>RTS requires planning, thinking and concentration to play
>Zoomers don't have those skills because they spend all their free time watching dumb shit on tiktok
>RTS is now a dead genre thanks to zoomies being moronic
>RTS requires planning, thinking and concentration to play
its not really dead
but its certainly not mainstream
aoe4 is good
you can still get matches quickly in sc2
wc3 has longer ques but you can still get games
Im playing the new warhammer rts(lite) rn, its ok
>aoe4 is good
It looks like a mobile game to me.
I still think aoe2:de is a far better game
>I haven't played it
>This other game is better
Bravo
good take. aoe2 is peak
Peak zombie, like all of modern AoE.
>Keep recycling mechanics from all games and putting them in all games by an ex-modding team studio.
>Because everyone knows what AoE2 needed is AoM, AoE3 and AoEO mechanics.
>And AoE3 needed AoE2 and AoEO mechanics.
>And AoE4 is just AoE2 plus tiny bit of Cossacks and the expansions/updates are adding AoE3, AoM and AoEO mechanics.
>$15 plus tip for every such addition.
>New campaigns and units are all exclusively word-for-word and image-for-image recreation of a single Wikipedia article. Zero imagination or passion for anything they do.
If that's not a zombie, then I don't fricking know what is.
It really looks ugly which is why I have no interest. They shouldnt have went back in time for 4 . I want a real sequel to aoe3
FPBP
Because of such morons as this anon, the opinion is formed that the RTS games are dead.
>Shitlennial blaming Zoomers despite the fact his generation ruined gaming with their consumerism
I'm a zoomer, I've played many RTS games
They don't require planning, thinking and concentration, they require googling a meta build order, drilling it and then making sure you know the 3 different variations you need to do when your opponent tries to counter you.
RTS games are incredibly formulaic, bland and asiaticclick has become an international meme because people literally sit around with nothing to do in game mashing keys to get their APM up
Frick you and frick this shit genre
>They don't require planning, thinking and concentration, they require googling a meta build order, drilling it and then making sure you know the 3 different variations you need to do when your opponent tries to counter you.
You can make this argument with 90% of competitive games, but if your not masters you can frick off Black person. lurk for 2 more years and try again shithead
>Just put yourself at a major disadvantage because you want to be a special little snowflake and express yourself while getting anally raped every game because your build order can't counter your opponents
>Master
c**t people do that in the lowest ranks
>Tell me how you learn hotkeys, unit stats, unit pathing, building stats, game mechanics, late-game startegies, resource gathering mechanics, etc by googling fricking builds? Dumbass gay
>And how in the frick are you executing a build without concentration?
Did you read the part where I said you drill the build orders you dumb frick?
>you're a lying homosexual 30yo Black person living off welfare and can't even afford to own a computer or rent. Stupid homosexual.
Pure projection
>Googling a meta build order
OH NONONONNONONONONONNONONNONONONNONONNONONNONONNONNONONONO
based
Tell me how you learn hotkeys, unit stats, unit pathing, building stats, game mechanics, late-game startegies, resource gathering mechanics, etc by googling fricking builds? Dumbass gay
And how in the frick are you executing a build without concentration?
Make a video of yourself executing AOE2 /SC2 build in ranked and actually keeping up with your opponent late-game.
Whatever you're not gonna do it because you're a lying homosexual 30yo Black person living off welfare and can't even afford to own a computer or rent. Stupid homosexual.
>I've played many RTS games
In singleplayer
RTS died because they started focusing on the shit is complaining about instead of what actually made the genre fun, causing the playerbase to fall off a cliff.
asiaticclick isn't what makes RTS fun, high-level play is terrible. what made RTS fun was low/mid level play, the city building, the single-player, and most importantly the custom modes.
Also a zoomer but this is why rts died. Try hards ruined the fun from more organically discovering the meta
This.
RTS games died because
>they are worse than city builders (for all the turtling subhumans who want to play a game with deep building)
>they are worse than RTTs (for people who want realistic, detailled combat)
>they are worse than 4x / grand strategy (for people who care about history, realism, sandboxiness
RTS games are shit and will stay dead just like arena shooters.
>Gankerirginlennials cry about MUH RTS GAMES ARE DEAD BRING THEM BACK PLEASE I WANT TO PLAY AGAINST BRAINDEAD AI AND TURTLE AND STEAMROLL THEM AFTER BUILDING UP A BASE FOR 100 HOURS ON A SKIRMISH MAP
>some moronic dev actually releases an RTS game
>"IT'S TOO DIFFERENT, WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS ESPORTS homosexualRY??? I JUST WANNA PLAY THE SAME OLD GAME AND PLAY SKIRMISH MAPS AND STEAMROLL THE AI, FRICKING ZOOMER DEVS
shit genre, shit players, shit games, i only play 4x, grand strategy, RTTs and wargames nowadays
cry about MUH RTS GAMES ARE DEAD BRING THEM BACK PLEASE I WANT TO PLAY AGAINST BRAINDEAD AI AND TURTLE AND STEAMROLL THEM AFTER BUILDING UP A BASE FOR 100 HOURS ON A SKIRMISH MAP
Devs should be smart enough to cater to this instead of blindly trying to cater to the sub 30% of the RTS population that even tries 1v1s. How 'alive' a game is doesn't fricking matter unless you're selling it as a service and not a product.
Based, you all right zoomzoom. RTS troons have the same mindset as Speedrunners they equate the extremely monotonous learning process with them being good, when in reality most people just decide that there better things to do with their time.
Pretty much, it’s the reason I only play something like Eu4 (stupid amounts of situations) or Stellaris (very custom nations), any other RTS tends to just be autismware that’s more about repeating the exact same thing you did last time
The harsh truth
You can boil all competitive games down to this. Frick esports, nobody but autists give a shit about that, play the game because it's fun damn you.
RTS are dead because they don't want change
While other genre fans want new games and updates and stuff, RTS enjoyers are still content with SC2 and AoE2
because those games are still the gold standard. its not that we dont want new games. we want new games that dont suck
>company of heroes 2
>c&c 4
>dawn of war 2
>dawn of war 3
and whenever they're doing something right, they almost always try to make it esports
>buildings on road
>build a bunch of war factories and refineries
>spam rhinos and have them hit and run
gg
almost like you can't have a meaningful interaction with construction buildings.
I play fighting games, you know why? because they are about real people and not fricking roads and buildings.
they require all those things you mentioned.
RTS just sucks and video games are meant to be fun
RTS died long before zoomers became adults moron.
>rts still getting released
>if anyone but tech illiterate boomers are bying prebuilts and consooming movie games because they have a rotten brain and the reaction times are much worse
get a grip moron, this is an extremely weak bait and you should be ashamed of posting such cringe for (You)s. Kys.
Enjoy your mobASS homosexual, let's hope gen A turns things around and let's pray we for us to be alive by then
Why did they never make a fourth one? It was THE franchise for PC
>Millennial projects xer failure and weakness onto zoomers again
Most zoomers I know primarily play older games and indie titles. They have no interest in modern AAA, which makes sense because AAA is firmly geared towards millennial tastes. Zoom zooms are appalled at whats happened to the franchises they grew up hearing about. They want games that are fun, not glorified Skinners boxes.
>Fornite
>LOL
>Not aimed at zoomers
lol lmao
>LOL
League wasn't designing shit for zoomers they were fricking 13 years old at the absolute oldest when it released.
Old enough to click a mouse and open lootboxes
Dumb c**t, lootboxes didn't fricking exist in the game for another seven fricking years after release when all the bullshit the game was had been decided more than 5 years prior
Ok zoomer
I'm 27 you stupid homosexual.
League was made for millennials and millennials only until maybe 4 years ago.
zoom zooms wouldn't know the fricking difference because they never played the games they "grew up hearing about"
>Says anon, who has only ever turtled against AI
It's hilarious when zoomies on Ganker pretend they are good at games. These people only play nintendies slop and would get raped in games requiring skill and they shit their lants and cry. Fricking worthless generation of Black personloving tards
Millennials killed RTS, not zoomers
Millennials enabled the rise of MOBAs while most zoomers didn't even exist yet
Millennials embraced esports homosexualry, while most zoomers were just playing dumb mobile games
It's a dead genre because it already reached perfection three times in a row. What is the point of playing new RTS when you could be playing AoE 2, Starcraft games or Supreme Commander?
Same reason western civilization is dead
Also the top 3 C&C are RA2 > original > Generals
Problem is RTS games devolve into rushes and early harassment, which completely kills the entire casual playerbase.
They should be about slowly amassing huge armies and A+Clicking them into each other, not who has the highest APM and best build order.
The problem with this is then that the game becomes about micromanaging this massive army and that's a pain in the ass
>micromanaging
That's just a problem for esport level sweatlords that need to move every single unit individually. Just box select the army and attackmove it towards an enemy base, easy.
>Just box select the army and attackmove it towards an enemy base, easy.
thats not how you win at warcraft 3 tho. the micromanagement is just painful
I'm a proud multitasker asiatic clicker enjoyer since the 90s and i agree. Devs needs to focus on aesthetics, base building, resource management and feeling.
if it wasn't for how visceral the game looks and sounds, Broodwar would've never been popular. Shame that the genre is dead due to zoomers migrating to LOL, fortnite and console games instead of good games.
Ok zoomer
RTS is literally a genre made for the ADHD generation that couldn't handle turn based strategy game.
You're the same as a 19 year old Halo kid talking about how Valorant and Counter Strike ruined peakFPS that was Halo 3.
I just want to turtle. To bad they always add a million counters to turtling (long range siege, flying units, etc) Frick RTS devs
I don't know what to PLAY
What did you enjoy in your teen years? for me it was WC3 custom games. Those were the best times
I don't remember my life. Metroid Prime came out then i was on Ganker then dark souls came out then i played FF14 a lot but i don't remember what i did in it then elden ring came out and i was mad so i bought factorio and played it everyday for 2 years, i don't like factorio.
the RTS genre has been on life support for longer than zoomers have been alive
This. RTS has died around 2004/2005.
People born back then are starting to hit 20.
>Daniel Cook in March 2005
>As I write this in 2005, I’m bemused by the path the RTS game genre has taken from stunning innovation to stagnant maturity. The latest Age of Empires is certainly a gorgeous game, but the core mechanics of the genre have changed little since it’s peak in the late 1990s.
RA3 > RA2
kek. no.
Always kekd the hell out of this blant Lenin copy
Thankfully your shitty genre is dead
>Inb4 what about muh ~2 fringe cases
lol
>tried Zero-K yesterday
it's ugly
>tried Bar today
why is it almost the same game?
why can't the open source community for the love of god make an appealing game.
Rusted Warfare oozes more soul than those.
That's literally the only complaint I have for zero k though
They use free models and textures from public domains, so of course it's going to look scuff and all over the place..
I think it had more to do with no one really liking RTS as a whole. You can see that in StarCraft and WarCraft 3 where the vast majority of players were playing user made maps and not 1vs1.
So, new games just exploited the fact that some people liked slower building sims or faster action games and catered to that crowd. The Dota and Tower defense games also drew players away. RTS was only popular because the players weren't being satisfied elsewhere in the market.
Blizzard ended up really killing it by both destroying the user made settings maps by being tyrants and the market exploiting that players never really liked RTS to begin with.
Does Total War count as RTS? At least the combat?
I didn't get to play them at release as a zoomer, but I enjoyed the series before it got consumed by Warhammer.
>RTS youtuber polls his audience
>note that if you're watching fricking RTS youtubers you are probably not a casual
>only 15% of people have ever played a single multiplayer game
>less than 1% regulary play ranked
>80% say the most important part of an RTS is the singleplayer story mode
Pandering to comp homosexuals killed the genre, turns out spending 90ù of dev time on something 10% of people even engage in once isn't the smartest idea
But then you also gotta consider that probably like 90% of time ever spent on the game by all players is spent by those 1% grinding MP games, with like 1k-10k hours each. I'd also guess that tweaking numbers for compgays is probably a lot less dev work than making campaign missions
>RTS is now a dead genre thanks to zoomies being moronic
that also means (You) boomers are fricking losers who cannot keep their fav genre alive
apply yourself or suffer
we'd have way more RTS games if devs weren't so focused on making everything an unenjoyable micro click fest.
I have no hope for storm gate purely because I have never met a single person who got into RTS games and enjoyed the tedious micro you have to do, unless they have been playing these games for decades. New players just aren't going to put up with it.
what we really need is some competitors for total war, not more "micro the frick out of an "army" made up of 30 dudes"
What are the least macro intensive rts games? Where you just bulk select an army and right click into the enemy army and watch them lil homies fight?
Just play total war skirmish.
AoE2 without bombard cannons and trebuchets would be the perfect RTS for me.
the reality that many people dont want to accept is that rts is dead because 99% of the players want to do campaign and comp stomp. Even multiplayer in SC2, according to internal stats, is barely touched by the vast majority of the players. comp and esportsgays cant stand this but it's true.
Isn't that mostly what the really old RTS was before the internet became really big? They all had map editors and allowed you to make and share maps and play against the computer. So, maybe it's a case that the internet warped the perception of what RTS should be, when it was all campaign and comp stomp before.
RTS was "dead" when zoomers were still 6 year olds at best thoughbeitver
>planning
Is there a single RTS player that actually comes up with their own strategies instead of looking up the meta shit online?
How do you think a meta begins in the first place you massive fricking moron.
RA2 and TS remaster when reeeeeee
>>RTS requires planning, thinking and concentration to play
lmao rts is purely apm
RTS died due to asiaticclick design way before zoomers got a say
Should have bought and supported games like supreme commander instead of e-sport shit, you have only yourself to blame
>>RTS requires planning, thinking and concentration to play
I just played it to build pretty-looking bases
>hey this genre is boring as frick and hasn't made any meaningful evolution in decades while the MOBA and 4X/other grand strategy games are still incredibly robust for the single player and multiplayer space
>hurr it's the zoomers
Go be a homosexual somewhere else
I'm a homosexual and I think OP is full of shit