It's almost as if Ghold exists further enables the strat. Also Ribombee was always good. Has a great utility pool, strong speed tier, and Fairy for Moonblast Spam. Problem is, shit like Shuckle/Smeargle existed so competition for web users was expended enough to where it wasn't used as much. Smeargle is coming back in DLC2 so let's see if she still stays in OU.
Why Alomomola?
Flip Turn/Scald. It now can function as a strong physical wall wish pivot. Flip Turn seals the deal because slow pivots for a wisher like Mola is huge.
> damn! Kingambit is still in the first place > poor Lando-T almost fell down to UU
Difference is Lando is garbage shit and the only reason it's being held onto OU is people having way too much sympathy for it. Literally besides Scarf Lando, tf are you doing with it anyways? Intimidate is the only saving grace for this thing, and it's not as strong as it once had but can't do anymore. >Theres better hazard setters in the tier >Theres better offensive threats in the tier >Great Tusk has the utility Lando wishes it kept. >Special Lando is a shit meme and can't work.
So yes, unless next gen gives him back Defog/Knock Off/Toxic or Great Tusk/Gliscor disappear from the next dex, Lando is staying as a UU threat at worse.
>Corviknight solid OU throughout drastic meta changes >We just dropped to RU, with NU coming next month.
Tinkasisters… I think it’s over. I’m gonna join the 75%
idk I'm just positing the first step of a supposed downfall. You would need another Flying/Steel type and I think Skarm is provably not the one to do it, so Celesteela is the other form of competition. I guess I should have said "Celesteela would need a buff"
Webs are fricking cancer.
That's how you know OU is super fricked. Because Webs are just as viable as they are in Ubers where they've thrived the most for reasons that needn't bee stated.
Kind of hard to spin of defog, even when defog was actually available, considering the nukes thrown around left and right.
That's why webs are good there. Ubers is hit hard and hit fast. Webs are amazing since they make your opponent NOT be able to hit fast.
As someone who has experienced a dying metagame unfolding (BDSP lower tiers), this ratio of drops to rises could mean the playerbase has dwindled and the tiers lost who all knew what they were doing.
Not surprising. Gen 9 really fricking sucks.
I'm honestly surprised VGCcucks are still going. Makes me wonder how many would even bother to play if VGC was not official but since it is they've got not choice but to suck it up and deal with it.
It's month 2 of 200 Pokemon being added to the game.
Of which 99.9% were fricking worthless and useless. Not even in VGC have they made a splash.
VGC hits you with the sunken cost fallacy so smogon players get shit on constantly by them (They want to feel like all the time they wasted was not for naught)
I give those posts the benefit of the doubt, they're likely being contrarians to farm engagement. But it's possible that some younger users might have genuinely never played something by their own rules before. They only know online matchmaking.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I tend to assume the worse of people here. I think that so long as you're not overtly "woke" by their standards (Which means your series has hot chicks in scantily clad clothing), that means they will defend your trash to the death. However if you're overtly "woke", even if the shit you make is good that means that you're game's threads are going to get shit on constantly.
Nintendo is just very good at managing culture war stuff, them being japanese helps, and it abbawdely is a culture war thing, Ganker is in particular heavily invested in the culture war, the only thing tha I would say they are beat out by is conservative marvel movie reviewers (like the critical drinker, nerdrotic) and breadtube.
VGC is fun, Smogon isn't. Smogongays are annoying because they constantly whine the game isn't built for their preferred playstyle, and fan run metas tend to be cancer because when you can just spam bans players will prefer to call for that rather than adapt to a true metagame.
Like to this day Smogon doubles has tatsugiri banned because of the suicide Flamigo strat everyone learned to play around in week 2 before paradox were even available.
>Smogongays are annoying because they constantly whine the game isn't built for their preferred playstyle
When?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Literally nonstop last gen when the timer was 20 minutes only and that's just one example.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>game introduces something fricking moron >everyone rightfully complains
VGCucks are so whipped they go schizo when anyone criticizes their beloved GF
What else is new...
6 months ago
Anonymous
And that got fixed.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>doesn't play the game
6 months ago
Anonymous
They do it all the fricking time. You’re either a complete newbie or pretending to be ignorant as a coping mechanism.
>WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE SUPREME OVERLORD BROKEN WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6? >WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE LAST RESPECTS BROKEN WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6? >WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE HAZARDS MORE EASY TO SET WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6? >WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE TYRANITAR BAD EVEN THOUGH SOMEONE LITERALLY WON A REGIONAL WITH IT LAST WEEK?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>literally no format
Lol? 6v6 is literally a format, moron
Do you really think you can't play 6v6 link battles?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>6v6 is literally a format
No it isn’t.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Then why can you play it?
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because you’re playing the braindead casual mode that doesn’t have any actual ruleset.
6 months ago
Anonymous
So you must go to local VGC tournaments, right?
6 months ago
Anonymous
No. I just sit down and play the game instead of staring at tier rankings like fanfictards. Isn’t it amazing?
6 months ago
Anonymous
So you don't compete? Interesting.
6 months ago
Anonymous
That’s not what I said. Are you alright, fanfictard? Are you well?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>That’s not what I said.
Yes it is. I asked if you went to tournaments, and you said no.
Why do you care about what is casual or not if you don't even compete? Get TPC's wiener out of your mouth.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Competing and not going to tournaments aren’t mutually exclusive. Are you alright, fanfictard? Are you well?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>No. I just sit down and play the game
No you don't
6 months ago
Anonymous
Because you’re playing the braindead casual mode that doesn’t have any actual ruleset.
>beloved pokemon like garchomp and tyranitar fell out of OU
The entire cuckmunity had it coming. In fact, I adore this considering Game Freak made my favorites weak for the sake of it with no reason at all.
IT'S NEVER LANDOVER
>37
OH, NONONONONONO
Wasn't Samurott top 10 last month, what happened?
Gliscor is better for setting Spikes
Oh right. Man, hazards really are crazy this gen. Fricking Ribombee is OU.
It's almost as if Ghold exists further enables the strat. Also Ribombee was always good. Has a great utility pool, strong speed tier, and Fairy for Moonblast Spam. Problem is, shit like Shuckle/Smeargle existed so competition for web users was expended enough to where it wasn't used as much. Smeargle is coming back in DLC2 so let's see if she still stays in OU.
Flip Turn/Scald. It now can function as a strong physical wall wish pivot. Flip Turn seals the deal because slow pivots for a wisher like Mola is huge.
Difference is Lando is garbage shit and the only reason it's being held onto OU is people having way too much sympathy for it. Literally besides Scarf Lando, tf are you doing with it anyways? Intimidate is the only saving grace for this thing, and it's not as strong as it once had but can't do anymore.
>Theres better hazard setters in the tier
>Theres better offensive threats in the tier
>Great Tusk has the utility Lando wishes it kept.
>Special Lando is a shit meme and can't work.
So yes, unless next gen gives him back Defog/Knock Off/Toxic or Great Tusk/Gliscor disappear from the next dex, Lando is staying as a UU threat at worse.
OUtards has finally wisened up to Samushit being a product of new toy syndrome.
> damn! Kingambit is still in the first place
> poor Lando-T almost fell down to UU
How does she do it?
total meta domination ever since she was introduced. Even with Black persongambit sitting at #1
Probably because it has 142 base speed
Pursuit got Dexit'd so Tyranitar can't just come in for free and body it.
When did they ban Roaring Moon?
Last Saturday or Sunday
The weak should fear the strong.
Empoleonbros, it was good while it lasted...
You know you can still use Empoleon in OU, right? I still use it and see success.
No. Once dropped you're only allowed to use the holy 4.52% above cutoff.
oh nonononono troonytarsisters i thought knock off was going to save us????????
>Tyranitar will be stuck in RUBL hell soon
it's over
When is this piece of shit gonna drop?
>Still Top 25
75
Cope homosexual
When they make an even better flying/steel type, just like how Skarmory got cucked by it
Never, it`s just THAT good
>Corviknight solid OU throughout drastic meta changes
>We just dropped to RU, with NU coming next month.
Tinkasisters… I think it’s over. I’m gonna join the 75%
Only if Celesteela comes back. Flying/Steel is just too good of a type combo to not have one in OU.
Wasn’t Corviknight better in gen 8 OU than Celesteela? What would make anyone use it over Corviknight in gen 9 if it were to return?
idk I'm just positing the first step of a supposed downfall. You would need another Flying/Steel type and I think Skarm is provably not the one to do it, so Celesteela is the other form of competition. I guess I should have said "Celesteela would need a buff"
>TyranitaRU
Why Alomomola?
Stall, unironically.
Regenerator wish slow flip turn.
This garbage pokemon is fricking aids
haven't followed comp since gen 7
is UU just OU now
Yes, this Gen has had ridiculous power creep, UU looks like OU from a few months back, and OU has like 16-ish bans with more on the way
>is UU just OU now
It's literally been that way since Gen 5.
>Grimm NU to UU
I have not ever played gen 9 UU, but something rising NU to UU means something outrageously busted is on that tier
Grimm is useful in basically any tier, he's an amazing prankster abuser
>Heatran's back to OU
His streak got broken for no reason at all.
Frick this gay earth.
Blame the homosexual bear
aaiiieeeeeee it's over amogusbros
T-Tar is now in the RU tier for the second time?
lower tier usage
>All those box legendaries top 10 in Ubers and then there’s fricking Ribombee
Kek
Webs are fricking cancer.
That's how you know OU is super fricked. Because Webs are just as viable as they are in Ubers where they've thrived the most for reasons that needn't bee stated.
Is there no good hazard removal in Ubers?
To my knowledge the only ok option is Giratina-Origin, but it runs into some issues
Kind of hard to spin of defog, even when defog was actually available, considering the nukes thrown around left and right.
That's why webs are good there. Ubers is hit hard and hit fast. Webs are amazing since they make your opponent NOT be able to hit fast.
why is the Scarlet and Violet Box Legendary usage so so so high??
C'mon son.
You seriously have to ask after taking a glance at their abilities and movepools?
Koraidon with Scale Shot is busted and Miraidon has been OP as shit since day one due to terrain
Look at their stats, abilities, and movepools.
They're busted as frick, especially Miraidon. I'm honestly shocked that thing isn't AG.
I think Ubers is just waiting to see how Terapagos will frick the lizards over before they throw out banhammers.
What happened to Dirge?
>chomp at Nr. 9 in UU
I thought he was Banned to BL
It was. Garganacl too. It's just still ended up being 9th in usage overall.
ah ok
remember when avalugg was the biggest laughing stock of the hisui mons
>Magcargo
>ZU
It's magcargover :c
>Gogoat to ZU
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
NOT LIKE THIS GEETABROS
THEY WILL KEEP LAUGHING AT OUR TEAM
>Lance, Alder, and Pageeta are the only champions who have ace Pokemon in OU or higher
Holy fuark
Her ace is Gogoat though
>Donphan was UU
Fricking why.
Why do people fricking refuse to let this shitmon finally drop to hell.
Why are shitters so obsessed with it.
It's good at removing hazards, and isn't totally useless outside of that.
Iron treads, a Pokemon that is utterly amazing both in UU and OU should be reason enough to let Donphan drop where it belongs.
As someone who has experienced a dying metagame unfolding (BDSP lower tiers), this ratio of drops to rises could mean the playerbase has dwindled and the tiers lost who all knew what they were doing.
It's month 2 of 200 Pokemon being added to the game.
Not surprising. Gen 9 really fricking sucks.
I'm honestly surprised VGCcucks are still going. Makes me wonder how many would even bother to play if VGC was not official but since it is they've got not choice but to suck it up and deal with it.
Of which 99.9% were fricking worthless and useless. Not even in VGC have they made a splash.
>Of which 99.9% were fricking worthless and useless.
And that's why there's so many drops. Use your head, anon.
>Gen 9 really fricking sucks.
are any of the lower tiers fun?
Past UU is kind of passable.
VGC hits you with the sunken cost fallacy so smogon players get shit on constantly by them (They want to feel like all the time they wasted was not for naught)
They're just bootlickers who are incapable of thinking about someone wanting to play by their own rules. If it's not developer-supported, it's "wrong"
Ganker in general seems to be filled with those types of people, so long as the developers aren't woke that is
I give those posts the benefit of the doubt, they're likely being contrarians to farm engagement. But it's possible that some younger users might have genuinely never played something by their own rules before. They only know online matchmaking.
I tend to assume the worse of people here. I think that so long as you're not overtly "woke" by their standards (Which means your series has hot chicks in scantily clad clothing), that means they will defend your trash to the death. However if you're overtly "woke", even if the shit you make is good that means that you're game's threads are going to get shit on constantly.
Nintendo is just very good at managing culture war stuff, them being japanese helps, and it abbawdely is a culture war thing, Ganker is in particular heavily invested in the culture war, the only thing tha I would say they are beat out by is conservative marvel movie reviewers (like the critical drinker, nerdrotic) and breadtube.
VGC is fun, Smogon isn't. Smogongays are annoying because they constantly whine the game isn't built for their preferred playstyle, and fan run metas tend to be cancer because when you can just spam bans players will prefer to call for that rather than adapt to a true metagame.
Like to this day Smogon doubles has tatsugiri banned because of the suicide Flamigo strat everyone learned to play around in week 2 before paradox were even available.
>Smogongays are annoying because they constantly whine the game isn't built for their preferred playstyle
When?
Literally nonstop last gen when the timer was 20 minutes only and that's just one example.
>game introduces something fricking moron
>everyone rightfully complains
VGCucks are so whipped they go schizo when anyone criticizes their beloved GF
What else is new...
And that got fixed.
>doesn't play the game
They do it all the fricking time. You’re either a complete newbie or pretending to be ignorant as a coping mechanism.
>WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE SUPREME OVERLORD BROKEN WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6?
>WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE LAST RESPECTS BROKEN WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6?
>WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE HAZARDS MORE EASY TO SET WHEN LITERALLY NO FORMAT IN THE GAME SUPPORTS 6v6?
>WAAAAAH WHY DID THEY MAKE TYRANITAR BAD EVEN THOUGH SOMEONE LITERALLY WON A REGIONAL WITH IT LAST WEEK?
>literally no format
Lol? 6v6 is literally a format, moron
Do you really think you can't play 6v6 link battles?
>6v6 is literally a format
No it isn’t.
Then why can you play it?
Because you’re playing the braindead casual mode that doesn’t have any actual ruleset.
So you must go to local VGC tournaments, right?
No. I just sit down and play the game instead of staring at tier rankings like fanfictards. Isn’t it amazing?
So you don't compete? Interesting.
That’s not what I said. Are you alright, fanfictard? Are you well?
>That’s not what I said.
Yes it is. I asked if you went to tournaments, and you said no.
Why do you care about what is casual or not if you don't even compete? Get TPC's wiener out of your mouth.
Competing and not going to tournaments aren’t mutually exclusive. Are you alright, fanfictard? Are you well?
>No. I just sit down and play the game
No you don't
>No it is-ACK
fanfic meta
but enough about your life
Welcome back Heatran. Gone for about as long as I expected.
CONKELBROS WE'RE STILL IN IT
>| 44 | Skeledirge | 3.380% |
> | 50 | Meowscarada | 2.913% |
AW FRICK FELLOW CATSISTERS THE CLOWNGATOR IS AHEAD OF US ACK-
What a pathetic excuse of a shillmon, it's not even broken like her brothers in its debut Gen
>her
Meowscarada is a male only pokemon design
Yeah dude's the sort who likes them chubby chicks.
Because they gutted Protean you dummy
What's your message to this Pokemon now?
FALL
FALL YOU STUPID CAT
FALL
Great Tusk at home
I wish I could have shown these usage stats to 2016 /vp/.
>beloved pokemon like garchomp and tyranitar fell out of OU
The entire cuckmunity had it coming. In fact, I adore this considering Game Freak made my favorites weak for the sake of it with no reason at all.
Tyranitar might have some relevancy when Excadrill comes back.
I'm hoping some more of the fossilmons do too, but it's unlikely.
>I'm hoping some more of the fossilmons do too, but it's unlikely.
You know full on well Game Freak won't allow that.
The Sinnoh fossils are coming back, but those were the only ones absent from last gen.
Why not ALL the fossil Pokemon? Is this franchise really that overdue for a massive buckbreaking?
>Why not ALL the fossil Pokemon?
Because you'll buy it anyway.
>Because you'll buy it anyway.
I'm not going to buy any of the games. Pirating? Maybe.
Exca cannot save Tyranitar, there's a ton of competition for Ground types this gen and sand as a whole is just not a good play style.
Excadrill would probably bully TTar out of the lower tiers hilariously enough.