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When you tell Ashe to give it a rest
eldar look ugly
Good.
Because they are
IIRC the lore (or at least older lore) stated that both Humans and Eldar look *just* similar enough to each other that they slam straight into the Uncanny Valley for both sides. This is pretty hard to convey in media so making them somewhat visually unappealing or inhuman is the best compromise.
...why does her romance suck so much?
I was pretty hyped for an eldar romance, but Yrliet is so lame I might as well go with Cassia.
>I might as well go with Cassia.
you should be going to Cassia anyways
How can anyone play this shit without cringing? Are all crpgs just glorified VNs?
>How can anyone play this shit without cringing?
By being a straight man or lesbian woman.
IRL it's worse much much worse anon but you wouldn't know that would you?
>t. never got a single crumb of pussy
After BG3 every single RPG has to have deranged sex. At least it's completely optional in this game
>why does her romance suck so much?
Because it's a disgusting xeno.
What did you think an Eldar romance was going to be like? Your fricking doujinshi?
Ask fricking marazhai
Yeah, he's capable of feeling passion. Of course his romance is going to be more fulfilling.
She makes pretty clear what she's about from the very get-go. She's an Eldar, she is pushing away her emotions actively, has disdain for people who indulge themselves, and views you as fundamentally lesser. Romancing her is proving that you're willing to support her people, proving that you have temperance like her people value, and proving that you're capable of rational empathy. If that doesn't sound like fun, then you don't really want a romance with an Eldar.
>If that doesn't sound like fun, then you don't really want a romance with an Eldar.
It isn't and yes I do and you don't know eldar.
Yeah okay, Anon. Put your money where your mouth is. What's your take on Eldar and how should a romance with one be handled?
NTA, but if you played Mark of Chaos, the relationship between Aurelion and Stefan van Kessel was a great setup for a romance. Too bad nothing came out of it, because dark elves killed her. I would go for something like that.
Elves in Warhammer don't have nearly the same burdens of conduct placed on them as the Eldar, so I don't see it translating well. Besides, I'd like to see any human partner to demonstrate more than just battle prowess if they wanted to convince an Elf to overcome what is essentially a disgust-response akin to bestiality.
Warhammer Fantasy elves don't treat humans like animals. There are elf/human pairings all around the lore. Worst case scenario, they'll treat you like ignorant children, but show them you are capable enough and they are your besties.
Not really here nor there, I was talking about a romance with an Eldar. Besides, I'd still find the bar for romancing an Elf in a setting being "prove you're really good at killing stuff" to be pretty demeaning.
Exactly what we got except there's actual physical intimacy. I could take or leave sex, doesn't matter. But comforting like hugging, hand holding, and so forth definitely. Both in the real world and within the spirit worlds of both of you.
Also the betrayal needed to be avoidable through the correct choices. But that's really not related to her romance since it doesn't matter one way or another.
So you want the same thing except you want cheesecake scenes to make you feel special. I just can't get behind a romance with Eldar that doesn't prioritize demonstrating the ability to embody the sort of virtues they value despite being a human before any sort of physical intimacy takes place. Eldar regard humans similarly to animals. It would take a lot to overcome that view, and physical displays of intimacy should be gated behind overcoming it.
Except by your own admission the romance already does that, so adding to that takes nothing away from what's there.
I know this is Ganker so understanding of relationships is a bit beyond most anons, but all romantic relationships; and obviously this is going to apply even to stuff like human/eldar because ultimately humans are the ones writing and playing the game; are reciprocal. And the fundamental issue with Yrliet's romance is that it's you/your RT doing all the world in bridging the gap while comparatively she doesn't.
>Eldar regard humans similarly to animals
No they don't. And even if we take what the eldar actually think of humans, Yrliet doesn't think that about the RT.
How does that connect to her selling you out to the dark eldar for no goddamn reason?
It doesn't. These threads are a shitshow due to the 40k autists being in here. You've got everything from noldorgay, to timmies to all the in between brands of autism.
Yrliet's an interesting take on an eldar because she doesn't fit into her people and actively hates some of their stupidity, but she's also at times really poorly written. Or rather, the writing is good, but the scenarios/plot points are dumb.
>but she's also at times really poorly written
>despite being different species, we should really learn to trust each other, says the space elf that backstabs you 5 minutes later
Thanks, Russkies. More Krabs will be deployed on Ukraine until the situation improves.
...more rich in content? Less requiring you to be a total simp to some c**t that keeps backstabbing you every 5 minutes?
It's Camellia all over again.
Despite her quirk. Camellia never backstabs you, personally.
She stabs you openly, just to see what happens. That's not much of an improvement.
If im going to be stabbed in the back, then id rather it be from the front
>Fish is his option B
You don't deserve her, go jack off alone in your room
Elder brothers what have we don’t this week
AAARGH!!!
WITCH!
Noorrr!!
She’s casting spells!
Where are those blasted guards
That's not my real platonic wife.
kys gachaBlack person
actually genuinely go tie a rope and have a nice day right now
Anon are you in the right thread?
hahahaha
What did you do with the chode darling
I'm pretty sure something's bugged out in my game because it keeps defaulting to playing the benevolent triumph OST (which I thing is the iconoclast theme)
It's been happening ever since I in my first run they gifted me that broken telescope thing.
>Edition
>>>/vg/
i will never buy OwlBlack person's game.
first i bought Kingmaker and aparently acts 3-5 were half cut
then i pirated wotr, and same shit, but with troony and Black person at the beginning at the game
and now this game where act 3-5 are again cut
frick you owlBlack folk
>Pathfinder half elves are a prostitute and a psycho
>BG3 half elf wants to cuck you
>Rogue trader space elf won't even touch you
Why are elves like this?
Elves gonna elf.
BG3 drow is very territorial and loyal to you, unlike Shadowheart. Get yourself better elves.
I can't believe they accidentally made a 10/10 wife.
All it took was writing someone they hate.
You only need to go murderhobo to get her. And then you realize she has no content anyway. No, thanks.
latest patch lets you knock her out and recruit her in act 2. naturally, you have to play the game to know this.
And because 90% of her content is in Act 1, all that does is it skips most of her romance buildup and then in Act 2 she just announces she's in love with you at random. You don't even get to bang, because that's Act 1 content.
>latest patch lets you knock her out and recruit her in act 2. naturally,
That sounds absolutely moronic considering the cutscenes with her in Act 1.
it's pandering
waifugays won't even commit genocide for their hag, baka
Because you were meant to burn them, not breed them.
I still think the funniest thing about Camellia was seeing a bunch of gays trying to claim
>She's le hecking pure waifu
despite the fact she clearly tells you she's used to fricking after her murders because it helps her calm down.
Yeah but she's old and has very little content.
I think my favourite thing about Camellia was some autist commissioning the artist who did the ending slides, so he could make a mod with his own happy ending with her.
Still not sure if that was based for the autism or cringe for wasting that time and money on Camellia.
Based, the guy knew he knew better than Owlcat. And put his wallet where his mouth was.
>Yeah but she's old
Shart is like, 40-60
Drow live forever compared to humans, and the only thing that's been in her is another woman and her toys
You get a territorial cougar with a tight, fresh body, who wants strong heirs and the ascension of your house to dominance. Where's the downside?
It's just her voice. If you talk with her it turns out she is on the younger side, probably late twenties in human years.
>she's old
She aged well. Funny enough, I pick up the same vibes from her as from that biker chick I used to date. Extremely territorial and clingy, unexpectedly thoughtful and collected one moment, a shitstorm of violence in the next.
She is probably dead now. Rest in peace, you adorable psycho c**t.
I can't quite rationally explain, but there's something incredibly enticing about blue/purple pussy
It's annoying you have to irl beat them up to get that color
Just be a chad and use spraypaint
The people who write elf romances ironically tend to like elves, but everybody who likes elves has to contend with the deluge of obnoxious sex-memes about Elves, which leads to them producing reactionary content in which Elves are psychos that ruin your life just so they don't get too strongly waifu'd.
God I love Aeldari women so much
Yrliet does in fact touch you though
Which type of resources should my first extractors be focused upon? I have no idea as to the relative value of them. I'm kinda thinking of just planting them on the first shit I come across and hoping for the best. I assume they're not so scarce overall.
Adamantine and the crystal thing first.
Why can't we sanction her legally?
Because it's kinda redundant? Sanctioning xenos is for when you want them to walk around actual imperial worlds, and the Koronus Expanse isn't official imperial territory yet.
what the frick is up with theodora's room and why does every action I choose while sitting down ends up with my character getting gassed and guards showing up?
It's a way to get the data cache, you have to select the right options to get it. Don't remember which ones besides the fire something wine.
its security measure, if you choose correct wine music and book a secret room will open
hints which are correct you could encounter earlier,
I just clicked them all one by one.
Sex with concept art idira
Built for Argenta.
Why is she so much better looking in the concept art
Why the frick isn't her icon art in-game modeled after that
built for Argenta's BBC(Big Bolter Calibre)
plapmod when
>outsmarted by humans at every turn
>superior lifeform
Uh huh.
All I wanted was an Eilistraeean waifu. Frick you, Swen.
I know Ganker has always been a Nurgle board but you know what, as someone who has only otherwise been exposed to Warhammer via DoW1 and its threads, I think Tzeentch seems like a pretty interesting guy. I could get behind him.
t. zeentch
Did these b***hes just call me gay? I'm fricking romancing the fish already. I've simply been accommodating towards Heinrix because I'm dogmatic.
>Dogmatic is a closet gay
what a shocking twist
Do you have the playersexual setting on in toybox?
Because that's the only way that happened.
I haven't installed Toybox for Rogue Trader, so it must be Owlcat up to their old unpolished tricks.
It could just be weird dialogue, or you've got the romance flags active. I assume since you actively romanced Cassia you're playing a maleRT
What you could do to check without toybox is if you also got Yrliet in your party wait for the meditation scene in act II. Every romance you've currently got active shows up in your spirit world.
That Argenta line is actually Jimmi's response, kek. What a bug.
Except it's not.
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>almost 2 hours of voiced banter
Did I just get really unlucky since most of my banter was unvoiced or was it a bug
The simplest truth of all is that Half-Elves are abominations, and racemixing leads to soulless psychopaths whose only interests are sadistic mindgames.
Half an ear? Don't draw near.
Crawford, stop shitposting on Ganker and fix 5e's balance first.
Buy more modules or else I'm going to make the trees gay
You haven't already?
When did Ganker start hating elf folk? Is this an imperial psyop?
It's a immunological reaction to combat the rampant Noldorgay shitting up the place.
/tg/ autism leaking in
What's the most optimal™ minmaxed™ optimized™ combination of background+stats+archetypes where everything synergizes with everything? I am minmaxsexual and it's important to me
Psyker warrior or soldier with the secondary homework bonuses you like.
Or if you want to pew pew pew, fortress world, soldier then Imperial guard or navy. There are more broken builds, but the latter especially is hard to frick up.Just never stop shooting
Finished the game yesterday
The last 10 hours sucked so much that it ruined the entire game for me
I liked the NOMOS intervention
It really didnt save the entire discussion with Xavier. He just lore dumps the entire game in 2 minutes with no buildup and then the game ends after the shittiest boss fight ever.
That and the fact that you get the coolest equipment right before the game ends really pissed me off. Owlcat clearly rushed the last acts.
Did anyone finish making the chaos sword? I wanted to check what its like online but all I can find is some vague gay guides, no screenshots or stats.
Anyone?
>read about how The first chapter boss is hard or can be down to the wire
>block him in and down him in one round
It's pretty much a test.
>did you actually READ the talenst you pick
>did you ACTUALLY read ahead to see what works together
>Did you actually click on the motherfricker and see what he does
plus
>Did you actually explore everything and picked he few good pieces of equipment in chapter 1 and extra XP
Surprising amount of people fail at step 1.
The sniper was much more challenging tbh
>That and the fact that you get the coolest equipment right before the game ends
What do you mean? You can't use necron weapons at all
'And they shall weep' could become available a few hours earlier
Kind of makes me want to mod in super hard mode difficulty but give the party all the endgame equipment in the prologue.
Just use toybox then
And they shall weep, which is the most brutal bolter in the game - deals about 8x dmg as any other weapon really. I actually stopped using it
Theres a couple swords, a drukhari rocket blaster, a plasma gun, 2 power armours, etc...
None of which you get to use for more than a couple fights by which point you are entirely overpowered
>They Shall Weep
Holy shit, that thing was meant for Archmilitant second weapon, even its tiny burst can outdo a full-on shuriken cannon or improved heavy bolter burst. It also uses the top tier bolter model even though it's not displayed.
Eldar actually are superior to humans though, right? They have superior senses, longevity, think faster and are more psykically-tuned. Humans can have stronger physiques but Eldar are typically much more agile. So, like, besides Humans being able to make more Humans much more easily than Eldar make Eldar aren't Eldar just actually superior?
I don't even think baseline, unmodified humans are capable of having stronger physiques than Eldar.
Otherwise yeah, aside from the usual sterility-stick that Elves get nerfed with in fantasy settings, Eldar are effectively superior to humans.
It just doesn't ring with the same racism vibe when the humans really are inferior monkeighs. They may be being pricks about it, but they ain't telling lies.
Old humans vastly surpassed the pointy ears in technology, that's the real reason of their eternal butthurt.
Not really, Eldar empire had better tech at its height than the golden age of mankind.
nope, they were already decaying, at first they thought of humans as pet project just like the other race i cant remember did for them, but when the AI thingies started to outmatch them, they go butthurt.
that's where all the "ho you stupid child your going to crash and burn"...when it was actually them who did.
elves are dumb & stupid
The AI Thingies totally did bite them all in the ass, though, and it didn't really outpace anything the Eldar had available. That's why Humans never fricked around with the Eldar before their collapse- They would've found out hard.
I understand that Elvish superiority is causing you great distress.
I mean we know what Eldar tech looked like at the fall since that is what they still have today (DEldar in particular) since Eldar are creatively sterile and were at their peak from beginning to end, and it at best keeps up with what little we know DAoT humanity was capable of.
LMAO, no. Humanity at the height of its golden age was essentially treated like a third world upstart by the Eldar Empire, when they even bothered to acknowledge its existence at all. And there was jack shit humanity was able to do about it.
Yes and Eldar straight up stole their technology from the old ones, while humans invented new tech, althrough the emperor also wanted to steal the webway tech.
Eldar don't have any webway technology. They inherited it from the old ones but can't manufacture new parts. The Emperor is the first being since the Old ones that created new parts of the webway without resorting to demon engines like the old ones did.
>The Emperor is the first being since the Old ones that created new parts of the webway without resorting to demon engines like the old ones did.
and it worked just fine
It worked fine until Magnus didn't rupture a unfinished tunnel. The war in the webway was a emergency patch up job where the Emperor personally led custodes to safeguard mechanicus priest doing the repairs.
This is kind of bad ass I never knew this piece of lore.
Outright false. A large part of the Webway network was created after the War in Heaven.
Yeah, using the trio of demon engines. Tuchulcha, Ouroboros and Plagueheart. Then they were disassembled and hidden. Ever since then Eldar can only cut off path of the webway nothing else.
Cool story, bro. Meanwhile, the Eldar had no problem vastly expanding the Webway past-Fall of Heaven all by themselves. Deal with it.
Also not truth.
Commoragh was vastly increased in size since the Fall. Also, Azrael's novel Dark Angels use Eldar warclock help to make a fast route to Night Lords flagship via temporary webway corridor
It's just Eldar hubris. In the Horus Heresy they show some of the leftover weaponry from the human golden age and humanity had guns that erased you from the time stream and rewrote history so if you had kids they never existed and people that knew you forget you even stood beside them a second ago. Eldar have nothing that can compare. They can't achieve actual immortality and need soulstones to survive when post-fall humans like Bile can casually transfer souls with 40k era tech better than the dark eldar can.
That's great. And al that human golden age tech... made them about the equivalent of fricking Iran while the Eldar Empire was the equivalent of the US. They didn't just have things that compared, humanity had nothing that compared to a lot of the top-end stuff the Eldar had back then.
>They can't achieve actual immortality
They had achieved immortality for the entirety of their population for literally millions of years by the time humanity moved beyond banging rocks together, moron.
>and need soulstones to survive
Post-Fall. We're talking pre-Fall Eldar, moron.
>made them about the equivalent of fricking Iran while the Eldar Empire was the equivalent of the US
No it didn't humans fought wars with the ldar empire until the eldar brokered for peace. The lore states plainly that the humans were expanding so fast and so aggressively than eve orks sued for peace with them. You xenogays forget that the Eldar military wasn't that strong. The greatest warriors the Eldar had were created post-fall and you see them today as the aspect warriors. Those were the first eldar that actually could stand in a fair fight against chaos.
Yes it did. Humanity fought small-scale conflicts with Eldar pleasure cults and pirate gangs when they decided to massacre or enslave entire human planetary populations for the lulz. And the absolute best they could achieve was make those groups back off and broker a peace.
Humanity fought the Eldar equivalent of american 19th century filibusters and crime syndicates, and achieved a fricking draw. And you absolute lorelet moron think that means they won a war against the actual empire.
>The greatest warriors the Eldar had were created post-fall
LOL. LMAO, even.
Eldar can't even deal with Slaanesh at their height. Imperium fought all the four gods at once and won against the greatest chaos champion to ever exist. Eldar always were weak.
>Imperium fought all the four gods
Nope?
Yeah they did. The war was all about creating a fifth chaos god. The Dark King. It failed, The Emperor didn't fall to chaos. The backup Dark King was erased from existence. Humanity won where Eldarl failed. Eldar are WEAK always were.
>The Dark King. It failed, The Emperor didn't fall to chaos. The backup Dark King was erased from existence.
>Sigilite and Ahriman openly says that Dark King isn't gone completelya and still exists in the Warp
>Emperor tossed away his humanity before fighting Horus and almost finished morphing into Dark King in 42 millenium
The idea of a dark king existed during the war in heaven and is a legend present in the cultures of every race in the galaxy. Humans stopped his prophesied birth. Eldar failed to stop the birth of Slaanesh. Simple as. The idea might still exists but the Imperium won against fate. Eldar are weak, always were.
You don't understand the nature of Chaos.
Abanddon is controlled by the Emperor.
>The idea might still exists but the Imperium won against fate.
>Emperor stopped morphing into the Dark King only because Olanius Pious called to his humanity
>Emperor aftyer fighting Horus doesn't have any humanity left in him
>Imperium won
The whole Dark King thing was only about the Emperor originally. Now it's about Abaddon. It's still around, which makes it even more fricking stupid.
>An average craftworld has no defense against Imperium's hackjob warships based on not even backward but outright primitive tech, other than not getting anywhere close to space where you can encounter those
>Apparently they were able to repel proper pre-collapse humanity space warfare, despite eldar level tech back then suffered much less degradation than human level of tech when compared to 40M
Something doesn't fit there.
However it's not even the most significant contradiction, most significant one is as of 30M majority of galaxy was populated by humans, which should tell us who was capable of grabbing the most before everything went to shit. "But they didn't expand because they were decadent and gay" is a moronic explanation, and a writer who gave it was a moron.
>The greatest warriors the Eldar had were created post-fall
How is that not true? The lore plainly states Eldar won through numbers against the Necrons. The modern aspect warriors still can't beat Necrons in a fair fight and these are the dudes that for the first time in history of their race channel their god of war specifically to get stronger than they normally can.
Well, yeah. The Eldar aren't wrong about Humans in 40K. Humans are flawed, and their flaws are dooming the whole galaxy, and they'd rather doom the entire galaxy than accept one where they aren't trying to conquer it.
Eldar are frightening enemies because they -are- superior. Their small numbers would mean they'd be irrelevant if anything else were the case.
If you read Imperium lore, there's space marines killing Eldar left and right relatively easily. If you read Eldar lore, even a mediocre Eldar warrior is purportedly capable of killing entire squads of them.
The setting sets aside how strong Eldar are when they need human protagonists to shine, but in canon, Eldar are simply superior on every metric short of population and resources.
>their flaws are dooming the whole galaxy
There's enormous bugs that eat planets, fungi that come in the form of violent and destructive muscle-bound brutes, genocidal undead metal skeletons and those nearly omnipotent 4 gods that want to unmake creation and it's humanity that's dooming the galaxy?
Humans did more harm to the galaxy in 30 thousand years than orks did in 30 million.
And Elves have done more harm than all the other races combined
>those nearly omnipotent 4 gods
Chaos only has any power because of the sentient minds that inhabit the galaxy. If everyone in real space died then so would the Chaos gods.
>If everyone in real space died then so would the Chaos gods
We're on it.
I thought the necrons actually want flesh bodies to go back to.
It's why they big boss hates the tyrannids, they will eat his flesh suit wardrobe
Their motivations change with every new edition. They want their lives back, but they also hate Chaos and the Warp and also want to snuff out all life... you get it.
So, what's their latest fad then? Is getting flesh bodies no longer relevant?
I actually have no idea. Something about the C'Tan returning, dunno, GW doesn't care, buy more space marine toys.
Their latest fad is giving more screentime to spess muhreens
That's not latest, that's something that was always the case.
>latest fad
The sheer audacity of the implication xenos were ever relevant is more outrageous than the fact GW force so much Marine content. Xenos exist only as background fluff and punching bags for the MARINE CHADS to humiliate. That's all they ever were.
Most sentient Necrons want to return to mortality (About 80% of them).
You got the insane ones who wants total death and flaying of all living things, and themselves after that (This is more of a mental disease. than an actual faction).
You also have the Diviners, who believe that mortality and immortality is foolish, when you can instead help your race to ascend as godlike beings (Orikan the Diviner, is the most important of these guys, and even succeeded for a short while, overpowering about 5 shards worth of a C'Tann.) The idea is to become beings of sentient energy or something like that. This group is generally just a small part of the main Necron faction, since they have yet to create a permanent ascension.
All this shit will never be as cool to me as a vague "immortal undead robots".
Yeah, but long term, that would reduce them to just being Tyranids 2.0. It's not as fun. I don't think "Space Tomb Kings" was a way to go as well, but that's something.
That's fun for a few years but it gets stale really fast
C'tan aren't real gods and their power is extremely limited. Chaos is multi-dimensional and if the 40k universe undergoes a heat-death they will still exist not so much the C'tan who actually need food to live.
They need the food to grow stronger, but not to live. Also only one full C'Tann has ever been killed since they are such integral parts of the universe that the results of their deaths is so immense (When Khaine killed a C'Tann, the ripples in the universe caused every living being to become aware of their own mortality + Corrupting Khaine into becoming a violent super butthole instead of just a violent butthole)
Cringe cope-lore from a irrelevant factions codex that has no reflection in any other book in the setting.
>I thought the necrons actually want flesh bodies to go back to
Just the crazy necrons that don't get invited to the gauss barbecues
this fricking meme again, guess what, chaos is multiversal/dimensional, if every single living thing in the milky way would die, the gods wouldnt give a frick, they would still exist, they wouldnt suddenly lose power, look at End Times/AoS birth, the gods fricked over the world and simple moved the frick on, god I fricking hate secondaries
Nope
Not in 40K. Its as that Cabal said. The Gods can be starved to death.
>god I fricking hate secondaries
Hate of the self is not healthy, anon.
Holy secondary
>If you read Eldar lore, even a mediocre Eldar warrior is purportedly capable of killing entire squads of them.
Wasn't it
Imperium named characters > every other named character > Eldar > Space Marines > Most Xenos > Imperial Forces
The average spehss mehreen is physically and mentally superior than than the average elf
No Generic Space Marines get their ass beat by Generic Aspect Warriors.
They slaughter Guardians, but that's the eldar equivalent of PDF forces.
No they don't, if a Dire Avenger and a Space Marine are close to each other, the eldar will get pummeled into paste
We talking tabletop or lore?
I can't recall tabletop, but don't the dire avengers have bad stats?
Also, lore
NTA, but tabletop wise, a Dire Avenger gets crushed by a space marine (doesn't matter if it's primaris or firstborn) in close combat, but the DA will outshoot the marine and is much faster.
Generally speaking lorewise and on tabletop, aspect warriors beat marines in their chosen field, but marines are much more generalist and flexible.
>Also, lore
Like I said my impression was that Aspect Warriors tended to roll over space marines unless an imperial named character gets involved.
But those things are nightmarish entities that duel chaos lords despite being "baseline humans" and other ridiculous feats.
>their flaws are dooming the whole galaxy
What is Eye of terror?
Where exactly is Eye of terror?
Under which circumstances Eye of terror has come to be there, and which species is accountable for it?
>The Eldar aren't wrong about Humans in 40K
Eldars in their natural habitat and unobstructed behavior make humans look like monks similar to craftworlders.
Craftworlders themselves talk shit about human simply due to mere resentment of humans having access to what craftworlders themselves can no longer have because of consequences of how their species live their lives.
>Eldar are simply superior on every metric short of population and resources
Except that part of population and resources are THE metric of how effective the species is. Species is a system. What use can system have, if it cannot replenish itself and proliferate?
In the impossible case of humanity's major problems going away, it will be able to erase eldars from realspace without breaking a sweat, and it will do so, because two intelligent species cannot coexist.
They aren't real anon, the Elf-chads can't hurt you.
>Elf-chads
An oxymoron
Whatever makes you feel better, haha
>..I like elves
Why would you publicly admit this?
Because they're cool?
Look, you can fantasize about being a giant hairy ogre with a huge jawline all day and nobody thinks it's weird. If I, a giant hairy ogre with a huge jawline, want to imagine myself as a well-groomed aristocrat with pale, sharp features, why shouldn't I?
>Look, you can fantasize about being a giant hairy ogre
das rite
Bold of you to assume i dont already fantasise about being a Ogryn
...I like elves.
Male elves are gigachads and the best bros.
Female elves are the best waifus.
What's not to like?
Some people dislike Elves because Elves have so many advantages over Humans. When elves are bad guys in media, they usually emphasize that they're better. This causes a lot of seethe.
Sometimes elves can be incredibly stupid and smug about it. Normaly this wouldn't be a problem, as hubris is a good way to introduce conflict in a story, be it a tragedy or a comedy (see the other thread about farseers and stairs). But when you combine idiocy with a "holier than thou" atitude, with no character growth from friendship, introspection from failure, humbling divine punishment, etc, it just irks people the wrong way. Look at yiik for an example, and imagine an entire species of Alex Yiik. And then you have "people" like noldorgay who promote the worst traits of elves and complain when people point out their flaws and shortcomings. Imagine if Alex Yiik had a dedicated knob polisher like that. And I will not even think about opening the can of worms that were elves in early internet OC culture.
...I don't know who Alex Yiik is.
As for the elves, a bit tangentally, I like the way Forgotten Realms deals with elves, with the sun elf/moon elf conflict.
Sun elves THINK they are the coolest shit of Faerun, but they are just arrogant buttholes that even other elves dislike and singlehadedly created every crisis in Faerun. On the other hand, you have moon elves that are chill bros who just like to hang out with humans. It's a nice way of having a cake and eating it too.
>...I don't know who Alex Yiik is
Good for you, I mean it.
>I like the way Forgotten Realms deals with elves
I am not much into D&D other than neverwinter nights so I can't comment, but I realy like how the elder scrols elves act. They have their cultures, with their excentricities and quirks, but still act like individuals within a culture. Like the high elves/altmer who had their government replaced by evil nutjobs that hate existing and want to plunge the world back into primordial soul soup, but there are still plenty of altmer that enjoy life and have their own goals. In contrast you have the dark elves/dunmer who also underwent a change of leadership in recent years, yet their culture is still about enjoying the struggle of life, much like the nords, who they often fought. And despite the dunmer fighting the nords and the empire in the past, individuals from all groups can still be cordial and friendly and enemies to each other, giving the setting plenty of nuance
>dozens of HFYgays
>People who hate elves are way more prevalent
Bullshit, most "elf hate" was aimed at shit like drowtales and nowadays is greatly overstated. And the only place where you can still find HFYgayging is in Avatar threads. Notice how avatar and drowtales are both mental diarrhea where the author only complains about how evil humans are? Compare those two with the world that Tolkien created, a WW1 vet who saw the worst of humanity. He came back home with most of his friends in coffins and instead of going "Woe is me, all humans are evil and must be killed/replaced by my perfect OC species!", he made a world where even the mightiest angels and elves have their failings, and even orcs are pitiable, with humans in the middle. And no-one complains about him.
tl;dr strong/beautiful/perfect Elves/non-humans don't cause hate and hfygayging, bad writing does
No, YOU'RE the one who's bullshitting. There is no way you've consumed any sort of fantasy media of the last six years even in passing and not come across the brainrot I'm describing.
Elf-Hate is still a regular thing you can find in threads all over this site, including this thread. Elder Scrolls is a great example of a fandom filled with people who love memeing about how much they hate elves and how evil elves are. There are in fact entire fantasy settings people have written, such as the Witcher, where Elves serve no purpose aside to be something to hold in contempt.
Besides anything, bad writing has little to do with it. Most HFYgaygers don't know what good writing looks like, and the very same setting you just described as doing Elves in a way you like is full of that same garbage attitude.
Tl;Dr At best you're supremely ignorant about the state of modern writing/fandoms at worst you're engaging in apologia because you are the problem
>Elder Scrolls is a great example of a fandom filled with people who love memeing about how much they hate elves and how evil elves are
Because racial genocide and conflict is a big part of the setting, but it's less of a HFY and more of a support for your chosen race, like there's Thalmor apologists too
It just sounds lie you're seething Altmer aren't a popular race and that the only popular elf race, the Dunmer, don't much care for the idea of merish supremacy
I don't care about the Altmer being popular, no. I think you're absolutely fricking fooling yourself if you believe the elf-hate memes made by Pelinal posters are remotely comparable in nature of density to the handful of memes made about Dunmer thinking Argonians are property or something.
I don't care whether or not Altmer are popular. Dunmer have plenty of people calling them Black folk of some stripe, too. This shit isn't hard to comprehend- There's a lot of people who hate on elves across fantasy in general, and TES is a great example of a fandom which harbors a lot of those people.
Even shit like Dragon Age in its attempt to make Elves a persecuted minority can't refrain from mostly making them undesirably wimpy in stature. In settings where Elves are strong they're nonetheless dwindling into nothingness, and in settings where they're weak they're wholly pathetic. That's what modern fantasy writing has done to the race.
TES is an example of a fantasy setting where Elves are pretty well-written, but no, it's still a setting where humans hijacked destiny and replaced the most powerful god in the setting with their own guy. He might be an evil bloodthirsty psychopath who was a trickster and a thief, but that's kind of water off a duck's back to people when you look at the big picture and it's- Oh, turns out Elves are trying to destroy the world and that dickbastard has aligned himself with the world existing, so now it's either Human Paradigm Forever or nothing.
But again, that's really neither here nor there. I'm not of the opinion that TES is a bad setting for how it treats Elves for the most part. I do think, however, that its fanbase has tons of people who hate them. This is patently obvious, and made moreso by the fact that we couldn't even have this conversation without multiple others posters being driven to state so openly in the process.
I'll say those commenters are proof that I'm right, and that it's in no way understated.
>dragon age
Ok, you got me. I tried to play the first game but I got bored before I finished the prologue, and the new one being called Dreadful doesn't inspire me to retry them.
>In settings where Elves are strong they're nonetheless dwindling into nothingness
Again, bad writers. They just copy Tolkien with no rhyme or reason.
>and in settings where they're weak they're wholly pathetic
Weak and pathetic are synonyms. And by the way, did you ever read "The Eternal Champion" by Moorwiener? I heartily recomend it, even if it is a bit heavy-handed at times.
What you dont have faith in Bioware?
>the new one being called Dreadful
Are you memeing or dyslexic?
>Again, bad writers. They just copy Tolkien with no rhyme or reason.
Because..?
Becouse he was and still is popular?
>Weak and pathetic are synonyms. And by the way, did you ever read "The Eternal Champion" by Moorwiener?
I'm the guy he's arguing with together with you.
I read almost every piece of Elric literature that exists, the one exception is Elric at the End of Time
I read Hawkmoon as a comic, the series that First Comics had on the 90s
Still haven't read Corum, though his comics look fricking amazing since the artist is a young Mike Mignola
>I don't care about the Altmer being popular, no
You say that, but it's demonstrably clear that you're seething about no one liking the altmer, in and out of universe
> I think you're absolutely fricking fooling yourself if you believe the elf-hate memes made by Pelinal posters are remotely comparable in nature of density to the handful of memes made about Dunmer thinking Argonians are
First, yeah they are. Memes about khajiit or argonian being furniture or farming equipment is super prevalent, and so are memes are about the Stormcloaks or Ulfric being racists or about the Dwemer killing falmer and so on. Second, you said you're not mad about the altmer being unpopular (twice) yet right here your argument isn't how the memes against beast races don't exist or shouldn't exist but"they're not as prevalent", ie. people like meme hatred of elves more.
>Dunmer have plenty of people calling them Black folk of some stripe, too.
They really don't. N'wah is just a funny word.
>This shit isn't hard to comprehend- There's a lot of people who hate on elves across fantasy in general
There's a lot of people who hate orcs, or goblins or wizards in general, yet I don't see you whining about it
Also, not directed at me but
>Even shit like Dragon Age in its attempt to make Elves a persecuted minority can't refrain from mostly making them undesirably wimpy in stature.
And? Is there a rule where they all have to be tall and inhumanly beautiful?
Pelinal did nothing wrong
He didnt go far enough!
>There is no way you've consumed any sort of fantasy media of the last six years even in passing and not come across the brainrot I'm describing.
Like what? I cannot comment on books as I have spent the last decade reding clasics like Dunsany, Moorwiener, Vance, Asimov and Wolfe, so I am completely out of touch with literature that came out in the last decade, but I am open to recommendations. As for the witcher, don't forget that the author purposefully took fantasy tropes and subverted and "modernised" them, like monsters being persecuted unjustly, and how breaking a curse with a kiss doesn't lead to a happily ever after. Witcher Elves were just colateral damage to the subversion. For TV, lol, lmao. Do you mean Lawd of them rangs, the d&d movie, or the witcher ""adaptation"". Because those mock and bastardise every character, race and creed that appears in them. And with video games I can't remember any that went out of their way to shit on elves, witcher 3 ignoring the scoia'tael aside. As for comics, if you mean western ones, again, lol, lmao. Anime/Manga on the other hand is relatively ok once you ignore the homogeneous slop that is isekai.
And Elder Scrolls is just like
said, genocide goes both and all ways.
See
This moron probably thinks Pelinal wiped out the Ayleids.
okay, I admit that he did one thing wrong - dying before finishing the job
Yeah yeah, go bugger more teenage boys gaybot
The problem is that for every story where that's the case, Humans are fellated in far more obnoxious ways, because Elves are only skewered like that for the purpose of jerking off Humans as the alternative with the moral high-ground.
Just how there might be a noldorgay in a thread, but that's nothing compared to the dozens of HFYgays who will threadshit about Elves constantly and unprompted.
People who hate elves are way more prevalent and vocal than people who love elves, which does actually prompt people who love elves to meme back.
>What is Eye of terror?
Where exactly is Eye of terror?
Under which circumstances Eye of terror has come to be there, and which species is accountable for it?
Eerie, knife eared silence.
Being far up your own ass is so crippling, it can severely mitigate many other advantages that you have.
Even post-apocalypse 40k humans who hit their head so hard they never really recovered have more common sense than eldars, and that's extremely valuable.
Also if your psychological profile is so incompatible with the reality you live in it spawns a god-like warp horror specifically dedicated to fricking you up, something might be very off about you in general.
Pretty much.
Doesn't help that the Imperium is basically space skaven, and rightfully treated the same way by the other factions.
Elves are spiritually deficient and sterile in many ways, not just physically, but mentally too
The Imperium's propaganda of human supremacy isn't really meant to be anything more than that
>Eldar actually are superior to humans though, right?
Nope. Elves are superios, Eldar aren't.
Unless you are talking about Tolkien Eldar
Warhammer elves are superior, but even then they have enough common sense to seek common ground with humans, because Teclis, Finubair and Allarielle are actually not moronic and they realize high elves are prone to frickups as well.
That alone puts them above the eldar.
You completely mised the point.
Asur are superior to humans, and this is why they so confident around them and constantly, even unintentionally makes power-moves when interacting with humans
>I'll admit, I find Bretonnia more tolerable than other Humans
Now compare it with endless spiteful "monkeigh" spelling of Imperium's battered wifes
Yeah, it's a very different dynamic.
In 40K the Eldar are pwned by every race and their history is of repeated failures and making stuff worse for everyone
In FB, they're one the setting's benefactors, and something of the great shepherds of the world. The only reason humans have magic is because Teclis traveled to the Empire to found the College of Mages
They have indeed keener senses, live longer and are more dexterous. Being more aligned with warp-frickery is not necessarily a good thing. And they are significantly dumber. So I'm not convinced they are superior.
Yes, eldar in 40k are a race of genetically engineered super soldiers. They can reach space marine levels simply through training, and even regular eldar militia (bakers and poets and shit that just gets a gun stuck in their hands) are equivalent of regular human elites like stormtroopers and sisters of battle.
Doesn't stop them from being losers though, and there's at least one writer at GW with a hateboner for them.
Humans are likely the final culmination of the Old One's creations. They were meant to inherit the galaxy as a noble race that would govern benevolently in their stead. A middle of the road species between the excesses of the Eldar and the strength of the Orks. With none of their strengths but none of their flaws. Humans as a race are actually superior because of that. But the problem the last Old One didn't anticipate when he created humanity was Chaos and how easily humans fall to corruption. But Chaos, as it would become, wasn't around back so it couldn't be accounted for.
DLC to meet Vect when?
Wasn't this retconned
Humans came long after the last Old One had died
>Vect jobs to some random tard who is impossibly super fast because there are 2 hoes constantly screaming at him
I don't think GW would be okay with that. They're only okay with Avatar of Khaine jobbing like this.
Vect wouldn't give a frick about some shitheel Rogue Trader.
>I don't think GW would be okay with that.
Have you played Soulstorm?
Vect could just be an NPC, not a boss.
Vect is a cut content. He was supposed to hold your act 3 trial. It's still called Vect's throne room.
Humans make perpetuals.
And dont forget the old proto-psyker shamans, had naturally developed immortality since they could just rebirth their own souls whenever they wanted. But the Eldar fricked that up from humanity by upsetting the warp and spawning Slaanesh
Nobody likes perpetuals
humans have perpetuals and blanks. even eldar shidded themselves at the thought of blanks assassins the inquisition have.
There are way too many loading screens in this game.
Bros I think the drifting voidship might be impossible at level 18 on unfair
Is that the infernal engine one?
Is there a way to unlock the non-RT origins in character creator (like navigator / cold trader / techpriest / etc)? Like with mods or toybox?
Are the old ones just lizardmen
Sure, let's go with that.
They are said to resemble the Slann/Old ones from fantasy.
>Rogue Trader
god i love this game like you wouldnt believe, its so much better than any oher RPG made in the last decade or so.
The only thing that annoys me is the cringe low IQ turn based combat, but at least its fast and i can fast forward enemy turns.
Love the art, aesthetics, dialogues and quests.
I just escaped from Commorah and butthurt Drukhari and rampaging across my holy domain, time for some xeno stomping.
>I just escaped from Commorah
Great. You are at the point where the game starts falling apart.
what do you mean? how far am i from the end of the game? so far i only encountered bugs during combat (models getting stuck) but i learned to quick save every turn so its fine.
one more reason to stop making motherfricking turn based games.
You are in Chapter 3 (which happens to be the end of the beta content), with two more Chapters to go. And Chapters 4 and 5 are a bugfest shitshow.
how far into the game i am if i just escaped commorah?
like 50% in? or more?
the game is long as fuuuuuck, im not complaining, im surprised how long it is.
I'd say 2/3rds in. Later chapters relatively short.
thanks : )
So currently lore-wise, how does tech status rankings go?
Necron>Eldars of various colors>Orc shit somehow working>Imperium?
Necron>Drukhari>Craftworld Eldar>Pre heresy Imperium>Pre heresy squats?>Tau>Current imperium and squats>Orks>Tyranids?
Chaos warpfrickery not counted
I didn't post an image at all, I don't even have this image. Lol what the frick Ganker.
Necron > Human AI > prefall Eldar > Krorks > Eldar > Mechanicus > Tau > Imperium > Orks
Imperium is too disparate to put as a single entity.
E.g. if you look at Tau vs Imperium fights the aesthetic is basically Desert Storm America mowing down hordes of semi-moronic durkastan guardsmen until the REAL army shows up.
>mfw game locks me up in a tight corridor with a ton of shitter enemies and argenta gets to move first with her heavy stubber/flamer combo
I can only assume this bugged out or something, she was always nice to me and I was to her
suddenly she is angry as frick
apart from other things ending slides seem to be almost random at times
>inquisitor is not dead by the end
>in the ending slide he is
>abelard says he will go to his house
>he sticks around till he is almost dead anyway (what a bro)
etc
At least you got character ending slides. I only got to see those if I chose to side with the C'tan.
Space elf coomers and hfygays, is there any group that did more damage to the science fiction genre than these two?
>hfygays
what
"Humanity Frick Yeah" gays.
Basically the group that instantly pushes that humans are the best race or species in any story they're in.
Stories where humanity as a whole are portrayed as exceptional or special in comparison to other alien species for reasons of masturbatory daydreaming designed to fellate the author and audience's ego. Generally these stories aren't very fun or interesting unless you're in it for the jerking off.
For all the people having an argument "who is the strongest" a reminder. Chaos has already won. They just feel like prolonging the inevitable, because it's funny.
>Chaos has already won
Chaos lost and exists on the mercy of the Emperor. The new HH books revealed that what the Emperor stole from the chaos gods is the ability to siphon their powers without limit and side effects to the point he can make them subservient to him.
HH isn't canon.
AHAHAHAHAHA
Anyone who gets their lore from a book that unironically uses the term "Speed of Darkness" deserves to be ridiculed and laughed at.
HH is a masturbatory fanfiction of back and forth retcons.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>I don't like it
>Thereforeit isn't canon
Holy frick anon stop embarrassing yourself any further
Also
>complaining about stupid names in a Warhammer setting
A primarch named Raven Raven isn't stupid?
lmao
about stupid names in a Warhammer setting
It wasn't a name, it was a phrase used to describe Horus when he was fighting Sanguinius.
Stop pretending 40k books aren't full of ridiculous shit like that
>Sanguinius was super duper amazing and fought a dozen Bloodthirsters at the same time and then he fought Angron and pulled out his brain through the Butcher Nails which made Angron literally BEG for mercy and then right after that Sanguinius went to fight Horus and was still so super duper strong that he moved at the SPEED OF LIGHT but it turns out Horus is EVEN MORE SUPER DUPER STRONG and he moved at the SPEED OF DARKNESS which was waaaay cooler and let him kill Sanguinius
>Eisenhorn blasts a chaos titan out of existance with his lmaostaff effortlessly
come the frick on
There's a crucial link here anon, and his name is Dan Abnett.
>effortlessly
Clearly not.
>nulore
Daily reminder that nulore has Khorn incarnating in the Materium only for the Emperor to create an avatar of himself and fight Khorn to a standstill and banish him.
Nulore shouldn't be taken seriously.
Old lore has Corn getting cucked out of his own domain by a single Tzeentchian demon. Corn is just that weak and dumb.
How is the bug situation? I have a save at the end of act 3 I am ready to load up once act 4 is playable
We're getting there. Few more months to go.
>Few more months
which chaos god causes this?
Papa Nurgle.
Poxwalkers? Nurgle. All rotten diseased stuff is Nurgle.
This fight was annoying as frick
I just said meet though
Shame
Iconoclast has led me to many moronic choices and some bad consequences, but the answer to Nomos really put it into perspective.
That was just fitting.
Beta Ray Bill is really inspiring.
>I act by the will of others, Hulk. The disk in my chest and in yours demand that one of us must die. You have my sympathy because it will not be me!
For as goofy as he looks, he is consistently one of the best characters in capeshit
Why do Owlcat games get allowed generals on Ganker?
I wish I had killed her in chapter 2, not 4.
Any way to douse the flames of an incendiary grenade?
it's getting worse
Can you only achieve picrel with toybox editing?
Yes
Weird. I mean, the armors are properly modeled, so it's weird Owlkeks didn't include a way to use them.
It doesn't really make sense lorewise to be fair, drukhari armor are implanted directly ontop the nerves of an Eldar, without any underarmor
It kinda sucks that she doesn't get any helmet though
the good ending as far as I'm concerned
praise the emperor
Fricking HOW. Explain, in details
I dunno man I just did Dogmatic shit and in the end had Nomos make Inquisitor Xavier explode and unleased Dogmatic Nomos on the Expanse
I also let him kill the heretic acolyte in his own quest, so maybe that's what triggered it
>I also let him kill the heretic acolyte in his own quest
So he's not even harshened? Damn Jimmi. Did he destroy the cogitator on Kiava or kept milking it for info?
I let him take all the info he wanted
no idea if that changed anything
As far as I know merciful Heinrix kills her, and harshened takes her with him to torture her for more info.
I just want to take a moment to appreciate the OST
aww sweet! Warp horrors beyond human comprehension!
Refute this.
Children of the Omnissiah>Scions of Lorgar>Voidborn>Semper Sevientes>Hanged Man's Lot>FootFallen>Nomos are Here>Martyr's Endurance> Edge of Daybreak>Unfathomable>The Benevolent Triumph
Scions of Lorgar > everything else
Scions of Lorgar is a bit too over the top. I prefer Edge of Daybreak.
Ixion OST > Mechanicus OST
WHere can I DL the OST
Benevolent Triumph>rest
Also Scions is vastly overrated.
>no Beyond the Nightmare
Dislike of space elves aside, what are your thoughts would this be a solid/probable DLC?
>Corsair captain companion
>Has his/her own ship and assists you in voidship battles
>DLC Expands voidship battle mechanics
>Can recruit Eldar origin custom companions from his/her crew after you earn his/her trust via either friendship or romance(IF he/she is romancable at all)
>Questline of hunting down Aeldari artifacts and the pirates/Slaanesh worshipers who seek to steal/defile them
>A chance to interact with Yrliet's story a bit (getting her soulstone for a happier ending if RT romanced her and avoid warp travel side effects by letting her travel on his/her ship)
>IF romancable make the romance a bit of a middleground between Yrliet and Marz, mostly Eldar, but with a bit of physical affection
Disappointed we didn't get a corsair in base game who would have made much much more sense than both Yrliet and Marz. I think they are the coolest Eldar that are hard for Owlcat to frick up compared to say Yrliet.
Also not denying the Freebota I hope we get him too and this isn't made out as a waifugay romance post so don't seethe about that
Clowns are the only eldars who are interesting.
I think they are cool, but Owlcat would probably mess them up as companions.
>too much work for Owlcat
I think they can just make a few Eldar corsair unique armors and the corsair's ship and just reuse the rest of the assets. Voidship battles are pretty simple so not hard to expand on and Eldar companions would just be adding in a few origin traits, they have the assets for the appearance.
>the DLC are already set in stone.
Just for the first season pass. I think the game will at least have 1 more.
Sounds fun, but a) too much work for Owlcat, b) the DLC are already set in stone.
Best case scenario, wait for Warhammer Fantasy cRPG and its inevitable elf waifu.
That's shit. Too many elves (Yrilet should be either corsair or clown)
If Owlcat smart they would milk game like CA milked Total Warhammer, by making additional stories (like Varnhold) about different races with their ships and making them avaiable in endless dungeon DLC
>Too many elves
I don't think 1 more would be too much, besides I've said space elf hate aside kek
>If Owlcat smart they would milk game like CA milked Total Warhammer, by making additional stories (like Varnhold) about different races with their ships and making them avaiable in endless dungeon DLC
They said they will make the DLCs within main story this time around, unlike WOTR/Kingmaker, maybe we see one roguelike dungeon though
>Doubt Owlcat would do that
Well it's just a few adjustments to ending slides and and some changes to dialogue in Yrliet's quests and romance, don't see why it would be too improbable.
>Corsair captain companion
Probable, could be fun
>Has his/her own ship and assists you in voidship battles
Not hard to pull off, would be great
>DLC Expands voidship battle mechanics
Same as above, voidship battles have potential. I enjoy them, they need fleshing out.
>Can recruit Eldar origin custom companions from his/her crew after you earn his/her trust via either friendship or romance(IF he/she is romancable at all)
I doubt this, would be funny if your RT can go in with a full Eldar party and have some funny interactions with the Eldar in Yrliet's quests
>Questline of hunting down Aeldari artifacts and the pirates/Slaanesh worshipers who seek to steal/defile them
Sounds good
>A chance to interact with Yrliet's story a bit (getting her soulstone for a happier ending if RT romanced her and avoid warp travel side effects by letting her travel on his/her ship)
Doubt Owlcat would do that
>IF romancable make the romance a bit of a middleground between Yrliet and Marz, mostly Eldar, but with a bit of physical affection
So basically what Yrliet should have been
>So basically what Yrliet should have been
His whole post is what Yrliet should've been to be honest.
Yeah, that would actually give you a massive reason to recruit and cooperate with her, unlike current Yrliet where your RT needs to be naively charitable and forgiving to a fault.
The funny thing is - everybody kept telling Owlcat since the beta that Yrliet's bullshit behaviour in Act 3 won't fly. Owlcat didn't listen and now they are shocked that nobody likes her. What is wrong with Russians?
A usual case of the writer being up their own ass most likely.
>Owlcat didn't listen and now they are shocked that nobody likes her.
Where did Owlcat comment on that?
I think Starrok was whining about it on discord.
>and now they are shocked that nobody likes her
Are they? Maybe that's what they wanted.
I like her and she's not the only one to betray you anyhow
She certainly is the only companion to actively betray you, your weird incoming cope about how companion X Y and Z totally betray you (though they literally don't, and nothing any other companion does comes even close to what Yrliet does anyhow) notwithstanding.
Nta but that's not active betrayal. It's the same stupidity and passive unintended fricking you over as what Heinrix does in forcing you to keep Scalander and similar levels of lying as Argenta or lying/likely endangerment of the ship as Abelard (mutiny) or Idira (searching for Theodora voice in the warp). It stands out because of how bad the outcome is but again Heinrix has about the same level of culpability (and is why everything would happen the same without Yrliet there).
Yrliet doesn't need to be a Corsair, neither does Marazhai. Their current set ups are fine as is, it's the execution that poorly done in Yrliet's case.
We've had this fricking discussion every fricking thread and you get blown the frick out every time.
>We've had this fricking discussion every fricking thread and you get blown the frick out every time.
That isn't me, I don't think Yrliet should be turned into a corsair. Me saying that the corsair would make more sense =/= I want Yrliet to be deleted and re-written, I just want a corsair companion because I think he/she would have been a much much better fit for RT thematically and a perfect chance to showcase Eldar corsairs as they are almost never shown in vidya, apart from appearing in Battlefleet Gothic.
A Corsair would just ultimately be a mix of Jae and Yrliet in what she would be like. Even down to the classes.
The waifugays are stuck in their stages of grief, leave them be.
>space elves
There are fricking 2 of them already, why would Owlcat add more in the first 2 DLCs?
Maybe you're going to get a better spess elf waifu in the next 40k cRPG
Did you read the post at all?
It's not about waifuhomosexualry I'd happy if it was a guy, romance shit is optional. And I asked what people think about it's probability/design putting "muh space elves" aside
> why would Owlcat add more in the first 2 DLCs?
Second season pass. We already have first two revealed (Death Cult assassin and Arbites)
I was hoping they add in a unique spin on it with either custom origin talents or a new archetype
>It's not about waifuhomosexualry
>wants to add another Eldar companion
M8, just stop. Eldar are lame and exists for two reasons to attract coomers and to show how moronic they are.
For any other you will need Ork (cause they are fun) or Tau (because unlike other xeno they can actually stand on their own against Imperium's mindset).
>It's not about waifuhomosexualry
It isn't, I've said I would be happy either way if it's a male or female and mentioned the romance as optional and how I'd like it to look IF they did it.
Why are you so obsessed with waifuhomosexualry and try to force it into the discussion?
>Eldar are lame and exists for two reasons to attract coomers and to show how moronic they are.
Just seetheposting I see
Is anyone using Argenta with bolters? She just seems so effective with a sniper rifle I simply can't justify a bolter built with her. Maybe if I were using Yrliet and thus had contention for sniper rifles I could see it, but I'm not.
Rapid fire+unfaltering fire plus boost from my officer made her good even with early shitty bolters and she had flamer/shiotgun back-up. The amulet that makes single shots from bolter always hit made it even easier later on
I've heard this amulet mentioned a few times but I either missed it or haven't reached it yet.
It's act 2. Blessed Bolter Casing.
Pretty sure it's one of the first systems you can visit. You pick it up as cargo if you send scouts on a planet
there's an item at the start of act 2 that makes it impossible for her to miss single shots with a bolter, that alone makes her an excellent sniper
however heavy bolter burst firing with arch militant skills is the GOAT
Can your sniper argenta deal 14000 damage with one burst and burst 4 times per turn?
Why are bg3 trannies in our thread?
There is a 90% overlap between BG3 and Owlcat players.
The curse of being Turn Based. Turn Based tends to lure troons. If Rogue Trader was RTwP, only chads would be present to discuss it, even more so because it's 40k.
your thoughts?
I prefer melee with Maranzai
You forgot Move Move Move into wildfire + AM ulti free burst
Where is wildfire?
under Argenta's smug ass portrait
>>>/vg/
>imperial world humanities finest bonus doesn't stack with the training
>all expert weapon perks do not work
>companions alignment are broken they all start with no alignment past idira
>a hard lock in act 3 arena
>another hard lock in act 4 in the forest with the other RT
>character speak of events that did not happen or with dead characters
>"Power armor" is trash and Arbiter armor with max coercion gives you more armor than everything else in the game
It overall feels like a step back, even from Kingmaker with DLC to be honest.
Kingmaker without DLC is still Owlcat's best game.
the craziest thing is prior to the "patches" the game did NOT have these bugs
>"Power armor" is trash
It looks the coolest though. Which is the most important part.
it does and with the gas mask you find you look like a krieg general sadly the arbiter armor with max coercion as i said shits on power armor
"Power armor
85 damage reduction
10 deflection
0.75 dodge
+20 strength"
"Arbiter armor
85 damage reduction
5 deflection
0.75 dodge
increased deflex per coercion skill
increased damage to criminals"
Arbiter armor can get easily over 20 deflection while "power armor" stays at a crappy 10,so unless you really really want that extra 2 dmg for melee weapons power armor is a waste of a perk and time
This is fine. I'll live with a mere 10 deflection for the sake of looking cooler.
Also it's not the case of power armor being bad, it's the case of one specific armor being waaaay too good. And it probably deserves a nerf.
Honestly the issue with power armor is that it's so rare.
I get it's a rare form of armor but it's really shitty you can only get it at the very end of the game.
Guys my first Aeldari Shadowhunter encounter keeps cheating against me. The one time I actually managed to defeat both ships their torpedos kept working and defeated me regardless. It isn't fair.
How exactly do enemies sometimes get 30+ exploit stacks? I dont have any talent that doubles stacks or similar
Does anyone know this? Or is it just bugged interaction nr 53494831
El buggo
Damn im guessing it's continuous analysis that causes it?
I don't know man, I sure would like to
Lots of people complaining about the elf romance, I like it a lot. Just got out of act 3.
Are the act 4+ shit and ending slides still bugged?
Because from what I've seen it has a nice payoff at the end, but as of late those scenes won't trigger. Imo that's the real romance aspect of it, the earlier stuff was breaking down barriers
I think so, I've heard people complaining about getting the "she stays with you 50 years and then leaves" neutral ending no matter what. Not just Yrliet, some other companions too
How do you unlock t4 and t5 colony projects? I just got out of Commorack and I though they'd available right away like expanded traders inventories.
feels like iconoclast choices and ending really don't fit the W40K setting, like "omg, we haz democracy & tolerance in the fringe border of the galaxy" the frick...
If it makes you happier the iconoclast ending correctly portrays the Imperium as horde of space Black folk that will stop at nothing to drag you back to the bottom of the crab bucket for the crime of trying to improve things.
Reminder iconoclast is only nice by 40k standards, your great act of benevolence at your accession is giving people literally "food for a day and a power cell".
>another anon who doesn't know what Iconoclast is
Amazing how many morons and brainlets this game has caused to come crawling out of the ol' Ganker woodwork lmfao. Really though, they just keep coming.
What's the best class/build thematically for a heretic run?
Fortress World Soldier/AM seguing into unsanctioned telepath/pyro/sanctic with Edge of the Irrevocable and the psyker plate.
Hell no, Severan Dominate are buttholes. Duke Severus was malding about being outdone by Drusus and his descendant made deals with the Deldar to let them raid his worlds in exchange for help. The Dominate is every bit as bad as the Imperium, they're just an example of non chaos traitor guard.
Guessing some kind of melee psyker because of the sword.
Maybe a warrior/assassin, dipping into telepathy when possible for psychic shriek.
hmmmmm
isn't iconoclast basically just LARPing as the
Severan Dominate?
in the game file it's apparently named "hope"
>hope
>the emotion that most empowers Tzeentch
Checks out.
and "hope" is the domain of tzeench
What isn't the domain of tzeench at this point
Rage, despair, and desire. Tzeentch is hope, ambition, and the search for knowledge and understanding.
>What isn't the domain of tzeench at this point
Pleasure
Passion
Excess
Hedonism
Decadence
Pain
Perfection
War
Hatred
Wrath
Rage
Murder
Blood
Strength
Courage
Martial Honour
Disease
Decay
Despair
Destruction
Death
Rebirth
Enthropy
Apathy
Antipathy
They really missed it big time not having Argenta's questline be more about her thing with orphans and little kids.
It should have been the central focus of her questline.
yeah, the thign that really kills her about pewing Theodora was that she had to kill Mort too, and he had a son in the underdecks.
If Mort had a chance to stack up versatility everything might've happened very differently.
We'd be wondering what that Defiler-sized hole in the wall was. Remember that Mort was packign a frickign melta.
They kinda bring it up again. Since the reason she feels so strongly for the orphans is because the son of the Arch-Militant she killed in the intro is one of them. And she feels guilty that she reflexively killed a good honourable man so she does what she can to look after his son.
Yeah but ultimately it wasn't really that explored.
Also her thing for orphans is definitely more about the fact she herself is one.
Honestly that's something I hardly ever see people explore about progena. People like stormtroopers, commissars, battle sisters, etc. are all orphans whose parents died in honorable Imperial service. Few of them talk about that, though that's probably explained by how very few BL books put them together and how most of the time they're too busy fighting to survive. Kind of wonder if there might be a commissar otu there who sees the boys in his platoon as his little lads and he WILL take care of them even if their officer is some idiot noble.
With how bleak the setting is, that sort of issues are likely beat out of them.
But Argenta seems to have a lot of hang ups. Her predilection for orphans, that one warp event where you can find her screaming while clutching the memento of her parents.
If she had a romance her story would be perfect for raising a big family with the RT.
god dammit, so many fricking bugs. I never got to see that event.
It's a random text blurb you get on a yellow warp route.
Yeah what the other anon said. I'm sure you probably got it but didn't notice.
The Gaunt's Ghost books kinda had that. Where he was largely raised by officers and then when himself became a colonel-commissar he became something of a father figure to a lot of the younger soldiers in his regiment, while having to protect them from the apathetic generals and lord-generals they served under.
if you think about it, her portrait literally spoils her questline
you just couldn't tell because you lacked context
You know i never noticed that. I wouldnt really call it a spoiler, but it is a cool detail.
>breathing is chaotic
Wow now I truly see
Thats why Roger Gotcha was able to pounch word bearers to death while floating in space without a helmet.
No oxygen=no heresy
LA CREATURA DEL CRUARACH
How do you make melee build viable in the late game?
What are you having problems with?
Enemies health got inflated too fast for melee characters to deal enough damage. Attack deal like 40 damage at max while enemies got like 150 to 250 health
Get multiple attacks from arch-militant / dual wielding or use the damage buffs and weakpoints from assassin
Charge enemies for 300 damage then slap them 3-4 times
Go assassin and warrior, get killing edge
Done
>abuse the bugged skill
why add Jeans Stealers and a cultist and then only make it a small fight instead of a real side quest?
because you DO NOT want a gene steal cult you don't talk to them you don't negotiate with them you fricking kill them,even chaos cultist know GSC got to die first and foremost and then the rest
you can say that about the Eldar too, it's what I did anyway
>you can say that about the Eldar too
No you can't, eldar are living and thinking beings
Genestealer cults are basically just pseudo-sentient extensions of an all consuming eldritch being
>eldar are living and thinking beings
I am mainly impressed by how this entire game has made me loathe elfdar of all flavors with the possible exception of Nocturne, and only because he saved me. Literally every single one of them deserves to die.
The harlequins in fishy's act 4 quest were fine too
Point taken, they had every reason to kill Cassia and they allowed her to do her thing.
They're megac**ts I agree (technically varies on a craftworld by craftworld basis)
I'm killing a ton of them this time around
It's kind of hillarious if you thing about that they are basically written as "if you don't simp to us we will suicide on you and you will feel bad for killing us "pity-bait
>Just seetheposting I see
Just reciting Eldar lore from early editions to the current one
Nocturne is a good lad. You have to be an iconochad to truly understand the appeal
Seriously jokes that was my favorite reactivity moment in the game. Just leaving a solitaire speechless.
Xenos are Xenos
kill'em all
simple as
Eldar can be convinced to frick off.
Genestealears will bend you over and rape your ass on sight.
Yep, the moment one of my colonies reported genestealers activity I followed Ulfar advice.
Carpet bombing with no survivors.
>Yep, the moment one of my colonies reported genestealers activity
wait, what the frick?
colonies can have genestealer activity???
I only got Eldar ghosts and Necrons
Yeah, I don't remember what colony was but they say one citiy reported genos activity.
So I purged the entire city from orbit.
it's our capital city and the project gene mercy outright states it
Thinking about it. It must have taken a lot of work to do the genestealer quest and then not utilize the assets again after that. Unless the models will be used for the upcoming dlcs of course
You know fellas, I'd really appreciate if Owlcat figured out how to stop their games from running like shit while looking like I'm running an upscaled PS2 game. I was getting 3 FPS in a battle the last time I played. THREE. Are they really leaving Unity like they implied? What horrors will they unleash upon us in a new engine? Good game though Pasqal and Abelard those are my homies they gang on god on my momma fr no cap bruh
I think they're moving to Unreal.
If Colony Ship is anything to go by, it's vastly superior engine for an RPG.
I really hope so. I don't care about the graphics man I just want to be able to play without entering an area that mysteriously runs at 3fps or wondering if half the talents or companions actually work like they're supposed to.
I was thinking about romancing Yrliet on Icono run. I have a question: What is the best romance path/ending for her: To save the Eldar people and cooporate with them or to turn her against the Farseers/Eldar making her see they're moronic?
>or to turn her against the Farseers/Eldar making her see they're moronic
Would doing that prevent her soulstone from getting destroyed?
Always be her simp and you're golden.
Important, never mention lewds.
I think her ending slides and ch4 final romance scenes are bugged now
There is no reason to keep her around.
>Emperor protects, purge her with prejudice
>Iconoclast, it's always aeldary first so frick you
>Chaos, treason
I think I'm killing Yrliet in chapter 4 this time. My last run was my 'see the most content' run, this'll be my 'canon' one
I intend to play as a dogmatic/jaded imperial for my first, complete, blind run and executeor tell to frick off anyone that might cause an inconvenience. Until then I'm waiting for the game to get patched.
Putting up with the bullshit of some characters is so lore unfriendly that the rewards of it should be treated like optional/secret content.
After that I might go for the completionist/Owlcat Secret Best Ending (TM) run
Would you like a Dark Crusade CRPG?
How would the game look if it had 1 more year of development?
Better maybe
it would be well-crafted soulless owlslop instead of broken unfinished soulless owlslop
New and exciting bugs
How are Owlcat other games? Do they worth playing?
Kingmaker is the best written one by far, almost feels like a fluke
WotR is... fine. But it has the Mythic path power fantasy.
But they're pathfinder games so the gameplay sucks.
They're both worse than this game, as buggy and unfinished as it may be, but yes
Better writing, way worse combat.
Yrliet is replaced by an Aspect Warrior with a complete rewrite. The rewrite isn't important, but what Aspect should she be?
>Dire Avenger
>Howling Banshee
>Fire Dragon
Warp Spider
Howling Banshee
Utter bawd
>The Lord Captain replaced the picture of himself with a picture of him and the xenos standing together
>The Lord Captain is asking mistress Heydari to commisison xeno gifts from the xenos she trades with to give to her
>The Lord Captain always asks her for advice on colony matters
>The Lord Captain sits with her in sielence for hours every other day
Why are youngsters like this? It's all so tiresome.
Stay mad round ear
>The Lord Captain replaced the picture of himself with a picture of him and the xenos standing together
I never replaced the picture of Theodora. I wonder if this does anything.
I remember Yrliet commenting on how "humans are focused on worshiping themselves" upon seeing it. Idk if she says the same for Theodora
She did in my save, but that could have been a bug or an oversight by Owlcat.
She did when she entered my room. And then she saw the craftworld bit.
doing it with Cassia is a dangerous affair
>8 hours
>Yrliet agrees to start touching RT
>She's a domestic abuser
Abelard’s reaction to RT x Yrliet is like a parent trying to be understanding about their child announcing they’re a furry but clearly uncomfortable
ABELARD!
Do the thug shaker.
does everyone around your quarters get horny when you do the deed with Cassia
No, but they are filled with rightful awe at your magnificence and proficiency
I also use my color aids to counter hers so it won't leave the room
I dunno man, the scenes with Cassia just do something for me
I thought that picture was meant to symbolise Abelard whenever RT and Yrliet goes meditating
I know anon, I know
t.
Commissar, does Amberley knows about this?
she is fine with him banging chicks on the side
She isn't. I mean, she won't do anything about it, but she's clearly seething.
"Cain, i have another Tomb World for you to explorer. Why dont you ask your fish to help you navigate your way through it?"
>not a single good looking gear for the entire game
ffs
behead those who insult the Emperor
I honestly like the look of the Severan Dominate.
it's just space Romans
I'm just a sucker for the techno-Roman/Spartan aesthetic.
https://beta.character.ai/chat2?char=uX635SYP5YLjkDK5IBJroRnc2iaiIYQ691kwJr7rRy4&
What do?
kill him on the spot, then kill Theodora
Every character has one except for Yrliet and Ulfar it seems
I love the sisters of battle like you Black folk wouldn't believe
goofy af faction
their artillery plays organ music when it's time to fire
I fricking love it
sexers of bsex
I always just assumed sisters were frustrated femcels
they all get their Big E body pillow upon successful induction
Imagine a DLC where you play as a RT's companion, like Varnhold but longer.
no please don't
Varnhold sucked
How would the game simulate Yrliet's autism if she was a playable character?
Every quest you complete, somehow leads to bad outcomes. Complete at no fault of yourself of course
knowing Owlkek, we will definitely get those sorts of campaigns as future DLC
post yfw Inevitable Excess but in RT
>Inevitable Excess
>Horus about to kill the Emperor
>"Abelard, crush his wiener."
>"Brace yourself, Abelard..."
>Horus is killed, Emperor is saved
IE in RT would be more like the clowns whisking you away and saying the universe will collapse unless you kill these 5 clones of Horus
cringe shounenspic
Silence, moetroony
Kino shounenchad.
>companion
You mean something like Leliana's song?
It certainly would be more tolerable than a side story with NPCs no one cares about, but still, hard pass
Cassia is absolutely precious
>parting forehead kiss
I don't get it.
It's supposed to be the year 40000 yet humans still act and dress as if they were in medieval times with high tech gear
The year 2024 looks more advanced outside of spaceship shit but don't get me started on Motive Force etc. ooga booga nonsense
are you a tertiary, Anon
it's a long story why things are the way they are
it's a post-apocalypse civilization that got hit by another apocalypse that is in the 3rd apocalypse
40k years of lead poisoning and assorted industrial disasters brought everyone down to 60IQ.
humanity is regressing both in terms of technology and mentality
kind of the point of the setting, it's all been downhill since the 25th millennium
the new patch...
the new Seize the Initiative bug...
fix it.....
10 + 2 x 3 = 70? Is there a single thing that works as intended in this game
No patch today?
Sex with Yrliet. Both spiritually and physically
>gaunt and unfeminine
How do you decrypt the data banks in act 2 after you meet Nomos?
You just use the cogitator on the bridge.
I still dont get if kunrad and theodora were part of the same heretic cell
Theodora wasnt part of a cult. She was just becoming more and more radical, because of a combination of her own ambitions and pressure from the Lord Inquisitor. It could be argued whether she was even a heretic or just very radical. I personally hold to heretic but not actively against the Empire
>Idira starts talking to someone who isn't in the current party
I had Abelard talk to Ulfar here. In chapter 2.
It's the voice in her head.
"The walls are speaking. They are calling me a mon-keigh?"
Is Assassin viable for a ranged operative?
No sorry the game closes if you pick it
Quite the jest but I wouldn't be surprised if it was an actual thing.
>Every third talent is bugged
>Bugged NPCs
>Bugged animations
>Bugged quests
>Bugged flags
>Idira's ending has her going out on lesbian adventures with Jae
wtf it any moment its say they even have any kind of friendship
The best one is where she learns to get along with Argenta and becomes pious