It's pretty hilarious >Genshin at launch >"Bennett who?" >"Bennett's only good for expedition farming" >Various version of pic related with Bennett at the bottom >Stop playing the game >Come back like a year later, look at some resources >"Bro where's your Bennett he's required for every team"
The whiplash was very strong
Indeed. I personally ran Crescent Pike Xiangling like everyone else back then. My friend actually went Protoype Starglitter and felt so bad about it that he ended up using it as fodder. Foolish in hindsight as it was just fine her her considering her energy needs and would have had a small glow up with EoSF eventually.
It's pretty hilarious >Genshin at launch >"Bennett who?" >"Bennett's only good for expedition farming" >Various version of pic related with Bennett at the bottom >Stop playing the game >Come back like a year later, look at some resources >"Bro where's your Bennett he's required for every team"
The whiplash was very strong
Another funny bit of whiplash was Bennet's C6. There was no end of doomposting about bricking your account if you C6'd him. In reality it only meant not using him with Eula anymore or other Ph*sical carries. And Akaka I guess. No one who really needs him as a party member in short. Meanwhile it's a free 15% pyro damage bonus to the whole team regardless of weapon.
literally none of them were considered bad, Bennett was not anyone's favorite character but the moment anyone took even a second to read what his burst did, they realized he was broken
I'm so tired of you dumb homosexuals going "I can't believe how stupid everyone is they all thought these strong characters weren't strong until they found out what they did I'm so much fricking better than them incidentally"
get over yourself
Bennett was considered bad though, and that attitude lasted for an embarrassingly long period considering how easy it is for him to be great. Suggesting otherwise only makes it look like you weren't playing at release.
to be fair there was only 1 enemy type Venti's ult wouldnt pick up back then, now he's the weakest archon by far, any enemy that is threatening wont get pulled up and will have the mobility to get out of his ult area
I don't think that's entirely true. I feel like the intention was always that things would escalate as you travel through the nations. This was always eventually gonna happen. Even in just Mondstadt alone, there were three enemies who were mostly unaffected by his burst's draw, and these two enemies were also the toughest ones in the region. So it's natural that things would pick up from there. Lawachurls, Ruin Hunters, these were all always gonna happen one way or the other.
Have you been living under a rock anon? Keqing is good again after dendro and it is very easy to create a team for her.
You likely have Fischl somewhere as an older player and dendro attuned MC or the free abyss Collei are easy to acquire until you have Nahida.
Put them in a team together with keq and slap Zhongli, some anemo character or even Barbara on as a 4th member and you have a pretty decent team already
If you have Keka and Nahida you automatically won the game, It's that fricking good.
I been using that pair since Nahida come out and the only things I cant beat are electro resistant stuff
This is correct. Bennett was not considered bad, neither was Xingqiu. The problem was that nobody wanted to use them because they're frickboys, that's all.
Meanwhile everyone was fine with using Xiangling from the start because she's cute as frick.
>off-field application of strong element >snapshots, allowing her to properly serve god-king bennett
She's definitely the least secure of the group though. XQ is still meta even with a 5* direct competitor.
those characters sans the right were all meta when i last played 2 years ago how do people still play this shit it's an offline mmo with absolutely nothing to do but farm artifacts once you've explored the map
>those characters sans the right were all meta
Huh?
Kazuha was meta ever since his release. It was only Sucrosegays and Ventigays who were in denial that he was better than them.
That's the thing, I've seen a lot of posts where people say they plan on skipping, 'accidentally' get him from trying to roll for a 4 star, and then realize what they were missing.
Personally, I got him because he makes my other characters shine even more, like Ayaka, Raiden, Kokomi, etc.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling. I try to play Diluc. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Yoimiya. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Cyno. My Xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has Xiangling. I want to play Raiden, Childe - they both want Xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull Engulfing Lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Homa." I can't pull for Homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
i built dehya recently and i'm convinced most of the seethe around her is just because people are mindbroken over xiangling, like if a character isn't doing her moronic numbers they're just automatically LE BAD. i think she'll come into her own more when furina releases but people will probably still be seething that she's not a generic pyro dps to even bother trying them together
without >b or >k, her weapon, and at C0 she feels awful. Literally every other *5 still feels good with a f2p weapon option and at C0. If you are playing her and feeling good enough without what I listed I implore you to tell me what you're doing right so I may copy your homework.
so i am actually using bennett and kazuha + her weapon but she's at C0. i'll admit C0 leaves some to be desired damage-wise but you can extend her field's duration to the entirety of its cooldown even without C2 as long as you ult before its duration ends and recast the field at the end of the ult.
on the topic of bennett and kazuha they aren't really properly built, i never really use them that much but don't have anyone better to pair her with. bennett feels pointless because she just punches people out of his ult, i'll probably replace him with furina. i don't really see them adding too much to the table and i think in the future it's fair to say she'll get better supports that fit her peculiarities if furina is any indication.
all in all i use her in domains and exploration and i've been having fun, she vapes off of kokomi sometimes and it feels good. i need to get her crit dmg and ER up a bit more tho but she's functional and doesn't feel like dead weight
you're in a thread about mocking metagays, i don't give a rat's ass about doing the highest possible dps. i just want to play characters i like. it's not a dps race
If you truly liked Dehya, then you wouldn't purposely gimp her from her true potential.
8 months ago
Anonymous
and her true potential is what, replacing her with a character with higher dps? what the frick are you even trying to say?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Ignore the metagay, Benny and Kazuha are her best supports. Mona and Ganyu are kind of cope though for the 4th slot. But if you do get c1 its a pretty big game changer.
change Bennet for Xinqiu if you are finiding keeping the enemies inside his ult annoying, you will vape from every hit and get a bit of durability from the sword shield plus you just ult and swap back to Dehya
don't have xing built either lmao, and i don't really need her to vape as much as i need the team to function together properly for my own satisfaction. it'd feel like i'm doing something wrong using them together since she can't trigger his sword attacks during her ult
Dehya isn't bad because she isn't a damage dealer like Xiangling she's bad IN HER ROLE. Even when she released her kit looked confusing and badly made and then they released Fu Xuan in Star Rail that basically did the exact same thing except it works and it clearly exposed all the illogical problems with her skillset that make her barely usable.
Her E provides resistance to interruption, just like Fu Xuan provides resistance to CC, this is good, but why doesn't it last the whole duration of E? Is there any reason it couldn't?
She increases survivability by raising team's effective HP but eventually the team WILL run out of health and she can't do anything about that but there's simply no reason to waste another slot for a healer when you have other, better defensive options, including 4-stars, so why can't she heal at least somewhat?
That brings me to her Ult which is designed like a DPS Ult but basically doesn't do any damage and lasts 8 fricking seconds, it's also really poorly coded so if you jump it cancels, why doesn't it cancel on Ult button instead? If you get frozen, you're fricked. Why couldn't she provide resistance to being frozen? Ideally her Ult should just be 2 hits - one punch and one kick, and heal the team, then it'd be worth casting in an average team.
Finally her E is basically just code copied over from Albedo and changed to Pyro and just like Albedo's, the hitbox is atrociously small and doesn't trigger on shields so if the enemy's center of mass point is coded to be high up like with those robots, the explosion doesn't reach other enemies or dendro seeds on the floor. Why not?
If she had those fixes she'd become a real defensive unit instead of whatever the frick she is now (useless). And all of those fixes could be applied literally in scripting without creating any new assets, if I was Mihoyo I'd do that, put her back on a banner and apologize just to get some extra cash and restore some good will, but nah, she's too sexy to live
>Anemo characters are instantly rated on "Can their burst throw swirl around and disable enemies"
There's a reason floor 12 enemies are immune to venti and kazuha shit
Would Genshin be in a better state if B, XL, and XQ (and maybe Fischl and Sucrose too) were much worse but every other 4* got better? The only great 4* we’ve gotten since Version 1 was Kuki, who was also pretty bad until Dendro saved her.
The fact that they've basically negated a bunch of power creep is much better for the game than the fact that they're so meta is bad for it. Genshin would probably be dead outside of Asia if people felt pressured to get new meta characters while dealing with Mihoyo's embarrassing stinginess.
Just have a nice day already troony. The world stopped eating up american shit and China is about to become the world leader anyways
8 months ago
Anonymous
Shut your c**t mouth already moron, nobody is wanting to do business with China. Especially after your Covid attacks, nobody likes China, not even other Asians do.
>"Why are people afraid of spending a fortune on a low chance of a single constellation for their 5*?
They have a brain, and would rather spend it on buying complete games of much higher quality.
> You have to roll gacha to get the most OP character or can't progress.
It proves nothing it just showcases the p2w cancer mentality. Spoiled asian manchildren are the only ones that enjoy the type of play when west likes meritocracy type of deals in games...
>play gacha for free >maybe sometimes drop $5 on the monthly gems pass >get everything I want >havent bought a game in years >have tons of spare money in the bank
life is good
>xiangling >sucrose >fishl >benet >xingchu
All launched at 1.0, all op as frick, everybody has them c6 already.
I wonder whether mihoyo regrets about them.
>all were originally thought as garbage
Genshin theory crafters are the most braindead, useless trannies I’ve ever seen
It's pretty hilarious
>Genshin at launch
>"Bennett who?"
>"Bennett's only good for expedition farming"
>Various version of pic related with Bennett at the bottom
>Stop playing the game
>Come back like a year later, look at some resources
>"Bro where's your Bennett he's required for every team"
The whiplash was very strong
He's already great without it but his C1 is so good
>abyss mage (shield)
Kinda sad I missed release genshin.
It was a simpler time
>xiangling may now eat gouba
Xiangling was considered good from day 1, just for different reasons.
Indeed. I personally ran Crescent Pike Xiangling like everyone else back then. My friend actually went Protoype Starglitter and felt so bad about it that he ended up using it as fodder. Foolish in hindsight as it was just fine her her considering her energy needs and would have had a small glow up with EoSF eventually.
Another funny bit of whiplash was Bennet's C6. There was no end of doomposting about bricking your account if you C6'd him. In reality it only meant not using him with Eula anymore or other Ph*sical carries. And Akaka I guess. No one who really needs him as a party member in short. Meanwhile it's a free 15% pyro damage bonus to the whole team regardless of weapon.
literally none of them were considered bad, Bennett was not anyone's favorite character but the moment anyone took even a second to read what his burst did, they realized he was broken
I'm so tired of you dumb homosexuals going "I can't believe how stupid everyone is they all thought these strong characters weren't strong until they found out what they did I'm so much fricking better than them incidentally"
get over yourself
Bennett was considered bad though, and that attitude lasted for an embarrassingly long period considering how easy it is for him to be great. Suggesting otherwise only makes it look like you weren't playing at release.
Bennet was considered bad due to how his skill might throw him flying
always amazes me these early tier lists
>xiangling B
>venti S
>qiqi A
love it
to be fair there was only 1 enemy type Venti's ult wouldnt pick up back then, now he's the weakest archon by far, any enemy that is threatening wont get pulled up and will have the mobility to get out of his ult area
Two. The large Mitachurls and Ruin Guards.
Venti was so broken he changed the game's enemy design.
ah yes, the zhongli created abyss wolfs
I don't think that's entirely true. I feel like the intention was always that things would escalate as you travel through the nations. This was always eventually gonna happen. Even in just Mondstadt alone, there were three enemies who were mostly unaffected by his burst's draw, and these two enemies were also the toughest ones in the region. So it's natural that things would pick up from there. Lawachurls, Ruin Hunters, these were all always gonna happen one way or the other.
Venti is good, Kazoo powercrept him is all that happened.
>tfw freerolled Keqing back at the start
>kept her, because she was considered A or S rank
>fell off immediately
>still don't have Mona
Dude, Keqing has been considered one of the best characters in the game since Dendro showed up in 3.0. You have no reason to feel regret
Have you been living under a rock anon? Keqing is good again after dendro and it is very easy to create a team for her.
You likely have Fischl somewhere as an older player and dendro attuned MC or the free abyss Collei are easy to acquire until you have Nahida.
Put them in a team together with keq and slap Zhongli, some anemo character or even Barbara on as a 4th member and you have a pretty decent team already
If you have Keka and Nahida you automatically won the game, It's that fricking good.
I been using that pair since Nahida come out and the only things I cant beat are electro resistant stuff
This is correct. Bennett was not considered bad, neither was Xingqiu. The problem was that nobody wanted to use them because they're frickboys, that's all.
Meanwhile everyone was fine with using Xiangling from the start because she's cute as frick.
what even makes xiangling so good, is it just the fact that her burst applies a lot of pyro
>wHAt EvEN mAkEs..
b***h shut the frick up
Any character that can apply an element from off-field is really useful.
>off-field application of strong element
>snapshots, allowing her to properly serve god-king bennett
She's definitely the least secure of the group though. XQ is still meta even with a 5* direct competitor.
>have all of these
>only use XQ
The girl on the left looks nice but I agree with you about the three boys
Oh wait, this is a metahomosexual thread? I thought it was a coomer one.
those characters sans the right were all meta when i last played 2 years ago how do people still play this shit it's an offline mmo with absolutely nothing to do but farm artifacts once you've explored the map
People mostly play only a little bit each day/week outside of the periodic exploration phases.
There's no point to being a meta slave even if you're 36 star'ing the abyss.
>those characters sans the right were all meta
Huh?
Kazuha was meta ever since his release. It was only Sucrosegays and Ventigays who were in denial that he was better than them.
>all the kazulets that begged for reruns after they skipped
hahaha such good tears, i wish they never reran him
I skipped him in every one of his banners and will keep doing so in the future
Don't hate him or anything just dont care about how good he is, would rather save for characters I like more
That's how you should play the game. It's not remotely a hard game.
That's the thing, I've seen a lot of posts where people say they plan on skipping, 'accidentally' get him from trying to roll for a 4 star, and then realize what they were missing.
Personally, I got him because he makes my other characters shine even more, like Ayaka, Raiden, Kokomi, etc.
I'm sure he's really strong, I just dont think I need him
I skipped Kazuha thrice, most wanked character of the game. I fricking hate it everytime he appears on screen.
I just pulled for Freedom Sworn. It's comfy on Keq, Loom, and Shinobu. I've used it on Burgeon Bennett a couple times, also.
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Xiangling. I try to play Diluc. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Yoimiya. My Xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Cyno. My Xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has Xiangling. I want to play Raiden, Childe - they both want Xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the Catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull Engulfing Lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs Bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with Homa." I can't pull for Homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
i built dehya recently and i'm convinced most of the seethe around her is just because people are mindbroken over xiangling, like if a character isn't doing her moronic numbers they're just automatically LE BAD. i think she'll come into her own more when furina releases but people will probably still be seething that she's not a generic pyro dps to even bother trying them together
without >b or >k, her weapon, and at C0 she feels awful. Literally every other *5 still feels good with a f2p weapon option and at C0. If you are playing her and feeling good enough without what I listed I implore you to tell me what you're doing right so I may copy your homework.
so i am actually using bennett and kazuha + her weapon but she's at C0. i'll admit C0 leaves some to be desired damage-wise but you can extend her field's duration to the entirety of its cooldown even without C2 as long as you ult before its duration ends and recast the field at the end of the ult.
on the topic of bennett and kazuha they aren't really properly built, i never really use them that much but don't have anyone better to pair her with. bennett feels pointless because she just punches people out of his ult, i'll probably replace him with furina. i don't really see them adding too much to the table and i think in the future it's fair to say she'll get better supports that fit her peculiarities if furina is any indication.
all in all i use her in domains and exploration and i've been having fun, she vapes off of kokomi sometimes and it feels good. i need to get her crit dmg and ER up a bit more tho but she's functional and doesn't feel like dead weight
>Bennett and Kazuha
You could replace Dehya with literally any character in the game and do higher DPS.
you're in a thread about mocking metagays, i don't give a rat's ass about doing the highest possible dps. i just want to play characters i like. it's not a dps race
If you truly liked Dehya, then you wouldn't purposely gimp her from her true potential.
and her true potential is what, replacing her with a character with higher dps? what the frick are you even trying to say?
Ignore the metagay, Benny and Kazuha are her best supports. Mona and Ganyu are kind of cope though for the 4th slot. But if you do get c1 its a pretty big game changer.
change Bennet for Xinqiu if you are finiding keeping the enemies inside his ult annoying, you will vape from every hit and get a bit of durability from the sword shield plus you just ult and swap back to Dehya
don't have xing built either lmao, and i don't really need her to vape as much as i need the team to function together properly for my own satisfaction. it'd feel like i'm doing something wrong using them together since she can't trigger his sword attacks during her ult
oh she can't? Didn't know that I only used her during her character quest
Literally everything about her kit is designed wrong.
Dehya isn't bad because she isn't a damage dealer like Xiangling she's bad IN HER ROLE. Even when she released her kit looked confusing and badly made and then they released Fu Xuan in Star Rail that basically did the exact same thing except it works and it clearly exposed all the illogical problems with her skillset that make her barely usable.
Her E provides resistance to interruption, just like Fu Xuan provides resistance to CC, this is good, but why doesn't it last the whole duration of E? Is there any reason it couldn't?
She increases survivability by raising team's effective HP but eventually the team WILL run out of health and she can't do anything about that but there's simply no reason to waste another slot for a healer when you have other, better defensive options, including 4-stars, so why can't she heal at least somewhat?
That brings me to her Ult which is designed like a DPS Ult but basically doesn't do any damage and lasts 8 fricking seconds, it's also really poorly coded so if you jump it cancels, why doesn't it cancel on Ult button instead? If you get frozen, you're fricked. Why couldn't she provide resistance to being frozen? Ideally her Ult should just be 2 hits - one punch and one kick, and heal the team, then it'd be worth casting in an average team.
Finally her E is basically just code copied over from Albedo and changed to Pyro and just like Albedo's, the hitbox is atrociously small and doesn't trigger on shields so if the enemy's center of mass point is coded to be high up like with those robots, the explosion doesn't reach other enemies or dendro seeds on the floor. Why not?
If she had those fixes she'd become a real defensive unit instead of whatever the frick she is now (useless). And all of those fixes could be applied literally in scripting without creating any new assets, if I was Mihoyo I'd do that, put her back on a banner and apologize just to get some extra cash and restore some good will, but nah, she's too sexy to live
I can still make out the characters, need a lower resolution
>Hates one of the coolest male characters in the game next to Diluc and Lhongzi.
Shit taste.
>Saves your game
>mfw I've never used any of them since day one of release
Feels good to not be a metachurl
T_T
Haven't played this game in like 6 months, I was in Inazuma with Nilou green Amber Barbara and Green Aether
More like saves your game. Poorgay KINGS have had no trouble getting abyss gemmies thanks to this crew
I legit thought this was a shota thread at first glance
>Anemo characters are instantly rated on "Can their burst throw swirl around and disable enemies"
There's a reason floor 12 enemies are immune to venti and kazuha shit
Would Genshin be in a better state if B, XL, and XQ (and maybe Fischl and Sucrose too) were much worse but every other 4* got better? The only great 4* we’ve gotten since Version 1 was Kuki, who was also pretty bad until Dendro saved her.
There are far worse problems a game can have then easy to acquire 4*'s that can carry you and slot into most teams.
The fact that they've basically negated a bunch of power creep is much better for the game than the fact that they're so meta is bad for it. Genshin would probably be dead outside of Asia if people felt pressured to get new meta characters while dealing with Mihoyo's embarrassing stinginess.
XL is cute, too bad her team is full of homosexuals.
I don't own Kazuha
I will never own Kazuha
I don't need Kazuha
Grass Supremacy
>ai slop characters
1.0 genshin was soul
game went to shit when they added inazuma and everything became gay
Game peaked with Dragonspine. But it (and the Cube event) filtered casuals so they shifted the game's direction from there on.
Dragonspine was never gonna be the norm. No one lives there. Why would someone live in a place with such extreme conditions?
>You didn't beat the abyss
Hello!
IS THAT
Retooled reminder
It's gacha cancer, it was ruined from the day it was announced.
Why are tendies so afraid of gacha?
Western people don't feel like spending and wasting money gratifies them.
Unlike chink gambling addicts that can't get laid.
LMAO what cope is this?
Western culture is the most consoomer and materialistic shit
You are talking about black and hispanic, not white culture.
white culture is just mexican and black culture
Just have a nice day already troony. The world stopped eating up american shit and China is about to become the world leader anyways
Shut your c**t mouth already moron, nobody is wanting to do business with China. Especially after your Covid attacks, nobody likes China, not even other Asians do.
>t. amiibo and funkopop owner
> Muh physical goods the same as digital goods.
I don't own those things kek, there's an inherent value in owning physical goods over digital asset license.
Are you a chink by any chance since you are that triggered, is your name something like Park Hung?
if hating gatcha makes me a tendie then frick it
>"Why are people afraid of spending a fortune on a low chance of a single constellation for their 5*?
They have a brain, and would rather spend it on buying complete games of much higher quality.
t. Genshin player
uhhh just don't spend money?
Nahida is literally more broken than these 4 combined, but no one complains because Ganker is full of ironic and unironic pedos.
>Gacha China
>:(
>Gacha Japan
>:)
Gacha China: YES YES SMARRU DICKU MUST SPEND AROT OF DORRA TO MAKE WAIFU HAPPY!
Gacha Japan: Eh I'll just roll a few times a month tops.
>Gacha Japan
name three in ten seconds
Fire Emblem Heroes, Love Live School Idol Festival (2 is coming out to west), at least are decently made of course Fate/Grand Order also exist.
However frick general trend of gachas that require tons of things for unit upgrades.
Those characters single handedly shit on all anti gacha schizos, though
> You have to roll gacha to get the most OP character or can't progress.
It proves nothing it just showcases the p2w cancer mentality. Spoiled asian manchildren are the only ones that enjoy the type of play when west likes meritocracy type of deals in games...
What in the schizo rambling frick are you talking about?
>play gacha for free
>maybe sometimes drop $5 on the monthly gems pass
>get everything I want
>havent bought a game in years
>have tons of spare money in the bank
life is good
>xiangling
>sucrose
>fishl
>benet
>xingchu
All launched at 1.0, all op as frick, everybody has them c6 already.
I wonder whether mihoyo regrets about them.
I only just got my Fish to C6 like last week.
I invested in fish early so I can use lisa.
>sucrose
>fishl
>OP
thank god i left early
kinda sucks they keep nerfing the sliders with each new update. xiangling was much thicker here than her model is right now.