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Thread Question: Do you have aliens (d-bees) in any of your Palladium games? Which ones?
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>Palladium Books and Paramount Consumer Products have joined forces to reissue the ever-popular role-playing game Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles & Other Strangeness.The beloved, out-of-print Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles role-playing game and its sourcebooks are sought-after collector items that have enthralled generations since its release in 1985 as one of the first licensed TMNT products. They are returning to print as two deluxe hardcover collections of the RPG and sourcebooks. Each is being completely remastered by industry veteran Sean Owen Roberson and presented in full color, and Kevin Eastman, co-creator of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, will also provide a new painted cover.
>Bonus material includes an array of new artwork, never before seen behind-the-scenes info and art, plus remembrances and tributes by renowned comic book and RPG creators including Eastman, Peter Laird, Freddie E. Williams II, Steven Cummings, Sophie Campbell, David Petersen and many more.
>https://palladiumbooks.com/about-palladium-2/weekly-updates/1342-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-other-strangeness-role-playing-game-is-back-2
>Book One contains the Role-Playing Game, Truckin’ Turtles, and Turtles Go Hollywood in one deluxe, full color hardcover. Homage cover by Freddie E. Williams and Michael Majestic (colors).
>Book Two contains Transdimensional TMNT, TMNT Adventures, and TMNT Guide to the Universe in a second deluxe, full color hardcover. Homage cover by Freddie E. Williams and Michael Majestic (colors).
Sadly, no After the Bomb books will be included in this remaster, even though the system is based on TMNT. But those books are still available separately. At least we get killer space triceratops.
They said if the project goes well they might get authorization to make more, maybe even release some PDFs
I'm not watching that 5 hour bullshit stream they did. Does anyone have the abridged version of what they confirmed and hinted at in it, instead of announcing that shit clearly on nay of their forums or social media accounts like a sane company?
They're going to do another editorial pass and put color art in. Apparently there are some things they want to fix in the rules but they ain't saying exactly.
Besides that Kevin saying how Eastmen got too excited and basically did the book by himself. Then they accused Heathendog of being a pet murdering psychopath. Generally it's just the hosts and Kevin shooting the shit.
>basically did the book by himself.
??? How? He's an artist. Did he start writing RPGs now?
To quote Kevin:
>"Eastman kept popping in saying, "Kevin, there should be this kind of thing for a growth system. I dont have the time but I'll do it." Then he comes back and says, "Kevin, we gotta have all these animal superpowers! Let me do the animal powers, I dont have the time but I'll do it." And he kept doing that probably made the whole book."
So Eastmen was very excited about the book and just kept coming up with ideas and putting in work for it despite his schedule. Kevin had a good relationship with Eastman before he got big so that's what made the book happen despite Viacom and Nickeledon being seemingly unapproachable.
Your slightly miss-remembering it. it wasn't Eastman that did the first draft but whoever did it did an awful job and they got Eric Wujcik to write it as he was super exited about the project. that misquote of yours was about Eric not Eastman.
forgot to add Eastman was super exited about the anniversary edition they're running the kickstarter for and was sending them a bunch of art (practically doing a full books worth), you got the two confused.
>They're going to do another editorial pass and put color art in. Apparently there are some things they want to fix in the rules but they ain't saying exactly.
The books badly need some serious overhauling and reformatting, but somehow I doubt they'll do much more than an errata pass or correcting some typos, maybe spacing out stat blocks a little nicer. Everything they've said so far makes it sound more like they want to release this as a shelf piece more than a system they expect anyone to play, hence all the emphasis put on art, interviews, and other bits of history surrounding it.
>shelfwarmer
That's exactly what it is and fits in well with Palladium newly-discovered strategy of selling expensive deluxe hardcover reprints of all their old books. Face it, Palladium fans are old, in their 40s, 50s and 60s, and they have cash for pretty little nostalgia coffee table books. That's PB's profit now, like model railroad collectors in the 80s and 90s.
Is the system that unplayable? I was kind of looking forward to the israelitestarter, I have played a fair bit of Rifts years ago and have recently got a collection of the books going again and was planning on picking these up but you guys have kind of shook my confidence in it
It's playable just fine, it's just suffering from some really bad formatting, a really boring character sheet, and some general Palladium-isms (missing rules, unclear rules, soo many edgecase mechanics, copy and pasting content from other books that don't totally fit, but work well enough)... and potentially, a lot of that could be fixed with a redraft, but I'm not convinced they're going to do that much to it.
Probably not. There are groups that love to play tmnt and are wholly separate from Paladium fans. Honestly it's great that a single print book with no new books or editions for forty years hits off with so many people.
Absolutely not, it's playable and fun. It works just like D&D but you can parry and dodge instead of just having AC to protect you. Also the character creation process is cool and unique.
The big question... will this be delivered or are people going to get fricked?
It's just some new art in a reprint and some figures so... probably? Kevin fricks up kickstarters but Sean seems to not frick them up.
>Kevin fricks up kickstarters
Has he fricked up a Kickstarter other than RT Tactics, which was partially on a third party and somewhat outside Palladium's usual field? Some have taken a long-ass time to deliver, including the still-pending Bestiary 2, but I don't recall another one failing.
I threw the frick in for RTT, and so did many of us here. We remain butthurt, even though I love Rifts.
It isn't even really that he fricked RRT up. It is that he lied about it for 5 years and would have likely continued to lie about it if he hadn't lost the license.
btw is Carmen Belaire still working on his Rifts board game or did he actually An Hero?
I dont think he's tried another kickstarter without Sean. Still, that's a 100% fail rate if we are going with bad logic.
I think the big difference here is that people havent given up money for these permanently delayed books unlike what can happen with a kickstarter.
>I dont think he's tried another kickstarter without Sean.
Although some of them weren't on the Kickstarter platform specifically, they've done crowdfunding campaigns for Lemuria, Northern Gun 1 and 2, and Bestiary 1 and 2. Only Bestiary Vol 2 remains overdue and unfinished, but I see no reason to declare it failed yet.
It will probably get delivered if only because the contract almost certainly includes actual consequences for failing to deliver.
They updated Splicers and IAL but it looks like it's just better scans and tweeked art to look better on the PDF. I havent found any change to the rules or fixes.
I was hoping they would have updated it to be like the store exclusive that has the metamorph OCC. Nope.
Where's the metamorph from?
Rifter #51. The MM OCC is actually a pretty chunky section because it has several forms and basically it's a new body. Same book as the Swarm Lord.
That's also the same rifter that has rules for upgrading hand held bio-weapons which in my experience is actually a bit game breaking.
Thanks, Splicer-anon. Is there any material being put out or planned for Splicers in the future, or is the line completely dead?
They promised something about splicers this year but didnt say what. Probably more Rifter stuff.
>Do you have aliens (d-bees) in any of your Palladium games? Which ones?
Splicers, leprechauns. He runs a pub in a hobbit style burrow house. He subsists in this magic barren planet by sapping the PPE from diamonds and emeralds and drinking heavily.
In his bar runs a gambling den where he has accrued debts of several people including Dreadguards. He employs two Biotics as guards and loan sharks.
What year is everyone playing RIFTS in? 109?
109 is the best year, unless you're talking about the Juicer Uprising. Then that year is the best.
What's the deal with Palladium Fantasy? It looks vaguely interesting, but apparently the dev is a loon?
No more a loon than most RPG designers. At least he's been pretty consistent over 40+ years and 120+ books.
I havent heard anything about him being a loon at least not in a way I would remember.
He essentially drank his own kool-aide. Now he's not really all that bad considering some folks out there today, but he tends to be a little preachy. That said Paladium Fantasy was a very different flavor of fantasy than D&D when it came out. The background for the world is very detailed and involved. It would be fun for you to play.
>Drank his own koolaid.
Is this about Wolfen supremacy?
Get your fantasy fix here big guy https://youtu.be/_kbOhpegbPI
I missed what OCCs they were
>Elongated torso corpse
Kek
>Bionics
y/n? ietw?
When I read that one it kind of read like a Sears catalogue for cyborgs. Worse, the best bits are basically picked and put in RUE. Before RUE I could see how it was a great book to include.
On the topic of cyborg OCCs, I keep thinking it's going to be the terminator but it works out to being Inspector Gadget. Instead of being a super tank you end up having tons of different devices and weapons instead of focusing on core aspects. Do you anons think that's how it's supposed to be for the OCC?
Opinions on Dice & Glory? It's a mix of Palladium with 3.5.
Not RIFTS
One nice things about this AI thing is that when it screws up animals they pretty much look like Rifts monsters
>D-bee whale just wants to krill, for chrissakes
What kinda campaign you been running bros? I'm in the middle of a vampire hunting campaign down in Mexico. Currently doing some jobs in Juarez to build some cash reserves before heading further south
Based. Not running one currently but thinking about it
What kinda campaign you thinking about? Vampire hunting one is my first true Rifts campaign, ran a string of one-shots earlier in the year though.
Running a Splicer campaign, robots are invading the big human resistance group.
Sounds awesome anon. Not looked into Splicers, having fun with it? Anything super cool happen? I've read and played some solo After the Bomb and Heroes Unlimited but aside from that and running Rifts I'm still decently unfamiliar with Palladium's offerings
In terms of numbers its Rifts cranked up to 11. 5 melees is considered "slow" and 2d8 is more common than 1d6 for damage.
The setting is pretty fun with logic and reason being a battered step child curled up in a corner sobbing with a black eye. The primary villain is an AI that partitions and sandboxes herself and gets off on committing crimes against humanity and the good guys are HR Geigar inspired superhero weebs who, if you read between the lines, are fighting eachother as much as the bad guy.
Besides two books it's mostly spread out over the Rifters. It would be nice if it was fleshed out like Rifts or Dead Reign with a few more books.
I want a Nightbane and a Vampiric Splicer to meet to see who is the most edgy.
I know there is a Splicer and Dead Reign PDF Bundle on Bundle of Holding.
Wish more people ran stuff in the Discord. Its kind of dead in that regard.
You mean mic games or play by post?
>You mean mic games
Mic Games, Play by Post is on the popular side
A lot of people online complain about the system but can never give actual reasons for why it sucks. Its always "Game sucks play Savage Rifts". How is the system actually?
Class based character creation with random rolls for attributes but selection of skils to build
2 main pools HP (health points) and SDC (Stun points) and other 3 that are only viable to some characters.
d20 combat with active defenses and d100 for skill tests
People usually talk about the book keeping when they meant it sucks so they propably didn't read it.
Actually plays fine. A lot of it follows the old rule of 10-90 (10% of the knowledge is what you need 90% of the time). People get intimidated because they dont know what is the essential info and what is non essential info.
>What your combat bonuses are: essential
>4 to hit in melee, 8 to hit at ranged, -4 to called shots: essential
>What your bonus is to keep balance from taking gymnastics: not essential
Also Savage Brainlets poopoo their parent systems because SWADE hinges on the thought that players cant mentally handle anything but their shallow system. I dont like SWADE for these reasons.
They don't even know themselves, it is just group think people repeat.
NPCs are real man
As a GM, how do I disable autododge?
Like, if a PC cant move his legs does autododge still apply? That he can still duck or does that not count as enough to dodge lasers? If I shoot missiles at an autododger should I declare they are shooting the ground so they'll be hit in the blast?
You're the GM you can do anything that is reasonable. Keep in mind that auto-dodge is just a dodge that doesn't use up an action, it's not an automatically successful dodge, and doesn't work in situations where dodging is impossible, like in situations like missile volleys of 4 or more.
>oesn't work in situations where dodging is impossible, like in situations like missile volleys of 4 or more.
That works. I was just nocking him down and wailing on him while he was on his back.
How are the Dino World Books?
They're some of the best ones. They dial back the space opera high-tech stuff you find in most other books and go back to wasteland basics, jungle survival, shamanism, strange tribal weapons/magic, weird plants, dinos (obviously) and swamp exploration (and economics). There are some fun "abandoned silo" tables too.
I only know about the bestiary and Dinosaur Swamp. Are there other books about dinosaurs?
New West and Atlantis have some too. And maybe South America? Can't remember.
Sount America 1 mostly has demon sea life.
Still waiting for kevboy to publish the whole collection onto fantasy grounds so I can buy it up like a fricking crack addict.
What's fantasy grounds? I've heard it referenced, is it like a vtt?
>vtt
Yes, but paid with far better integration then d20.
>Fantasy grounds
>Uses Unity
I wonder if that will be a problem for the site in the future.
Their was a non-unity version of the game, they disabled it, they deserve financial ruin for financial mistakes.
Huh, interesting
I wonder what made them do that. It seems like its mandatory now.
I realize this may be a long shot, but does anyone have any ideas or experience plugging in lewd content to Rifts?
Not that long. I've run a lewd game of Rifts using a homebrew ruleset for several years. What did you want to know?
I'm just generally curious on what aspects of the setting were used for what purposes.
I've run a lewd New West campaign with vanilla fricking about, but I feel like I should have done more with say magic, psionics, and symbiotes for example, and might end up doing so with a more distinctly lewd campaign rather than one that was a regular campaign with sex.
That sounds like it gets weird when you start incorporating Malvoren. Or races with size differences.
Though given Palladium Minotaurs are just huge buff black guys with bull heads, I do get a chuckle out of a half-minotaur/half-human who is just a shaq looking mother fricker.
That's kind of neat.
I did always feel that the Rifter with the article about skills buffing mental stats and PB should have been made core with UE, and it's a shame we don't see more examples of how PB should influence people.
At my table we generally ran it as like...
16+ most guys would at least stare at.
20+ is you'd consider cheating on your wife even if you normally wouldn't
24+ is someone you'd regret not at least trying for
28+ makes most guys have a hard time relying on their higher brain functions.
Most men would stare at a 12, let's be real. Knock every thing on that list by 4 points and I think it would be more accurate.
For breeding, which is not native to the game (since races can't reproduce), I fip a coin to determine if child gets the mother's of fathers main stat. Then I fip coin for racial abilities, which are usually numbered anyway, between the mother and father where applicable. This way you get true hybrids.
I also correlate looks with main stats: straight is arms, IQ is head, speed is legs. So players have an idea how the baby will look and grow into.
What, like this?
The only issue I have is that juicer might have shrunken dicks and thus be bad at this.
Nah that's just anti-drug propaganda. Arnold is still hanging pipe, you can see in the alternate angles of that shot from terminator.
I salute your dedication.
Has anyone here played After The Bomb? If so, how is it? Any fun stories?
I'd like to know as well. I read it years ago and wondered how the crafting system would work in real play.
I tried describing a host armor in Bing and got this. I think it should be slightly slimier.
That's better!
We're automating, should we make a new bread?