I'm saying that it's pretty curious how something like this has happened several times, where you'd have a headline like "jap developer says his new game will be JUST like X western game" and then you read the article and they were talking about some minute detail like npc having scripted behaviors for certain times of the day
should they just not tell people what they were inspired by?
I'm saying that it's pretty curious how something like this has happened several times, where you'd have a headline like "jap developer says his new game will be JUST like X western game" and then you read the article and they were talking about some minute detail like NPC having scripted behaviors for certain times of the day
It's a couple factors.
The first one is lingering sentiment from the era of Japanese gaming where the entire jap industry went collectively insane and bought into Inafune's bullshit about Japanese game design being outdated and western games being superior.
The next is interview bias. Of course they're going to tell the major western news outlet that they were inspired by <famous AAA goyslop that sold a gorillion billion copies>, because they want all the western normalgays to buy their game. They never bother saying this shit in interviews with Jap outlets.
The last one is just that Japs have shitty taste in western vidya. In the same way that most westerners' favorite jap games extend to entry level titles like FF and Monster Hunter, most Japanese gamers have little experience with western games beyond AAA goyslop because that's all that gets ported over. J>E translations are much more common than E>J. This is why so many Japs went absolutely crazy over Skyrim and Oblivion despite them being strictly worse than Morrowind; they'd never gotten the chance to play Morrowind outside enthusiast otaku because the game never released over there (to my knowledge) officially.
The entire JRPG genre was inspired by Western RPGs you dingus. They're not going to say "for the next Final Fantasy we are taking inspiration from.... Wizardry!"
Why would gta5 be something random to be inspired by? it wouldn't even be that one it would be one of the better ones but I see where you're going. Witcher 3 is a perfectly valid inspiration point it was one of the best games of last gen.
it's kinda like how whites affectedly praise Black folk and patronize them, it's a false modesty
but for japs it's literally cultural to do that, not only it's more polite and elegant but also they believe that it's better for your interests to talk lower of yourself and higher of your opponents, and for most situations they are right it's the best thing to do
and it works, western tards are intoxicated by these flatteries and really think they could stand a comparison with jap games
though TW3 is truly appreciated in Japan it's ultra popular there so idk for this one
How do people play shit like this when Japan has already perfected action combat. They have everything from DMC to Dark Souls and yet homies will play shit like this…
The combat in Witcher 3 never made sense to me. Canonically, Geralt is supposed to be able to tear through normal humans/elves/dwarves like tissue paper, but he struggles against even normal monsters, and is constantly getting hospitalized for months from monster-related injuries. And when he fights a magic user, he's just fricked, because they can use magic and he can't.
But then the game makes you take 20 hits to kill some random dick with a sword, monsters can't touch you, and when you pick a fight with that blonde witch bawd who wants to help Radovid to commit genocide, you actually just fight her when canonically she should be able to teleport you into space with a snap of her fingers.
Look, combat is cdpr's achilles heel, anon. It's unfair to ask them for good combat.
Why is the implementation of human enemies so much worse in 3 than it was in 2?
>morons that never played the game falling for bait
Many such cases.
The webm shows Geralt fighting a guard with a red skull over their head which means they're an extremely higher level than the player here thus why they take so little damage and the webm taker has to resort to literally stun locking the guard on geometry to make their webm.
I knew that and it doesn't change the fact that it's shit. I don't know if they patched it but I remember killing a red skull enemy with a poison sword and just letting the posiosn do the job
The truth is that there is not much beyond that. The whole potion system and preparation you can do before fighting a monster in The witcher 3 can turn things more interesting but at the end of the day you will just to the same thing and spam that attack button as you did with every other enemy.
If geralt at least had some variations in his sword combos it would make the game A LOT better.
How do people play shit like this when Japan has already perfected action combat. They have everything from DMC to Dark Souls and yet homies will play shit like this…
The combat in Witcher 3 never made sense to me. Canonically, Geralt is supposed to be able to tear through normal humans/elves/dwarves like tissue paper, but he struggles against even normal monsters, and is constantly getting hospitalized for months from monster-related injuries. And when he fights a magic user, he's just fricked, because they can use magic and he can't.
But then the game makes you take 20 hits to kill some random dick with a sword, monsters can't touch you, and when you pick a fight with that blonde witch bawd who wants to help Radovid to commit genocide, you actually just fight her when canonically she should be able to teleport you into space with a snap of her fingers.
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Many such cases.
The webm shows Geralt fighting a guard with a red skull over their head which means they're an extremely higher level than the player here thus why they take so little damage and the webm taker has to resort to literally stun locking the guard on geometry to make their webm.
Levels are dumb. Thanks for the answers.
The difficulty of an enemy should correspond to what they are.
A normal dude, low level
A monster, mid tier
A dragon, high tier
Mages and shit should be hard to combat but easy to kill. They're ranged, not fricking tanks.
I feel like this logic jumps too many elements in how a world balance in strength can work.
As example, depending on how this simple "dude" is trained or if he wears armor, a group of them can be more dangerous than a monster or even a dragon.
FF7R is all about that in its first game because depending on the training or weapons that Shinra troops use they can be very fricking strong. There is even those guys from dirge of cerberus that frick yuffie and sonon up
As you get closer and closer to the shinra building you start understanding how strong their arsenal is. At some point there are guys inside mini Gundams.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I actually just finished the game about 45 minutes ago I was getting out of hojos lab earlier in the thread. That frickass mech with barett and aerith sucked because I hadn't really optimized their materia at all.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That last boss before they run from shinra? That one can be really hard.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah right before the bike section. It wasn't hard he was just being a bastard and my materia set up made it frustrating. Aerith didn't even have a healing materia slotted so barett was having to carry. At least he had like 8000 hp so he was just tanking everything.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It can be very annoying. Just like hell house a lot of people can get stuck there if they dont know what to do.
4 months ago
Anonymous
that fight took me almost 10 minutes because it kept being a b***h and running around on the walls. that being said it was one of the only fights that actually felt like you had to moderately think for a bit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. The game starts presenting more and more fights where you need to think or use specific skills to create openings to do damage. So people who just use skills randomly get walled very hard. As i said, the first one is Hell House.
That's also why hard more is a lot better because the game starts with the idea that you already know the combat, so it gets harder and more complex.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I did just unlock hard but I'm wondering how the frick you are supposed to sustain yourself through the game because it says there are no items, and also benches only heal hp? How the frick you sustain your mp like that? is it only items in battle? Theres no raise so if someone gets downed they're just down, yeah?
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's been a while since i've played hard mode but yeah there are specific materia layouts you create to keep a basic sustain until you reach a bench or something similar to heal yourself fully.
>FF7R is all about that in its first game because depending on the training or weapons that Shinra troops use they can be very fricking strong. There is even those guys from dirge of cerberus that frick yuffie and sonon up
Because the human-monster-dragon logic only works if you are in the most generic rpg setting ever, like medieval castles and shit.
In any rpg world where humans arent just bottom of the barrel in strength that logic doesnt work.
4 months ago
Anonymous
In FF7's world outside monsters who are literally infused with mako and became abominations, shinra is the strongest group by far.
>levels are dumb >proceeds to use a leveling system, even freudian slipping and saying level by name in his supposedly "better" system
Magic better hit hard as shit in your system or mages are objectively not worth using.
The entire point of my "system" was that we need a better system than making every single enemy into a bullet sponge even when it doesn't make sense.
Like in the webm of Geralt hitting a normal enemy for several minutes simply because he's a skull/higher level.
The AI of the enemy should be where the challenge/difficulty is. He should parry your attacks, dodge your attacks. Why am I having to hit him 10,000 times to kill a normal human?
To add to this, bullet sponge enemy types like Monsters, Giants, Dragons, Gods, should still have weaknesses, weak points, or strategies to deal with them other than making them into solely a bullet sponge.
I shouldn't rely solely on hitting them until they're low enough health and a cutscene is prompted.
That feels bad.
4 months ago
Anonymous
One thing i like a lot is when a game has enemies with breakable parts. FF7R has that, choosing how to disable an enemy's weapon is always cool.
But i know it is probably too much work because imagine having to design 3-4 different animations and attack patterns in a single enemy if you consider which part of his body is destroyed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ff7r combat is too good to drop it. Maybe thats why they were talking about a ff6 remake, since ff10r can just get some graphics update alas CCR and call it a day
4 months ago
Anonymous
The truth is that FF16's combat could've worked, but the story they tried to tell doesnt match at all one that focuses in a single character. There is no reason to have only Clive playable if Jill, Cid or Joshua are next to Clive for 90% of the game.
So yeah if the intent is making a party focused game they should just keep improving and rehashing FF7R's system.
The fact they wouldnt need to start from 0 helps a lot.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I always wonder how much work goes in that behemoth. You can "disable" parts of his body in many ways.
Enemies should have levels, types, and variations. >Low Level Normal Dude Type #1 - 3 attacks, no elementals, one special attack >Low Level Normal Dude Type #2 - 4 attacks, no elementals, one special attack >Low Level Normal Dude Type #3 - 1 long attack, 2 fast attacks, no elementals, one special attack
Each of these could have levels and will have varitions >High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack >High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack, one special defense >High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack, two special defense >High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, two special attack, two special defense
This would count as only three enemy types. There should be at last 50 types in the game.
cyberpunk feels ok, despite it being >enter room >npcs all look at you >shoot 98479874509 bullets into bullet sponge enemies >have auto-heal chip keep you alive at all times
i don't know. it feels good, but it also kind sucks?
Webms like this kept me thinking this game wasn't worth my time then I finally played it and everything else was 10/10 so ultimately its a 9/10 for me. I can get good combat elsewhere.
yeah, ragebait webms on a Gankeridya hating board on an anonymous Gambian harpoon fishing forum aren't usually a very good source for judging whether a game is good or not
I'm not going to argue that Witcher 3's combat is all that great, but this is clearly a disingenuous webm since the red skull above his head means he's a way higher level than Geralt, thus more tanky.
>Fight enemy you are underleveled for, as denoted by their name being in red and the red skull above their lifebar >Act surprised when they take a lot of hits to kill
Hmm.
Witcher 3 has some cool quests but it is probably the most bootleg combat system i've ever seen in a rpg. They are lucky the other parts of the game can carry it so people dont talk about the combat.
I got the game with ps4 and good lord, I never expected the gameplay to be so bad. Sure the story, quests etc were great but game was too unplayable for me to continue. How the frick can they make such a lagged control when I have played the shittiest games with better controls
Yes, if you're a guy who values the combat too much you will not be able to go through that game. I can always ignore a bad combat if the world/characters/ narrative are good enough. But i dont blame people who drop that game.
Literally 98% of western AAA games have bad gamepla
I wish i was lying and i dont know what happened. In the 90s some western devs still understood the fundamentals of game design. Now if its not a japanese game i already know either the camera is going to be garbage like nugow, the hit feedback will be trash, the animations will be janky during GAMEPLAY, or every enemy will be hp sponges
Its all literally a case of misplaced priorities. And journos cover up these games failings so the goyim subcattle have to pretend these games are actually good cuz ‘muh influencer/journo said so’
Western games were just atrocious with presentation and clarity
That's why jrpgs were the first contact people had with rpgs in the 90s and 2000s, they were the only ones who were worried about these things.
That's also why companies like Bioware and many other western rpg developers looked at FF7 and other jrpgs to see how to improve.
I will always laugh at the BG1 writer talking how after playing FF7 he said "man, we need to get better because our character suck ass compared to FF7's".
Even if i prefer jrpgs, i think the attitude they had was right because that's how every industry improves. You look at competition and try to step up your game.
Like, i will always prefer jrpg main stories but if there is a thing i believe they should copy and learn with devs from CDPR is how to do sidequests, as hamaguchi said it himself.
I will always laugh at the BG1 writer talking how after playing FF7 he said "man, we need to get better because our character suck ass compared to FF7's".
It is kinda insane how mass effect is just a jrpg.
it proves that the gameplay of this beloved homosexualry is fricking shit. And that's all you can do for 150 hours. No switching to a holy light class, no necromancy. Just this. It's fricking garbage. Normies pretend to like it because muh deep adult themes and pretty wind fx. Garbage.
that's Toriyama isn't it? He likes western games a lot, FF13-2's quest structure was inspired by Red Dead Redemption iirc. FF13 was also inspired by Call of Duty or something in the linear cinematic design. And stop repeating "slop" over and over gain
According to Google, the original Dungeons and Dragons tabletop game utilizes turn based combat which has inspired both Western and Japanese RPGs. Square Enix still makes tradition JRPGs. Let them do something different every now and then. Besides, many other companies from South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and China are doing MMORPGs with action based combat.
JRPGs are just watered down CRPGs, the whole genre of RPGs have birthed so many other genres/inspired so many, that it's absolutely nuts.
Zelda was designed to simplify JRPGs, from which Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest had already simplified TTRPGs. Then there was Metroid which took Zelda and embraced platforming. There was Rogue which tried to be a simple RPG, and there was Ultima which tried to translate TTRPGs. It's such a storied evolution, it's just amazing.
>but I instantly knew it was Motomu Toriyama.
they've both said they love witcher 3
https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2023/12/20/how-square-enix-is-filling-rebirths-world-with-sidequests
[Sad News] Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is confirmed to be westernized slop.
i already wasn't going to play it, just like i didn't play ff16, because of it not actually being an ff7 remake. but this just reassures me that i'm correct not to.
Is this shit really that rough to be deleted/blocked this fast?
No matter what, find a solution anon, you peeked my interest so you need to deliver now, it's your duty.
Doomposters and larpers are moronic. They think movies were always pozzed, when the 80s were full of fantasy movies that nips loved. Hell ff is also full of different mythologies
Resident Evil was inspired by Romero, Wesker was Terminator, Ada and Leon? They are straight copied from Twin Peaks, where a police guy was a simp of an asian spy wearing red dress. There is even a Laura Palmer in re2
Clock Tower? Literally a rip off of one movie, surprised they were never sued for stealing Jennifer Conelly and the exact same villain
Metal gear had fricking american actors portraits
FF was never a trend king, ff7 simply was appealing enough worldwide just like dragon ball, same with RE, who just copied Alone in the Dark but RE was the most appealing one
Making a jrpg alas ff is expensive, its why most jrpgs are more comfortable in the anime, retro or visual novel zone. At most Legend of Dragoon tried but that was just a coincidence and the unluckiest timing.
And The witcher still preserves some of that classic fantasy tone before the pozzing virus.
Weebs are delusional morons. But >the witcher still preserves some of that classic fantasy tone before the pozzing virus.
Huh? When? If you're talking about the TV show?
you're a moron, he's talking about how rpg's even 9 years ago were not full of modern politics/homosexualry and woke shit, compare Witcher 3 and BG3 in term of writing, jokes and characters
Modern rpg's overall writing is fricking garbage
I was talking about the books, and Witcher 3 still preserved some of that old charm
Netflix show is fricking cancer though
you're a moron, he's talking about how rpg's even 9 years ago were not full of modern politics/homosexualry and woke shit, compare Witcher 3 and BG3 in term of writing, jokes and characters
Modern rpg's overall writing is fricking garbage
Exactly. And yet bg3 managed to survive thanks to having a few recognizable good looking characters.
Starfield directly went full Poo edition to the point not even mods want to bother.
My point is also how nips actually always looking for inspiration in western products, but that was because western stories used to be beautiful, with great designs.
Now everything is black from walmarts.
For the love of god, I like FF7 and FF7R and much of the franchise because you have full control of a party of characters. Don't fricking attempt another FF16.
This would be a good thing anon. Also botw has basically forced all nips to make their games open world, if the next DQ doesn't rip off of botw I'll be surprised.
you moronic fricking Black person. it's been loke that since FFXIII. fans' naivete is the actual problem, i would say -- from this kind of unknowingness to the morons who have stacks subs on top of subs and on top of more subscriptions. both are bad.
>FINAL FANTASY 7 """""REMAKE"""""" >Inspired by the Witcher 3
I mean Part 1 was an absoltuely shitty "le epic cinematic walking" slog after the airbuster fight and the sidequests became shit too so it had no hope but good fricking god how can anyone say with a stright face a whole different game is the "inspiration" for a remake?
Ganker was drooling over W3 when it came out, also games like stalker, New Vegas, morrowind and other good games were extremely liked on Ganker. Then an influx of contrarian zoomies, pajeets, and /misc/tards and redditors with no taste in good games started flooding Ganker and spamming hate treads just to get contrarian points and some morons actualli bit on the bait.
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Cultural phenomenon that's not nintendo drive those manchildren pedos crazy, to the point you can see some of those games threads deleted for no reason
Or maybe the game's just overrated? The combat's awful and it being open world makes it insanely tedious to get anywhere since you spend most of your time traveling. I've never even managed to finish it once it bored me so much.
This board is full of beaner coomers who are just colossal weebs, if you ask them to explain why they'll usually spout out some buzzwords followed shortly by revealing they're just coomers with yellow fever
Ganker has never been particularly fond of the Witcher 3.
Cultural phenomenon that's not nintendo drive those manchildren pedos crazy, to the point you can see some of those games threads deleted for no reason
Final Fantasy has been westernized flop for a while now, if you didn't notice. It lost its soul around the 00's, when SE catered to the western sheep. And not just for FF.
Toriyana doesn’t like JRPGs, makes sense I guess. 3rd Birthday, Front Mission Evolved, XIII, XIII-2, LRFFXIII, Remake, Rebirth.
Dude just developed garbage since always.
Im in the middle of playing remake right now. I just got out of hojos lab. I'm having a lot of fun but I wish there was more blue materia to really customize stuff.
I liked ff16, though I wish there was more depth to its combat.
I'm planning to play through crisis core after i finish remake.
My favorite final fantasy is 5.
I'm not touching 14 again until dawntrail or a significant content update, or its sub being merged with 11.
I'm really looking forward to rebirth.
I wonder if they will remake Dirge of Cerberus between rebirth and whatever the third game is.
I really like final fantasy
This. They keep updating W3 graphics, but goddamn has the combat system aged terribly. Can’t wait to juggle multiple characters on the fly in an open world
I actually don't understand how people look forward to this shit. It's going to be more stupid fanfiction nonsense and I kinda can't fathom that people pay for this trash when all it does is encourage SE (an already lazy company) to do nothing but rehash old nostalgic memories.
You can't pay for this shit AND be surprised that gaming is getting worse at the same time.
People are, in general, very very stupid. Those who buy remakes are the bottom percentage of those people. As long as they get to jerk their sad wieners at Aerith they'll gladly shit out 70 bucks.
Sub-human does not begin to cover it.
>it's "bait" to ask someone what games they like >anon can't answer the question because he either doesn't actually play video games, or he's too busy spending all his time shitting on other people playing video games he's decided they aren't allowed to like
Name one game. You wont.
I declare victory out loud when you're incapable of listing a single game because you're too self conscious to do so without exposing yourself to potential ridicule while you sit on your homosexual ivory tower and lambast everyone you've deemed inferior.
Name a game you coward.
Coming across as a bit defensive here Anon. How about you just pretend you won your little flamewar in your head and maybe the dopamin kick can put off you trooning out?
What games I like has nothing to do with this conversation, and your pathetic begging won't change that
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I still haven't named a video game, and I never will because I don't actually play them, but you're also a troony!!!!!
You lose. Sorry! Play again sometime.
4 months ago
Anonymous
How the frick does your own personal taste in video games have nothing to do with a conversation about objective quality of video games you dumbfrick? Answer the question.
The only thing I don't like about the remake is how lazy and contrived the time jannies as a concept are. Like why the frick did time even change in the first place? What was the catalyst for things being different this time that didn't happen in the original game. Also why were the time jannies even needed? What did they add to the story that simply having the timeline be different alone couldn't have also solved.
>What was the catalyst for things being different this time that didn't happen in the original game
Sephiroth not being the actual Sephiroth and instead being a Sephiroth who has lived through the events of ff7 hundreds, if not thousands of times and is trying to actively change fate because of it. >What did they add to the story that simply having the timeline be different alone couldn't have also solved.
Demonstrating that fate can be changed through enough willpower and giving a canonical reason for everything to go off the rails of pre established story.
If that is the case then they needed to have set up that premise better. They simultaniously showed Sephiroth way too much and also didn't give him any context. Now the setting of FF7 constantly time looping and with fate seemingly being unchangeable could be interesting but it's awfully set up in the first game. Who knows maybe I'll warm up to them in the 2nd game with more context but as of now time jannies are my least favourite part of the remake.
>If that is the case then they needed to have set up that premise better.
I actually 100% agree with you on this. Ideally Rebirth will explain it more considering the events of the time jannies dying also produced a parallel timeline where zach does not die at the end of crisis core and there are now two parallel timelines going together in rebirth.
To me it seemed like a case of SE wanting to have their cake and eat it too having both the understanding of players who played the original and also having the same sense of mystery that the original had too so they just end up underexplaining everything for the sake of being mysterious.
It's pretty sad that the actual remake parts of FF7R are the only good parts and the rest is shit tier, bloated with filler, Compilation garbage.
The problem with the new stuff is it's all set up that hasn't had chance to be paid off yet. Obviously it's going to be worse without having the completed puzzle.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's kind of fricked up you outright need to have played through all of original ff7 to even remotely understand what's happening in the background of remake.
Some of the best parts of 7 remake were the additional characterization and world building, which were early chapters that amounted to literally 3 static screens of walking in the original game. You are actually delusional.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Some of the best parts of 7 remake were the additional characterization and world building, which were early chapters that amounted to literally 3 static screens of walking in the original game.
Like I said, the things you'd expect from an actual remake were good.
The parts that were all about wanking the shitty sequels nobody cared about and changing the original plot to be about something completely unrelated were the bad parts.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's a remake, not a remaster. I'm perfectly fine with the game going in a direction that isn't laid out in front of me and immediately ruins all potential for surprise because it came out over 25 years ago.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>. I'm perfectly fine with the game going in a direction that isn't laid out in front of me and immediately ruins all potential for surprise because it came out over 25 years ago.
Then it's not a remake, it's a different game entirely riding the corpse of an old game for brand recognition. Or in this case, just yet another shitty compilation sequel.
Also, the "new direction" for the plot is objectively complete dogshit and only morons could possibly enjoy it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Learn what the word remake means. Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion instantly makes your opinion worthless.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Learn what the word remake means.
I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual. >Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion
I wasn't expressing an opinion.
Learn the difference between a remaster and a remake.
A remaster takes the original game and remasters its graphics/controls/etc. A remake REMAKES the game. It's going to be DIFFERENT. It's inherent to the definition of REMAKE.
A remaster is the original game with new assets.
A remake is a full remake of the game from the ground up.
If it's not the same game, it's not a remake. If it's another shit sequel nobody wanted, it's not a remake. It's a sequel.
Ys: The Oath in Felghana differs nearly as much from Ys III as FF7R does from the first game in its series.
The Oath in Felghana is a remake, and FF7R is not.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual.
Irony
4 months ago
Anonymous
>UHHH ackshully it's a remake, because they re-made a new game!
Shut the frick up Black person
Jesus Christ you are a pretentious twat.
Don't care, stupid homosexual.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's a sequel even though its the same story but playing out in a different way because fate has been defied
Well that's not how things work at all but to humor you, sure. It's a sequel. Now what?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Jesus Christ you are a pretentious twat.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>i wasn't expressing an opinion
yes you were shitheel stop backpedalling it's unbecoming of someone who so aggressively wants to be seen.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>yes you were shitheel
Nope, I wasn't.
The plot is objectivley fricking moronic. You are a moron if you enjoyed it.
There are no opinions in my posts
>it's a sequel even though its the same story but playing out in a different way because fate has been defied
Well that's not how things work at all but to humor you, sure. It's a sequel. Now what?
>Now what?
Now, like I said originally, the game is another shitty compilation spinoff.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You argue like a fricking 12 year old. Grow up.
4 months ago
Anonymous
How is doing nothing to a game but improving its visuals in any way more effort or more commendable than actually remaking a game, adding dialogue, depth, additional story and battle systems? In the current industry both would be sold for the exact same price, so what you're saying is you would buy a game that came out over 25 years ago that is exactly the fricking same in every single regard except it's GRAFIX, and you would pay full price for that?
You have the gall to admit you would allow yourself to be fleeced that easily while mocking others for playing something that is actually new?
4 months ago
Anonymous
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>Learn what the word remake means.
I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual. >Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion
I wasn't expressing an opinion.
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A remaster is the original game with new assets.
A remake is a full remake of the game from the ground up.
If it's not the same game, it's not a remake. If it's another shit sequel nobody wanted, it's not a remake. It's a sequel.
Ys: The Oath in Felghana differs nearly as much from Ys III as FF7R does from the first game in its series.
The Oath in Felghana is a remake, and FF7R is not.
you disingenuous moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's not remade in the specific way I want it to be remade therefor bad
That's not an argument.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's not a remake if it's a fricking sequel and not a remake at all.
If there is literally nothing that's the same about it except the setting, then it's not a fricking remake. It's a fricking spinoff or a sequel. In this case, it's the latter.
It's Dirge of Cerberus in the modern era except the modern person has such immensely shit taste in videogames that they're actually enjoying it this time around and asking for more of this slop. Although FF7R at least had decent combat unlike DoC.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's dirge of cerberus
Your moronic ass is just throwing out buzzwords now. My god get a fricking hobby or actually go play a videogame. This is pathetic reaching.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Name of another compilation game is a buzzword
Absolutely mindbroken holy frick
4 months ago
Anonymous
Considering "compliation game" is some random fricking term you've coined that nobody else uses and you're trying to turn into a buzzword in a desperate bid for validation of your opinion, no. Pretty sure you're the one who is mindbroken. I'm gonna go back to playing 7 remake now continue pissing yourself in this thread losing arguments with every anon who makes the pointless decision to rightfully call you a moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>No, it's not a remake if it's a fricking sequel and not a remake at all.
Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive >If there is literally nothing that's the same about it except the setting, then it's not a fricking remake. It's a fricking spinoff or a sequel. In this case, it's the latter.
Well good thing none of this actual nonsense applies to the FF7 remake.
It's Dirge of Cerberus in the modern era except the modern person has such immensely shit taste in videogames that they're actually enjoying it this time around and asking for more of this slop. Although FF7R at least had decent combat unlike DoC.
At this point I can only assume that you're actually schizophrenic cause you aren't even making sense anymore.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive
Yes, they are.
If your game is a sequel, it's not a remake, full stop. If it takes place chronologically after the original and relies on the events of the original having played out for its plot to work, and requires you to have played the original to fully understand its plot, it's not a remake, it's a fricking sequel. >At this point I can only assume that you're actually schizophrenic cause you aren't even making sense anymore.
What about what I said makes no sense, are you ESL?
Dirge of Cerberus was correctly mocked and shit on by everyone when it came out.
FF7R comes out and does the exact same thing, and now it's praised by a bunch of pathetic morons so far up Square-Enix's ass that they forgot what FF7 even was, assuming any of them actually played it at all.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Why was dirge of cerberus mocked anon.
Want to tell the class?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Because it was a garbage sequel trying to make money off the back of a better game.
Now was I talking about FF7R, or Dirge of Cerberus? Trick question, it was both. The only difference is one was successful.
4 months ago
Anonymous
dirge of cerberus was mocked for shitty controls, bad graphics, and an edgy story. Not because it was a "sequel". people were fricking foaming at the mouth for MORE final fantasy 7 before dirge released.
What the frick is this revisionist history you actual scum felching troglodyte?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>dirge of cerberus was mocked for shitty controls, bad graphics, and an edgy story
Well, FF7R has two of those if you replace edgy with pants-on-head moronic, and the controls in Dirge were actually pretty good if you used a KB/M, so I don't see what your point is. > people were fricking foaming at the mouth for MORE final fantasy 7 before dirge released.
Frick no they weren't, Dirge was one of the last of the Compilation titles to release and they specifically stopped doing those because Dirge flopped so hard. People's fatigue with shitty FF7 sequels was rapidly increasing when Dirge came out and Dirge is what killed what little hype people had after the slew of shitty cell phone games and the trash fire that was Advent Children. Crisis Core did terribly financially because of people being completely done with the whole compilation by that point. SE correctly canceled the whole project after that and waited a decade to pick it back up because they knew moronic zoomers who've never heard of the compilation or played the original would eat it up, and lo and behold, they did.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Crisis Core did terribly financially because it was on the fricking PSP you dipshit.
Dirge flopped because it played like shit, and that was enough for it to fail because back then game magazines actually reviewed things still and it meant something. Vincent alone wasn't enough to sell the game. >7 remake has two of these things if you completely change what one of them is
Wow very impressive anon, I guess you'de be a heterosexual if you stopped sucking so much wiener too!
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Crisis Core did terribly financially because it was on the fricking PSP you dipshit.
Didn't stop Dissidia from selling gangbusters. >Dirge flopped because it played like shit
Crisis Core also played like shit and people love it. >>7 remake has two of these things if you completely change what one of them is
There's not much difference between having an edgy plot and having a fricking moronic plot.
Like I said before, the DoC shit they shoved into the remake feels right at home there.
Probably because the game is a complete joke, aesthetically, tonally, an thematically.
If you play FF7R for any reason other than gameplay, you have brain damage.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's moronic because i say so even though i've yet to even demonstrate I understand what the plot actually is
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's moronic time loop bullshit.
There has never been a good sequel that shoved time travel/multiverse bullshit into the plot out of nowhere. FF7R did not break that streak.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stranger of Paradise is laughing at you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Multiversal travel and time travel are inherent themes to the entire series what the frick are you talking about?
4 months ago
Anonymous
So what part of FF7's plot had time travel in it?
Stranger of Paradise is laughing at you.
Stranger of Paradise gets away with it because it's actually a good fricking game and not just "eh, the combat's pretty good I guess"
4 months ago
Anonymous
>There has never been a good sequel that shoved time travel/multiverse bullshit into the plot out of nowhere >except stranger of paradise
lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
Stranger of Paradise is not a good sequel to FF1.
Granted, a good sequel to FF1 would be a boring game.
Stranger of Paradise also does not have a good plot. It has excellent fricking characters that carry it instead.
FF7R doesn't have that. It has "the OG FF7 crew except mildly flanderized and all their good moments are ruined by the presence of harry potter monsters."
4 months ago
Anonymous
what the frick are you talking about the stairs scene in 7r and all of his speeches to the rest of the avalanche crew did more for barrets character than the entirety of midgar in the original game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the time jannies show up a grand total of like 4 times across 15 chapters of the game. they are barely present until the actual finale.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the only things stranger of paradise has going for it is jack as a character and the combat being fun. it has the exact same things going for it that 7 remake does. the only difference is that one has multiplayer.
4 months ago
Anonymous
dont people love crisis core because the story is moronic... kind of like how ff7 remake is moronic?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Me? gongaga
4 months ago
Anonymous
If anyone hasn't played FF7 it'd be you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's a fricking sequel and not a remake
quit.being.pedantic.fool.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's not disingenuous you moron you are implying a significant amount of people want a game from 25 years ago remade only in regards to graphics and maybe voice acting and that would be sufficient for you to buy it. Whereas 7 remake goes above that, and does more things, but is somehow slop by your definition.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>It's not disingenuous you moron you are implying a significant amount of people want a game from 25 years ago remade only in regards to graphics
see
>Learn what the word remake means.
I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual. >Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion
I wasn't expressing an opinion.
[...]
A remaster is the original game with new assets.
A remake is a full remake of the game from the ground up.
If it's not the same game, it's not a remake. If it's another shit sequel nobody wanted, it's not a remake. It's a sequel.
Ys: The Oath in Felghana differs nearly as much from Ys III as FF7R does from the first game in its series.
The Oath in Felghana is a remake, and FF7R is not.
you disingenuous moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
hey guess what a small subplot being introduced to the game doesn't change the fact it's still final fantasy 7. the only difference is that it might play out a bit differently now. If you're actually griping over this one change triggering your autism so much that it can no longer be called final fantasy 7, that's a you problem.
Unfortunately for you, the game is fun, sold well, and will continue to sell well with it's sequels. It's not going away, there is nothing you can do to stop rebirth and the final game in the trilogy from releasing. they're solid remakes. Cry about it sweaty.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>a small subplot
moron.
Also, nice backpedaling.
>Unfortunately for you, the game is fun, sold well, and will continue to sell well with it's sequels.
Ah yes, the same argument Bethesda uses for "why Starfield is good, actually."
4 months ago
Anonymous
Starfield isn't fun. 7 remake is. die mad you balding fatass.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Starfield isn't fun.
It sold a billion copies and some moronic Black folk on the internet like it, so according to you it's fun.
Sorry, but it's your argument, not mine.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTEGRADE >ALL REVIEWS "VERY POSITIVE" (17,426) >RECENT REVIEWS "VERY PSITIVE" (916)
Oh, suddenly it's about steam reviews now?
Nice backpedaling, again.
FFXV has good steam reviews too. So does XIII.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I think when a game is very positive and a vast majority of people enjoyed it, and you're trying to compare it to a game that is so desperate to defend its existence they start using ai to respond to steam forum posts you have lost the plot.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I think when a game is very positive and a vast majority of people enjoyed it
What a surprise that a vast number of people who didn't play the original game enjoyed the game, because they didn't care about it shitting on the original.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's shitting on the original BECAUSE I SAY IT IS
See a therapist! It's done nothing but respect the original because you have to have fricking played the original to even understand the plot occurring in the background. How can you possibly respect the legacy of a game any more than making playing it a literal requirement to understand anything?
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's disrespectful because Square Enix continues to disingenuously label it a remake, to lure people into playing it instead of the original.
Like you said, it relies on the original because it's derivative garbage created by hacks with no talent left in their dementia-riddled minds. Despite this, they falsely marketed it as "the remake everyone's been hyping up for years and years" and then it's just another compilation sequel, and not actually "the remake everyone's been hyping up for years and years." But they knew that, and never intended it to be a remake. They just knew marketing it as "another Compilation sequel" would mean that zoomers wouldn't rush to buy it in droves to experience FF7 for the first time. It would be like marketing Half Life Alyx as Half Life 3 and calling it that, only for it to come out as some bizarre experimental VR spinoff title.
Anyway I'll see you when Reunion drops and it's as shit as KH3. I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics you'll be using then?
4 months ago
Anonymous
go play the phone remaster then. it's literally what you're asking for so frick off to it and stop b***hing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>go play the phone remaster then
see
>It's not disingenuous you moron you are implying a significant amount of people want a game from 25 years ago remade only in regards to graphics
see [...] you disingenuous moron.
you disingenuous moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
continously quoting your own nonsense posts because nobody else is giving them (you) is pretty sad. if they actually said anything of value someone besides you would be replying to them.
Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters instead of b***hing like a petulant little homosexual that a remaster doesn't do enough differently and the remake does too much.
You goldilocks homosexual. Nobody is making you eat the porridge.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters
Why would I do that? I want a remake, not a remaster. >n-no you want a remaster
Sorry, not listening to the moron that verbatim said that he thinks these two games are literally the same exact game with no changes whatsoever besides graphics.
4 months ago
Anonymous
your only potentially valid complaint about 7r is the story.
which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity even if the time jannies plot was not present.
You exist to b***h. You don't play video games. You whine about them on the internet because you're old and you don't enjoy playing things anymore. You want to sit there and screech old good new bad and wonder why nobody takes anything you say seriously.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>your only potentially valid complaint about 7r is the story.
Nah, I have other complaints, like the game being full of farmed out chink assets or just plain ugly shit like low res backgrounds, some of the new characters being obnoxious and pointless, the abundance of filler (I understand that there's going to be some but there should have been more optional content and less filler to ruin the pacing of the original story), etc., but those complaints always get ignored because nobody has strawman arguments to throw at them. Or they just outright agree with them, I haven't really seen anyone defending the soulless asset farm shit, to the zoomers' credit. >which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity
Again, not going to humor the moron that claims Ys III is 100% identical to OiF.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The second you posted anything about Ys I knew this wasn't going to be a discussion anyway. You can't have a discussion with people who have such terminal autism they actually play that series. Even the slightest change to a pixel would give a Ystard an aneurysm.
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's funny, considering Felghana makes far more substantial changes to the original plot than FF7R does to FF7's plot. To say nothing of Celceta, which makes even more changes.
Oh, it seems like you're the one who doesn't play videogames now though. Must have been projecting in that last post, I take it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I never claimed to play Ys. This isn't a Ys thread.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It's a mildly popular and influential series, surely someone who "totally plays videogames" would at least know enough to know how substantial its remakes are, right?
Surely you wouldn't be complaining about a fanbase who lauds the remakes as being far superior to the original games as being a fanbase who "has an aneurysm" when something is changed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I complain about a fanbase that is well known for its autism, yeah. I don't need to know anything about the games to call its fanbase autistic. Thats not a criticism of the games themselves.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>yeah I made shit up that is literally the opposite of the truth. Also, I am moronic and think a 3D isometric action platformer is the same game as Zelda 2
Oh okay, so everything you say is made up and you don't play videogames.
I accept your concession. Have a good night, self-professed moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't made a single statement about any Ys game so you pulled the second half of your funny greentext directly from your festering butthole but good try. it must be difficult being so brain damaged.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I haven't made a single statement about any Ys game
You literally just said that the fans love the remakes because they're identical to the originals.
You also claimed that when I compared FF7R to OiF, that I was saying I wanted the game to be "identical except for graphics."
These statements mean you are stating that OiF is identical to Ys III. This is, of course, incredibly fricking moronic. But of course, you wouldn't know any of that, because you don't play videogames at all.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You literally just said that the fans love the remakes because they're identical to the originals.
I never said this. You are making this up. >You also claimed that when I compared FF7R to OiF, that I was saying I wanted the game to be "identical except for graphics."
I never said this either. You are making this up too >These statements mean you are stating that OiF is identical to Ys III. This is, of course, incredibly fricking moronic. But of course, you wouldn't know any of that, because you don't play videogames at all.
I don't know anything about Ys, and I'll freely admit that because I have no interest in the franchise and I'm not a self conscious cuck who has to lie about game experience to seem more genuine. You brought up Ys for no reason at all thinking everyone would know anything about it because you're autistic.
I don't care about Ys. I don't care how Ys handles remaking/remastering their games. It has no bearing on Final Fantasy 7. If you like how they remake/remaster their games, then go play those games, moron.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I never said this. >I never said this either. You are making this up too
The second you posted anything about Ys I knew this wasn't going to be a discussion anyway. You can't have a discussion with people who have such terminal autism they actually play that series. Even the slightest change to a pixel would give a Ystard an aneurysm.
> Even the slightest change to a pixel would give a Ystard an aneurysm.
your only potentially valid complaint about 7r is the story.
which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity even if the time jannies plot was not present.
You exist to b***h. You don't play video games. You whine about them on the internet because you're old and you don't enjoy playing things anymore. You want to sit there and screech old good new bad and wonder why nobody takes anything you say seriously.
>which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity even if the time jannies plot was not present.
continously quoting your own nonsense posts because nobody else is giving them (you) is pretty sad. if they actually said anything of value someone besides you would be replying to them.
Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters instead of b***hing like a petulant little homosexual that a remaster doesn't do enough differently and the remake does too much.
You goldilocks homosexual. Nobody is making you eat the porridge.
>Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters instead of b***hing like a petulant little homosexual that a remaster doesn't do enough differently and the remake does too much.
go play the phone remaster then. it's literally what you're asking for so frick off to it and stop b***hing.
>go play the phone remaster then. it's literally what you're asking for so frick off to it and stop b***hing.
And these are just the ones that are part of this specific reply chain. You've posted it other times, but those are parts of other reply chains, so you'll pull a "oh, that totally wasn't me teehee~" if I post them. Just look for all the replys with "see <post#>" I've had to make towards you because you, for some inexplicable reason, chose to keep falling back on your strawman about wanting a remaster despite me demonstrably proving otherwise repeatedly.
>I don't know anything about Ys >>but I decided to make some shit up. Now dude trust me I'm totally not disingenuous. Despite just saying that I am completely disingenuous.
Okay, moron. > I'm not a self conscious cuck who has to lie about game experience to seem more genuine
And yet, you are doing just that. >You brought up Ys for no reason at all thinking everyone would know anything about it because you're autistic.
I brought it up because a quick google lets you verify that Ys III and Oath in Felghana are completely different games.
Then when your moronic ass was too lazy to swipe left on your phone to another tab to google it yourself, I even posted a screenshot showing the difference. Yet you still continued with your nonsensical strawman.
You even gave up on it at one point, but for some reason, went right back to it. Just fricking stop dude, you look like a fricking homosexual.
4 months ago
Anonymous
it's hilarious when you realize the time jannys are these homosexual anons b***hing about story changes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Most people would have been fine with 7R's graphics and battle changes being applied to an actual remake of the game.
There's absolutely zero added depth in the new narrative content, it's in fact so bad that doing less with the title would have been more commendable
4 months ago
Anonymous
>zero added depth in the new narrative content
The stairs scene alone in shinra hq was more enjoyable than the entirety of midgar in the original game.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Learn the difference between a remaster and a remake.
A remaster takes the original game and remasters its graphics/controls/etc. A remake REMAKES the game. It's going to be DIFFERENT. It's inherent to the definition of REMAKE.
4 months ago
Anonymous
A remaster is literally just a texture upgrade or asset port
A remake should only be different via addition, not replacement, of prior content, typically only adding features that are considered modern standards at the time of release, like voice acting, cutscene skipping, journal entries, etc
FF7R is a pseudo sequel reimagining of the game, the same way Rebuild of Evangelion is not a remake of the series it takes it's name from
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Then it's not a remake, it's a different game entirely riding the corpse of an old game for brand recognition.
That is exactly what a remake is, at least in Current Year.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Also, the "new direction" for the plot is objectively complete dogshit and only morons could possibly enjoy it. >objectively
Do you even know what the "new" direction is? Or did you watch a bunch of youtubers b***h about it?
I'm not gonna be the one paying for it ultimately, and this crazy dumb shit of a trainwreck no one asked for but the "I DON'T WANT IT TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME" shitposters is going to be glorious to behold.
There's so many worse games to use as inspiration. My main concern with this game is how they're going to work around the stupid plot changes introduced in the first part.
What do you mean work around? The whole point of 7 remake was to say "this story is off the rails and anything from here on is not going to be comparable to the original game". There will be similar plot beats, and characters but it's clearly going down differently. The end goal is still to beat sephiroth.
I think I would have been more annoyed if they did something as low effort as a 1:1 conversion of the original story of 7 to just better graphics. The amount of storytelling and depth they can give to characters sorely in need of it like barret with the way they have stretched everything out has made me appreciate the characters more. And it leaves you guessing a little as to where this shit is going so you're actually moderately invested instead of "well this is ff7 again". Isn't the mobile game ever crisis or whatever its called basically a direct remaster of ff7 anyway?
Why are they so utterly determined (for decades now) to make Final Fantasy NOT Final Fantasy? Why are people who hate Final Fanfasy in charge of Final Fantasy?
Final Fantasy is a lot of things that aren't easily summarized in the amount of words I'm prepared to devote to you. I feel you're trying to lead into a 'Final Fantasy changes somewhat between games, so it's defined by change and any change is justified' argument, which I've never agreed with.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'll stick to my original point about what FF isn't, and how it's baffling that the people in charge of it seem to want it to be anything other than Final Fantasy. And that is the answer you're getting.
No it didn't, it just had ridiculously bad character designs and felt like fanfiction for how out of place it was in FF7's world.
It's pretty telling that the Dirge of Cerberus shit is right at home in the remake and isn't out of place at all anymore.
I hate how edgy and cool Cloud is in VIIR and every Compilation material ever.
Dude was a moronic dork in the original game. Sure, he was cold at first at the beginning of Midgar, but that was usually because Barret pressed him.
Around Honey Bee and Shinra Building he had already warmed with the rest of the cast.
Stop complaining about it not being a 1:1 remaster of the game, it's different and that's automatically a good thing and it being the same as the game it's remaking in any way would be bad.
If it's fine why are you complaining? Cloud is great in the remake because he's different, it's a remake, not a remaster, so everything has to be different than the original. If you want the original just go play the phone game.
He does actively warm up at honey bee and shinra. The entire stretch on the way to wall market is him slowly getting used to being around aerith to the point he finally gives her a high five at the end of the collapsed highway. And he actually willingly dances.
He is progressing at the exact same pace he would in the original game, it's just stretched out.
You didn't even play the remake, did you? There is dialogue from tifa that he is trying to hard to be cool in one of the sections you play as her.
7R Cloud is the goofiest homie what are you talking about? How the frick can you see the images of this man riding a Segway and think they're trying to make him cool.
You have actual autism. You are making a subjective statement, trying to portray it as an objective fact, and when people rightfully tell you that you are spouting an opinion as fact you deny it like an autist. If you don't like the game that's fine. You are free to your opinion. Stop being a relentless homosexual and trying to stealth pass your homosexual opinion as fact.
You don't even know my personal opinion. I think they are silly and dumb. But that's a subjective opinion. It's not fact. I'm not a narcissist who thinks their thoughts and opinions are the only ones allowed to exist, like you've so eloquently demonstrated for everyone in the thread. Every single one of your posts could have added a "to me" at the end of the post and you could have had an actual discussion about things. But because you have horrific narcissism and are determined to be "CORRECT" you spew that its objective and you act like a homosexualy b***h to everyone. And you wonder why barely anyone, (if anyone actually is and it's not just you samegayging), is actually agreeing with you in this thread instead of calling you a moron.
Learn to have an actual conversation with someone I am begging you.
>You don't even know my personal opinion.
You're claiming the time jannies being stupid is not factual, so I know your personal opinion is that they're not stupid. Otherwise you wouldn't disagree with the fact that they're stupid.
See, that was easy. >Every single one of your posts could have added a "to me" at the end of the post and you could have had an actual discussion about things
I doubt it considering some moron is still going on with the remaster strawman an hour later.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Except I just said I think they're silly and kind of dumb.
So no, you don't know my personal opinion you're just terminally assravaged someone is calling you out for trying to pass subjective opinion as objective fact.
You can have as strong of an opinion as you like but an opinion is an opinion. it's not a fact. Provide peer reviewed documentation and an actual paper if you want something to be a fact. Otherwise get the frick out.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Except I just said I think they're silly and kind of dumb.
Great, then you have no issue with my posts since the only statement I made that was objective was that the time jannies are fricking stupid and you'd have to have brain damage to enjoy a plot about them. Which is a fact.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>thing is goofy >YOU MUST HATE THE ENTIRE PLOT BECAUSE THING IS GOOFY
you're actually brain damaged wow
4 months ago
Anonymous
No you syphilitic wiener sucking inbred Black personhomosexual cum felching giga twat. My issue with your posts is you have been (and are continuing to) propagate your opinion as a fact. It's not a fricking fact. You overestimate your own importance and demonstrate textbook narcissism every time you try to pass what you think as objectively true and fact, just because it is what you think.
Media is inherently subjective. It's fricking media. It's not physics. It's not math. It's not chemicals.
Either you simply don't understand what "fact" means, or you are so blinded by the gross incandescence of your own ego you don't realize how fricking obnoxious you are.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The only thing I stated was fact was the factual parts of my post. Those being that A) the game is a sequel, not a remake and B) time jannies are fricking stupid.
You can cope and sputter all you want, those two things are still objectively correct, and I've still never passed my opinion off as fact.
4 months ago
Anonymous
it is your opinion that the time jannies are stupid thats subjective also the game is a remake because the characters in the game are REMAKING the plot into a new one
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it is your opinion that the time jannies are stupid thats subjective
You have brain damage.
People like you should be beaten to death in the public square for having the gall to speak with such narcissism. As a lesson to others.
Genuinely. You are actually beyond help if you don't see how obnoxious you are.
If you genuinely don't understand the difference between sharing your opinion and stating its an objective fact and everyone else is wrong, I seriously hope you get shoved foot first into an industrial shredder, you deserve nothing less.
If my post is narcissistic, it's because you have brain damage and believe those two facts aren't facts.
4 months ago
Anonymous
skip to the part where you were trolling all along and pretending to be moronic ok
No that's objective, just like the objective fact that the game is not a remake
its objective that its not a 1:1 remake sure, its still a remake
That's not a remake that's a redo
if a game is a remake and then gets changed at the end for a new ending its still a remake
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry anon. It's just objective truth. You have to go in the industrial shredder now. Just because you have brain damage and believe you dont belong in an industrial shredder doesn't mean it's not fact. You know how it goes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
No that's objective, just like the objective fact that the game is not a remake
4 months ago
Anonymous
That's not a remake that's a redo
4 months ago
Anonymous
People like you should be beaten to death in the public square for having the gall to speak with such narcissism. As a lesson to others.
Genuinely. You are actually beyond help if you don't see how obnoxious you are.
If you genuinely don't understand the difference between sharing your opinion and stating its an objective fact and everyone else is wrong, I seriously hope you get shoved foot first into an industrial shredder, you deserve nothing less.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Where the frick do you think you are you dumb zoomer moron
4 months ago
Anonymous
did you just call someone who posted a ron paul election shitpost a zoomer
BUT BUT BUT
Ganker told me that Japan is the BEACON OF CREATIVITY IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY and that they're the masters who gave birth to the La Creatividad Kojima and Miyamoto so why are they stealing ideas from the west?
tbh tbh tbh tbh KA!?
Fricking Mario, MAN. I used to play that shit for hours at the local laundromat. I must've sunk at least 2 hours of my LIFE into that shit man. Just CRUSHING TURTS.
The only good Final Fantasy VII was the one made around Kitase was dickridding Sakaguchi. Advent Children and literally everything post-FFVII is completely garbage.
I honestly can’t believe anyone even likes Crisis Core if not because of Zack. The actual gameplay is worse than FFII or some Nes RPGs.
The Remake was made for Amerifats. Look at how MCU it is, it’s literally a comic garbage multiverse writting that they’ve been consuming since the 50s.
>dissidia never existed >the interdimensional rift never existed >omega never existed >gilgamesh never existed
Just admit you've never played final fantasy at this point it's becoming sad.
Dissidia is a garbage spin-off made for people like you that also enjoy garbage like VIIR.
Original Gilgamesh died in FFV, just admit you never played the game or any mainline game, there’s nothing about FFV that is multiverse. Being called Interdimensional Rift doesn’t change that, none of the characters from FFI, II, III and IV appeared in FFV. >Hurrrdurrr Gogo in FFVI
A cameo and nothing more
Being a cameo is completely different from crappy multiverse timelines that the Remake established, the fact that you’re a homosexual and want Zack alive to ship him with Aerith doesn’t change that.
something isn't a cameo just because you personally don't like how it fits in the canon >the fact that you’re a homosexual and want Zack alive to ship him with Aerith doesn’t change that.
where did this come from you are mad as frick
You did not just step to me on understanding Final Fantasy 5.
Gilgamesh returns and sacrifices himself to defeat Necrophobe explicitly AFTER all of his interdimensional traveling. It is him RETURNING from being banished to the void. Theres a reason he's significantly stronger after he returns from it. Because he gained experience during all of his travels.
I've never even played crisis core. Why do you think I give a frick about zack? The last time I mentioned the character I spelled his name as zach that's how little I care about the character other than funny gongaga post.
You're exposing yourself horrifically right now this is pretty sad.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Not my fault if you pretend that FFV had timeline multiverse garbage. It didn’t, none of the mainlines except for the ones Toriyama directed had it.
Try playing the actual games.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>start talking about ff5 again >refuses to elaborate where this insane shipping autism about gongaga man and the walking katana decoration came from completely unprovoked >doubles down on moronation anyways
Jesus dude. What the frick is wrong with you?
I hate witcher 3, but will probably love rebirth since it has interesting characters like cloud and barret instead of that boring gary stu jerry of the riviera.
Nothing at all, this board is just full of fricking weebs who hate anything western and popular. They actually believe FF7R is a good game somehow despite being an 80 dollar cliffhanger with 5 hours of gameplay.
5 hours is exaggerating but it is short for the price tag, especially a re-release on PC. Also they're going to wipe all gear and shit you grinded out in the first one, anyway.
Its gameplay and combat is dogshit, what which saved it was its pretty good writing. Unfortunately such level of writing is rare from Japanese devs and especially from modern Square Enix. The Persona games have some bloody cringe, moronic writing but in the end you don't care because the gameplay is good enough. Unfortunately modern day Square wants paper thin gameplay in their games which means there's nothing to distract you from the shit writing.
>[Sad News]
Reminder this is a SEAmonkey writing this, because they can't discern emotion and tone from text they need a literal marker to tell them how to feel when reading a thread.
Most story-focused JRPGs follow the structure of Final Fantasy IV. FFII NES if you want to mention an even older game, although that game was still mostly a dungeon crawler with few dialogue, although unlike FFI and FFIII, the characters were not generic. You can see FFIV’s structure and setpieces in Wild Arms, Breath of Fire, Tales, Golden Sun, Xeno, Shadow Hearts,Star Ocean, even stuff like Trails.
FFXV is basically one of the latest Assassin’s Creed games that have RPG elements. It’s an open world game with a lot of fetch quests.
Can't believe people are still crying about this, what more can be said? The remake series will continue on its path
The only thing that could change it is real life time jannies. I think it's great tbhuu
I wasn't sold on the 2nd part of the remake until I saw all the goofy silly shit they added to it. Now it's up there as one of my most anticipated games with Dragon's Dogma 2 and MH Wilds.
What is the target audience for the Final Fantasy games?
i played FFVII recently and it was so fricking cringe, it was unplayable.
for who are these games being made? >not for kids, because "SHIT FRICKS c**t b***h" are in dialogues non stop >not for kids due to all the breasts being flashed everywhere, obviously coom bait >not for adults, either, because the story and dialogues seem to be written by a 5 year old child afraid of talking to girls in his kindergarten class
who the frick is the target audience for these cringe games? >well, beta nerds who like coom-baits
if thats the case, selling 3 mln copies is a gigantic fricking success.
What is not cringe for you? FNAF and LoL?CS?
There’s nothing wrong with FFVII, the setting, atmosphere and the Materia system are still among the best in the whole genre. Midgar in special is great.
FFVI was also good in that regard, with Narsh, Vector and the destruction of the world.
Square was inspired as frick around 1994~2000, people got great stuff like FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Tactics Ogre, FFVII, FF Tactics, Xenogears and FFIX in 6/7 years.
You were just filtered, being the riffraff you are.
FFXIII-2 and LRFFXIII also had a lot of garbage quests, and so did Xenoblade that, for no surprise, was released around the same time.
But yeah, a lot of bad fetch sidequests is modern bullshit design in JRPGs.
FFX had the Arena and Celestials, XII the marks, but none of them were MMO-styled like these (FFIX and X had some pretty awful minigames, tho…which are worse than boring fetch quests at least for me).
There were hunts sidequest in XII, dude. But you might be right, it probably started from XI. I can't really think of sidequest, or at least the form of sidequest that is lifted from MMOs design scheme in FFX and prior. There are sidequest, but they don't exactly tell you upfront that you need/can do them. Like the chocobo hot&cold, in IX, breeding in VII, dark summons in X, basically finding every ultimate weapon. These could be considered sidequest.
>literally only JP game that sold more than 3 million copies are
kingdom hearts, dmcv, resident evil, monster hunter world, elden ring, dark souls 3, dragon quest xi
I could gon
>play ff7 remake >it's not even finished >buy episode 2 in 5 years whitto piggu fumao
The fact that some people are ok with this is so pathetic. It was a literal scam.
Could've swore I heard in one of those early previews that you can just use them. Is there another resources/meter now that we need to build up, next to the ATB I mean. I didn't see any meters here. In Max's video it didn't seem like there's any ATB use either.
Those arent synergy skills, those are other stuff
It's mostly aimed to utility and it takes two to do instead, when you could have used 2 abilities with each one
Is this different than the move that they've shared on twitter, there's one where Cloud was slashing Aerith's magic that turns into a projectile and another is Tifa throwing Cat Shit into the mob. Also, is this (the one from the pic earlier) cancellable? Like while the animation is running, can I stop and use a different ATB move.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes they are different
The synergy abilities i believe they are called are basically the big attacks like the one you mentioned
The synergy skills are the ones you posted. Abilities that are more utility oriented, like lifting Tifa with aerith, that one or bodyguard.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I see, thanks for the clarification.
4 months ago
Anonymous
The one you posted it's damage oriented, but it's needs to be charged and requieres two characters, while you can just use 2 separate atb with the characters. It's not that spammable imo.
It mustn't have reached Square Enix yet if he's still getting early access, with how much he shit all over FFXVI after given preferential treatment and a presence on the show floor before release.
While he didn't exactly sing praises, he didn't go full sperg or "gamer mode". He gave criticism like a functioning adult would.
4 months ago
Anonymous
While playing Spiderman 2 he was asked to compare the two, which is when he did go full sperg mode against FFXVI.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I see. I didn't saw that. But to be honest, it was pretty obvious he wasn't enjoying the game, I think it was after Titan where he's trying so damn hard to not be thinking about playing the game. He wasn't streaming the game as frequent all of a sudden, if it weren't for chat, he'd probably drop the game. Probably why he was a bit more harsh, he was kinda forced to play the game. While during his XV Royal playthrough, he was defending the game from people telling him to stop playing it. I honestly don't take any streamer's opinion seriously. Their view on a game is often swayed by their community or gaming at large. I respect streamers who'd play the games offline, away from their chat and then give their views on it. At least I know their view are personal and not affected by chat spamming "weeb/woke trash", "cringe" or "HYPE!!".
He gave it a fair score. Besides this is like with Capcom, they tried to make up with re7 after trying to pander to codgays with 6, I can see them not falling for the action meme again
You need to stop thinking nips have that twisted evil side like westerns
>Could've swore I heard in one of those early previews that you can just use them. Is there another resources/meter now that we need to build up, next to the ATB I mean. I didn't see any meters here. In Max's video it didn't seem like there's any ATB use either.
The sinergy attacks seem really strong but it seems like the resources it uses are more expensive
It mustn't have reached Square Enix yet if he's still getting early access, with how much he shit all over FFXVI after given preferential treatment and a presence on the show floor before release.
To be fair every critic he did make sense. But yeah he is lucky that he's big enough, talk blatantly how he disliked that game and not be blacklisted.
You know, I'm playing Tales of Arise right now, it makes me appreciate the bosses in VIIR. At least your approach is consistent. Put enemy into pressured status, use stagger move, break stagger, use HP move. It's repetitive, sure, but at least it follows the same logic. Humanoid boss fight in Arise is fricking ASS. Fricking hell. Like Jesus fricking christ, who the frick thought hyper armor and HP sponges is a good fricking idea for boss fights. At least I can aim for weakpoints and stun while fighting giant zeugels.
Currently playing them back to back after finishing Arise and I couldn’t agree more. They’re very comparable in a way that only spotlights Aries’s shortcomings. As t least it was pretty to look at
I think if ubisoft towers were just bossfights or like, an actual dungeon people wouldn't shit on them as much. a location that reveals stuff on the map or removes fog of war is fine in theory, the method of doing it is just getting really boring.
I think they are doing that will all the characters. But yeah cait will probably get a lot more to work with and the fact he is a cute goofy cat will make a lot of people like him.
Theres needs to be a proper explanation for Cait Sith. Does Reeve fully control all aspects of him 24/7? Like does Reeve put on the Scottish accent to speak through a microphone or does he just tell Cait Sith what to say and that Scottish voice is just Cait Siths own voice? Does Cait Sith have its own thoughts and feelings about things and can he operate by himself without Reeve? When he dies does he get fully copy pasted onto the new physical body or is it a totally new Cait Sith with its own separate opinions and thoughts?
If they go this route, i wonder if this would truly make cait a living thing that can actually die.
I think making him a puppet that receives orders from Reeve could be better than just making him a robot, but who knows what they'll do.
>If they go this route, i wonder if this would truly make cait a living thing that can actually die. >I think making him a puppet that receives orders from Reeve could be better than just making him a robot, but who knows what they'll do.
I think they could make him a proto-android, who has his own personality. Remake already touches on the subject with characters like Chadley.
Well, while it would make more sense for him to use some form of gun, since Vincent AND Barret use guns I think it'd be cool to have him use Kusarigama
What happened to the consensus on TW3? Used to be people were having debates over the best girl and comparing, favourably, the way CDPR showed attractive naked women compared to the crap the west put out. Now it's "slop" to even be inspired by it? What happened?
>The game itself is alright but the combat sucks.
And yet it still has more daily players than Skyrim somehow. I mean, once you experience the story once, I don't get what else there is to do. It's not like you can roll a different build or roleplay in anyway.
It's not exactly a high bar. Skyrim's gameplay is worse than most other action RPGs, it just has tons of choice, but the people mostly playing Skyrim nowadays are modding the frick out of it. The Witcher's got a public limelight thanks to the show and the first game's remake on the way plus CDPR being popular right now thanks to their "redemption arc", and the story and in-game content doesn't really need mods to enjoy them.
>It's not exactly a high bar
Skyrim and Witcher 3 are consistently some of the top most-played single player games on Steam. It's a very high bar that almost no other single player game comes close to more than a year after release.
I am. I'd be willing to stomach a lot of the moronic changes if the combat was good, but it's not. If the gameplay is fun I can let a game get away with a lot.
>Falls down >"I can protect the planet too!" >"There's plenty of stuffed toys like my body around, but there's only one me!" >Don't forget me even if another Cait Sith comes along." >"Good bye, then! Guess I'm off to save the planet..."
You mean the mode that is literally only usable for random trash mobs and can't be used at all for any important story fight? That action mode? Yeah I'm aware of it. I'll repeat. Black person what?
It's still in the game. Falcom makes actionslop not real JARPIGS
4 months ago
Anonymous
okay, go back to playing etrian odyssey then
4 months ago
Anonymous
>okay, go back to playing a good game then
I will!
You mean the mode that is literally only usable for random trash mobs and can't be used at all for any important story fight? That action mode? Yeah I'm aware of it. I'll repeat. Black person what?
I don't understand who gets excited for this trash. Final Fantasy hasn't been good since 10 and hasn't been great since 9. What baffles me the most is people who praise the combat. FF1 on NES had more tactical depth than FF7R.
Final Fantasy hasn't been in a good place since FF9. Calm the frick down and let them try out something new. It's not like there's anything to lose anyways.
>It's not like there's anything to lose anyways.
Yeah, let's just spend the next 20 years pumping dog shit games over and over again, after all, we have unlimited time, isn't it?
why do japanese devs keep doing this thing where they tell an interviewer that they were inspired by the most random shit like GTAV or something
should they just not tell people what they were inspired by?
I'm saying that it's pretty curious how something like this has happened several times, where you'd have a headline like "jap developer says his new game will be JUST like X western game" and then you read the article and they were talking about some minute detail like npc having scripted behaviors for certain times of the day
It's a couple factors.
The first one is lingering sentiment from the era of Japanese gaming where the entire jap industry went collectively insane and bought into Inafune's bullshit about Japanese game design being outdated and western games being superior.
The next is interview bias. Of course they're going to tell the major western news outlet that they were inspired by <famous AAA goyslop that sold a gorillion billion copies>, because they want all the western normalgays to buy their game. They never bother saying this shit in interviews with Jap outlets.
The last one is just that Japs have shitty taste in western vidya. In the same way that most westerners' favorite jap games extend to entry level titles like FF and Monster Hunter, most Japanese gamers have little experience with western games beyond AAA goyslop because that's all that gets ported over. J>E translations are much more common than E>J. This is why so many Japs went absolutely crazy over Skyrim and Oblivion despite them being strictly worse than Morrowind; they'd never gotten the chance to play Morrowind outside enthusiast otaku because the game never released over there (to my knowledge) officially.
Nice
>"Erm... well actually this issue seems to be way more complex and has a multiple issues before you can tackle it straight on"
Maybe he liked said game and got inspiration to emulate some things he likes while playing said games.
Maybe read the replies before responding to someone's post
they love to suck white wiener
It's always modern dogshit games too like Skyrim or Witcher never anything classic and actually good from the west
Skyrim is not modern, dumbass. Witcher is also not modern, it's almost a decade old.
I’m going to die of old age…
The entire JRPG genre was inspired by Western RPGs you dingus. They're not going to say "for the next Final Fantasy we are taking inspiration from.... Wizardry!"
You dumb zoomer Black person.
The entire JRPG genre exists because they loved Ultima and Wizardry so much.
Why would gta5 be something random to be inspired by? it wouldn't even be that one it would be one of the better ones but I see where you're going. Witcher 3 is a perfectly valid inspiration point it was one of the best games of last gen.
Gravity Rush was inspired by Crackdown of all things
did you play crackdown though? had some crazy jumping physics
They're trying to appease their masters at Sony.
I'm glad devs pre-emptively tell me their game will be shit so I don't get hyped and just play something else
it's kinda like how whites affectedly praise Black folk and patronize them, it's a false modesty
but for japs it's literally cultural to do that, not only it's more polite and elegant but also they believe that it's better for your interests to talk lower of yourself and higher of your opponents, and for most situations they are right it's the best thing to do
and it works, western tards are intoxicated by these flatteries and really think they could stand a comparison with jap games
though TW3 is truly appreciated in Japan it's ultra popular there so idk for this one
Unless it's got a good system for item mixing I think the dev is straight up lying.
The director has good taste!
Witcher 3 is a masterpiece, if they manage to recreate something like it, then Final Fantasy will be back.
Witcher 3 is good and better than most JRPGs
I love JRPGs, you are still correct though. Being beaten by the best is no insult.
>is good
no
>is better than most jrpgs
yes
>wrpg: spam attack button
>jrpg: spam attack option in menu
Literally what it is on west and east.
Why do people get mad over artificially created dichotomies that are not actually representative of reality?
More like
>jrpg: spam 10 minute long cutscene attack
>jrpg: spam attack option in menu
If you have never played JRPG, then why do you talk shit about it?
>he never played the original ff7
lul
This shit....
>morons that never played the game falling for bait
Many such cases.
The webm shows Geralt fighting a guard with a red skull over their head which means they're an extremely higher level than the player here thus why they take so little damage and the webm taker has to resort to literally stun locking the guard on geometry to make their webm.
>t. posted the botw webm with link stunlocking a golden bokoblin multiple times
I knew that and it doesn't change the fact that it's shit. I don't know if they patched it but I remember killing a red skull enemy with a poison sword and just letting the posiosn do the job
The truth is that there is not much beyond that. The whole potion system and preparation you can do before fighting a monster in The witcher 3 can turn things more interesting but at the end of the day you will just to the same thing and spam that attack button as you did with every other enemy.
If geralt at least had some variations in his sword combos it would make the game A LOT better.
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How do people play shit like this when Japan has already perfected action combat. They have everything from DMC to Dark Souls and yet homies will play shit like this…
My big triceratops friend, Witcher 3 was released almost 10 years ago, Dark Souls 3 which popularized the series came out a year after Witcher 3.
The combat in Witcher 3 never made sense to me. Canonically, Geralt is supposed to be able to tear through normal humans/elves/dwarves like tissue paper, but he struggles against even normal monsters, and is constantly getting hospitalized for months from monster-related injuries. And when he fights a magic user, he's just fricked, because they can use magic and he can't.
But then the game makes you take 20 hits to kill some random dick with a sword, monsters can't touch you, and when you pick a fight with that blonde witch bawd who wants to help Radovid to commit genocide, you actually just fight her when canonically she should be able to teleport you into space with a snap of her fingers.
In the books, Geralt loses most of his fights
But there's always some magical b***hes nearby to help him out. Dryads, sorceresses who want to frick him, Nenneke, Dryads again.
Levels are dumb. Thanks for the answers.
The difficulty of an enemy should correspond to what they are.
A normal dude, low level
A monster, mid tier
A dragon, high tier
Mages and shit should be hard to combat but easy to kill. They're ranged, not fricking tanks.
I feel like this logic jumps too many elements in how a world balance in strength can work.
As example, depending on how this simple "dude" is trained or if he wears armor, a group of them can be more dangerous than a monster or even a dragon.
FF7R is all about that in its first game because depending on the training or weapons that Shinra troops use they can be very fricking strong. There is even those guys from dirge of cerberus that frick yuffie and sonon up
the helicopter troopers are fricking pricks.
As you get closer and closer to the shinra building you start understanding how strong their arsenal is. At some point there are guys inside mini Gundams.
I actually just finished the game about 45 minutes ago I was getting out of hojos lab earlier in the thread. That frickass mech with barett and aerith sucked because I hadn't really optimized their materia at all.
That last boss before they run from shinra? That one can be really hard.
Yeah right before the bike section. It wasn't hard he was just being a bastard and my materia set up made it frustrating. Aerith didn't even have a healing materia slotted so barett was having to carry. At least he had like 8000 hp so he was just tanking everything.
It can be very annoying. Just like hell house a lot of people can get stuck there if they dont know what to do.
that fight took me almost 10 minutes because it kept being a b***h and running around on the walls. that being said it was one of the only fights that actually felt like you had to moderately think for a bit.
Yes. The game starts presenting more and more fights where you need to think or use specific skills to create openings to do damage. So people who just use skills randomly get walled very hard. As i said, the first one is Hell House.
That's also why hard more is a lot better because the game starts with the idea that you already know the combat, so it gets harder and more complex.
I did just unlock hard but I'm wondering how the frick you are supposed to sustain yourself through the game because it says there are no items, and also benches only heal hp? How the frick you sustain your mp like that? is it only items in battle? Theres no raise so if someone gets downed they're just down, yeah?
It's been a while since i've played hard mode but yeah there are specific materia layouts you create to keep a basic sustain until you reach a bench or something similar to heal yourself fully.
>FF7R is all about that in its first game because depending on the training or weapons that Shinra troops use they can be very fricking strong. There is even those guys from dirge of cerberus that frick yuffie and sonon up
Because the human-monster-dragon logic only works if you are in the most generic rpg setting ever, like medieval castles and shit.
In any rpg world where humans arent just bottom of the barrel in strength that logic doesnt work.
In FF7's world outside monsters who are literally infused with mako and became abominations, shinra is the strongest group by far.
>levels are dumb
>proceeds to use a leveling system, even freudian slipping and saying level by name in his supposedly "better" system
Magic better hit hard as shit in your system or mages are objectively not worth using.
The entire point of my "system" was that we need a better system than making every single enemy into a bullet sponge even when it doesn't make sense.
Like in the webm of Geralt hitting a normal enemy for several minutes simply because he's a skull/higher level.
The AI of the enemy should be where the challenge/difficulty is. He should parry your attacks, dodge your attacks. Why am I having to hit him 10,000 times to kill a normal human?
To add to this, bullet sponge enemy types like Monsters, Giants, Dragons, Gods, should still have weaknesses, weak points, or strategies to deal with them other than making them into solely a bullet sponge.
I shouldn't rely solely on hitting them until they're low enough health and a cutscene is prompted.
That feels bad.
One thing i like a lot is when a game has enemies with breakable parts. FF7R has that, choosing how to disable an enemy's weapon is always cool.
But i know it is probably too much work because imagine having to design 3-4 different animations and attack patterns in a single enemy if you consider which part of his body is destroyed.
Ff7r combat is too good to drop it. Maybe thats why they were talking about a ff6 remake, since ff10r can just get some graphics update alas CCR and call it a day
The truth is that FF16's combat could've worked, but the story they tried to tell doesnt match at all one that focuses in a single character. There is no reason to have only Clive playable if Jill, Cid or Joshua are next to Clive for 90% of the game.
So yeah if the intent is making a party focused game they should just keep improving and rehashing FF7R's system.
The fact they wouldnt need to start from 0 helps a lot.
I always wonder how much work goes in that behemoth. You can "disable" parts of his body in many ways.
Yep, although witcher 3 has a level scaling option in its settings so youre not forced to make the same path trough the main story every time you play
Enemies should have levels, types, and variations.
>Low Level Normal Dude Type #1 - 3 attacks, no elementals, one special attack
>Low Level Normal Dude Type #2 - 4 attacks, no elementals, one special attack
>Low Level Normal Dude Type #3 - 1 long attack, 2 fast attacks, no elementals, one special attack
Each of these could have levels and will have varitions
>High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack
>High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack, one special defense
>High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, one special attack, two special defense
>High Level Normal Dude #1 - Variation 1 - 3 attacks, one elementals, two special attack, two special defense
This would count as only three enemy types. There should be at last 50 types in the game.
Look, combat is cdpr's achilles heel, anon. It's unfair to ask them for good combat.
cyberpunk feels ok, despite it being
>enter room
>npcs all look at you
>shoot 98479874509 bullets into bullet sponge enemies
>have auto-heal chip keep you alive at all times
i don't know. it feels good, but it also kind sucks?
Webms like this kept me thinking this game wasn't worth my time then I finally played it and everything else was 10/10 so ultimately its a 9/10 for me. I can get good combat elsewhere.
yeah, ragebait webms on a Gankeridya hating board on an anonymous Gambian harpoon fishing forum aren't usually a very good source for judging whether a game is good or not
bet you love walking simulators
bet you love reading dialogue boxes and hearing anime grunts and watching hours of cutscene
Why is the implementation of human enemies so much worse in 3 than it was in 2?
I'm not going to argue that Witcher 3's combat is all that great, but this is clearly a disingenuous webm since the red skull above his head means he's a way higher level than Geralt, thus more tanky.
>Fight enemy you are underleveled for, as denoted by their name being in red and the red skull above their lifebar
>Act surprised when they take a lot of hits to kill
Hmm.
Witcher 3 has some cool quests but it is probably the most bootleg combat system i've ever seen in a rpg. They are lucky the other parts of the game can carry it so people dont talk about the combat.
I got the game with ps4 and good lord, I never expected the gameplay to be so bad. Sure the story, quests etc were great but game was too unplayable for me to continue. How the frick can they make such a lagged control when I have played the shittiest games with better controls
Yes, if you're a guy who values the combat too much you will not be able to go through that game. I can always ignore a bad combat if the world/characters/ narrative are good enough. But i dont blame people who drop that game.
After playing W2 and going to this game, the combat feels much better in comparison. But thats not much when compared to other games.
Literally 98% of western AAA games have bad gamepla
I wish i was lying and i dont know what happened. In the 90s some western devs still understood the fundamentals of game design. Now if its not a japanese game i already know either the camera is going to be garbage like nugow, the hit feedback will be trash, the animations will be janky during GAMEPLAY, or every enemy will be hp sponges
Its all literally a case of misplaced priorities. And journos cover up these games failings so the goyim subcattle have to pretend these games are actually good cuz ‘muh influencer/journo said so’
Western games were just atrocious with presentation and clarity
That's why jrpgs were the first contact people had with rpgs in the 90s and 2000s, they were the only ones who were worried about these things.
That's also why companies like Bioware and many other western rpg developers looked at FF7 and other jrpgs to see how to improve.
I will always laugh at the BG1 writer talking how after playing FF7 he said "man, we need to get better because our character suck ass compared to FF7's".
They still suck ass quite frankly
No western game has ever impressed me with its story. Prob because even at their ‘best’ they are just Z list hollywood movie tier storylines.
Even if i prefer jrpgs, i think the attitude they had was right because that's how every industry improves. You look at competition and try to step up your game.
Like, i will always prefer jrpg main stories but if there is a thing i believe they should copy and learn with devs from CDPR is how to do sidequests, as hamaguchi said it himself.
It is kinda insane how mass effect is just a jrpg.
Good job, you managed to corner a heavily overleveled archer, what does this prove?
it proves that the gameplay of this beloved homosexualry is fricking shit. And that's all you can do for 150 hours. No switching to a holy light class, no necromancy. Just this. It's fricking garbage. Normies pretend to like it because muh deep adult themes and pretty wind fx. Garbage.
>You can't become a necromancer in a game about a monster slayer
Are you genuinely moronic?
This looks just like 7R, what's the complaint?
that's Toriyama isn't it? He likes western games a lot, FF13-2's quest structure was inspired by Red Dead Redemption iirc. FF13 was also inspired by Call of Duty or something in the linear cinematic design. And stop repeating "slop" over and over gain
Hamaguchi
the gooch
Hope it lets me romance Yuffie and unshaved minge like the PS1 original.
>unshaved
anon you can peek like a full inch of mons pubis into her shorts and see nothing there
she just shaves the visible bit so that you don't ejaculate every time you look at her
As opposed to the previous final fantasy westernized slop?
According to Google, the original Dungeons and Dragons tabletop game utilizes turn based combat which has inspired both Western and Japanese RPGs. Square Enix still makes tradition JRPGs. Let them do something different every now and then. Besides, many other companies from South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and China are doing MMORPGs with action based combat.
JRPGs are just watered down CRPGs, the whole genre of RPGs have birthed so many other genres/inspired so many, that it's absolutely nuts.
Zelda was designed to simplify JRPGs, from which Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest had already simplified TTRPGs. Then there was Metroid which took Zelda and embraced platforming. There was Rogue which tried to be a simple RPG, and there was Ultima which tried to translate TTRPGs. It's such a storied evolution, it's just amazing.
The game has three directors but I instantly knew it was Motomu Toriyama. Why don't they specify in the title?
Coz if they said the directors name, gamers would just go "who?" coz they have no fricking clue who makes the shit they consume.
>but I instantly knew it was Motomu Toriyama.
they've both said they love witcher 3
https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2023/12/20/how-square-enix-is-filling-rebirths-world-with-sidequests
kek, my condolences, my still remaining, everlasting ff-morons.
im clean since 13-2. Its a better world.
>[Sad News]
Stop trying to force this meme
You've been doing it on multiple boards for a week now
It's a 2ch thing.
it's a context cue marker for GPT bots. They see that and they output appropriate response contexts for the thread
Not fooling anyone
NTA but how new are you?
see
>https://krsw.5ch.net/ghard/
OP is still a homosexual though, as witcher 3 is one of the wrpg games that nips really like
it owns actually
i already wasn't going to play it, just like i didn't play ff16, because of it not actually being an ff7 remake. but this just reassures me that i'm correct not to.
I like Witcher 3 a lot and I'm not going to play this garbage.
Why do the japs keep looking at the fricking trash in the west for inspiration? they need to fricking stop.
https://streamable.com/98c8gx
video removed for violating terms of service, anon
reupload it somewhere else anon
Catbox won't accept it
Is this shit really that rough to be deleted/blocked this fast?
No matter what, find a solution anon, you peeked my interest so you need to deliver now, it's your duty.
Here is the link to the video
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6350049&tags=aerith_gainsborough+sleeping+sex
thank you anon
No problem anon
>the witcher 3, his favorite rpg
>witcher 3
>rpg
That explains everything lol
Witcher 3 is 100x more of an RPG than every JRPG in existence
Do you not know what an RPG is?
Doomposters and larpers are moronic. They think movies were always pozzed, when the 80s were full of fantasy movies that nips loved. Hell ff is also full of different mythologies
Resident Evil was inspired by Romero, Wesker was Terminator, Ada and Leon? They are straight copied from Twin Peaks, where a police guy was a simp of an asian spy wearing red dress. There is even a Laura Palmer in re2
Clock Tower? Literally a rip off of one movie, surprised they were never sued for stealing Jennifer Conelly and the exact same villain
Metal gear had fricking american actors portraits
FF was never a trend king, ff7 simply was appealing enough worldwide just like dragon ball, same with RE, who just copied Alone in the Dark but RE was the most appealing one
Making a jrpg alas ff is expensive, its why most jrpgs are more comfortable in the anime, retro or visual novel zone. At most Legend of Dragoon tried but that was just a coincidence and the unluckiest timing.
And The witcher still preserves some of that classic fantasy tone before the pozzing virus.
>Barret is Mr. T
>Tifa is Jennifer Conelly
People are not ready for this conversation yet
I always suspected Amano stole Jareth's design for Matheus
Bros.....he looks like Yoshida.....
Weebs are delusional morons. But
>the witcher still preserves some of that classic fantasy tone before the pozzing virus.
Huh? When? If you're talking about the TV show?
you're a moron, he's talking about how rpg's even 9 years ago were not full of modern politics/homosexualry and woke shit, compare Witcher 3 and BG3 in term of writing, jokes and characters
Modern rpg's overall writing is fricking garbage
I was talking about the books, and Witcher 3 still preserved some of that old charm
Netflix show is fricking cancer though
Exactly. And yet bg3 managed to survive thanks to having a few recognizable good looking characters.
Starfield directly went full Poo edition to the point not even mods want to bother.
My point is also how nips actually always looking for inspiration in western products, but that was because western stories used to be beautiful, with great designs.
Now everything is black from walmarts.
For the love of god, I like FF7 and FF7R and much of the franchise because you have full control of a party of characters. Don't fricking attempt another FF16.
You only control one character in FF13.
I would rewrite the Witcher 3 copy pasta but the time ghosts won't let me.
This would be a good thing anon. Also botw has basically forced all nips to make their games open world, if the next DQ doesn't rip off of botw I'll be surprised.
And nuzelda copied ubisoft
And?
you moronic fricking Black person. it's been loke that since FFXIII. fans' naivete is the actual problem, i would say -- from this kind of unknowingness to the morons who have stacks subs on top of subs and on top of more subscriptions. both are bad.
>FINAL FANTASY 7 """""REMAKE""""""
>Inspired by the Witcher 3
I mean Part 1 was an absoltuely shitty "le epic cinematic walking" slog after the airbuster fight and the sidequests became shit too so it had no hope but good fricking god how can anyone say with a stright face a whole different game is the "inspiration" for a remake?
>Ganker hates Witcher 3 now
I can't keep up with you contrarian homosexuals anymore.
Ganker has never been particularly fond of the Witcher 3.
Ganker was drooling over W3 when it came out, also games like stalker, New Vegas, morrowind and other good games were extremely liked on Ganker. Then an influx of contrarian zoomies, pajeets, and /misc/tards and redditors with no taste in good games started flooding Ganker and spamming hate treads just to get contrarian points and some morons actualli bit on the bait.
Kek its just jealous tendies dude
Or maybe the game's just overrated? The combat's awful and it being open world makes it insanely tedious to get anywhere since you spend most of your time traveling. I've never even managed to finish it once it bored me so much.
You were underaged when it came out
This board is full of beaner coomers who are just colossal weebs, if you ask them to explain why they'll usually spout out some buzzwords followed shortly by revealing they're just coomers with yellow fever
Cultural phenomenon that's not nintendo drive those manchildren pedos crazy, to the point you can see some of those games threads deleted for no reason
I fricking wish jRPGs were like W3. I almost dropped Persona 5 that's how boring and cringe it was in comparison.
Witcher 3 has hot women you can frick. We can only hope that Rebirth puts in sex scenes with the women
>the baseline they're aiming for is a western interactive TV show aimed at women
I didn't think it was possible but square are getting even worse.
Yoshitpissisters….
keep on seething weeb
Can they just fricking fire Yoshida already?
>yoshi-p out of nowhere
mindraped
Final Fantasy has been westernized flop for a while now, if you didn't notice. It lost its soul around the 00's, when SE catered to the western sheep. And not just for FF.
>Kitase wanted to remove Barret vs Dyne
How does this man still have a job
No one else wants it.
Toriyana doesn’t like JRPGs, makes sense I guess. 3rd Birthday, Front Mission Evolved, XIII, XIII-2, LRFFXIII, Remake, Rebirth.
Dude just developed garbage since always.
Im in the middle of playing remake right now. I just got out of hojos lab. I'm having a lot of fun but I wish there was more blue materia to really customize stuff.
I liked ff16, though I wish there was more depth to its combat.
I'm planning to play through crisis core after i finish remake.
My favorite final fantasy is 5.
I'm not touching 14 again until dawntrail or a significant content update, or its sub being merged with 11.
I'm really looking forward to rebirth.
I wonder if they will remake Dirge of Cerberus between rebirth and whatever the third game is.
I really like final fantasy
Witcher 3 with a better combat system sounds great to me
This. They keep updating W3 graphics, but goddamn has the combat system aged terribly. Can’t wait to juggle multiple characters on the fly in an open world
Btw, he is also the Director of Ever Crisis. Dude is reverse Midas.
I actually don't understand how people look forward to this shit. It's going to be more stupid fanfiction nonsense and I kinda can't fathom that people pay for this trash when all it does is encourage SE (an already lazy company) to do nothing but rehash old nostalgic memories.
You can't pay for this shit AND be surprised that gaming is getting worse at the same time.
>fanfiction
Do you even know what this word means you insufferable doomer
People are, in general, very very stupid. Those who buy remakes are the bottom percentage of those people. As long as they get to jerk their sad wieners at Aerith they'll gladly shit out 70 bucks.
Sub-human does not begin to cover it.
What video games do you like to play anon?
When you try this, does anyone ever actually take this bait or do you just declare victory in your head and then march of to consume more trash?
>it's "bait" to ask someone what games they like
>anon can't answer the question because he either doesn't actually play video games, or he's too busy spending all his time shitting on other people playing video games he's decided they aren't allowed to like
Name one game. You wont.
I declare victory out loud when you're incapable of listing a single game because you're too self conscious to do so without exposing yourself to potential ridicule while you sit on your homosexual ivory tower and lambast everyone you've deemed inferior.
Name a game you coward.
Coming across as a bit defensive here Anon. How about you just pretend you won your little flamewar in your head and maybe the dopamin kick can put off you trooning out?
What games I like has nothing to do with this conversation, and your pathetic begging won't change that
>I still haven't named a video game, and I never will because I don't actually play them, but you're also a troony!!!!!
You lose. Sorry! Play again sometime.
How the frick does your own personal taste in video games have nothing to do with a conversation about objective quality of video games you dumbfrick? Answer the question.
NTA but you are a coward
The only thing I don't like about the remake is how lazy and contrived the time jannies as a concept are. Like why the frick did time even change in the first place? What was the catalyst for things being different this time that didn't happen in the original game. Also why were the time jannies even needed? What did they add to the story that simply having the timeline be different alone couldn't have also solved.
>What was the catalyst for things being different this time that didn't happen in the original game
Sephiroth not being the actual Sephiroth and instead being a Sephiroth who has lived through the events of ff7 hundreds, if not thousands of times and is trying to actively change fate because of it.
>What did they add to the story that simply having the timeline be different alone couldn't have also solved.
Demonstrating that fate can be changed through enough willpower and giving a canonical reason for everything to go off the rails of pre established story.
If that is the case then they needed to have set up that premise better. They simultaniously showed Sephiroth way too much and also didn't give him any context. Now the setting of FF7 constantly time looping and with fate seemingly being unchangeable could be interesting but it's awfully set up in the first game. Who knows maybe I'll warm up to them in the 2nd game with more context but as of now time jannies are my least favourite part of the remake.
>If that is the case then they needed to have set up that premise better.
I actually 100% agree with you on this. Ideally Rebirth will explain it more considering the events of the time jannies dying also produced a parallel timeline where zach does not die at the end of crisis core and there are now two parallel timelines going together in rebirth.
To me it seemed like a case of SE wanting to have their cake and eat it too having both the understanding of players who played the original and also having the same sense of mystery that the original had too so they just end up underexplaining everything for the sake of being mysterious.
The problem with the new stuff is it's all set up that hasn't had chance to be paid off yet. Obviously it's going to be worse without having the completed puzzle.
It's kind of fricked up you outright need to have played through all of original ff7 to even remotely understand what's happening in the background of remake.
It's pretty sad that the actual remake parts of FF7R are the only good parts and the rest is shit tier, bloated with filler, Compilation garbage.
Some of the best parts of 7 remake were the additional characterization and world building, which were early chapters that amounted to literally 3 static screens of walking in the original game. You are actually delusional.
>Some of the best parts of 7 remake were the additional characterization and world building, which were early chapters that amounted to literally 3 static screens of walking in the original game.
Like I said, the things you'd expect from an actual remake were good.
The parts that were all about wanking the shitty sequels nobody cared about and changing the original plot to be about something completely unrelated were the bad parts.
It's a remake, not a remaster. I'm perfectly fine with the game going in a direction that isn't laid out in front of me and immediately ruins all potential for surprise because it came out over 25 years ago.
>. I'm perfectly fine with the game going in a direction that isn't laid out in front of me and immediately ruins all potential for surprise because it came out over 25 years ago.
Then it's not a remake, it's a different game entirely riding the corpse of an old game for brand recognition. Or in this case, just yet another shitty compilation sequel.
Also, the "new direction" for the plot is objectively complete dogshit and only morons could possibly enjoy it.
Learn what the word remake means. Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion instantly makes your opinion worthless.
>Learn what the word remake means.
I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual.
>Also using "objective" when expressing an opinion
I wasn't expressing an opinion.
A remaster is the original game with new assets.
A remake is a full remake of the game from the ground up.
If it's not the same game, it's not a remake. If it's another shit sequel nobody wanted, it's not a remake. It's a sequel.
Ys: The Oath in Felghana differs nearly as much from Ys III as FF7R does from the first game in its series.
The Oath in Felghana is a remake, and FF7R is not.
>I'll do it as soon as you stop being a pedantic homosexual.
Irony
>UHHH ackshully it's a remake, because they re-made a new game!
Shut the frick up Black person
Don't care, stupid homosexual.
>it's a sequel even though its the same story but playing out in a different way because fate has been defied
Well that's not how things work at all but to humor you, sure. It's a sequel. Now what?
Jesus Christ you are a pretentious twat.
>i wasn't expressing an opinion
yes you were shitheel stop backpedalling it's unbecoming of someone who so aggressively wants to be seen.
>yes you were shitheel
Nope, I wasn't.
The plot is objectivley fricking moronic. You are a moron if you enjoyed it.
There are no opinions in my posts
>Now what?
Now, like I said originally, the game is another shitty compilation spinoff.
You argue like a fricking 12 year old. Grow up.
How is doing nothing to a game but improving its visuals in any way more effort or more commendable than actually remaking a game, adding dialogue, depth, additional story and battle systems? In the current industry both would be sold for the exact same price, so what you're saying is you would buy a game that came out over 25 years ago that is exactly the fricking same in every single regard except it's GRAFIX, and you would pay full price for that?
You have the gall to admit you would allow yourself to be fleeced that easily while mocking others for playing something that is actually new?
see
you disingenuous moron.
>it's not remade in the specific way I want it to be remade therefor bad
That's not an argument.
No, it's not a remake if it's a fricking sequel and not a remake at all.
If there is literally nothing that's the same about it except the setting, then it's not a fricking remake. It's a fricking spinoff or a sequel. In this case, it's the latter.
It's Dirge of Cerberus in the modern era except the modern person has such immensely shit taste in videogames that they're actually enjoying it this time around and asking for more of this slop. Although FF7R at least had decent combat unlike DoC.
>it's dirge of cerberus
Your moronic ass is just throwing out buzzwords now. My god get a fricking hobby or actually go play a videogame. This is pathetic reaching.
>Name of another compilation game is a buzzword
Absolutely mindbroken holy frick
Considering "compliation game" is some random fricking term you've coined that nobody else uses and you're trying to turn into a buzzword in a desperate bid for validation of your opinion, no. Pretty sure you're the one who is mindbroken. I'm gonna go back to playing 7 remake now continue pissing yourself in this thread losing arguments with every anon who makes the pointless decision to rightfully call you a moron.
>No, it's not a remake if it's a fricking sequel and not a remake at all.
Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive
>If there is literally nothing that's the same about it except the setting, then it's not a fricking remake. It's a fricking spinoff or a sequel. In this case, it's the latter.
Well good thing none of this actual nonsense applies to the FF7 remake.
It's Dirge of Cerberus in the modern era except the modern person has such immensely shit taste in videogames that they're actually enjoying it this time around and asking for more of this slop. Although FF7R at least had decent combat unlike DoC.
At this point I can only assume that you're actually schizophrenic cause you aren't even making sense anymore.
>Those 2 aren't mutually exclusive
Yes, they are.
If your game is a sequel, it's not a remake, full stop. If it takes place chronologically after the original and relies on the events of the original having played out for its plot to work, and requires you to have played the original to fully understand its plot, it's not a remake, it's a fricking sequel.
>At this point I can only assume that you're actually schizophrenic cause you aren't even making sense anymore.
What about what I said makes no sense, are you ESL?
Dirge of Cerberus was correctly mocked and shit on by everyone when it came out.
FF7R comes out and does the exact same thing, and now it's praised by a bunch of pathetic morons so far up Square-Enix's ass that they forgot what FF7 even was, assuming any of them actually played it at all.
Why was dirge of cerberus mocked anon.
Want to tell the class?
Because it was a garbage sequel trying to make money off the back of a better game.
Now was I talking about FF7R, or Dirge of Cerberus? Trick question, it was both. The only difference is one was successful.
dirge of cerberus was mocked for shitty controls, bad graphics, and an edgy story. Not because it was a "sequel". people were fricking foaming at the mouth for MORE final fantasy 7 before dirge released.
What the frick is this revisionist history you actual scum felching troglodyte?
>dirge of cerberus was mocked for shitty controls, bad graphics, and an edgy story
Well, FF7R has two of those if you replace edgy with pants-on-head moronic, and the controls in Dirge were actually pretty good if you used a KB/M, so I don't see what your point is.
> people were fricking foaming at the mouth for MORE final fantasy 7 before dirge released.
Frick no they weren't, Dirge was one of the last of the Compilation titles to release and they specifically stopped doing those because Dirge flopped so hard. People's fatigue with shitty FF7 sequels was rapidly increasing when Dirge came out and Dirge is what killed what little hype people had after the slew of shitty cell phone games and the trash fire that was Advent Children. Crisis Core did terribly financially because of people being completely done with the whole compilation by that point. SE correctly canceled the whole project after that and waited a decade to pick it back up because they knew moronic zoomers who've never heard of the compilation or played the original would eat it up, and lo and behold, they did.
Crisis Core did terribly financially because it was on the fricking PSP you dipshit.
Dirge flopped because it played like shit, and that was enough for it to fail because back then game magazines actually reviewed things still and it meant something. Vincent alone wasn't enough to sell the game.
>7 remake has two of these things if you completely change what one of them is
Wow very impressive anon, I guess you'de be a heterosexual if you stopped sucking so much wiener too!
>Crisis Core did terribly financially because it was on the fricking PSP you dipshit.
Didn't stop Dissidia from selling gangbusters.
>Dirge flopped because it played like shit
Crisis Core also played like shit and people love it.
>>7 remake has two of these things if you completely change what one of them is
There's not much difference between having an edgy plot and having a fricking moronic plot.
Like I said before, the DoC shit they shoved into the remake feels right at home there.
Probably because the game is a complete joke, aesthetically, tonally, an thematically.
If you play FF7R for any reason other than gameplay, you have brain damage.
>it's moronic because i say so even though i've yet to even demonstrate I understand what the plot actually is
It's moronic time loop bullshit.
There has never been a good sequel that shoved time travel/multiverse bullshit into the plot out of nowhere. FF7R did not break that streak.
Stranger of Paradise is laughing at you.
Multiversal travel and time travel are inherent themes to the entire series what the frick are you talking about?
So what part of FF7's plot had time travel in it?
Stranger of Paradise gets away with it because it's actually a good fricking game and not just "eh, the combat's pretty good I guess"
>There has never been a good sequel that shoved time travel/multiverse bullshit into the plot out of nowhere
>except stranger of paradise
lol
Stranger of Paradise is not a good sequel to FF1.
Granted, a good sequel to FF1 would be a boring game.
Stranger of Paradise also does not have a good plot. It has excellent fricking characters that carry it instead.
FF7R doesn't have that. It has "the OG FF7 crew except mildly flanderized and all their good moments are ruined by the presence of harry potter monsters."
what the frick are you talking about the stairs scene in 7r and all of his speeches to the rest of the avalanche crew did more for barrets character than the entirety of midgar in the original game.
the time jannies show up a grand total of like 4 times across 15 chapters of the game. they are barely present until the actual finale.
the only things stranger of paradise has going for it is jack as a character and the combat being fun. it has the exact same things going for it that 7 remake does. the only difference is that one has multiplayer.
dont people love crisis core because the story is moronic... kind of like how ff7 remake is moronic?
Me? gongaga
If anyone hasn't played FF7 it'd be you.
>it's a fricking sequel and not a remake
quit.being.pedantic.fool.
It's not disingenuous you moron you are implying a significant amount of people want a game from 25 years ago remade only in regards to graphics and maybe voice acting and that would be sufficient for you to buy it. Whereas 7 remake goes above that, and does more things, but is somehow slop by your definition.
>It's not disingenuous you moron you are implying a significant amount of people want a game from 25 years ago remade only in regards to graphics
see
you disingenuous moron.
hey guess what a small subplot being introduced to the game doesn't change the fact it's still final fantasy 7. the only difference is that it might play out a bit differently now. If you're actually griping over this one change triggering your autism so much that it can no longer be called final fantasy 7, that's a you problem.
Unfortunately for you, the game is fun, sold well, and will continue to sell well with it's sequels. It's not going away, there is nothing you can do to stop rebirth and the final game in the trilogy from releasing. they're solid remakes. Cry about it sweaty.
>a small subplot
moron.
Also, nice backpedaling.
>Unfortunately for you, the game is fun, sold well, and will continue to sell well with it's sequels.
Ah yes, the same argument Bethesda uses for "why Starfield is good, actually."
Starfield isn't fun. 7 remake is. die mad you balding fatass.
>Starfield isn't fun.
It sold a billion copies and some moronic Black folk on the internet like it, so according to you it's fun.
Sorry, but it's your argument, not mine.
>FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTEGRADE
>ALL REVIEWS "VERY POSITIVE" (17,426)
>RECENT REVIEWS "VERY PSITIVE" (916)
>STARFIELD
>ALL REVIEWS "MIXED" (88,916)
>RECENT REVIEWS "MOSTLY NEGATIVE" (7,073)
You hate to see it try again next time!
Oh, suddenly it's about steam reviews now?
Nice backpedaling, again.
FFXV has good steam reviews too. So does XIII.
I think when a game is very positive and a vast majority of people enjoyed it, and you're trying to compare it to a game that is so desperate to defend its existence they start using ai to respond to steam forum posts you have lost the plot.
>I think when a game is very positive and a vast majority of people enjoyed it
What a surprise that a vast number of people who didn't play the original game enjoyed the game, because they didn't care about it shitting on the original.
>it's shitting on the original BECAUSE I SAY IT IS
See a therapist! It's done nothing but respect the original because you have to have fricking played the original to even understand the plot occurring in the background. How can you possibly respect the legacy of a game any more than making playing it a literal requirement to understand anything?
It's disrespectful because Square Enix continues to disingenuously label it a remake, to lure people into playing it instead of the original.
Like you said, it relies on the original because it's derivative garbage created by hacks with no talent left in their dementia-riddled minds. Despite this, they falsely marketed it as "the remake everyone's been hyping up for years and years" and then it's just another compilation sequel, and not actually "the remake everyone's been hyping up for years and years." But they knew that, and never intended it to be a remake. They just knew marketing it as "another Compilation sequel" would mean that zoomers wouldn't rush to buy it in droves to experience FF7 for the first time. It would be like marketing Half Life Alyx as Half Life 3 and calling it that, only for it to come out as some bizarre experimental VR spinoff title.
Anyway I'll see you when Reunion drops and it's as shit as KH3. I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics you'll be using then?
go play the phone remaster then. it's literally what you're asking for so frick off to it and stop b***hing.
>go play the phone remaster then
see
you disingenuous moron.
continously quoting your own nonsense posts because nobody else is giving them (you) is pretty sad. if they actually said anything of value someone besides you would be replying to them.
Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters instead of b***hing like a petulant little homosexual that a remaster doesn't do enough differently and the remake does too much.
You goldilocks homosexual. Nobody is making you eat the porridge.
>Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters
Why would I do that? I want a remake, not a remaster.
>n-no you want a remaster
Sorry, not listening to the moron that verbatim said that he thinks these two games are literally the same exact game with no changes whatsoever besides graphics.
your only potentially valid complaint about 7r is the story.
which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity even if the time jannies plot was not present.
You exist to b***h. You don't play video games. You whine about them on the internet because you're old and you don't enjoy playing things anymore. You want to sit there and screech old good new bad and wonder why nobody takes anything you say seriously.
>your only potentially valid complaint about 7r is the story.
Nah, I have other complaints, like the game being full of farmed out chink assets or just plain ugly shit like low res backgrounds, some of the new characters being obnoxious and pointless, the abundance of filler (I understand that there's going to be some but there should have been more optional content and less filler to ruin the pacing of the original story), etc., but those complaints always get ignored because nobody has strawman arguments to throw at them. Or they just outright agree with them, I haven't really seen anyone defending the soulless asset farm shit, to the zoomers' credit.
>which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity
Again, not going to humor the moron that claims Ys III is 100% identical to OiF.
The second you posted anything about Ys I knew this wasn't going to be a discussion anyway. You can't have a discussion with people who have such terminal autism they actually play that series. Even the slightest change to a pixel would give a Ystard an aneurysm.
That's funny, considering Felghana makes far more substantial changes to the original plot than FF7R does to FF7's plot. To say nothing of Celceta, which makes even more changes.
Oh, it seems like you're the one who doesn't play videogames now though. Must have been projecting in that last post, I take it.
I never claimed to play Ys. This isn't a Ys thread.
It's a mildly popular and influential series, surely someone who "totally plays videogames" would at least know enough to know how substantial its remakes are, right?
Surely you wouldn't be complaining about a fanbase who lauds the remakes as being far superior to the original games as being a fanbase who "has an aneurysm" when something is changed.
I complain about a fanbase that is well known for its autism, yeah. I don't need to know anything about the games to call its fanbase autistic. Thats not a criticism of the games themselves.
>yeah I made shit up that is literally the opposite of the truth. Also, I am moronic and think a 3D isometric action platformer is the same game as Zelda 2
Oh okay, so everything you say is made up and you don't play videogames.
I accept your concession. Have a good night, self-professed moron.
I haven't made a single statement about any Ys game so you pulled the second half of your funny greentext directly from your festering butthole but good try. it must be difficult being so brain damaged.
>I haven't made a single statement about any Ys game
You literally just said that the fans love the remakes because they're identical to the originals.
You also claimed that when I compared FF7R to OiF, that I was saying I wanted the game to be "identical except for graphics."
These statements mean you are stating that OiF is identical to Ys III. This is, of course, incredibly fricking moronic. But of course, you wouldn't know any of that, because you don't play videogames at all.
>You literally just said that the fans love the remakes because they're identical to the originals.
I never said this. You are making this up.
>You also claimed that when I compared FF7R to OiF, that I was saying I wanted the game to be "identical except for graphics."
I never said this either. You are making this up too
>These statements mean you are stating that OiF is identical to Ys III. This is, of course, incredibly fricking moronic. But of course, you wouldn't know any of that, because you don't play videogames at all.
I don't know anything about Ys, and I'll freely admit that because I have no interest in the franchise and I'm not a self conscious cuck who has to lie about game experience to seem more genuine. You brought up Ys for no reason at all thinking everyone would know anything about it because you're autistic.
I don't care about Ys. I don't care how Ys handles remaking/remastering their games. It has no bearing on Final Fantasy 7. If you like how they remake/remaster their games, then go play those games, moron.
>I never said this.
>I never said this either. You are making this up too
> Even the slightest change to a pixel would give a Ystard an aneurysm.
>which you were going to b***h about anyway for daring to be different in any capacity even if the time jannies plot was not present.
>Again, go play the phone 1:1 remasters instead of b***hing like a petulant little homosexual that a remaster doesn't do enough differently and the remake does too much.
>go play the phone remaster then. it's literally what you're asking for so frick off to it and stop b***hing.
And these are just the ones that are part of this specific reply chain. You've posted it other times, but those are parts of other reply chains, so you'll pull a "oh, that totally wasn't me teehee~" if I post them. Just look for all the replys with "see <post#>" I've had to make towards you because you, for some inexplicable reason, chose to keep falling back on your strawman about wanting a remaster despite me demonstrably proving otherwise repeatedly.
>I don't know anything about Ys
>>but I decided to make some shit up. Now dude trust me I'm totally not disingenuous. Despite just saying that I am completely disingenuous.
Okay, moron.
> I'm not a self conscious cuck who has to lie about game experience to seem more genuine
And yet, you are doing just that.
>You brought up Ys for no reason at all thinking everyone would know anything about it because you're autistic.
I brought it up because a quick google lets you verify that Ys III and Oath in Felghana are completely different games.
Then when your moronic ass was too lazy to swipe left on your phone to another tab to google it yourself, I even posted a screenshot showing the difference. Yet you still continued with your nonsensical strawman.
You even gave up on it at one point, but for some reason, went right back to it. Just fricking stop dude, you look like a fricking homosexual.
it's hilarious when you realize the time jannys are these homosexual anons b***hing about story changes.
Most people would have been fine with 7R's graphics and battle changes being applied to an actual remake of the game.
There's absolutely zero added depth in the new narrative content, it's in fact so bad that doing less with the title would have been more commendable
>zero added depth in the new narrative content
The stairs scene alone in shinra hq was more enjoyable than the entirety of midgar in the original game.
Learn the difference between a remaster and a remake.
A remaster takes the original game and remasters its graphics/controls/etc. A remake REMAKES the game. It's going to be DIFFERENT. It's inherent to the definition of REMAKE.
A remaster is literally just a texture upgrade or asset port
A remake should only be different via addition, not replacement, of prior content, typically only adding features that are considered modern standards at the time of release, like voice acting, cutscene skipping, journal entries, etc
FF7R is a pseudo sequel reimagining of the game, the same way Rebuild of Evangelion is not a remake of the series it takes it's name from
>Then it's not a remake, it's a different game entirely riding the corpse of an old game for brand recognition.
That is exactly what a remake is, at least in Current Year.
>Also, the "new direction" for the plot is objectively complete dogshit and only morons could possibly enjoy it.
>objectively
Do you even know what the "new" direction is? Or did you watch a bunch of youtubers b***h about it?
The Last Jedi made a lot of insecure midwits and nerd-hating c**ts absolutely insufferable sophists, and cranked their contrarian dials up to 11.
>snar wars!
literally go play ever crisis
Yeesh. Consider THAT nerve struck.
>bring up irrelevant disney slop
>get called irrelevant disney slop
>nerve struck!!
lobotomite
>Disney
>irrelevant to Nomura of all fricking people
Nomura has never touched star wars. It's irrelevant.
>Nomura has never touched star wars
Wow, was the KH4 teaser REALLY so long ago that you forgot it?
where was star wars present in that?
I'm not gonna be the one paying for it ultimately, and this crazy dumb shit of a trainwreck no one asked for but the "I DON'T WANT IT TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME" shitposters is going to be glorious to behold.
There's so many worse games to use as inspiration. My main concern with this game is how they're going to work around the stupid plot changes introduced in the first part.
What do you mean work around? The whole point of 7 remake was to say "this story is off the rails and anything from here on is not going to be comparable to the original game". There will be similar plot beats, and characters but it's clearly going down differently. The end goal is still to beat sephiroth.
Yeah, could have worded that better. It's just really playing with fire how I see it.
I think I would have been more annoyed if they did something as low effort as a 1:1 conversion of the original story of 7 to just better graphics. The amount of storytelling and depth they can give to characters sorely in need of it like barret with the way they have stretched everything out has made me appreciate the characters more. And it leaves you guessing a little as to where this shit is going so you're actually moderately invested instead of "well this is ff7 again". Isn't the mobile game ever crisis or whatever its called basically a direct remaster of ff7 anyway?
>"Mhmm....giant slash marks all over the victim....a Sahaginᵀᴹ gotta be"
Maybe read the article idiot
Can't wait to follow red trails for 50 hours
Its funny cuz there actually is a follow the smell trail quest in Rebirth.
What would you guys think in 3 years when japanese game developers start saying they were inspired by bg3
One of the best things about Final Fantasy games is that they are not overly Japanese.
That's why I instadelete any Final Fantasy game after installing them.
Waste of global bandwidth and SSD space.
Why are they so utterly determined (for decades now) to make Final Fantasy NOT Final Fantasy? Why are people who hate Final Fanfasy in charge of Final Fantasy?
Please tell me in your own words what Final Fantasy "is".
It's not The Witcher 3 or GTA or Game of Thrones.
You just said what it isn't. Not what it is.
Answer the question properly or don't bother replying please.
Final Fantasy is a lot of things that aren't easily summarized in the amount of words I'm prepared to devote to you. I feel you're trying to lead into a 'Final Fantasy changes somewhat between games, so it's defined by change and any change is justified' argument, which I've never agreed with.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'll stick to my original point about what FF isn't, and how it's baffling that the people in charge of it seem to want it to be anything other than Final Fantasy. And that is the answer you're getting.
frickin asians asiatics why to they always try and copy whytes?
It's gonna be a good game, probably GOTY. I can tell just from the still image used in the article that it has SOUL.
Great. Cause in witcher you can bang chicks. If they let me bang Aerirh i would be happy
Just bought my PS5 for remake part deux
Purists seething
You should have a family by now, get off this board lmao
funny enough i dont think dirge ever got as ridiculous as 7r-1 gets
No it didn't, it just had ridiculously bad character designs and felt like fanfiction for how out of place it was in FF7's world.
It's pretty telling that the Dirge of Cerberus shit is right at home in the remake and isn't out of place at all anymore.
>inspired by slav kino instead of japslop
based tbh weeb gays won't get it.
>FF16 is is westernized slop
>Sea of Stars is westernized slop
>FF7 R is going to ber westernized slop
Bros, I just want to feel the pure JRPG kino of FF10 again.
>sea of stars
how can you even mention that troony indie trash in the same post as mainline ff
>selling gangbusters
You are over 35 with no gf. Why are you here
There’s no reason to play Final Fantasy after X or XII if you want JRPG.
MMOs are not JRPG. XV is not JRPG at all.
XVI is not even RPG.
I hate how edgy and cool Cloud is in VIIR and every Compilation material ever.
Dude was a moronic dork in the original game. Sure, he was cold at first at the beginning of Midgar, but that was usually because Barret pressed him.
Around Honey Bee and Shinra Building he had already warmed with the rest of the cast.
Stop complaining about it not being a 1:1 remaster of the game, it's different and that's automatically a good thing and it being the same as the game it's remaking in any way would be bad.
You’re moronic and I’m not even the same person you were arguing with. Remake is fine.
If it's fine why are you complaining? Cloud is great in the remake because he's different, it's a remake, not a remaster, so everything has to be different than the original. If you want the original just go play the phone game.
You’re moronic and never played a Final Fantasy game.
You're 35 years old and you don't even play videogames, you're just looking for an excuse to complain about them.
He does actively warm up at honey bee and shinra. The entire stretch on the way to wall market is him slowly getting used to being around aerith to the point he finally gives her a high five at the end of the collapsed highway. And he actually willingly dances.
He is progressing at the exact same pace he would in the original game, it's just stretched out.
You didn't even play the remake, did you? There is dialogue from tifa that he is trying to hard to be cool in one of the sections you play as her.
bro he is a fricking dork in 7r have you even listened to half the shit he says
7R Cloud is the goofiest homie what are you talking about? How the frick can you see the images of this man riding a Segway and think they're trying to make him cool.
>Witcher 3
>RPG
Nani?
Witcher 3 is the most celebrated RPG of all time, have you been living under a rock?
>it's not an rpg because you don't make your own character!
Neither are troonyfantasy games then
This is why you should never argue with someone who thinks their opinions are objective. Can't go a single post without begging the question.
I never said my opinions are objective.
If you think time jannies aren't immensely moronic, you have brain damage. That's a fact, not an opinion.
You have actual autism. You are making a subjective statement, trying to portray it as an objective fact, and when people rightfully tell you that you are spouting an opinion as fact you deny it like an autist. If you don't like the game that's fine. You are free to your opinion. Stop being a relentless homosexual and trying to stealth pass your homosexual opinion as fact.
Sorry, but I really don't care what someone thinks who has brain damage (read: thinks time jannies aren't fricking stupid)
You don't even know my personal opinion. I think they are silly and dumb. But that's a subjective opinion. It's not fact. I'm not a narcissist who thinks their thoughts and opinions are the only ones allowed to exist, like you've so eloquently demonstrated for everyone in the thread. Every single one of your posts could have added a "to me" at the end of the post and you could have had an actual discussion about things. But because you have horrific narcissism and are determined to be "CORRECT" you spew that its objective and you act like a homosexualy b***h to everyone. And you wonder why barely anyone, (if anyone actually is and it's not just you samegayging), is actually agreeing with you in this thread instead of calling you a moron.
Learn to have an actual conversation with someone I am begging you.
>You don't even know my personal opinion.
You're claiming the time jannies being stupid is not factual, so I know your personal opinion is that they're not stupid. Otherwise you wouldn't disagree with the fact that they're stupid.
See, that was easy.
>Every single one of your posts could have added a "to me" at the end of the post and you could have had an actual discussion about things
I doubt it considering some moron is still going on with the remaster strawman an hour later.
Except I just said I think they're silly and kind of dumb.
So no, you don't know my personal opinion you're just terminally assravaged someone is calling you out for trying to pass subjective opinion as objective fact.
You can have as strong of an opinion as you like but an opinion is an opinion. it's not a fact. Provide peer reviewed documentation and an actual paper if you want something to be a fact. Otherwise get the frick out.
>Except I just said I think they're silly and kind of dumb.
Great, then you have no issue with my posts since the only statement I made that was objective was that the time jannies are fricking stupid and you'd have to have brain damage to enjoy a plot about them. Which is a fact.
>thing is goofy
>YOU MUST HATE THE ENTIRE PLOT BECAUSE THING IS GOOFY
you're actually brain damaged wow
No you syphilitic wiener sucking inbred Black personhomosexual cum felching giga twat. My issue with your posts is you have been (and are continuing to) propagate your opinion as a fact. It's not a fricking fact. You overestimate your own importance and demonstrate textbook narcissism every time you try to pass what you think as objectively true and fact, just because it is what you think.
Media is inherently subjective. It's fricking media. It's not physics. It's not math. It's not chemicals.
Either you simply don't understand what "fact" means, or you are so blinded by the gross incandescence of your own ego you don't realize how fricking obnoxious you are.
The only thing I stated was fact was the factual parts of my post. Those being that A) the game is a sequel, not a remake and B) time jannies are fricking stupid.
You can cope and sputter all you want, those two things are still objectively correct, and I've still never passed my opinion off as fact.
it is your opinion that the time jannies are stupid thats subjective also the game is a remake because the characters in the game are REMAKING the plot into a new one
>it is your opinion that the time jannies are stupid thats subjective
You have brain damage.
If my post is narcissistic, it's because you have brain damage and believe those two facts aren't facts.
skip to the part where you were trolling all along and pretending to be moronic ok
its objective that its not a 1:1 remake sure, its still a remake
if a game is a remake and then gets changed at the end for a new ending its still a remake
Sorry anon. It's just objective truth. You have to go in the industrial shredder now. Just because you have brain damage and believe you dont belong in an industrial shredder doesn't mean it's not fact. You know how it goes.
No that's objective, just like the objective fact that the game is not a remake
That's not a remake that's a redo
People like you should be beaten to death in the public square for having the gall to speak with such narcissism. As a lesson to others.
Genuinely. You are actually beyond help if you don't see how obnoxious you are.
If you genuinely don't understand the difference between sharing your opinion and stating its an objective fact and everyone else is wrong, I seriously hope you get shoved foot first into an industrial shredder, you deserve nothing less.
Where the frick do you think you are you dumb zoomer moron
did you just call someone who posted a ron paul election shitpost a zoomer
I was so out of the loop I didn't know Poland is considered western country now
everything that isn't asian or russia is "the west" bro
Nah its like that only because they managed to produce something big for once
BUT BUT BUT
Ganker told me that Japan is the BEACON OF CREATIVITY IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY and that they're the masters who gave birth to the La Creatividad Kojima and Miyamoto so why are they stealing ideas from the west?
tbh tbh tbh tbh KA!?
Hello Mario
Fricking Mario, MAN. I used to play that shit for hours at the local laundromat. I must've sunk at least 2 hours of my LIFE into that shit man. Just CRUSHING TURTS.
If they're really copying Witcher 3, Tifa would be naked as frick.
The only good Final Fantasy VII was the one made around Kitase was dickridding Sakaguchi. Advent Children and literally everything post-FFVII is completely garbage.
I honestly can’t believe anyone even likes Crisis Core if not because of Zack. The actual gameplay is worse than FFII or some Nes RPGs.
The Remake was made for Amerifats. Look at how MCU it is, it’s literally a comic garbage multiverse writting that they’ve been consuming since the 50s.
>dissidia never existed
>the interdimensional rift never existed
>omega never existed
>gilgamesh never existed
Just admit you've never played final fantasy at this point it's becoming sad.
Dissidia is a garbage spin-off made for people like you that also enjoy garbage like VIIR.
Original Gilgamesh died in FFV, just admit you never played the game or any mainline game, there’s nothing about FFV that is multiverse. Being called Interdimensional Rift doesn’t change that, none of the characters from FFI, II, III and IV appeared in FFV.
>Hurrrdurrr Gogo in FFVI
A cameo and nothing more
how does a multiversal character dying somehow delete the concept of multiverse in the franchise
Being a cameo is completely different from crappy multiverse timelines that the Remake established, the fact that you’re a homosexual and want Zack alive to ship him with Aerith doesn’t change that.
something isn't a cameo just because you personally don't like how it fits in the canon
>the fact that you’re a homosexual and want Zack alive to ship him with Aerith doesn’t change that.
where did this come from you are mad as frick
You did not just step to me on understanding Final Fantasy 5.
Gilgamesh returns and sacrifices himself to defeat Necrophobe explicitly AFTER all of his interdimensional traveling. It is him RETURNING from being banished to the void. Theres a reason he's significantly stronger after he returns from it. Because he gained experience during all of his travels.
Your headcanon fanfic is as strong as you shipping Zack alive in the new timeline with Aerith.
I've never even played crisis core. Why do you think I give a frick about zack? The last time I mentioned the character I spelled his name as zach that's how little I care about the character other than funny gongaga post.
You're exposing yourself horrifically right now this is pretty sad.
Not my fault if you pretend that FFV had timeline multiverse garbage. It didn’t, none of the mainlines except for the ones Toriyama directed had it.
Try playing the actual games.
>start talking about ff5 again
>refuses to elaborate where this insane shipping autism about gongaga man and the walking katana decoration came from completely unprovoked
>doubles down on moronation anyways
Jesus dude. What the frick is wrong with you?
>moving goalposts
Average Ganker user
The Compilation was already MCU tier dogshit 15 years before the Remake came out.
Time is a flat circle
But remember guys, nobody liked AC! Nobody liked DoC!
There are plenty of people that never grew out of their deviantart phase that like AC and DoC.
Theres an insane amount of love put into clever aspect of the remake.
Every* xD
I hate witcher 3, but will probably love rebirth since it has interesting characters like cloud and barret instead of that boring gary stu jerry of the riviera.
>slop
What good games has Japan made in the last like decade+? I'm honestly struggling to think of a single one.
What's wrong with The Witcher 3? I'm playing it right now for the first time and I really like it.
Its not woke and brown! You must hate it you nazi! Only good witcher content is the netflix show!
Nothing at all, this board is just full of fricking weebs who hate anything western and popular. They actually believe FF7R is a good game somehow despite being an 80 dollar cliffhanger with 5 hours of gameplay.
>5 hours of gameplay
I'm 32 hours in and I'm not even out of hojos lab yet what is this bullshit.
I said gameplay not cutscenes for a reason
it would probably take 5 hours just to do the vr combat missions and wall market arena, alone.
5 hours is exaggerating but it is short for the price tag, especially a re-release on PC. Also they're going to wipe all gear and shit you grinded out in the first one, anyway.
Its gameplay and combat is dogshit, what which saved it was its pretty good writing. Unfortunately such level of writing is rare from Japanese devs and especially from modern Square Enix. The Persona games have some bloody cringe, moronic writing but in the end you don't care because the gameplay is good enough. Unfortunately modern day Square wants paper thin gameplay in their games which means there's nothing to distract you from the shit writing.
we broke the schizos script holy frick
>[Sad News]
Reminder this is a SEAmonkey writing this, because they can't discern emotion and tone from text they need a literal marker to tell them how to feel when reading a thread.
what the frick are you talking about
Thats 3rd worlders in general
FF always tried to appeal worldwide, it was never too weeb
Remember when Final Fantasy set trends instead of chasing them? Just goes to show how frick the franchise is.
What trend?
Most story-focused JRPGs follow the structure of Final Fantasy IV. FFII NES if you want to mention an even older game, although that game was still mostly a dungeon crawler with few dialogue, although unlike FFI and FFIII, the characters were not generic. You can see FFIV’s structure and setpieces in Wild Arms, Breath of Fire, Tales, Golden Sun, Xeno, Shadow Hearts,Star Ocean, even stuff like Trails.
FFXV is basically one of the latest Assassin’s Creed games that have RPG elements. It’s an open world game with a lot of fetch quests.
Curscenes and twinks
What, he's gonna add creepy sex scenes and a scene of Barrett taking a bath?
Can't believe people are still crying about this, what more can be said? The remake series will continue on its path
The only thing that could change it is real life time jannies. I think it's great tbhuu
I wasn't sold on the 2nd part of the remake until I saw all the goofy silly shit they added to it. Now it's up there as one of my most anticipated games with Dragon's Dogma 2 and MH Wilds.
Witcher 3 is without a doubt the greatest game in history so Japanese can only aspire to reach its greatness.
don't care but where the frick us FFXVI for PC?
Probably april-august
Fall at latest
I am betting that they will release it alongwith the DLC.
witcher 3 is east not west
What is the target audience for the Final Fantasy games?
i played FFVII recently and it was so fricking cringe, it was unplayable.
for who are these games being made?
>not for kids, because "SHIT FRICKS c**t b***h" are in dialogues non stop
>not for kids due to all the breasts being flashed everywhere, obviously coom bait
>not for adults, either, because the story and dialogues seem to be written by a 5 year old child afraid of talking to girls in his kindergarten class
who the frick is the target audience for these cringe games?
>well, beta nerds who like coom-baits
if thats the case, selling 3 mln copies is a gigantic fricking success.
this exact post could relate to baldurs gate 3 and nobody would notice.
What is not cringe for you? FNAF and LoL?CS?
There’s nothing wrong with FFVII, the setting, atmosphere and the Materia system are still among the best in the whole genre. Midgar in special is great.
FFVI was also good in that regard, with Narsh, Vector and the destruction of the world.
Square was inspired as frick around 1994~2000, people got great stuff like FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Tactics Ogre, FFVII, FF Tactics, Xenogears and FFIX in 6/7 years.
You were just filtered, being the riffraff you are.
So FF7 part 2 might be good then?
This idea that there has to be tons of "sidequests" is so bizarre to me
I'm pretty sure this wasn't the case before XIV and XV
FFXIII-2 and LRFFXIII also had a lot of garbage quests, and so did Xenoblade that, for no surprise, was released around the same time.
But yeah, a lot of bad fetch sidequests is modern bullshit design in JRPGs.
FFX had the Arena and Celestials, XII the marks, but none of them were MMO-styled like these (FFIX and X had some pretty awful minigames, tho…which are worse than boring fetch quests at least for me).
There were hunts sidequest in XII, dude. But you might be right, it probably started from XI. I can't really think of sidequest, or at least the form of sidequest that is lifted from MMOs design scheme in FFX and prior. There are sidequest, but they don't exactly tell you upfront that you need/can do them. Like the chocobo hot&cold, in IX, breeding in VII, dark summons in X, basically finding every ultimate weapon. These could be considered sidequest.
square enix is a westernized slop jp company, at a time when everyone wants Japanese games.
>literally only JP game that sold more than 3 million copies are Zelda and Persona 5 and Pokemon
Where is this "everyone"?
>literally only JP game that sold more than 3 million copies are
kingdom hearts, dmcv, resident evil, monster hunter world, elden ring, dark souls 3, dragon quest xi
I could gon
Literally all of those games are heavily westernized or based in western properties
>play ff7 remake
>it's not even finished
>buy episode 2 in 5 years whitto piggu fumao
The fact that some people are ok with this is so pathetic. It was a literal scam.
Ok, moron.
>no you see it's ok for the game to release in parts without advertising it as unfinished
Jump off
moron
The combat is so fricking fun. They nailed it
I'm genuinely concerned about the "dual-techs". From what I gather, it doesn't require ATB to use, wouldn't people just abuse and spam that thing?
>I'm genuinely concerned
Go back
>won't people just spam and abuse
Oh my gawd this mechanic we don't know anything about might be bad!!!11
Take your meds moron. It's just a harmless question.
You can't spam it. You have to build it.
Could've swore I heard in one of those early previews that you can just use them. Is there another resources/meter now that we need to build up, next to the ATB I mean. I didn't see any meters here. In Max's video it didn't seem like there's any ATB use either.
Those arent synergy skills, those are other stuff
It's mostly aimed to utility and it takes two to do instead, when you could have used 2 abilities with each one
Is this different than the move that they've shared on twitter, there's one where Cloud was slashing Aerith's magic that turns into a projectile and another is Tifa throwing Cat Shit into the mob. Also, is this (the one from the pic earlier) cancellable? Like while the animation is running, can I stop and use a different ATB move.
Yes they are different
The synergy abilities i believe they are called are basically the big attacks like the one you mentioned
The synergy skills are the ones you posted. Abilities that are more utility oriented, like lifting Tifa with aerith, that one or bodyguard.
I see, thanks for the clarification.
The one you posted it's damage oriented, but it's needs to be charged and requieres two characters, while you can just use 2 separate atb with the characters. It's not that spammable imo.
It mustn't have reached Square Enix yet if he's still getting early access, with how much he shit all over FFXVI after given preferential treatment and a presence on the show floor before release.
While he didn't exactly sing praises, he didn't go full sperg or "gamer mode". He gave criticism like a functioning adult would.
While playing Spiderman 2 he was asked to compare the two, which is when he did go full sperg mode against FFXVI.
I see. I didn't saw that. But to be honest, it was pretty obvious he wasn't enjoying the game, I think it was after Titan where he's trying so damn hard to not be thinking about playing the game. He wasn't streaming the game as frequent all of a sudden, if it weren't for chat, he'd probably drop the game. Probably why he was a bit more harsh, he was kinda forced to play the game. While during his XV Royal playthrough, he was defending the game from people telling him to stop playing it. I honestly don't take any streamer's opinion seriously. Their view on a game is often swayed by their community or gaming at large. I respect streamers who'd play the games offline, away from their chat and then give their views on it. At least I know their view are personal and not affected by chat spamming "weeb/woke trash", "cringe" or "HYPE!!".
He gave it a fair score. Besides this is like with Capcom, they tried to make up with re7 after trying to pander to codgays with 6, I can see them not falling for the action meme again
You need to stop thinking nips have that twisted evil side like westerns
>Could've swore I heard in one of those early previews that you can just use them. Is there another resources/meter now that we need to build up, next to the ATB I mean. I didn't see any meters here. In Max's video it didn't seem like there's any ATB use either.
The sinergy attacks seem really strong but it seems like the resources it uses are more expensive
To be fair every critic he did make sense. But yeah he is lucky that he's big enough, talk blatantly how he disliked that game and not be blacklisted.
You know, I'm playing Tales of Arise right now, it makes me appreciate the bosses in VIIR. At least your approach is consistent. Put enemy into pressured status, use stagger move, break stagger, use HP move. It's repetitive, sure, but at least it follows the same logic. Humanoid boss fight in Arise is fricking ASS. Fricking hell. Like Jesus fricking christ, who the frick thought hyper armor and HP sponges is a good fricking idea for boss fights. At least I can aim for weakpoints and stun while fighting giant zeugels.
Currently playing them back to back after finishing Arise and I couldn’t agree more. They’re very comparable in a way that only spotlights Aries’s shortcomings. As t least it was pretty to look at
I enjoy turn-based RPGs way more than the active stuff final fantasy does now. It's kind of a bummer
Someone post the ubisoft tower webm, I need a laugh
You mean, Zelda towers?
No, Ubisoft towers.
here you go kiddo
pure ff7 goodness right here
I think if ubisoft towers were just bossfights or like, an actual dungeon people wouldn't shit on them as much. a location that reveals stuff on the map or removes fog of war is fine in theory, the method of doing it is just getting really boring.
How is this any different than asking the restaurant workers in XV?
they're both bad systems
>tower puts 3 icons on the map doesn't even lift the fog of war
what's even the point of the tower
>be westernized slop.
wasnt Witcher 3 before CD Projekt went woke though?
No Yuffie sex scenes no buy.
Good taste, Witcher 3 is widely agreed as the Best RPG ever and is also the most commercially successful RPG as well
That chick did not give a frick
Witcher 3 chads just cannot stop counting W's
I bought a PS5 last week specifically for this game and Dragons Dogma 2.
They made him really adorable
His death scene will sadder in the remake
I don't know man I can't be sad about Cait Sith knowing it's just Reeve channeling his furry powers
Imagining how this mf will probably be very popular between the new audience of remake.
You know the devs will have put a lot of effort into making him likeable due to him being the least popular party member in the og game.
I think they are doing that will all the characters. But yeah cait will probably get a lot more to work with and the fact he is a cute goofy cat will make a lot of people like him.
I bought mine last month , i know i would have to sooner or later.
CUTE
Theres needs to be a proper explanation for Cait Sith. Does Reeve fully control all aspects of him 24/7? Like does Reeve put on the Scottish accent to speak through a microphone or does he just tell Cait Sith what to say and that Scottish voice is just Cait Siths own voice? Does Cait Sith have its own thoughts and feelings about things and can he operate by himself without Reeve? When he dies does he get fully copy pasted onto the new physical body or is it a totally new Cait Sith with its own separate opinions and thoughts?
IIRC Reeve can literally bring things to life with his inspire ability.
Yes, it doesn't make sense.
If they go this route, i wonder if this would truly make cait a living thing that can actually die.
I think making him a puppet that receives orders from Reeve could be better than just making him a robot, but who knows what they'll do.
>If they go this route, i wonder if this would truly make cait a living thing that can actually die.
>I think making him a puppet that receives orders from Reeve could be better than just making him a robot, but who knows what they'll do.
I think they could make him a proto-android, who has his own personality. Remake already touches on the subject with characters like Chadley.
Chadley is a cyborg. So yeah Hojo did experiments with real children too.
he can do WHAT now
is this why this shit happened
Yes. Seems like dirge went with that idea of Cait being its own thing.
Despite how shitty the game was it really good looking.
FF7's party is so fricking funny. The weirdest mfs ever. Even have an absolute schizo as a leader.
>Schizo MC
>Spunky flower girl
>MMA beauty
>Black terrorist
>Goofy Ninja
>Well spoken LabRatDog
>butthole Pilot
>Cuck Vampire
>Cat Riding a dude controlled by another dude
..Yea pretty wierd
And all of them have incredible designs. FF7's party is just immaculate.
>Cat Riding a dude controlled by another dude
FF7 truly has the best cast by far
>>Cuck Vampire
Sephiroth is Vincent's son
Pilot
tfw you realize old and jaded Cid is younger than you now
The Japs seem to think you're an old man at 30 for some reason.
Theres needs to be a part of the game where its just Yuffie and Cait Sith and Vincent alone away from the rest of the party.
It’s hilarious how psychotic and deranged these moronic threads are
They should add a brand new party member in part 3 who was not in the og ps1 game. And no I don't mean Zack. I mean a totally new person.
Here ya go
Whats his fighting style/weapon?
Well, while it would make more sense for him to use some form of gun, since Vincent AND Barret use guns I think it'd be cool to have him use Kusarigama
Kusa is cool.
What happened to the consensus on TW3? Used to be people were having debates over the best girl and comparing, favourably, the way CDPR showed attractive naked women compared to the crap the west put out. Now it's "slop" to even be inspired by it? What happened?
The gameplay isn't good.
The game itself is alright but the combat sucks.
>The game itself is alright but the combat sucks.
And yet it still has more daily players than Skyrim somehow. I mean, once you experience the story once, I don't get what else there is to do. It's not like you can roll a different build or roleplay in anyway.
It's not exactly a high bar. Skyrim's gameplay is worse than most other action RPGs, it just has tons of choice, but the people mostly playing Skyrim nowadays are modding the frick out of it. The Witcher's got a public limelight thanks to the show and the first game's remake on the way plus CDPR being popular right now thanks to their "redemption arc", and the story and in-game content doesn't really need mods to enjoy them.
>It's not exactly a high bar
Skyrim and Witcher 3 are consistently some of the top most-played single player games on Steam. It's a very high bar that almost no other single player game comes close to more than a year after release.
Because games are an amalgamation of many elements. It is not just combat, there is the world,characters,narrative,exploration
The fact the witcher 3's is one of the most sold rpg games doesnt mean it does all its elements perfectly. As everyone knows, the combat is dogshit.
People aren't saying this series is going to be slop because of substandard combat.
I am. I'd be willing to stomach a lot of the moronic changes if the combat was good, but it's not. If the gameplay is fun I can let a game get away with a lot.
I don't want Cait Sith to die in the remake.
>Falls down
>"I can protect the planet too!"
>"There's plenty of stuffed toys like my body around, but there's only one me!"
>Don't forget me even if another Cait Sith comes along."
>"Good bye, then! Guess I'm off to save the planet..."
Its ok. Aerith will save him in the remake. She won't let him die.
Yoshitpiss was a mistake
Barry was right, jrpgs are dead.
play falcom games weeb man
The white man's JRPG.
>Actionslop
Kill yoursel Black person
>actionslop
>turn based JRPG
Black person what?
They added an action mode to the latest game, Falcom are just as bad at trend chasing
Which is optional.
It's still in the game. Falcom makes actionslop not real JARPIGS
okay, go back to playing etrian odyssey then
>okay, go back to playing a good game then
I will!
So like how 7R has Classic mode?
You mean the mode that is literally only usable for random trash mobs and can't be used at all for any important story fight? That action mode? Yeah I'm aware of it. I'll repeat. Black person what?
I don't understand who gets excited for this trash. Final Fantasy hasn't been good since 10 and hasn't been great since 9. What baffles me the most is people who praise the combat. FF1 on NES had more tactical depth than FF7R.
This! i'm also trying everything to stop people from buying this game. But they wont listen!
>FF1 on NES had more tactical depth than FF7R.
It even arguably has more strategical depth than FF7R as you were scraping by for resources in FF1.
Wait, Square is chasing trends and late to the party doing it? No fricking way!
Final Fantasy hasn't been in a good place since FF9. Calm the frick down and let them try out something new. It's not like there's anything to lose anyways.
>avatars-000569390784-iv3lex-t500x500
What good place even means because the one you used as example was the only one who bombed lmao
>It's not like there's anything to lose anyways.
Yeah, let's just spend the next 20 years pumping dog shit games over and over again, after all, we have unlimited time, isn't it?
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Think they'll keep Cid's DV towards his gf? He was quite a gentleman for some reason in the trailer
sloppa