>Ruins canon
>Retcons estabilished story/characters
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
>Still praised by "fans"
I dont think we can recover from this
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>Ruins canon. >Retcons estabilished story/characters. >Filled to the brim with political propaganda
>we
Speak for yourself, homosexual. No I won't elaborate.
Wrong board
You mean... use my wiener?
You can't have 0 in a skill you stupid frick, it should be 1/75.
Jesus christ, if this show is making trannies like this seethe so much, I want more of it
xd
Halfway through the show and enjoying it but knowing the whole thing was written to bait white gamers into watching some israelite black'd cuck fantasy and having a black get to ''play out' what they think are fantasy is just makes me not want to finish it
why did you start in the first place?
Never understood how white people became the most sensitive babies on the planet. Show literally starts out with a white male black female couple and focuses on it a decent bit. Then cry about cucking when a black male white female shows up on screen for 2 seconds.
This line was so fricking bizarre. I saw it posted here before I got to episode 6 and I genuinely didn't believe it was real.
Did you not find every scene with Maximus bizarre? You're just as autistic as he is.
>a line of dialogue is bizarre
>but necrotic post-humans, super-mutants, and rattlesnake & coyote hybrids are fine
>We need to throw our standards out for good writing, because....le zany setting!
have a nice day.
Old World Blues won
Penis fingers won
Yes moron. Characters need to act and talk believably in a setting which requires some suspension of disbelief for a story to be good
That whole conversation was so bizarre and unrealistic that it completely broke my immersion. They think that people "forgot" how to have sex in 200 years? I guarantee that in a post apocalyptic wasteland with no civilization and nothing better to do NO ONE is going to forget how to have sex
Why are you so stupid?
Why are you? He talks about getting hard and ejaculating like it's something that is wrong and unusual with him. Humans have been fricking for thousands of years, but these morons think that knowledge would somehow be lost after 200 years in a wasteland where the games have already implied that sex and degeneracy runs rampant
Not that anon but isn't this supposed to be a brotherhood thing? They're a weird techno hermit cult. I don't think that's the same thing as being a general wastelander
>men and women living in the same barracks
>implying there isn't regular fricking going on
Come on now... He was even close with that other woman at the base
>men and women living in the same barracks
So did you not watch the show or?
Are people really this moronic? What happened?
KEK. I was ready to call you a moron, but you know what anon, I have to concede that you're right. I genuinely thought the character of "Dane" was supposed to be a woman. Of course, now that I looked it up, I see that the actress who plays him is one of those women who pretends to be a man and we were supposed to see that thing and recognize it as a male character. Talk about NOT PASSING at all.... wow
>Talk about NOT PASSING at all
Not their problem lol
the funniest part was after he used the razor blade in the boot to get out of Squire duty in the next scene he's grown the most pathetic looking mustache
you’re a fricking dumbass, the actor is nonbinary, the CHARACTER is a transman
Pls have a nice day for knowing the difference
The "character" and "actor" are both trannies any further elaboration reflects poorly on you
The Brotherhood absolutely knows about sex, they had to carefully select partners to maintain healthy population after so many got shot by the NCR.
>weird cult that needs members to breed doesnt know about sex
Wut?
You're either a shitposting bot or an actual mentally deficient bonobo, the BoS keeps their numbers up breeding amongst themselves.
What if he's uneducated and sexually repressed?
Is that really so unthinkable for you? You can't even imagine the possibility?
It hit too close to home for a lot of virgins who would naturally be 1 to 2 INT in the games. Maximus is a hilarious jackass doing a based moron 2 INT build
Lucy comes from a vault of breeders, whether she knows it or not. She taught to have sex and make babies with people of differing genes.
Maximum is an autist raised by military religious nutjobs
>vault of breeders
Almost everyone is middle-aged in Vault 33. There are no children at all. Nobody's breeding there, anon.
maximus is a brotherhood of steel autist, all he knows is his training
Did you inherently know that your dick was designed to go into a weird looking hole?
Yeah, it got hard when I saw a naked lady and put 2 and 2 together
I haven't watched fallout, but they did that in Demolition Man, and Sleeper, a pre-fricking his daughter woody Allen movie.
It's this thing called humor. Early 2000's movies are filled to the brim with dialog like this. Why are people pretending like they know nothing about nothing nowadays?
>thinking the Brotherhood taught some kid they picked up what puberty was when he even admits he's too afraid to jerk off cause his thing swells and explodes.
There's someone jerking off next to him in his intro.
You mean, exploding their dick. Gross, but sometimes it has to happen. Or so I heard.
why did she want to have sex with him?
It's the only thing she's good at, she's a hole. What the frick did Amazon mean by this?
i thought shes a mary sue
Because he was nice to her and she's a horny vaulter who only had sex once event though she was raised to breed.
When that scene happened, I genuinely thought they must be pumping drugs/aphrodisiacs into the room. It seemed like the only reasonable explanation for that dialogue.
Honestly a fricking hilarious scene, Maximus' confusion, his adherence to imagined BoS dogma and desire to be a "real" knight, in spite of pretty much betraying Brotherhood and in spite of knowing real Knights are petty, arrogant buttholes.
>real Knights are petty, arrogant buttholes
troony bullshit. fricking homosexuals. every one of you should jump off a cliff
In the show, of course. The show Brotherhood is pretty different from the games, yeah.
Mr. House appearing did put a smile on my face.
>I dont think we can recover from this
We've been fricked for a while now. You're just only now catching up.
Well, revealing that New Vegas was completely destroyed in the end did it for me. They REALLY hate the real fans and Obsidian.
are you uh
fricking blind or just stupid?
coper
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not interested in your video but go ahead and watch the last episode again and this time open your fricking moronic eyes at the end.
It was destroyed. Did you not watch the credits you dumb frick? The credits show how it's abandoned you fricking drone.
There's smoke coming out of the settlements.
The show makes it clear that House knows the exact date the bombs will drop. In the game he only knows that it's coming soon, which is why his plan is botched. He needed just a another day. The show makes House look like a moron for not having his shit together when he knows the exact date.
at no point did the show imply that house knew the exact date, all he knows is that its gonna happen, and theres still the possibility that vault-tec fricks him over cause competing companies, albeit on friendly terms.
Vault-Tec didn't drop the nuke you stupid Black person, the Chinese beat them to it
>character: we will do the thing
That doesn't mean they thing actually happened you brain dead moron.
A good follow up in season 2 would be that the Chinese did actually fire first. Then it would make sense why black lady let her daughter be caught in the blast and why House had no idea when it would happen. Then they can have their little moment where Coop can reunite with his wife who he thought was evil but actually she was good all along.
considering liberty prime is a satire of US foreign policy, i am expecting the "chinks did it" to be a ruse, and the series to go with the "americans bad communism good" take, since moldaver was a commie.
>completely destroyed
did you just read some baithomosexual’s “spoiler” or are you seriously this visually impaired?
None of this is fricking true, can you homosexuals stop fricking lying
Prove you're not a bot and answer:
>Shady Sands being nuked before the events of NV, but no one in the game ever makes mention of that
>Vault-Tec being the responsible for nukes, and not China/Russia
>Ghouls not needing water/food to survive
>Ghouls needing a serum to not go feral
>~~
>not specifically stated, somewhat implied, only thing for sure was that they were willing and able to do so if need be
>not something in the show but also in the games there are plenty of examples of this for ghouls
>seems to help for certain, could be argued the serum/radaway helps them fight the feralness/onset of feralness (unclear if it's specific to when you start becoming feral or not, but who knows)
>Shady Sands being nuked before the events of NV, but no one in the game ever makes mention of that
??? It was nuked during NV, you know like the divide shows.
>Vault-Tec being the responsible for nukes, and not China/Russia
Not confirmed, all it says is Vault-Tec was willing to nuke people, this isn't a surprise. Why is her daughter outside of a vault when the nukes drop if it was her plan to drop them first ? The nukes could have gone off a day earlier from Russia or China, though I think that's lame because Americans are obviously the most evil nation in the pre war setting and you have to unironically accept their propaganda to think otherwise.
not needing water/food to survive
What? We see cooper literally eat meat and say he needs to. "Sometimes a fellas gotta eat another fella"
needing a serum to not go feral
Not true, it shows that once you show signs of going feral the drug can slow it down. Ghouls being on a natural pathway to feral is canon and adding a substance to help delay that isn't very kooky.
There's plenty of actual issues in the show which if you watched it you could propbably actually critique the show. For example
How come during the first episode the vault dweller who married lucy didn't realize no-one from his vault was there during the ceremony ? He had only been out of the vault for a few years, he should recognise people and that these people are all strangers
>you know like the divide shows.
The divide nukes are I-15, not shady sands.
The courier accidently launched them by delivering the codes, Vaulttec can just do that on purpose. What I mean is that NEw VEgas shows there is nukes around, they are accessible and can nuke things.
>??? It was nuked during NV, you know like the divide shows.
But this nuke was not from the Courier accidentally launching nukes, but from some defrosted Vault-Tec jackass having incel rage after his wife left him to stay in Shady Sands so he nuked the place.
>How come during the first episode the vault dweller who married lucy didn't realize no-one from his vault was there during the ceremony ? He had only been out of the vault for a few years, he should recognise people and that these people are all strangers
He was from 31, not 32. Though it’s still dumb, just less so
>Shady Sands being nuked before the events of NV, but no one in the game ever makes mention of that
Ill give it to you that this wasn't explained very well. Basically all that was said was that there was a downfall in the country before the nukes dropped which could mean that 2077 through New Vegas was the downfall of the NCR before it got nuked which would make sense given the fact that the whole reason the NCR was interested in the Dam and by extension New Vegas was due to it seeing better days.
>Vault-Tec being the responsible for nukes, and not China/Russia
Are you even surprised? This is the same company that just wanted to build fallout shelters specifically to do social/psychological experiments for profit.
>Ghouls not needing water/food to survive
The ghoul was dug up periodically to be fed and given water so that they could carve up pieces of him as a food source. Plus the bag above his grave were drugs to keep him from becoming feral.
>Ghouls needed a serum to not go feral
It was implied in the games that all ghouls become feral eventually though the process is never really touched upon. Seeing how insta-cure medicine is a thing in fallout such as radaway and stimpacks, are you really surprised that there is a drug that helps deter this process as well?
>This is the same company that just wanted to build fallout shelters specifically to do social/psychological experiments for profit.
That is NOT correct. The Enclave are the ones who had interest in the experiments, Vault-Tec was merely contracted to build the vaults to Enclave's.
like
said, it was poorly explained but shady sands was nuked after the events of Fallout New Vegas. The downfall was not necessarily the nuke and was an economic/political one which you hear about in New Vegas.
i meant to say
explained it not
either way, todd howard cleared the air about this. You seem to just be clamoring the reasons as to why the show "isn't canon" because you have no legitimate criticisms.
>the NCR is a wide-ranging sort of organization and group
Todd has no fricking idea what the NCR is
He paid millions of dollars for this property and hasn't played a single one of the fricking games
Microsoft spent billions of dollars acquiring this company
Has no one played the games? Vault tec started the war is hard lore since fallout 3 (and hinted at in 1 and 2). Look at the bomb in Megaton. It has a vault tec logo on it you dumb fricks
Awful bait. Apply yourself.
>show sucks off NV and NV factions the most by showing the NCR and implying the legion assimilated into the BOS
>season 2 set in NV
>character that goes to NV implies through existence that House is alive too
>Deathclaw saved for season 2 set in NV
>Bethesda HATES NV and Obsidian
They literally couldn’t be sucking them off more, FRICK OFF
>show sucks off NV and NV factions the most by showing the NCR and implying the legion assimilated into the BOS
What show did you watch? How the frick would the legion be assimilated into the BOS when they are complete polar opposites? Can you shills at least pretend to watch the show.
>colors of BOS are red and gold in the show
>this is the only incidence of this color scheme for BOS EVER
>almost every relevant character in BOS has Roman names
>BOS are tech cultists instead of an actual military
>confirmed inter-faction sectors by the show depicting the commonwealth BOS and the West BOS as distinct entities, with the commonwealth being in control
>BOS is teaching anti-sex practices to assumedly prevent blasphemy
Try actually watching the show anon, none of the webms showed the important lore tidbits
Now that you mention it, I don't think we've seen a single female BOS member in the show.
There are a couple but they're really well hidden. The scene in the first episode when the Prydwen arrives, you can see one or two female aspirants in the background, same with the last episode when they're in Filly.
They literally made one a Knight in the first episode moron
That's not a female in the show.
>Fricking up a faction because the show's writers only read a wiki article about the Brotherhood and looked at a few fallout 4 screenshots
>"It's secret lore!"
alright
>show made by the guy that made Westworld
>expecting autistic pattern recognition to go unrewarded
>reddit spacing
Go back home moronbro
>made by the guy that made Westworld
Nolan is executive producer, which means that his official role is swinging his dick around. He's not writing or "making" anything. The show is written by 2 writers who write for Portlandia, the screenwriter of Captain Marvel and the Tomb Raider movie, and a bunch of literal who's with no good writing credits.
He also directed the first 3 episodes and pitched it, so he’s not just big ol’ money bags telling everyone to make Superman fight a metal spider
Lisa Joy is the writer. She also did Westworld. So you're wrong.
>colors of BOS are red and gold in the show
They were like that in Fallout 4, that's why its like that in the show
>this is the only incidence of this color scheme for BOS EVER
It was in Fallout 4
>almost every relevant character in BOS has Roman names
They had roman names even in Fallout 1 homosexual
>BOS are tech cultists instead of an actual military
Why would the legion be tech cultists when they hate relying on tech since its a reminder of the old world that brought the end of the world? Also Brotherhood are clearly an actually military in the show, you seem them train and they have ranks. The show writers decided to amp up the tech obsession 100x by added moronic religious shit to it.
>confirmed inter-faction sectors by the show depicting the commonwealth BOS and the West BOS as distinct entities, with the commonwealth being in control
That was already established in Fallout 3 and NV. What does that even prove?
>BOS is teaching anti-sex practices to assumedly prevent blasphemy
This doesn't even make sense for the legion. The legion wasn't anti-sex, they literally were ok with rape and having sex slaves, the brotherhood never had an anti-sex belief in all of the games, they literally rely on their members having sex since they rarely recruit outsiders. The whole thing with Veronica in NV is that she was hated for not having sex with a male and for being a carpet muncher. This anti-sex shit was added by the show writers.
>Try actually watching the show anon, none of the webms showed the important lore tidbits
Try playing the games instead of the wiki pages that you skimmed through.
>it was like that in fallout 4
It was red and white in fallout 4.
>why would they be tech cultists?
Because they got assimilated by a larger organization that values tech, so they just teach the basics so their knights can recognize it but not use it. They still uphold their original values by shipping it east away from their territory, thus ridding it from the new world.
>they’re still an actual military
Much more akin to medieval knighthood than anything. Yes they come together to fight occasionally, but no knight is acting as a commander of a squadron regularly. Much more akin to actual knights who just went around and did shit by themselves
>what was it trying to prove?
Sets precedence for differing sections to have differing beliefs. Gives a potential legion faction more leniency
>legion weren’t anti sex
> "Nipton was a wicked place, debased and corrupt. It served all comers, so long as they paid. Profligate troops, Powder Gangers, men of the Legion such as myself - the people here didn't care. It was a town of prostitutes”
Literal intended first encounter with legion
>Because they got assimilated by a larger organization that values tech,
And then just completely changed any values and identity they had? This is Paul is Dead levels of schizophrenia. You're stretching out minor details and ignoring the painfully large swaths where your theory makes no sense
Okay what’s the alternative?
>legion nowhere in show
>house likely still active post-NV
>NCR still active despite weakened economy due to the fall and nuking of shady sands
So either the Legion was completely and utterly decimated despite having a large amount of territory like the NCR, or they failed and the grunts joined a different organization where they mixed their ideology with the dominant one
nowhere in show
And? Is that supposed to mean something? The show can't get dates right or even where the frick Shady Sands is.
>house likely still active post-NV
Why would he? The show doesn't hint that. And he's dead in 3 of the 4 endings
>NCR still active
Again, where did you get that? There's no mention of the Hub, Vault City, Arroyo, or anything related to a wide NCR government still functional. You saw a bunch of raiders and that's implied to be it.
>no knight is acting as a commander of a squadron regularly
Thats exactly what they did in f3, nv and 4
>>show sucks off NV and NV factions the most by showing the NCR
By completely destroying the NCR and retconning its history
Do you think just because it shows something it's mean to be flattering?
>lynches the NCR’s history
>destroys the NCR (Vault-Tec nukes the NCR out of spite)
>makes ZERO references to the legion, you are smoking wiener
>Deathclaws are from Fallout, the first fricking entry in the game, and have been in EVERY ENTRY SINCE*
>lobotomizies Mr. House’s lore/character
>shoehorns in the DUMBEST (yes, even dumber than, “aliens did it,”) reason for why the bombs dropped
Frick off and die. If you’re going to defend a show, then at least fricking watch it first
>implying the legion assimilated into the BOS
are you saying that because they gave the Brotherhood characters Latin names for some reason?
I bet it's actually because the showrunners heard them saying "Ad Victoriam!" when they were checking Fallout 4 clips on YouTube and they assumed "ah, so these must be like a Catholic crusading order. let's give them Latin names and have Squires calling Knights 'my lord'"
Well if nothing else the head paladin in FO1 was a fricking rhombus. The rest of everyone had more modern names.
>implying the legion assimilated into the BOS
Please reread that and tell me how it is moronic
It's more likely the Legion destroyed itself or the Brotherhood came along and mopped them up.
The Legion are in the East. You morons are freaking out over nothing.
Actually, they destroyed it less than Obsidian wanted. Obsidian wanted everything gone, full caveman.
>nooo youre just being contrarian because sjw troony writers, critics and rezdktors like it
>liking nv is suddenly reddit and troony even tho show has a literal troony in it
Atleast try to make sense
i can't tell if this moronic facebook shitmeme is meant to make FONV fans based by showing FO4 fans as the jack who is obsessed with the 84 metacritic when it obviously means nothing today
Get this fricking shit out of here
Wrong board
to the brim with political propaganda
Political propaganda??? In MY Fallout???!!! Say it ain't so!
Nta but not applicable
It's the difference between metaphors/analogues and just putting Trump in it
This show does not make reference to any current day politician or political event.
Except in this show they put a transman that's stronger than a man as a political statement.
That would still not make your image applicable
That is critiquing something very specific that is not present in the show
It is political in the same way as the games it mentions. Analogy and metaphor.
>It is political in the same way as the games it mentions.
A transman is barely an analogy/metaphor, in fact, it's closer to modern politics, specially if you consider the setting.
Again, it is not about containing politics, modern or otherwise.
It's about making explicit reference to exact politics. The show does not provide arguments against Donald J Trump's presidency. It does not critique 'Obama's America'. It does not say "Trans men are strong because X and Y and we're going to suck a real politician who agrees' wiener." It contains a character who is played by an actor who happens to exhibit that quality. That is not any more political than metal gear solid gets.
>Character exists that just happens to be trans
What's the issue? I thought this was supposed to a good example of representation and diversity instead of ones that make their identity their whole personality? Isn't that the excuse you chuds always use to defend blacks and gays in older media (I.e media released before the woke spotting trend)
>What's the issue with a transman (biological woman) thriving in a post-apocalyptic lawless setting where they would be extinct, and in a military organization nonetheless?
Yes that is essentially what I asked
Their existence is offensive
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
if chuds actually played they games and had an ounce of media literacy, they'd know that Fallout has always lampooned capitalism, fascism, and American exceptionalism.
Like, how the frick can you play Fallout and not realize that Vault-tec, the Institute, RobCo, etc (ie; capitalists), are the villains?
Transgender is not....political anon, but a gender indentity. someone whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth.
Vive la trans!
Communists were never depicted as good guys or the solution to the wastelands evils. That is what makes it Californian propaganda, it's not a product that contains propaganda like old fallout, it is propaganda.
Maybe you should listen to the introduction. The issue wasn't capitalism, it was resource scarcity. Communism doesn't solve resource scarcity no matter how much you want to meme that into reality.
If there's such a difference, why couldn't the person making this tweet use a picture from a videogame?
Then you wouldn't get the joke
There isn’t a difference between MG and that tho…
??? Do you think Fallout talking about commies or making fun of the 50s is somehow propaganda?
Another moron who doesn't understand what idpol is and how it infests modern fiction.
But enough about fallout 2, let's talk about the show
>everything I dislike is propaganda
YOU MEAN LIKE USE MY wiener?
>critics like it
>fans like it
>normies like it
>even the series creator likes it
>Ganker is the only one who hates it
many such cases!
Are you even surprised?
Ganker should be treated as a litmus test in taste. If Ganker or Ganker hates something then you know it is at least decent.
It's your daily reminder that the average Gankerirgin is so completely devoid of personality and achievements that they think hating on popular shit genuinely makes them interesting.
It's pure cope
my fav fallout game is nv and i liked the show
Ganker just hate everything popular, remember elden ring and bg3
>elden ring and bg3
elden ring was filled with artificial difficulty and was a downgrade from previous releases.
bg3 is a turn based game. it was never ever going to be good or worth mentioning.
i still don't understand why even the non-fallout people praise it so much.
I expected the lore to get assraped all the way to esophagus, so i don't really give a shit on that part, but the show is so obviously cheaply made visually i can't fathom why people don't bring it up more.
Where the frick did 200 million budget go? Why is the ghoul just a sunburnt human, especially considering amazon apparently holds a patent for some kino zombie makeup tech, why does power armor flail like a ragdoll in the air, why does a building made of scrap not even budge when a 100kg+ suit of mechanical armor hits it on full speed, why does the armor look like shitty cgi when its supposed to be practical, why is every green screen so fricking obvious, why is the color grading so fricking bland?
We had better looking TV shows in early 2000s. We had better looking fan works in 2010s made with a shoelace budget for fricks sake. Why the frick we couldn't at least stagnate on that level of quality instead of going into that shit?
>why does the armor look like shitty cgi when its supposed to be practical
Do you really want the actors to be running around on stilts falling over all the time? It is way too big to just find a big actor to fill the suit. The only way this works is if they actually splurged the budget on a real exoskeleton, and not even anything that currently exists because the ankles and wrists are fully mechanical and separate from the wearer.
>Do you really want the actors to be running around on stilts falling over all the time?
I wouldn't mind that actually, but this isn't the first piece of media that tried to depict a big suit of armor in action.
There could have been several ways it could go:
1) Use CGI for more elaborate shots rather than just action and practical armor for more calm moments
2) Use a puppet with a crane
3) Make it normal-sized with oversized proportions and use the camera angles to trick the viewer into thinking it's actually big
And those aren't even all the options, just the ones i can get off my head.
Instead, we have an actor walking around like he soiled his huge metal diaper all the time. Fricking Weller in his personal hellscape known as the robocop suit had more mobility than this shit.
Also your point has nothing to do with the fact that this practical armor looks like shitty CGI in the moments where its definitely shouldn't be.
I don't get why the armor looks so bad. They clearly put effort in it.
I'm starting to think it's just crappy Bethesda designs.
it's the movement because the suit is so restrictive. It does not look like a powerful walking tank that made the chinese legions shit themselves in the war - it just looks like a moron with arthritis plated in metal. The presentation is fricked even if the armor itself is well-made
If they spent some time in making it move closer to what F4 power armor does, even the fricking T-60 would look imposing as frick.
If it worked with making John Davies looking like a midget despite being almost 2 metres tall and not looking like that robocop falling puppet, it can deal with power armor limbs too.
You can also create that illusion by modifying armor proportions to make the pelvis look higher than it actually is.
I don't like the color of it. It doesn't look like steel to me (even if PA isn't supposed to be cast steel, it's supposed to be space age superalloys). It just looks like weathered plastic.
>If they spent some time in making it move closer to what F4 power armor does
Yeah well that's the problem, they would literally be commissioning an actual suit of power armor. I'm sure that whatever material that is used would need to have the same thickness and weight to give the impression of being heavy metal, if not being actual metal, and at that point it meets the functional definition of powered armor.
Are you moronic or illiterate?
I was talking about the joint freedom, not the weight. The weight you can emulate with proper acting even if you are wearing paper, but you can't act like you have almost complete range of movement (Like game armor does) when your arm can only bend for 45 degrees max
Camera angle trickery is classic and can work to a degree, but remember that PA limbs are longer than normal so it will be tricky to keep that illusion if the actor is wearing a simple rubber suit.
the first 3 episodes felt pretty standard transport vidya into tv schlock but it came into it's own and actually felt like a fallout story from episode 4.
The armor looks pretty shit all the way through unfortunately.
I'd give it a solid 7/10, really not sure what all the pant shitting about new vegas is about.
>>Ganker is the only one who hates it
Something something when everyone is a moron and you're autistic stand and kick them in the face or something.
- Iron Man
>DUH ITS ONLY Ganker NOBODY ELSE IS SEETHING
lol the real shitshow was twitter/reddit you fricking moron.
>even the series creator likes it
When did Brian Fargo say that?
What did he say about the show? Wasn't that motherfricker at the premier?
more like fnv gays hating it
I'm an NV gay and I love it. All NV gays I know love it.
The narrative that we're supposedly hating it, is just another FO3/4 fanboy psyop.
>>Ganker is the only one who hates it
i've seen plenty of people here love it. the only people i've ever seen explicitly hate it from here to social media are sony cultists because of the bethesda/xbox relation. and that has nothing to do with the show itself just more mental illness.
Incorrect, the only people who very seriously
>hate
it and have so many bones to pick with it are the NV cultists. No other group reacts the same way. Ask such people "what is the best game" and they will tell you "unequivocally New Vegas" as their herd identity card, though you don't really need to ask as they will always be sure to remind you of this before making any argument about Fallout.
>No other group reacts the same way. Ask such people "what is 2 + 2" and they will tell you "unequivocally 4" as their herd identity card, though you don't really need to ask as they will always be sure to remind you of this before making any argument about calculus
>NV fans: we like the show
>butthurt Toddie defender: noooo NV cultists hate teh show lmao trannies amirite?!
rent free
I can get the people who NEED to feel strongly because the whole bethesda vs. obsidian thing, but honestly, these screaming monkeys are tying their dicks into knots over a blackboard covered in THE WRONG DATES, and the idea of "NOOOO THIS CHARACTER/PLACE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE/DONE THAT IT DOESN'T FIT INTO MY FLOWCHART NOOOOO" when everything being told here is just a fricking story.
people need to learn to let go of their Canons.
knowledge of pointless fictional minutia doesn't add inches to your dick.
Watching TV doesn't either
nice comeback, b***h-for-brains. your mom type it out for you?
No, yours did
One handed
Because that worked so well for Star Wars and 40k
my parents loved the show. my dad is trying to figure out how to play fallout 1. felt kinda bad he didnt know how to use steam so i went over to their place and lent him my old disc
your dad is going to be disappointed by the lack of black people and interracial couples
NMA doesn't like it, lol
The 3 people who post there? Grim
That's not my problem, I enjoyed it.
It does none of these things. Cope
don't care
anything by bethesda and approved by todd isn't canon
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
That's always been the case
Fallout has been dead for a long time already
do chuds EVER stop b***hing and moaning like snowflakes?
do chuds EVER stop having standards?
That's pure backpedalling on Todd's part, and this is why he's so good at making you buy the same game over and over again.
It's obvious the "fall of shady sands" and it being nuked were the same event, why else would they choose such a specific date (2277) for a event that is barely shown?
Imagine for a moment, purely as a hypothetical, that back in 2021 on January 6th the people at the white house got inside, hanged the vice president, executed roughly half of congress, and burned down the building. Shit goes downhill. Riots begin in other cities, martial law gets declared, and a minor civil war essentially breaks out. Then, after a couple years of this, someone nukes DC and wipes it off the map. It would be completely fair for someone to look back at the original event that precipitated all the other shit and say, "2020 was the year DC fell". But someone else might say, "No, DC fell the moment Trump took office, back in 2016." And another might say, "No, you're all wrong. DC was fine up until the bomb fell in 2023."
Those are all perfectly valid interpretations that you could slap in a timeline on a chalkboard because the "fall" of a city doesn't need to be some singular event. It can be multiple things or a process.
You don’t even have to get into hypotheticals people still argue about when the fall of the Roman Empire began. I’m not sure why the fall of shady sands is even a big issue, DC was literally burned once and the country still survived.
>You don’t even have to get into hypotheticals people still argue about when the fall of the Roman Empire began.
If there's one thing Rome was great at, it was continuing to trudge on. In the end it depends on what one means by "fall".
This interpretation doesnt work either because there's 0 mention of such an event in New Vegas.
If there was an event significant enough to be called "The Fall of Shady Sands", Caesar wouldnt shut up about it, rather than just saying the NCR is corrupt and relying on ideologies.
Considering the track record of Bethesda writting in 3, 4 and 76 it's obvious they dont even understand the lore of their own IP.
Biggest problem is that the so called "Fall" isn't shown at all in the show or in New Vegas. Wtf is this so called "fall" of shady sands? New Vegas never mentions that Shady Sands is going through some decline. The reality is that the show writers wanted to make a story in California but still wanted it to be set in a complete shithole where people are dying everyday just to get basic needs and that couldn't have happened in the established lore. So instead of setting it earlier in the time-line like before 1, during 1 or even shortly after the events of 1, they made vault-tec still alive and somehow have access to an aresnal of nuclear weapons even though the NCR(Even in 2) have a whole department dedicated to hunting down vaults and pre-war military installations) get nuked because some dudes wife left him. Instead of creating a cool story about the NCR dying because its own greed and mistakes. The show honestly feels like it was written by AI. Now New Vegas is a shit hole as well because god forbid that after 220 years, people aren't living like Indians.
>NCR dying because its own greed and mistakes
NCR going the way of Athens during the Peloponnesian war would be quinoa
The show is for Fallout 4 fans and does not care about Fallout 1,2 and New Vegas "canon". Face it trannies , you lost.
>trannies
obsessed
>Giving a shit about canon frick ups because publisher says it's canon.
That's to make morons consume everything. Nothing ever stays relevant when jumping between mediums. Ubisoft make a big stink about how the Assassin's Creed movie being canon and all it amounted to was a file in Origins saying Abstergo's CEO got killed so they hired a new one. You'll get a vague allusion to the shot in Fallout 5 that doesn't connect to the fricked up details at best.
>I think it would have been a mistake to go from the retro-futuristic America to another America that has been fully civilised and the NCR is doing everything great. We love Deadwood. I think if there was a fourth season of Deadwood, there'd be insurance companies, there'd be traffic, and it wouldn't be a Western anymore. We wanted to live in that first season of Deadwood space, of like, “What's going to happen? Where is everything?”
fallout is no longer post-post apocalyptic now it's just The Road. not sure why they set it 200 years after the bombs dropped if they wanted to do this
The writing is more in line with 1, 2 and NV than with 3, 4 and 76.
I will not elaborate on this. If you watched the show and it wasn't clear to you immediately, then you're ngmi.
>all of the drama revolves around cryogenically frozen pre-war characters
>viciously fellates the east coast brotherhood of steel to the detriment of the rest of the setting
>no actual connection between any of the factions, no real themes, just a main character going from setpiece to setpiece until something happens
It's FO4 down to the fricking letter
>viciously fellates the east coast brotherhood of steel to the detriment of the rest of the setting
They're literally portraying them as the bad guys.
>no real themes
Yeah, you're ngmi.
>no actual connection between any of the factions, no real themes, just a main character going from setpiece to setpiece until something happens
You literally just described FO1. Don't worry, it's obvious you never played it
No shit moron, which is why we have a time skip and we see the NCR in full steam for F02. Fallout 2 and NV are Post-Post Apocalypses
The issue with bethesda is they can't let go of post-apoclypse, they just keep redoing apocalypses to reset the setting which is fricking stupid.
The east coast has less development than California in Fallout 1 despite taking years after the fact. The only organisation in fricking DC is the BoS coming from California.
yep, it's homosexual shit. but the braindead drones are out in force claiming it's great and calling you a chud incel if you disagree. lol
I really enjoyed it until the last episode. The 'twist' was neither surprising nor interesting.
I don't have high hopes for season 2.
Reminder there's a portrait of President Kimball in episode 6 when the Shady Sands survivors are doing their ritual
Just wait until flatout 5 to see if this caused irreparable damage to their sales or if consoomers gonna consoom.
Fallout 5 is at least a decade away. No one will remember this show by the time it comes out.
Flatout is actually a good game though
Todd won, cry harder b***h homie. The only thing I'm mad about is that I'll never get to bounce on his wiener personally.
I just watched the first episode with my little sister and liked it
to the brim with political propaganda
yeah why can't we go back to completely apolitical fallout which didn't have politics dripping from every character
wow it's just like every other postmodern adaptation of a beloved franchise
why does this keep happening
NVgays really are the dumbest motherfrickers ever.
The creators of the show literally came out and said the game is canon and shady sands was nuked after NV and they still don't understand that.
Old World Blues must have given them a real life lobotomy.
>The creators of the show literally came out and said the game is canon
This doesnt mean anything because the creators of the show arent the creators of the Fallout franchise, so the show is full of contradictions, plotholes and plain bad writting that go against the estabilished canon.
The creator of Fallout liked the show and said there were no contradictions. You are a moron and a secondary.
To be fair, I don't know if they are allowed to say their (negative) opinions.
>Appeal to Authority
Concession accepted.
>>This doesnt mean anything because the creators of the show arent the creators of the Fallout franchise
>point out how the creator of Fallout approved of it
>"d-doesn't count"
ok moron.
There are contradictions, just read the thread.
If the creator himself says there arent despite evidence suggesting otherwise, it makes him even less credible, so your fallacious elementary-grade argument doesnt hold up to scrutinity
>The creator of Fallout liked the show and said there were no contradictions.
>just read the thread.
Yeah and all the examples provided are either irrelevant shit like the physical location of Shady Sands, or straight up lies like the nuking of NV.
NVtrannies are the biggest morons imaginable.
>The complaints about the lore change is irrelevant
>Can't refute even one of the complaints
>You must be a troony
Dude at least try. The moving of Shady Sands isn't "irrelevant" as
states, it changes the whole message of Fallout 1 and the series and also deletes other settlements that were unique from Shady Sands all because the show writers were lazy. Go ahead and start screaming about the trannies in your head but at least attempt to be a little less moronic.
He didn't say that there were no contradictions, he said that there are but you can still enjoy and appreciate the show for what it is.
He admitted lore drift and appealed to ambiguity because he is a good sport. He had so many problems with Fallout 2 that many here love the show for. He had nothing to do with New Vegas but that has become the Gold standard for lore fans. He has the most mature say in a career of creative decisions and compromises in conferencing.
Also he said nothing about the shit show that was the console shooter fallouts we dont talk about
Frick you. BoS is awesome. To this very fricking day.
Youre just a salty homosexual who had no friends to couch co-op it with.
I bet you hated BG dark alliance 1+ 2 too.
>console shooter
That isn't what that game is. You know that, right?
oh but no, you see random people posting on Ganker know more than the creators of the IP, even though they will never themselves create anything original or long lasting.
Tim said that someone wanted Terminator style robots in Fallout 1 but he said it didn't fit, and found it ironic that Bethesda went back to the idea. He also said there's a lot about Fallout 2 he disagrees with. He has also said that he compartmentalizes his Fallout from the sequels. I don't really care one way or the other because I'm never going to watch the show but at least don't take my boy Tim out of context.
Appeal to authority fallacy.
>Authority
Its a story he created
Josh Sawyer also sucks off the show and he was the brainlet behind Outer Worlds, so I don't know who to believe.
Sawyer had nothing to do with Outer Worlds
Guess who did?
Tim Cain :^)
I'm saying appeal to authority isnt a fallacy here because his opinion is about his story and the only one that really matters, who cares what other people think
Anyone that worked on Fallout would like the show because they could seperate the idea from specific lore and enjoy seeing the worked being lifted up to another medium, even if the details are lost in translation, i'm sure they're not losing sleep over it and are just happy to be associated with something thats now a bit more culturally relevant
in other words they don't care about the quality of the product as long as they get clout and get to shill product to the masses of normies that still consume tv shows in current year
If it makes you feel better, what Tim Cain really said was that lore drift is inevitable in longrunning franchises, that Bethesda decides the story's direction now, and that his opinion doesn't matter any more than yours(referring to OG Fallout fans).
The same guy who had serious issues with Fallout 2, self-professed that he compartmentalizes every sequel game as being not part of "his" Fallout, and "politely disagrees" with Bethesda's idea about who dropped the bombs when the reveal of who dropped the bombs is like the whole thrust behind what the Fallout show culmimates in thematically.
Basically, anons saying Tim Cain uncritically praised the show and gave it his endorsement are being a bit disingenuous at best, because it comes with the massive asterisk that he has never held any fallout content as corroborative with his first game regardless.
Canon is only determined by works written or directed by the creator, not by their positive opinions towards a work not written by them
Canon is determined yourself. If you don't like something, it's not canon.
Todd won and made NVtrannies rope themselves.
canon
it doesn't
estabilished story/characters
it doesn't
to the brim with political propaganda
it isn't
praised by "fans"
yes
estabilished story/characters
>it doesn't
Why is Shady Sands in LA?
shady sands has changed locations in fallout 1 and 2 yet you're not b***hing about that
It didn't jump from central California to LA you moron. LA already had established towns and cities. The whole point of Shady sands was to show that even in the middle of no where, humans can still make a little piece of heaven in a hellish world and that places with humble beginnings can build themselves up to become great powers. Instead having Shady Sands in LA just shows that you can only build off of the old world and what came before.
>Moving Shady sands 100 west is the same as moving it into LA and deleting all of the settlements that existed there just so you can have the character walk 10 feet to their goal.
Nice thinking skills buddy, really did a good job refuting my claim. Glad to see that the IQ of the internet has dropped ten fold over the years.
Shady sands 100 west is the same as moving it into LA and deleting all of the settlements that existed there just so you can have the character walk 10 feet to their goal.
>Nice thinking skills buddy, really did a good job refuting my claim. Glad to see that the IQ of the internet has dropped ten fold over the years.
Nice deflection, now refute my claim. explain how that didn't retcon the previous established lore or is that something they didn't train you to do at amazon training in new Delhi.
>Nice deflection, now refute my claim. explain how that didn't retcon the previous established lore or is that something they didn't train you to do at amazon training in new Delhi.
The location literally doesn't change anything about the narrative.
So are vault 13 and 15 in LA now as well?
Yes, Hollywood writers have no soul and can't relate to things if not LA
>The whole point of Shady sands was to show that even in the middle of no where, humans can still make a little piece of heaven in a hellish world
yeah nice fricking headcanon
>NYOOO SHADY SANDS IS NOW 5 KILLOMETERS AWAY FROM LA THAT MAKES IT TOTALLY REMOTE AND CHANGES THE ENTIRE MEANING
It literally doesn't.
You are a sub 50 IQ braindead wienersucker.
You are actually borwn aren't you.
>Nice fricking head canon
That's literally the point of the first game and the games later on. It shows that even in the worst possible event, humans still come together and can build something great even from nothing by coming together by force or otherwise(Unity, NCR, Legion BOS). But the idea of people not living in shitholes must be insane for a shit skin like yourself so I get why you completely missed that.
>NYOOO SHADY SANDS IS NOW 5 KILLOMETERS AWAY FROM LA THAT MAKES IT TOTALLY REMOTE AND CHANGES THE ENTIRE MEANING
Nice job failing to moron ESL moron. By moving Shady Sands into LA, not only did you miss out on the main message of Shady Sands itself from Fallout 1/2, you just deleted other settlements all because the writers can't be bothered to write a story without making the main character walk 2 feet from their main objective. I really hope Amazon pays you well for being so moronic.
No that's not the message of the first 2 games. You literally made that shit up from a drug induced psychosis.
It's location relative to everything else is in the same place, and it's still in the middle of nowhere. At worst it's location change in the second map is "well shit it's a little too far one way" Moving it to LA is a completely different environment.
It's also completely fixable because you could just have the town be Adytum.
If there was a location in LA beforehand and now Shady Sands is there and it isn't, it did retcon locations. So where's The Boneyard now?
Literally the place they lit up at the end of the season with cold fusion. Did you even watch the show? Of course not, I'm talking to a moronic secondary afterall.
No anon, that was the ruins of Shady Sands built in the ruins of Los Angeles, not The Boneyard. If it was The Boneyard, it wouldn't be labeled Shady Sands.
>it wouldn't be labeled Shady Sands.
they didn't label it shady sands. Shady Sands was in a completely different location from the observatory. Also Shady Sands was nuked, there wouldn't be any ruins left. Way to prove my point that you didn't actually watch it.
It's not. moron
The observatory is over looking LA which is shady sands now. try harder with your bait.
No you fricking moron
This is Shady Sands. A fricking crater.
And here is LA, aka the Boneyard
>Shady Sands is LA
>But that isn't LA
How moronic are you?
Sahdy Sands is a settlement in LA, not the entire LA, moron.
Do you think 34k was the population for the entire LA ruins? How fricking moronic can you be?
I once took my fiancee out on a date to my favorite park. As I started the picnic I noticed a lot of graffiti and my hands moved slowly. I then noticed a bunch of hobos. She screamed when she saw some smelly california junkies approaching us.
I feel the same feel I felt that day seeing how Fallout has been done dirty for new fans. I still sheepishly want to pretend it's not so bad.
You sound like a massive homosexual and your gf is fricking Black folk on the side.
Thats the only thing on your mind from what you read? You got Black person homosexuals on the brain, gutterbrains.
yeah sorry your homosexual text made me realize just how much of a cucked little b***h you are.
Im sorry you were cucked by Black folk in a little b***h accident and now you see the world this way
wow now that's projection.
I hope a therapist can fix you
Good job, homie
>t. California junkie hobo tatted up to the gills with dumb bullshit
Amazon writers do
>write a plot about Vault 33's overseer nuking Shady Sands
>show the audience a crater next to the Shady Sands library sign
>show the audience the survivors of Shady Sands covering themselves in the ashes of the dead
>show the audience an extreme close-up of a chalkboard with "THE FALL OF SHADY SANDS, 2277" next to a drawing of an atomic bomb going off
>show the audience a book from the Shady Sands library with its last due date being 2276 in the episode's credits sequence
Amazon writers do not
>include a date under the drawing of the atomic bomb going off next to "THE FALL OF SHADY SANDS, 2277"
>a singular, tragic event being remembered by the survivors in the next fricking scene
>but they wrote down the exact date of what fans theorize was a "socioeconomic decline"
>a "socioeconomic decline" that there is no evidence of in the show
>the thing right before "THE FALL OF SHADY SANDS" on the chalkboard is "NCR BECOMES THE LARGEST ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL POWER IN CALIFORNIA"
Dude
I think it's purposely written so that it's left for the viewers interpretation, then you have morons like oxhorn or something do some 15 hour video on how shady sands fells then Todd will watch it and make it true canon. just like their games even the fricking writing needs fans to fix it anon, look at starfield.
>I think it's purposely written so that it's left for the viewers interpretation
It very obviously isn't.
There's the nuke leading from "Fall of Shady Sands" on the board, there's that credits scene on ep 5 with the library book that stops in December 2276, there's the vault cult survivors talking about the ashes of the dead from the fall of shady sands.
Literally everything points to the nuke falling on the impossible date of 2277, which contradicts New Vegas
But Todd said he made sure to make the timeline work in interviews with games journos! No, none of them brought up the specific dates in the interview to see what his response is, why would they do that?
They also didn't ask about the Shady Sands move, curiously enough
It's not. Whether you view it from an in-universe perspective or a screenwriting perspective, it's obviously just a minor mistake that had much bigger consequences that the writers weren't aware of. It doesn't make one iota of sense why every single event on the chalkboard has a date appended except for the one which is most important. (Which raises an unrelated question about why the NCR "becoming the most economically and politically powerful" power has a specific date appended, but whatever.)
While it is true that Bethesda fans will bend over backwards to find excuses for why things are the way they are in Bethesda products, there's no way that they intentionally wrote what could be very easily interpreted as a mistake as a
>You figure it out ;))
That's Shady Sands bozo, did you even watch the show that you are shilling or is amazon prime to expensive to afford in India?
Reddit isnt even sending their best guys.
There are 22 cities in the US named Rome
And how many of those have a literal billboard outside them that says "capital of the roman empire"?
It's a tv spinoff that only exists in it's own universe. Pay it no mind
I wouldn't pay it any mind but they clearly stated the exact opposite. Its canon and part of the lore and they will make the next game going forward with the new lore established by the show.
And hence. Fallout...was no more
Todd- *spikes pipboy*
I mean did you really except bethesda to care about canon?
>Canon
You are literally moronic if you care about this
First off, the old Fallout is dead. New Vegas told you very clearly to let go of the past.
Second, the show is a great adaptation of Bethesda Fallout. The production design is great, and the atmosphere and tone of the series are consistent with Bethesda Fallout. The issue is that it's set on the West Coast, but it leverages none of the setting's strengths. It transforms it into a desolate garbage-scape like the Capitol Wasteland or Commonwealth. The only non-NCR, non-vault settlement in the show, Filly, is inspired by Megaton - although it is based around a landfill rather than an undetonated atomic bomb, mercifully.
The only other settlement is the NCR remnants at Griffifth Observatory, and the show's treatment of the NCR is so simplistic, so stupid, that I don't know how any discussion gets past the point of
>Amazon moved Shady Sands 150 miles south of where it is in 1, 2, & NV so that they could nuke it to retell the stories of 3 & 4
The NCR in the show is not a faction, nor is the NCR "leader" in the show is not an actual character. They are both plot devices in Lucy's sub-plot and the overarching plot about Vault-Tec which ties together her, Norm's, and the ghoul's stories. The NCR was written into the show because it was something that Fallout fans recognize, in the same way that the Brotherhood, super mutants, and the Enclave were thoughtlessly written into Fallout 3.
Neither Amazon nor Moldaver have anything meaningful to say about the NCR as a society. There is no cathartic moment where Moldaver tells Hank that Shady Sands was founded by the former inhabitants of Vault 15, and that the NCR - the closest thing to "civilization" that the West produced - owes its existence to another vault dweller from Vault 13. Hank doesn't realize the sheer irony of Vault-Tec bombing a civilization founded by vault dwellers so Vault-Tec can found civilization in Vault-Tec's image, because the writers don't even realize it.
It's a perfect adaptation of Bethesda Fallout.
Stopped reading one sentence in, new record.
Based. I also stopped one sentence in, as soon as I realized this homosexual was a Sierra Madre Black person
They did the NCR dirty in the show, I don't even know why they were written in. Todd had to do damage control it was so bad.
good post, ty
for letting me know to read it
>New Vegas told you very clearly to let go of the past.
No, because i'm not a cuck dev upset I cant work on a franchise anymore, they can let go by not telling me what and how to feel
If you people really wanted this you would leave this thread and stop bothering Fallout fans but letting go is the fricking LAST thing you buttholes will do
Why are you seething, though?
Actually a good adaptation, I'm glad we got it even though I didn't understand it as a kid
>
she looks like a down syndrome kid here
amazing what makeup can do
Man, I haven't seen such shilling since the Witcher show
>shilling
>is clearly shitting on the show for being bethesda fallout
bro, your chan literacy?
I wasn't accusing that particular comment of shilling just remarking on how much it is happening
Fellas stop seething for a moment and help a moron out; I got F76 for free on the Xbox app (On PC) and a friend has the game on Steam. Can we play together?
>So many argument just to defend the TODD frickup
Confess now, are any of you a poojeet?
Better adaption than the last of gays at least
I just want to know what exactly about this show is any good? Speaking as someone who doesn't want to let the inconsistencies with the games get in the way of what is being considered a good story, why does anyone like it?
We see a strong independent black version of Hillary Clinton running the Illuminati, a machinegun turret fail to land a single shot on a a stumbling old man or his tethered dog that's less than 10 yards in front of it, and everyone is struggling to survive in a world where a magical healing syringe makes it impossible to die. This comes off as another "just turn your brain off bro" stories meant to be consumed for a few weeks and eventually forgotten in time for the next shiny series of shlock that comes out.
It’s fun slop with absolutely no depth and some Reddit humor. Perfect for the average moron
>Perfect for the average moron
Glad to know you enjoyed it but are too cool to admit it
It's a "wacky romp" through the wasteland that people like because it looks like Fallout. The sets, costumes, and props are cool.
Walter Goggins and the little manlet are the only thing actually carrying the show to its status as a 6/10. The other two sub-plots are awful. Lucy's is just the stories of Fallout 3 and 4 recombined into a mystery meat amalgam, and Maximus is so stupid that the only explanation is that his character is a metacommentary on low intelligence builds. Other than that, it's turn your brain off fun with lots of violence and gore. 90% of the plot of the first season is vague, unanswered intrigue that the writers clearly haven't committed to.
I find it funny that it requires an adaptation to be based on a game with an intelligence score for a dumb character to be acceptable. They *should* always be acceptable, yet most of the time criticism will be leveled at characters who do dumb things. "Why didn't X do thing, was he dumb?" It's fair when they perform uncharacteristically odd actions but it really shouldn't be a sticking point for a character to be canonically <= 3 INT.
>This comes off as another "just turn your brain off bro" stories meant to be consumed for a few weeks and eventually forgotten in time for the next shiny series of shlock that comes out.
I don't think the israelites care as they likely plan to blow the world up bu if we survive another 30-40 years, how are they gonna explain when we look and realize NO media from this entire era is gonna hold up and there won't be any 'classics' we've had decades of filler entertainment that is so far removed from what 'art' is suposse to represent
why is this chicks face so uncanny to me? She looks like she was made using attribute sliders
We?
Recover from what?
All the old lore still exists
Stop letting companies and popularity control you
Doesn't all Fallout games have multiple endings? If so, then this means that this could be an alternate ending that was canonized. I only played Fallout 4 and that also had multiple endings. There are many other endings the player can choose from in the game, and you could technically view this show as an alternate universe since it is different from the choice you picked during your last run of the fallout game that you played.
An alternate ending that moves Shady Sands a fifth of the length of the state of California?...
Where can I pirate fallout 1 and 2?
They're like 12 bucks, dude
>Still praised by "fans"
Fans of 3, 4 and 76 and they are unfortunately their intended target.
>Ruins canon
3 and 4 already did.
1,2 and Vegas are the only canon games and the only games worth playing for real fallout.
That TV series is just typical israeli girlboss Black person racemixing trash.
>ignoring tactics in favor of NV
Not a real fan, get your fps out of my iso-kino
tactics was never canon it's a crappy star wars holiday special tier spin off and a mediocre buggy rts
>I dont think we can recover from this
There hasn't been a good Fallout in over a decade and a 76 did more damage to lore than anything before it
Move on, it's dead
i didn't play 76 (just like i didn't play 4), what did it do to the canon? i thought it was just a survival game set very early in the timeline so it specifically wouldn't frick things up
It completely retconned the Brotherhood of Steel and did the standard Bethesda bullshit of shoving recognizable elements whenever they can, so now FEV was retconned too and there's supermutants in West Virginia
Also, some really dumb moron zombie apocalyptic with giant bats
>retcon
the whole franchise is a retcon upon retcon. the true purpose of the vaults is... a retcon. NCR existing.... is a retcon, enclave existing... is a retcon. vault tec and project safehouse... retcon.... EEP/PVP/new plague/curling-13... retcon. it turns out that you can't make up new lore without retcons
>IT WAS ALWAYS BAD
Thanks for your contribution.
>IT WAS ALWAYS BAD
wat
>wat
What?
I turned it off in the second episode during the stupid fight in that town.
Terrible writing.
Season 2 predictions
>Maximus is introduced to Arthur Maxson, and the BoS travel to either the Hub or San Francisco on some sort of mission
>New Vegas is infested with deathclaws, and the survivors, a lot of them ex-NCR and even ex-Legion, are all holed up in the casinos which are mostly operational
>Hank MacLean meets up with Mr. House, and eventually so does Lucy and the Ghoul, turns out House knows where the Ghoul's family is
>season ends with BoS storming New Vegas and taking out all the deathclaws, but the citizens of New Vegas and a restored Securitron army fight back
>twist cliffhanger ending is *sigh* somehow the Enclave returned
More like
>new Vegas is nuked
>the hub is nuked
>arroyo is nuked
>enclave returns but is nuked
>BoS takes over the entire west coast
>our trio travel to Boston for some baked beans and visit a museum
>Still praised by "fans"
i have 200hrs in every fallout game besides 1+2 and tactics+bos because i didnt play the latter, and former aren't replayable enough. and yes. if you don't think the show is good it's literally because you're a lorelet or a normalBlack person that doesn't know how the IP works.
>literally because you're a lorelet or a normalBlack person that doesn't know how the IP works.
Or maybe you just don't have shit taste or are a shill
Tim Cain praised the show, so of course homosexuals like to pretend to know the IP better than the literal god who created it.
>Tim Cain praised the show
I don't really care.
>so of course homosexuals like to pretend to know the IP better than the literal god who created it.
Has Tim Cain allowed you to comment in this thread?
>thinks he knows fallout better than its creator
dunning-kruger
>posting itt without Tim Cain's permission
What a hypocrite you are
Isn’t he gay?
being gay =! being homosexual
if he doesn't understand what fallout is, how come his tweet about his opinion on the TV show get 20 million impressions
If your judging by tweets shouldn't you be asking Elon's opinion on the show too?
so you think your opinion matters more than the guy who created the whole thing?
>they should bring in Jesse Plemons too
at this point just cast gus as robert house
>so you think your opinion matters more than the guy who created the whole thing?
I think if Pythagoras came back to life and told me the length of a triangles hypotenuse was the sum of the base and height I would call him a moron.
the TV show having legitimacy and being vouched for by the creator of the IP isn't the same as a mathematical formula which can be proven true
what are you on about? this is about how a random person can in their delusiona claim whatever they want, but you can't denounce the millions who listen to word of god
>this is about how a random person can in their delusiona claim whatever they want
How can you come here and spout opinions without Tim Cain's permission?
>so you think your opinion matters more than the guy who created the whole thing?
You think you can comment about Fallout without his permission?
holy heck how many updoots did he get?!
I've seen this same shit argument for why people were sucking off the FF7 remakes.
>Dude, I absolutely LOVED the OG! I beat it 20 times and I have to say...the Remakes are FANTASTIC! Eat shit!
There's no accounting for shit taste, no matter how much time you dedicate to grinding out a former product.
So you are complaining that a product is made for fans, instead of random netflix stacies?
And also, it seems that even casual audiences are enjoying the show last I checked.
I'm saying the complete opposite, you dummy.
tell me you haven't played fallout without telling me you haven't played fallout
>one last delivery….
Aaron Paul has such a giant head
gonna be so kino when he shows up next season
they should bring in Jesse Plemons too
I would have liked the show if it didn't have so many moronic scenes that make absolutely no sense if you just use your brain for half a second.
Was this show directed by Niel Breen? The dialogue and acting is very similar to his work.
>Ruins canon
Only FNV :^)
I was curious until black male white female, after which my eyes rolled out of my head
I didn't mind that but
>We don't spend that much time together but now have feelings for each other and we kiss
???? I could've gave it another season or two for them to spend more time together and develop intimate feelings for each other but nah we do it immediately and it took me out of it.
Get used to seeing it because people despise your kind and you will be reminded of this if you watch hollyslop constantly
>talk about how the show fricks over fo1 and 2
>get called a nv fanboy
>talk about how the show fricks over fo1 and 2
not true
>muh retcon
just like how shady sands was achtchyally the NCR instead of this random subsistence farm community
A village growing into a town over an 80 year period isn't a retcon. A settlement that was always located in one place suddenly always being located in another place is a retcon.
what about the vault experiments, or the generational space ship, or the enclave etc, those are retcons too. why do you people never complain about those?
the whole word is just a cope, that's the point. morons always love pretending like they are above something, yet they want to have their opinions validated or engaged by people they try to demoralize.
I'm all for turn your brain off fiction, I have shows and video games I like that I know are shit but I enjoy anyway. The difference though is that I don't pretend for instance that Bleach is some sort of written masterpiece and people are stupid for pointing out it's shitty plot and moronic characters.
It's fine to enjoy shit content sometimes but don't act as if it's not shit. Don't act as if it's contemporaries are it's equal or inferior.
ok so ur calling the tv show shit even though it's 90/90 on rotten, you're clearly in cope mode because it's not made for you. clearly a lot of people enjoy it and you don't, yet that doesn't mean it's shit or slop, yet that is what the word now means. you are too intelligent to enjoy the show and everyone else but you is too stupid to see it.
>what about the vault experiments, or the generational space ship, or the enclave etc, those are retcons too. why do you people never complain about those?
>desperately changing the subject
>what about the vault experiments, or the generational space ship, or the enclave etc, those are retcons too. why do you people never complain about those?
Plenty of people do complain about it. I'm personally fine with it because it was not a particularly egregious break, all the vaults we see in the first game do have serious issues even if they are not presented as intentional experiments. My problem with the show is that the changes are egregious, and generally only serve to make the world smaller and less interesting. And I'm utterly confounded by the people who absolutely refuse to acknowledge that there are any inconsistencies at all, coming up with extensive head-canons to explain how words don't actually mean what they say.
>coming up with extensive head-canons to explain how words don't actually mean what they say.
because i literally don't give a frick if there are random wrecked skyscrapers that some env artist put in the background for a 2sec shot they probably worked 15 mins on.
my main issue is that they said shady sands fell in 2277 when in 2281 NV citizens are talking about politicians in shady sands. yet its entirely conceivable that the writing process just missed this, and it's also possible that the idea of trying to preserve NV's game canon to the last minute detail was not regarded as necessary, when you can see the show play very fast and loose with the lore in general like showing arm jetpacks or the suits becoming "stiff" when disconnected from power, or ghouls needing rad-x to stay non-feral
It was funny how Bethesda had to deploy Todd specifically to do damage control because the writers screwed the pooch with the whole 2277 thing. Just send the man out there to say
>It's not that we don't care about the timeline
>We actually care SO MUCH about the timeline that the dates are just really, you know... tight... and stuff
>It's not people's fault that they misunderstood what was obviously a big, dumb oversight, we forgive you
I can't help but love him, no matters how much he lies
Frick Todd.
Explain how LA having 4 more vaults effectively right in the Master's backyard doesn't frick with FO1.
he just didn't find them
>what about-isms
people DO care about those retcons. i agree with
none of those retcons are egregious? they entirely change vault tec, they make up an evil deep state organization that wants to exploit its own citizens. they basically turned america into neo nazis just by creating the enclave for frick's sake.
>basically turned america into neo nazis
The intro of the game has America invading Canada and commiting war crimes, moron.
The totalitarian, imperialistic government was there since 1, the Enclave just introduced a cabal that controlled it behind the shadows
>they basically turned america into just by creating the enclave for frick's sake.
Yeah the US from the first game would never do something nazi-esque, like invading its neighbours and commiting atrocities against the population.
soldiers executing PoWs is totally the same thing as a state organization using its own fricking tax dollars to build fallout shelters just so that they can secretly perform psychological and actual torture on their own citizens on a massive scale so that the deep state execs can get on their star ship.
Soldiers executing PoWs BEING SHOWN ON THE TELEVISION AND PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED AS A PATRIOTIC ACTION.
just like dresden, hamburg, berlin, tokyo, hiroshima, nagasaki etc are "patriotic acts"? just like selling war bonds by GIs with PTSD so that they can send in more young men to die is patriotic?
executing PoWs even if done criminally is NOT THE SAME as turning your tax dollars into a fricking concentration camp for data gathering for a select few execs to enjoy a comfortable life
>neo-nazis
the enclave in FO2 are literally obsessed with racial hygiene, that's their entire point
> interpreted as totalitarian militaristic
do you always make up headcanon about peoples stances in arguments? i bet you win a lot of arguments.
>when that was already a thing
we already went over you thinking executing PoWs is the same as building a machine that tortures and kills your own fricking citizens USING YOUR OWN STATE RESOURCES
>You're now shifting that to how such a government wouldn't experiment on its own population
in what sense does a vanquisher treating its defeated with negligence translate to the vanquisher imprisoning their entire population that isn't them?
>executing PoWs even if done criminally
Still shifting the argument, moron.
>the enclave in FO2 are literally obsessed with racial hygiene
So was the government of Brazil in the late 19th century, you stupid moron, it didn't make them nazis either. Stop applying your small reference pools to subjects you know nothing about
>do you always make up headcanon about peoples stances in arguments?
Only when they're so braindead I need to assume the best, because otherwise there'd be no discussion
>we already went over you thinking
No, we haven't. Because that never happened. What happened was that you got called out for your stupid neo-nazi argument and are now sperging about the vault retcon and pretending other people stated they're the same thing
>in what sense does a vanquisher treating its defeated with negligence translate to the vanquisher imprisoning their entire population that isn't them?
I already told you to stop shifting the argument
>Still shifting the argument, moron.
how am I shifting the argument? Everyone is aware of the canadian PoWs being executed in the opening cinematic. This has absolutely nothing to do with enclave/vault tec turning their own citizens into guinea pigs
>how am I shifting the argument?
I already explained it here
>Everyone is aware of the canadian PoWs being executed in the opening cinematic.
Except you, apparently. Since you didn't bother to mention it when pretending it was Fallout 2 that turned pre-war America into a totalitarian militaristic dystopia
>This has absolutely nothing to do with enclave/vault tec turning their own citizens into guinea pigs
Yeah, it doesn't. Because the Vault retcons developed from the Vaults themselves and how someone pointed to Tim Cain that they're too few in number to effectively save America, independently from the Enclave
>Except you, apparently.
you made that up entirely, hence me askins if you prefer making headcanon of peoples stances which is now apparent.
so now you have shifted to pretending that the first minute of fallout 1 everyone sees when they start the game is somehow hidden lore that nobody but you is privy to?
>Fallout 2 that turned pre-war America into a totalitarian militaristic dystopia
a "militaristic dystopia" doesn't cover the level of human experimentation employed by VT/enclave, also a dystopia doesn't even begin to cover the actual pre war state of america, which was ravaged by riots. their government had no control of the situation.
>Yeah, it doesn't. Because the Vault retcons developed from the Vaults themselves and how someone pointed to Tim Cain that they're too few in number to effectively save America, independently from the Enclave
and the original point has nothing to do with this. I know what the vault experiments retconned, the idea of the state being behind this is somehow lost on you and you keep thinking that executing rebels which are a threat to your garrisons is somehow the same thing as conspiring to perform pseudoscientific medical experiments on a population scale is somehow the same lol
>you made that up entirely
Point me to when you mentioned the Fallout 1 opening scene before others did
>so now you have shifted
>no u
Try harder, homosexual.
>a "militaristic dystopia" doesn't cover the level of human experimentation employed by VT/enclave
It's not supposed to. It's a description of their government, not every single one of their practices
>and the original point has nothing to do with this
That was your original point. Let me reread it for you
>they basically turned america into neo nazis just by creating the enclave for frick's sake.
Which is beyond moronic, because nazism is its own ideology, and even if I'm gonna ignore you not knowing what Nazism means, Fallout 2 didn't turn pre-war America into it, Fallout 1 already showed what the government was capable of
>Point me to when you mentioned the Fallout 1 opening scene before others did
i wasn't aware that it would be required to state an obvious, since we are talking about relative surface level lore that pertains to events of fallout 1 and 2 especially. it's like telling someone they don't know fallout 3 starts with a religious connotation after playing through the intro. so you have essentially started to find a way out of this argument by bringing up that my stance somehow included not knowing about the very first minute of fallout 1, despite me talking about lore retcons between fallout 1 and 2.
>no u
how is any of my stance "no u", you literally just claimed, against my own word, that i didn't know about the LITERAL OPENING CINEMATIC of fallout 1, after i started talking about fallout 1 and 2 lore.... if anything, you are doing the exact thing, dare i say you are projecting.
>Which is beyond moronic, because nazism is its own ideology, and even if I'm gonna ignore you not knowing what Nazism means
nazism embodies racial sciences from late 19th and early 20th century european (mainly, it did spread into the americas as well) political sciences while synethsizing it with fascism, which is an ideology entirely for the state. obviously the enclave are interested in racial hygiene, and it's obvious they are on the fascist spectrum, considering their states are more or less ran by corporations and rampant usage of political violence against communists.
>late 19th and early 20th century european
actually i think it's way earlier, 16th century germans were already obsessed with uniting german speaking peoples and the concept of living space
>i wasn't aware that it would be required to state an obvious
An obvious what? And you're being made aware now. Now point me to it
>how is any of my stance "no u"
Do you need me to explain it you you what "no u" is as well?
>nazism embodies racial sciences from late 19th and early 20th century european
Congratulations for learning how to Google at the tender age of however-old-you-are. Keep reading that Wikipedia article and maybe you can tell me why Nazism doesn't fit the Enclave.
I am noticing how you ingored the bulk of my reply. Allow me to re-iterate
>i wasn't aware that it would be required to state an obvious, since we are talking about relative surface level lore that pertains to events of fallout 1 and 2 especially. it's like telling someone they don't know fallout 3 starts with a religious connotation after playing through the intro. so you have essentially started to find a way out of this argument by bringing up that my stance somehow included not knowing about the very first minute of fallout 1, despite me talking about lore retcons between fallout 1 and 2.
We are talking about Fallout 1 and 2, the information you are talking about is conveyed in the intro cinematic which everyone watches. Your entire argument has now shifted to "you didn't watch the intro cinematic of the game you are talking about", after your initial argument about the PoWs being executed means the same as the government killing their own population for experiments didn't work out.
So either you are claiming I somehow didn't watch the opening cinematic of Fallout 1 but I know the vault experiment is a retcon entirely, or you aren't. Which one is it? Don't get sidetracked again.
>I am noticing how you ingored the bulk of my reply.
When the first sentence doesn't make any sense, I don't feel compelled to go through the rest of it trying to parse through bullshit
>Your entire argument has now shifted
There we go, "no u" again
Try harder, homosexual
>after your initial argument about the PoWs being executed means the same as the government killing their own population
Literally never happened at any point. But keep trying.
Maybe you'll even finish that Wikipedia article too
>I don't feel compelled to go through the rest of it
So at this point you have shifted to completely ignoring my post while going "naa naa naa!" after you realized you can't make a compelling argument. Somehow I saw this coming after your first reply already included strawmanning my stance.
Gg ez.
>So at this point you have shifted
>no u again
God, you're a broken record, homosexual
>Gg ez.
Stopping your shilling so soon? You were doing so well being moronic. Tell me more about how the Enclave is a neo nazi organization, moron
>soldiers executing PoWs is totally the same thing
Stop shifting the argument, you dishonest homosexual.
Your annoyance was how the Enclave turned pre-war America into "neo-nazis" (which I charitably interpreted as totalitarian militaristic because I can't correct all of your moronation) when that was already a thing
You're now shifting that to how such a government wouldn't experiment on its own population
Pretending its not bad and then admitting they changed the people and cause responsible for EVERYTHING in the entire series to fit their phobia of nazies being everywhere and responsible for everything is pretty kek
>they entirely change vault tec
Which isn't egregious at all. You find 4 Vaults in 1. Yours has a broken chip and will die without help, 15 is abandoned, Necropolis had a faulty door and turned everyone in it into monsters and the LA vault was taken over by a monster. 75% of all vaults you find ended in disaster/suffered from problems. It's not a stretch at all to imagine it was done on purpose.
>they make up an evil deep state organization that wants to exploit its own citizens
And? The state was already shown as evil. It invaded our friendly northern neighbors for resources and was killing it's people. It also helped nuke the world
>they basically turned america into neo nazis just by creating the enclave for frick's sake.
Yeah, I remember all those swastikas in the oil rig
If those retcons aren't egregious then neither is the retcon that shady sands built skyscrapers between FO2 and Fallout on Prime. It's even less egregious than Shady Sands becoming the most powerful faction in teh world!11 after they can't keep their own villagers safe from khans without the dweller's intervention. By all means they should have been wiped as soon as the dweller left by the next group of raiders.
>And? The state was already shown as evil. It invaded our friendly northern neighbors for resources
Did leave out the rather crucial fact that they invaded for resources. Especially oil, which was still a life necessity despite attempts at converting to fusion.
So then, you see no difference between invading a country over national resources, and turning your surviving population into human data samples so that you can send a space ship with the VT/Enclave staff to start anew? A plan which by all means was a long shot, and didn't work out.
>Yeah, I remember all those swastikas in the oil rig
Why doesn't it matter that the Enclave wants to gas all "muties"? In other words anyone that isn't them. It's painfully obvious where their inspirations come from, coupled with the portrayal as cartoonishly evil faction, whose political leader is some "republican". It's extremely, painfully obvious they are fallout nazis.
>If those retcons aren't egregious then neither is the retcon that shady sands built skyscrapers between FO2 and Fallout on Prime.
What the frick are you talking about. The skyscrapers are LA pre-war skyscrapers. The retcon is that Shady Sands was moved into LA instead of being a completely post-war settlement 150 miles away.
>in FO1 Shady Sands started as a small farming community
>in TV show, Shady Sands citizens lived among crumbling, irradiated skyscrapers
genius worldbuilding
I find it interesting how their new version of Shady Sands seems to be so elaborately designed. It has its own architectural style and a whole fricking tram system with stylish ornately decorated trams. The trams are even shown in the vault's chalk board and the miniature diorama, as if they were really proud of them. Some people on the production team actually really thought the whole thing through, but for some reason they absolutely felt a need to move the town to the LA suburbs instead of keeping it in the desert. It would be interesting to hear the story behind that change, if there is any.
Well there are many different roles and levels of decision-making on show like this. The decision that the show should be focused on LA and Hollywood imagery and should feature a similar level of development as FO3 was probably taken at a producer level. Then some writers were tasked to make this happen, found out California had a capital with tens of thousands of inhabitants and decided to make that a central plot point. Then artists were tasked with coming up with a look for this new city in LA. Even if one of the CGI developers is a fan of FO1 and decides to include an obelisk from the original Shady Sands in the background, he has no influence over it now being in the middle of the Boneyard.
This version of Shady Sands looks very comfy, all things considered. Including the skyscrapers that could just collapse and take out a neighborhood one day, but whatever. Shame about the nuke, lmao.
The NCR did have well-developed settlements in the Boneyard, one of the doctors in NV mentions going to university there. So something like that could have existed without retcons. But the showrunners wanted to kill off the entire NCR, so it had to be the capital.
>that shady sands built skyscrapers between FO2 and Fallout on Prime
What? No one cares about those. Also, Prime what?
>By all means they should have been wiped as soon as the dweller left by the next group of raiders.
Except the NCR is a Fallout 1 ending. You need to play the game.
>Did leave out the rather crucial fact that they invaded for resources
You're right. It invaded Canada. Stole and plundered it and also massacred the local population. It's not just evil, it's super evil.
>So then, you see no difference between invading a country over national resources,
It's not about seeing no difference, it's evil either way. Rape and murder aren't the same but they're both evil. The US government being evil was already established. It being more evil isn't a stretch
>Why doesn't it matter that the Enclave wants to gas all "muties"?
Because it's not what nazis wanted?
>In other words anyone that isn't them
Right, the Nazis tried to kill everyone. Like Japan and Italy. They were planning to invade those countries and massacre their population as well
>Right, the Nazis tried to kill everyone. Like Japan and Italy. They were planning to invade those countries and massacre their population as well
The moron you're degrading yourself talking to, also conveniently forgets that the mutants in FO1 were (pretty much all) evil due to the master's control.
In an apocalyptic wasteland, where every day is a fight for survival, you don't take any chances. Even in an organisation like the Enclave. Its perfectly understandable that they wanted to get rid of that shit just to be sure.
He clearly knows nothing about the Nazis. They weren't keen on exterminating literally every other race that wasn't the Aryan one. They even had allied Muslim troops
Enclave didn't care that much about mutants. They discovered them fairly late in their plan when they excavated Mariposa. They explicitly wanted wastelanders dead. Curling-13, the FEV strain they developed, is exceptionally deadly to pure humans, as the experiments on V13 Dwellers confirmed. In fact, the less human you are, the less deadly it gets! Deatthclaws and floaters would be just fine!
>You're right. It invaded Canada. Stole and plundered it and also massacred the local population. It's not just evil, it's super evil.
oh so they are just like every european nation in the 19th-20th century, very cool! except enclave+vault tec did this to their own people
> It being more evil isn't a stretch
no this is the equivalent of europe invading africa, then setting up death camps in europe for europeans to die in while being medically exploited. its' fricking moronic.
>Because it's not what nazis wanted?
YES you frickwit. they wanted to literally deport or exterminate every pole in poland then repopulate it with german settlers. the exact same thing enclave wants to do after they kill every non-enclave member
>Right, the Nazis tried to kill everyone. Like Japan and Italy. They were planning to invade those countries and massacre their population as well
japan wanted to become the "masters of all colored people" so this would probably have led to german reich eventually going to war with the empire of japan unless they agreed to deporting all the subhumans.
>oh so they are just like every european nation in the 19th-20th century,
Yeah, who ever called the Belgian Congo, evil am I right?
>no this is the equivalent of europe invading africa, then setting up death camps in europe for europeans to die in while being medically exploited
Uh huh.
>they wanted to literally deport or exterminate every pole in poland
I didn't know "Poland" was "the rest of the world"
>the exact same thing enclave wants to do after they kill every non-enclave member
Nazis didn't want to kill every non-nazi though
>so this would probably have led to german reich eventually going to war with the empire of japan
Sure it would, can you provide any proof to that claim
So let's recap
You think the Shady Sands retcon is about skyscrapers (huh?)
You didn't know the NCR was from Fallout 1, not 2
You don't even question the Vaults
And you don't really understand history or why anyone would call invading another country, plundering it's resources and killing the local population, evil?
Okay
>japan wanted to become the "masters of all colored people" so this would probably have led to german reich eventually going to war with the empire of japan unless they agreed to deporting all the subhumans.
holy shit you are moronic and schizo.
Shhh, don't scare him off
I want to see what new moronation he'll come up with next
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_Equality_Proposal?useskin=vector
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dragon_Society?useskin=vector
I Wonder why japan had political goals in ethiopia, i really wonder??????????????????
>I Wonder why japan had political goals in ethiopia
gee I wonder
>mussolini was an agent of the black dragon society
kek, no wonder he was such a joke. i guess fascism was just a ruse all along.
That's not what I was implying. You asked why would a nation have plans for a country that a country they were allied with literally occupied. The same reason any country has plans for any country. Economics.
lol the black dragons were telling the Black folk across the US to rise up to help their "black brethren" in ethiopia against "western rulers", the tripartite was a meme
what do the black dragons have to do with the tripartite?
>not true
Play the games moron
>just like how shady sands was achtchyally the NCR instead of this random subsistence farm community
Did you have a stroke?
>Ruins canon
>Retcons estabilished story/characters
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
>Still praised by "fans"
Mario bros....I dont think we can recover from this
Ok bros... guess i'll have to check this new series out
>people love F2
>then people hate F2
>now people love F2 again
???
I really hate how well slop sells. The idiots who loved this went and mass bought FO4 as well.
In other words, get ready for more slop in vidya and TV form. Get ready for established canon to be thrown in the dumpster and pissed on. Because we live in a world of morons who can't get enough of terrible shitty fanfiction, especially if it contains moronic third grader political themes
>"slop" buzzword
I find it ironic that people who cling to catchwords think they are actually of higher mental acuity
Did you know that the word "woke" also originated on Ganker, but instead of being intended to call out gay shit, it was used to describe something as breaking the parameters of subverted thinking and was considered based? You wouldn't know that, though, because they appropriated it for their own ends and bastardized it, newhomosexual.
what words would you use to describe the TV show and FO4? Brilliant? A masterpiece of fiction? Fallout at its best?
It's the best way to describe it because that's exactly what it is. It appeals to the lowest common denominator and it's made for idiots who don't think about anything more than cool power armor and cool laser beams.
to the brim with political propaganda
name one
I finished watching this last weekend. It really is a sublime masterpiece.
low brow children on Ganker will never appreciate this kino
How can it ruin or retcon anything if it takes place in a separate universe than the games?
praised by "fans"
lol, said "fans" never played the games and just jumped on the newest FOTM wagon. If they're not outright paid by Netflix in botfarms.
How to spot a Fallout NV fanatic:
- Obsession with lore and canon he doesn't understand
- Thinks the only way to add to Fallout's story is to never touch the sacred "west coast" AKA Fallout Neo vegana (because he only knows about 1 and 2 through internet posts)
- Wants NCR to exist perpetually as a post-apoc United States Govt because he likes the safety of big daddy government
- Doesn't understand Fallout's humor
I think we'll recover just fine, we'll just observe as you to seethe and dilate for a year or two.
How to spot a homosexual
(You)
>watch first episode
>plot revolves around another "find your family member mystery"
What is Todd's deal? Why does he think that's what Fallout is about?
>series set in the late 30s BC, after the civil war between Caesar and Pompey
>The city of Rome, now located in Sicily, has been sacked offscreen by the Trojans, who have survived the past millennium and are now a major faction again
>As a result, the Roman Republic has completely collapsed. Only small bands of barbarians using old Roman equipment remain
>Sparta, after consolidating control over Greece, has sent an expeditionary force to Italy to secure the region
>Epirus has returned as a major power again, after they were previously thought destroyed
>Mary sue america slop woman mc
>perpetualy confused token black that exists for laugh and mockery
>literal troony character
Shills are really shit these days, you cant spin this well but calling people who arent shills trannies is gonna fool nobody.
Are you talking about Fallout 2, 3, 4 or the show?
why are the BoS knights so cringe and moronic? the voice is so ugly and annoying i hate it.
You think they would allow a man to be noble and charismatic character like danse? Not in the current year.
the fricking israelites......
He's Venezuelan/German/South Korean despite being israeli passing
>old guys sees two young people kissing and smiles
>this is INSANE
I think a show about a post FO2 abandoned Enclave Trooper trying to find a new life in the moving world would have been kino compared to this slop.
Why does the power armor look so bad? Looks like some stupid garbage straight out of those gay moronic cosplay conventions. They better up the budget ASAP.
>bethesda designed t60
>it's a physical prop made out of light plastic and foam
It throws me off so badly. They added all these thumping and clunking sounds but visually you can tell it weighs nothing.
>"true fans hate the show!"
>It's really popular
>"those are just mindless consumer tourist secondaries!"
>It's well received by most Fallout internet groups
>"those places were taken over by shills!"
>It's popular with the creators
>"Those guys are hacks! Also they were bought out!"
>It's popular with half of Ganker
>"the shills are here! Secondaries! Casuals!"
So the only "true" fans of the series are Gankerners, but Gankerners who agree with you. Gotcha.
This.
True fans appreciate this masterpiece
is this supposed to be an epic gotcha moment? witcher s1+2 are good.
>witcher s1+2 are good.
Fricking lol
The average Fallout show fan
how is s1 bad?
How is is not?
Awful cinematography, terrible special effects, college level play costuming
It literally misses the point of a lot of the short stories it adapts, it gives an unnecessary and intrusive backstory to Yen that occupies to much of the show, it ruins the friendship between Dandelion and Geralt, by turning Dandelion into a queer and Geralt a nearly mute angery man, and it's so obsessed with diversity it literally hurts it's own story, casting terrible actors (Triss) and actors that can't fight when they should (the midgets)
It's prime frickin garbage and if you liked I bet you liked Amazon's Lord the Rings abortion too
>Awful cinematography, terrible special effects, college level play costuming
"no u"
>it gives an unnecessary and intrusive backstory to Yen
that is s2 moron
>it ruins the friendship between Dandelion and Geralt, by turning Dandelion into a queer and Geralt a nearly mute angery man
wow so just like in witcher2??? NO WAI
>so obsessed with diversity
>obsessed
the irony, i honestly can't even remember yen being a pajeeta. yyou sound like someone who just watched some outragebait youtuber talk about the show. let me guess, despot of antrim...?
>no u"
I'm sorry you have no taste. But since my opinion isn't good for you, point me to all the awards those features of the show have gathered
>that is s2 moron
No, you stupid idiot it isn't. It's on 1, her days on Aretuza, her hunchback, everything.
>wow so just like in witcher2??? NO WAI
Actually play the game, moron. Dandelion wasn't a homosexual with a crush on Geralt there. And it's adapting the books where you there's more moments of Geralt appreciation Dandelion's company and friendship
>the irony
The irony of you defending a show and clearly not remembering anything about it
>i honestly can't even remember yen being a pajeeta.
It's not my fault you're brain damaged.
>yyou sound like someone who just watched some outragebait youtuber talk about the show. let me guess, despot of antrim...?
It's funny that you're such a homosexual that you assume everyone is like you and watch other homosexual YouTubers all day
>pretends to not remember ugly street shitter yen but knows literal who gaytuber
Do you keep track of all ecelebs who dont like what you like? pretty mentally ill behaviour.
Literally everything is bad in all seasons
only cavill is good
and the milk cow
i feel like this scene would be even more confusing with context
>EVERYTHING IS BINARY BINARY BINARY YOU CAN ONLY LIKE OR DISLIKE.
>YOU CANT LIKE SOME PARTS AND DISLIKE OTHERS
>ONLY GOOD/BAD
moron.
>Filled to the brim with political propaganda
Which one?
>Surely, the people who were behind Westworld S2-S4 are competent and can make something good!
Lol, nah.
This is what Fallout is now. Black folk and roasties.
During the last episode when they said "I guess we really are the Fallout 4 Nuka Cola Edition" I cried for 3 days.
They say "War never changes" twice in the last episode
praised by "fans"
huh?
the fans are all fo4 players
I've played everything except Tactics and I liked it. Now I'll play Tactics soon since the show seems to lean hard into the whole idea of Vault-Tec trying to retake the wasteland.
Tactics is very detached from that, you only fight the vault robot army in the last act. Long before that its raiders, mutants and supermutants for days. You may find that turn based is better than ATB as you progress the game because those super muties with .50 machineguns are no joke when you're managing everything in real time. I don't think you get the first tier of power armor by that point, only afterwards.
>White female character
>Black character
I am not watching your show
But it's so FRICKING brave anon you need to understand!!
They also do White male and Black female 😀
>Y'HEAR THAT, SKEETER? THERE'S H'WITE GENE-O-CIDE IN THAT THAR MOVIN' PICTURE BOX. TELL PA TUH GIT THE SHOTGUN AND SHOOT THAT TV!
This.
Don't you know chuds, interracial is the future?
You realize this show is already a huge hit without you, right?
to the brim with political propaganda
????
you're 10 years too late lol. 4 killed fallout for good, startfield shit on it's grave
just be glad nv exists
Liberty Prime will make a future appearance in some form or fashion, you know it, we all know it.
Isn't Obsidian also a shell of what it used to be? Even if they got their hands back on it, their next game would be Fallout's ME Andromeda because the people that made NV great and have either left or stopped caring. This series was doomed a long time ago.
Your gentle reminder that this was the same actress
Gentle reminder that watching this normieshit makes you a homosexual
I thought her voice was familiar I didn't realize
Betheshit 'fallout' fans are NOT fallout fans.
Fallout Ip contains
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Fallout Tactics
Brotherhood of Steel
That is it.
Neither bethesda nor obsidian have EVER made a Fallout game. No matter how hard they try and larp.
>Brotherhood of Steel
It's utter shit
this is a top 3 greatest show i've ever seen. they really hit it out of the park. can't wait for the next game now. i hope microsoft gets obsidian and bethesda to collab on it.
>I dont think we can recover from this
People said the same thing when Fallout "Oblivion with guns" 3 released. In fact, people were already upset at Fallout 2 for being more "whimsical".
The reason why fans accept the show is because everyone knows that Fallout canon has been fricked beyond saving already. There's no coming back either way.
So a show that does its own mix of things but gets pretty much the tone and details right(/at least as far as vidya adaptions go) is accepted. I mean hell, do you think Fallout 5 won't do its own canon once again, just like 3 and 4 did? Todd is unhinged.
ONLY thing I found actually moronic is that the NCR lady made no sense. Even seeking revenge on Kyle Maclachlan, it made little sense to murder innocent people for that. It made even less sense that she's NCR. The NCR doesn't care for anything not-NCR. It would be more fitting if she were a Follower of the Apocalypse.
>just give up
No. I will not watch troony sjw show. I will not eat bugs. Pirated all the games. I will own things and be happy.
>I dont think we can recover from this
>we
No, you won't and you'll be too busy fighting each other like the troons you are. Meanwhile, inXile-chads like myself will be enjoying the Wasteland games instead.
the series is older than most posters on this board, things change over time. You could argue Fallout jumped the shark with the second game if you really wanted to.
The atmosphere of the first game still hasn't been matched
What's the best mod for overhauling NPC appearance in NV these days?
Transition
Even NMA aren't seething any more kek. They are just spamming "first time?" memes at angry NV fans.
Video games?
Just wanted to say that watching the Fallout show made me pick up Underrail finally, and I'm loving it. Wish I played it when Ganker still talked about it.
Underrail is pozzed too anon
NTA but how?
When does the pozz start? I've got like 50 hours already and haven't seen it.
>Ganker likes it
>so it must be pozzed
rope yourself Black person
Look into the game V Rising.
>KichiBunz4,436.2 hrs
EARLY ACCESS REVIEW
POSTED: APRIL 22
The devs/staff are cool with sexual harassment. Got into global argument with people who were talking about my vegana and saying they were going to run a train on me and choke me with a necklace. Because I defended myself by arguing back, I got banned. The devs/staff did not do anything to the people who were sexually harassing me. In fact, they closed my ticket when I complained. I asked why they closed it and they apologized and asked me to restate my experience. I had to go through the story all over again and also included more evidence of them on a private server. The answer was they dont care, basically. It has been over a month of back and forth texting. This game is toxic as and the devs dont care about sexual harassment.
This is a review that gets my purchase of the game.
T60 was a mistake.
Fallout is an anthology in my head. Frick canon. Everything is an isolated incident with familiar backdrops
That's basically how everyone thinks about it. It's not even just Fallout, it's the same thing with every IP. Every new installment is basically a new thing. Sometimes a new installment strays into the wrong direction and the next installment basically ignores it. This will likely happen with the Fallout show. They've fricked a few things up. Nothing incredibly major so far, but the signs are there. We saw that Westworlds season 1 was pretty good, but the latter seasons were garbage. It's very likely that the same thing will happen with the Fallout show and Bethesda will go "Ehhh..... yeah that happened" and avoid talking about it.
>everyone is talking about FNV retcons
>no one is talking about how ghouls now require some kind of meds not to go feral and there's somehow a thriving industry that provides them with said meds
Everything up to TV show is non-canon now.
Is no one going to talk about how astronomically moronic the nuke scene was? God awful CGI.
Why couldn't Bethesda have had the BoS develop the t-45 and T-60 in the decades and centuries following the bombs? I don't get the reason for inserting them into pre-war tech timelines with the "well actually OUR designs were first/best" mentality
Because they love the t-60 for some reason
They're super proud of that garbage
They took the T-45 from the Van Buren project, the original Fallout 3. Wasn't their idea. They just came up with a unique design for it.
Cool never knew that. I never looked much into their planned fallout 3 other than the early build screenshots
>House ending becomes canon
seems like they fixed it to me
TV series are so fricked up with no originality that a 6/10 Fallout series becomes a 11/10 series for a lot of people because it's something new with new ideas.
>main character is female
>her love interest is a black dude
yeah man this show is pozzed anyone with a brain can see it just because it's early 2000s woke and not current woke doesn't mean it isn't woke. It's not for real fans or white men, and I won't support it because I'm both. End of story.
>real fan
Name 1 game you fricking dilettante
retconretconretconretconretconretconretconretconretcon kys
Continuity doesn't fricking matter between separate stories
>nitpicking lore in a series that has multiple endings in every game and has never had any 2 games match perfectly lore wise
Uh huh. I see.
>implying the paths you choose and pick as the mc have any impact on the origins of drugs like jet or how the master created mutants
the only thing you are seeing is your fat deformed moronic forehead hanging over your chocolate milk crusted lip
>implying I'm talking about MC story and not the lore shifting that happens between even 1 and 2
Fallout has a canon?
They are also trying to build Ella Purnell as a "woman of the fans" like Henry Cavill was. The idea is she plays FO4 and then plays a part in the series, that makes her one of the good ones just like Henry is for knowing his lore. It's transparent and pathetic, so they can have their own safe establishment idol that gamers worship.
They could give those 2 things new origins in every game and it'd be fine
I really liked the show but anyone who is saying that it's good or don't ruin the canon is either a moron or a normie who started with 4/shelter
>Still praised by "fans"
Is this real??? I watched this whole shit and it's mediocre at best, I just can't believe real "people" enjoying this shit
Both my mom and brother watched the show, complete boomers who still watch TV and they loved the show. Just yesterday he told me he was planning on playing Fallout 4. Should I just tell him to play New Vegas?
tell him to post bussy