Dogmatic, iconoclast or heretic?
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Dogmatic, iconoclast or heretic?
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dogmaclast
This
Also, fish
Loved by many.
Also fricked by many.
Farmerchads we win again
Aye, the harvest is mighty plentiful this year.
Lets harvest some fish pussy
Owlkeks just can't help themselves can they?
That's why I fricked the pirate prostitute and the Dark Eldar
If every waifu in every Owlkek game is used goods, I might as well go for the most thoroughly used ones as possible
Correct choice!
Are anons really moronic enough to fall for this obvious fake or just continuing the joke? I can't tell.
They're literally just shitposting and circlejerking each other, don't reply
Alright she's off the list, who are the other choices?
>they tell me she's making a ruckus in the library
>go see her, she starts talking about books
>"Who gave you fricking permission to leave the bridge?"
reined that disgusting mutant in right away
>tfw no Abelard to introduce me irl
Iconoclast with a dash of dogmatic
Heretics get the airlock
This. Honest frickups get one chance to prove themselves. Heretics get plasma to the face.
Big tiddy elf gfs are now canon, thanks Owlcat!
Death to big tiddy elf gfs, thanks GOTO.
hand-holding with big tiddy elf gfs!
So I should be taking Fellowship and willpower for my MC Officer?
That's what I did, and I took a psyker origin. Not sure if it was wise though, Idira is Unsanctioned so she is always 1 PR stronger and the Interrogator guy has two disciplines (Biomancy and Sanctic).
Reminder that if you call someone secondary or tertiary you have to provide proof that you are not the pot calling the kettle black
Normally I'd agree with you but the commissar autist is really fricking obnoxious.
>believing that people are obliged to do anything on a mongolian basket-weaving forum
I shiggy diggy
ok quaternary
dawgs
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>big E simp ruleslawyer, heresy (good intentions) or heresy (edgelord)
Fish is the right choice
The fish hates plebs and heretics.
Reminder that Commissars are weaker than Rogue Traders in every conceivable way, including their duty and obligations and if they spat on the Emperor a Commissar could do absolutely nothing about it whatsoever and the Commissar would still be considered the traitor for showing discontent towards the Rogue Trader. 🙂
the emperor protects lord captain
Just splatting a commissar could get you in trouble with the Inquisition especially if you keep doing it in a non subtle way such as disabling the gellar field in their quarters.
>Just splatting a commissar could get you in trouble with the Inquisition
Haha, no.
>especially if you keep doing it
Depends on the numbers and circumstances.
Some Rogue Traders have literal armies of commissars under their command which they will sent to their deaths without hesitation. Nobody gives a flying frick if a commissar dies. Some Rogue Traders have successfully fought and killed Inquisitors and had enough political power to clear their names, even though they did obviously questionable shit.
It's such a bother though. The high lords of terra might take me off their official Christmas card list and serve wine only thirty thousand years old. I shall stick to nodding, smiling, and quietly having my assassin team deal with them in a properly deniable manner.
>Some Rogue Traders are traitors.
And you people want to play as these shitters.
Yikes and cringe. You people are forgetting that fascism is based and libertarianism is not based.
some Inquisitors are traitors too, such is life in the Imperium of Man
Rogue Traders are also the sole reason why Imperium gains a net plus of worlds. You think Imperium just sends in a fleet to scout some systems and take them? Nah, it is too resourceful.
The entire task of finding new worlds to inhabit is solely tasked upon the Rogue Traders and thus is why some Rogue Traders possess actual solar systems of wealth. People underestimate just how much political power RT have in the Warhammer 40k setting.
thats what explorators are for
Rogue Traders are explorators to some extent too, with much more political power and less ties with Adeptus Mechanicus.
RTs also have a voidship. That carries continent-fricking macroweaponry. You can say that Imperial Navy admirals have fleets of battleships but the Admiral will most likely be stuck patrolling Imperial space while the RT is most likely to be out there in the boonies with his vessel that will orbital bombard you to hell if he feels like it.
Also the RT can probably ask the admiral to send a fleet through a place if he expects xeno trouble and let Imperial dogma handle the rest.
The Rogue Trader in the game has a decent escort ship, like a big frigate or destroyer by todays standarts, as flagship.
Even the especially powerful Rogue Trader involved in starting the first Imperium-Tau war used a light cruiser.
So Rogue Traders have decent ships but rarely something capable of blasting continents unless they have some archeotech and exterminatus grade weapon in some safe.
A commissar is just a guy who keeps the moron guardsmen shooting. They're not that important in the grand scheme of things unless they have a Dan Abnett snowflake rank.
Ibram Gaunt got into trouble for way, way less than starting shit with a Rogue Trader though.
Exactly, because he's just a fancy guard regimental commander.
Abelard, please inform this bandit scum that we're here to kill him.
Honestly kinda based that they don't want people having sex with their children.
Honestly makes me want to commission some porn.
Reminder that Rogue Traders are weaker than Inquisitors in every conceivable way, including their duty and obligations and if they fricked their fish waifu the cuck trader could do absolutely nothing about it whatsoever and the cuck trader would still be considered the traitor for showing discontent towards the Inquisitor. 🙂
>shoot the inquisitor
>claim he started mutating or something
It's that easy*~~
Damn you are right mister inquisitor, I lost, there is nothing I can do....
*steps out of the room and opens the airlock*
>columbo as a rogue trader
Good thing I'm already a traitor then
Please refer to my big ass scroll that tells me I can do whatever the frick I want according to the dead god you worship
Inquisitor only answer to the emperor
Rogue traders only answer to the emperor and the occasional high inquisitor
Both answer to the Imperial Creed or die the death of traitors.
No they won't. Plenty of Rogue Traders did heretical shit and were never punished for it. Same goes for Inquisitors.
>nuh the traitors are still alive!
You'll defend chaoswank next.
a commissar can shoot an inquisitor if he says something heretical, it's within his rights
Didn't happen to a lot of them though.
It's within anyone's rights to shoot any heretic.
It is in fact every man's duty.
And in the case of a commissar, he is more duty than man.
is it? certainly not in rogue trader territory
cringe statement
just to be clear, you are saying that an ordinary guardsman will walk free if he hears an inquisitor or a rogue trader saying something heretical to him and shoots him?
a regular gurardsman is so buckbroken he wouldnt dareeven listening to what his betters are saying
not that anyone in power would be dumb enough to let something like that slip
Of course not. I'm just saying the discussion about who has the right to shoot who for heresy is dumb.
i just don't think it's realistic for someone like a guardsman or a commissar to shoot someone like a space marine chapter master or a rogue trader or a planetary governor or an inquisitor for heresy. in the first place, no matter how correct he was nobody is going to care.
it's like the janitor at a church shooting the pope. he probably didn't even understand what the guy was talking about
a Commissar basically only has authority over grunts, anything above that is the territory of the Inquisition
Stop feeding the commissar autismo, when he starts talking about real life politics you should know better.
It would be stupid for a lowrank to question a highrank's motives. He may be indulging in light heresy to test the people around him for pushback, to locate spies, to see who is really loyal.
name 10
I won't look them all up but from the top of my head: Rassilo, Eisenhorn, Quixos, Karamazov, Darkhammer for Inquisitors, and Anzaforr, Armelan, Blitz, Diaz Lan and Feckward for Rogue Traders.
>Rassilo
got executed
>Karamamazov
is an ultra puritan
>Darkhammer
was only declared a traitor by his nemesis who was a radical
>Anzaforr
just transports pilgrims
>lorelet can't read past minor wiki entries
Quixos did nothing wrong
Eisenhorn killing him is what doomed Cadia to fall and enabled the Great Rift to spawn
I didn't say they did anything wrong, I said they did shit that is definitely considered heretical.
wasn't he wearing all sorts of heretical shit when eisenhorn found him
Some warrants of trade explicitly allow otherwise heretical shit.
those warrants sound a little... heretical themselves
The emperor wrote them, but then he didn't write the lex imperialis or the texts of the imperial faith either so who knows
You are literally calling the written will of the emperor heretical
Reminder that being called a secondary is a compliment, because spending money on overpriced plastic figurines is not something to be proud of.
I just don't have any interest in the tabletop, minis, or painting. I like the games, books, and background lore more.
Restraint is for homosexuals.
Now, if you excuse me, I have daemonette wiener to suck.
I was thinking about bringing the eldar and drukhari along, just in case there's an opportunity to sacrifice them to Slaanesh.
Yes actually, you can sacrifice both of them to Slaanesh. There's an event where a daemonette asks you to give Slaanesh Marazhai's soul and you can. There's also apparently an ending where you kill Yrliet and sacrifice her soul to Slaanesh.
Almost certainly dlc down the line. 40k is such a big setting that they could legitimately milk this for half a decade or more while they start working on the next game. I just want three companions and a pet for each of the major factions/groups in 40k.
Two more companions so far. Unless they milk this shit with a season pass 2. Again.
I hope they milk us and we get season pass 2 because I want roguelike dlc
Do you want a standalone adventure that ties into the main story, too? In two parts? Everyone hated it.
>Unless they milk this shit with a season pass 2. Again.
If the DLCs sell rest assured they will
And as long as it's not a side campaign but something that adds to the main game, I will keep buying.
As far as Tau are concerned, I highly doubt it
>As far as Tau are concerned, I highly doubt it
why?
literally the other side of the galaxy
Because even if technically it's "allowed" in the ttrpg, thematically there are far better choices, like the two companions they have already planned.
Also nobody really cares much about Tau outside of porn, if a new Xeno companion is coming my money is on an Ork because that could actually sell
I would love to have an Ork, he would be funny as hell. "I'LL SET ME GITFINDA TO PANZEE"
>Chaos uprising hits planet
>Dark Eldar show up and just steal the fricking sun
Honestly based
you can't just
you can't just steal the fricking sun
GIVE IT BACK
I'm trying Heretic because it's so rare to be able to do in 40k games. Sometimes, you just want to be a monster, you know?
I want to do a blend of iconoclast and heretic. Is heretical to try to use the tools of the enemy against them? I got a demon-ey blade shard that I can't stop thinking about how cool it could be
Yes, using tainted weapons is heresy in most cases, even against daemons. Very few people can wield a weapon corrupted by Chaos without succumbing themselves.
pretty sure thats how fulgrim went
Fulgrim at least had the excuse of not knowing what it was. Plenty of others who know better still try it, either out of desperation or the idiotic idea that you can weaponize Chaos. The Warp always wins that one, sooner or later.
It's too late, you have already fallen to heresy.
Abelard, you know what to do.
NOOOOOOOOO I WAS JUST CURIOUS
That's how they get you. That voice in your head telling you how cool it would be to use a daemon blade? That's Chaos.
I want to wait for stuff to come out before I do a Heretic run. I don't want to be an undivided b***h, or serve Nurgle or Khorne. I'm down for Slaneesh if it's a choice but I'm not going to seek out it but give me a chance to properly serve the changer of ways and I will pursue it with my whole being.
My understanding is that all four gods show up in some form or another, but Tzeentch has a lot to do with the main quest.
>He thinks he has a choice
You'll worship the big blue squidbird and you'll like it
Reminder that your egotistic power wank is irrelevant and only duty to the Emperor and his Imperium is important. Traitors of all ranks must be executed and higher rank simply marks the execution as urgent.
And the Commissar can do nothing about it, while the Rogue Trader fulfills a billion times more important duty to the Emperor. 🙂
Traitors don't fulfill duties by definition.
>non sequitur
This is the part where you repeat yourself from the beginning once more.
It isn't a non-sequitor. You were attempting to mock commissars for being unable to prevent Rogue Traders from committing treason. But a Rogue Trader that commits treason is not fulfilling his duty to the Emperor, which includes not committing treason. A commissars duty is to execute the traitor or to die, either way a Rogue Traitor does not have any authority because he is a traitor.
A Rogue Trader is a peer of the imperium, a Commissar is not. Either way the Commissar still has to fight through an army of armsmen to try and impose judgement on the RT, and the Commissar is not part of the Imperial Guard command structure.
What must be done is not as significant as the very fact that it must be done.
Iconclast with occasional Dogmatic sprinkled in when you need to put your foot down.
"Wandering at large throughout the Calixis Sector and the Koronus Expanse, these lavishly appointed warships are the result of a rare collaboration between the Imperial Navy and the Ecclesiarchy. Each one is the ultimate expression of the shipwright’s craft, with fresh and sweet scented air, lovely trappings, pleasing, soothing sounds piped over the shipboard vox, kilometres of stained glass and workstations made of precious stones and rare alloys. Crewed and captained by condemned and penitent Imperial Navy officers, voidmen, and the occasional Rogue Trader, penance ships cruise as system patrol craft, protecting Imperial (and specifically Ministorum) assets in places where the Navy cannot commit the time or resources to do so themselves.
While surrounded by staggering opulence, the penitents are able to enjoy it only from afar. Beneath each supple uniform a penitent wears a harsh, chafing garment, a body glove made of materials that abrade the skin and cause constant pain whenever the penitent moves. They wear filter plugs in their noses so that they may not smell the sweetness in the air, sound-deadening earplugs to keep out the soothing sounds of the vox, and thick gloves that allow them to go about their duties while keeping them from touching the pleasant surfaces of their workstations. Each ship is permanently sealed, with the only escape being death or the fulfilment of the penance. To enforce this, the outer decks are patrolled and defended by savage servitors called arco-flagellants, each a penitent in their own right.
While the majority of those suffering this privation do so voluntarily, taking up by the penitent’s garb as a way to repent for their transgressions before they go to their God-Emperor, more than one Naval Officer or Rogue Trader has found themselves locked away in a penance ship against their will.
>...Rogue Trader has found themselves locked away in a penance ship against their will
Get fricked.
I would simply wait for my Eldar Banshee Harem Deathsquad and they'd bust me out.
Literally not in the military dumb shit.
Commissars are political officers.
Reminder that if you don't reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep tonight
I'm coming for you Kunrad
wtf is this real?
Obviously dude, haven't you played an Owlcat game before? I'll never forget how Wrath of the Righetous starts with Seelah kneeling on Anevia's throat for 8 minutes and then telling her that all spymasters are bastards.
>I'll never forget how Wrath of the Righetous starts with Seelah kneeling on Anevia's throat for 8 minutes and then telling her that all spymasters are bastards.
Bitch.
Konrad pls go
…
frick you
What did you guys do with the strikers on Depot 4?
Passed the coercion check to have them stand down without giving them weapons
Can you homosexuals shut up about the commissars?
It's just bait at this point
Ignore him and move on
commissssssars are tools, so as BG3 players
>rpg that finally lets you blam free of moralgay lectures
>playing as anything but dogmatic
>tfw iconoclast, dogmatic or heretic don't really fit a self serving crime lord character
wouldn't that be kind of the point? that a selfish crime lord wouldn't really hold any strong ideals?
Yeah but the game punishes you for it like in ME
I agree
The game is missing a true AnCap no morals option
You mean Heretical?
Because you just described Heretical
Heretical is the evil doom your soul for chaos option
That's a strong moral choice just not a good one
If you're not serving the emperor or helping his people you're a heretic. Simple as.
No, the big end-of-act Heretical choices are evil doom your soul for Chaos options
The small ones are just shit like working with pirates and other ancap stuff
It sounds pretty heretical to me.
You meet self serving crime lords in the game of all three varieties. Being dogmatic can be perfectly self serving, for example, when you just don't want some dumb fricks to turn your planet into demontown. That's where you keep your shit.
Literally 90% of the heretic options are this
The last 10% is overdosing on Tzeentch magic
Bounce between three so you have no strong conviction.
Yeah, it's what I am doing but the game words things in ways my character really wouldn't
I'm fine with it, I get why they went with these three alignments given the setting, but it triggers my autism
I'm not, how come the "center" option between being an imperialcuck or a chaostard is being goody two shoes? Where is the center selfish/evil option?
Iconoclast means you're putting people first, that's pragmatic because now you have their loyalty to YOU, not to the empire, not to chaos, they're YOUR legion now
I guess selfish evil always end up becoming chaos
Don't forget in the universe being an hedonist has becoming literally corrupted by slaanesh as a direct consequence
Ambition would be tzeench's domain, so perfectly in line with the plot.
The game also puts iconoclast on the same tier as heretical, they could do the same thing with this new alignment
The selfish options are always the Chaos ones.
Which means to be a self serving bastard you need at least 15 Chaos points
Holy frick
Wotr was power fantasy and Rogue Trader is power fantasy on the scale of 40K
I usually play good guy but everything is so big you're just insanely powerful and life is so insignificant that I feel like I'm starting to choose heretical and other questionable options in dialogues
And I think it's a great accomplishment for owlcat because they made you feel even more powerful than in wotr and you become a fricking god there
It's different, in wotr you have insane personal power, as in, you can kick the shit out of demigods with your bare hands, and that's where your political power mostly comes from.
Here it's just political power, a completely different kind of thrill
argenta romance?
>no tau fire warrior companion
>no tau fire warrior wife
>no tau fire warrior strike team harem
I just want T'au weapons and armor, they're the coolest design to me. I know a lot of people like the gothic shit but T'au get that right dose of reasonable and sci fi
weeb
Yes, the T'au who use stuff based on near future rather than hard fiction science are the weebs, not the edgy race that shoot ninja stars
tau are weebs, yes. eldar are creepy forest gnomes in space. if you think they're weebshit you're fricking moronic.
Isn’t the weeb thing just because of the mechs? It’s why I got into them back in the day
The pauldrons aren't massive, and look vaguely like samurai armor, and they have mechs. That's it, the species of chuunis
they have the earth, fire, water, air thing with their castes and the fire caste has basically a Bushido code
I would rather have a necron warrior phalanx
begone noselet
Tabletop has T'au, they are probably just saving it for a paid DLC
>this small group of Fire Warriors from the 4th Sphere Expanse got stranded in the Koronus Expanse! One will join you as you help them do ttheir bullshit
Call the DLC "Greater Good" or some other crap
Cassia caviar
I mean I'm not far in but dogmatic is seriously the only option that makes any fricking sense ever.
>"bro this world is about to become a daemon world, we have time to evacuate a few people or blow it up"
Looking through datamined items there's an entire set of Tempestus armor and their signature weapon. Now if only there was some info on where to get them.
>toybox
>search and pick
>type the name of the item you want
>click add
Done
There are multiple hotshots. You can find one of them on the planet with the poisoned atmosphere. The armor is just everywhere but it's heavy so you need the proficiency to use it.
your hobby belongs to us now
Neither Rogue Traders nor Inquisitors are immune to the consequences of their actions.
An Inquisitor gets fragged in Fall of Cadia for trying to halt the evacuation.
if I just keep doubling down on my devotion to Chaos consequences will never hit me 🙂
The Months of Shame is a great example of how much authority the Inquisition can exert over others but also about how loyal warriors of the Imperium can and will kill Inquisitors when they're pushed too far
imagine a blade forged of eldar poop
>Text edits against Abelard, Idira, and especially Cassia
>But none about Yrliet
Hmmmmm
Because cuckposters think relationships are nothing but sex and her romance doesn't have any
She has plenty of sex with Marzipan tho
He's implying they're yrlietgays who are eternally seething
Yrliet is the last of those characters you meet, they haven't gotten there yet
I sure haven't
I lost my vilitch memes
Have another
Thanks
*Eats your universe*
>release buggy game
>first week and already dozen bugs found
>zero communication
What a fricking failure of a studio. Yeah I know another Larian comparison but compare this to how they respond to bugs and get to work on it ASAP. Releasing a game and then going silent is peak moron move even by a slavshit studio.
What the FRICK is this Aurora fight? Everyone is saying this game is a cakewalk, but this fricker wipes half my team in one turn with his 3000 AP.
I really should dunk for spoilers sake but we got schizogod kino? based if true
>Mechanicus fleet arrives just above my capitol and demands to speak to me face to face
>Won't explain why
>Accuse my based cogfricker of heretek
>The main prosecutor is a guy who is experiencing maximum pain 24/7 and screams constantly
>Has no evidence to back up his claim and refuses to provide any
>His side buddy is an old fart tech priest that provides 3 synonyms for every word he says
>Ragetard refuses to communicate and just tries to bash my cogfricker's head in but gets his balls zapped first
>Obviously we fight now
>Old fart has to get out of dodge first since he's just an old-timey number cruncher
>Because it's an Owlcat game I have to wait for him to physically walk off screen
>He hobbles slower than a geriatric WW2 veteran with Parkinson's
>Takes a full minute for him to walk off screen
>Fight happens
>Once it's over it takes another full minute for him to walk back on screen
This game is fricking kino
Has anyone else did this short mission?
I can't open the door even with the key? Am I missing something or is it bugged?
Is it the key from the beginning of the mission or near the end?
I mean, I ASSUME it's the one you get after you kill the goddamn boss because it's a post win reward.
That's the one for the locked chest inside, there's another on a body near the beginning of the mission.
Mother fricker.
I thought I'd looted that.
>people are discovering how high end imperial politics work
half inquisitors are heretical
most high magus delve into heretek
rogue traders trafick xeno and heretical shit regularly
they get away with it cause killing those people would be a political shitstorm and those with power to do anything about it have their own seketons in the closet so they cant really complain too loudly and theyre very good at keeping it hidden
if a commisair, lower rank inquisitor or some such found out, he would be disapeared before he could do anything about it
and believe me, people in power have the means to do stuff like that
In my wargames victory is always achieved because these seditious elements have all been rooted out.
Without eradicating the fifth collumn corrupting and poisoning our glorious nation we cannot hope to gain the living space required for the triumph of our master race.
good luck doing that to the mechanicus
It's literally just one guy who is massively butthurt over the fact that he got called out for claiming that commissars cannot become rogue traders, ignore him and move on.
I didn't claim that. I said that it is wrong to put a commissar as a rogue trader because of the categorical differences in what they are.
The fact you morons started talking about rogue traders recruiting commissars, giving commissars orders and that writs can be given to anyone instead of just acknowledging that giving writs to commissars is a misguided waste of both the writ and the commissar is entirely on you.
>I didn't say that I said the same thing but in an autistic way
Keep coping, autismo. You lost and commissars are a joke.
You really don't know the difference between what you can do and what you should do?
Is this what you ancap libertarians are all like? Is this why you gravitate to the rogue trader fantasy?
>you ancap libertarians
Holy schizo.
>Is this what you ancap libertarians are all like? Is this why you gravitate to the rogue trader fantasy?
Do you seriously personally identify with something as absurd as 40k? You know that the Emperor isn't real, right?
The Emperor may not be real but every day that humanism doesn't depose humanitarianism as our global religion is a day of defeat for our race.
>off-topic garbage
Frick off.
Even worse the emperor is bullshit in setting
This anon thinks politics in 40k are actually real, lmao.
>half inquisitors are heretical
We prefer the term "radical"
call them whatever you want, the moement you shove a c'tan shard up your arse or lodge a farseer soulgem into your skull, you might have gone off the deep end
>Abelard, just relax a little bit, we need to figure out where the cultist is
>KILL ALL OF THEM
Just cool off bro that's what they want man
I love that the dialogue doesn’t hold back at all, you need a phd in 40k lore to understand anything that’s happening. Secondaries btfo
Yet I feel a lot of options are exactly for newbies tho, like at the very beginning there's an option to ask how the ship works or what a navigator is which is nonsense given your possible backgrounds
can you not leave/escape space combat? I keep getting stuck in fights where the enemy just flies away but never teleports out and it's getting fricking tedious.
>spent 30 minutes respeccing MC
>don't even know if i want the new build I respecc'd to
honestly I feel like I'm wasting my time this early in the game
You're also wasting your free respecs, they start costing profit factor after a while
Hey guys I have an actual question about the game and commissars. Are they considered underpowered? Their abilities are weird, man. Any worthwhile synergy? How about for priest? Those two don't seem to be picked for power reasons. More like thematic reasons while biting the bullet.
The commissar ability isn't too great but their statline is perfect for a melee officer.
they work well for warriors too
They do, but I think Navy works best for that.
maybe but you don't get the cool jacket
psyker with a lot of melee/tanking passives seem like they might be cool. walking around on fire with stacking armor buffs dotting everything up and pulsing aoe damage constantly. it's a lot of points spent on those though.
Commissar death worlder warrior assassin fricks HARD in melee
I went Crime Lord Death World Warrior. Was hoping to go full khornate ragetard.
Would probably work too
There's no pure melee damage companion so it's a good niche for (You) to fill
They cost PF after a while
You have a few freebies at the start
Nice. Do you use the Commissar abilites much with it or just for the statline?
Both
Commissar is great, anything that improves action economy is S tier and Commissar basically gives allies a free Officer bonus turn once per fight
A warrior commissar wants to pair up with one other melee fighter who can benefit from At All Costs, but frankly you really want to have two melee fighters in your party anyway so you can get melee superiority buffs
The statline is great for Warriors, and the abilities make you a sort of off-Officer for free since Commissar's ability costs 0 AP
It's literally free action economy
I think commissar is the weakest origin
Priest is really good though
It does a lot more damage, but it doesn't have the wide AOE flamer attack. Worth?
why not have both the aoe flamer and the jet flamer?
i also need a weapon with more range
Are respecs unlimited? I'm still figuring out the good setup to play.
Someone post all of Cassia's endings, i wanna see them
This but all of them, are they compiled somewhere?
Too many fake screenshots flying around these threads, I wouldn't trust anything I don't see in my own game
Here is one
for fricks sake I really should stop opening these
frick
Iconomatic for me.
70/30 Icon/Dogema split
why is dual wield a sword and a gun such a cool aesthetic
Ch4 and quest bugs started appearing.. Frick you owlcat. every single time. I will never buy your game on release again.
>Can only make them give up if you go to the planet first
>Party is injured from the fight in the warehouse
This is gonna be an absolute slog, may as well circle around and start the fight from elsewhere so I'm not surrounded.
I assumed Cassia was utterly fricked if you didnt' do her first. Some rebels being talked down isn't worth it
I did the prison rock first and Cassia was okay when I found her? I managed to talk her down with just an iconoclast prompt
I do her first because you can save her servants and she's happier to have her servant on the ship and I want my mutant freak to be happy so I can put my psyker seed in her faster and make total Tzeetch worthy freaks
Oh nah you can save her for last the station just goes to absolute shit with all the soldiers turning into mutants and getting bonus health and armour plus poison attacks so the fights are way harder. It may screw up romancing though.
>rebelslog
>the fight with the cult
>the fight in the sewers
>the fights in the fusion reactor
This whole planet is just running the gauntlet and I feel like it isn't over yet
I only get 1 free respec, is that in total or per character?
You can get unlimited respecs if you open your save file in a text editor and change the values to whatever you need
You get more than 1 free, around 5 or 6.
What's your Rogue Trader about?
>Noble bastard with a chip on his shoulder about the way nobility treats those who are less than, mostly pragmatic and self-interested, but takes opportunities to twist the knife in nobles and protect the downtrodden.
Becoming increasingly corrupted by power, delusional, paranoid, relies on Idara's prophecies, wants to be seen as a God
>Commissar haunted by the men they've lost over the years who goes above and beyond for their men but stays dogmatic when dealing with everyone else
Actively heretical Psyker who's trying to see how long he can keep getting away with it.
Extreme Dogmatic Commissar who gained the attention of the Rogue Trader through his exploits. Just doing a stereotypical PRAISE THE EMPEROR type character
Telepath psyker who sees the good and evil with people and moves them around like chess pieces (Officer origin)
Female noble in it for the money, will sell xenotech but not put up with chaos bullshit that eats into profits
Fanatical psychopath bordering on heretical in her devotion to the God Emperor
>Criminal Lord who, now that he has genuine power, tries his best to be moderate instead of extreme. Bit of a romantic who tries his best to thread the line between genuinely noble and a dogmatic c**t since he knows how the Imperium roll. HATE Chaos, is okay with xenos.
Ciaphas Cain but he got the bad ending (Beaten half to death by Regiment) before becoming a Rogue Trader.
>Oh frick my ship got mangled badly, and I lost most of my essential cadre
>I have no access to FTL travel, and machinery won't even start, because irreplaceable super-specialists responsible for that shit are dead
>And at this bumfrick nowhere of the galaxy, it's not guaranteed that suitable replacement for them exists in at least 200ly radius
>Oh shit is that a magos and a navigator simultaneously in the same system I am stranded at?
>I'm probably just fricking lucky, you know what I am going to do next, I'm gonna drag both around with me on foot, to help me in gun fights
Imagine having nonsensical situation like this in the game and still being bothered about it being lore inaccurate or something. It is given that severe concessions are made.
Pasqal is just the only independent Magos in the area the Explorators have a bunch that can fill the role. Cassia being the only option is moronic but more a plot convenience thing since there's actually 3 Navigators in the system and the other two morons are busy murdering each other.
I got that shit on Rykard Minoris with the blind buttholes freaking out in turn based so it's probably one of the character models stuck partially in a wall and constantly moving.
Anon, you get an apparition Tzeentch literally gloat about you following the plan and how everything has been arranged for you. What exactly did you not understand?
gee it's almost like some impossibly intelligent and influential is arranging things specifically so things work out for you
>Five minutes earlier, a magical demon voice literally tells you that it has orchestrated a number of unlikely factors to draw you towards the fate it has designed for you
>After learning that the specialists you need are within the system, the game literally says "Hey, remember five minutes ago when a magical demon voice literally told you that it has orchestrated a number of unlikely factors to draw you towards the fate it has designed for you?"
>Anon still can't put together the toddler toy sized puzzle pieces
Are you moronic?
a warp entity literally says that you are its new pet project
I've personally made sure to shoot every single traitor trader in the universe, so you can stop trying to use that as a misguided egoistic flex.
Anyone else have some annoying constant banging on the ship bridge?
it's me. i am banging 🙂
cut it out, i'm trying to hit on the fish
That's just Pasquel banging a toaster, ignore it
yes that seems to be a common issue
those are the demons in your head, stop being heretical and it'll clear right up
Let me in bro, please let me in.
I can hear the voices too, brother.
STOP CALLING ME LAYPERSON, Black person! THAT TERM IS ONLY FOR OTHER LAYPEOPLE TO USE IT'S OFFENSIVE
i am ready to administer a sedative, please hold still layperson
YOU MAY NOT SAY LAYPERSON THATS OUR WORD YOU MAY SAY LAYPPA
where do I go to get spoonfed builds so I don't frick my playthrough up?
not that kind of game. read all of the talents
unlike in pathfinder, most of the talents seem good (except the ones that raise your skills for no fricking reason. Who the frick takes those?)
Just play normal difficulty. The game gives warning for trying to start on difficulty where fricking up build is a problem.
Nowhere.
I'm the first person to figure out this game.
Ecelebs.
This dude has a bunch of good guides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dj6-Vxj1es
It's really hard to mess up a character. The level ups are small and frequent but not incredibly impactful and you get a fair bit of talents. Just hop in and read.
idk Anon, I'm running the maximum dodge and enemies just seem to say "no it's zero" whenever they want. Ironically at this point you're probably better off running a team of Sanctic Psykers all using voice of the Emperor so Heinrix can max your damage reduction to 244% with Pasqal intervention.
Basically, Unfair is all kinds of bullshit and it really feels like I'm just praying my warrior meat wall lasts long enough for my Operatives to get that 50-80 damage per shot groove. Also occasionally things will just break and usually to your disadvantage. I know for a fact that if I dropped the difficulty down any, I'd faceroll everything. In Beta my Assassin basically couldn't be hit, that said, it was easier to stack buffs and almost anyone could easily reach 90 HP, now only Cassia can easily do it, but it is still possible with the others.
So whats unsafe mean when warp travelling?
I havent had anything happen yet
I wouldn't worry about it :^)
Why is this dude not sperging out about a psyker rogue trader too
Psyker RT is based, psykers are the future of humanity
>is a blank in your path
What now, psyker man?
>Abelard shoot him
Blank should have been an origin. But I imagine that would frick with the Chaos factions you fight and their attempts to manipulate you.
we can hope for dlc I suppose, would definitely like a blank character and an ork
>tfw no blank companion who is just like "i dunno what you gays are on about, i don't smell anything" while some greater frickhead of nurgle is pissing toxic sludge all over the bridge
Aren't blanks so impossibly rare and so required by certain special services within the Imperium for their own purposes, rogue trader would just be told to frick off when trying to get one, and it would be wise for one to actually frick off, because you don't want to antagonize assassination department or, emprah forbid, whatever is responsible for blanks used in golden throne security?
Aside of that, would be cool, but it would also turn frickton of game mechanics upside down so they decided to not bother.
Nobody except the literal highest authorities of the Imperium can tell a Rogue Trader to "frick off", when does it get through your thick skulls? Not even an Inquisitor can just command them around.
didn't Theodora come to Koronus precisely because an inquisitor ordered her to
That's not quite it, but that would be a spoiler.
Wrong on both accounts. Some random Inquisitor is not higher in rank than a High Lord of Terra, not even close, and the Inquisition has no direct authority over Rogue Traders.
a high-ranking Inquisitor can absolutely frick up a High Lord's day, and Rogue Traders are 100% subject to their authority. They get a lot more leeway than most, but if an Inquisitor thinks an RT is up to some mischief, the Warrant won't protect them.
The highest ranking Inquisitor in the entire Imperium is literally one of the High Lords himself, you dumb frick.
The inquisition lord says he cannot order you to do anything as that goes against the warrant but he can offer "advice"
It all depends on who wrote the warrant and ours is stamped by Big E
>a high-ranking Inquisitor can absolutely frick up a High Lord's day
lol no
Inquisitors are basically sector level and below. They're wandering magistrates to troubleshoot and cut red tape.
The High Lords are so many levels above them it's like a detective trying to walk up and arrest the president.
It's even funnier because one of the High Lords is the highest ranking Inquisitor himself, so that detective can't call for help either.
The Inquisitor-Lord asked her to. The implication is that the Inquisitor-Lord will owe her a favor for this. It's always good to have the Inquisition owing you a favor.
Well you can replace him with heinrix at some point, assuming the idiot doesn't surprise his gf with "I retired for you!!"
Inquisitors are literally the highest authorities inthe Imperium and can in fact command them around
Lorelet.
No, they cannot. They do not have the authority to do so. At best they are on just enough equal footing that Inquisitors can ruin their day by trying to work parallel to them, but they cannot just say 'do this'. They have far, far, far more resources than an Inquisitor can even dream of and money buys power.
Rogue traders are on par with Inquisitors. They have carte blanc to do nearly anything. An inquisitor can investigate them if they''re a threat to the imperium but thats it
LORD Inquisitor = Rogue Trader authority-wise.
That Lord prefix is very, very important.
*BLAM*
Another Inquisitard down, praise Fenrir
Why are you quoting my post that BTFO the Inquisition fanboys?
You looked like a nerd so I had to shoot you, sorry
How about you show this nerd a good time, wolfy boy? owo
I think he means that Spessyiffs hate the Inquisition and would kill them all day every day if they had the chance.
I don't like spessyiffs much but our opinions on the matter coincide.
>Had the entire Inquisition and Grey Knights at their world
>Called them to surrender and let them massacre "tainted" civilians
>Refuses to let them massacre innocent civilians
>Proceed Months of Shame
Space Wolves showed the inquisition what an Space Marine legion looks like and royally fricked them up.
RTs rank up there with Inquisitors, Spess Mehren Chapter Masters and other lord-level members of Imperial Society, and they're less obliged to be orthodox than the other two.
>rogue trader would just be told to frick off when trying to get one
There is no such thing, unless the RT is asking for something truly outrageous, like a Chapter Master.
Some blanks escape the notice of the higher ups in the Imperium and end up in lesser posts where they are nonetheless able to serve a vital role. Now whether one could be a rogue trader without that coming to light is another matter.
Another thing is that blanks tend to be hated and feared by everyone because of being blanks (it's like not having a soul, very unnatural for normies and even worse for psykers). Would be funny to have a blank RT though.
Not really. They aren't common, but with how many psykers exist they are certainly around. The SIsters of Silence are all blanks.
One interesting (probably retconned by now) bit of lore was that the Emperor had flesh and blood descendants and, by some quirk of genetics, they were ALL blanks. The few direct blood relatives of the most powerful human psyker had no psychic potential at all.
The Rogue Trader is like the Vice President and the Emperor is like the president. Everybody gotta do what he says
problem is, everone else is also the vice president
and the presiden has no way to say whos more special
>Says nothing in your path
Also having one with the RT isn't improbable because for a long time they had no funding or support and just went around in secret daemon-hunting squads.
This would actually be an interesting contrast to the battle sister and the witch. I'd bring her along.
Because I'm pretty sure that he's intentionally trying to frick these threads up.
he's jealous that commissar gets the best drip
Can you please stop feeding the commissar autismo? I'm glad that we finally had two threads without the usual Lariangay shitposting.
>Guessed the Cenobium prayer on the first go
Well that's neato
>first playthrough
>heretic warrior
Announcing myself as the new favourite of some daemon or whatever in front of Aurora sure made Argenta and Heinrix curious. I fully expect over half of my party members try to kill me at some point.
I'm definitely going some kind of psyker heretic on my second run
Hotshot was the way to go, lads. Leave the heavy bolter with Argenta.
What did you guys do at the pirate funeral?
I'm trying to play my guy real pragmatic-like. Lots of evil shit happening everywhere, but oh well that's the imperium, I guess. But then I got to the final part of that funeral and these guys are fondly reminiscing about all the shit they did to that servitor woman and her family, the son is laughing about how fun it was to kick her while she shambled around their home as a servitor who still had her memories and was able to feel pain, and my guy suddenly had an epiphany, a revelation from the god emperor himself.
Everybody at that funeral needed to die, right away.
I got bamboozled into jumping into a crematorium then came back and murdered them all for 2 PF
What's the trigger for that quest
I got it in the beta and not yet here
someone said there's an equipment that applies Grand Strategist buffs to the entire battlefield, where the FRICK is that
Glad that the game take the setting more seriously and it is not full off cringe humour.
The setting itself is the humour
It's full of obvious jokes but they're only obvious to us but make complete sense to people in the setting
I am reading every skill I can get before I decide what my party does at lvl 16. Do I make my 2 operators both into assassins, or maybe just my sniper into an assassin and pasqual into a bounty hunter. Seems like 2 bounty hunters could benefit if we all mark preys and get the trait where we still get bonus if any ally kills one. Critical chain only seems good for melee heavy party. But some of the assassin traits I think I can restore AP on kill so combined with an officer ult I could just shoot infinite 1ap attacks at 20 trash mobs and if they each hit i just keep going.
And vanguard seems tanky but both subclasses seem kinda meh for warrior.
I made Yrliet into a Bounty Hunter and Pasqal into a Grand Strategist and Idira into a space popsicle
Based, I'm still waiting for the moment I can dogmatically rid myself of Idira
wow i will never abandon her even if shes a heretic, who else is gonna warn me with cryptic symbolism? fishfu only reads the colors of peoples auras.
Assassin seems to synergise best with melee. It's where I put Heinrix and now he's a monster. Bounty hunter works best on pasqual with him stacking debuffs
Can you corrupt some of your party members? Worshipping these Chaos gods seems much more fun than some corpse sitting on a throne.
>worshipping anything
the only obligation I have is to my crew and the commonwealth of the imperium
Guys, i dont think Cassia romance is bugged.
She just doesnt have enough time for Rogue Trader.
they are both autists with zero social awareness. it makes sense they'd spend time together doind autistic things. i think that out of all companions cassia would be the one to be the most genuinely interested in playing catan
Based. The RT would be able t rope abelard into playing
is this true. Well I guess elf chads stay winning.
yes, it's 100% true. I just had this scene. had to throw cassia out of the airlock for touching my man and got stranded in the warp. but it was worth it. no one touches what is mine
>Heretic
I understand roleplaying, but there's still that part of metagame knowledge of being aware that basically any chaos follower is guaranteed to end up as fodder for upper parts of the food chain, which doesn't allow to take it seriously. The lower cutoff to not end up as fodder is level of named chaos marines, what hope can average tard have? If there's "good" (from player's egoistic perspective) ending for heretic, it must be asspull of the same scale as secret ending in WotR.
So.. was I suppose to hit up all those other plants in Chapter 1 before going to visit the Governer a second time?
I feel like I fricked up
you dont miss much.
my path was get cassia
go to governer planet. go to electric church there. go back. decided to wrap stuff up
go to pirate ship in bottom right. you can sell them some stuff for reputation and take some items (none looked good), I sold most stuff to the guy next to governor and got some cape and helmet instead.
went to prison planet. super easy low lvl mobs. warden went crazy and its just like on the planet sewers with the strange lens.
theres a 'good' dagger you can find there (for that low level area).
And in the bottom left is a crashed dead alien ship with spikes you can find and loot for some cargo and not let the crew die if you pass a skill check. not even a place to land or explore.
I wish they've removed all the moronic dialogue options
>gee, high factotum, why are we selling all the loot to other people?
Black person, because you're a trader, it's what you fricking do. sell trash that is useless to you, to people who might need it
>gee, person who can see the future, how did you know who I am?
my character is an unironic moron.
Journos are already complaining about the game being too difficult, the least they can do is throw them a bone in regards to dialogue.
>intentionally choose to say moronic things
>get mad when it makes your character sound moronic
skill issue
it's for players who are entirely unfamiliar with 40K
>my navy officer asking what a navigator is/does
At least Theodora berates you for asking something so stupid
well you should stop self inserting then
You do realize if you don't take them your character doesn't ask?
It's for people who are rping as a moron / are moronic IRL
>It's for people who are rping as a moron
why would theodora want a moron like that anywhere near her empire though
Well, she didn't know you were a moron maybe
her only other choice was a lanky psyker she wanted options
>xenos? goould?
Total Yrliet Love
So what is this game?
It's Warhammer right? I've never played a Warhammer game but always wanted to get in. Is it an RTS like the others or more of a turnbased RPG?
it is a crpg
Is Warrior the best archetype? Not because of tanking, but because of how many actions they get.
No, because it is not Officer.
What makes officers better than soldiers/warriors?
An officer can give his turn to a warrior, or to an operative, or to a soldier
A soldier can only be a soldier.
The versatility of the officer is insane, each turn you have several different lines of action you can choose to go with
>Seize the Initiative feat for free extra turn before enemies get to do anything
>abilities to highly buff ALL stats + Resolve for easy and fast Heroic Actions
>ability to grant extra turn to any ally including with no attack limit and 1 AP refresh per kill
All that without allowing enemies to do anything even on Unfair
Soldier>Arch-Militant can shoot like a billion times in one turn
The officer's ult you get later called a heroic deed restores the movement and AP and gives a turn to another character where they can make as many attacks as they want. So they are quite powerful. But you gotta charge up the momentum meter so they can use it.
But Warriors/Soldiers get an ability that also gives them an extra turn.
Officer Ult also boosts the companion you give it to. 4 swords swings/2 cleaves with +4 damages adds up.
The non-officer heroic thing also provides boosts.
Not on that level.
what romance for homogay like me?
A bullet to the head
BG3.
only a coldsteel the edgehog elf who can not be fixed
Slaanesh you degenerate
Bdsm knife-ear and yes only getting an abusive relationship is not a meme
you get a torture elf and nothing else
as is fitting for your kind
Janus, Dargonus or Kiava first?
Janus is on the way to the other two and gets you Yrliet who wrecks shop
Janus. It's along the way to either.
Janus is the food supply, without it everything else collapses.
Unironically more important than the capital if you can choose only one
Surely I can have Yrilet and Marazhai at the same time?
>give abelard a greatsword and watch him wreck shop
Boy does Heinrix become a simp with no spine around a female mc
>let slaaneshi governor live
>Heinrix more concerned with his boss being grumpy at the rogue trader then the heretical lady
Actual words
>he isn't concerned you broke the law
He's terrible at his job
it's why virgins should never be put anywhere near important positions. a crumb of pussy is all it takes for them to throw it all away
Not to worry, I have a permit
>the Warrant of Trade is so big it needs it's own fricking room
I should've seen that coming
>find the warrant expecting it to be some sort of parchment in a display case
>It's a giant fricking slab
consider the size of the one who wrote it
God-Emperor, I fricking kneel.
That was Owlcat either being dramatic or it was decoration, the writ itself is small enough to fit in a safe.
>the writ itself is small enough to fit in a safe
It is, you can also fit in the safe in question though
the emperor is a big guy
not THAT big
4(0k)u
so uh, theordora seems to be a bit of a heretic
Is there a talent to let you fire normal weapons while threatened by melee?
Yeah but I think only Arch-Militant can get it
Arch Militant has a passive for it, Vanguard can give to allies as a buff, there's probably other ways
Navy officer gets this option as well as shouting at them to get away from you
biggest bawd in this game?
Jae
>Respecs start costing profit factor after a while
Frick you, Owlcat. I had to spend those respecs because you put talents in the game that don't even work.
Bro, your toybox?
>talents in the game that don't even work
which ones?
who is doing this shit in the catalog?
Chaos.
I don't see anything weird, what do you mean?
yeah i don't see anything
>space-born naval background hunter
>use fish to gain large amounts of hit/crit on sniper rifle
Is nice
If i change my portrait with a respec will it also chnage the portrait in my bedroom?
What's the best team buffing officer build? I want to make someone who spends all their AP on buffing and ordering people around because he's too good for combat.
just use fish for that
fish is for using Navigator powers, not Officering
Fair enough. Can a sanctioned psyker ever go unsanctioned? Fricking Idril always has better shit than me and it pisses me off.
You might have a lucky encounter and find one in the wild. Blanks are less obvious than psykers. It wouldn't be out of the question for a RT to have some blank on his bridge in case of vile xenos sorcery. Maybe train him/her to be a concubine so he has a reason to keep the blank around at all times.
Idira exponentially increases your chances of a surprise Chaos Spawn so there's a trade-off
No bloody wonder, I had one barge in during the warehouse fight. Killed it without much issue though.
Hive world (so you can dump willpower) noble officer. Go all out on talents which scale with fellowship, pump fellowship. My officer rarely fires a shot between buffs and giving extra turns to everyone
The patch is supposed to come out this week, but the question is, which day?
Saturday, screenshot this post.
I can't wait that fricking long
do Owlcat patches brick saves?
No, outdated mods do, but this game literally has no mods other than toybox which is going to update immediately
what is a blank
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=40k+blank
someone that basically shortcircuts warp usage around them
What I shoot.
sex with fish sex with fish sex with fish sex with fish sex with fish
I free like Pyromancer/Sniper isn't a good combo. I wanted to sling spells from far away but i'm too far to ignite people
Can I sell all that loot I've been picking up or should I drop it all?
you convert it into cargo and then sell the cargo
Is Slaanesh the first canonically futa character in mainstream western media?
the sad truth is, if things are to improve for the galaxy, humans and eldar HAVE to join forces
gulliman knows this
yinnead followers know it
eldrad knew it, and orchestrated things to go the way they did
and the big problem is not just chaos
theres a way, way, larger problem just outside the galaxy
For things to improve for humans, humans would require to do a long list of things that will make 40k setting stop being 40k setting. The entire point of that setting is humanity being in the state of relative post-apocalypse, out of which it can no longer get due to extreme environmental pressure from various factors. For example, it is locked out of any society which isn't obscurantist theocracy that beats you on your head with prayers every day, because one of existential threats employs mental corruption as main vector, and nothing else can counter that on a large scale.
>no dark angel space marine/initiate follower
Like yeah their storyline would be about the fricking fallen but I really like the space knights esthetic
the twist would be it was cypher in disguise
or alpharius
or omegon
>cypher decides to dick around with a rogue trader for the lulz
>no option to mention to the Governor of the first planet that I had to kill a Herald of Tzeentch and there's warp corruption everywhere
No wonder the Imperium is being fricked in the arse every microsecond
Lore (Xeno): 85 (Success)
What IS a Xeno?
That's my problem with crpgs in general. I never get dialogue options that let express what I actually want to say. It's especially annoying when a character asks you to justify yourself and none of your options come close to the reason you had actually did it. The roleplaying aspect of crpgs has never been good.
Traps and environmental hazards that you have to slowly walk through as they flicker on and off have never added anything of value to any CRPG.
That bolter amulet is such a crutch hot damn. Eldars are pure bullshit tho.
What part of "the Emperor himself gave me this card here that says I can do whatever the frick I want" do you morons not understand?
Can I not loot everyone's body in this one? I'm in the tutorial I guess. Also
>First companion is extremely similar build to me (naval officer melee)
Am I that unoriginal...?
You can, and most of it will go into your cargo to sell later. You'll get dozens of low tier weaponry you just toss in there for rep selling.
You can loot all bodies, the game shows it as a single loot table
>Am I that unoriginal
Yes.
>Aurora will instantly kill at least one character no matter what, can very easily kill two or three
>Right before that is a pack woth two snipers hidinng behind a minefield, pretty much guaranteeing you're going into the fight with trauma
I genuinely don't know what to do here.
>every time it's aurora's turn he walks 30 tiles to line himself up perfectly to hit at least 2 of my characters with the barrage
that was epic
and by epic I mean FRICK CHAOS
have Pasqal and Idira gangbang him with Exploits+Expose Weakness then unleash hell with Argenta
Anon, that would require all three of them living past the literal firsr action of combat, which doesn't happen.
spread them out on the backline and have Abelard whack him to get his attention
First time he won initiative i got wrecked
Second time, Blind from Idira, Enfeeble from Heinrix. Warp Curse from Cassia.... he got git
>idira warns that some rabble are about to attack
>not even worth the effort
>turn one pops her own head and summons a screamer
At least I can see why theodora kept her around
She never fails to warn me about incoming buttholes
funny thing?
this kind of discussion would totaly happen in universe and in lore and would look the exact same
yes the inquisitor would think he has the authorty
the RT would disagree
>Ultimately, ‘authority’ means nothing. Inquisitors can theoretically execute anyone who disobeys them - bar the Custodians who are wholly exempt from scrutiny - this includes Rogue Traders. We had this discussion about Inquisitors and Chapter Masters. Yes, technically the Inquisitor has the ‘authority’ to command the Astartes to war, but in practice a wise Inquisitor knows that it’s best to ask nicely or risk vanishing inside the bowels of some Space Marine ship, never to emerge again (a common fate for those Inquisitors who poke around in the Flesh Tearers or Black Dragons affairs without asking nicely).
>It’s a matter of who fires first and who can keep on firing if it comes to war.
There you go, hope this helps.
>>It’s a matter of who fires first and who can keep on firing if it comes to war.
Sounds like a RT would win 9 out of 10 times then.
the Inquisition has access to resources comparable to RTs, and they can requisition Space Marines and stuff much easier than RTs who basically have to get lucky if they want something high-tier like that
They still have to ask, and RTs also have connections of their own.
>hey this Rogue Trader is summoning daemons all over his realm, can I have some Grey Knights
>yeah alright
>hey this Rogue Trader is summoning daemons all over his realm, can I have some Grey Knights
>do you have proof of this?
Meanwhile, the RT:
>everything in this sector is now mine
>Sorry, 20 other inquisitors are summoning daemons to save the Emperor and all our GKs have been booked for the next 500 years, please make do with this box of purity seals
Like what, the GKs? They work WITH Ordo Malleus, not serve them. Deathwatch does their own thing and like the GKs, they work WITH the Inquisition, not serve them.
Both the Grey Knights and the Deathwatch are literally the military arm of their respective Inquisition Ordos just like the Sisters, they're not independent entities
That's an extreme case, obviously there is a limit a RT can't surpass without being declared an enemy of humanity, not just the inquisition.
fricking around with Chaos is usually the line, they just have the advantage of being really far away from the main Imperium so it can take a while for anyone to notice
thats a case of intrests aligning
>hey this rogue trader is an butthole and get in my way, help me
>lol no
or
>he might be a heretic
>might is not good enough, you have spoken out of line, go to the penis explosion chamber as penance
There is an entire space marine branch dedicated to being the Inquisition's b***hes.
And they have better shit to do than supporting an Inquisitor who's butthurt that a Rogue Trader isn't listening to him.
moronic lorelet.
True, but actual big boy Inquisitors are often busy with other things.
>and they can requisition Space Marines and stuff much easier
I literally just posted something that explained why this is not actually the case. "Authority" means nothing, very few Inquisitors are actually able to mobilize any kind of army at all.
It's exactly the other way around. RTs are the ones with ridiculous resources, while the vast majority of Inquisitors prefer to act alone and in small numbers.
unless the big boys took offence
then his while disnasty would be fricked or he would no longer be a trader anymore
attacking you customers is not a good buissness plan
This, Inquisitors tend to have less personal power than RTs and CHapter Masters since the former have fleets and armsmen and the latter have battleship grade fleets and supersoldier monks for armsmen. That's why they need to ask favors.
>Yes, technically the Inquisitor has the ‘authority’ to command the Astartes to war, but in practice a wise Inquisitor knows that it’s best to ask nicely or risk vanishing inside the bowels of some Space Marine ship, never to emerge again (a common fate for those Inquisitors who poke around in the Flesh Tearers or Black Dragons affairs without asking nicely).
It's literally the same for rogue traders though
What is the inquisitor going to do when I refuse to do what he says and I order him to be thrown out of an airlock?
That was the point, anon.
What are the odds of getting xenos companions in any would be dlc I would also accept an ogryn
dlc companions are already confirmed as an assassin and a cop. No xeno or ogryn sadly
>want to play but keep hearing Cassia romance is bugged
bros how long do i have to wait before they fix it? i really want to play...
My Cassia was bugged but the romance event still fired
Not sure why
the emperor smiled upon you
I'm actually kind of stumped at who I want to use in my party, I'm intrigued at all the different types of responses they'll have since they all have interesting roles within the universe.
>only brings a maximum of 5 other dudes with them
why is our RT moronic?
Because if the RT wasn't moronic he would have 50 guys going into any location ahead of him and that wouldn't be fun (after the first few times)
It's the usual CRPG problem, I have 20 companions but for some reason we can't travel together.
In a game with political power like this the issue is accentuated, because my character could easily walk around with an entire battallion of elite soldiers to guard him but for some reason won't.
I read that you can bring the drukhari along, only to later sacrifice it to a daemonette. Is there a reward for doing this, besides the pleasure of watching that filthy degenerate die screaming?
if you homosexuals are going to talk about plot twists, at least use some fricking spoilers. jesus fricking christ
this is why I can't discuss new games here
I'm out
Highest peak so far
>45,405
why does it fricking matter, my dude?
the doomer autist was hollering that it was a total flop and would never surpass WOTR
I'm glad the numbers are getting higher because I love the game
because if a game doesnt have at least1.2mil players its dead!
it isnt counting all the poor people who pirated it like me
Inquisitors are like CIA agent and Rogue israelite is like FBI agent
that makes zero sense... are the FBI leading colonization into the deep Amazon jungle or the marianas trench?
they probably would be if colonization was still on the table
Not really?
The only real real world analogue we have of Rogue Traders would be the Cossack's during the exploration of Siberia. They had political authority directly from the Tsar and their main goal is to expand the empire to its fullest extent.
Anyone which tried to get into their way had the full might of the russian army fired upon them.
Rogue Traders are pretty much Spanish conquistadores + privateers + East India Company, except I would nuke India instead of colonizing it.
Jesus it was like a clowncar of dudes that ran out of rooms in this space station.
Not pictured is another 15~ guys in a pile.
He's just like me.
I killed Jae for heresy almost immediately, will I miss out on anything
Nothing of value was lost
In a similar vein I DIDNT kill Jae and now people are talking about it. Can I kill her later?
>Sniper RT/ Abelach/ Cassia/Argenta/Heinrix/Pasqal
>Know the space marine is in the game
>Don't know who to drop for him
What do I do...?
No one, that's the ideal team
Argenta. She's not much good at shooting, at least for me. Maybe it's my fault for using the bolter instead of something else.
I gave her metla and she shreds
Got her a heavy bolter + flamer. She does the Emperors work.
Heavy bolter needs a talent, right?
she takes a while to come online but when she does she's insane
>RT's obviously control incredible amounts of resources, entire sectors even
>but what if [extreme outlier case where all available forces of the Imperium would act against him]??
The average Inquisitor holds nowhere near as much power as the average Rogue Trader, that was the point.
This got me thinkin, how much authority does an archmagos hold outside the mechanicus?
Obviously no one wants to frick with the mechanicus, but can they actually step in and order people around?
See
>>It’s a matter of who fires first and who can keep on firing if it comes to war.
It applies to almost every single thing in this setting, including even primarchs.
Well, does this mean the mechanicus wins by default? Can't get anywhere without them, nor keep shiny toys working
If the RT in question happens to have a big standing army at the ready then no. If it's the other way around then yes. Is that really so difficult to understand? Do you think the RT would kill himself because the Archmagos is important for the metagame or something?
Probably about as much as any other high up figure but only in the matters of tech acquisition and repair. That'd be if he even cared
THey don't have much actual authority outside of the MEchanicus, but if an Archmagos asks it would be wise to say yes unless you're absolutely sure you're okay with all your tech suckstarting a shotgun when you need it.
"Military arm" doesn't mean "b***h of every member", you'd have to prove that the RT you're not happy with merits attention beyond the 1001 other things they fight.
a whole fricking lot but for the more tangible reason that if he say so, you dont get any admech support and cant do anything anymore
imperials repect admechs for a reason
he has no intrest in anything unrelated to tech so no one pokes him with innane shit
Depending on the scenario. An Archmagos threatening to recall all techpriests from your sector and ships is not a bluff anyone wants to have the balls to check.
>can't change your archetype or homeworld with respec.
RT has one of the most interesting class designs I've seen
There's no simple warrior or rogue
Everyone has some unique twist
In the beta you could cuck some noble dude, can you still do that?
Yes
>Cassia can suddenly do damage twice in one turn
>no clue why
>every fight is (even more) trivial
cassia can do damage?
she is OP as frick if you spec into all of her navigator shit
Ive been using her to buff my party and give my sniper RT more turns
Well you are using her wrong
Cassia will kill entire groups of enemies on her turn if you start getting her navigator movement abilities
She deletes fricking everything. And repairs the veil while doing it.
If you use officer abilities you have been playing cassia wrong
Officer abilities are free AP...
>Free charge
>Extra turn without mp
No need for that if you can just oneshot them by looking at them with your cute little mutant eye
Officer is broken, but cassia is the one thing more broken than officer
It's still better to pick her up bullshit instead of officer stuff. Extra turn is all you really need anyway. Maybe have her be a grand strategist later.
NTA but thats what I made her
Master tactician is better because tactical points or whatever they are called work with her powers, so you can use them yo oneshot even harder with navigator abilities.
Oh yeah. This bonus is hefty. I'm playing on normal though, so frick it.
Extra Turn + Psyker ability has been my way of playing her, and she hasn't let me down.
STOP IT YOURE PLAYING HER WRONG
just kidding bro play her however you want
There's a staff that lets her do it.
the staff you gave her
If her staff has Devastating she can use her abilities twice in one turn
>Starting over as a different class for the 5th time
God help me I had the same problem with BG3 where I just kept restarting
When do we get jump packs or personal teleporters?
Which companions do you lose going full chaos?
Whole game is poorly balanced, there's no real challenge and class building is extremely barebones.
reminder this is what would happens to you virgin peasants if you tried to seduce Cassia
She only accept big loaded noble wieners
I am literally a noble though
that is actually rather kind by noble standards
What would "ochre" mean to her?
orange. she hates gingers, anon. they have no souls and she sees that
>What would "ochre" mean to her?
Probably Nurgle, it's a vomit yellow color.
Should I take ballistics on officers at all? or go full into the buff autism?
There are some broken things like getting % more damage per stack on your next attack and having stack for every enemy at the start of combat
There's nothing wrong with either, but officers are generally better buffers. You can still shoot between shouting at people, my officer occasionally has a point to whip out a sniper
ok, what other stats except fel are important for officer?
Agi. You want to go first as much as possible.
Int IIRC.
SO I can just loot Heinz for his stuff then?
Heinz is an unoptimized melee Psyker (he should have Pyromancy instead of Sanctic)
BioSanctic Officer is king of the buffs
Why pyromancy? ALso you can get another discipline as a psyker?
IIRC Master Tactician lets you go first
pyromancy is godlike on melee cause it gives your hits innate fire damage if youre on fire and makes being on fire do no damage to you on top of incresing your resolve and PR
also it conceptually hillarious
Reminds me of Mystic Knight in Dragon's Dogma, set yourself on fire and climb onto monsters to frick them up.
I did. RT gives you really high base stats from your origin path. MEanwhile Blacked Crusade and Only War give you a higher skill cap (+30 instead of +20, not including Talented). DH is the only one that keeps your skill bonuses low and that's because the GM is expected to give you low difficulty rolls for trivial shit.
In the RPG they hand out skill advances like candy so yeah.
Magick Archer, not Mystic Knight.
Right, I remembered just after posting.
WHich telepath talents are good for damage? Unfortunately I won't be doing it this playthrough but I will probably try a warrior RT in my next run.
Also which Conviction is best for a psyker? I thought it might be Heretical but I'm not sure.
Pain Channeling and Aftershock.
Pain Channeling makes it so that when you kill something, any excess damage you deal beyond that thing's HP is dealt to the nearest enemy as Mental Damage, Aftershock makes it so that any time you deal Mental Damage to an enemy, it takes half that damage again the next turn.
So if you fire off a Lightning Arc which deals 40 damage into a group of 4 20 HP minions, each of those 20 hp minions will take have 20 excess damage, each of which is transferred to the nearest living enemy. Meaning whoever the nearest living enemy is would, in this case, take 80 points of excess damage.
And then Aftershock means that same enemy takes another 40 damage the next turn.
There's no range or cover limits to Pain Channeling, so you can delete half the encounter with it.
I just assumed it only works on single target shit and didn't take it.
A lot of the Mental Damage attacks are single target, so Aftershock is usually single target only.
But Pain Channeling isn't at all.
Also if you have Backdraft talent from the Pyromancy, that bonus damage will be included as excess damage for Pain Channeling.
So what is a good multiple target mental damage attack?
Well shit. Now I need to stack Pyromancy on that too.
Exterminatus is destroying all life on a planet, if you want to rake a planet's surface with bigass cannon shots, even a single macrobattery would do. I'm not saying RTs can exterminatus planets, but they can easily deliver a North Korea vs Seoul level of bombardment with macrobatteries.
Yep, it's hilariously powerful.
Even burning DoT will trigger Pain Channeling if it kills something, it's just an amazing skill in general.
My favorite is the basic psyker staff Lightning Arc, although later in the game any of the high damage Pyromancy powers work very well too.
What are the best psyker staves in the game for Lightning Arc, then?
Pyromancy has a frickton of melee buffs, almost as many as Biomancy. Pyromancy works amazingly well with either a Warrior or Soldier
And yes, you can get new Psyker disciplines, it takes an ability slot but the talents alone are often worth it
My Soldier Arch-Militant Pyromancer has Telepathy and Sanctic, and often kills everything in an encounter within 1 or maybe 2 turns because he can easily use 4 Psyker attacks per turn and the combo of the Pyromancy and Telepath talents is absurdly OP for damage dealing Sanctic I only took for the +psy level after every heroic action
>Sanctic I only took for the +psy level after every heroic action
Me too lol. Learned of it after I got the inquisitor, and you gotta take it for the PC, too. Obviously.
Fel and WP, nothing else matters. There's a talent so you always go first round, so Agi becomes nowhere near as important, and Int does literally nothing for any of the Officer skills, so you can disregard the first two replies that you've gotten.
you still want AGI so your actual turn comes as soon as possible and you can pop out more buffs
You can't go more than once per turn, it's borderline irrelevant so long as you go first.
isn't it an extra turn akin to your own ability? I could've sworn you go twice
I meant only "once" by default, which is what Agi is for, of course.
>Fel and WP
I'm a hiver so I intent to take a talent that substitues wp for fel though
That's only for resistance checks, sadly. You need WP for the WP bonus on your abilities.
Every stat is worth it but as an officer in the back, you'll probably avoid WS and Strength, as well as most likely Intelligence unless you don't want/have a skill jocket. WP will help you resist things, Agility will help your speed, Toughness will help your HP and resistances, Perception gives you more hit
The only virgin in the party is the Sister, who are Brides to the Emperor. You're wealthy enough to buy a harem of gorgeous virgins at every port, so the chastity of a partner shouldn't be important.
And Cassia
And most likely Yrliet too
Cope Jaegay
Sisters are daughters of the Emperor, not brides. They will just as easily see it as their duty to have 2 dozen children with you because more babies = more imperial subjects
They're daughters of the Emperor, lorelet. That ended a long time ago.
All of the romancable women are virgins except Jae. If Yrliet wasn't she would've mentioned some children, since Eldar pretty much exclusively have sex to procreate.
SoB aren't chaste, they're allowed to have sex
Both cassia and Yrliet are virgins, the screenshot being posted around about Cassias "previous lovers" is a fake made by shitposters.
She was locked in a space station and treated like a child, not even allowed to see visitors to the station
>cassia says some shit about colors
>idira just tells me we are about to get ass fricked
Does Characteristic Training not push a skill past 65? Taking it just results in nothing. For example I'm using it on fellowship, every other CT shows the +5, but fellowship its just empty. It doesn't stop me from taking it, nothing just happens.
the UI is just really buggy for that
No one ever talks about Criminals. Do they suck?
Not at all. High Int Forge World Crime Lords are fricking ridiculous.
Operative crime lord is broken.
operator crime lord
I get so many buffs from fish, idria, my skills are insane
heres an idea
biomancer officer
become the white mage
You'd probably want to throw Sanctic in there too
Master Tactician has a bunch of buffs for healing your companions too
So if the bugs get sorted this is a solid game?
It's excellent game even right now
Like, seriously the best thing I've played in years
these threads have been great
>wade through the sewers after almost getting cremated
>now theres a permanent debuff with no text on my RT
t-thanks...
it's a Fellowship debuff because you smell like shit
Inquisicucks and Rogue virgins fear the High Chads
Is there a way to consistently debuff someone's willpower or resistance tests in general? I'm getting real tired of these frickers resisting Cassia's Point of Curiosity. I've had some hilarious moments with it, especially once you get the staff that lets you cast it twice per round. Things like drawing a bunch of people towards my trio of melee monsters and then using it again to drag them away, prompting a slew of AoO attacks. But goddamn is it frustrating when they resist it.
Telepath has shit that debuffs WP tests if you hit them with Psychic Shriek IIRC.
Can I romance Jae if I dont keep her in my party? I want a brown little fricktoy on the ship but she is useless to me in combat so I dont want to bring her anywhere. Are all of the Romance options done on the ship?
Did anybody play the RT ttrpg? I've played Dark Heresy, Black Crusade, and not Imperium Maledictum and I've never seen skills get this high so easily.
are the merchant stocks for each faction the same over the course of the entire game? because I don't see how I'm gonna get 60 profit factor and lv21 reputation in act 2
I had nearly 100 pf at the end of act 2. Remember to sell planetary information to the explorators.
How do you raise PF
cool but how am I gonna get to level 21 reputation? each level needs exponentially more loot and I barely have enough for two
Colony events, and various other choices and events give you massive boosts to the rep of some factions.
Quests, events, colony events, and contracts.
one thing I can say is that this is not kicking my ass as much as mechanicus was
I'm certainly regretting playing it on Normal. I assumed it's going to be like Wrath.
Turn the difficult up to Daring, the true normal.
How was mechanicus kicking your ass
The moment you get vanguard and two gigachad priests it's completely joever
Here's the FFG game's social ranks so you know where you stand.
Alright, just finished up everything I could do on Footfall and now I've got some choices to make. Which of these planets should I go to next? Last act I ended up going to the planet that was under siege first and every single fight was an uphill slog, so I'd like to avoid hitting the "main" planet of this act too early.
there was a question about changes in the story depending which order you visit the planets, i wonder if it really matters in act 2
Can you do anything with the reactor you take from Rykard minoris?
>not using it for Exterminatus
heretic
I couldn't have it on my conscience.
A dead world brings no profit
a daemon world actively fricks up other opportunities for profit