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>fell for the 16 GB G6X meme
frick off pajeet shill
what the frick is the best bang for your buck GPU anyway - I can't keep up with this shit
Get a 1060
New games are trah
3080 for 1440p, 4090 for 4k
1080?
3080
4060TI
i'm not even joking, official Nvidia statement.
>4090 for 4k
Lmao. Fricking roflkek. 4090 can't run 4k, nothing can run 4k. It can only run upscaled 4k, but so does 3080 or whatever.
4k is a meme. Only negative iq butthole breathing microbes would fall for 4k.
How can it not? We had 1440p over 10 years ago, surely 4k was not far after?
because modern devs are worthless mongrels and can't optimize for shit
have fun with UE5 games looking like PS3 games played on a CRT
Kek. I've been playing 1440p since 2012 no problems, felt like we're at a standstill
It depends on what you count as "it can run". 60 FPS apparently isn't a thing for modern games unless you are willing to play with lower settings. Which really isn't too bad by itself but fricking moronic when you use a current gen flagship card.
That's sad. 60 fps 1440p for 12 years for me now.
Devs have really given up huh. Paid by gpu manufacturers?
More like general incompetence, and no one really gives a shit about optimization nowadays anyway simply because of "just use DLSS lmao"
What's funny is consoles only have FSR so you have these games running at 720 upscaled to 1440 and just FRICKED with FSR fizzle. PS4 games with checkerboarding look better than the UE5 slop we're getting.
>anyway simply because of "just use DLSS lmao"
not true
games are made primarily for consoles in mind, only pc users can access dlss
consolegays will suffer FSR and sub-FHD render resolutions anwyay.
"Just use FSR lmao" then, it's not like the average gay would know the difference between 1080p-1440p and upscaled 4k for example
lol
where's the dlss there?
Yeah
the new games do not even look good to warrant the update.
Reminds me of tessellation scam in 2010.
Funny how like five games in the past 10 years have actually looked next gen, only a couple developers are actually making great graphics
something both Hollywood homosexuals and vidya studios fail to realize shit looks real because it has good directing, this goes double for movie games which rely on their directing
Last of Us 2, death stranding, and rdr2 still has graphics that no game has surpassed in my opinion, studios just don't know what to do.
RDR2 is the only good looking game on your list, the last of soi 2 looks like ass and DS looks like a ps3 game with an HD textures mod
ironically enough, RDR2 is the only game on that list that doesn't need that much hardware to push 60fps ultra
Nah the forests look incredible in tlou2. Also include animations and facial capture in these. I don't know what people see in cyberpunk, it looks like shit.
what happened is that games are trying to implement some meme bullshit like raytracing just for the sake of having it instead of making something that just looks good
>what happened
PBR and TAA.
it will never stop being funny that people use arkham knight as an example of games being better back then because it got pulled from stores for being a buggy unoptimized mess and an example of devs overreaching with technology
Now compare that to troonypunk STILL being an unoptimized ugly mess that people praise because it doesn't crash every 10 minutes now.
You expect morons to remember how it was shat on for performing like crap? They played it when it was given away for free on EGS with their vastly newer cards.
unironically an improvement, mostly due to automata's stellar art direction
what's the gotcha supposed to be?
whoa... different aesthetics.... im going insane bro
yes, the PS2 textuers and models in Nier are trully different "aesthetics"
youre moronic
>bro just look at these extremely compressed cherry picked images and just read the words just trust me bro
>Max Settings - (actually not Max Settings)
lol
>t. thirdie who doesn't own a bigscreen tv.
nice reading comprehension
What about the 5090? Will it finally run 4k?
Unless it's at least x2 more powerful than 4090 the answer is no. And no video cards generation was x2 faster than the previous.
tl;dr no
jfc, we basically need a revolution in core design or for nvidia to stack a ton more RT cores on their gpus. 33 fps as 1% low is fricking abysmal to play
you will use the DLSS and you will be happy
Unless it becomes super good, probably not.
It is super good already
disagree
>x2 more powerful than 4090
That's not possible in a gen. Nvidia operate too near the EUV reticle limit (800mm, AD102 is 600mm) to add moar silicon. AMD unironically could do that, especially on a chiplet based 7900XTX successor but power and heat management would be a massive issue and they don't compete in the consumer high end anyway, because every low margin gpu they order at tsmc is several high margin cpus they can't.
Nvidia will say that the 5090 is twice/thrice as powerful as the 4090
>5090 using frame gen*
>while the 4090 isn't using frame gen*
>*under those circumstances
unironically wouldn't surprise me if they release DLSS 4 with double upscaling and double framegen for 8 times the goyware "performance"
you will happily slurp 480p 10fps goyscaled to 4k 60fps and you will like it
and morons will fall for it yes, but if you're over the age of 18 and have used a computer in your life you should know better than to fall for advertising
if you still fall for it then there's no one to blame but you
6090 atleast
I’m running 4K on my 2080TI though?
~~*4k*~~
Stardew Valley doesn't count
I played BG3 and Hogwarts Legacy at 4K on my 2080TI
Lmao neither of those games maintain steady 60 on any hardware, let alone a 2080ti. "works on my machine" homosexuals are the biggest morons/liars on the planet.
Believe me or not, I’ll be over here enjoying my games at 4K and laughing at you while you get mad when a number drops below 60.
>nothing can run 4k
maybe for AAA garbage that hasn't been good in a decade.
>inb4 it d-doesn't c-count because no RT
>paying 2000$ for a gpu to not actually fully use it
Because when you do use it as intended you start throwing a fit and sperging out that it's not "real" resolution, when nobody gives a frick. RT is expensive as frick, especially full path tracing.
Neither you nor I are every going to own a 4090 anyway, so it literally has no effect on you. There has always been these games throughout the years where maxing them out was more of a showing off than actual necessity. Don't know why morons suddenly pretend it's something new. All those zoomers flocking into PC gaming really shows.
Newer mid range cards still run shit just fine for the average gamer.
>neither you nor i are going to own a 4090
yeah because it does not actually do the job we expect it to do including blowjobs and rimjobs
I play literally everything in native 4k at 60+. Poorgay cope
These people don't know shit.
They nitpick that one game that doesn't run, ignoring the dozens of others that do.
Most of their knowledge comes from shitty pajeet benchmark videos.
>3080
4070 would be cheaper in the long run with its efficiency
>bang for buck
rx6700xt for 1080p, rx7800xt for 1440p
if you're looking for bang for buck, there's no other option really
GPU prices are fricked
you can get a good deal on the used market i guess, i got myself a 3060ti for 230 bucks and i'm satisfied
i still feel like 50% of used gpus on the market are just liquidated bitcoin farms
I almost bought a “new” 4090 from an Amazon seller but then noticed they just started their store and they listed their company address as an apartment complex. Smelt like bullshit to me.
Is AMD really that bad when it comes to drivers or is that just Nvidia propaganda?
Can an RX6700XT seriously not run big mainstream games like Sekiro or Elden Ring r Monster Hunter World at 1080p without a billion issues?
Amd can crash so bad it uninstalls its own drivers
I'll take it over geforce experience and having an account
>drivers
yes and no, there are some issues that nvidia would never have in a million years, but it's more so people have been cucked into thinking every card needs CUDA DLSS RTX HAIRWORKS etc, outside of moronic proprietary tech AMD cards are more performant and cheaper for the same "tier" card
Like, I just want to know if there's a website that shows how much compatibility AMD has with specific games. Do I have to install driver XYZ or fix ABC for this or that game? I just want something that works right out the bat with no or minimal hassle.
>I just want something that works right out the bat
AMD cards are no different than nvidia cards you pop them in the PC turn it on and download drivers start gaming! (though you might want to uninstall the NV drivers first)
leave everything at stock and you will see zero issues unless you're using yuzu or other shit emulators
almost all the issues you see is from goyvidia morons that can't DDU or follow dogshit undervolt/overclock guides from ecelebs and axe wound their windows with meme scripts
>bro just don't use emulators or ray tracing or FSR because it looks like shit and waste electricity with their power hungry GPUs or change any settings and it works perfectly and you can even save $50!!!
God, AMD gays are so fricking moronic.
more like don't use dogshit emulators, even goyvidia homosexuals shouldn't be using yuzu when ryujinx exists
> and waste electricity with their power hungry GPUs
buy a lower power GPU if you care about that goyim
and this is ignoring unlike nvidia and intel that overclock shit to the breaking point and expect the customer to turn that shit down to have the hardware live an acceptable amount of time, AMD just leaves shit at reasonable clocks meaning you don't have to do that shit
You advertising your competitor for free moron, each post gets progressively worse.
>Just don't buy it!
AMD doesn't even have any issues with emulators anymore.
I use Yuzu, Ryujinx, RPCS3, PPSSPP and the likes all just fine and it all just works. You only got cucked in the earlier stages because emu devs insisted on supporting openGL first and only for the first years because that's all they understood despite Vulkan being a way better option. Now everything has Vulkan support and AMD performs even better than Nvidia there in most circumstances within the same power tier.
for what it's worth i had driver issues on both cards (had radeon 5870, gtx 760, radeon rx480, rtx 3060ti) and while i had minor driver issues on all of them, none of the issues ever directly affected gameplay for me that much. only the early days of the rx480 were bad in terms of drivers but not too bad
I own a 6600xt and have had to roll back drivers once over a period of 3 years. I have played the following games with no issues at 1080p, or issues present on all systems (Elden ring stuttering, for instance)
>Elden Ring
>Hunt: Showdown
>Escape from Tarkov
>Doom Eternal
>Monster Hunter World
>DayZ
>Halo Infinite
>Destiny 2
>Total War: Warhammer II and the janky ass demo for III
Those are the games I can think of that have significant performance requirements.
>doom eternal
>significant performance requirements
the base game technically runs (with around 24 fps so like a console) on 2gb vram cards from 10 years ago. Only intro level cutscenes had unbearable lag
t. uses a 2gb vram card from 10 years ago
I fresh built with a 6800XT two months ago and have had zero issues.
my 5700xt was a fricking nightmare in terms of drivers, i don't care if we're in the actually amd is good phase now i won't lie about what a disaster having a 5700xt was
i can't tell you about the new 7000 series amd cards but with a 6800XT i only have minor issues with multiple monitors and night mode, but nothing serious. much smoother ride than 5700xt
I've a 7900XTX. Experimenting with undervolting (using Adrenalin) led to two driver crashes so far. Other than that it's been smooth, 240 fps at 1080 (if you're wondering why I bought a 24GB monster: it's because I'll move on to 1440p at some point and I expect GPU prices to get even worse)
Wait until that tariff on GPUs happens, prices in the US are going to be fricked.
>rx6700xt for 1080p, rx7800xt for 1440p
don't forget about the 6750 XT if you can find cheap.
The 7800 XT is a monster in bang per buck. It will drop further in price when nvidia releases the super series.
from what i hear for whatever reason the 6750xt is stupidly expensive outside muttland and yurop, to the point you're better off buying a 7800XT outright
7800XT is dogshit. 4070TI power consumption for 4070 performance and loses out on all the superior Nvidia features to boot.
Good morning sir
The 4070 is performing worse than the 7800 XT in pretty much every regard. All while being 100 bucks more expensive on average.
The 4070 Ti meanwhile which is slightly better than the 7800 XT is nearly twice as expensive as the 7800.
Sorry, but you are moronic if you pick any of the two over the 7800 XT. The AMD GPU also keeps up with the 4070s raytracing - only behind by like 6% on average.
>The 4070 is performing worse than the 7800 XT in pretty much every regard
No, because you have to run 7800 XT at native resolution since FSR is crap while you can run a 4070 at DLSS quality. They're basically even.
>7800 XT at native resolution
>4070 at DLSS quality
>They're basically even
good morning sir
You're right, the 4070 is getting more frames.
>sar the upscaling sar
buy a console.
>this tech that tricks you is bad
>all that other tech that tricks you is good because...it just is, okay?
You do realize all graphics are faked?
Wrong reply? Raster graphics being "fake" has nothing to do with being a console warrior over upscaling. FSR is a glorified lanczos filter and DLSS is literally TAA, both are awful.
>it d-doesn't count
cope
seething
FSR 3 is frame generation and does not make anything look better. Even DLSS performance looks better than FSR Quality
Yes, just take a look at FSR quality vs DLSS quality in this video and you will see
And this isn't even factoring in ray tracing. 7800XT is a complete waste of money.
>comparing latest DLSS to last gen FSR
Atleast look up FSR 3 examples.
>muh hecking goyframes
>my garbage ghosting upscaling is okay because I say it is
Behead shills. Not in Minecraft. Slowly.
>The 4070 is performing worse than the 7800 XT in pretty much every regard.
RT
you don't even use it without giving up image quality
which is needed for RT to be even good in the first place
sour grapes
How is it sour grapes?
>I want ray tracing except I can't have it in anything but the worst possible quality
>so I'll just give up normal rendering performance
Like i said. RT performance is only slightly behind the 4070. AMD has pretty much figured out their RT game and the only thing AMD still sucks donkeydick at is pathtracing.
But pathtracing right now is exclusive to Cyberpunk and Anal Woke 2 so you will have to see how much of a loss that is for you personally.
>RT performance is only slightly behind the 4070
Not true.
It's completely non existent. I turn on RT reflections only in cyberpunk on my 7800XT and it drops from 110 native 1440p to about 40.
Something must be wrong with your settings. I also have a 7800 XT and i get stable 60FPS+ with RT reflections
Native or FSR?
Native
proof?
Basically just tried it again.
90 in a busy area of downtown with SSR on high
Drops to 50 with RT reflections only.
Everything else is maxed out except fog resolution which is on medium.
Maybe you have a vastly more powerful CPU than mine, though. I have a 5700X.
4070 ti unironically
The prices are likely to drop after the new meme cards come out
luckily I'm not in a hurry but thanks for the input anons
RX 6600 and RX 6700XT are pretty good for the money buying new, maybe also the 7800XT and 7900XT if you manage to find it on discount
and want 4K vidya.
As for the used market:
RTX 3090 if you have luck to find one that isn't mined
RTX 2070 (Og or Super)
RTX 3070
These are only good at 1080p tho, gimped due of 8gb vram, 3070 will do wonders for high refresh monitors, also selling kinda cheap atm
Avoid all 4060s, its even better to get a 3060 than those pieces of shit, 3060Ti is also bad cuz 3070 exists and has much better performance for not much price difference, also that 3060ti only has 8gb while regular 3060 has 12gb vram, so its your call if you need high vram amount, afaik that shitty Tlou remaster on PC uses a lot of vram for some fricking reason, but the game runs like ass anyways, the port is fricking terrible.
If you are sticking to older vidya, maybe 3070 aint too bad if you dont want AyyMD
Man if even a 2000 series card went up for sale used I'd but it
>also that 3060ti only has 8gb while regular 3060 has 12gb vram
this is utterly meaningless
the 3060 is so much slower than the 3060ti that even if you reach a scenario where the 3060ti is vram bottlenecked while 3060 isn't, the 3060ti will STILL be faster despite the vram problem
there's more to cards than their vram homie
the only scenario where the 3060's 12gb vram wins out is 4k but who the frick would chase 4k with 3060/3060ti?
the VRAM matters because goyims these days don't play vidya, they play with AI shit instead and the extra VRAM is far more valuable than performance
for ai you have a point
but for people who just play videogames the vram hysteria is overblown, it's not nearly as much of a performance issues as it is an issue of insulting pricing
Based, I wanna shorten my video game porn ai generations but new cards are too expensive
used RTX 3090 Ti
a bit faster than the 3090, runs cooler too, similar performance to the 4070 ti and it has more vram
got mine for 650 euros earlier this year
My 2060 runs everything new at high with little issues, though I have a Ryzen 7.
>1200 USD + tip + donation to Israel for 12gb vram
lol
lmao
AMD 6700xt for poorgays, or 7800xt for mid-tier. Richgays, wgaf they all have 4090s anyway. The only real advantage Nvidia has is in AI shit. You will pay the AI tax and get a ~50% worse card per dollar (when it comes to gaming). Or you buy AMD and get a better deal, but a card that is garbage at generating waifu feet pics. Those are your choices, gamer.
Like how all the shitposters suddenly changed their tune after they just recently learned about "new thing".
The best part is that they didn't even know Nvidia had offices in Israel in multiple location for years.
The knew about Intel, but thy never bothered with nvidya before that.
What a bunch of easily manipulated sheep lmao.
>4 PCI slots required
Remember when GPUs were reasonably sized?
It's really not that bad, I had a 3 slot wide GPU back in 2011
>4070 Super
>still 192 Bit
what happens when you go from 192bit to 256bit? do girls like you more?
you stop getting as many memory bottle necks which are common in UE4/5 games, or other engines which lean heavily on streaming assests from video memory.
basically it translate to less "hitching" which is those momentary stutters whenever the engine has to load a new asset.
>goyvidia israelites people out of vram again
Hardware does not matter.
They can frick anything with bad programing.
No 4090 Super and 4090Ti?
no because the 4090 has no competition
The 5090 will be the 4090 ti
5090 will be 5090 aka blackwell xx102
they will simply not make a 4090 ti
not that there is a point when extra cores won't do much because the card is mostly memory bandwidth bottlenecked
>they will simply not make a 4090 ti
They would have done it if they didn't got the china ban tbh.
no they wouldn't
they have full ad102 chips lying around they just started putting into quadros
3090 ti already was the same as 3090, the only perf increase came from 450w power limit vs 350w on 3090
4090 doesn't scale with power
at 350W i get 2% less perf than at 450W and around 4% with RT than at 480W (max power limit of my AiB card)
we need faster memory than gddr6x, 4090 already barely scales with clocks 2.7ghz -> 3ghz almost does nothing but oc the memory and the difference becomes tangible
>we need faster memory than gddr6x, 4090 already barely scales with clocks 2.7ghz -> 3ghz almost does nothing but oc the memory and the difference becomes tangible
No, they need to stop being so cheap. A 384 bit memory bus is a joke for such an expensive card. The HD 2900 XT with a 512 bit bus had a launch price of 399 bucks in 2007, and the 512 bit GTX 280 had a 499 buck price just a month after launch.
>mfw I didn't buy 4080
Tell me when they wheel out something significantly better than the 3090
Just give me the 5000 cards already
Not gonna happen
Gaming will colaps before that
aren't they for late 2025?
have fun waiting
No new good games coming Il wait
actually 2023-2024 is when all the good games are releasing
2025-2026 will dead years for video games due to 3-4 year dev cycles
Oh cool name something
still waiting over 90 minutes later
>3-4 year dev cycles
don't they take at least 5 years now?
can someone who understands this shit explain to me why games are taking this long now if they don't have 24,000 paged scripts like rdr2
is it really those homosexuals saying "looks like a 360 game" at any game that doesn't require a 4090 to run at low or sum?
unironically outsourcing production to pajeets
but that's only half the story, there's also nu-whites being incompetent at leadership and femoids being in middle management shitting everything up
too many cooks.
the industry used to have smaller teams. they could communicate more efficiently and get things done faster as a result.
anyone who works in any sort of IT environment can tell you bigger teams affect performance and output inversely.
late 2024 or early 2025 at the latest. doubt they will let AMD launch new cards without an answer.
AMD has nothing
AMD has had nothing for a decade. nvidia still wants to launch first always,
I'm saying AMD won't release anything
only the highest cards have been canceled. so you're getting a 8700xt at the most. like with the 5700xt it was enough to make nvidia seethe and launch a entire SUPER series in response. They always respond.
Is this true?
I was kind of looking forward to buying a 8900xtx but I might as well go for the nvidia price equivalent and resell it after a few years if that's the case
navi 41 and 42 have been canceled. theyre only releasing navi 43. they probably have issues with MCM.
if it's a repeat of the 5700xt then the 8700xt will be 7900xt tier performance for a fraction of the price and cause goyvidia to seethe uncontrollably again
They can't be compared. People want the proprietary vendor locked technology with nvidia cards.
people also want to chop off their dicks and overdose on soi
that doesn't make them right
DLSS is better than FSR and some people need cuda. Cope and seethe .
And yet they still pay good money to do it
I agree. People just suddenly accept and buy graphics cards that are double or triple the price they were 6 years ago
It was "slow" because it was 2 hours drive away obviously, in a small village
>cause goyvidia to seethe uncontrollably again
You're living in an alternate reality. Look at ~~*nvidia*~~) market cap, they're swimming in money.
>even more goyvidia cope
AMD has been mogging them at literally every single price point except on the ultra-super-giga-flagship they pulled out of their ass that is the 4090, and even then the 4090 is barely any better than a 7900xtx once you turn off the goytracing crippleworks
I'm in Europe nobody will ever buy AMD.
They have 0 resell value
>treating your hobby like a stock market
lmfao grow up and get a real job goy
So I like to upgrade my GPU every generation.
Can't do that with AMD because I have to pay full price everytime and have multiple cards around that nobody wants.
if you're too poor to afford upgrades every generation why are you doing it?
Nobody wants AMD.
And I don't like throwing stuff away,but I'm not a collector.
>I'm in Europe nobody will ever buy AMD
Lying prick, it's Nvidia that's even more expensive that in the US
Nta but amd is basically as expensive as nvidia and they're both super expensive here
AMD is actually outselling Nvidia recently there. In Germany around 52% of all GPUs sold were AMD GPUs according to retailers. With around 45% being Nvidia and the last single digit percentages being Intel ARC.
Which is no surprise considering how dogshit the 4000 series overall is and that AMD offers some decent value with 7800 XT which even increased slightly in price and keeps selling out everywhere.
Well that's good. Hopefully used markets return to normal in the coming years
Oh yeah? have you fricking seen NVIDIA's pricing in EU?
A 4070 costs 850$. Of course that includes taxes and everything, which burgers always leave out of their price discussions.
You want a 4090? That would be 2800$.
I bought a 7800XT for 650$ and that was after a discount and it's by far the cheapest you can find.
4090 for 2800 in the EU? Try 3000 lmao
There are plenty of 4090 for around 2100€ what are you smoking?
Cheapest ones in my country are about 2400€, if you'd like to spend two months pay on one.
At this point you have to be willfully blind to not understand why Nvidia products cost more for less raster. RT matters, DLSS matters, and Nvidia's continued outperformance is a testament to that.
>RT matters, DLSS matters
lol
RR has been improved since then, but there's no AMD equivalent to what Nvidia is doing in the PT space to even compare it to.
What good reason should they chase every moving goalpost their competition makes? This will only spike costs even further.
>What good reason should they chase every moving goalpost their competition makes?
That's what they're doing already. When they do show up, they're a day late and a dollar short.
Who even needs 5000 yet? 4090 is way more than pretty much any game or memeai uses right now. they can milk out this 4000 series another 2 years.
>4 different types of 4070
Why?
>10-15% more power for 20% more power
frick Nvidia, who the frick will buy those? next gen 5000 is like 9-10 month away
>next gen 5000 is like 9-10 month away
>The Nvidia GeForce RTX 5000 release date is expected to fall in 2025,
lol
>fall in 2025
No, I thought it was coming out this year? I wanted to upgrade my PC this year so I can move from 1440p to 4k.
Should've bought a 4090 at launch then fricko because THE PRICE ONLY GOES UP
Why when I can get a 5090 that will mog the 4090? Right now I'm still playing old or indie games.
Can't run them on triple monitors at triple 4k can't you
Nah because I only have 1 4k TV and 2 1440p monitors.
Why buy a 5090 when you can buy a house for the same price?
Where can you find a house for 3500€
Africa, Rusia, India
Very nice
Well I do like to live dangerously
Why even go for such a high end card if you're aren't playing games that are going to push it?
If I get a 4k monitor maybe some of my games will push it, plus there is a few games coming out next year I am interested in.
i've got a 3090 what the frick games are you people playing that require this much graphical output?
Sonic Adventure 2 Chao World
>here name is literally anna semenwitch
thinking about swapping a 4070 ti for either 4080 if they lower the price or 4080 super
I'm just gonna wait for 5070 bud
Good thing I bought a temporary 4060 8GB
>Haha why didn't you buy the 16GB version
Cause that shit was 300$ plus tip MORE EXPENSIVE.
THERE ARE LITERALLY NO GAMES TO BUILD A POWERFUL PC FOR
Raw numbers are pointless. Give me a graphic with different cards and their FPS in benchmarks.
+5fps
>16gb
HOW MANY FRICKING PSU CABLES AM I GONNA NEED NOW
all of them
these ain't 4090s so the same number of cables that your 980ti needed + an adapter
I'm hopeful Nvdia will switch to proprietary sockets and sell cables separately.
>every RTX card is overpriced as frick
Is there any good GPUs with a reasonable price out there? I want to replace my RX 570.
Get a RX 6600, double the performance of a 580 pretty much for cheap.
If you want something flagship without breaking the bank too much then get a 7800XT.
I ordered a regular 4070 a week ago for $600, looks like it's time to update soon again, thanks Nvidia
OK cool another 1500-2000€ gpu, who fricking cares. There are no budget gpus anymore.
Pls intel bring balance to GPU prices.
Used market is still dead, only gtx 1060s being sold for 100. I will never be able to upgrade with my morals.
>overclock same gpu in factory bios
>add new fan
>Charge 20% more.
I can't wait to get the same bang for buck as cards that are 8 years old
The 4080 is virtually the same, they prolly releasing a 80 super to change prices and shit.
The 70 Ti Super tough, that shit is criminal with people that bough the regular 70 Ti, pure israeliteery.
Bottom is wrong because it doesn't have any cul de sacs
>The 70 Ti Super tough, that shit is criminal with people that bough the regular 70 Ti, pure israeliteery.
Why so? Somehow more expensive than the 80?
It has that 16GB sweetness for local AI shit
>willingly installing spyware
https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/
Alright Ganker compare GPUs like they're dick sizes now. What's the best fit?
4090 is the 12 inch bcc
Is a 4070 enough for 1440p/120 or should I go higher than that?
DLSS™ 4.0 coming this year with RTX™ 50x0 extrapolating frame putting a fake frame ontop of the last frame while DLSS™ 3.0 frame gen™ interpolation puts one in between. The Way It's Meant To Be Played™.
atleast that wont induce a big latency penalty. but i have no idea how it would sync up the frames.
Frick nvidia but I really need one for ai stuff. And nobody sells modern gpus locally used either. This generation is fricked.
What the FRICK is the point of the 4080 super? There's negligible differences compared to the 4080.
lower price
As fricking if lmao
this is what is expected.
people still watch this guy? he gets so much shit wrong. i think i stopped watching him when he said navi 33 (7600xt) will be as fast as a 6900xt.
How do you expect a guy who exclusively talks about rumors to not be wrong all the time?
There isn't one, really, they basically exist to sell you leftover chips for what, a 20% higher price at basically no cost to themselves
any "super" model is a fricking ripoff.
>16GB memory
So this is their move to separate their AI cards from gaming cards. Frick em. Hope AMD can increase their position for AI
How energy efficient are new gpu anyways, no one talks about that shit
Just in time to disappoint morons for not waiting for RTX 5000 in Q4
GET REKT homosexualS
>4070 Super: $599
>4070TI Super: $799
>4080 Super: $1199-$999
>4070TI and 4080 non-Super models to EoL on Super launch.
>4070 Supa
>220W
Would a 600W Cosair AX suffice along w/ a 5800x3D?
you would be riding the knife's edge once you account for power spikes
even if nothing turns off outright, your PSU won't last long and it will fail much sooner than it should
at least get a 700w brick
Yup its like a weightlifter constantly lifting at his PB vs half his weight, its far less stressful to have plenty of overhead on a PSU.
Cant replace PSU, so sticking w/ just regular 4070@200W is a more power appropriate pairing?
don't tell me you fell for the motherfricking "bro just buy an used office PC and throw a gpu in" eceleb meme
Nah, I made a SFF. Im eying CPU upgrade and GPU, so I dont want to have to replace the goddamn PSU too. That's too much goddamn money.
>I made a SFF
my condolences
you still have time to go back to a real form factor, so better start planning it
Aside from needlessly expensive on certain aspects, SFF is fine. I travel for work, so it makes it easy to bring the Velkase 7 a long w/.
The 5800x3D is good multitasker too right? I dont stream or AI, but do YouTube while doing gaming, so it should be robust enough for that and a little more?
games don't really notice the jump from 6 to 8 cores. so yeah it'll multitask fine.
I've ran a R7 3700X (now R5 5600) and a slightly undervolted RTX 3070 (also 220W TDP) on a SF450 for about 3 years now in an older Velka 5
600W is fine
I have a 3060ti, im not gonna paid anything above 500 bucks soon.
>tfw still rocking my 3060ti
>tfw still rocking my 1070
>3 year old gpu
>still
yes, and I will continue to use it for the next 4-5 years at least, instead of being a consoomer and upgrading every single year to the latest meme fad
Not him but he's saying the use of >still is redundant since its only been 3 years
>3070 is sold used for 350€ 2 hours away
>sold within hours
>sold within hours
what a slow sale, is the gpu market this stagnant now?
4000 series has been a dud like the 2000 series unless you own a 4090. Wait for the 50 series.
Even if the 5000 series is actually good it's going to be scalped and sold out forever. I would never buy an AMD GPU unless it was half the price for the same performance.
this is why you only upgrade GPU every ~5 years, so that you can buy last-gen stuff for cheaper / not pay scalpgays
I still have a 970 I got in like 2016, been way over 5 years. I'm not buying last gen, though. There isn't enough VRAM. 16GB is the minimum so I'm buying a 4070ti super.
What games worth playing suddenly need 16 gigs??
Ratchet and Clank goes over 12GB and has much worse performance on 12GB cards
That's sad. Doesn't even look that good
Modern graphics look like absolute dogshit. Everything is some TAA'd up, upscaled, AI frame generated, blurry, ghosting low performance mess that looks like shit compared to games from 2015. Graphics took a step back in the name of realtime lighitng and other nonsense. You may as well play games on a 15 year old first gen flat screen display if you're going to put up with modern rendering techniques murdering image quality. The morons over at DF LOVE TAA and DLSS upscaling. This industry is just shit.
you know what's the biggest irony? and why people are starting to cope with goyframes looking better than native? because they aren't technically wrong
DLSS gives everything a sharpening pass which does make shit look sharper while not in motion, and the vaseline ghosting smears don't matter in motion because goys already play with motion blur up the ass anyway
wonder how long it will take AMD to realize they can just bypass the graphics API like reshade does to replace TAA with an actually decent antialiasing and make everything look just as good as DLSS without the massive waste of AI training
>DUDE DLSS is free frames. It looks just as good as native
>What do you mean compare the screenshots with TAA turned off?
TAA off can also have a deleterious effect on image quality, particularly in motion when every aliased object flickers.
>The morons over at DF LOVE TAA and DLSS upscaling.
they are literal goyvidia paid shills that gave aveum a blowjob for it's goytracing and wanked how it was real time lightning while showing exactly zero light sources are actually dynamic and instead it was all baked in
not a single projectile or otherwise even pretended to shine light on any object
this is a feature that has been a thing since at least the original quake THREE FRICKING DECADES AGO
if it had 24gb of vram and was $1000 cheaper then maybe but im sticking with my 1070ti
>you can't even get a 4080 for less than RRP new yet
>the 4080 Super will be at least a 25% uplift in price
PC gaming is over.
What do you even need a super-modern GPU for? Modern games are mostly shit / goyslop.
I don't give (You)s to people who use FOTM words.
pretty sure you can still get a refurb mining 1650 for like 50 bucks and run 99% of the games worth playing at 1080p 60fps ultra native and 0.5% of the rest at cuckscaled 1080p 30fps ultra
>x3d CPU
>novidya GPU
How bad of an idea is this?
That's the most sensible option out of all of them.
Yeah but what about muh smart access
That's just another name for resizable BAR, which Nvidia also supports.
The 4070 WRX STi seems like the best one to look forward to.
To bad it's going to be expensive as frick and I already got a 7800XT for 7700XT pricing.
Nvidia can crush AMD if they just weren't so fricking greedy.
>entire 4xxx series so far is a insult to everybody and expensive as frick
>But these super versions are going to fix it, i swear!!!
Lol.
Vote with your wallet, dont buy nvidia this gen or they will never learn.
Both AyyMD and noVideo are fricking us over.
The only way for that to change is no sales for both of them and that ain't happening.
Dont buy the new AAA games
Dont buy the new GPU's
Play old&indie games.
>2014
>Nvidias review guides shilling their $600 cards for 4k
>2024
>Nvidias review guides shilling their $600 cards for 1080p
lmao
it's because modern pajeet devs can't optimize
see:
eh
It's also a change in standards. Back when Crysis released people were happy to run it at all and amazed at playing 30fps medium, changing game settings to get something better, and understood ultra settings were just there for screenshots. Nowadays much of the PC market is morons bandwagoning off "pc master race XD" memes, thinking PC gaming always meant running shit at everything ultra settings 144 fps minimum
Most people don't bother checking setting at all when they launch the game.
really?
honestly one of the first things I do in every game is check the settings.
even just to see the options maybe make sure to turn some shit off, like hints, or switch hold to toggle for shit..
Steam should really create a system where users can share graphics settings. Like an Steam API function where a game detects what GPU you are using and can load profiles other people created for your GPU like they already do for controllers. I'm really not sure why this hasn't been done yet, it just seems like a no brainer.
This is what's so fricked. My gtx 480 could run 1440p fine.
So can the 4070
But why haven't we evolved past 4k 10 years later? 1080p was possible in the late 2000s.
First of all, it has, it's just an extreme meme.
Second, 1080p to 4k isn't a linear scaling, it's 4 times more pixels.
See how much time it took to move from 800*600 to 1600*1200 during the 00s.
there's zero reason for games today to take exponentially more hardware to run when they look worse than games from a decade ago
especially when said games from a decade ago run flawlessly even on high native resolutions and on budget current-gen cards
ESPECIALLY when said games use actually good antialiasing to look crisp instead of the blurry slop we get these days
>when they look worse than games from a decade ago
this is something you can say on an imageboard but go boot up a game from 2013 and you'll instantly see that games looked undeniably worse before especially in terms of lighting and distant LODs
but hey if you think every game used to look like arkham knight or crysis then yeah let's say games looked better then
Refresh your memory and also check your eyes.
The market runs on the lowest common denominator, in other words morons with **60 series cards control evolution.
exactly, thats the problem
No it isn't because your 480 can't run new games at 1440p, 4070 can.
Nta but the issue here is that a 13 year old gpu can run its era of games at 1440p and the new one has the same resolution is not impressive
We've already established anon was lying because its era games had no 1440p. It was 1600*1200 at best.
1200 in 2010 is the equivalent of 4k today.
A 480 could run SOME games at 1600*1200, mostly old ones that were used as benchmarks forever., just like the 4070 can run SOME games at 4k. Any UE4 game, for example.
I bought my dell u2711 monitor in 2012 and played in 1440p on it. Previous to that, I had a 2048x1152 monitor.
Whatever, that's like buying an ultrawide 4k today, it was a non standard resolution. Also your memory isn't reliable. You can't tell me what frames you were getting.
Also, the point still stands, but nice of you to ignore it.
Of course I don't have any benchmarks, but I absolutely couldn't play at 30 fps.
I'm not the anon that stated having a 480, but good try dodging the point anyways
>n-no you d-don't understand cards were soooooooooo much better before they could run everything at 1440p, a resolution that wasn't even common in 2010.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-fermi/10.html
I ran crysis warhead at 1440p 60 fps in like 2012 on my gtx 480
That's bullshit. I got a GTX 580 and it couldn't even max out games at 1080p when I got it. It came with Arkham City and it couldn't even max the game it came with.
Probably not a stable 60 but it was a really powerful card. I maxed out every game.
No, it couldn't even hit stable 60.
Arkham probably required more then. I'm not talking about crysis 2 or 3.
I just know I had a GTX 280 and then a GTX 580 and was disgusted by the performance for the price with both of them. GPUs are way better now. Neither of them could max out a game at 1080p smoothly.
Not my video, but the settings made little no difference. I didn't even finish Arkham City until I upgraded my GPU because it was so bad.
My 480 could absolutely game at 1080p, which resolution I had been using since 2008. Other bottlenecks?
>32x AA
have you tried not being a fricking moron?
>it's d-doesn't count
And when we tell you to turn off RT and go down from 4k, you throw a fit that you should be able to max everything out
32xAA is akin to assuming 16k is the norm, it's fricking moronic.
>I max out every game and drop to 30 fps that means I can run it.
It's fricking pointless to discuss anything without first establishing a baseline for what is considered "running", which is judging from these threads now means 4k 240Hz with Ultra RT on, all running on a XX60 card, otherwise it's not optimized.
Below 60 is unplayable to me. Of course I mean 60+.
Then if it wasn't stable 60, then it's not "playable" according to yourself.
True, it would have been annoying. But at that point I'd just lower the settings.
But lowering the settings now is apparently a sin a lost art.
morons bought so hard into the console shilling of 4k, all their baseline is completely skewed.
My 480 eventually succumbed.
lowering settings does nothing now you stupid homosexual
Don't talk to me, moron. You don't even play video games.
>drops from ultra to medium
>WOWIE ZOWIE 10 FPS
don't talk to me Black person
sounds like a botched windows or driver install
since ever you always had to uninstall nvidia drivers when upgrading even within the same series to prevent issues
RTX 4090 TI = 9 inches + condom thickness (if you're one of those gays) basically only porngays would want this to work in the porn industry.
RTX 4080 = 8 inches , still overkill, but nobody, no b***h, no homosexual, no woman can ever call you smol unless they work in porn or took too many dildos and cucumbers up there.
RTX 4070 = 7 inches , lucky 7-7-7 , absolute perfection, you don't need anything bigger nor smaller than this.
RTX 4060 = 6 inches, very average sometimes considered above average, nothing extra, it does its job well, still leaves a little to be wanted, but only a little.
RTX 4050 = 5 inches, for budget gays who only need the bare minimum, sometimes it's not considered enough.
Stop having sex with unoptimized queen-sized hookers, bro. 4080 fills up anyone and is a clear cervix hitter that maxes out your CPU.
watch less porn anon please
I wonder what kind of porn he watches if all he cares about is dick sizes.
>Memory Clock
>Gbps
I'm still getting by with a 2070 for 1440p so far. Only thing it would have trouble with would be slop like Starfield.
This will probably be the last year of its life though, it's biggest issue is 8 GB VRAM.
Waaaaaooooowww, is that a
A 5% increase !?
Oh my Hawkins, my Riemann and my holy ack
>4070 Ti Super:
>16GB memory, 33% higher bandwidth
If they don't screw the pooch on pricing, this looks like an easy buy for me.
yeah no shit, every card would be great if they were cheaper.
we don't know the price at all yet.
we already know it's going to be too much
if it's closer to the 70ti than the 80 i'm satisfied.
Good goy.
$799
For a $400 card.
How much do you value a card which outperforms a 3090?
$400. Can you not tread?
buying any singular piece of computer hardware for any higher than 500 bucks is asinine
even 400 is pushing it
Based. We all thought 900€ was wild for a gpu when the titan cards came.
It makes me wish SLI stuck around because it was a reason to keep cards from bloating in size AND price since they were hoping you would buy two of them.
in a sane world the xx60 cards would be 200-250$ the xx70 would be 350$, the xx80 cards should be around 450$ and the xx90 cards should be 600$ at most with appropriate power bumps each tier to warrant the price.
nvidia duped the entire consumerbase.
when the covid supplier pricehike was like 5% or so at most and after the coof was forgotten and not the current thing anymore supplier prices actually went down to levels lower than before the coof.
nvidia is only charging those prices because people are willing to pay those prices and amdo is just following suit.
nvidia also could not really give less of a shit about their gpu marketshare.
theyre just keeping the division so amd doesnt become a monopoly in case nvidias ai venture doesnt print money anymore.
thats what nvidia is doing right now. they have record profits because of AI.
>nvidia is only charging those prices because it's worth it and nobody can compete
okay.
that was the case before the rtx cards as well.
nvidia is the whole package, great drivers, great cards and fantastic extra features.
they always charged appropriately though.
take that nvidia dick out of your ass anon. you are being fricking scammed and happly ask for more.
AMD market share has declined since RTX 2000. Because their cards are shit and no discount will make up for that fact.
It hasn't really declined. AMD keep saying their sales are higher than ever. What has changed is the market becoming way more visible.
On Steam there used to be a marketshare of around 25-30% for AMD - Then PUBG happend and with that the chinese invaded Steam - suddenly AMDs marketshare dropped from 25-30% to around 10-13% pretty much over night. Because all of Chinas internet cafes run standardized Nvidia hardware. AMD wasn't even available there for the longest time with them only going in recently with things like the GRE GPUs.
I will stay with my 3070.
Had it for 3 years and I hope it doesn't break for at least 3 more.
Thought this pic was a still from Batman:TAS.
>tfw can't rape the joker with my bros
Still not upgrading.
Waiting for 5000
Is that the name or the cost in US dollars?
>4070 Super still only has 12 GB VRAM
Lmao. Dead on Arrival.
That's plenty for 1440p
Not with recent UE5 releases. Those reach 13-14 GBVRAM at 1440p easily.
Unless you go down to medium-high settings of course but nobody who spends over 500 Bucks on a GPU is gonna do that.
>Unless you go down to medium-high settings of course but nobody who spends over 500 Bucks on a GPU is gonna do that.
everyone with a brain goes down to high settings unless they're taking screenshots
ultra is a total marketing meme pushed by GPU manufacturers to make you upgrade earlier, it's like 1% visual gain for -15% performance
you can lower your textures to high and you won't tell the difference but gain a lot of free VRAM
>7800 XT can hit ultra settings on 1440p pretty much everywhere
>but now that Nvidia is cheapening out on VRAM ultra suddenly becomes "unreasonable"
I hate those shills.
>7800 XT can hit ultra settings on 1440p pretty much everywhere
yes and let's say you have 100fps. or you can lower your settings to high for 99.9% the same visual quality to have 120fps and less VRAM usage too. that has nothing to do with tribalism because both sides fall for the ultra meme
I got extra 20 frames in Cyberpunk by lowering SSR and Volumetric fog resolution to medium on that card.
It was still a solid 80+ with everything but RT maxxed at 1440p native though so still very much playable.
>Unless you go down to medium-high settings of course but nobody who spends over 500 Bucks on a GPU is gonna do that.
i'm on 7900xtx and i try to minmax my graphics settings between medium/high/ultra too squeeze out extra fps for minimal visual degradation at 4k, if it helps me lock to my 120hz goal i'm happy and i'm not gonna weep just because reflections had to be on high instead of ultra+
would you recommend it over a 7800 xt or a 4080?
Its the highest I can pay for a GPU
How is the power draw after the last updates?
The 4080 is a bad deal, just be a good goy and go for either a 4090 or stick with a 4070.
500 is like the cheapest gpu today
at this point i'd only consider the 4070s of any kind of if you're looking to chase 165hz or 240hz on 1080p but for 1440p they're not the best option
Take it to Ganker. This shit is not video game discussion
>buying nvidia anything in current year
I'm alright with my RX6750xt thanks.
Are they gonna bundle them with a good game or will it still come with this dogshit Geforce Now bundle? Why in the frick are they bundling GPUs with a service meant for people with no GPU anyway?
>4070 doesn't have enough VRAM for 1440p
>4070 Ti has but it's also gonna be like 900 bucks
Guess the 7800 XT will remain the best choice in that regard
>4070 doesn't have enough VRAM for 1440p
I've yet to see a 1440p game to pass 7GB.
Cyberpunk barely needs 5.5.
UE5 games require 6.
4070Ti Super looks kinda promising ngl, but knowing jeyvidia they probably will sell it almost same price as a 4080.
Well at least im hoping to see they release a portable version of it since I wanna get a laptop in the future, and top tier mobile gpus are a fricking meme, specially the 4090m, 2K for having around 40% performance vs desktop version, talk about being a israelite lmao.
I've never had any reason to upgrade beyond my 3080.
>muh vram
don't care.
>I've never had any reason to upgrade beyond my relatively new card
You don't say, moron.
Only braindead morons upgrade each gen
>spend over 700 bucks on a brand new Nvidia GPU that advertises itself as the best choice for 1440p and even 4k
>"dude just lower the settings"
>"dude just use DLSS - what do you mean the game doesn't have it?"
>"dude should have bought a 4090 instead"
>base your purchase directly on marketing from the manufacturer instead of benchmarks and tests
no one should have given you any advice, they should've just called you an idiot and moved on
Remember when Nvidia claimed that the 4070 was gonna be three times as fast as the 3070?
You idiots keep falling for the same bullshit each generation.
*up to 3 times faster**
**with DLSS 3.5 when the planet faces 5 degrees north of the milky way during a solar eclipse
>4070 is three times as fast
>with framegen
>while the 3070 isn't using frame gen
Yeah and Nikocado isn't obese if i ignore 80% of his weight.
moron I was agreeing with you
its all garbage still
>dude 12 GB VRAM is perfectly fine just lower the settings bro
I bet you guys are the same idiots who fell for the 3070 Ti and GTX 970 meme.
should i wait on getting a 7900 xtx (+7800x3d)? building pc from a 6700k/2070s but i keep second guessing whether i should wait for the next gpu line up
According to some rumors AMD will not push out a 7900 XTX successor with the next generation so it might remain the most powerful GPU for an additional 2 years on their end.
But again: That's just rumors.
the 8000 series will either be a meme refresh worse than the 7000 series or experimental new tech like the 5700xt
both are laughably bad options you shouldn't buy them
you're better off buying now and waiting for the 9000 series when either actual improvements happen or the experimental meme tech gets smoothed out
ok, thanks anons. i was thinking of paying the extra $100 for the sapphire nitro over the pulse since i heard it runs a little hot
Unless you are set on getting AMD, I'd wait to see how the 4080 pans out, since that's soon and it'll be similarly priced
But idk, spending ~$1000 on a card less than a year from a new gen will never sit right with me
why would you want a 4080 that runs a good bit slower than a card that costs $200 less?
4090 is literally rebranded titan
Ok nvidia marketing materials
The titan actually had different drivers for extra performance on professional software, 4090's drivers are cucked in that regard.
If that was the case there would be much cheaper slightly slower GPU as well. Instead we got 4070 called 4080. 4060Ti called 4070Ti etc.
I will never buy Nvidia again.
Will not pay more than $499 for a gpu.
you don't actually use dlss, right? my little anons aren't THAT moronic, right?
Said like a true AMD poorgay
t. DLAA 4090 enjoyer
do you also watch 480p video with muh 4k AI remastering?
>doesn't know what DLAA is
Good job moron
>AI AA
lmao so still looks worse than the original image
most of the people who frequent these threads don't know anything about tech released after the year of their own graphics cards (so circa 2016)
>new cards are not affordable
>performance difference is almost non existent
gee I wonder why
difference is almost non existent
laughing at you from my 4090
>DLAA
is just hardware accelerated TAA that's able to blur more accurately because engine integrated TAA is optimized for minimal overhead.
You say that like it's a problem. Good TAA is sorely needed these days.
TAA is a solution to an unnecessary problem. It stopped being about better AA after SMAAT2X and instead became a way to hide render hacks (e.g. dithering for cheap transparency) by blurring the frick out of the image like FXAA on consoles. At the end of the day it's still postprocess AA and the best you can do is hope the dev masks UI and text properly so not everything is blurred.
True transparency scales terribly with scene complexity and resolution. There's a reason gamedevs shifted towards techniques like that and there's a need to use a high quality TAA because of it.
>scales terribly with scene complexity and resolution
Modern rendering techniques magnify that cost, but 90% of games barely use the large quantities of dynamic lights they make cheap. Most games would still be fine with baked lighting.
Yes I do in some games use DLSSQ combined with DLDSR. It's in 99% cases going to give you better static and motion image quality than native without DLDSR and DLSSQ, especially in games where the native implementation of TAA isn't good. You'll knock it now, but if you ever try it you'll see why this combo is held in high regard.
>DLSSQ combined with DLDSR.
isn't that upscaling just to downscale?
https://www.windowscentral.com/nvidia-dlss-dsr-dldsr
apparently. fricking crazy what people will do cause of marketing.
I use superior DLAA instead.
morons on Ganker dont even know what dlss does. they just think more fps = good
and morons on Ganker still can't tell the difference between frame generation and upscaling as you can see in these threads
all tech is bad and gimmicky unless it's readily available everywhere then suddenly it's good, just like how gamers suddenly stopped caring about input lag once amd rolled out their own version of frame generation but it was somehow a dealbreaker before that
>the difference between frame generation and upscaling
they're both for gay brown morons.
>just like how gamers suddenly stopped caring about input lag once amd rolled out their own version of frame generation
maybe because they're also knuckle dragging jeets that identify with they products they buy.
I bought every parts of my PC but the GPU, pic related is what I got. I'm doing 3D work with Blender, Unreal, Houdini, Zbrush and others. What should I get? I have no rig for the moment, been working on a laptop for a while and this will be my firs set up in a decade.
Any tips?
My initial plan was to buy the 4080 Super and see from then when the 5xxx series is released if I should get one or a 4090.
Either the 4080 Super or the 4070 Ti Super
I'd lean towards the 4070 Ti Super if you're serious about upgrading to RTX 50 so soon
Gaming is my second concern ngl. I'm getting back into it this year but I'm not playing most of the AAA games that were released, especially the most beautiful ones.
I'm planning on myabe playing Elden Ring and Cyberpunk.
> I'd lean towards the 4070 Ti Super if you're serious about upgrading to RTX 50 so soon
How's the lower version better than the other one, I gueninely don't get it.
If you're upgrading to RTX 50 so soon afterwards, put the difference between the 2 models towards the RTX 50.
The 4080S and 4070 TiS have the same VRAM and near identical memory bandwidth.
If the 20% CUDA core difference is a substantial boost to your render times (check benchmarks after release), then yeah go with the 4080S.
If I assume it's professional work where you earn money then maybe you don't even need to check benchmarks, any boost would be justified for the 4080S.
>Because israelitevidia marketed the 4060 as 4070, and the 4050 as a 4060.
This basically completely killed this gen
If the 4080 was actually 4070 and had 4070 pricing, the poor 7800XT wouldn't stand a chance.
>the poor 7800XT
Let's not pretend AMD wasn't bullshitting either. How much stronger is the 7800XT than the 6800xt? Like 2-3%? It's no better than israelitevidia's 3060-4060 shit.
>the poor 7800XT wouldn't stand a chance.
Yet AyyMD did the same as israelitevidya, 7700XT is a 7600XT, and 7800XT is a 7700XT, at least their prices weren't so shit, same with the Vram amount, but still, they did it too.
Tbh, this gen was pretty much to forcefeed buyers with upscaling + AV1 codec.
What are the chances that we'll ever get new competitors to Nvidia and AMD for graphics cards? Or will we be forever stuck with this two-party system until the end of time?
That's what Intel is trying to do
Did you just miss the entirety of their Arc GPUs?
Unless ARM does something about it, we will still be kept on this two party GPU system. Intel doesn't got shit to even make a CPU now, so even forget that their GPUs will do something at all.
And they failed miserably on it, mostly thanks to drivers. I just see these GPUs useful for Adobe premiere gays tbh.
anti aliasing should always be off. blur always looks like shit
>anti aliasing should always be off.
enjoy your endless jagged pixelized edges and lack of proper transparencies because neighboring pixels are fighting for their place
i'm sorry, but you bought a $1200+ gpu in the year 2022+ so not run your games at 8k?
i would take that over simulating corneal ectasia with the shitty blur
no aa will look passable in still images but as soon as you turn the camera it'll look you've got LSD especially with all the pixel shaders and effects of modern graphics
Imagine not just using SSAA for the best quality image.
SSAA won't fix temporal aliasing.
SSAA is dead
Is amd really that bad for ai and casual 3d work?
>play game in 4k
>no noticeable aliasing
>anti-aliasing method becomes a non-issue and the game is no longer jagged or blurry
Huh
>>play game in 4k
>>no noticeable aliasing
>>anti-aliasing method becomes a non-issue and the game is no longer jagged or blurry
this. what the frick are people needing AA to blur a sharp, high resolution image for?
stop lying, I can still see aliasing and shimmering on 27" 4K display
nothing eliminates jaggies as effectively as TAA not even supersampling
no spatial post will perfectly remove jaggies, you need a temporal solution
if you're concerned about softer image just use DLAA
Someone plays with his face 1 inch away from the screen it seems.
move back 3" and you now don't have shimmer lmao
You're either lying or playing some broke ass games. I've got a 28" 4K monitor and never see either. TAA isn't that bad at this res since pushing more pixels means the blur is applied more accurately, but you could say the same about any postprocess AA.
>broke ass games
aliasing is more prominent in modern games because they have more detail and many rendering techniques like dithering instead of true transparency (so basically all new games since they all use deferred rendering) require TAA to clean up the image
want an example?
launch yakuza kiwami 2 or really any dragon engine game and the shimmering is unbearable, it's there even if you supersample with DSR
now launch judgment which has the same problem but enable DLAA and watch it be perfectly anti aliased with no shimmering and no loss of clarity
>yakuza kiwami 2
>judgment
my condolences for playing modern RGG kusoge.
okay want another example?
grass in rdr2 looks like shit and shimmers without taa
king cerberus fire effect in dmc5 heavily uses dithering and looks like shit without aa
resident evil 4 remake has similar issue mostly with hair
>shimmers without taa
That's not generally the effect you'd get without TAA.
>capcom games
Yeah they abuse the frick out of dithering but that results in a grainy artifacted appearance on the textures before TAA.
Lost Judgment is the best RGG game but 0 gays wouldn't understand playing a game for its quality, it's all about the [current thing].
why not just play good, old games instead
I play both new and old games
I used K2 as the example because it's very prominent there
I replayed the entire franchise just before Gaiden's launch 2 months ago
>still crying about frame generation
Looks like poorgays didn't get the memo.
You can mod FSR3 into your games now, and use framegen on your decade old GPUs and get double frames.
You don't have to get scammed by evil Nvidia anymore and buy modern, up to date hardware anymore.
>on cards no one owns
wait, do anons turn on AI for video too? i didn't think Ganker was this underage
reading threads like these makes me realize games getting shittier is only part of the reason Ganker has grown out of games, still being stuck on a gtx 960 ensures you can't really play anything new either so it all must be shit and all tech must be a gimmick
>casually buying $2000 gpu cards
wtf i remember getting the radeon 5600 for like $60 and everything ran great after that
cryptoshit + the coof + AI shit + goyvidia raising prices sky high because scalpers + games being unoptimized slop now to sell newer gpus + AMD getting spooked and raising the prices after goyvidia because it's literally free money
>games being unoptimized slop now
my current very old pc gets like 2500 fps in UT. new games are a joke
>games being unoptimized slop now
>now
Underage newfriend, please.
AMD are raising prices to get more revenue from shipping lower volumes. Until chiplets are standard across their gpu lineup they don't have enough margin to be worth the opportunity cost of shipping enough gpus (vs cpus) to seriously compete with nvidia on market share. That said yes they are also being greedy israelites because the market will take it.
>That said yes they are also being greedy israelites because the market will take it.
blame goyvidia for raising the bar first
Blame scalpers and Chink miners.
If they haven't pulled off their shit, even nvidiya wouldn't have had an excuse to raise the prices that high.
all the fricking idiots buy this shit, so what? no one is to blame beside all the fricking morons that buy this overpriced crap.
If you're a miner, you will still make more profit, no matter how high the price is.
you need more?
Yes, that old piece of shit can't run anything anymore.
You joke but I have yet to see a game worth playing that doesn't run at minimum all cranked at 1080p native 60 fps on a 1050 ti or a RX 570.
And I say this as someone with a newer GPU.
Where did the soul go?
yeston still exists
This is NOT soul.
That is soul, it's not my problem westoid goyslop became so corporatized and boring.
>soul
Nice try, if it came out today you'd be crying about it the same way you cry about rgb
No one has ever complained about these cards, fourth hand experience, aesthetically impaired zoomer.
>reading comprehension
No shit nobody complained about them, because old=good.
Dumb Black person
>4070ti
>192 bit
>pic related
>2003
what the FRICK is the excuse for this?
Because bus speed actually doesn't mean much
bus width by itself means nothing
4070ti has a bandwidth of around 500 GB/s while the 9800pro has 21.76 GB/s despite 9800pro having a wider bus
vega 56 had a 2048 bit bus, why isn't everyone slobbering over that card now?
because there's more to bandwidth than just bus width
4070ti is alright in terms of specs, it's the price that's 30% over the top
I have a 1060 🙁
I’m thinking of upgrading. But my pc is piss poor slow. Any tips?
i5 9400 or some shit
1060 6gb
16gb ram
Forgot to add it takes an hour to boot to desktop and finish loading everything.
that's plenty. don't worry about upgrading for a few years.
I’ll take your word for it I guess. I wanted to play at 1440p. Guess I’ll have to stick to 1080p or some shit.
720p? 480p is plenty i would say.
That’s not what I said you silly goose! XD
Get either a 3060 or rx 6600, those will do good for that cpu, vidya wise you godd btw, if you want, you could look for a 9700k used if your mobo supports overclocking if you want a cheap upgrade without changing the motherboard.
But if you wanna build new, pick up a Ryzen 7600 or 7500f (the f one is on aliexpress for cheap) an asrock or gigabyte A620 mobo and cheap ddr5, even a slow 4800mhz DDR5 will do the job like a 3200mhz DDR4 performance wise.
I’ll look into getting a 3060 then. Thanks for the advice. I’m only after a graphics card upgrade and a way to boot my pc faster.
>a way to boot my pc faster.
Buy a NVME SSD, since that platform only supports Pcie 3.0, get a Rocket Q.
RTX 3060 is good and has 12vram which helps for 1440p, though I dunno if would use that res on that gpu, at least on modern shit optimized vidya.
At least when I tested a RX 6600 with my i5 8400 itx at that time, it gave me around 120fps on REmake 2, and the Remake of RE4 with a Ryzen 5500, which is kinda like a 9700k, was around 87fps on high settings. Both are pretty good, RX 6600 just has a much better price imo, also frick raytracing, its a meme, I dont even bother using that stuff with my 3090.
Forgot to add it was at 1080p resolution, probably RE4 remake at 1440 would have been close to 60fps on those settings, but I never tested that res.
I though novidea reached 5090 by now as for AMD their moronic naming scheme I never cared to learn.
Feels good being out of the loop I feel like I time traveled.
Ayymd is nvidia +3000
I still run an AMD FX CPU.
Last GPU gen I'm familiar with is Pascal/Polaris
Never and I mean NEVER was familiar with Incel's moronic naming scheme
Nobody asked I know, feels good being an oldgay Chad. I still believe TW3 looks impressive.
>Yeah I don't participate in your hobby anymore, aren't I cool
The frick are you doing here, grandpa?
>I still run an AMD FX CPU.
So you are still moronic after all these years then? What a pro
hi NVISRAEL shill, kys
It's ok you can't afford them anyway.
>poo in loo marketer paid 1c per posts is projecting
many such cases!
But you can't afford it.
>16gb
why the frick, people want these for ai now you need to do better
Why do you guys have 4 FOUR different 4070 cards ahahahahahaha? What the frick is this shite, back in my day you could buy a 1070 or 1070Ti.
My backlog is so big I'll never have to buy one of these just came here to laugh at you zoomer scum. See you in 8 years or so when I upgrade.
>YAAAAAS GOY, CHASE THAT SHINY NEW OVERPRICED DOODAD GOOD GOYIM CATTLEEEEEEE
Last smartphone I am familiar with was the S10.
Last iPhone I know was the one that kept bending.
Haven't watched a tech related video in like 5 years. Feels good man.
r u a girl?
I'm not a groomer
I'm just a boomer
Beside Cyberpunk with path tracing I don't see anything that should require me more than the 2070 super, I hope this console gen lasts 4 more years just so they cant' make up shit about you needing to upgrade your PC.
Look at this, Weird West, a great game, I wish more people played it, is basically an immersive sim with lots of freedom, and I like how it looks, but is pretty much on par with Borderlands 1 and I have to run it at 1920x1080 to avoid cooking my GPU.
itt i am luddite hear me roar
Well zoomers it's been fun talking to you. Have fun choosing between 4 4070's I'mma go and play Spore again. Those Grox frickers will feel my wrath.
advertise your trash somewhere else Nvidia shill
>no price
good goyim