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nothing good can come of xenos
but i want to frick her/it
why did you give yourself the biggest homosexual portrait i have ever seen, there is no way you are interested in women anon.
I just recently started the game, I'm already iffy on keeping an unsantioned psyker around no fricking way am I letting xenos onto my ship, especially not eldar
Why would you ruin the game by choosing that portrait?? Dumb Black person.
I'll miss those threads when they're gone
mood
Why would anyone want boring eldar on your ship when you have these absolute pieces of work, post more
If not for the bugs it would be my favorite game of this year.
It’s pretty damn good.
Heh this game's dope. I like how every there's always a "purge the heretic" dialogue option.
I must've got pretty lucky because I've not encountered that many bugs.
They're technically supposed to be far more intelligent than humans on average, like the average Aeldari has the intellect of a human genius and a clinically moronic one is like the average human. The real danger is that they see through all the follies of the imperium and could explain to you how moronic some of its policies are. This is bad for the imperium because it is built on ignorance, it literally needs to keep people ignorant of the grimdark horrors of the galaxy to prevent planetary mass suicides and to maintain its huge domain it needs countless unquestioning do-as-your-told peons.
>The real danger is that they see through all the follies of the imperium and could explain to you how moronic some of its policies are.
No they can't. Trying to get an Eldar to explain anything to a human is impossible even when it's legitimately in their interest to be honest.
>Gabriel there's a demon in the orb don't smash it!
That's not always true. It just has to the smartest humans they're talking to, not some barely literate space marine meathead . The Mechanicus can understand them for example
>Mechanicus
>Smart
Are you gonna argue with me or make noises?
Google the Dark Bargain mon keighs. The mechanicus literally strikes a deal with the dark eldar for special tech to keep the Golden Throne operational. That clearly demonstrates some mutual intelligibility. Smd
That same dark elder later escapes on Terra and makes horrible flesh abominations while trying to get relatively close to the Emperor so he can feed on the resonance of the greatest torture device ever conceived.
Bullshit.
What happens if you attack the Fellowship of the Void ship in chapter 1?
they're one of the five merchants
i haven't found them in ch2 yet
they're in the bar on footfall
Pasqal, track that anon's IP, fill his cogitator with AI generated CP and notify the local Adeptus Arbites station.
can you have sex with the battle sisters?
Remember to befriend your local xenos, excellent officers such as Abelard will appreciate your efforts.
>Marazhai Aezyrraesh, also known as the Death of the Tempest, spent several years with the Rogue Trader, filling the entire crew with terror. However, with time, his restless and ambitious nature got the better of him. Having grown weary of the company of mon-keigh, the Drukhari left the ship."
>"Years later, Marazhai's name resounded through the Expanse once more. His gang had intercepted Astartia Werserian's ship. Her head was delivered to Abelard with a note informing him that it was "a gift from an old acquaintance in remembrance of a glorious past." Abelard's grief sent him on a six-year-long hunt for the despicable xenos, which, sadly, was unsuccessful."
I love how Deldar LARP as the hardest frickers out there but are still scared shitless of Chaos and Necrons
Being fearful of chaos and necrons is common sense.
Rising above the fear and facing them is heroic.
They are slaves to their impulses, fear the greatest one among them.
Wish i knew what triggered his clown ending
That one seems like it will be pretty specific since it requires Yrliet to come along as well.
>I can fix him!
>mfw i can't fix him
That's why you drill through jimmi's autism, it's more rewarding and he has like three different happy ends, maybe four.
He can fix you, though.
Some whispered of a special, dark, and wicked bond between the Rogue Trader and Marazhai... of the secret dockings of xenos ships with the von Valancius flagship, of bloody nights full of screaming victims and delirious laughter shared between maniacs, of macabre traces of the orgies the lovers left behind."
Though he left, Marazhai never could fully part with the Rogue Trader, as their unbreakable bond went beyond simple passions. The alien was seen many times in realspace at the Lord Captain's side, who made the indomitable xenos recognise {mf|him|her} as an equal. Bloody orgies aboard the dynasty's flagship spawned bloodcurdling legends. There were also whispers of mysterious attacks on von Valancius's enemies by Aezyrraesh's subordinates."
now you know how camtards feel
They get off to being dumped
I'm not sure I do know, because camtards still continue to act like their waifu loves them and is best girl so it's impossible to tell if they're dissapointed they can't fix her or just ecstatic that they get to fictionally bang an evil woman without causing damage to themselves IRL.
I am happy camellia is unfixable
It's part of what makes her romance great
>implying
CamCHADS love her for being an unrepentant killer.
Told ya they got off to it
loregays tell me
what are the downsides of bringing the space elf onboard my ship
you have a space elf on your ship
People see them the same way they would furries if furries were also rabid killers
Peak degenarate
She doesn't really see you as a person, more like an animal, at best a moron. So she could betray you and still be a good person in her mind.
The crew would be very angry and it could lead to you getting hunted down by the inquisition.
OTher than that, not much. The brand of Eldar in the game is the least shitty kind, which is admittedly a low bar.
You are fine so long as you don't try to screw them over.
is it really that much worse than an unsanctioned psyker?
No, unsanctioned Psykers are much, much worse since they are a walking time bomb that could potentially destroy your entire ship at any time if things get bad enough. Actually Yrliet is the one taking the biggest risk traveling with you, there's a reason the Eldar don't travel through the Warp if they can avoid it.
With a psyker, nobody below you wants to ask questions.
With a Xenos, nobody can claim " I didn't notice what he was up to Inquisitor!"
No, like everyone else said, unsactioned psykers are dangerous because:
A) It is a crime to harbor them
B) They are unstable. Even if they are absolutely loyal and 100% trustworthy, all it takes is one mishap for them to get possessed or turned into an edlritch horror.
At least the Eldar is a predictable, rational danger that you can sort of come to terms with.
There's nothing inherently bad about it, but it will make a lot of people seethe since you're bringing the equivalent of a ex-Mossad agent on your ship, who might or might not be still loyal to her former masters.
The one that is actually in-game but handwaves as >I'll just meditate more mon'kegh
Hauling a slaneesh delicacy through the warp in the thin plasticfoil protection called Gellar Field is generally not a healthy plan
Consorting with xenos is a big no no.
There's a non zero chance that it's part of an Eldar plot and you and your whole dynasty will be deleted because it's part of an elaborate chain of events spanning a couple millennia so some Eldar chick 5 sectors away can get preggo later on.
>Rogue Trader brings a Ranger on board
>It's actually a plot from a Farseer several sectors away
>The Ranger then slowly seduces the Rogue Trader, until they beget an heir
>The new Half-Eldsr heir to the dynasty is far more lenient and willing to turn a blind eye to Eldar activities but is otherwise just as effectice as any other Rogue Trader
>All according to keikaku
Every space elf is a potential psyker and they are stronger than humans in every aspect and treat humans with contempt at best.
>humans in every aspect
>space marines
>assassins
>living saints
>ect ect
Those are barely human.
So are blacks but we still count them
Ah yes, when someone says human they obviously refer to the 0.001% of the human population that is within a subgroup of heavily mutated and modified humans.
Obviously he wasn't referring to the 99% of standard humans that make up the majority of humanity.
You are so intellectually dishonest anon.
commissar yarrick could rape a space elf
You are forgetting eldar ONLY exist to be a jobber faction.
Wrong, nobody jobs harder than the Imperial Guard
You must not read many of the books anon.
Comissar Yarrick had so many fricking upgrades he was almost a cogboy, and he is also a lore hero so the universe bends itself to give him plot armor.
The average Eldar can kill the average human with a simple thought. That is the point that was being made, stop being such a fricking autist.
>The average Eldar can kill the average human with a simple thought.
can they? i imagine they would job to a guy with a sword like they are made to do.
On paper, yes. They would
But when the plot demands it, even a Chaos Space Marine gets killed by a guy with a sword.
>stronger than humans in every aspect
>keep jobbing against everyone who's not a peasant with pitchforks
eldarbros, I don't feel so good
Eldar are second only to Daemons in 40K lore for "we exist to lose so the thing we lost against looks cool".
Hive World is a pretty shit world, its bonuses are garbage and way too situational.
>Hive World is a pretty shit world, its bonuses are garbage and way too situational.
What would you recommend for Commissar/Officer world-wise then? Voidborn loses on stnregth, and everything else but Imperial World has a fellowship penalty.
Imperial World is the best for Officer, yeah.
Hive world is amazing just for Comradery, replacing every will resist check with the power of friendship, but it also gets me free resolve, MP and weapon skill.
Overall i doubt there's a better homeworld for a melee officer.
One thing to consider with imperial world is it lets you start with enough strength to use heavy armor
Space elves are extremely untrustworthy and racist.
If a space elf wants to be your friend it's so it can manipulate you into doing things for it and then betray you when you are no longer useful.
Unless is an Incubus no way gay
Like driving with a israelite in the middle of Berlin during 1944.
There is a literal branch of the inquisition dedicated to exterminate xenos and their sympathizers.
So what are the options for Khorne-flavored heresy? Melee is excellent so far, but given everything happening in Act 1 so far and encounters I feel this is a Tzeentch game first and foremost
Tzeentch is most closely related to the "main" quest, but there's been quite some Nurgle and Slaanesh stuff on the side too. I don't think I've seen any Khorne yet, apart from the Bloodletter that Idira accidently summoned and who oneshot my party.
why the frick is burning permanent?
Assuming no bugs it's permanent until it's snuffed out by an effect or roll as in there's no maximum duration if you just flub rolls forever.
If you're alive then there's still more of you to burn.
Fish patch WHEN?
Already patched (by many)
silence, worm
This is moronic and must be fake. I'm not even interested in the fish. but there is no way she's had lovers when basically no one's been able to get close to her
It is fake you can edit the .json files in this game super easily, one guy keeps reposting it since he wants to trigger the cuck rage posters.
>can't respec your first archetype into a new one
i fricking hate this so much.
Will some of my companions betray me if I become a heretic?
I wish the AIjeets spamming the last thread with their trash could at least learn to put 'painterly' and 'brush strokes' into their prompts
the least you could do is try to match the vanilla artstyle instead of just mass-produced photorealistic coomerslop
AI can be amazing or it can be terrible. Just learn how to use it and generate your own portraits so it can match the image you have for your character in your head.
can you post the bottom girl full size?
Does anything happen if you completely loot Eurac V?
Which model is that? I don't have dall-e access at the moment, just voldy.
It's Midjourney.
Cassia's station? She doesn't care, just more PF for you.
Her family didn't care either in beta, dunno yet if that is still the case.
PF? I picked get tech components. Dunno if I need to reload or not.
I always went with looting it to last screw.
Anything nice for the ship? I thought it was just extra scrap
How do you make a dual wielding melee/pistol guy work? Obviously go arch-militant, but do you start as warrior or soldier?
Dual wielding isn't really worth it since there's only a single talent that supports it, as far as I'm aware.
>choose officer thinking i would go pistol sword
>officer fricking sucks and fish is one anyway
>can't respec it
already beat chapter one and have that itch to restart, but if i do i know i will never beat the game
You know that you can respec at the fat guy
can't change the first class you pick
bruh the game isn't that hard, relax virgin.
No one said anything about the game being hard you moron you said that Officer sucks and it doesnt
Toybox, just add a new class and remove the old
>officer fricking sucks
you dont know how to play one then they are busted and you shouldnt be picking up anything officer related on the fish you moron
What the frick? Officer is universally agreed on right now to be the best class in the fricking game. Also you shouldn't bother using Officer talents as Cassia her unique talents are better so Officer is truly the best choice for the RT unless you are for some god forsaken reason wanting to roll with Jae in your party.
officer doesn't suck because it's bad officer sucks because it's so boring
I picked crime lord officer just for free blaster turns from the sister because I like it when she says shit like "die heretic" and whatnot.
I’m loving officer, give him a sniper rifle and you get two attacks. One for you, one for your best character.
Soldier can bank a frick ton of bonus action points with the hunker down ability which'd help with dual wielding.
Warrior.
Take flame pistol, they aoe for 1 ap.
Charge, whack with a sword then shoot.
Sometimes I use Lidless Stare and it doesn't hit a single damn thing in the aoe, it just completely whiffs. Fricking annoying.
i don't know what triggers that, maybe it's if you're behind full cover?
I think it is caused by the height bug, since it only seem to happen when I am on higher ground than the targets
I can't fricking decide between Commissar and Noble. Noble seems superior but Commissars were my favourite units in Dawn of War and their outfits are way better. On the other hand, it seems like melee reigns supreme on the harder difficulties from what people are saying so maybe I should go a sniper Noble officer while I'm still only playing on normal.
Psyker
I was originally gonna go telepathy Psyker because I'm a CCgay who loves enchantment/illusion wizards in DnD games but they seem too hard to build and it seems like everyone is doing tanky pyromancy Psykers on hard so I figured I might as well save Psyker for when I do my second playthrough.
i'm doing psyker/officer
sanctic is a pretty good fit
noble isn't that useful after the first couple levels. it does have a few nice moments where you flex on the plebs but you're already a rogue trader so
go commissar
i went psyker
Noble is indeed better, but the difference is genuinely negligible. Origin in general is first and foremost for flavor.
Noble is definitely better ranged. Comissar's best thing is the feat that boosts your entire party resolve just by being in melee.
Commissar Rogue Trader is the most blatant conflict of interest conceivable.
A Commissar is literally a political officer, a direct servant of the Imperial government. You wouldn't make a man go through Schola training to give all of himself to the state and then tell him to go out and use his own personal initiative to bend the rules sometimes and run a private enterprise. You would pick someone who HASN'T been indoctrinated for that.
Isn't psyker the same in the end? A sanctioned one has been fully indoctrinated.
yes, he is an idiot.
>and then tell him to go out and use his own personal initiative to bend the rules sometimes and run a private enterprise
That's not how it works.
Then I don't know why they would be called "Rogue" Traders. Everything I heard about them makes them sound like privateers.
They are more like viceroys, even the warrant of trade is similar.
You still wouldn't send a political officer to work as a viceroy. You would send a political officer to make sure the viceroy doesn't start a revolution, but not to run the colony himself.
You sent nobles, which by all accounts held political power.
And then you sent the army to prevent them from going fullmoron.
Literally the rt and the inquisition, Heinrix is there to investigate if Theodora was a heretic.
Which she was. Thankfully Argenta solved that issue.
Dude just read a fricking wiki article on Rogue Traders, they are politicians, diplomats, traders and military commanders all rolled into one. They don't fulfill just one function, but a whole range of them. Some of the most famous ones literally did nothing else but wage wars.
Commissars are not part of the "army" or in this context the Imperial Guard/Imperial Navy. They answer to the Adminstratum directly. They're bureaucrats with guns, swords and slogans, that's what is meant by political officer. Not someone with political power, someone who upholds central authority.
It's ridiculous how you people are trying to tell me that I don't get rogue traders while you guys don't understand what a commissar is.
no way a video game brings out a bunch of youtube lore video secondaries, who would have guessed.
Even a fricking Inquisitor can become a Rogue Trader. This is my last reply to you, stop assuming dumb shit about the lore.
Inquisitors are also allowed far more independence than commissars.
There's nothing to "allow", a Rogue Trader stands far above almost anyone. Who's gonna stop an RT from bringing a commissar into his fold?
>Who's gonna stop an RT from bringing a commissar into his fold?
Nothing besides the commissar himself if he has explicit orders from the Commissariat, and even then he would be part of the RT retinue, not get a writ himself.
Don't try to pretend that Rogue Traders have authority over the Commissariat.
>and even then he would be part of the RT retinue, not get a writ himself.
that was probably originally the plan before Theodora and the psyker dude got themselves killed
Which brings around to the point that you shouldn't put the game's plot into a situation which doesn't make sense through your choice of background. Such as picking anything besides noble.
>Don't try to pretend that Rogue Traders have authority over the Commissariat.
But they have. Again, read a fricking wiki entry or something. Rogue Traders have the right to requisition whatever they fricking want, including political and military personal.
How about you read the fricking wiki about the Commissariat you Black person? The Rogue Trader's being allowed to requisition anything doesn't mean that they can overrule every single governing agency, like the Administratum or the Inquisition, in the Imperium. You're not going to see a Rogue Trader get in the way of an exterminatus and tell them to stop, or prevent the execution of a traitor general by a commissar. They are not the highest authority of the Imperium and you need to get a fricking grip.
Rogue Traders can have a lot of pull with influential people so why would taking a single commissar be out of their reach?
Because if the Commissariat tells the commissar to shoot the Rogue Trader he will just do that instead. Treason is treason.
Of course he will. Right after doming an Inquisitor and spitting on a Custodian.
Traitor inquisitors are not uncommon and any commissar who finds one has a duty to either neutralize them for loyal inquisitors, kill them or die trying.
How the hell would some bumfrick Commissar even know who’s a heretical inquisitor lmao.
Post minis, now.
>The Rogue Trader's being allowed to requisition anything doesn't mean that they can overrule every single governing agency, like the Administratum or the Inquisition, in the Imperium.
It kind of means that, yes.
>You're not going to see a Rogue Trader get in the way of an exterminatus and tell them to stop, or prevent the execution of a traitor general by a commissar.
That's not what's happening though.
>They are not the highest authority of the Imperium and you need to get a fricking grip.
They are one of the very highest, second only to the Inquisition, the High Lords of Terra, a Chapter Master or similar extremely high positions of authority. A commissar is literally nothing compared to them, it's like recruiting a random guardsman.
>A commissar is literally nothing compared to them, it's like recruiting a random guardsman.
That is besides the fricking point. Why are you shifting this discussion? This is not about a Rogue Trader having a Commissar as part of his retinue. That makes perfect sense. It DOESN'T make sense to give a Commissar a writ. It also doesn't make sense for a Rogue Trader to order a Commissar not to shoot him for treason. Commissars are loyal to the Commissariat and the Administratum first and the military or powerful individuals a distant second.
Literally anyone, ANYONE can receive a writ. Navis Imperialis, Astra Militarum, Adeptus Administratum (which includes commissars), Planetary Governors, even the fricking Inquisition. See https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Traders#Origins_2
It doesn't make sense to give a civil servant that's been indoctrinated in a Schola to follow and enforce regulations as well as doctrine to do something that requires personal initiative and independence.
It being possible doesn't mean it makes sense to actually do it. It's possible to give Nikita Kruschev a job as a corn farmer, that doesn't mean he'd do a good job of it.
Be honest anon, are you actually autistic? You have proof right there that a commissar can become a rogue trader and you simply go "nuh-uh".
Are you stupid?
Legitimately.
I have never contested that it is impossible for some idiot to decide to give a commissar a writ. I am saying that it shouldn't be done because commissars are unsuitable to the task compared to virtually any alternative.
There's been plenty of RTs "unsuitable to the task" in the lore, some of which turned out to be pretty great, others died quickly.
>It doesn't make sense
Doesn't matter. It's happening and has happened countless times before. You're wrong.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue_Traders#Origins_2
You're wrong, now shut the frick up.
>It also doesn't make sense for a Rogue Trader to order a Commissar not to shoot him for treason.
Imagine being this confident in a matter that anyone who knows anything about this topic can easily confirm as untrue.
least delusional commisar
>The Rogue Trader's being allowed to requisition anything doesn't mean that they can overrule every single governing agency, like the Administratum or the Inquisition, in the Imperium.
It means exactly that. The Inquisition is one of the very, very few exceptions and even then they can coerce them into cooperating, which has happened multiple times. Read that again, they are sometimes so powerful that they can *coerce the Inquisition*. A commissar is like recruiting some hive world prisoner in comparison.
Theoretically the Inquisition is the final arbiter of the law, and only Lord Inquisitors and perhaps High Lords of Terra can overrule the most privileged Rogue Traders. The idea of RTs carries the weight of religious writ, since everyone assumes the God-Emperor in his infinite wisdom selected the most worthy of humanity to occupy this critical special role. So reverent members of the imperium fear going against the will of a RT, because in doing so, they might be seen as heretics by going against the word of the Emperor.
RT's don't have complete freedom though, and if they violate their charter, they're seen as criminals. Some of the luckiest ones have extremely lenient charters or very good lawyers so they can get away with almost anything. Other's are less fortunate.
It's also not lost on the inquisition that the concept of rogue traders invites heresy, which is why they often position their agents very closely.
This is all true, but we're talking about a commissar here.
>They are not the highest authority of the Imperium
They literally are second if not equal to the Inquisition. The Rogue Trader Dynasties and the Warrants of Trade come from the frickin Emperor, or the high lords of terra, depending on the family.
The name "Rogue Trader" is a misnomer of their position. The actual equivalent branch would be "The Imperial IRS".
They can take/colonize/frick everyone they want since they make sure the Imperium stays funded and growing
Again with this blind individualist worship.
The Imperium has a government. The Master of the Administratum is one of the High Lord's of Terra. The Commissariat does not require a writ to do its duty. A traitor commits treason, he dies. Doesn't matter who.
>The Imperium has a government
That's the point!
It's a government. Rogue Traders have a position equal to a congressman, a commissar is the equivalent to an FBI agent or police officer.
Can they shoot the RT and say it's because he's a traitor? Sure.
That doesn't mean authority flows both ways. A congressman can tell them to frick off and they, by duty, have to frick off
It's amazing seeing someone unironically identify with the politics in fricking 40k
>Don't try to pretend that Rogue Traders have authority over the Commissariat.
They stand much, much higher than them, actually.
If a commissar turns out to be related by blood to a Rogue Trader dynasty then yes, he will become a Rogue Trader. Even by force, in some rare cases. There's a reason why becoming a Rogue Trader is sometimes used as "punishment", as a virtual exile for political opponents.
That’s not how any of this works. Did you miss Abelard’s intro story about how he got released from the Navy?
to be fair he implies he got released from the navy because he was butting heads with people and they wanted to see him gone
He also says that nobody dared to piss Theodora off since she could have pulled some strings to frick them over if they denied her “request”.
their job is to expand the imperium of man
It's a lot more complicated than that. I suggest you read up on it, because I doubt that a handful of posts can explain it in a satisfying manner.
Behead all tertiaries.
Loyal servants can be awarded rogue trader contracts with complex stipulations involved, usually when a big wig wants something done outside the imperium or their direct authority, sometimes to "reward" a loyal peon who they never wish to see again.
That means they get warrant of trades?
Aren't those signed by the emperor?
The emperor who's currently a corpse?
It’s cool, he has a lawyer for that.
Original warrants were given out by the emperor, some of them personally, which is enough to cause a brain aneurysm to a fanatic by simply looking at it, but most RT's are created via administratum edict due to the whole "ten thousand years of constant dying" bit that's been culling the original stock somewhat.
There's an "emperor signature pending" stamp they use for newer families
homie it's called an ORIGIN for a reason
did you also think all farmers with a scythe are destined to kill evil gods in Wrath of the Righteous?
You shouldn't pick that origin. Nobody should give a commissar a writ because a commissar isn't a person but an instrument of the state and its government. He doesn't have personhood. He doesn't have personal initiative. He doesn't have anything except a duty. And duty is greater than power.
sounds like made up propaganda to me
>You shouldn't pick that origin.
insert derisive reaction image here
>He doesn't have anything except a duty.
He's just some dude in the military. He retires, passes on his old duty to others, goes on to serve in greater ways. Although given this thread I don't think a commissar is smart enough to be a good RT.
Play on Daring, I'm looking at what "Normal" does and I think you'll be bored out of your mind if you're not a moron.
I guess I could try daring, I'm just not familiar with the mechanics yet is all. I didn't have any trouble with KM/WotR on Core though so I guess I can probably do Daring here.
I'm playing commissar officer->master tactician on daring. Lvl 22 now. In act 1 it was a struggle to get in melee range with no charge so I ended up using the long las to actually apply the commissar ability most of the time. And when you do get in melee you're much weaker than Abelard or Pascal. If I played an officer again I would probably pick noble.
Reminder that the full OST is out:
>wrath of the lost
Its been out since release
too bad it doesn't top the mechanicus one
I'd say it actually does, due to sheer range and length. Tracks like Scions of Lorgar can easily compete with Mechanicus' best, and that's some high praise.
there's nothing as groovy as children of the omnissiah
not a single memorable melody
I doubt you even listened to the whole thing and you're just being antagonistic for no reason right now.
I'm literally playing the game but feel free to prove me wrong.
>garbage youtube quality
Do yourself a favour and just download it
https://mega.nz/folder/3BBSjAQS#O-Nya3xbVvo6agGrR3cdAQ
Nice
For fricks sake i can't decide what to do with the shards.
Guess i'll give both of them to Heinrix
How much leeway does the conviction system give you? I want to blow up the planet at the end of act 1 even as Iconoclast but I don't know how important those 15 points are
Is it just me or is the audio mixing off? The footsteps of random people on the bridge are louder than almost everything else in the game.
im just so happy the game is good, bros
it isn't
it's okay, WoTR is MUCH better.
They're very different games, anon.
better for gays lmaoo
>game uses the term "humankind" instead of mankind outside of the title of the faction
>saying it isn't for gays
anon...
this is your retort to wotr being gayer than a furry conference?
lmao gay
I'm going to have to do multiple playthroughs before I can arrive at a conclusion there but so far I'm simply enjoying RT more
It really isn't, the companion cast is much worse in Wrath, on that alone Rogue Trader does laps around Wrath. Also Golarion is a garbage setting compared to 40K.
I disagree but curious how the numbers stack. Heard WotR has more players currently?
I'll need to do a lot of replays to come even close to my WotR playhours, but we'll see
I just wish WotR was built for turn based and didn’t have so much buffing. As it is I got to the first enemy fort and called it quits. Another Anon said it was the best part of the whole game.
spending 5 mins buffing before each encounter is sovl
Kek
Good to know, thanks
You can get a mod which allows you to assign which buffs you want to cast on whom pre-combat and the mod will do it all instantly for you at the click of a button. I still manually buff for smaller fights but for bigger ones where I want as many buffs as possible I find it mandatory.
i was really worried. but i'm glad too
Total Yrliet love.
Clowned.
"Marazhai Aezyrraesh, the exile from Commorragh and murderer of his own Kabal, did not remain in the Rogue Trader's retinue for long. Broken by his many losses and unable to cope with the bitterness of unfulfilled ambitions, the Drukhari found rapture in another role. People say he left the flagship of the von Valancius dynasty in the company of a mysterious and colourful xenos — the same one who took Yrliet Lanaevyss on the same day. The Imperium's chronicles know nothing of the fate of Marazhai. Only the Laughing God Cegorach knows that with the disappearance of the Asuryani and Drukhari, in the depths of the Webway two new Harlequin masques were born."
handholding at a beach with Cassia.
Underwater sex with Cassia
>returning the fish to the sea
pottery
Doesn't really sound like a 40k scene honestly.
There's a surprisingly romantic scene in Gaunt's Ghosts where Ibram Gaunt, a battle-hardened commissar, observes a garden of mechanical flowers together with an obvious love interest and is having a heartfelt moment of his most private thoughts with her.
The flower she gifts him also saves his life, but he has to leave her behind forever. Dan Abnett loves his star-crossed romances.
>people NEVER have moments of happiness in 40k
>every single world is under attack
>everyone lives in pods and eats corpse starch
>everything is shit all the time forever
>reddit filename
Yes, that's 40k. 40k isn't meant to make sense. It's a horrifying fever dream. Logic? You've come to the wrong setting.
so true, the setting is SATIRE
Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau is le epic
>old warhammer had this one bad thing in its lore so all of old warhammer is bad
Typical troony argument
Old Warhammer was not a parody, it was an amalgamation of stolen ideas from various scifi franchises and nerd culture of type mixed with the existing Warhammer Fantasy
Some elements in that old lore were silly and could have been parodies but the setting as a whole was never a parody
And that Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau you love posting to prove your point is literally a throwaway character that was mentioned as an aside in one book, he never had any relevance to the setting or its story. The only thing that makes him so notorious is how obvious his stolen name is but if you really wanted to talk about how early 40K has stolen from other franchises you should talk about how much it copied from Dune and Starship Troopers among others
That art is from an excellent dakka dakka thread but its fanart and its one guys take on the setting and hyperfocusing on the admittedly vast amount of misery especially for the lower classes. A rogue trader is immune from almost all of it
99.99% of the Imperium are in the lower classes.
OST got put up today, by the way:
Clash Of Convictions is my favorite so far.
Do I need awareness at all?
what's the play with these?
mostly just deciding what general sort of items you want out of the trouble
does choosing one lock you out of items later on?
most of the colony project do as I recall.
>and didn’t have so much buffing
Mod more. Buffbots do exist.
And with the right myth feats later, you really do that shit once and are set for the rest of the map
looks like there's some branching later on but for now it's all the same
https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Colony+Management
>Get a warning for Daring mode
How hard is Daring? I've been able to beat games like Xcom 1/2 on classic and stuff without too much trouble.
Is officer relegated only to support and helping others or is it a viable class if I want to bash shit too?
Daring is the actually baseline Normal mode, with no buffs for you or the enemies, just the actual statline. Owlcat finally figured out the classic game developer trick, name your Easy mode "Normal" to get dumbfricks to use it so they stop crying about how hard the game is.
Play the game on Hard or above or you're a pussy.
I'm bad at turn based games, daring is alright and probably the intended difficulty.
not particularly hard. if you have any experience at all with tactical combat and crpgs in general you'll be fine
I’m on normal and it’s way to easy though that’s mainly due to a laser sniper rifle I found. Providing you find the rifle which I’m sure you will I’d recommend daring.
I’m loving the officer but he’ll never be bad ass and get multi kills, just very effective
I'll see if I find anything neat but I was mostly thinking of going Hive world>Commissar>Officer for class.
But I have no idea how important home world is.
Commissar officer is good if you want to buff while being in the thick of combat. Noble is better if you want to buff from the back. Home world doesn't make or break you just want to pick one with bonuses to fellowship at least. Hive world is a good choice.
I've seen some people doing some nutty shit with a officer/tactician psyker since you can get a bunch of buffs for yourself buffing everyone else and then spooge out one big aoe
same as you, xcom vet, first time owlcat gamer
daring makes fights tough but fair, I would have got bored with normal (easy) mode by now
It's moderately hard but it's fun hard.
Like, boss can kill your whole team in one turn but it's all your fault
I'm playing on hard with a piece of shit build on everyone and I'm doing fine
If you are familiar with these type of games I highly recommend playing with Daring or higher
It's not bad at all, definitely the baseline difficulty if you've had any amount of interaction with these types of games.
>no freeblade knight as an ally
Pity.
I hope someone pilfers a model from a different game and mods one in.
wotr schizos get your own thread
we will when you can even match our player numbers
leave right now, no excuses
I have 45 strength but can't take power armor proficiency. Does it need to be 45 at character creation?
Is it base 45 or 45 with items?
Base 45 but it wasn't 45 at character creation.
I noticed there was an error on my stat calculations for one of my characters wearing a helmet which gave lore, when I unequipped and reequipped it updated what my stat should be. Not sure if that helps you but given how buggy the game is, try unequip reequip any gear if it modifies STR. If that doesnt work, maybe some archetypes cant take it as a feat?
I don't have any +str items, though. Goddamnit I hate slavs so fricking much.
Take another round of strength character training if you're an officer, that's what I had to do. There's probably some bug fricking with it.
Playing a psyker is kinda weak sauce roleplay wise.
I expected it to be a bigger deal, the characters barely register you are one, not even when dealing with the warp
The origins in general rarely come up in dialogue regardless.
All the origins are very similar, aside from criminal lord.
But being a psyker is a big deal in warhammer 40k, it should not be just "whatever m8, the warp affects you as much as this normie Black person"
Why do Owlcat always insist on shitty minigames?
I like the space combat...
look at that anon, he barely has any powers
without them the space combat is dogshit
Its okay, but I am still miffed we aren't getting fighters
salamanders know how to deal with space elves, what a fricking shame we got the worst space marine chapter as a companion
The Space Wolves are easily the coolest Space Marine faction in the setting, you can't go wrong with Viking aesthetics. I'm just glad we didn't get GW forcing Owlcat to use a Primaris Marine.
are you 12 or moronic? vikings are shit, furries are also shit.
Tough rocks, seething smurfs, the best Marine chapter got into this game and your blueboys didn't. Eat it.
reddit taste
i cringed reading your bait, congrats anon
White scars mog dogfrickers
Are salamanders extra harsh on eldar because they keep getting callled 'monkey' by them, and it reminds them that they're Black folk?
Yes. Also on Tau for calling them gorillas.
Nocturne suffered centuries of Dark Eldar raids until Vulkan arrived and killed them all, his hatred for the entire race burns as intensely as the fires of Nocturne
So far every faithful believer in the emperor is just a really nice person
Well, yeah, you can't even get mad at suggesting exterminatus because it's REALLY the way to go
>Imperial World
>Imperial World
>Imperial World
>Imperial World
>Imperial World
>Imperial World
Would it have killed them to spice up the homeworlds for your party members a bit more?
it's the human of homeworlds due to the +10 to a chosen stat. you pick that if you want to minmax
the funniest part is that jimmi is from a feudal world and idira is from a forsaken world, and the game even acknowledges that but they still get generic imperial world abilities. peak laziness
THE ONE GAME WITH A DARK ELDAR COMPANION AND IT'S JUST SOME GENERICO FUJOBAIT homosexual (BI WHATEVER) GUY.
HEAVEN FRICKING FORBID WE GOT A DARK ELDAR WOMAN. HEAVEN. FORBID. WE GET A FEW Black folk, A SISTER OF WHATEVER, SOME BORING GUYS, A CHICK ELDAR WHO HAS LESS EMOTIONS THAN A PRE-RETCON NECRON AND A FFFFFFFFFRICKING GUY DARK ELDAR. NOT A FEMALE DARK ELDAR, NO. A GUY. A DUDE.
FRICK OWLCAT. FRICK YOUUTOYOYOYUYYUYOYIUY
romancegays are animals
Just wait until the modders let you forcefem him with xeno- and archaeotech. I guarantee you the perverted fricker would enjoy it.
... or just make him female from the beginning, lmao.
Does anyone else have an audio bug on your ship where a loud noise plays when you move the camera around? I have no idea what is causing it and resetting my game didn't fix it
Yes and it's really annoying
>where a loud noise plays
Not 100% sure but I think it is supposed to be the Holo-globe turning on and off
Is there a way to set Yrliet's run speed when she's moving with the rest of the squad? I get it knife ears are fast like Sanic and shit but she's always at the front of the formation whenever I move around because of it, and when I get ambushed she's way ahead of my tank like a moron and gets immediately bodied.
What 40K novels got good audiobooks? So far, I've listened to the first Ciaphas Cain novel and it's pretty good.
Brothers of the Snake is good check it out
>Dan Abnett
Seems promising already. Thanks anon.
his Eisenhorn series is good too check that out if you havent already
Not yet, so I really appreciate the suggestion. Though if I had to pick between the two, which would you suggest I look at first?
>Wrath of the lost
What's the name of that song from fotfall that's like "La la la la la"?
How bad are the bugs?
Amberley was able to boss a Rogue Trader around in For the Emperor therefore Rogue Traders are inferior to the Ordo Xenos.
yes no one other than the emperor is above an inquisitor
This is the character people have been cooming over for the last months?
yes deal with it you coom over literal trannies
Why are you having a tantrum? I just posted an image of a funny bug I encountered and you're acting like I personally insulted you. Fricking mindbroken.
This is the bugged model, yes, not the normal one.
Is there anyway to see what I'm actually going to be fighting in the space battles before flying into them
How is the stability of the game? I want to buy it but I don't want to burn data downloading giant patches/bugfixes every other day. Better than the Pathfinder games? I tried WotR and I didn't vibe with it at all. Didn't care for most of the characters, wasn't hooked by the story or the war sim shit.
Autist doesn’t understand how society works.
Shocking.
>Commissars are now treated on the same level as Inquisitors by clueless tertiaries
Holy kek.
A commissar doesn't ever have the power of an inquisitor. What he does have is service to the Administratum. A Rogue Trader tells a Commissar to spit on an idol of the Emperor, he gets shot. It's really not complicated, power does not supercede ideology.
The Writ is literally one of the most holy relics you could possibly have. Some of the ancient ones have the BLOOD OF THE EMPEROR on them. Most commissars would kneel and kiss the parchment, you dumb frick.
All the more reason it cannot be permitted to remain in the hands of a traitor.
What traitor? The Rogue Trader is widely acknowledged to be an emmissary of the Emperor's will. Some commissar interfering with his business is being the actual traitor.
>Rogue Trader tells commissar to commit treason
>but it's the commissar who shoots him for this that is the traitor
This is your ancap brain grasping to the one straw of individual initiative permitted in 40k. Ultimately any personage is subservient to the will of the state. Treason is treason. Rogue Traders are not above this.
You're replying to the wrong reply chain, anon. I never said anything about an RT telling a commissar to commit treason.
It's not the wrong chain.
>A Rogue Trader can't tell a Commissar to spit on an idol of the Emperor and not get shot.
>>nuh uh a commissar would kiss the writ because it's holy
>The writ being holy means it cannot remain in the hands of a traitor, that is the Rogue Trader who told the Commissar to spit on the idol of the Emperor.
>>nuh uh what traitor the Rogue Trader is the emissary of the Emperor's will he's super special and the commissar would be impeding him if he shot him for treason
>Any personage is subservient to the will of the state, Treason is treason.
>>You're replying to the wrong reply chain, I never said anything about an RT telling a commissar to commit treason.
Quote where I said the first part of what you're describing.
>A Rogue Trader can't tell a Commissar to spit on an idol of the Emperor and not get shot.
he absolutely could, as could a whole list off ranks. hell, his immediate supervisor could tell him to do it. let alone someone like a rogue trader in his own territory
If an Imperial Guard officer, even a high ranking one, told a commissar to spit on an icon of the Emperor the commissar would execute him on the spot
Executing traitors among their allies is the one thing commissars are really good at and they won't hesitate to shoot above their own rank to make it happen
Don't ignore me:
You're making shit up that nobody said.
he'll be killed on the spot the moment he raises his gun at nobility
Then he will die in the service of the Imperium, the Commissariat will relay their suspicions to the circumstances of his death, and inevitably the administratum will send an assassin.
Traitors deserve death. Rank only makes the delivery of this death more urgent.
>Then he will die in the service of the Imperium, the Commissariat will relay their suspicions to the circumstances of his death, and inevitably the administratum will send an assassin.
they could literally kill him for looking at them funny, why would anyone be suspicious if he's dead?
he'll die an uppity Black person who offended his superiors
This. If he's actually done enough to frick off the Imperium, they'll send space marines or assassins.
Keeping quiet and reporting the incident makes sense, he's not in a position to really do anything about it.
>Imperial Commissar
>Keeping quiet and reporting the incident
And here I was thinking nothing could beat DoWgays in newhomosexualry and annoyance, but RTards seem to have already broken that record.
Read, Black person, read. Read and lurk for 20 years.
Okay, he opens his mouth and is instantly dragged off by security and severely punished just for speaking without permission. A commissar is just a grunt supervisor, and as part of the guard he has to bear the colour and heraldry of his new lord and master.
Frick, you secondaries make me sick.
Commissars are outside the Imperial military hierarchy. They answer only to the Commissariat, which in turn answers only to the High Lords of Terra. They are not dissimilar to the Inquisition in that way. However, Inquisitors can frick around anywhere they want, while Commissars are usually attached to Imperial Guard units.
A Commissar CAN and is EXPECTED to execute anyone whom he suspects of treason or heresy. Regardless of rank and station. He might have a bit of explaining to do later, but very few people will ever doubt his word. Van Voytz, an Imperial general who was running a whole Crusade, had a Commissar-General following him everywhere, just to put a bolt into his head the moment she suspected treason, and he could not tell her to frick off.
Officially.
Unofficially Commissars are liable to get shot by their own soldiers when they start acting like petty tyrant
>Unofficially Commissars are liable to get shot by their own soldiers when they start acting like petty tyrant
Yes, and? The only thing WH40k universe absolutely guarantees is that anyone, no matter how powerful, can get killed. Even Trazyn.
>Even Trazyn.
>named character
>has a model
Nope he's safe
The first scene of The Infinite and the Divine is him being munched on by a carnosaur. Now of course he got better because necrons don't die when killed but you get the point.
>nobody is ever really gone
yeah I get the point
Hah.
Tallyman, bring up the records on the Godblight incident.
Creed and Kell had models and the former got potatosacked into the aether and the latter got fricking murdered by Abaddon.
I remember one passage in one of the Gaunt's Ghosts books where a teenage guardsman, fresh from his first warzone, is about to be attacked by a commissar with a whip and he and the commissar both realize that the boy WILL kill him if he goes through with it.
Pointless anon, hes mentally ill, and likes larping as a commie. Telling him catchacans are so tough their comissars tend to die of back wounds or that comissars that do nothing but follow around big wigs and threaten them with dogma dont end up being casualties of random hiver violence is pointless. Most comissars that actually do their jobs become a functional resource of their attache, like a bodyguard, confidant or advisor, or baller tough soldier themselves, to a point where they wouldnt be executing their charge anyway.
>The Writ is literally one of the most holy relics you could possibly have. Some of the ancient ones have the BLOOD OF THE EMPEROR on them. Most commissars would kneel and kiss the parchment, you dumb frick.
Where does this say anything about spitting on anything?
It says in the post this is replying to,
>A Rogue Trader tells a Commissar to spit on an idol of the Emperor, he gets shot.
therefore it is part of the reply chain. You did reply to the reply you replied to, right? A Rogue Trader can be a traitor and a commissar would shoot a Rogue Trader demanding the commissar to commit treason. The writ being holy is not going to exonnerate the traitor holding it. Therefore Rogue Trader's have only as much power over a civil servant of the imperial government, the Adeptus Administratum, within the scope of what is not in conflict with the authority of the Imperium itself.
That's not my post you dumb frick, as can be seen by you quoting my direct reply to that post yourself. Learn to read a fricking reply chain.
>arbitrarily decides the reply chain starts with him and not the post he replied to
Figures, a narcissist. No wonder you think Rogue Traders are the best shit in the world.
>No wonder you think Rogue Traders are the best shit in the world.
Holy frick you're so bitter. Now go read up on your lore, tertiary moron.
NTA but you're being a blatant commissar fanboy right now for literally no reason. Commissars are barely above common soldiers in the grand scheme of things. A commissar wouldn't even get near a Rogue Trader to try to do anything, nobody would support him in this regard.
Commissars do not need to be anything above common soldiers. They represent the authority of the Imperium as a gestalt entity.
That is the whole point of why they are not suitable for being Rogue Traders, because a Rogue Trader is a PERSON while a commissar is a civil servant. A bureaucrat. Not a person, but an extension of the state.
The fact that it is ultimately individuals that have to be commissars and that the best commissars in lore like Yarrick, Gaunt and Cain are individualistic are fortunate accidents, what is required of them and indoctrinated in them is to not be people at all.
A Rogue Trader is literally a personal agent of the God-Emperor himself. A commissar is like the shit beneath his heels in comparison. A Rogue Trader IS the state.
>They represent the authority of the Imperium as a gestalt entity.
And Rogue Traders represent it to a much higher degree.
Not if he commits or orders someone to commit treason.
>A Rogue Trader is literally a personal agent of the God-Emperor himself.
Not if he's a traitor.
>A Rogue Trader IS the state.
No, the Emperor is the state. And those who commit treason are traitors.
>deflects to what someone else said an hour ago
Please tell me you're just baiting, because it's working.
And who are you to say that the RT has committed treason? They have a paper signed by the emprah himself saying they can do whatever the frick they want.
Ordering a commissar to commit treason by spitting on an idol of the Emperor is treason. Even if a Rogue Trader does it.
The Emperor does not need to manage anything to be the state. He is the state. That's the Imperial Creed. It's the ideology that keeps the Imperium together and it is above personal authority or hierarchy.
You're going to tell me that Goge Vandire, being the most powerful man in the Imperium for his time, wasn't a traitor just because he had a lot of power? Do you even understand what the Imperium is?
>That's the Imperial Creed. It's the ideology that keeps the Imperium together and it is above personal authority or hierarchy.
And that creed says Rogue Traders are one of the absolute highest forms of authority in the Imperium.
The Creed can levy any personal authority over any other authority, but it does not under any circumstance ever place any personal authority above itself and the Emperor.
And Rogue Traders carry proof of being authorized by the Emperor himself to do (almost) anything they want. 🙂
The Emperor did not authorize them to commit treason against him.
>deflecting again
consorting with xenos is treason against him and it allows them to do exactly that
>consorting with xenos is treason against him
A typical missconception. Consorting with xenos is only treason if it's treason.
And the Emperor said to the Rogue Traders "go and do whatever you want".
The Emperor hasn't managed shit for ten thousand years. The only importance he actually has is keeping the astronomican working.
>hate gods and try to make humanity follow logic and reason above all.
>wake up milenia later only to realize you are their god now, and turned your entire empire into a big ass church.
Can't imagine the warpstorm that will appear from the degrees of mad he will be if he finds out.
We have an idea
Oh, he knows. The Throne expands his mindsight to the point he can see almost everything. But he's committed to fight. To rage against the dying of the light for as long as he can.
Emprah is a man of reason. He would be aware, that humanity didn't chose to become like that, it's just the only configuration in which it can survive, considering its many crippling dependencies and absences of crucial civilization components. For some reason people always miss that part, and think that there was a choice between being some nice reasonable society which respects personal freedoms, or obscurantist theocracy.
The emperor is a c**t and the thought that the imperium is the opposite of what he would have wanted is one of the few good things about it.
>, because a Rogue Trader is a PERSON while a commissar is a civil servant
A rogue trader is a direct representative of the Imperium and sole authority of the edges of the Imperium, while a commissar is a civil servant
>A rogue trader is a direct representative of the Imperium
All the more reason why the commissar can and must execute a rogue trader for treason.
It's not a matter of who has more power. It's a matter of what his duty is.
>sole authority of the edges of the Imperium
No man other than the Emperor has sole authority over anything.
Well good luck because the Rogue Trader probably has several planets between any Commissar and a legion of men even if he could theoretically get within visual distance.
>literally just repeating his posts
Absolutely mindbroken. You know nothing about 40k, moron. Now go seethe and dilate while commissars are dying by the thousands at the whim of a Rogue Trader.
It's not unusual for a Rogue Trader to have literally thousands of commissars that he sends out to die on some battlefield. You sound genuinely autistic by your weird hyperfocus on "muh duty".
Any order given by a Rogue Trader to a Commissar must be a command that the Commissariat would consider loyal. Disloyal commands would be treason.
Sending a commissar to die is not disloyal. Ordering a commissar to commit treason would be.
The commissar is not a person and cannot be accounted for on any hierarchy. He's an instrument of the state to excise treason. Rogue Traders that commit treason are to be executed.
You have a severe case of autism.
I genuinely believe you don't know anything about what a Commissar even is at this point.
>All the more reason why the commissar can and must execute a rogue trader for treason.
It doesn't matter. He's just not in a position to do so. He lacks the ability. He cannot physically do that. He will be instantly a bloodstain on the decking. He can call in other Imperium forces including the Inquisition and cause a lot of mild inconvenience if it's legit though.
You stupid Black person, commissars have executed Imperial governors of entire planets for not fighting hard enough when their planet was besieged.
A rogue trader isn't some helpless pleb guardsman to be shot it the back for hesitating, he will have a personal shield and no end of angry men with big guns, a commissar can't do shit to them physically.
>a commissar can't do shit to them physically
Physics is irrelevant in the face of obligation.
A commissar must either execute the traitor. If he dies in the attempt, that isn't important because the commissar isn't a person and his life not only belongs to the Emperor, but the entirety of his being is an instrument of the Imperium to excise traitors.
You are a 16-year old autistic favela monkey who learned about 40k through youtube videos.
They are both adepts and thereby servants of the emperor. A commissar serves the administratum a rogue trader is part of the rogue traders (duh). These are different authorities that answer only to the Emperor, which leads to the eternal imperial clusterfrick: technically nobody can tell the other what to do but inoffically you better do what the guy with the power to kill you says because your superiors aren't going to risk their ass to save a nobody from a somebody with an armada at his disposal.
>A Rogue Trader tells a Commissar to spit on an idol of the Emperor, he gets shot.
NTA but I don't see any contradiction to what you've said here. He said the RT gets shot, you're saying the RT gets shot. What's the problem?
I am
Mr
>>you're in the wrong reply chain
is moronic
Still NTA and I ask again, what's the contradiction here?
No one in the Adeptus Administratum has higher authority than a Rogue Trader, except for the High Lords of Terra.
That is irrelevant in the scope that Rogue Traders still do not have authority over the Commissariat.
Yes they do. Why do you keep lying even after other people have posted proof?
If a sergeant in the US Army was ordered to do something by a 4 star General in the USMC, you are saying that the Sergeant would be perfectly justified in telling the General to frick himself
Yes if the order was to commit treason against the United States of America. And the US suffers greatly for not having an imperial government instead of the lobbyist congress and military industrial complex that it has now. A frickton of problems wouldn't exist if people with influence were shot for acting against a centralized authoritarian regime.
Strictly speaking rogue traders have no authority even over the lowliest guardsman. But in practice that's not how it goes.
Incredibly incorrect. Rogue Traders are above everything, even Inqusitors who at best can mildly annoy them or try to work around them in everything but ordering them to do something.
They can literally order a commissar to shoot themself and if they refused the other commissars would shoot him instead.
if you do not own at least 10 warhammer books physically and have read them, do not come talking about lore.
Lore videos on youtube do not count and just make you a secondary.
>Cassia movement abilities leave visual effects on the map that never fricking leave
This is annoying
The skill/talent system is kinda dogshit. Why are all of Cassia's navigator related buffs/perks underneath unimportant stuff like bolter mastery or skillups.
there's a filter button at the top
is this game good? what genre is it?
i like it so far. i just finished act1
its a turn based strategy rpg
theres some cover system kinda like xcom but its very much its own system
in many ways resembles pathfinder kingmaker if you played that except its not exactly dnd
sounds really good, thanks anon
Do I need to find a portrait before I start playing like in PF Kingmaker/WoTR or can I change it later? I only have portraits for fantasy.
>can I change it later
Not without Toybox
Frick.
Any decent imgurs with setting appropriate portraits? I'm making a cybernetic naval officer from forge planet.
only starting act 2 now
is the space wolf romancable (gay)? does he bottom?
have a nice day, homosexual.
frick off farquaad
Does any of this autistic arguing even matter with the situation in this game. You're basically just there because of a frickup
If I frick Jae, do I brick my relationship with Cassia?
>Cheating on Cassia
Hopefully yes
Do not cheat on the fish
Cassia is just for connection purposes, you can't truly love a mutant
I do love her though
cuck
You're a rogue trader who banged a novator, you're not going to stop there. They turn into bloated fish monsters as they get closer to becoming the boss monster, I wouldn't get too hung up on it.
>Yeah, I fricked that. I also fricked three eldar, a tau ethereal, and that tyranid over there all at the same time.
Why wouldn't you at that point?
But the Emperor is literally a mutant
Show me his third eye
Just be a Navigator and that is what you'll likely see
She can give u a child tho.
>AoTgays are still so butthurt about Historia getting FARMED that they do things like this
Likely not, probably going to get an unavoidable "decide who, you two timing bastard!" event at some point
Are melee criminal operatives any good? I wanna zip around being a critfiend. Or are fire psyker vanguards pretty much the go-to if you wanna gib shit in melee?
Yes go Assassin for zipping around farming crits
is it time to swap back to the bolter?
Can everyone learn to use bolters? I thought they were for people with strong augmentations.
Giving a Sister a las weapon seems incredibly cursed.
really wish retraining allowed you to to pick a different archetype.
Has anyone done the encounter with the occluding sphere? How are you suppose to damage it?
oopsie, negative Nancy thread that was
I am mad and sweaty and I'm not even ashamed to admit I only could do this with a bizzaro exploit that skips his first turn.To say that my own build was filtered into sewers is an understatement.
Idira somehow managed to do a warp frickup in every battle in prologue
Are there any consequences to the order you choose to visit the 3 worlds in act 2?
curious about this too, most of the comments here are either dataminers, lore discussion or waifu stuff. not sure how many are actually playing rn
Skipping all romance is the way to go
That or romancing Jae
>Skipping all romance is the way to go
Yes
>or romancing Jae
Nononononononnono
Jae is only female with good ending
How would you rewrite Jae anons?
I would remove her and make a freebooter ork instead
Unironically make her a man instead of a woman.
That would get sort of funny because the wokies would go completely bonkers over the creeping on Argenta if it was done by a male.
replace her with Ryzza
make her hot
Why can I take Psy Rating 1 talent on Idira? Shouldn't she already have it?
She gets free Psy Rating for being unsactioned, She can get Psy Rating 1 and it adds up to her rating
Playing Arch-Militant is fun, you can ignore WS and BS and get your other stats high, and still have monstrous WS and BS way ahead of everyone else in the party.
I wish characters looked a bit more like their portraits.
Fricking ass volleys that never hit anything but me.
How the frick do you get rid of mercenaries? I'm stuck with a -2 trade rating debuff just because I wanted to see try out some builds.
Do space marines even have working wieners? Or does that get removed with the carapace surgery?
Hardware stays, software gets deleted.
Is there ANYWAY to not make Jae useless, I recently got her but she is by far the biggest waste of space I've seen thus far, she does frick all damage with frick all hit chance, the only redeeming factor is using "Bring It Down" with her
Once you have high rep with all the merchant factions she becomes godlike.
Time to respec since Seize the Initiative is fricking broken with GS. May as well respec everyone at this point, is there a limit or cost to respeccing?
>moronic AI shitposter is finally trapped in the containment thread
>now we have some new autist who keeps making up a headcanon and even when confronted with the source material he simply goes off on another tangent
Why can't these threads ever be normal?
The owlcat experience
is jae actually that bad? or does she just filter Gankeredditors?
She is a paki bawd. She is not bad unless you are a romance Black person, but for romance she openly talks about fricking other people for fun
she is worthless garbage as a unit and as a character
She is just... sort of pointless.
As clearly shown by her being a soldier for half of beta and now turned into officer.
Guess so Cass has her feats free for Navigator stuff
guys, i found another Black person
it's over
Looks more asian to me.
I hate the fricking skill selection UI. I have to click on every single one of them every fricking level. The skills don't even have icons for frick's sakes.
read, homie, read
I like playing as psycker, but after I witnessed just how based Abelard is, I want to do the next playthrough as a noble officer, just so I can order Abelard to twist the balls of anyone I don't like in combat.
noble officer plays the same as psyker officer
just the psyker has access to psyker powers
Being a psyker doesn't change anything from what I've seen. Most people don't even acknowledge it.
>no ogryn companion
>no ratling companion
>no squat companion
>no ogryn companion
missed opportunity
>no ratling companion
good because frick ratlings
>no squat companion
good because GW would force them to comply with their new Leagues of Votann lore
>no kroot companion
>no ork companion
It's like they don't even want me to play.
>say dumb shit about the lore
>get proven wrong several times
>double down on it
Every time. Commissars have barely any authority in the grand scheme of things, you moronic homosexual.
Goddamn it Owlcat.
Please understand.
how does having aeldari equipment knowledge stop you from using this rifle? What's the lore behind this?
Maybe it was touched by a human at some point, and they refuse to use it.
Can you corrupt your companions to Chaos?
You can definitely change shit for most of them, but it is not always a flat-out chaos corruption.
Reminder that this whole discussion started because a moronic tertiary didn't read up on his lore and thinks Rogue Traders are just merchants.
remember to live by these words, fellow iconoclastCHADS
>writ allows Rogue Trader to consort with Xenos, a capital offense for almost any other person but one holding a writ
it is pretty much a "get away with 'treason' free" card
They have pretty much no choice in that regard since one of their main duties is exploration and they aren't packing enough firepower to wipe out all xenos they might encounter.
It's signed with the very blood of the Emperor himself, who the frick are you to argue?
Yes the big paper literally says "The esteemed Rogue Trader can do whatever he wants" - Big Emps ca. 30.000
Well, specifically outside the imperium. I honestly percieve rogue traders as equal to inquisitors but outside the imperium, and thus somewhat subordinate to them inside it. Obviously individual power and ranking varies wildly.
Proposition: any poster who wants to sling around tertiary as an insult must first post proof of owning RT.
And if they want to use secondary they have to post minis
Cassia has a very unfortunate chin
Frick bros, I just finished Cassia's personal quest where she has problems with people on the crew, were there certain dialogue options i was supposed to pick to advance her romance? I didn't really see any.
Her romance is bugged anon
I thought it was bugged in that it progresses too fast for some people?
Yes, so fast in fact that it's classified as complete so you don't get future romance events, or at least that's what several people here said
I would honestly just wait for the patch, assuming they fix it and don't make you reload an earlier save that is
Is the commissar fanboy just baiting or something? He's like a broken record.
Don't try to argue with people who know 40k through memes.
Imperiumaboos are rare nowadays but they still exist, just ignore them.
>travel through space to Dargonus, last world left to liberate for the von Valancius dynasty
>get ambushed by a bunch of lower deck rabble and daemonettes in a 1v20
>i'm a noble officer/grand strategist with 30/30 weapon/ballistics, havent used a weapon in my life
>ohshit.jpg
>as it turns out, whenever i end my turn, i get another one
>infinity turns
>but i cant attack, can only use officer abilities but i dont have any targets to use them on
>no load zone at the elevator where it usually is in the private chambers
>reload save
>same shit happens
>try to take another route to Dargonus
>same shit happens again
H E L P, I'M IN FRICKING PURGATORY
x
ironically, this is a very 40k thing to happen until you lose your mind and your soul falls to chaos (modding)
Welcome to Slaanesh's Fun House, enjoy Daemonette wiener
Marry the fish, they said. The years of inbreeding only make her better, they said.
Post traders.
>operative
i'm sorry for your loss, at least you're still starting out, not too late to reroll
I'm having fun with my setup.
Also, wasn't crime lord operative -> assassin the most broken combo in the game? I did read that somewhere
Frick commisars. The real issue with the lore of this game, and the reason you can tell the devs dont actually know shit about the setting, is the fact that 6 fricking people can kill a CHAOS SPACE MARINE. Like, what the frick?
You should avoid some of the books then, they might give you a heart attack...
Space marines have never been invincible. And you are fighting one that is mostly alone without support, with a party that is armed and armored to the teeth. They die to plasma and melta the same as everyone else.
Space marines are only T4 and have a +3 armor save. Even a bunch of guardsmen can kill those jobbers.
There's a CSM in Gaunt's Ghosts who gets killed by literal jungle ooga boogas.
Space Marines are stupid inconsistent in novels. Sometimes they're unkillable supermen that kill a hundred regular humans on their own and then at other times a fricking lasgun shot the helmet instant kills them.
Are you sure that was in gaunts ghosts?
I swear I did read nearly the same story in some horus heresy book, Word Bearers telling how one of theirs got stabbed in the throat by a backwater primitives spear.
Killed them all of them around with his bare hands for it, but still bled out.
It was. CSM died to hundreds of blow darts shooting into his unarmored face. Idiot went without a helmet.
Yes, he's hunting the killteam and he gets ambushed because he was a wienery moron.
>6 people
>2 of which are psychers
>1 of which is a SoB
That's already more than enough
>another lorelet
It never ends.
-Gay Rogue Trader psyker
-His boyfriend
-Transsexual Abelard
-Black psyker
-Emperors prostitute
-Xenos who cucks you later
Hardly "average" people.
Space Marines are not immortal, neither are they invincible.
Protagonists can kill chaos space marines no matter what their background is
In Gaunt's Ghosts you have 5-man squads of common guardsmen taking out dozens of chaos space marines
Antagonists always get debuffed like that in 40K stories, eldars usually get hit the worst by this
read some of the other codexes, every single faction is full of invincible badasses that could easily kill a hundred [other_faction_unit] that will make you the coolest kid in middle school if you buy them, not just space marines
Yeah and in Boltgun one ultramarine could kill hundreds of them including terminators of them and sever greater demons. It's a game.
No normal space marine could do that but he's an ultramarine. Those guys have impenetrable levels of plot armour.
Chaos space marines have never not been jobbers. They exist to be bullied by named characters and sometimes even regular guardsmen.
What the previous anons said, plus you have to consider their technology is stagnant, even worse than the imperium. Some CSM chapters still use the same gear they had during the heresy. (a counterargument is that they have hereteks and time dilation to advance, but both of these are canon yet contradictory facts, like alot of stuff in the warhammer universe.
>some CSM chapters still use the same gear they had during the heresy.
And they are better off for it, Volkites > Bolters
The issue is hereteks, specially Dark Mechanicum guys, are more of the school of shove daemons into things to see what happens kind
Not that progressive to be honest even if you get daemon weapons every once in a while
Ranking the gods in how involved they are in the story
Tzeentch>Khorne>Slaanesh>Nurgle
I'm 15 hours in and combat has been pretty boring so far. I just yell at Argenta to stuck buffs on her and then she runs around mowing down 5 cultists per bust while Abelard gorillas at everything and never ever dies. I'm playing on the difficulty above normal. Does it get better later on when you unlock the advanced classes?
No, you just stack even more buffs before attack.
Its not even like I'm pressing more buttons or setting up different combos because all my buffs are hidden in some arbitrary traits that give a character 5+2xFEL%10 on all of their stats whenever I far in their general direction.
Thats owlcat gameplay in a nutshell.
Its better in rogue trader anyway, because in WOTR you had to manually buff for 20 minutes.
Still mad i can't corrupt her and go full coomer on her ass. (it makes sense you can't tho, but my dick keeps complaining.)
So which common talents should I take for my Commissar Officer, Ganker? I felt like I should've rolled as a Noble instead, but the prologue is a slog to play through...
Rogue Traders (and High Lords) are not immunized to danger in their authority and often get targeted - sometimes rom within their own fleets - by fricks who want to take the writ for themselves. They get a lot of leeway but if it starts to look like you worship chaos or believe in the Greater Good you will be removed/replaced with your next in line if they aren't corrupted.
A Rogue Trader who tells a Commissar to do pointless heretical shit is running a risk:
- if it goes public/widespread, an Inquisitor could get on their ass
- if they do it privately, the Commissar will try to either report it up or potentially decide then and there that a heretic RT is too much of a danger to the Imperium, attempting to kill them even if it costs their own life
There was also a case where some Space Sharks told a RT to either forsake her writ to become their serf or die (she saw some shit they didn't want her to), though I can't remember if Big E signed that one.
>There was also a case where some Space Sharks told a RT to either forsake her writ to become their serf or die
what book
I'll have to check but it wasn't a book, just a short story. I just have a shitload of rulebook pdfs and BL epubs in sorted folders.
It was the usual "hey let's loot this priceless xenos archeotech - oh frick what are these green glowing skeletons?" plot. Her retinue is dead and the Sharks don't want her to leave with what she saw, I think there was a reason beyond just knowing Necrons exist.
space sharks sometimes just show up to random worlds and enslave everyone sometimes. Also do you know a good place read comics like bloodquest or damnation crusade
Anon, that one commissar fanboy is citing what one (1) anon said in a single post about "spitting on an idol". Before and after we were talking about completely different things, like him claiming that a commissar cannot be a Rogue Trader and other nonsense. Please don't fuel his weird autistic tangents.
>Fight space marine boss
>His turn is forced first, he uses it to position in optimal way to spray his gun and down half a team
>Since he has some effect that changes his behavior, have that talent which forces officer's turn to be first, use it to force one party member to shot him before his turn
>This consistently changes his behavior, he uses single shots and generally becomes harmless compared to that homosexual sniper on the same arena
I'm not sure if it's a bug or feature. If that's intended way to deal with him, how the frick do you even win that encounter if you don't have officer with you, or don't have that particular talent taken on the officer?
>ready to commit to FOR THE EMPEROR AT ALL COSTS
>immediately feel bad afterwards
I guess it's time to be a good little boy for me.
Is epicenter of slaughter bugged? I don't seem to be getting anything from it
I don't seem to be getting anything from operative ability that gets bonus per exploits used either. Not sure if it's not working or simply not displayed in status.
>Get to Aurora fight
>Dimmu Borgir starts playing
This is when the game had me, what an absolute fricking baller experience.
>some random gang member on Footfall has a fricking Thunder Hammer
>he stuns with every hit and gets an extra attack every time her does so he just smashes 3 party members to death in a round
epic
skill issue
>He attacks Heinrix
>gets parried
>Cassias turn
>free turn to Heinrix, smack his ass
>just make him walk back and forth in front of Heinrix soaking up attacks of oppurtunity
>Heinrix turn
>charge him, smack his ass, heroic action
>dead before he even gets a second turn
Jae isn't even ugly
>he's still going on about the "traitor" thing
Genuine autism or an impressive troll, not sure.
Are any of the commissar talents worth taking? I thought I'd get some use of the ability but so far I just haven't really felt like setting it up.
>beat the first colony planet
>realize there's a colony mgmt subgame
>and i traded food for money instead of food for control
how bad did i frick up? there's a whole tree of things ill miss out on now
Lorewise if the rogue trader ordered a sister of battle to suck him off, would she?
Lorewise of course
This is based on nothing other than my speculation but most likely yes
No because she is married to the Emperor and he would be following the example of Goge Vandire, a traitor, and deserve to be executed.
>muh married to the Emperor
you know that bolter b***hes have zero chastity rules and can frick when they feel like it, right?
You know that moronic owlkeks writers consider characters their children?
That nenio and argenta writers consider player fricking npc as rape on them.
Some would if the RT got to know them. Argenta doesn't seem like that type of person. They're not celibate but they are still fricked in the head battle-nuns.
Sob won't do what they are forbidden to do in their order codex so trader would have to find a wiener sucking order first.
>it's the alushinyrra chapter
Who the frick is Fidel?
me
>announces your titles and authority
>gives you sound advice, loyal but not moronic
>glares at anyone who looks at you funny or wants to insult you
>walls enemies who approach you
>sunders enemies who oppose you
Literally how are the other party members supposed to compete with such dangerously high levels of based?
this is the most factual post on Ganker as of this moment
In general I'm enjoying it but I have a couple of... not necessarily criticisms but notes regarding the narrative aspect
A lot of the dialogue options are about asking what things are, unless my character is some feral worlder that still refers to the Emperor as the sun god this makes no sense
Additionally the background doesn't seem to affect dialogue in significant ways, I picked Commissar background do I was expecting my character to be a stern no nonsense dude with a penchant to shoot anyone yet most dialogue options are really, well civil and the butthole options feel more like regular butthole than military prefect butthole
I see you can get a deldar companion but is that as evil as it gets? can you get any chaos companions or corrupt your crew as the game goes on?
There's an entire story path for heretic characters what do you think
Abelard is insanely based
my man literally soloed an entire room of chaos AdMech guys and servitors that kept getting healed and given temp wounds every round
>buff him with my officer MC
>use Abelards heroic move
>infinite melee attacks per turn
>doesn't end his movement after attacking
>gets +4 movement points after a successful kill
>can kill an unlimited amount of fodder enemies as long as they are less than 5 paces apart from each other
Love this dude and the carnage he can cause in populated rooms
Which do you suppose will come first, Argenta romance or female Heinrix?
I can't play, it makes me feel like a bad guy and it fricking sucks, why do I have to call these pieces of shit allies, I am playing in hopes that I get the chance to kill them or something, but I doubt that when I look up on it there is only romance I hate romance in games, fucucukc this game, warhammer is ass
Which companion ruffled your feathers anon?
cassia just landed on the prison planet and she says how theobald executed his wife and son on suspicion, I read those logs how those servants got their toungues cut off for speaking to her and they kept killing them self when near her, she is just a shitty piece of shit noble, then abelard who is a piece of shit who tortures the people on the lower decks, and is just a c**t, I guess I shouldn't complain it's a warhammer40k universe there is nothing but war blah blah and the imperium of man is fascist, not for me best if I just stopped playing because I just can't into being a lord
Cassia doesn't do that on purpose you moron. But if she did there would be nothing wrong with it because they're all just rabble
Yeah sounds like it really isn't for you
It's a shame but at least you gave it a chance
Regina is traitor and heretic be warned gays.