to collect every japanese game for whatever reason.
maybe if the game was only released in japan then it makes more sense
grading scam drove up the prices of old games, now no one wants to buy old games, but people see that japanese games are cheaper so they buy those instead
the same people who drove up the price of old american games see there's a market for old japanese games, and they start doing the same shit, even though literally nobody (except for the people involved in the grading scam) buys games at those prices
it's an investment. they want to sell it for a profit in the future.
its an ‘investment’ to buy them now and wait for japanese versions to rise in price. some japanese games are pretty rare but also cheap because they are japanese.
its only a matter of time given the english collector market has went to shit.
PAL > NTSC every time
Before retro games it was beanie babies, before that baseball cards, before that postcards, before that tullips before that olive oil, i can go on for quite a while
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
homosexuals, all retro consoles are hackable and you can play every game you want for free on them. However these homosexuals don't play games, they just collect to sell or to brag
CollectionBlack folk want to buy them primarily so everyone else can't have them. It makes their existing shit worth more. Half the time they don't even keep the stuff, they destroy it.
>that one butthole that had a rare arcade cabinet (think it was the only one of its kind) that refused to let anyone preserve it in any way
Coomlectors don't actually play games, they just hoard them like dragons on their reddit shelf.
This is why its always a tragedy to hear some rare build/game got snatched up by a coomlector.
Watch as their autism for copyright law vanishes overnight despite it being a matter of criminal law over there. The old way only made sense in their swap-happy, high trust society.
Issue is that law won't change because boomers won't change it.
>mfw I can play all those games for free
Thank God for emulation, I say let the consoomers waste thousands of dollars on plastic crap if they want to.
God there's no person more subhuman than a scalper, especially an EOP doing this to make money off of other EOPs who will buy these games to be nothing more than "collectors' items".
Not wanting people to profit off or be able to sell things for real market value just because they are things you like is pretty retrarded Anon.
Found the scalper
I don’t want people to profit
profiting from reselling old garbage at 200+ is pathetic. Get a real job Anon
Why? If they ruin the quality of life for people it should be regulated. People who produce value, who create, should be able to gain wealth. Scalpels are just scumbags gaming the system and fricking shit up for normal people.
No one's quality of life is ruined by not being able to buy a video game. Scalping is bad but scalping video games, especially stuff that can be easily emulated, is hardly worth doing anything about.
Stop coping and defending this shit just because it's a luxury item.
It's still s fricking slimy practice and NOT at all what the market is suppose to be like.
Frick scalpers.
And people still arguing against emulation when shit like this happens.
Well the same people arguing against emulation try to sell you a crusty copy of SM64 for the price of a car.
It's also funny how scalping was never such a big issue until Normalgays entered the picture.
That's because homosexuals like you only want emulation to pirate shit
Name one thing wrong with piracy.
>pirate
buzzword
As opposed to giving my money to used game stores and eBay sellers?
Companies have proven multiple times that they wouldn't even piss on you if it mean putting out a fire.
So why should I buy their product?
6th gen emulation still isnt there yet and 5th gen still has a ways to go too. xbox is still unplayable.
>6th gen emulation still isnt there yet and 5th gen still has a ways to go too
You're absolutely moronic and most likely a tech illiterate tendie.
xbox is still 100% unplayable. dont care that much about N64 but people are always b***hing about how it has yet to have a good emulator.
>xbox is still 100% unplayable
It also doesn't have any games worth playing, so that's not a problem. PS2 emulation is fantastic.
>JSRF
>sega gt 02
>panzer dragoon orta
>PGR
>It's also funny how scalping was never such a big issue until Normalgays entered the picture.
"Ugh, I hate how these guys frick me in the ass"
>Normalgays start getting fricked in the ass
"HELL YEAH, I LOVE GETTING FRICKED IN THE ASS BY BIG BLACK wienerS HAHAHAHA GET FRICKED NORMALgayS"
Vince pls
>Barely have a retro gaming market so you start to sell older games by the boatload for dirt cheap
>Foreign country does have a retro gaming market so they start to scoop up everything while it's cheap
>"NOOOOOOOO THEY AREN'T LEAVING ANYTHING FOR US, MAKE THIS ILLEGAL!!!!! FRICKING WHITE PIGGUS!!!!"
Maybe they should have valued what theh had in the first place, I don't know what to tell you.
>how is it possible that this product that hasnt been produced in almost 2 decades is getting harder to obtain as time passes?!
Did you even bother to read?
>the richest people in the world (americans) realize they just can't buy ANOTHER ONE in their throw-away society (USA) so they have harvest other countries
Multiculturalism doesn't work
The only acceptable place for those games is in a museum. Collectors are autistic and scalpers are buttholes, a vicious cycle.
doesn't feel the same and you know it
If your enjoyment of a game hinges on external factors that's a (you) problem.
no I don't
Then get a flashcart.
Or mod your console.
Emulation isn't strictly a PC-only thing anymore.
Aren't these things also absurdly pricey now since the guy who made them was ukrainian?
just get one from alie
Only during the first few months of the war. I think he re-located his operations to Cyprus or Spain.
There’s a million factors that went into that nostalgic experience you’re looking for that you’ll never be able to recreate, its not just the hardware. You’ll spend hundreds chasing that original high like a moronic druggie
>I don’t bother shopping for retro games in big Japanese cities anymore
good job, now everyone will go to smaller cities instead
that's pretty low
and JP used/refurbished sections have pretty high standards for genuine customers
Why not just emulate these games? Sounds much easier and cheaper, do these collectors even play the games they buy? Do they just want pieces of plastic sitting in their room forever?
Aren't modded consoles illegal in Japan? That's one of the only ways you can get legally dumped rom files so I imagine the emulation scene there is smaller than it is in the West.
Yeah, they're mad because owning real hardware/software is the safest and best option for them, and now tourists are making it impossible. Honestly, I wouldn't blame them if they wanted to close their borders again.
you wouldn't modify a pokemon, would you?
I certainly wouldn't sell modded Pokemon, which I'm assuming was what that guy was actually arrested for.
>Why not just emulate these games?
Corporations like nintendo make that genuinely risky. Nobody wants to spend 5 years in the slammer because they were playing mario in a way nintendo did not approve of.
Why don't the companies just sell them in america then, nonamericans I swear
I think having a death penalty for scalping would be a good start. You should be flagged for selling something too far above market value, and if they find more than one copy of the item in your possession, you're executed on livestream. Easy fix.
>You should be flagged for selling something too far above market value
ok how about we start with food and real estate?
Sure, I'm not averse to that at all.
that sounds great
Did you think we'd be against that?
yes ofc since you cry about japanese video games and not the root of the problem (americans)
How are Americans the root of the problem, rabbi?
how are they not? this sclaping thing is a american phenomenon only
Are you moronic?
I remember this. That lady bought a bunch of Wii U thinking they were going to be as popular as the Wii, but she ended up losing money because nobody wanted them.
>anon doesn't know what market value means
Sorry, MSRP, my mistake. I forgot that "market value" is the problem here
When the switch successor comes out (assuming that it's still a hybrid with a dedicated docked mode and never needs to be taken out of it once setup), I plan on buying 2 and modding one to be watercooled in a completely different housing.
>Live in small area in Japan that gaijin tourists rarely visit
>Game and thrift shops have lots of older titles for very cheap
Feels good.
When I visited, I bought Densha de Go 1 and 2 on pic related, but I have a pirated PS2, so I can play them
>Buying from super potato
Not only are you a tourist but youre a dumb tourist
Super potato is for baka gaijin tourist morons, but it's the ONLY store I could fetch a copy of the first Ouendan!, and a Darstalkers 3 with spinecard. It was a little bit more expensive than I would've liked for, but cheaper than anything online and I could not find it anywhere else on the more than 30 stores I visited.
Otherwise yeah it's bait.
you did NOT look hard enough
you are the reason businesses that sell overpriced shit can still thrive, ew
It's really on the store. No one should be allowing one guy to come in and clean out entire shelves of items that are not restockable. They are choosing short term profit and kneecapping themselves long-term. Still, frick scalpers. Hope they don't move that inventory for years.
>stock is being bought instead of rotting on shelves
oh woe, woe is me. what a terrible problem to have
I really don’t get the whole collect Le old video games, and Le retro gaming. Console Games didn’t really get good until around the ps1 era. And why not just emulate or buy inauthentic copies. I have inauthentic weed vinyls, and they sound fine. I’ll never understand the mentality of retro trannies I guess it’s same mentality of the grown ass adults who pay thousands for Lego sets mummy and didn’t wouldn’t get them as kids.
weed vinyls, I meant ween.
>Console Games didn’t really get good until around the ps1 era
>not really get good until ps1
Video games have always been a digital medium.
You're a video game fan, not a video game box fan.
Let go of the collectooor brainrot.
Remember why you loved games to begin with (playing them)
Don't dance to the flute of scalpers and speculators
EMULATE
Who cares? This is only a problem for people who are too tech illiterate to figure out how to download torrents (or collectors, which are just as bad as scalpers).
This, but with flashcarts and burned discs.
Video games are interactive, mistaking it for being digital first is putting the cart before the horse. You can play sinistar on a computer like a rube but you'll never understand it unless you play it on the original 48-way. Emulaters will never understand this because their end goal is to play mario with a keyboard on moms computer.
>what are flashcarts
>what are burned discs
>what are modded consoles
>not emulation
Thanks for conceding!
One of the guys you initially replied to specifically mentioned flashcarts and burned discs
Also, emulation on consoles is a thing
Emulation on consoles is also a pointless novelty.
I believe you're a mentally ill elitist who values his childhood experiences maybe a little too much.
Asking for people to time travel to the "good old days" of your childhood just so they can play a game is beyond ridiculous. The experience is certainly not the same, granted, but the historical context has already changed so much it is simply not possible to go back. You can choose to be bitter about it, but it won't change the fact people can enjoy Sinistar in the modern age with much less effort and the game isn't less for it.
>EMULATE
in japan? lmao
they take piracy really seriously here, if you're a gaijin you'll get deported
>But Anons-Sama! We can't commit crimes because it is against the law, tbh!
Japan is cucked to corporations. They'll kick down your door for visiting archive.org.
Use VPN's.
If the Chinese people can access Ganker, X and Youtube, and Americans can Torrent files, then the Japanese can emulate games easily.
You don't get it, I need the plastic storage medium simply because it was made in 1989, you just don't get it
Holding the case in your hand, opening it up and seeing the manual/disc art, picking the disc up and putting it in your console, saving to an a dual physical memory card > double clicking a file on your ‘puter
Thirdies just don't understand.
CollectorBlack folk don't actually play videogames
you will own nothing and you will be happy, typical Ganker troony
>I hecking love physical media because it means you actually own the game and they can't take it-ACK
>Yeah but old offline games are different, they will be around for-ACK
i own something. You own nothing. Dead as it is, i own it. You don't
The discs don't really depreciate unless you're moronic with it. Even then, you can get it buffed and that fixes most damages except for the deep scratches.
prices have also skyrocketed. Whites are 3rd world shit-holers
Maybe it wouldn't have turned out this way if you retro homosexuals didn't do this.
So you're saying we execute Nintendo zealots?
Man I remember going on ebay and being able to buy a literal box full of JP snes carts for 50 bucks.
This is assuming that the buyer has a Super Famicom that can play these games. Nintendo was region locking their products since the Famicom, probably even earlier knowing them.
>buyer
>play
And we know most tourists aren't buying these games to play them, it's to display them on a shelf and post pics about how they have the "hoiper rare Japan-only Fire Emblems! Collection complete, reddit!"
Anon the retro game market isn't about playing games, it's about """making money""". They see these things as an investment. They don't give a flying frick about playing them.
and even if thay wanted to play those games, modding a console isnt difficult.
the super nintendo isn't actually region locked, you can just clip off 2 bits of plastic inside the slot so the japanese cartridges fit.
or if you don't want to modify the console physically, you can just use a game genie so the japanese game sits on top of the game genie.
>collectors
you mean resellers
I don't know any country besides the USA that has scalpers
Every country has them, it's just a bigger issue in the US because there's a larger pool of morons with too much disposable income that enable this shit.
>Every country has them
No it fricking doesn't you moron, wtf are you smoking?
Well where the frick do you live where nobody tries to make money by selling things?
Germany
Also
>to make money by selling things?
doesn't mean scalping you moron
5 second google search told me that germany had lots of people trying to scalp ps5s. I'm gonna blindly trust that
no you braindead moron the PS5 was rare for some time in every single country on earth because of it's very low production and not because germans were scalping
you are so fricking stupid it's insane
What is your definition of "scalping" then?
wtf is your point? we don't have scalping in germany ANYONE can buy a PS5 for the normal retail price
you're just mad that germany is a high trust society and we don't have to pay 70 dollars for zelda tears of the kingdom
Ok so you had scalping but now it magically has been removed because ps5s are in stock. Good for you. 😀 Better buy those new rammstein tickets before scalpers get them
They were definitely scalping them for a while just not on a larger scale. I remember when the PS5 was brand new. People were ordering PS5's on multiple websites like Otto or Media Markt and when they got more than one they just resold them for a higher price because there was such a high demand.
Ah yes, Germany. The country where scalping is such a non-issue that courts recently had to put a price cap to try to control ticket scalping. Cool story, moron.
>thread is about physical video game goods
>homie makes up shit with some random ass "control ticket scalping"
you good troony?
>NOOOO NOT THAT SCALPING
How are you this obsessed with Americans? This happens everywhere, people in Australia were going viral for scalping fricking toilet paper
>This happens everywhere
no it fricking doesn't you subhuman troony
sclaping is a american phenomenon only
Are all germans as stupid as you?
>subhuman homie in the usa has to pay 70 dollarinos plus tip for a new nintendo switch
>is mad at germans for some reason because of this
take your fricking meds troony
>claim that scalping doesn't exist in Germany
>get proven wrong
>n-no, i didn't mean scalping those things
You're a fricking moron.
>>get proven wrong
where?? you made shit up about some random ass tickets for god knows what without any kind of proof
take your fricking meds troony
It takes 5 seconds on Google, moronic troony.
https://archive.completemusicupdate.com/article/german-court-puts-significant-restrictions-on-ticket-resale-site-ticketbande/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/oisinlunny/2019/06/24/the-battle-for-15-19b-secondary-ticket-market-heats-up-with-first-europe-wide-anti-touting-law/?sh=47d9401a2e02
not clicking your homosexual fake news propaganda, americuck. Go choke on troony dick and corn syrup fatass.
the thread is about video game goods you braindead troony and not about your favorite obscure troony heavy metal band that nobody gives a frick about
you also never leave the basement why would you need concert tickets in germany lol
>They were definitely scalping them for a while
are you braindead or something? you could only buy 1 per customer... how is this scalping?
the ps5 was rare because of it's very very low production units and not because of a german guy that bought a ps5 on otto
homie take your meds
you clearly have never been to any german game store. Go back to your country
who the frick would want that jap asiatic moon rune shit? i am so thankful and appreciative everyday for emulators
This is what neoliberalism looks like
This. Intense rent seeking has infiltrated every hobby and market in recent years. Even things like old shitbox cars are being wildly inflated in price due to “hustle culture”. When you have a financial system that robs people of making a decent living through normal means this is the result. People can’t simply enjoy things, there has to be a profit to be made somewhere.
>People can’t simply enjoy things, there has to be a profit to be made somewhere.
this is how american children are raised, and the behavior is promoted via reality tv like storage wars and pawn stars, which show people that "your junk can be worth something too!"
>STOP USING THE GOODS AND SERVICES OFFERED BY THIS BUSINESS NOOOOOOOOO
>"if I consume it it's justified" goycattle response
no wonder you guys got completely taken over by israelites
return to tradition!
Do they expect these stores to just keep those in stock until they go out of business? That's why they want tourists to travel to their country in the first place.
Based nips gouge the frick out of the soi faced israelitetubers whose entire existence is amassing landfill filler plastic crap
Dog bless the emulators. Imagine if we had to deal with tihs shit just to play some Trolls in Crazyland.
Surprised this hasn't been a thing until now, honestly. Maybe it's only happening now because there are no more western video games, but even then, everyone always knew japan had more video games and the second hand market there was better. It is after all a better country.
Kinda a shame. I like buying the odd japanese game for the PS2/Saturn/Famicom. Those DBZ RPGs are fun.
Man that's fricked, really aught to be a law
this commie gayget purposely lies, everyone goes to akiba to get retro games
You can make a living off of that. Go ahead and cope with being a digital goy tho.
Yeah, places like Super Potato and Mandrake are pretty much finished, but least the tourists haven't seemed to figure out Book Off yet. I imagine having the word "book" in the name is what deters Americans from entering.
>I imagine having the word "book" in the name is what deters Americans from entering.
EL
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unironically, jokes aside, you KNOW that is the case, one way or another
Nope, last fall retro YouTube collectors went to Japan and released videos explaining about book off and such.
>store runs out of product
This loser probably had at least a decade to buy whatever he wanted but chose not to.
BruUuUUUUhHhhHHhh imagine paying hunnids/thousands of bills for these beep boop ass boomer games ctfu yall cappin
And what makes this even worse is the scalpers who buy those re-sell them to people who only use them as decoration for their soi-gamer room. And since emulation is illegal in Japan, the japs have no legal way to play them anymore.
If a nip orders a chinkbox360 will it get seized by customs or something?
>And since emulation is illegal in Japan
Emulation is illegal in every country, japanese people just obey the law and don't pirate
Emulation is not illegal, using unauthorized files for the program and illegally file sharing that will cross into the illegal territory.
emulation is legal in the US as long as you're not stealing code directly from the company, sony and nintendo got real pissed over that one, on another note in japan, even video game rental is illegal, so nintendo spent years in the 80s and 90s lobbying the US government to try and make rentals illegal here too
Aren't VCRs illegal there too, because you can "pirate" tv programs?
it's fine to record tv broadcasts as long as you don't share them. back when japan was trying to dominate the global electronics market, after they developed the VHS they didn't want an american company dominating their own market with foreign VCRs. which is why basically every VCR brand you can think of today, panasonic, sony, jvc, sanyo, ect were all japanese brands
> and Nintendo
Kek, tendie propaganda comes out already in the second sentence. Anyway the answer to this is make a game that people want to play for more than a couple of days homosexual.
after nintendo failed to lobby the us government to make video game rental illegal since first sale doctrine in america allows you to do whatever you like with what you bought since to rights to that particular piece of property transfers from the IP holder to their purchaser at that point, they decided to start suing video game rental stores for IP theft over things like photocopying the game manual when it was damaged.
once digital came around companies started making a hard push for gamers to go full digital since digital purchases don't qualify for first sale doctrine rights, meaning the IP holder retains all the rights and can restrict the purchasers access to it at any time. companies continue to fudge the numbers of digital vs physical sales to inflate digital sales to this day just to try and convince people to stop buying physical
Funny enough, in some niches there's a notion of reselling software licenses. Software for music and audio processing is an example, but it's a niche with a lot of vendors competing and no natural monopoly. Looking at this stuff makes me wonder why indie game devs have to suck off Gabe when softwate sales have been decentralized since shareware times.
nintentroony spotted
I was at a convention recently and they resell these at booths for huge mark ups because they're Japanese. Scalpers gonna scalp.
>I was at a convention recently and they resell these at booths for huge mark ups because they're Japanese.
Cons are different because orginizers will try to squeeze out as much money as possible since depending on the size their profit margins are pretty low. I remeber one where they sold common dragon ball manga translates at a 75% compared to book store prices. They always squeeze newbies.
*75% markup
I cannot fricking STAND these con scalper homosexuals. I tried talking to one last year, just to try and understand their mindset. He basically bragged about doing exactly what is in the OP - he travels to Japan yearly to stock up on games to sell at his booth.
>Oliver Jia
why is a non japanese complaining about this?
He looks Jomon to me
Do these collector morons understand that disc rot exists?
Feels good to be a Sega chad. Nobody gives a shit about our hardware or gaems. Nintentoddlers can seethe.
I miss when games that came out even just 3 or 4 years ago were really cheap.
Good
hoarders (peak millenial goyslave golem-core) deserve to be screwed over by any means possible
extract as much cash from them as you desire
imagine hoarding a bunch of plastic boxes to never touch them, maybe post a photo of their gaming gooncave on reddit and put that shit back on ebay at 10x its original price even if it's a mediocre 5/10 mid game
There is hoarders doing it, but most of it is likely just scalpers tied to the WATA games shitshow.
its not even horders. horders never sell their shit. its scalpers that want to make a quick buck and are not gouging jap games even though jap games are usually cheap as frick because covid fricked everything and made everything 10x the price because moron normies had nothing to do.
>gaijin complains about tourists
Collectors are not even human
>japan loses retro gaming
>slowly but eventually transitions to PC gayman
I see nothing wrong with this.
>japs must be like us
i hate you Black folk like you wouldn't believe
PC gaming is a net benefit to everyone.
PC gaming is why games are garbage now; because everyone is expected to have $2000 custom-built, devs don't optimise their shit anymore. Furthermore, console games are always better. There hasn't even been a big-budget PC exclusive in like a decade.
Japs don't play old games. They have a very consumerist culture that puts strong emphasis on new=better, they're constantly throwing perfectly good stuff out and replacing it with newer stuff. It's why their old games were so cheap for so long, too. Because nobody wanted to play them. The average Jap thinks Scarlet/Violet is better than Ruby/Sapphire simply because they're the newer games.
>devs don't optimise their shit anymore
You think they were ever going to? Everyone having the same hardware or not doesn't matter to Pajeet.
>There hasn't even been a big-budget PC exclusive in like a decade.
This is my favorite consolegay cope. It always has to be "big-budget" and "exclusive" to be better than console slop. Implying that AAA has had anything worthwhile in the past 15 years.
No one there wants to transition into being a PCsister
Emulation is illegal there.
They won't.
Emulation is illegal in Japan and the average Japanese bedroom is too small for gaming rigs or even home consoles. That's why they all use handhelds and phones.
Well, this is capitalism for you
When a game shops sells games?
This is why I emulate everything now. These homosexuals ruined a great hobby 20 years ago.
piracy is the solution, if you buy anything older than 10 years, you're a fool
it's literally illegal in japan
I think you can get fricking sued for streaming a game
what is a vpn and who cares about streaming
also, japs are moronic
thing is, they're not technologically advanced, they're like boomers
they still use the fax machine or whatever it's called
they cannot pirate
they can't use shit like word and powerpoint in college
they were using fricking flip phones everywhere up until recently, and they still use them
You're fricking moronic brain damaged Black person
how, moron
everything I said is true, look it up, or ask japs
Even if everything was true it's better than anything your stupid fricking c**t has
Japan has stores where you can take a bunch of copic markers for a refill
They have art supply stores that specifically cater to architectural modelling with products like miniature astroturf and wood panelling
You can buy dlsite tokens at grocery stores
Literally OP is about stores that resell video games and that's a big enough market to support multiple chain stores all over the metro area
Fax machines are like pdfs in email except you don't get viruses from them, not having widespread piracy is why japanese entertainment exists, the only reason why americans use MS office in school is because the government thought it would be a good idea to put microsoft in charge of computer education, japanese flip phones could always access internet and email and had flash porn games, something your stupid iphone can't do in 2024
Outside of japan you literally can't buy good art or design supplies, you can't buy porn with a credit card, you can't buy old video games at a fair price and gamestop is going bankrupt despite holding a monopoly, you can't receive a document without using a computer, there isn't any entertainment that's even worth pirating, people don't know what a file system is, and everything that your smartphone does for you is show ads and play a japanese gatcha game.
You might as well have said that the japanese are moronic because anime has panty shots. Japan is the only country on earth that matters.
now this, is a weeb
Yeah two nukes totally weren't enough there's no quality to anything japanese other than that it's le bad
Hey I didnt say you were wrong.
bro, I never said japan was shit, I was just pointing out that japs are moronic when it comes to PCs and technology
sheesh
bro are you really defending fax machines, fricking hell
Yes.
Fax machines are not evil. It is not morally incorrect to use a fax machine.
no, using fax in 2024 is fricking moronic and so are people that use that shit
No, they're not. Doctors, lawyers, government offices still use them because they're a secure way to send documents like stated previously. Your personal opinion is literally irrelevant
There is 0 security in a fax machine, no encryption in transmission
There was a TV show showing off an on rail robot going around delivering xrays and other things on CDs around a hospital and daying how great it is and how amazing we are (Japan). Rest of the world would just use a network.
Same thing happened with COVid numbers having to be submitted via fax and census stuff from prefectures having to be done on floppy.
>he thinks le internet is secure or private
LMAO
>but but but NSA approved encryption
LMAO
How do you email a urine sample?
put a puddle of your piss on a scanner.
>entering a number and being done sending a document is moronic
>you better scan it, and then enter an e-mail and send it as a post card, without proof of receipt, that's not moronic
the latter is moronic, you are moronic
Japan is the most equal country and among the most developed countries worldwide. Japan has an incredibly diverse and sustainable economy and one of the strongest arts and entertainment sectors in the world.
Fax machines are clearly the cause for this. They are obviously both economically and morally good. The positive societal effects of using fax machines are far greater than the positive societal effects protestant christianity. Fax machines have no negative societal effects.
>fax machines are not evil
>no
they're good because they filter morons
to be fair their garakei flip phones were far ahead of the rest of the world for the longest time.
it's literally why they didn't use PCs for the internet for the longest time (besides otakus and rich people) since literally everyone had a phone that could connect to the internet.
The west barely ever had that til shit like the blackberry and iphone
They were late to transition to smartphones since garakei were still competitive for a while until they werent
>the country that literally first uses robots and ai in the world are tech illiterates
Lol
Unironically, yes. It's the turboautists doing that shit, everyone else is moronic.
they have a bunch of servers that run on floppy disks. japan is the main reason why microsoft still creates its software and updates on floppies.
Imagine if everywhere in the world had the gaming industry of japan
things would be so good
I might actually play a video game
Uhmm, that's free market, chuderson? Isn't that what you defend on this /misc/ adjacent board?
People have been doing this for longer than this moron has been alive. Also, the irony of an American in Japan saying this shit.
If a jap orders one of these or equivalent will it get seized by customs or something?
Why would someone use such a piece of shit?
That thing looks amazeballs!
Total Westoid Death when???
They are destroying Nippon...
ITT: Black folk who only play games on PC, the platform with no Physical Disk drives, who also used Emulation on PC (because it's simply better are far superior than real hardware) are upset that they couldn't collect the games before they got into the hands of a greedy scalper.
note* PS5 games install on your hard drive, they're not physical.
Xbox games use "Smart delivery" which means all physical Xbox Series games are Xbox One games with a Series digital download upgrade code.
Nintendo is the only console were you can still have 100% real physical games, you gonna post that sick collect of Switch games anon? No? Ah, it's because you play only on Steam. You've been digital for years.
If you can't stop someone from taking something, they deserve it more than you do.
Black person mentality
It's very simple. Want. Take. Have. If you don't like it, either stop being weak or stop whining. This world belongs to the strong, and the weak have gotten too comfortable.
>durr muh wurld of STRENTH
Jesus I can't stand it when idiots try to sound like cartoons
I could take your wife/gf if I wanted to, because I can tell my desire, my will, is stronger than yours.
Exactly. British wanted moar land, oh look! America! But there's people-FRICK THAT LETS TAKE IT!!! ITS OURS NOW!! MINE!! MINE!! MINE!!
Then America was like AYO HOLD UP this is MINE now yours you british Black folk. FRICK OFF.
And that's how we got America. The world belongs to the strong!
It was more like we kept poking them until they got irritated enough and left
>trying to lighten the blow
spoken like a true strong world order american anon. I'm kneeling. what's mine is now yours
What can I say I walk softly and the ladies love my big stick
homie you're on Ganker, if we ever did go back to a "survival of the fittest" world you'd be one of the first on the chopping block.
I get that it's a high trust and well functioning society and everything and people expect to respect each other, but I can't help but find it really pathetic how the average jap is such a stickler for rules that they wont ever pirate anything
it's not about the rules, they don't know how to pirate, and it's actually illegal
literally nothing is stopping someone from typing TORRENT使い方 on google and downloading a vpn
theyre just scared
they don't know how to use that shit
they're just NOW getting into PCs thanks to fricking vtubers, of all things
they still have the console peasant mentality, PCs are consoles to them, that's why they love steam, it's easy and centralized
In all seriousness, do you actually think VPNs stop the government?
The most pathetic thing I see out of Japanese is censoring all of their artwork. Artwork is something that should be treated as sacred and shouldn't be pixelated and covered in black bars. They should grow a spine and stand up against that. If everybody in Japan drew dicks and clits without censorship, the authorities couldn't stop everyone.
Wow you really dont understand asian cultures at all huh
Rebelling is not seen as something virtuous but as something wicked, the first people to come after you for rebelling against an unjust law would be your fellow opressed
that shit's the most fricked up, and they obviously draw such beautiful genitalia when decensors correctly match the artstyle
I pray that them and especially Korea rectify their shit in my lifetime
you get outright fricking deleted in Korea for simply drawing porn
the police busts your ass for pirating over there anon thats why they dont do it
you cant even modify your save data or use mods
then why are so many of my peers on nyaa and sukebei torrents from japan?
1 because its not overt and in the open
2 because they arent Japanese racially they simply live in Japan, there are hundreds of thousands of immigrants and I bet most of them pirate since they did so in their countries of origin
what's that jap site to buy cheap consoles again?
what did they expect?
its the stores fault for selling to gaijins
>youre moronic
>no youre moronic
>no youre moronic
y'all of you are moronic
I blame the rise of scalping as a culture. There are entire sites devoted to enabling scalping (especially for shoes, holy shit is that culture poisonous), and the rise of discord has created scalper communities where they share their purchasing bots and shit like that.
>t. someone that looked into getting a bot so I could attempt to buy one PS5 for myself in 2020
>buying a PS5 at launch
Thought the Japanese would buy them to play then trade it all back in.
How big is emulation in Japan? I mean as the last option for playing retro games?
Almost non existent in the public sphere, in private who knows
All Japanese Vtubers, even independent ones have to buy the real cart and play on repro consoles if they want to stream an old game
You know whats crazy? These old games dont run on their consoles. AJP nes cartridge will notvrun on a an american NES. Only on famicom
You're implying that the people buying these games are planning on playing them.
>what are adapters
Anon, that hasn’t been a problem for, like, decades.
This is why you have a separate backroom catalog for preferred customers.
they don't gaf about "muh customers"
americattle will buy that SHINY RARE MARIO WORLD EXCLUSIVE DELUXE YERROW EDITION AND KNUCKLES that used to cost 2 yen for 500 dollars without blinking
Question to the torrent experts here, your isp wont be able to tell that youre torrenting shit if they're from a private tracker right?
If they want to know they will know
They just wont bother to know because millions are doing it
they see everything you do, anon. Best to just go to your local library and use their internet to pirate stuff. It's what everyone does.
This will create mustard gas in the library. Be advised.
So they know i'm on Ganker all the time? Am i safe?
If what you're doing uses the internet, your ISP knows what you're doing.
Your ISP quite literally does not give a shit in most cases. They only give a shit when a copyright holder contacts them because they were monitoring the torrent, but your ISP will not provide any information about you to the company that filed the request because they legally cannot.
You will get emailed a warning, but as long as you don't get multiple warnings back to back then your ISP will just let you carry on.
Pay for something real Real-debrid and use direct downloads if you are so paranoid.
I hear about this ISP warning shit all the time but I have never experience it. You Black folk must be downloading 1TB of shit a day or something. I've been downloading stuff on the internet since the days of fricking Napster and never once got hit with a "STOP DOWNLOADING SHIT WE CAN SEE YOU!!!!!"
it depends on what you download. I've only ever gotten dinged for downloading Disney+ shows day 1 and Square Enix games
I got dinged one single time for downloading the Sims 4 off of what was probably the most popular torrent
They can see everything you do but in the vast majority of cases they won’t do anything since having you paying them as a customer is more important.
The only time I think they would flag you is if whatever your torrenting gets a complaint (say you pirate a AAA game day 1 and the company gets mad and sends them a letter), then they’ll probably send you an email first and keep your account under closer scrutiny.
But if your torrenting niche Japanese shit where the developer went bust 20 years ago and there’s no legal way to buy it they won’t give a frick.
If you're in the EU, they won't even bother sending an email, litterally everyone does it, from movies to music to software
In germany, they're more anal about it because law firms will pester the ISPs until they give in for an easy payout
Idk about the US but I think torrenting isn't illegal but uploading is?
Anyways, in my country, the cyber cops litterally don't give a shit
I used to collect old vidya, but not in a compulsory way, just thing I liked as a kid and wasn't able to get or stuff that looks interesting, but not anymore, there is literally no point.
I enjoy my current collection and years ago I started to get into painting cars/models, just another expensive hobby that has been skyrocketing lately, fricking hell.
What’s the difference between someone buying all these vs letting them rot on the shelf for years?
If you had years to buy something and didn’t then I don’t see why you should complain when someone eventually does.
People want the option even if they don't use it. Like a happily married person still wants to be chased even if they have no intention of ever cheating.
People become scalpers because they don't have a job or shame. They could be earning so much more money doing an honest day's work.
They have jobs most of the time, these people just want to get rich fast with no effort, its the same people as the cryptobros
When I hear people talking about investing in TCGs and shit I just want to kill them
Isn't it ironic that boomers are making action figure collecting unbearable with their scalping homosexualry and millennials are ruining retro gaming the same way.
I was there 4 month ago and FF7 International and MGS3 Subsistence for 2000yen. The shelves were stacked and prices were crazy low.
This literally who is just angry over nothing.
its people buying at Superpotato toka
I dont care I emulate everything
Let the idiots fight for their rotting plastic and circuitry
>put thing for sale
>it sells
>but it's le bad because it's a small group of rich foreigners
I bet this yellow Black person wouldn't complain if it were a small groups of rich jap nerds buying all the retro stuff in Japan
>but it's le bad because it's a small group of rich foreigners
welcome to the real world when one day you can't even rent a flat because of this
We are already there
Canada moment
No its because of the immigrants
it must've taken a lot of effort to acquire your level of moronation, so congratulations
>buy up entire stock of things people enjoy or desperately need
>sell at incredibly marked up prices like a israelite
>cry out as a victim when people call you a greedy disingenuous Black person
Japan is obsessed with hating on Americans so I don’t give a frick, cry about it Black person. Meanwhile I can buy a used mini PC off eBay for $100 throw batocera on it and play everything through Gen 6 no problem lol. Not my fricking problem, learn to emulate/get a mister/get flash carts. You guys are actual weeb queers who are upset your little Japanese zoo gets disturbed, you’re getting upset on behalf of the zoo animals you freakishly worship and observe from a distance.
Scalping should be illegal with heavy sentences. Frick Black person scalpers, especially scalping in emergencies. Why is it always obese homosexual boomer americans who defend it. Its always the crypto bros too. A scammer culture as big as the chinks
Hmmm I wonder if the poor store owners are pretty happy with that or not where thing they put on SALE are actually being SOLD. Fricking twitter morons...
scalp scalpers
oh hell yeah a twitter screencap thread
I lived in Tokyo for a while and the only old games I bought were ones I wanted to play or old childhood favorites. I've heard that tourists have been flooding into Japan since the covid lockdowns ended. I can't even imagine how bad Nakano Broadway is now. Chink and SEAmonkey tourists are easily the worst. Finnish are the most autistic.
>finnish
theyre mongols, german eugenics proofed this 100 years ago
>Use buyee for years to pick up vidya/anime merch from jpn only events
>2020-21 buyee starts getting popular with normies either trying to get cheap vidya or overpriced clothing
>Now most buyee users completely block or just straight up dont answer back when a person who wins the bidding is someone using a collection agency or has an address outside japan
All good things must come to an end
fricking gaijim
you do buy all vidya
what the frick is wlong with u
you cant even japanese
More Japanese sellers need to start using eBay. It's really easy to sell on there and they're missing out on the entire rest of the world as potential customers.
JUST EMULATE, YOU BUGS!
>Bu bu bu Nintendo!
Frick Nintendo!
>JUST EMULATE
/thread
For real: The Retro market is so moronic with Emulators around.
The only homosexuals who dont think scalping should be illegal are the scalpers. Bring back cutting off hands for this kind of shit
This is not quite the same as scalping, because these people resell the game in another country, so they do provide a service.
at a massive mark up, its scalping/reselling
Consider, they paid for the trip to carry some cartridges in the luggage. Of course it's going to be a massive markup.
then dont go to the country to mass buy up games to sell for profit. homosexuals get out of my fricking hobby
>things were for sale
>they got sold
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I love retro games and I find that the inflation on the price of such things is ridiculous, but being upset at things on shops being sold is ridiculous.
being a greasy israelite buying up an entire stock to resell without thinking of other people who just wanna enjoy the games is Black person/israeli thinking. you're just admitting you think like a subhuman without empathy
You only have “empathy” in this scenario because you’re a swarthy weeb, you don’t care about empathy in any other scenario besides Japanese video games shut the frick up lol
shut the frick up greedy israelite
Upset because exposed weeboid
you're the kind of homosexual who bought into NFTs and crypto arent you
No I emulate extensively lol, I’m not paying a cent for games where I can play them for free with emulation enhancements or mods/romhacks on top of that fact.
>See a tourist taking every DS game in the store, doing the thing you're shitting your diaper over
>"Man, I'm going to lay into that guy on twitter in the coming days."
OUT OF MY WAY, TOJO, I GOT FAMICOM GAMES TO BUY.
>"Ahhhhh, gomen gomen Americhad, I get out of way, gomen gomen."
Nothing will change until Japanese men grow some nuts and download more testosterone.
t. getting replaced by Tyrone and Rico Gonzalez
>being a savage, rude piece of shit is based
this is why america is a low trust society. lose weight
literally a non-issue
I swear to Gyadd, a lot of consoles are in their twilight years. If people want to buy and play these, it'd be a good thing before these games entirely die and decompose
>DUDE WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING THINGS IN STORES?
Why are non-Japanese like him so obsessed with fitting in? He will always be just as much of a tourist.
Why are the japanese so cucked? They're terrified daddy nintendo will rape them if they just emulate?
>They're terrified daddy nintendo will rape them if they just emulate?
Yes
this headline is kinda misleading since he was arrested for selling romhacks rather simply tampering with save data. not that I think he should have been arrested at all, I just hate clickbait.
100% of all lost games and game systems in the u.s. are due to boomers throwing them away
i just steal from anyone selling games above the original launch price.
it's used, old, and in a constant state of degradation, value does not increase. this applies to all electronics and homes.
Emulation is super illegal in japan, I wonder if all of the retro video games going away is going to change some laws there
Fake news. Emulation and piracy has made physical worthless. Frick off and take your bullshit with you.
>Worthless
Tell that to the dead eyed soulless soifaced "check out my game room" type they're the ones buying this shit and hoarding it like it's an investment
piracy is less common in japan due to people fearing getting arrested for it or just some dumb notion of civility, it's why finding japanese raws for manga outside foreign websites used by scanlators and weebs trying to learn japanese is basically impossible.
>stores start having seperate prices for natives and gaijins due to foreigners buying games to flip overseas with gaijin having to pay thousands of dollars more than natives
>build a store to trade in old goods that aren't made anymore and people buy to collect
>wow uhhh why is our stock drying up?
collection is fine, you only need one game for collection. its the Black folk buying up 15 of each game to sell for thousands in a pretend scalpers market built by art scammers
>torrenting games when direct downloads exist
uh... why? aren't direct downloads supposed to be much safer than torrents?
>frogposter
>being dumber than the blackest gorilla Black person
i agree. all japanese stores that sell old video games should just rot and have to close like the many others that have shut down
Oh no those poor shops have increased their profit by 1000%, the horror!
>live in Tokyo
>don't see this at all
Nice clickbait.
By the way, the japs don't buy "retro" games at all.
Every time I look at the ridiculous prices that certain games cost nowadays, I almost want to cash out. I never used to think about selling anything before, but a number of games being worth several hundred dollars each makes it very tempting.
Just buy fake sealed boxes from china and sell those
It's not like it's a scam if the buyer doesn't even play the game, it's exactly like emulation in fact because the empty cardboard box is emulating a game box and it's exactly the same experience
You had better do it soon, because people are going to realize that it's a money laundering scheme like beanie babies, and stop trying to speculate on video game cartridges that are not, in fact, rare.
That won't happen until millennials start hitting retirement age. They're the entire reason the retro game market is fricked.
anon its all fake, its a scammers market and they set the prices and occasionally buy from themselves to keep the lie going.
Careful, anon. You wouldn't want to be the one who regrets it later on.
I dont blame scalpers I blame the buyers
Id only blame scapers if they were scalping bread or something people actually need
Exactly it's not even scalping if the only people in the market are "collectors". It's not fricking bottled water or gasoline who gives a frick if your plastic crap is overpriced just don't buy it
The buyers are the scalpers. It's a tax evasion scheme.
>I dont blame scalpers I blame the buyers
Thing is, this is the same problem as with gacha. There isn't really much of a market of "buyers," at these prices, just a few whales. Scalpers collectively remove games from the regular market, then charge whatever they want, hope some rich idiot wants exactly that one game, and then everything else will all have been worth it.
I went to Japan last November and bought all the original Gameboy Pokemon games from 5 different retro gaming stories.
I apologise, Nihon.
I bet the store owners were happy. How can stores stay in business if gaijin aren't coming in buying their stock?
Old video games are not rare. They are NOT.
There are millions of copies of Pokemon and Mario and whatever the frick, and you can try to use unopened copies to run a tax scam, but it will not make them rare. Eventually, idiots will catch on.
The guy that wrote this tweet is such a weirdo, American protecting Japanese stores because... foreigners buy their products??? It's not just tourists that buy these and end up scalping them. A lot of Japanese people re-sell, as well.
Just came back from Japan last month. The yen is so fricking bad compared to the USD my fiance and I lived like kings. Didn't buy a lot of clothes, just had wagyuu dinners for like 24 bucks and bought a lot of rare clothes.
in japan old games are extremely cheap and usually in very good condition
in america the same game would cost 100 times more
I'm not sure what this moron is talking about. Went to Tokyo last week and there are still tons of retro games in the heart of Akihabara, which is tourist central for nerds and maid cafe enthusiasts
>Oliver Jia
>The Tourists have taken everything.
he looks like hes at least half japanese
Oliver Jia is the perfect midwit, bred and built in some unholy lab making the most lukewarm, midwit centrist takes that manage to piss off everyone.
I think sending scalpers to a labor camp where they don't get fed if they don't manually labor the value of their feed while working on paying back the society the total amount scalped would be more ironic of a punishment.
2nd polish republic did that to "people" who scalped food and coal for fuel, they got grabbed off the street and sent to a fun camp to learn the value of money, hard labor and food.
>Spoiler
Nice to know my country was based for once
Being fat in general.
Loathing and violence against foreigners is always justified as a default position..
The retro market makes me sad. Especially now that thrift stores have also started charging insane prices for games now or just put them up on their online stores only.
>$333 per game
>Including a bunch of shit games that aren't even popular
WEW lad
Technically, that is a goodwill auction site and other bidders are causing the high prices. I have gotten a good amount of stuff from their online ebay site and only had one issue with a PS1 with corrupt BIOs and a N64 controller that has a broken shell(the stick is tight on it though). Funny enough, I reordered another PS1 and it came in a PS2 box.
I can't speak for other thrift stores, or thrift stores in the US, but our practice for games was to just look up the eBay price and cut like 10% off.
ebay scalpers are 100% the cause of prices going up in these stores too. If we priced them lower, the vermin who come into our stores to look for steals would just buy and resell them.
You immediately get to know who is there actually to buy things, and who is just a reseller.
100% males in my experience, I have literally never seen a woman doing the "scan through every DVD box set or video game" routine
Mid-30s on average I'd say, slightly overweight. Not neckbeard neets, but not full on boomers either, a nice middle ground.
i got an sfc because the games are like a third of the price and i dont give a shit about the language outside of the rpg's
I worked in a charity shop (basically a thrift store in the US I think). 90% of people who price the products that go out onto the shop floors in these places are unironically over 70 years old, it's usually elderly women volunteers, but I was the only person who priced vidya games because I was the only person who knew anything about them.
I hate nothing more than the living scum that would come into our store, pull out all the video games, and scan them one by one on their phones to see if they can scalp anything.
Luckily for us I always priced these things correctly, so they could rarely make a profit worth their time, but because I saw so many of these "people", I know it must work out for them in other places.
I hate these parasites. Every time one of them walked into the store and parked themselves at the games shelf, just lifelessly scanning through them all looking for those potential pennies of profit, I would just seethe, and laugh when they left empty handed.
what kind of person is the average scalper? most of the time they seem to be disgusting obese boomers
i always imagined them as obese 30-40 somethings. boomers scalp toys, not games.
From my experience: hispanics and Black folk in hoodies. Also, single moms.
Imagine trying to make a profit out of a charity shop. However these people have some utility in making your stock available online.
I wonder if flipping shit from thrift stores is even viable these days with the internet. I guess the best someone can do to make a profit is buy ugly/broken shit at a thrift store and restore it, but at least that takes more work than just listing shit on ebay right after you buy it.
not anymore.
goodwill employees look stuff up and if its got a good price, they’ll auction it
In my experience we've rarely, rarely ever let out electronics (including related things like vidya) for a price that you could significantly flip, these products are nearly always researched before being priced.
There's exceptions though, I've seen high-tier clothing brands being put on the discount rails, people finding $50 hoodies for the equivalent of half a buck.
I don't mind these situations too much though, if someone gets a steal on clothes, they're usually actually going to wear them, they came in looking for things to wear in the first place.
you'd be surprised. Nothing is sacred anymore
So gamers, what's your favorite gaming stuff you've personally PLUNDERED and DEPRIVED the nation of Japan from? For me, it's gotta be
>An N64 copy of Bangai-O, only 10,000 copies made which is only half of what Clayfighter Sculptor's cut, the erroneously titled "Rarest N64 game" has. Great game, too
>Killer7 Gamecube, really cool it does anime but in reverse where the cutscenes are in english and have Kanji dialogue
>Platinum gameboy player, frick Nintendo of America for only giving us black as a color option
>AV Famicom and Castlevania 3, good stuff
I have a japanese dreamcast but I bought it locally at a perfectly fair price
Did you go to Japan or were you buying online?
Oh yeah, almost forgot
>White Smash 4 gamecube controller that's been my main gamecube controller for a decade now. Took good care of it, thing still works perfectly
Online, I'm not paying thousands of dollars in traveling expenses to get cool cheap shit
>Japanese archive owner laments that foreigners paid him money for the games he sold
Frick off
>Buy 3ds from Japan
>Hack it
>Have all the fricking games I can ever want to play on an sd
frick collectors, I will have this last longer than any collection
what the point ? they can't read kanji nor start the game on their console LOL
They'll sell it to another, bigger fool.
I can do both. seethe
I'm honestly sad when I read about people who buy out everything old and collective for sole reason to scalp it online. It's like their whole life is dedicated to making money on any other way than honest job. Nothing have value for them, only money. American obsession.
Now show the e-girl porn game section. kek
Imagine some clueless, fat, Richard Evans-looking guy comes to Japan to scalp a bunch of video games, but he has no clue about games, and accidentally buys an entire shelf of e-girl hentai games.
funniest experience while buying games was looking at the ameritards get excited over pokemon games. The pokemon games were always sold out everywhere lol. I thank god daily for not making me a nintendo dick rider
In Japan, the original Pokemon Gameboy games are so prolific that they are totally worthless. I used to buy them for 100 yen to use them as mini-postcards. I would write messages on them and mail them to friends as a joke. I would laugh so hard if they scammers and tax frauds are now selling them to each-other for hundreds of dollars.
>gave hundreds of thousands of dollars away
yeah great joke buddy
OK moron. I bet you own dogecoin.
why
The reason japanese retro game prices sky rocket are the western pigs that scalped their American versions. Everyone went to get the cheap japanese versions instead. but now both versions are scalped to hell. its the western pigs fault for this.
I yearn back for the olden days when you could get old consoles and games for cheap.
Why? Scalpers are shitbag who should be publicly executed, but I can get any game I want online to actually play. Having physical games is nice, but playing them is what actually matters and that's easier than ever now.
Emulators are what got me interested in buying old consoles and games, best catch I made online was a NES with 4 controllers, the zapper, a four score multitap and 10 random games for around 150€.
>The World is supposed to ONLY profit MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
What about my post made it sound like I want to profit from used games? Anyone who makes money from market manipulation, scalping, or price gouging that doesn't provide any value to anyone is subhuman trash. Likely either a Black person or a israelite.
When did that ever happen? Gamestop was fricking us over 20 years ago.
>It’s the people who clear entire shelves just to scalp them online when they get home that ruin the hobby here for everyone.
NOOOOO YOU CAN'T SELL THOSE GAMES, ONLY WE CAN
So why should i care? Emulation exists for this very reason
>Go to aliexpress and dhgate
>See dozens of sellers selling reproduction retro games with boxes for super cheap
>Realize 90% of everything online is fake chinese shit
Amazing
So could I just buy copied consoles and games and get identical experience?
You play retro games??
lol no, maybe a bit when I was a kid.
Just got curious
>Place products on store shelves with intent to sell
>People take the product in exchange for the asking price in currency
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT. THIS IS LITERALLY ALMOST THEFT.
>sell something
>get mad when people buy it at the prices you dictated
>shop A is selling something
>customer A buys 100% of the stock
>customer A relists it in shop B for 300% the original price
>customer B cannot buy it from the original shop
>customer B cannot afford it from the new shop
>shop A forced to match the price of shop B to prevent this happening again in the future
>customer B fricked now, and in the future
It's fairly simple anon
>shop a sells something at the price they dictated to someone who flew half way around the world
>that person flies back across the planet and sells it at a premium to his local customers
>shop a spends the money it made on new stock
>this is somehow bad
Ah yes, the noble scalper.
The point is that a small group of speculants is using borrowed (aka fake, printed) money to greatly influence a market of actual physical goods.
the shop owner in japan has bills to pay
they need to move merchandise
if a whale comes in and buys it all they don't have to worry about paying the rent on the building for the next 3 years
stop being entitled
if you want the games so much fly to japan yourself
your argument is basically "why should I pay much for gold?! it's just laying there in the dirt!"
Shop owner would still sell his goods to actual people. Instead, goods will end up in some auction house's storage while being bought and sold by different speculants and then go straight to landfill.
>new stock
just let me ring up nintendo for another 20 copies of Ai Senshi Nicol
they source their stock from local collectors who died
collectors are homosexuals
when you homosexuals die, all your gay babby merch gets picked up by scalper israelites
this is your fate b***h homie
so how will they deal with foreign collectors draining their country of local stock?
by reproducing instead of being homosexuals who hoard games instead of ripping the roms for everyone to enjoy
>I need to fly over there
you doint
Shop A isn't forced to set its price to anything. It can try to sell at any price it wants. Are you literally underage you fricking moron?
>shop A forced to match the price of shop B to prevent this happening again in the future
that's not how it works
Then explain OP, where that is literally what is happening.
Jap shops increasing prices to prevent their shit being bought and resold by scalpers.
>Jap shops increasing prices to prevent their shit being bought and resold by scalpers.
they're not doing it to prevent scalpers
>that's not how it works, except it's what's happening
whoa...
Maybe Customer B should make some more money. Problem solved.
Maybe customer B should spend half the price customer A is asking in bitcoin to thug gangbanger C to break into customer A's house, beat the shit out of him, and steal all of his shit. FREE MARKET! WHEEEE!
Better hope Shop B succeeds in selling his 300%+ stock! If not, he'll have to lower his listed price!
>sell something that's meant to be enjoyed for individual use
>someone buys everything to sell it for profit
>someone else rebuys the entire thing to sell it for profit
>they rebuy their stock endlessly between each other skyrocketing prices until no one can afford shit
>this is good according to your average Gankertard
hey, moron
I used to buy EVERY copy of eternal darkness, fatal frame 1-4, silent hill 1-4, haunting ground, and rule of rose from my local gamestops, then resell them for 20 dollars the same day on ebay
gamestop now sells them for 20
the only person who got screwed over were the lazy c**ts who didn't want to go to the store themselves
frick you broke Black person
It really is sad how Nintendo and Sony are losing out on so easy money
They just need to make a batch of consoles, probably about 50k to 100k, mark them at about $400 to $500, get the rights to old games so they can republish them and sell them for $50 a pop
Then just repeat every 5 to 8 years
Didn't they basically do that with the mini consoles, minus the individual game prices?
There's a market there and they refuse to acknowledge it.
By the time they realize it (if ever) chinks will have perfected making literally perfect 1:1 repros cartridges for every system with cardboard boxes and booklets and everything for dirt cheap and no one will care.
Smartest tendie
If people didn't buy scalped shit, scalpers wouldnt scalp. You get what you fricking deserve
I'm glad I don't care about the 360 library. That market is getting out of hand right now.
How is this a problem? I'm sure japanese stores are happy about it. Anyone who wants these games had 30 years to buy them. If you just want to play the games then you don't need the physical copies, they're all preserved on a million different servers by now.
>resellers pay $1000 to fly to Japan just to buy retro games for cheap
>returns to North America with their bounty and realizes all the games are in Japanese
>nobody buys then
Whoops! Fricking idiots, I've seen this time and time before especially with Pokemon, an extremely text based franchise.
>returns to North America with their bounty and realizes all the games are in Japanese
People buying these things are men in their 40s who live in bored marriages and toil away in shitty jobs all day. These games aren't for playing.
>scalpers and "collectors"
>playing games
lol
>search a random Pokemon GBA game on ebay
>$100+
Fricking hell, I literally threw my old GBA games away when I found them in a drawer like 6 years ago.
It was only a few games, and I'm almost certain they weren't worth the effort back then (probably only $5 each), but shit.
moron, nobody but other morons are buying them at that price. its a resellers market who buy up their own stock to make it looks like their scam is working
You're moronic. 6 years ago was already into the retro boom.
>limit 1 per custormer
Is it so hard?
Should being an american be illegal?
>Have you ever seen an american speaking foreign language?
I'm an American and I speak Japanese. How about you? And no, speaking broken English because the entire world is forced to learn it isn't an accomplishment.
Remember Matt Colvin, the scalper from Tennessee who bought up hand sanitizer during the pandemic to resell it on Amazon?
This is the phenotype for scalpers. A "christian family man" with a combover, khaki shorts, and a mid-2000s Nissan.
Know the scalper. Hate the scalper.
Technically, every business functions as scalping, buying low and selling high. Costco's whole business market is selling low to restaurant owners for them to resell it to you at at a restraint or gas station.
No. Every part of the normal supply chain makes the product closer to the final consumer. Scalpers buy out product that was already available and make it less available by increasing the price. Scalpers are harming the free market and should be shot.
Alright, point taken.
>Free market
>People should not be allowed to use their own damn money and own damn property they buy however they want
>"These people should be shot for buying things wrong"
>Free market
Scalping is trying to take advantage of niches with small supply by buying the whole supply and creating a monopoly on it. So yes, it's against free market.
>No one should have more more money than others
Ok, communist.
Never said anything like that. You're fully allowed to make more money than others by creating a valuable product or offering a valuable service. But if all you do is slowly but surely use the wealth to create more wealth by monopolizing a market while offering nothing in return, you are scum, plain and simple, and you deserve to be regulated away as much as possible.
Yes, people using their greater-than-normal capital as leverage in an endless feedback loop to force other people out of the market is in fact bad and a serious shortcoming of the system. But you're probably a landlord in addition to a scalper, so you wouldn't care about anything like that, you got yours after all, and frick everyone else.
The common Wannagetrichus americanus. Too morally bankrupt to create anything, too stupid to get into an actual high-paying field.
If its too expensive, its not worth it. Simple as that. That is the point of emulators. Frick physical if it is not viable.
I already got my Super Famicom and flashcart.
Cost under $200 and I get all the benefits of emulation (cheap) and authenticity.
Everything else is an autism issue (I also bought a copy of Mother 1 and 2).
>nooo you can't just… buy all this old plastic junk you have to leave it to rot on the shelves noo it's over japan has fallen billions can't buy
>rot on your store shelves
>rot on homosexuals shelf across the sea
They paid to let it do that.
Paid full asking price, even.
Went overseas and paid THEIR full asking price.
The issue for this in Japan is that scalpers are taking the money that would be made and distributed in Japan is now taken out of Japan.
Japs live in small quarters, if they live in their shoulder width apartment at all. Buying and reselling is a type of storage place for them to share games amongst themselves
I'm talking out of my ass by the way, but its strange how this makes sense when you think about it.
Investing is the backbone of capitalism, if you hate this you hate freedom.
Good.
Explain to me how having an original PS1 game is better than downloading an ISO with an emulator; other than that, the original takes up more space on your shelves?
It's not. It's all about "collecting" and reselling.
>Taking up space on your shelf
You fundamentally don't understand collecting. It's like big titty anime waifu figures, but for a different flavor of autismo.
as more and more tourists come to japan, these signs will become more common
>decide to look up a random game on Ebay to see how bad things have gotten
>Clock Tower 3
>Several hundred dollars for "graded" copies
This game isn't even popular.
clock tower 3 is awful
you're basipally buying a dog fart
Oh God I can only imagine how shit GunGrave OD runs on an emulator.
looks good on my end. i have a 4090 though
How is the FPS? It was pretty bad even on the original PS2.
that info is in the image, lower right hand side
30 fps local, 60 virtual
>people put things up for sale
>other people buy them
WHAT THE FRICK BROS??
>sell product
>people buy it
holy frick we need communism now
scalpers a shit, japan was right to make anti-scalping laws. they just need to expand it beyond the common ticket resellers
this shit is readily available why didnt hte hobbyists buy it first before some gaijin tourist emptied the shelves?
why are people paying enough to make this profitable in the first place?
this entire thing is so beyond moronic i can really only commend the people actually having the common sense to at least gain something out of it
theres frickload of games to play, emulation, other hobbies to get nerdy about and engage in and people are genuinely upset over this
this isnt even like a scalping a ticket where there is potentially very limited window to buy the products, these shits have been available for half a century by now, fricking buy them if you care so much lmao
up until a little white ago, retro games in japan were priced reasonably as games. now their prices are skyrocketing and pricing japs out of their own market as foreigners turn their retro game market into a foreign speculative asset investment market.
Yen itself is in a really bad spot, and has been for over a year.
I used to order shit from Japan (not just video games) last year constantly because even after accounting for shipping, it ended up being cheaper than ordering it nationwide.
They're now starting to block foreign IP addresses and in rarer cases, even stopped overseas shipping in general.
tell me something i dont know
then why didnt you fricking buy them by the boatload before if you are affected by this?
cus you werent and you arent
no one cares what you think is reasonable price for a used videogame, its a free market
you don't even know what a free market means, it's like ethan klein saying
>it's free speech
defending his reactor friends who blatantly violated fair use law.
and tell me, is the japanese store who is selling these games in the first place in the right cause its LE SOVLFVL JAPAN experience, they are literally in the same business, selling old used videogames
its a weird timing to now be passionate about something not being available for cheap when you had the chance for the pats 40 fricking years, which is probably longer than your life time
That mutt only posts constant ragebait. This is what mutts do, they don't belong anywhere so they only take pleasure in destroying or denigrating what others have.
>scalper destroys the market for everyone else
>waaah why is this random mean person trying to destroy what I have?!
>retro game store sells game for certain price
>someone buys it
>store makes money
>both parties are happy about the transaction
OH NOOO GAIJIN ARE RUINING JAPAN
>>both parties are happy about the transaction
Except for the people who don't want to have to pay 5X the original price to some homosexual scalper.
Good thing you can just go and buy things directly from people that aren't scalpers. If you know where to look the prices are still fairly low, of course if it's a limited item of which only like 100 copies exist it's normal for the price to be higher.
For instance there's a Yoko Kanno CD of which only 150 copies exist and I've seen one go for $300. I think that's normal. At the same time, nobody's going to pay 300 for a copy of Fifa 2012 on the Xbox 360 because there's so many copies of it.
>concert organizer tries to sell tickets to fans
>greedy scum uses his capital to inserts himself in the process, buying up everything and reselling for 20x the price, providing zero value or service to anyone
>concert is 75% empty
>fans get mad at concert organizer
>fans get mad at artist
>artist is disappointed
>no point in future concerts
>everyone is mad and loses out except for the scalper
And how does the scalper profit if he buys up 75% of the tickets and doesn't sell them?
The concert would have the same number of attendees.
Jacking up the price so only whales can afford them. Even if the majority goes unsold they can still profit. This is exactly how the retro market works. Thousands of ridiculously-priced copies go unsold for ages, but it's all paid for and worth it once some guy with money who really, really wants that one game decides to shell out.
>Hold concerts online, with infinite seats.
>Sell digital copies of games with NFTs that will prove you own a copy of the game forever, and are entitled to access to ONE copy of that game so long as it exists in some form, somewhere.
>store sells thing
>people get mad when it sells
lol...
They're charging a premium in central Tokyo, there's load of youtube channels causing a bubble. Travel further out and you'll still find cheap games
>last name first name
Oh shit it's John Oliver
Japan's culture regarding used games is more like a library; you buy a game, play it until you're satisfied, then sell it back. Things like smaller living spaces cause this mindset.
It's why used game prices are so much cheaper there. Used games enter the market at a much higher rate, as opposed to the west, where people are mostly selling their games only if they need the money.
What happens in a few more decades when we have augmented or virtual reality on par with holodeck technology?
Then you can just create a perfect simulacrum of a mint-condition Nintendo 64 cartridge, or a 1969 Shelby GT 500, or a circa 1995 Chuck'E'Cheese filled with virtual friends (and its your 10th birthday), or a beautiful cabin next to a flowing brook, surrounded by pristine mountains capped with snow.
What will people resell then?
>What will people resell then?
The power required for the holodeck to function. The labor needed to keep it functioning. The education necessary to build more of and/or repair them.
I sure hope holodeck food doesn't "disappear" after you've eaten it and leave the holodeck.
>have good thing
>youtubers catch up
>upload hundreds of videos about good thing
>more people catch up
>they ruin it for everyone
>repeat
God, why is this so common.
because the economy is shit, and everyone wants money so they can live.
The store had items for sale and someone bought them.
The Japanese people put up their items for sale and the foreigners bought them.
Maybe now I'll finally seed to Japan. I never do except visual novels.
No Japanese passport, no sale.
Simple as.
Not racis' I just don't like くそ害人共
What i'm more curious about is... why did it take so long?
I've heard of stuff like buyee for like 3 years now and it's been stable, while the scalpergay saga has been running for far longer, yet they only now start invading japan?
What the frick was their MO? I refuse to believe that the entire scalping circle never heard of the fabled japanese retro market, yet alone decided to sleep on it instead of taking advantage immediately once covid died.
Also RIP my dreams of getting a new cheap vita and a N3DS, FRICK.
The pandemic prevented tourists from going to Japan for about 3 years, and the type of israelites who are scalpers are cheapskates, and going to Japan was not cheap until recently because of the current imbalance in yen/dollar purchasing power.
>currency of country becomes cheaper
>Buying from country becomes x100 more expensive
For what it is worth, the cost of living in Japan is going up like crazy, too. Basic stuff like food is costs about 1.5 times what it did pre-COVID, and it is not going down.
>Run out of grifts to shitpost about
>Start grifting and ragebaiting about the used japanese game market
Very transparent. It is not as if any if you give a frick or know japanese. Surugaya has sales + free shipping every other week, CDJapan is begging people foriegners to buy their stock while yen value is low and even with all that you can still get boxed copy of SMB1 for less than 50 USD. That will never change because used game market in Japan is not stupid and your cherry picked images/niche examples do not reflect reality.
Literally a Chud going "it's over, Japan has fallen."
I laugh when white tourists get kidnapped, scammed, murdered, mugged, abducted, raped, extorted, pickpocketed, lost, die in accidents, die in terrorist attacks, die of exposure, beaten up, robbed, persecuted by racist police, "randomly" selected by immigration for interrogation, jailed without trial, deported, intimidated by the mob, and lose their luggage.
fricking amelican gaijin
>tfw I did this with a sealer copy of Mother 2 for 13000 yen last year
Feels okay I guess
The retro price boom was already 12 years ago. There used to be a guy named video game hunter that posted on Ganker, had a youtube channel in 2010/2011 where he was still able to buy games at garage sales or flea markets. I remember being shocked when Earthbound BOXED was 300 dollars in 2009. Then after the CRT generals started popping up on Ganker and Ganker in late 2011/2012 it was all down hill from there. Around the same period (2012-2015) people knew the only way to get old games cheaply was to go to Japan, a ticket was a small price to pay in comparisons to US prices. Our market here dried up a long time ago. There is virtually no old games left in circulation from 'natural' sources. Every now and then you have an old couple who clear out stuff from their house and they donate their kids stuff from 40 years ago or they sell it a garage sale but it's quickly in the hands of these collectors/scalpers.
I own one Nintendo Micro Famicom edition and one copy of ダウンタウン熱血物語 which I bought for myself and actually play, and that is the only "retro" game I own.
i dont care about what a nintengay has to say