Looks great to me. Can't wait to play this on my Steam Deck. Not gonna buy a PS5 for this lol.
Team Ninja Gameplay > Fromsoft Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sucker Punch gameplay
Fromsoft cuck
You are obsessed. From Software is miles ahead of Team Ninja but that's not saying much since they are the best developement studio in the history of videogames. Team Ninja can still maek decent games. The writing is garbage, though, this one at least seems rooted in reality.
Timed exclusive, b***h. Are you gonna cry when I'm gonna play this in bed and at work with my Deck?
>since they are the best developement studio in the history of videogames
Holy frick buddy, they're just good at rehashing assets for 8 games in a row and making their fanbase gobble it up while shitting on other franchises for reusing assets
>since they are the best developement studio in the history of videogames
Holy frick buddy, they're just good at rehashing assets for 8 games in a row and making their fanbase gobble it up while shitting on other franchises for reusing assets
Great combat but dogshit graphics and animations. Who thought it was ok to show those horse scenes? It's either this or the other way around with tsushima. Why is it so hard to have it all?
Great combat but dogshit graphics and animations. Who thought it was ok to show those horse scenes? It's either this or the other way around with tsushima. Why is it so hard to have it all?
2. Per weapon. The stances only make you do more damage against specific enemy types according to whether they're Ten/Chi/Jin class, beyond that they just give you different looking basic moves recycling animations from all of their previous games.
so gross wo long combat? ehhhhhhh i might end up getting dd2 instead and buying rotr on sale if that ends up being true. i'll wait for the reviews i guess because it seems like they don't want to release a demo or beta.
There's a hell of a lot to try and glean just out of this one clip and that has me quite hyped. >grappling hook looks similar to Sekiro but improved i.e. based on distance but you don't need to look directly at them at all, meaning it'd be far more fluid in action >both Wo Long-style deflect and Nioh-style parry skills, the latter restores stamina >several combo followups from the string, looks like it follows the smoothness of Wo Long inputs, style icons suggesting it controls like Wo Long/Nioh >Ki Pulse replacement mechanic via the bar underneath your weapon, hitting attacks fills it up and you can cash it out for a Ki Pulse when you want >more ranged weapon attacks/skills, may be a pistol specific thing >stamina break looks more like Nioh, can do your own combo but also get access to a grapple that might have its own button >there's a camera, you can take pictures of people
Definitely a lot to it. I'm interested in that Ki Pulse and whether that bar has a timer once it's full (it was flashing) and you can lose that Ki Pulse chance. Also that pistol attack he used MASSIVELY filled the stamina bar during what looked like a recovery animation, compared to the speed it refilled before during normal combat.
There could be a timer but I feel like there won't be, because it wouldn't make much sense for it to be its own separate bar mechanic and then be held back by a timer. Also if you look closely, when he spends it it hasn't even gotten full yet so I think the flash is just so you know it is, like Nioh 2 Amrita gauge.
That really fast stamina recovery is something I probably have to watch the other videos to try and track down because the other times his stamina is slower he's in more specific animations it seems like. It starts going up after he stops shooting and the other refills work/look differently so that might actually just be the default stamina refill speed and shooting put him in neutral. Either way it's very interesting and I hope they don't hold back on the complexity and depth. Mainly due to principle because I don't have a PS5 hahahaha.
>all this attack magnetism
Why has the importance of spacing and positioning just disappeared from games now? There are few things more satisfying than smartly weaving attacks with forward travel into combos to stay on top of an enemy, or baiting out an attack and counterhitting with a big hit from just out of its range. Now every attack just snaps both you and the enemy right up in each other's faces, movement is basically automatic and all you have to pay attention to is attacking and parrying.
I was just playing RDR2 and thinking about how the samurai genre would be perfect for a slow, gritty, realistic game. This looks like fricking slop. Samurai movies were especially good for their violent and quick action, where every blade cut could be fatal and spray gallons of blood, but it still felt like katana scenes had weight to them. This shit is cringe and proves to me japs don't know how to make good action games
The animations are atrocious, especially the way they connect with one another, looks like step motion like it's missing key frames
Years behind GOW or sekiro on that front
Not surprised that a Sekiroshitter worries more about how much filler there is inbetween animations than how responsive the animations themselves are
This is why Frombabs will never be taken seriously when it comes to action game discussions
To a certain extent. The feeling of the controls is what really matters. Nioh was fine enough, the movement was more than decent. The feeling of cause and effect was as well.
>Same day as DD2 >PS5 exclusive (it's team ninja give it 6 months) >Team ninja game, complete edition with 3 DLCs on the way
let's be real nobody is playing this lol
I look forward to it being on a real platform (PC) in a year
I'm a Nioh gay and I am not interested.
Team Ninja has been on shit streak for too long to ignore anymore.
>Same day as DD2 >PS5 exclusive (it's team ninja give it 6 months) >Team ninja game, complete edition with 3 DLCs on the way
let's be real nobody is playing this lol
I fricking love SoP but it's by far the most unpolished of all the TN games since Nioh. Nioh 2 > Wo Long > Nioh 1 > SoP. I hope they continue with SoP cause it's a diamond in the rough but the actual product we got was lacking a lot.
The only place where SoP is significantly unpolished is in the optimization for PC and PS4. Both games are great, but SoP was unironically more polished as a game mechanically on release than Wo Long is now. But they absolutely need to stick with SoP, promote everyone that worked on it and consider a sequel or otherwise expand on it.
What I want to know is if they're gonna make this a part of the Ninja Gaiden/DOA universe. They already made Nioh part of it with the JinHayabusa and Ancient Nyotengu boss fight.
Does Wo Long have a direct connection? not counting the special "crossover". Wo Long clearly has a similar setup to Nioh but I don't think there was anything that directly connected them, haven't finished the DLCs yet though
They've already said there's Hayabusa styles that you can unlock ingame (or get early from preordering), the question is how they work that into the world.
Does Wo Long have a direct connection? not counting the special "crossover". Wo Long clearly has a similar setup to Nioh but I don't think there was anything that directly connected them, haven't finished the DLCs yet though
Outside of the Mezuki crossover boss which is handled in a really abrupt unconnected way, surprisingly there wasn't. There's a cutscene early on that talks a whole lot about a dragon bloodline that has a lot of NG vibes and the whole Elixir and demons thing is set up exactly like Amrita/Essence again with how it behaves, but they didn't have the explicit connection to really tie it in. They didn't even let you get Izuna Drop what the frick even Jack had that.
I didn't mind the implementation in Nioh 2. It Felt moronic in wo long because it still required the same input as regular parry which you're doing 99% of the time anyways. It's definitely become an exhausted trend.
This game exists because Team Ninja wants to copy Ghost of Tsushima and Sekiro, and just shows how much better Fromsoftware animations are, which makes me wonder wheter Team Ninja cover the screen in colored anime effects to hide sloppy animation worls
the coolness of this completely collapses because it’s rehearsed to shit, at least in team ninja games a lot of cool shit can be done completely in the moment
I'm so glad they fricking finally decided to actually showcase proper gameplay, and while I need to dissect it fully it looks pretty great already. The direct influences were quite obvious but the way they might be expanding on them looks very interesting, styles letting you just pick your own stances and customize your moveset even further would be sick while the grappling hook makes jumping a bit more usable and worthwhile than Wo Long, I need to look closer at how the deflecting worked though. Also gun with bayonet being a full on melee weapon with its own moveset is a really cool twist I wasn't expecting, maybe SoP can be thanked for that. All in all, Yasuda's finally rewarding and restoring my faith in him, though the finer details have yet to be shown of course.
Looks alright as a Way of the Samurai successor. Wish Team Ninja would get good at animations, the combat still looks real jank.
This will get buried by Dragon's Dogma 2 alongside being a PS5 exclusive.
Combat looks like boring shit honestly
I mean there's interesting bits of movement here a d there but it's mostly Sekiro witb bad animations and semi ahtomatic muskets
wo long is a great fun game. I see ao
much crying about parry but I fail to see wtf is the issue. to me this complain is the equivalent of crying about jumping in a mario game.
I loved Wo Long's gameplay but it didn't have as much meat on its bones as Nioh 2, which disappointed me. Endgame stuff was not as fun, not as worthy of repeat playthroughs. I got like 200+ hours out of Nioh 2, only 30-40 on Wo Long.
are you comparing base wo long with nioh and all its dlc? theres no way you got through all content in wo long with is dlcs and experienced a thousand mile journey with only 40 hours of gameplay.
either way, I dont agree with you. and i personally think comparing every single game team ninja/KT releases from now on is beyond moronic. Im glad not all their games are nioh.
When you attack, you set the tempo of the fight, and you have a lot of options when you attack, how you position yourself, and what moves you use, along with choosing what strings you want to use and when you can and should disingage.
When you parry, you wait for the enemy to attack and you press the parry button. That's it. Parrying sucks in most games because there's nothing to it beyond timed button presses, which makes the combat increasingly one-dimensional the more the game revolves around it.
you cannot just wait for the enemy to attack. comments like these honestly seem to me like you never played the game. and to claim that parry is easy and braindead is honestly silly. the magic and martial arts system in wo long are so much fun.
The core combat is made much more basic to facilitate the parrying, the devs wanted to add an ebb and flow to the combat but failed because neither parts are interesting enough. And the parrying is braindead. It's not always easy because you have to learn timings all over again with a new enemy, but there's nothing that changes beyond that.
The open world nature of this alone would definitely take up more resources.
It looks good, and as it's not mission based I'm interested how at one point we're in 1858, and then on a horseback scene later in the trailer we're in 1868.
Looks fun but Im already feeling the "it isnt as good as Nioh", and I dont think they can make a fun "open world", so Im not that excited about exploration and shit.
>stance system >but you have to be in the 1 stance that counters the enemy or you do no damage
Hated this shit in GoT, going to hate it here. What's the point.
It looks alright and should be good but I don't know, the realism still makes it kind of dry to me. There doesn't need to be full demon armies or anything but there really should be some supernatural things like ninpo and demonic enemies in some areas (maybe they're just more rare). I'm also not a fan of this camera angle, I don't know if I'm imagining it but I don't think it's centered and I hope it's adjustable. I see some various combat mechanics on screen but I can't really properly critique those unless they put out a demo for me to play myself. I was very critical of SoP at first but I ended up loving that game a ton so I want to be careful about going too hard on Ronin until I play it. Right now it's still not really doing anything to wow me though. I'd rather they make another Nioh, SoP, or Ninja Gaiden but I'll still play Ronin after DD2. They really should push it back though because it's going to hurt launch sales by keeping it in March. I'm sorry TN but Capcom has the upper hand here.
>western civilization is le bad
mc is pro western, he is fighting against shogunate which is "western civilization is le bad''
no he isn't. you can align yourself with several factions. you can behead comodore big black ship if you wished.
>you can behead comodore big black ship if you wished.
sold
It spread feminsim so yes and it's going for a dead end soon.
feminism is israeli (middle eastern), not western
Its just ghost of tsushima/ass creed/batman
you can literally see chad whitoids walking around the map in suits mogging japs
always has been.
Looks shit to be honest
Fromsoft cuck
lol. They're not even ripping off From shit this time, they're ripping off shit like Assassin's Creed and Ghost of Tsushima
Are Team Ninja even capable of making a game without ripping off another? Lol
they're ripping off elden ring's openworld fricking bastards hate them so much
>they're ripping off elden ring's openworld
Yeah, cities crowded with neutral npcs screams Elden Ring to me lmao. It's Tsushima/AssCreed ripoff.
Looks great to me. Can't wait to play this on my Steam Deck. Not gonna buy a PS5 for this lol.
You are obsessed. From Software is miles ahead of Team Ninja but that's not saying much since they are the best developement studio in the history of videogames. Team Ninja can still maek decent games. The writing is garbage, though, this one at least seems rooted in reality.
>Not gonna buy a PS5 for this lol.
Then you're not gonna play this lol.
Timed exclusive, b***h. Are you gonna cry when I'm gonna play this in bed and at work with my Deck?
Buzzwords.
>Elden Ring
>same rats as DS1
>same basilisks as DS1
>same knight as DS3 which are the same as DS1 which are the same as DeS
Why change good things? Do you have an actual rational argument?
>since they are the best developement studio in the history of videogames
Holy frick buddy, they're just good at rehashing assets for 8 games in a row and making their fanbase gobble it up while shitting on other franchises for reusing assets
>From Software is miles ahead of Team Ninja
fromturdware can't design a combat system that goes beyond dodge r1
It actually does look like it runs like shit
might be good, but as per usual with team ninja it looks ugly as sin. wolong was terrible so idk
Looked genuinely great.
Looks genuinely shit
I was interested, but the gameplay looks to floaty. I'll probably wait for a sale.
They didn't show any multiplayer despite the store page stating it has 3 player multiplayer. Will it just be pvp or raid arenas or something?
looked like a decent game
I might play it on pc
>female antagonist
can't take this seriously
Where are her big breasts Team Ninja?
Post-Itagaki Team Ninja was never the same.
To be fair its a historical setting so she could just be hiding them under her accurately made kimono. Yes I am coping hard
Did you miss Maria in Nioh?
>Bitchy female antagonist that will turn out to be the main romantic interest of the protag in late game
Kino
this game has 3 factions, there's no single antagonist. she's probably someone you can fight for in one of the factions
They hinted that you can actually romance girls, she's likely going to get correction.
>Poor man's Tsushima + Sekiro
Dropped
Team Ninja Gameplay > Fromsoft Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sucker Punch gameplay
>SoP
>Wo Long
>Ronin
Team Ninja gameplay is shit too unless is Nioh
SoP has good gameplay
Wo Long has decent gameplay bogged down by not incentivizing jump
>SoP
Jack is the only good thing about that game
>Wo Long
Dumb down version of Nioh and Sekiro
>better gameplay but graphics LE BAD therefore game LE BAD
Ganker doesn't play video games, they only care about movies
Surprised tsushima hasn't been put out on pc by now
Sony only ports to PC when a sequel is announced
Movement looks fun as frick. They somehow decided to rip off Just Cause. Which is a good thing.
Tsushi sequel is already announced though.
no yokai´s no buy
How did they somehow manage to make a combat system more dumbed down than Wo Long?
>Team Ninja is going out of their way not to make an NG4
Just be happy that this game will probably have Ryu's great great great grandfather in it.
Great combat but dogshit graphics and animations. It's either this or the other way around with tsushima. Why is it so hard to have it all?
>Fromsoft shill got paid to post it twice
Tsushima has better combat than Nioh. This game was literally commissioned as a holdover until Tsushima 2 drops.
Great combat but dogshit graphics and animations. Who thought it was ok to show those horse scenes? It's either this or the other way around with tsushima. Why is it so hard to have it all?
the footage we just saw looked massively downgraded from the first reveal. graphics are way worse.
If I can use iaijutsu I'm in.
So it's bootleg open world Sekiro?
You are siding with /OurGuy/ right?
>bulbous fish eyes
I love how even 150 years ago mutts still looked ugly
looks like a ps3 game
thoughts?
Putrid Dogshit
They should have made Nioh 3 instead
looks like nioh and wo long
I already played those games
i need to know if it's lame wo long combat or based nioh combat. i want 10 damn abilities per weapon.
It's Wo Long combat with Ghost of Tsushima stances
if they give me 3 or 4 moves per stance then i can tolerate that.
2. Per weapon. The stances only make you do more damage against specific enemy types according to whether they're Ten/Chi/Jin class, beyond that they just give you different looking basic moves recycling animations from all of their previous games.
so gross wo long combat? ehhhhhhh i might end up getting dd2 instead and buying rotr on sale if that ends up being true. i'll wait for the reviews i guess because it seems like they don't want to release a demo or beta.
why he use a Chinese sword
If the character connects with the enemy and auto locks onto it and positions the camera sideways the combat is bound to be shit. Its literally bamham
>wo long combat
. . . god no.
No thanks.
UI is shit
There's a hell of a lot to try and glean just out of this one clip and that has me quite hyped.
>grappling hook looks similar to Sekiro but improved i.e. based on distance but you don't need to look directly at them at all, meaning it'd be far more fluid in action
>both Wo Long-style deflect and Nioh-style parry skills, the latter restores stamina
>several combo followups from the string, looks like it follows the smoothness of Wo Long inputs, style icons suggesting it controls like Wo Long/Nioh
>Ki Pulse replacement mechanic via the bar underneath your weapon, hitting attacks fills it up and you can cash it out for a Ki Pulse when you want
>more ranged weapon attacks/skills, may be a pistol specific thing
>stamina break looks more like Nioh, can do your own combo but also get access to a grapple that might have its own button
>there's a camera, you can take pictures of people
Definitely a lot to it. I'm interested in that Ki Pulse and whether that bar has a timer once it's full (it was flashing) and you can lose that Ki Pulse chance. Also that pistol attack he used MASSIVELY filled the stamina bar during what looked like a recovery animation, compared to the speed it refilled before during normal combat.
There could be a timer but I feel like there won't be, because it wouldn't make much sense for it to be its own separate bar mechanic and then be held back by a timer. Also if you look closely, when he spends it it hasn't even gotten full yet so I think the flash is just so you know it is, like Nioh 2 Amrita gauge.
That really fast stamina recovery is something I probably have to watch the other videos to try and track down because the other times his stamina is slower he's in more specific animations it seems like. It starts going up after he stops shooting and the other refills work/look differently so that might actually just be the default stamina refill speed and shooting put him in neutral. Either way it's very interesting and I hope they don't hold back on the complexity and depth. Mainly due to principle because I don't have a PS5 hahahaha.
>0:03
The player is spamming the R1+triangle skill lol
Also the ally on the bottom left is getting destroyed in the background.
>2 skills
i hope you can get upwards of 4 later on
Guessing skills are tied to styles with this chinese one focusing on kicks.
>all this attack magnetism
Why has the importance of spacing and positioning just disappeared from games now? There are few things more satisfying than smartly weaving attacks with forward travel into combos to stay on top of an enemy, or baiting out an attack and counterhitting with a big hit from just out of its range. Now every attack just snaps both you and the enemy right up in each other's faces, movement is basically automatic and all you have to pay attention to is attacking and parrying.
Isn't there 2 protagonists in this game? Strange the trailer didn't really touch in that.
You can switch characters in missions. I suppose that got garbled into multiple protags.
I was just playing RDR2 and thinking about how the samurai genre would be perfect for a slow, gritty, realistic game. This looks like fricking slop. Samurai movies were especially good for their violent and quick action, where every blade cut could be fatal and spray gallons of blood, but it still felt like katana scenes had weight to them. This shit is cringe and proves to me japs don't know how to make good action games
Thats why Ghost of Tsushima is the superior Samurai game
This shit is a thousand times better than RDR. Now that is real slop for npc cattle.
The animations are atrocious, especially the way they connect with one another, looks like step motion like it's missing key frames
Years behind GOW or sekiro on that front
Not surprised that a Sekiroshitter worries more about how much filler there is inbetween animations than how responsive the animations themselves are
This is why Frombabs will never be taken seriously when it comes to action game discussions
The animations look way worse than fricking Nioh 2 you absolute shiteater.
Why are you defending an obvious and blatant step back?
Dark Souls::Nioh
Ghost of Tsushima::Rise of the Ronin
Please just make a new Ninja Gaiden already
Looks like another 7/10, like wo-long.
I'll probably get it. But I'm not setting my expecations high.
it really looks like shit, which sucks because I was looking forward to it
luv nioh
luv stranger of paradise
luv wo long
cant wait for rise of ronin
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO! BAKUMATSU LET'S GOOOOO! FIGHTING/ALLYING WITH HITOKIRI BATTOUSAI! NOW GIVE ME AN ISSEN SYSTEM YOU BASTARDS!
>it looks like shit
Graphics prostitutes need to be euthanized.
the animations look like shit too and those ARE important in an action game
To a certain extent. The feeling of the controls is what really matters. Nioh was fine enough, the movement was more than decent. The feeling of cause and effect was as well.
Nioh had good animations. This just looks stiff and jank.
Whatever, looks the same to me.
yeah the animations need urgent polish
Nioh's animations were already stiff and jank compared to Ninja Gaiden
and this is a tier below Nioh. Even leaving aside the combat animations, that horse is downright embarrassing.
Thank god other people noticed it. The horses were awful. Absolutely no excuse.
JUST MAKE NIOH 3 ALREADY
WTF TEAM NINJA
>we paid team ninja to make samurai sekiro
You can tell who doesn't have a PS5
There is literally nothing about this that deserves to be on the PS5 over anything else
Yup, seething
Also available on PC
yes, I do avoid spending money on worthless trash
>Same day as DD2
>PS5 exclusive (it's team ninja give it 6 months)
>Team ninja game, complete edition with 3 DLCs on the way
let's be real nobody is playing this lol
I look forward to it being on a real platform (PC) in a year
I'm a Nioh gay and I am not interested.
Team Ninja has been on shit streak for too long to ignore anymore.
>Team Ninja has been on shit streak for too long
you could even say they have been on shit streak for wo long
Could be. Still no confirmation that they got rid of the loot system
Dragons dogma 2 comes on all platforms day one
Ronin comes on same day as Dragons dogma 2 but only PS5. Yeah Tecmo fricked up bad
Team Ninja haven't made a good game since like 2007
jesus that looks dogshit
rather wait for another Steam sale and fricking repurchase Nioh 1 and 2
does it have customization?
i hope they can actually pull off sekiro 2 this time wo long missed it completely
For me it's "Final Fantasy Origin: Stranger of Paradise" the best Team Ninja game.
Jack and the chaos memes are the only good thing about that game
It's like Nioh but without shitamina system. Which automatically makes it better than all the other Team Ninja or Fromsoft games.
>KOWABUNGA DUDE! HE SAID CHAOS
lol no.
>best team ninja game
probably because it's the only TN game you ever played, kek.
I fricking love SoP but it's by far the most unpolished of all the TN games since Nioh. Nioh 2 > Wo Long > Nioh 1 > SoP. I hope they continue with SoP cause it's a diamond in the rough but the actual product we got was lacking a lot.
The only place where SoP is significantly unpolished is in the optimization for PC and PS4. Both games are great, but SoP was unironically more polished as a game mechanically on release than Wo Long is now. But they absolutely need to stick with SoP, promote everyone that worked on it and consider a sequel or otherwise expand on it.
It also looks like shit both technically and from an aesthetic perspective.
Hard to tell if it'll be fun to play, but it sure looks terrible. Even for team ninja standards
What I want to know is if they're gonna make this a part of the Ninja Gaiden/DOA universe. They already made Nioh part of it with the JinHayabusa and Ancient Nyotengu boss fight.
Does Wo Long have a direct connection? not counting the special "crossover". Wo Long clearly has a similar setup to Nioh but I don't think there was anything that directly connected them, haven't finished the DLCs yet though
If there was, I couldn't find one. But it is set in China, so that makes sense.
Mezuki boss fight is in wo-long. complete with spirit realm and everything
Ah, right. Makes sense I didn't know about it, it's from an update.
that's what I meant by "crossover"
They've already said there's Hayabusa styles that you can unlock ingame (or get early from preordering), the question is how they work that into the world.
Outside of the Mezuki crossover boss which is handled in a really abrupt unconnected way, surprisingly there wasn't. There's a cutscene early on that talks a whole lot about a dragon bloodline that has a lot of NG vibes and the whole Elixir and demons thing is set up exactly like Amrita/Essence again with how it behaves, but they didn't have the explicit connection to really tie it in.
They didn't even let you get Izuna Drop what the frick even Jack had that.
This is basically Nioh 3 but without demons/magic. Stances + ki pulse system and typical item/weapon switching seen in all of their games.
That being said, it looks super jank, what the frick happened? Did they forget how to animate?
More like Nioh PS3
STOP DOING THIS SHIT
IM TIRED OF THIS RED ATTACK PARRY BULLSHIT
I hate this so much
I didn't mind the implementation in Nioh 2. It Felt moronic in wo long because it still required the same input as regular parry which you're doing 99% of the time anyways. It's definitely become an exhausted trend.
This game exists because Team Ninja wants to copy Ghost of Tsushima and Sekiro, and just shows how much better Fromsoftware animations are, which makes me wonder wheter Team Ninja cover the screen in colored anime effects to hide sloppy animation worls
the coolness of this completely collapses because it’s rehearsed to shit, at least in team ninja games a lot of cool shit can be done completely in the moment
Team Ninja has been doing red attacks you have to parry since Ninja Gaiden 3
N Obreasts NOT SEKIERO BEST BEST BEST FRICK U NIJA FOOOOOOOOOOL
TN had some secret sauce for Nioh 1 & 2 that they ran out of
SoP and Wo Long are good.
>Wo Long
maybe
>S(L)OP
Hell no
looks like a mix of way of samurai and sekiro
I like WoS and Nioh combat more but it looks good
Not sure if it is buy a PS5 good
The game looked like Way of the Samurai for a good five seconds before it turned into ublislop.
As long as there is no loot shit like there was in Nioh. Nioh was butchered by that. When will devs learn loot ruins games.
I'm so glad they fricking finally decided to actually showcase proper gameplay, and while I need to dissect it fully it looks pretty great already. The direct influences were quite obvious but the way they might be expanding on them looks very interesting, styles letting you just pick your own stances and customize your moveset even further would be sick while the grappling hook makes jumping a bit more usable and worthwhile than Wo Long, I need to look closer at how the deflecting worked though. Also gun with bayonet being a full on melee weapon with its own moveset is a really cool twist I wasn't expecting, maybe SoP can be thanked for that. All in all, Yasuda's finally rewarding and restoring my faith in him, though the finer details have yet to be shown of course.
>gun as a primary
That's cool and all, but they better finally give us the fricking dual pistols Nioh already had.
>the fricking dual pistols Nioh already had.
Technically had.
Looks alright as a Way of the Samurai successor. Wish Team Ninja would get good at animations, the combat still looks real jank.
This will get buried by Dragon's Dogma 2 alongside being a PS5 exclusive.
Looks like shit, not just combat wise but also visually
Combat looks like boring shit honestly
I mean there's interesting bits of movement here a d there but it's mostly Sekiro witb bad animations and semi ahtomatic muskets
>same game as the last 7 but this time... Assassin's creed! And discount Tsushima!
lmao
>Sekiro 2 but with a boring setting
Yeah sure I can dig it
wo long is a great fun game. I see ao
much crying about parry but I fail to see wtf is the issue. to me this complain is the equivalent of crying about jumping in a mario game.
I loved Wo Long's gameplay but it didn't have as much meat on its bones as Nioh 2, which disappointed me. Endgame stuff was not as fun, not as worthy of repeat playthroughs. I got like 200+ hours out of Nioh 2, only 30-40 on Wo Long.
are you comparing base wo long with nioh and all its dlc? theres no way you got through all content in wo long with is dlcs and experienced a thousand mile journey with only 40 hours of gameplay.
either way, I dont agree with you. and i personally think comparing every single game team ninja/KT releases from now on is beyond moronic. Im glad not all their games are nioh.
I don't think it has to be Nioh, it's just a shame they'll never make another game as good as Nioh.
I think Wo Long is better than Nioh 1
I thought it was just as good in a different way.
fun game with beautiful environments and amazing ost.
When parrying is all you do in a game it gets very boring
When you attack, you set the tempo of the fight, and you have a lot of options when you attack, how you position yourself, and what moves you use, along with choosing what strings you want to use and when you can and should disingage.
When you parry, you wait for the enemy to attack and you press the parry button. That's it. Parrying sucks in most games because there's nothing to it beyond timed button presses, which makes the combat increasingly one-dimensional the more the game revolves around it.
you cannot just wait for the enemy to attack. comments like these honestly seem to me like you never played the game. and to claim that parry is easy and braindead is honestly silly. the magic and martial arts system in wo long are so much fun.
The core combat is made much more basic to facilitate the parrying, the devs wanted to add an ebb and flow to the combat but failed because neither parts are interesting enough. And the parrying is braindead. It's not always easy because you have to learn timings all over again with a new enemy, but there's nothing that changes beyond that.
Looks really fricking good, i hope they were half-assing Wo Long because this was their main project.
The open world nature of this alone would definitely take up more resources.
It looks good, and as it's not mission based I'm interested how at one point we're in 1858, and then on a horseback scene later in the trailer we're in 1868.
LOOKS LIKE PS3 GAME XD
Looks fun but Im already feeling the "it isnt as good as Nioh", and I dont think they can make a fun "open world", so Im not that excited about exploration and shit.
>stance system
>but you have to be in the 1 stance that counters the enemy or you do no damage
Hated this shit in GoT, going to hate it here. What's the point.
Rock-paper-scissors gameplay is what appeals to lowest common denominator.
>no nioh 3 = no sale
It looks alright and should be good but I don't know, the realism still makes it kind of dry to me. There doesn't need to be full demon armies or anything but there really should be some supernatural things like ninpo and demonic enemies in some areas (maybe they're just more rare). I'm also not a fan of this camera angle, I don't know if I'm imagining it but I don't think it's centered and I hope it's adjustable. I see some various combat mechanics on screen but I can't really properly critique those unless they put out a demo for me to play myself. I was very critical of SoP at first but I ended up loving that game a ton so I want to be careful about going too hard on Ronin until I play it. Right now it's still not really doing anything to wow me though. I'd rather they make another Nioh, SoP, or Ninja Gaiden but I'll still play Ronin after DD2. They really should push it back though because it's going to hurt launch sales by keeping it in March. I'm sorry TN but Capcom has the upper hand here.
i think people are really overestimating how well dragons dogma 2 is going to do, ronins sales will be fine.
This looked f*cking awesome, best game of the show for sure, not like that Gay Stranding In your Butt crap
Looks boring and spammy, in the end there were no A and B teams, Team Ninja is just a B-tier developer that got lucky with Nioh for some reason.
C-Tier Developer*
Team Ninja struck a magic formula with Nioh 1&2 that transmuted into vapid poison in SoP and Wo Long and RotR looks to be hardly better.