Safi'jiiva is fricking stupid. Not only is it designed like a generic European dragon, the fight is kind of a mess. Can anyone think of a good reason why the fight is designed like that? Also why the weapons system is so dumb?
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Shitty MMO raid bosses stinking up my MH game. Wilds better fricking not repeat that mistake.
I think they tried their hardest to create the most generic MMO fight, from the design of the monster to the randomness of the loot. This feels like a misguided experiment.
Considering they are basically non existent in sunbreak they probably aren't going to bother
That's because rise doesn't have the 16 player lobbies world did.
Wilds will probably have 100 player lobbies hunting Raviente. I'm not putting up with that.
At that point I’d not even be ashamed for becoming a bowgay.
Didn't matter when all quests where locked to 4 players. Embarassing really, even Frontier could have more in a hunt.
it does matter because the whole lobby contributes to the progress bar with their hunts
>Even frontier
Only frontier did that
Rampages were kind of shitty MMO fights. But since Sunbreak got rid of them your point still is valid.
Rampages were actually fun when you get to use melee weapons and not sit your ass on the turrets.
If rampages were so fun then why did Sunbreak sweep them under the rug?
Because people were complaining about them, and rather than fixing it to make it fun they just removed them entirely.
I don't know, but it suffered for it. Sunbreak doesn't really have its own identity, you know? It's just vanilla: the MH. It's delicious vanilla but there's nothing special about it.
>Sunbreak doesn't have its own identity
What am I reading? Sunbreak is so different from every other Monster Hunter except perhaps GU that there's an argument to be made that it's a spin-off.
The MMO-ness of Kulve, Behemoth, and Safi has more to do with the mechanical gimmicks of the monster and how the quests and rewards are structured. I personally just hated the RNG weapons.
>Sunbreak is so different from every other Monster Hunter except perhaps GU that there's an argument to be made that it's a spin-off
God damn is this bait getting stale.
same reason that they got rid of swimming
people complained and instead of fixing what was wrong they just ditched it
Did you guys forget that we literally solved the Rampage issue during the Rise story? There's no reason for more Rampages.
so they can't make up another excuse for rampages?
Why do that when they can fill in the space Rampages occupied within the plot with another plot element instead? Which is what they did.
Because they could have made them fun? They even abandoned the rampage skills and rampage weapons which were neat.
Anon, the entire Rampage gimmick was replaced by something else because it's done. Over. Finished.
What's so hard to understand about that?
Are you talking about the the thing that was added months after? And why does it have to be either or? They could have added master rank rampages for virtually no effort. They even added master rank narwa and ibushi ffs
BECAUSE
ANONYMOUS
THE RAMPAGE WAS A STORY THING
AND IT WAS RESOLVED AT THE
END
OF
THE
BASE GAME
STORY!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT IS SO HARD TO GRASP ABOUT THAT!?
Rampages were nice spectacle, but they minimized the monster's traits to a heavy degree, and became pretty samey. With the dislike towards them, not surprising they switched to something else, instead of working on something the playerbase wasn't enjoying.
The dislike mostly came from turning the game into tower defense and not fighting monsters. If it was based around you fighting monsters with npc back up that would be fine.
HOLY SHIT Black person THEY COULD JUST WROTE IN AN EXCUSE
THE ENTIRE SERIES IS AN EXCUSE STORY AND THE LACK OF G-RANK RAMPAGE IS WHERE YOU HAVE AN ISSUE? I'M GONNA SKULL-FRICK YOU WITH A DIABLOS HORN
BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FUN FEATURE BUT THEY THREW IT AWAY
HOW ABOUT I THROW YOU AWAY INSTEAD
PULL UP b***h
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yeah just turn it into a monster rush and ditch most of the tower defense besides dragonator
Say ur prayers, kiddo. I've just ordered several eggplant pizzas and they're on the way right now.
It's over for you.
You will be severely disappointed by the outcome of your pizza deliveries, anon.
Good. You like eggplant, anyway.
you buying him dinner at churches?
There was no salvaging that cancer.
The issue is that rampages are heavily chained to the tower defense stuff, which is the worst thing about them. Rip that out, and you need to fill that gap. And at that point, why not just add qurio monster rush quests and dump the rampage thing entirely?
you mean literally every MH story?
That was the portable team. Ryozo might try again.
Safi'jiiva is such a crapshoot that I can't tell if this post is a bait OP as tradition or he's legitimately shitting on this garbage fight.
Ifeel like safi was supposed to be something else that got reworked. Like Xeno was supposed to be something else.
Agreed. It cant be that this dragon that entirely feeds on dead elder dragon enegy and glows blue just grows up to be boring
At least his B armor looked cool
Pic rel (Left his his a, right is his b armor)
>Layered armor only activates if you have the effect on.
gay. lame. moronic.
Thats just his B Armour in both inactivated and activated states (due to the set bonus. This is his A set inactivated and activated for comparison.
xeno was literally an abortion. Safi is the adult form.
I fricking hate you trannies thats why we can't have cool designs anymore
I'd understand the complain if ALL monster in the game looked generic, but almost all of them have an extravagant design, we should at least have one that looks traditionally cool
>Dude, generic is le cool!
Cool. Go play Ryu now fricking casual.
Yes it's cool to have the most powerful dragons be generic while the weaker ones have more unique designs.
But we already have plenty of generic designs. Fatalis and Alatreon are cool, despite looking kinda generic.
>we should at least have one that looks traditionally cool
That's Fatty, stupid. That's Fatty's gimmick. He's just an ordinary fire breathing dragon.
Also, he's an alien and his wings have constellation patterns in them
That's dope as hell, people that shit on his design either don't know this or they also think Fatalis is "dumb and boring"
>Also, he's an alien
no. Never was. Xeno'jiiva isn't an alien, Safi isn't either. They're star-themed. Safi is a homosexual red dragon. Always was. They grow by luring moron dragons towards their nest and channeling their energies to themselves after they die. He's the fatalis for Zorah's lao. nothing more, nothing less, except that Zorah is a peaceful walking NUKE.
The myth implies that he literally came from space. The sapphire star was him.
The myths also literally implies that Velkana doesn't fricking exist and Dalamadur is a god.
XENO LITERALLY MEANS ALIEN YOU Black person
xeno/safi is shit and Fatalis is great
what now?
>Like Xeno was supposed to be something else
He really does feel like a huge missed opportunity. From alien dragon to just...medieval dragon? If they had kept more of his alien aspects, or even increased them, he could have been a much more interesting design. Life for example. Keeps some of his blue transparent skin, six eyes, a split opened jaw(like the vampire in blade2), 2 sets of wings. The idea being that he's an alien life form trying to imitate a medieval dragon instead of just convincingly growing into one.
I thought the idea for Xeno'Jiva was it's alien-like form was a lot like how some animals have very bizarre larval forms but become relatively mundane adults.
Take Antlions or those weird glow maggots for example.
Congrats, you're the only person here with a brain.
>The idea being that he's an alien life form trying to imitate a medieval dragon instead of just convincingly growing into one.
its essentially just the ultimate invasive species, it adapted to the world around it and now changes the entire ecosystem to benefit its new needs
its why alatreon sperged out so hard at its existence
I like the fact he's a cool dragon. Like Fatalis. Fight is kinda lame though I agree.
It always amuses me how a fight with one or two added mechanics will all of a sudden filter out the supposed "hardcore vets."
Yeah. But enough about Magnamalo, OP wants to discuss the Worldabortion.
>alatreon if you don't have an elemental set ready to go
>safi'jiiva
>behemoth
>kulve taroth to an extent
trash MMO-esque design battles that should be avoided at all costs
>fatalis
fricking perfect should be battled 20732087 times
Alatreon can be beaten using RAW weapons. You can fail the dps check 3 times, thats enough time to kill him if you're not a shitter.
Fatalis is fantastic, Alatreon is great when he's not running around, but yes the rest are trash. It felt like they were really struggling to figure out how to make the late-game monsters difficult without making them... difficult. Even Furious Rajang's difficult comes from how hyperactive he is - his attacks are as inaccurate as most other monsters' in World or Iceborne.
The actual fight is good but the raid system is not. It feels like it takes an hour to actually kill safi with randos.
Why do trannies have a particular hatred for things that look traditional or "generic?
I think Safi Jiiva is the coolest dragon in the game he looks like the ideal dragon, Fatalis is small and goofy, he looks like a drake from DD with the neck of Grigori but even slimmer
Safi is too much cat, not enough snake. The best dragons are all at least 50% snake.
What? Did the previous Rise threads not garner enough replies?
Guess he's just taking a break from spamming "shut on rise" threads for the time being.
Where World bosses really "MMO" fights though? They where more just gimmick bosses, no? Behemoth, sure, since it enforced a role. But the others your roll doesn't matter.
I guess in the context of modern MMOs where all classes are homegenised and you just have to follow the boss gimmick to not wipe I get it. But compared to "real" MMOs that aren't WoW-shit clones, there nothing alike. I mean siege monsters where always a thing in MH afterall.
I think people mostly just complained about the inclusion of a dps check as being mmo.
Depends what constitutes an "mmo fight". Safi needs to have a party to actually kill unless you're running some minmax ultra cheesy bowgun build but that doesn't make his fight any less shit where he's just flailing around like a moron.
Behemoth is a literal straight up mmo fight because that's what it was designed to be.
Kulve too but she's a lot easier to solo in her Master Rank quest and you aren't required to do that stupid first phase.
Alatreon has a literal dps check but it doesn't take much to beat and his fight is arguably the best in the game.
Hunt it enough times to make the set then save edit the weapons. That's what I did. I've never even killed Kulve once and I have over 9000 hours playtime. I just edited in the mats. Frick these stupid hunts.
I don't blame you at all. Getting a set of safi armor was enough for me and the weapons are not really worth it after the meta updates.
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I'm interested in how they're going to handle the verticality in wilds if it's open world. World felt pretty flat for the most part.
Safi'jiiva is generic but that's kind of the point. It's an alien sucking up all the BIOENERGY it can get its paws on. It makes sense for it to just be the average of a lot of features.
Free my homie Gammoth
Terrible excuse. Never post again for five minutes.
No.
3 of my friends just started playing World+Iceborne because Wild announcement. So I got back in the game along with them (with HR appropriate gears, of course). And I realize how shit the game flow from base game to IB when you have everything in one go.
>They beat World with HR 40 when I wasn't with them
>They jumped into IB right away
>HR Tempered Elders, HR golden goat, HR Jho, HR Luna, and Behemoth were skipped as the result. Either because the game just not giving the quests to them, or they see no point in doing them.
Still thinking how i will manage a MR Safi or Kulve hunt with a group of 4.
Wilds is so fricking faaaaaar
Not sure if I want to double-dip in Rise on PC or play World for the first time.
The latter is cheaper but is anyone even playing it? Or are most players on Rise?
World is more popular than Rise on PC.
Thanks bros.
>Make sure you get Iceborne
Iceborne is World's equivalent to Sunbreak right?
Like DLC with more areas and monsters
That's a good way to sum it up. Major improvement on the base game, same thing SB did with Rise.
Bruv, if you haven't played World but enjoyed Rise then get it
Both 5th gen games are could despite schizo posts drawing closer by the minute
good* I'm typing upside down
Both are good, give World a shot for a change of pace. If you've gone through Rise/Sunbreak already, why not try something new?
Even if rise had more players, it would be way easier to find randos in world to play with because is has an sos flare system that allows people to easily join your quest.
You could just open a lobby.
I've had no one join lobbies in rise for like an hour straight. Most lobbies I end up joining have people afk or already active in the quest with 4 people. It just doesn't work.
Works on my machine
highly doubt that, especially considering that I was playing during the height of the game. I can't imagine any rando being able to do a high level anomaly quest.
OK
World still has a shitload of players, though maybe not so much in low ranks. Make sure you get Iceborne with it since they locked like one or two moves per weapon behind it and those moves make the difference between a weapon being just okay and being godlike for some of them.
rise lets you "accept with join request" when picking hub quests (or open them mid-quest if you didn't), essentially the same thing as sos
I love this fight. It's all about teamwork and everyone picking a good role to play. Generally you always want a bowgunner for the wings and back, but you want a good mix to break the other parts too.
About the weapons: They're generally easy to get multiple copies of all the weapons. The worst part is the random skill portion and getting materials for that. The trick here is not wait for particular skills and just fill up the skill list to "level" the weapon up, and once it reaches higher levels, you have a higher chance to get the rank of the skills you want. The worst is waiting for specific monster abilities like Velkhana's divinity or whatever it's called (ele crit one).
Thanks for putting me into a MH mood fricker. I guess I'll go play.
I think the raid bosses world/IB like kulve taroth, behemoth, ancient leshen, xavi, aleotreon, and fatalis are enjoyable.
Even Shara Ishvalda is a fairly good raid boss and much better than narwa
by raid boss people are either talking about behemoth or the ones with consecutive hunt mechanics like kulve and safi.
Raid mechanics are ass and should never return, just makes grinding a complete crapshoot in how long it'll take. The fights themselves are fine though, like KT is fun when you don't have to go through the boring ass chase sequence and can just fight her immediately. Also none of these are really "raids', they're just strong monsters.
Why Raging Brachy so fricking mad?
Would rather fricking die exploding than live.
I just think his second phase where he blows himself the frick up and loses his blastblight abilities because he roasted himself is cool.
Is Safi up are we still on KT? I need some more dracolite. I wish there was an event quest that skipped the raid, even if the only reward was that datamined mega dracolite.
>See HH montages
>Damn, this looks cool
>Try it out
>Monsters don't give a frick about my strikes and barely ever flinch
>Realize it only looks cool and fun because they're using OP weapons that constantly stun and flinch monsters
That's all montages where they run part break meters to see exactly when the monster is about to flinch.
Every single weapon montage you've ever watched is carefully planned and rehearsed and hinges entirely on the player having a good handle on monster stagger/flinch thresholds cheating required.
*NO cheating required.
HH is pretty fun though, provided you're not hunting some tall spastic shithead like deviljho or something that flings its head around while downed so half of the spin attack always whiffs.
just getting carried by people that actually do flinch and deeps
People like Fatalis, so they probably thought this is fine too. Still better than goofy ass Narwa 1,2,3 and 4.
What is the lore behind elder dragons?
Calamity causing homosexuals
"I don't fricking know what this is" homosexuals
Old dragons
the lore is that elder dragons exist outside the regular rules of nature and can be whatever the frick they want. Like monsters are really just big animals. Elder dragons are actually more like mythical forces of nature than animals.
shit's weird and they strong
They look cool and do amazing shit
Biomagic
they have some abilities that are more devestating than your average large monsters. mostly some pseudo magic shit that is devastating for eco systems. everything can be an elder dragon. be it tentacle monster, snake, or a fricking unicorn.
WIZARD MONSTERS
Most come from a 4 limbed lineage.
all hunts must be on a hunting map
arena fights are utter dogshit and don't belong in monhun
I like capturing monsters on the real maps and then beating the shit out of them in the bully pit
generic is cool
FEMALE WYVERNS OWE ME SEX
>*Farts uncontrollably*
Legitimately wouldn't mind if this homosexual purple cat never came back, what a weak flagship
Base Magna feels too busy, they shoved too many features into the cat. Scorned is better by a mile.
They snapped his wiener like a carrot, fricked up.
Most dogshit monster they ever designed. If you can call slapping in a GE reject designing.
Magnamalo and Magnamalo Zero Schneider are too much as far as designs go, but they're great fights. Malzeno might btfo in terms of overall fight AND design, but I'd rather Mags than Nerg (who I still like). Velkhana will be forgotten, it's one of the least popular flagships and elders ever.
He was the real victim
>a bunch of humans break his horn ensuring he'll never have sex for 30 years
I don't mind Safi'Jiiva as a design, but I think it absolutely wastes Xeno'Jiiva
What a waste to go from an ayy dragon with transluscent skin and lasers to a big generic red dragon with lasers. If they had given Safi'jiiva a different name, you'd have no idea that it was meant to be the mature form of Xeno. Also, while I don't particularly like the raid boss aspect of needing to do his fight 3-6 times to get a reward, I did like how his fight brought a lobby together and it was genuinely fun to fight a monster so massive that everyone can prioritize different parts. That, and getting the chest break on him and seeing him keel over was incredibly satisfying, and his gear looks sick
I just want them to drop the MMO endgame fights entirely because they end up boiling down to 4 bowgun parties every time anyway
I always found the lore about the Great War, Ancient Civilizations , and the (scrapped) EDW super interesting. Shame it was all dropped.
>Final boss of GU pulls a bunch of ancient dragonators and other weapons out of the sand to fight you
was a kino ending
Missed opportunity in Sunbreak for a frankenstein monster.
I want a hunt against an ancient elder dragon
but you're the one being hunted
you have to survive, evade and defend against it for small amount of time
Ahtal-Ka puppeteering this thing would be an amazing way to bring it back
World is complete dogshit and has no redeeming qualities.
I'll take incelmalo over jobbergante, at least the fart tiger is a fun fight without needing extra stats or a variant
'ate EDW posters
Just don't like 'em
>10/10 theme music
>0/10 fight
>Nobody bothered too much with the weapons
>So much wasted potential
It pisses me off cause it could've been cool instead of being a loot pinata that has a 50% chance if wiping your raid unavoidably in the final stage.
Xeno absorbs energy from dragons so that it can evolve into the platonic ideal of a dragon.
Xeno is a dumb smelly dragon stickbug mimicking REAL dragons like Teostra and Fatalis and Alatreon.
Poat dragons
I want to mount him.
RNG weapons are shit and if they pull this shit again in Wilds then I'm gonna fly to Japan and shoot up Capcoms HQ.
Filtered, op is a gay
Strange, safi is my favorite monster in world by far,a shame you can only fight him in the raid event
Xeno and Safi have the problem of being built off of Grigori's skeleton and sharing a lot of his moves, but they're in Monster Hunter and not Dragon's Dogma. So instead of a having a tiny weakspot to work around (the Heart, or the Ur-Dragon's 20 hearts) you can just slap them wherever you want. It turned Xeno into a complete joke. The game also lacks the climbing mechanic which helps deal with the big ass skeleton, or Grig's/Ur's various spell attacks that help him deal with enemies in hard to reach places. I kind of get why they fricked up Xeno, because they were clearly running out of devs times and monsters. But really no excuse for not doing more to fix Safi. Fatty is much better because it actually feels like a purpose built MonHun (scripted) fight.
loregays where exactly on the scale does saffi sit compared to other elder dragons?
Below Fatty and Fatty variants, above or equal to everything else, as part of the "not quite Fatty tier" club.
is fatty really that strong? Saffi is an adult xeno and that ayy lmao looking motherfricker shot laser beams
white fatty comes out of an eclipse black hole in this intro
the fatalis trio are just straight up supernatural entities
I love how Fatty Blanco incorporates elements of East Asian dragons into the design. Also GOAT theme.
Same lvl as base fatty, below crimson and white
Same level as Fatty, as stated by one of the devs on a panel or some shit.
White Fatty I'm pretty sure still roasts Safi anyday.
My question: how does Fatty rate vs Dalamadur?
I think Safi's design is great.
Safi Jiva is awesome, Alatreon is incredible, Fatalis is the best fight in the game. Behemoth is dogshit (but not as dogshit as Leshen) and Kulve Taroth is mediocre except for the final phase in the re-fight when you actually kill her.
only good opinion itt
I just bought the game, and I keep hearing about ICEmod or something
What does it do? Can I use it for online sessions too?
ANSWER ME
>just bought the game
>already trying to use an overhaul mod
shit Black person what are you doing
>What does it do?
It's a complete overhaul of the game.
>Can I use it for online sessions too?
Yes, but you'll only be able to play with people who also have the mod installed
I want a White Fatalis final boss fight in Wilds where he destroys the whole open world as you fight him.
>muh Fatalis
he's the strongest monster in Monster Hunter
fighting anything else is anticlimactic
it's why MHWIB will forever be remembered as the best title in the series
because of him
Is GS really just trying to charge up swings hoping to bonk a monster's head?
When you're good, you don't need to hope.
Only when you first start, prediction becomes the name of the game after enough experience. Maybe you make a quickdraw set with punishing slash and Velkhanas set bonus or something for variety.
You learn to position and actively setup on a monsters recovery. You can learn any monster with any weapon and transition to GS easily
it's a weapon that requires forward thinking.
so only white men are really capable of using it properly
non-whites that use it rely on luck
GS is the weapon dedicated to reading the monster like a goddamn book.
I'm currently replaying world and I want to use a secondary weapon, current main is Dual Blades
Interested in Hunting Horn and Lance
which one should I pick?
full burst gunlance
personally i would choose lance since the little guard counter into clutch claw attack is really fun
I LOVE SAFI JIVA
>I LOVE SAFI JIVA
I LOVE SAFI JIVA
>I LOVE SAFI JIVA
t. average worldbaby
I liked the Safi fight and design plenty. I'm not a turbo autist sperg so I really wasn't bothered by having to find other people to play with to run through the fight. It was nice having a grind that wasn't ridiculous like the deco grind and the KT grind. The super move was cool too, it was just kind of lame how it copied the Behemoth meteor.
My REAL gripe with Safi was that it didn't turn out to be black/green like the initial teaser trailer (the one where we only saw its silhouette) suggested it might be. And the constellations on its wings are hard to see. I would have loved it if the alien baby turned into the dark void of space with a blatant star motif. Would have been cheesy, but cool.
Also no AT Safi 🙁
>Would have been cheesy,
It's an Elder Dragon, it can and should be cheesy.
>My REAL gripe with Safi was that it didn't turn out to be black/green like the initial teaser trailer
safi is red specifically to contrast fatalis' black
WELL THEN MAYBE FATALIS SHOULD CHANGE!
dont worry when they bring back safi and give him another variant he will be blue
>White Fatalis
>Crimson Fatalis
why do MH "fans" hate everything about the series
I would like Kulve and Safi a lot more if not for the stupid weapon gacha bullshit
yeah the fight sucks, is repetetive but unfortunately yields great rewards.
really sticks out in an otherwise great game
>filtered
>no friends
>bad at games
>ez fight
>you're dumb
>ez mechanics
>git gud
>bad build
>worse weapon
>trying to single player MH
>bad overall
>omg a flare what is that?!?!?11
>ugly armor
>bad cat
>no megas
Just uh... play the game, shitter?
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