The rondo virgin trembles before the might of the Super Castlevania Chad.
8-directional swinging is the direction the series should have kept going, no matter how much you cope over rondo being your first castleboingo.
I replayed Castlevania II about two years ago, after blindly hating it for decades. And what I found was, I actually liked it. Yeah, it needs polish (it needs a full blown remake). But it is very similar to Zelda 2. Another game that was ahead of its time and needs a remake. I see the potential in it. And I can overlook it's few flaws.
And it's still 100x better than Harmony of Dissonance. It's clear Harmony of Dissonance was trying to be an homage to it. But good god did IGA frick it up.
HoD has quite a few problems but it's still a pretty solid game but sadly it's best known as the stepping stone to creating AoS, which in my opinion is the best IGAvania.
I can't agree. I recently played all the Castlevania games in a row (via the anthology packs). Was massively addicted and couldn't get enough of them. Even ended up loving Circle of the Moon way more than I remembered. Played through it three times. Then I went to play Harmony and all my motivation just drained away. It's not even the graphics. I could get used to those (even though they are really bad). But the character movement, level design, item progression and so on are just next levels of bad. Ended up having to take a huge break after slogging through Harmony before playing Aria.
It's funny you say that because I also played through that collection and I ended up disliking both CotM and HoD a bit more than when I played them as a teen. CotM has some stiff ass controls(yes double tap run is a problem) but also there's no shops so you can only get consumables from random drops which is quite awful. HoD has a very bad map because I guess the team wanted to ape SotN as much as possible but taking the "two castles" idea and making it pretty moronic as it gets quite easy to get lost. Also the shops appearing conditionally is moronic. That being said I still had fun playing them both again and a much better time playing AoS again.
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I won't claim CotM is perfect. It definitely has bad RNG and pacing. But part of the reason I like it is because I think Nathan does have better movement than a lot of Castlevania characters (after you get run and double jump to maneuver him in air). And the added difficulty making you need to level and use items/cards is more of the driving force than just finding a slightly stronger sword or one of the broken blue souls. I love Aria, but there isn't really much to it after you get the three best souls like halfway through the game.
Since they only seem to be doing the Alucard adjacent games, how will they frick up Soma?
Honestly, if they just adapt the story as it is in Aria/Dawn, it will be stupid. People remember these games fondly. But if you look at the story seperate from the gameplay, they're soap opera type writing. Not surprising since it was done by the guy who popularized dating sims.
But given who keeps making the "anime" adaptations, they'll probably replace the soap opera style writing with dick jokes and gore. Just to make it more like Adult Swim.
I think I understand why this doesn't look like anime to me (which it isn't).
It doesn't cleverly cut visual corners, in ways the industry normally does. and yet it doesn't look better off for it.
The "anime" does cut corners. But it cuts them in different ways than normal anime does. The animation is done by a Japanese/Korean duo studio, but it's obvious that they use the western style of writing and storyboarding, as well as how they allocate the budget. What you get is a show that's trying to be a typical Adult Swim show. Both in tone and writing.
It's a bit heretical to say, but it's probably Dawn of Sorrow with the Touch Screen/Luck Fix Patch. For me, it absolutely redeems the game and I loved playing it.
However, as a base game, I think I agree with Rondo. I played the PSP Dracula X Chronicles (which I acknowledge is technically a different game) as my first Castlemania and it stuck with me.
>Soma is supposed to be Dracula's reincarnation >Dracula is still alive, having been revived at the end of Trevor's story and generally uninterested in being the ultimate evil that he generally is supposed to be >have to put Dracula back on track to be somebody that Julius Belmont will kill during the eclipse so that he can reincarnate into Soma
Basically they've written Dracula out of fricking Castlevania so much they're basically just going to have to make some random shit up about Soma or just make him some generic avatar of Chaos.
And god knows it'll just go off the rails into Alucardwank again anyway.
Actual, unironic prediction: >Take Soma's character from Aria, but make him Latino (writers loathe the franchise's goofiness so they will NEED to justify his last name) >Take the villains from Dawn (they're an international cast so the globohomosexual writers will be dying to include them) >Celia, Dario and Dmitrii are all vampires now >Maybe, MAYBE throw Graham into the mix and make him part of the evil church which is also evil and evil as well >Yoko is half-Japanese now (same situation as Soma) >Hammer is just some kind of treasure hunter, or alternatively, not in the show at all >Julius is half-black and has nothing special about him other than he's powerful (racemixing is beautiful, chuddies) >All 3 parties (Soma's good guys gang, Celia's vampire gang and Graham's church gang) are in search of an ancient Macguffin related to devil forgemastery >Soma isn't Dracula's reincarnation but the reincarnation of the ancient forgemaster-god-thing that was related to the Macguffin they were all looking for
Now take everything above, scramble it and make it 80% less accurate to the games.
This is my prediction.
They're targeting the Got/Adult Swim market. Which is stupid. But for decades now, they've been told that's the most lucrative market. And they keep focusing on it. Not realizing the market that used to appeal to, teenagers who thought they were mature for watching a show with swearing and gore, are now in their 30s/40s. And many of them have ironically gotten tired of the "mature" stuff and gotten into stuff like MLP, moe anime, slice of life, etc.
>Call Dracula Vlad Tepes >Tepes means "impaler" >Dracula was his actual dynastic name
Just another small piece of the Netflix writers not giving a shit. Also they seem obsessed with making the women and Alucard the main characters and having the Belmonts be chumps. Probably why they wouldn't do Leon/Simon/Juste. No Alucard, no woman backup
Buy the SotN/Rondo anthology pack. Or emulate it. Just don't play the SNES version called Castlevania V.
The SNES game is called Castlevania: Dracula X and it's not a "botched port" of Rondo but a completely different game. The only similarity to Rondo is that you play as Richter Belmont. It's an original game, don't be a fricking moron and at least play it before forming your own opinion.
> don't be a fricking moron and at least play it before forming your own opinion.
I did play it. It's an "original game" but is emulating the levels from Rondo. Right down to the theming of the levels and saving the girls (and you don't get to play as Maria in this version). It's essentially a downgraded version of Rondo because the SNES couldn't port it. Dumbass.
Every series will eventually fall apart, if you wait long enough. Almost all of them fall apart right after the original creator leaves. The fact that stuff like Castlevania and Star Trek was able to not only stay good but improve after a half dozen teams worked on them is why they stand out. But yes, both eventually got a shitty head producer (IGA and JJ Abrams/Kurtzman) and went to crap.
The "anime" shouldn't even be considered. It's like hating all of Batman because Suicide Squad exists.
>Aria, Portrait, and Ecclesia are fun games.
The other ones you didn't name are terrible. Especially HoD and the 3D games. He's very inconsistent. But beyond that, he also went too hard on trying to make story/lore the focus. Going as far as claiming certain games that came before his time weren't canon and then rewriting the origin of Dracula and the Belmonts (which was handled terribly). It was so bad the people who took over after he left basically had to reboot the series with yet another origin story.
To be fair, Castlevania was already on the downward slide since the DS/PS2 games. You might like them. But fan reception to those games is mixed. And the bigger problem was, they weren't appealing to new people outside the fanbase. The games that were made after IGA left going all GoW also sucked, I agree. But let's not pretend IGAs 3D games were good either.
What do you mean by these? if you mean Netflix originals, they aren't making tons of money. That's the issue. For every one hit like Stranger Things or One Piece live action, there's 100+ failures. Castlevania wasn't an outright failure. But it also wasn't a resounding success. Hype for it died after the first season.
Yes. Is this your first time experiencing dumb decisions by a publisher? Just look at Batwoman or Star Trek Discovery or She Hulk or hundreds of other shows in recent years.
>TFW no 1-2 hour movie about Simon going full Korgoth the barbarian in Dracula's Castle with little dialogue and mostly metal-orchestra renditions of CV1 themes as background. >TFW no Castlevania psychological kino about a bunch of adventurers in Dracula's Castle >TFW no actual CV3 anime actually based in the games and with fricking Grant actually fricking existing
it was so hard to get it wrong, and they did
Failing up. Shareholders and ESG, nepotism, term contracts, etc. That writers strike that just happened? Yeah, it wasn't to "protect creativity" like they claimed. It was to make sure the people already in the industry keep their easy jobs like this. Where you can literally write shit but can't get fired. It's like Hollywood tenure.
your homosexual porno anime isn't vidya
>anime
Aria of Sorrow. Soma Cruz was the best protagonist to date, easily.
The rondo virgin trembles before the might of the Super Castlevania Chad.
8-directional swinging is the direction the series should have kept going, no matter how much you cope over rondo being your first castleboingo.
competely different genre but good opinion
Will netflix get his ass too?
Hope not.
They will turn Mina black or something and Alucard will be Julius gay lover.
dogshit anime
same tho
Basically every Castlevania game from 1 to Circle of the Moon (except N64) tied. All for different reasons. It fell apart after IGA took over.
The Netflix show also sucks.
Even Castlevania II? I mean sure it's not as bad as it's memed to be, but it's still a bit of a mess, even more so than 64.
I replayed Castlevania II about two years ago, after blindly hating it for decades. And what I found was, I actually liked it. Yeah, it needs polish (it needs a full blown remake). But it is very similar to Zelda 2. Another game that was ahead of its time and needs a remake. I see the potential in it. And I can overlook it's few flaws.
And it's still 100x better than Harmony of Dissonance. It's clear Harmony of Dissonance was trying to be an homage to it. But good god did IGA frick it up.
HoD has quite a few problems but it's still a pretty solid game but sadly it's best known as the stepping stone to creating AoS, which in my opinion is the best IGAvania.
I can't agree. I recently played all the Castlevania games in a row (via the anthology packs). Was massively addicted and couldn't get enough of them. Even ended up loving Circle of the Moon way more than I remembered. Played through it three times. Then I went to play Harmony and all my motivation just drained away. It's not even the graphics. I could get used to those (even though they are really bad). But the character movement, level design, item progression and so on are just next levels of bad. Ended up having to take a huge break after slogging through Harmony before playing Aria.
It's funny you say that because I also played through that collection and I ended up disliking both CotM and HoD a bit more than when I played them as a teen. CotM has some stiff ass controls(yes double tap run is a problem) but also there's no shops so you can only get consumables from random drops which is quite awful. HoD has a very bad map because I guess the team wanted to ape SotN as much as possible but taking the "two castles" idea and making it pretty moronic as it gets quite easy to get lost. Also the shops appearing conditionally is moronic. That being said I still had fun playing them both again and a much better time playing AoS again.
I won't claim CotM is perfect. It definitely has bad RNG and pacing. But part of the reason I like it is because I think Nathan does have better movement than a lot of Castlevania characters (after you get run and double jump to maneuver him in air). And the added difficulty making you need to level and use items/cards is more of the driving force than just finding a slightly stronger sword or one of the broken blue souls. I love Aria, but there isn't really much to it after you get the three best souls like halfway through the game.
Honestly, if they just adapt the story as it is in Aria/Dawn, it will be stupid. People remember these games fondly. But if you look at the story seperate from the gameplay, they're soap opera type writing. Not surprising since it was done by the guy who popularized dating sims.
But given who keeps making the "anime" adaptations, they'll probably replace the soap opera style writing with dick jokes and gore. Just to make it more like Adult Swim.
Symphony of the Night is the game that popped my Castlevania cherry so it will always be my favorite.
I think I understand why this doesn't look like anime to me (which it isn't).
It doesn't cleverly cut visual corners, in ways the industry normally does. and yet it doesn't look better off for it.
The "anime" does cut corners. But it cuts them in different ways than normal anime does. The animation is done by a Japanese/Korean duo studio, but it's obvious that they use the western style of writing and storyboarding, as well as how they allocate the budget. What you get is a show that's trying to be a typical Adult Swim show. Both in tone and writing.
I have never liked castlevania at all which is really fricking weird because I should love it.
The deedlit game was cool.
>deedlit
Play Touhou Luna Nights.
yeah I did that game is also fantastic and better than the deedlit game they made
You must fricking hate the "anime" """adaptation""" then.
People like this shit script? Seriously this is worse than marvel slop
I though someone just made up that text for a webm in another thread.
Rondo is, in my eyes, a perfect game (probably because of its comparative simplicity)
The writers have no reverence for the originals
>Rondo
>a perfect game
>stay getting
why do people think it's cool to speak improperly? it's so moronic
>Chronicles
Fight me you fricking b***hes I dare you.
I bet your first castlemania was sotn you homosexual
>I bet your first castlemania was sotn you homosexual
It was but Chronicles is a great game, has one of the best OSTs.
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My first Castlevania game was Castlevania III on the NES. And my favorites are III, SotN and CotM. Try again.
>Look at how mature this character is, they say FRICK.
My favorite is Symphony of the Night.
Haha funny a-non. Now post the real line.
It's a bit heretical to say, but it's probably Dawn of Sorrow with the Touch Screen/Luck Fix Patch. For me, it absolutely redeems the game and I loved playing it.
However, as a base game, I think I agree with Rondo. I played the PSP Dracula X Chronicles (which I acknowledge is technically a different game) as my first Castlemania and it stuck with me.
Since they only seem to be doing the Alucard adjacent games, how will they frick up Soma?
Soma will be non binary
Graham will be a member of the Catholic church
Mina will be a girl boss
And their names will be changed to Soren, Graves and Michael.
>Soma is supposed to be Dracula's reincarnation
>Dracula is still alive, having been revived at the end of Trevor's story and generally uninterested in being the ultimate evil that he generally is supposed to be
>have to put Dracula back on track to be somebody that Julius Belmont will kill during the eclipse so that he can reincarnate into Soma
Basically they've written Dracula out of fricking Castlevania so much they're basically just going to have to make some random shit up about Soma or just make him some generic avatar of Chaos.
And god knows it'll just go off the rails into Alucardwank again anyway.
Actual, unironic prediction:
>Take Soma's character from Aria, but make him Latino (writers loathe the franchise's goofiness so they will NEED to justify his last name)
>Take the villains from Dawn (they're an international cast so the globohomosexual writers will be dying to include them)
>Celia, Dario and Dmitrii are all vampires now
>Maybe, MAYBE throw Graham into the mix and make him part of the evil church which is also evil and evil as well
>Yoko is half-Japanese now (same situation as Soma)
>Hammer is just some kind of treasure hunter, or alternatively, not in the show at all
>Julius is half-black and has nothing special about him other than he's powerful (racemixing is beautiful, chuddies)
>All 3 parties (Soma's good guys gang, Celia's vampire gang and Graham's church gang) are in search of an ancient Macguffin related to devil forgemastery
>Soma isn't Dracula's reincarnation but the reincarnation of the ancient forgemaster-god-thing that was related to the Macguffin they were all looking for
Now take everything above, scramble it and make it 80% less accurate to the games.
This is my prediction.
not enough homosexuals and browns
I've beaten almost 10 Castlevania games over the last three months, I wish I gave this series a shot sooner
>Classic
Castlevania 3
>Metroid
Aria of Sorrow
I can't wait for them to shit on Sotn, it'll be the end of their shit.
Isn't that what they're doing now? How many seasons are planned for this anyway?
Why do these Netflix writers have an obsession with the f-word?
>I am motherfricking Death. I am primeval and fricking ancient and I have seen the birth of humanity itself, stupid fricking human. Frick you.
They're targeting the Got/Adult Swim market. Which is stupid. But for decades now, they've been told that's the most lucrative market. And they keep focusing on it. Not realizing the market that used to appeal to, teenagers who thought they were mature for watching a show with swearing and gore, are now in their 30s/40s. And many of them have ironically gotten tired of the "mature" stuff and gotten into stuff like MLP, moe anime, slice of life, etc.
Hopefully it gets cancelled before they ruin my wife Shanoa
>thinking these guys even know anything about Castlevania beyond things vaguely associated with Alucard
These guys skipped Simon. SIMON.
You want them to actually adapt Simon? The show should have been cancelled just for what they did to Trevor.
And yet they found a way to have JUSTe Belmont. They skipped Simon because they wanted to adapt SOTN
>die you FRICKING monster, you don't FRICKING belong here
>what the FRICK is a man
>a FRICKING miserable little pile of secrets
Harmony of Dissonance.
>Call Dracula Vlad Tepes
>Tepes means "impaler"
>Dracula was his actual dynastic name
Just another small piece of the Netflix writers not giving a shit. Also they seem obsessed with making the women and Alucard the main characters and having the Belmonts be chumps. Probably why they wouldn't do Leon/Simon/Juste. No Alucard, no woman backup
Circle of the Moon is my favorite, but I haven't played many of them. What's the best way to play RoB?
Classic PC Engine Rondo of Blood version
Buy the SotN/Rondo anthology pack. Or emulate it. Just don't play the SNES version called Castlevania V.
The SNES game is called Castlevania: Dracula X and it's not a "botched port" of Rondo but a completely different game. The only similarity to Rondo is that you play as Richter Belmont. It's an original game, don't be a fricking moron and at least play it before forming your own opinion.
> don't be a fricking moron and at least play it before forming your own opinion.
I did play it. It's an "original game" but is emulating the levels from Rondo. Right down to the theming of the levels and saving the girls (and you don't get to play as Maria in this version). It's essentially a downgraded version of Rondo because the SNES couldn't port it. Dumbass.
The quote was intended for the other anon, lol.
Also CDX is Rondo about as much as Chronicles is Castlevania NES. Still two very different games.
No metroidvania can beat pic related IMO. When it comes to classics, Rondo is my favorite.
Does Richter get buttfricked in this one?
No.
This show’s existence makes me regret getting into Castlevania at all because it’s now completely fricked
It's not hurting or helping, Konami barely gave a shit beyond what they could package and resell and nothing was gonna change that.
That doesn't make it any better. What a tragic IP, and Mega Man fans think they have it hard
Every series will eventually fall apart, if you wait long enough. Almost all of them fall apart right after the original creator leaves. The fact that stuff like Castlevania and Star Trek was able to not only stay good but improve after a half dozen teams worked on them is why they stand out. But yes, both eventually got a shitty head producer (IGA and JJ Abrams/Kurtzman) and went to crap.
The "anime" shouldn't even be considered. It's like hating all of Batman because Suicide Squad exists.
What's wrong with IGA? Aria, Portrait, and Ecclesia are fun games.
>Aria, Portrait, and Ecclesia are fun games.
The other ones you didn't name are terrible. Especially HoD and the 3D games. He's very inconsistent. But beyond that, he also went too hard on trying to make story/lore the focus. Going as far as claiming certain games that came before his time weren't canon and then rewriting the origin of Dracula and the Belmonts (which was handled terribly). It was so bad the people who took over after he left basically had to reboot the series with yet another origin story.
IGA was great, frick you. After IGA left it all went to shit.
To be fair, Castlevania was already on the downward slide since the DS/PS2 games. You might like them. But fan reception to those games is mixed. And the bigger problem was, they weren't appealing to new people outside the fanbase. The games that were made after IGA left going all GoW also sucked, I agree. But let's not pretend IGAs 3D games were good either.
For me, it’s Castlevania 1
If go woke go broke then why come they keep making these and making tons of money?
because netflix has autoplay
What do you mean by these? if you mean Netflix originals, they aren't making tons of money. That's the issue. For every one hit like Stranger Things or One Piece live action, there's 100+ failures. Castlevania wasn't an outright failure. But it also wasn't a resounding success. Hype for it died after the first season.
>Hype for it died after the first season
>So they made two more seasons
Yes. Is this your first time experiencing dumb decisions by a publisher? Just look at Batwoman or Star Trek Discovery or She Hulk or hundreds of other shows in recent years.
Don't forget Velma!
>vidya/anime adaptaion
>by westcuck streaming platform
Nope.
Butt frickit
I CLAPPED with the Divine Bloodlines scene.
Sad it was just 5 minutes so they could use it in the trailers to trick people to watch this garbage.
>TFW no 1-2 hour movie about Simon going full Korgoth the barbarian in Dracula's Castle with little dialogue and mostly metal-orchestra renditions of CV1 themes as background.
>TFW no Castlevania psychological kino about a bunch of adventurers in Dracula's Castle
>TFW no actual CV3 anime actually based in the games and with fricking Grant actually fricking existing
it was so hard to get it wrong, and they did
How do these writers still have a job?
Nepotism + Diversity hiring
Failing up. Shareholders and ESG, nepotism, term contracts, etc. That writers strike that just happened? Yeah, it wasn't to "protect creativity" like they claimed. It was to make sure the people already in the industry keep their easy jobs like this. Where you can literally write shit but can't get fired. It's like Hollywood tenure.
anyone have a collection of all Ayami Kojima's artwork?
>haha look guys we referenced the trope while subverting it, how IRONIC and SELF AWARE amirite?
>that writing
nocturne in a nutshell. not even surprised they turned orlox I to fricking John redcorn of all people