If you know anything about 40k or things like the Badab War, you'd know this is extremely believable for the Imperium to do. They constantly do moronic shit like go to war with their own loyal worlds and armies just over ridiculous political bullshit and false heresy accusations.
Apparently the alleged Chaos taint should have been dealt with by the Ultramarine Chaplain and Librarians.
yes, the codex does say to do that, and ultramarines are supposed to know that especially but leandros was apparently ultrasleeping in that part of ultraclass
This is honestly the most moronic part. Ultramarines are the bible nerds of 40k. Same shit happens in Blades of Damocles. If you're gonna write a "frick the codex" character, don't make him an Ultramarine.
that is true but really its illogical for like 99.9% of marines, especially for codex humpers like Big Blue Robs boys but in general the Space Marines would rather handle shit internally so few chapters would ever go to the fricking Inquisition to deal with it, theyd have the chaplain the librarian the chapter master and maybe some other head honchos of the chapter deal with it and if found heretical have the chaplain crozius the offenders face off
the inquisition doesn't give a flying frick about astartes traditions and they can and will do whatever they want if they believe they can get away with it without risking retribution from the opposing party. if there were more ultramarines there, they would have slapped their dicks on the table and told the inquisitor to frick off before they open fire, but the only other ultramarine on the planet was leandros.
the only actual weird lore thing in that scene is that the inquisitor is accompanied by black templars, who are notorious inquisition haters and would never offer any of their brothers as a security detail for a dinky fricking inquisitor. assuming he's ordo hereticus, it would have been more accurate for him to come with a retinue of stormtroopers, crusaders, or even sisters of battle.
or just red hunters if they just need pallette-swapped marines
Deathwatch works for ordo xenos who deal with aliens not heretics. Grey knights work for the ordo malleus who are the demon hunters. Ordo hereticus usually rounds up whatever battle sisters are available.
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Deathwatch works with, not for ordo xenos, they are an independent entity.
>the inquisition doesn't give a flying frick about astartes traditions and they can and will do whatever they want if they believe they can get away with it without risking retribution from the opposing party. >that time they tried to pull their shit with the space wolves and the inquisition, the grey knights, and the red hunters got their shit pushed in
exactly. every time the inquisition oversteps its boundaries (or, rather, makes a gamble without the necessary forces to back up their claims) they get their shit pushed in. the space wolves all full-on mutants in the eyes of the inquisition but they continue to exist because the resources/manpower it would take to get rid of him is just too much of a headache. its funny how imperial politics immediately devolves into "laws of the jungle," and highlights one of the more interesting parts of 40k's setting that isn't really explored that much in nu40k since girlyman took over.
the imperium is not a single, unified political body. its a corpse encompassing the influence of humanity, laid across the whole galaxy and occupied by various political factions, institutions, and orders all with their own respective, often overlapping agendas. they all follow the same ideology in name but at the end of the day they all have their own guns, their own soldiers, their own planets, and they believe they represent the emperor's true will better than anyone else.
the inquisitor cannot prosecute you if you just shoot him
>nu wh40k talks.
Listen lad this is not the way humanity has conquered the galaxy by trillions of planets.
You belong ib the hands of the inquisition and all devs spreading this chaos image of the Empire of Man.
I should have put quotations around the word chapter, but yeah.
I had to warch the ending again, and you're right. I guess I gaslit myself into thinking they were deathwatch since that makes more sense.
No they were templars. But Templars have no beef as such with the inquisition like the space wolves, beyond the inquistion keeping an eye on them for their crusader organisation which is still not a negative look on the inquisition from the templars.
The Templars generally get on OK with Puritan Inquisitors who don't ask silly questions like "seriously, how many of you guys are out there, these numbers don't add up", because those guys have a weird tendency to disappear and leave no forwarding addresses before they can make friends. Plus, if you were a Templar squad in that situation, why WOULDN'T you go along with it?
>an Inquisitor is asking for backup arresting a potentially Chaos-tainted Ultramarine. >option 1: it's not chaos, but you can never be too careful with the Great Enemy. By being present, you can make sure a brother Marine is treated fairly, get in good with an Inquisitor AND get some amazing material to rub in the face of the next Ultramarine who tries to get snooty with your crusade. >option 2: it is Chaos. Scourge and purge! The Inquisitor will be grateful that you and the boys are there to throw down (or at least they will be, if they know what's good for them), you have avenged a stain on the honour of the Astartes by destroying a traitor to a first founding, AND you get to rub it in the face of the Ultramarines.
Its win-win, everyone's getting extra purity seals from this one.
If you know anything about 40k or things like the Badab War, you'd know this is extremely believable for the Imperium to do. They constantly do moronic shit like go to war with their own loyal worlds and armies just over ridiculous political bullshit and false heresy accusations.
I swear the Minotaurs and the Silver Skulls chapter have opened the floodgates for loyalist chapters of traitor legion geneseed homebrewery.
I think the concept is cool (and might do it myself) but I feel second hand embarrassment because of how common they are in the homebrewing space like edgy Sonic OCs.
Honestly, loyalist chapters who are traitor legion successors is a really cool concept if its done right. I still subscribe to the idea that the Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons or at least have some relation to their geneseed. Space Sharks being Night Lord successors is a cool concept too.
11 months ago
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>Space Sharks being Night Lord successors
They are hybrid RG/NL.
11 months ago
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It's cool but it's one of those 'baby's first custom marine chapter' things that everyone does. It can be interesting when done right, but too many people just want to literally just make a chapter in OG traitor legion colors or whatever. If a chapter is descended from traitor stock that shit should be ultra-top-secret, if anything it should be a major flaw for the Chapter to deal with. I think Forgeworld did it best with the Red Scorpions: >Chapter with mysterious past, no records remaining of their origin or founding >Extremely isolationist >Overzealous in the extreme, as well as strangely tactically flexible >Mysteriously pure geneseed that the admech cannot identify the source of
Basically they made them act like pre-heresy EC but gave them their own schtick.
as long as you make them interesting who cares
besides its all but confirmed cawl has straight up done it and Emperor only knows how many marines he made using the naughty primarch juices (lookin at you Sons of the Phoenix)
just please in the name of autism make them a planet based chapter and autistically go into detail about the planet and the chapter and its customs
Fair enough.
Honestly it seems that space marines given their popularity have the monopoly on homebrewing cliches but it now makes me wonder what homebrewing cliches are common across the other factions.
Especially guard, orks, Necrons and knights.
dunno if its a prevalent outside marines, and guard gets kinda screwed since GW doesnt put out near the range of models forcing people to resort to kitbashing if they want to even try
>tfw my first made up chapter were secret night lords
i wish i still had my writings. i autistically catalogued their history up to the start of the 13th black crusade
i made mine before they were fleshed out, stealing the idea from dark crusade and the blood ravens. all my notes were written in a notebook before imperial armour expanded on them and they got their novels.
Occasionally a radical inquisitor will just start popping the heads of multiple planetary governors because their coked up mind thinks letting the planets collapse and making all the psykers explode will save the imperium or something.
How did the Iron Hands miss the point of mr Metal Elbows so hard? It's not like the blood angels or Imperial fists abandoned their primarch's teachings?
The Iron Hands think that Ferrus Manus sucked for getting so enraged by Horus's betrayal that he got his legion wrecked by being illogical in service to his flesh. It's true that they fail to live up to Ferrus's true belief that "I have the strength because I am human, not because I have these arms" but they also see that he fricking died because he thought that.
Iron Hands got the worst and most inconsistent writing in the entire HH series. His character and strengths are just all over the place >From harsh warrior-god obsessed with personal growth -- to a grumpy mechanic who makes moronic decisions and purposefully gets his allies killed >From Horus nearly getting beat to death trying to convince him to join the heresy -- to Fulgrim beating him to unconsciousness and killing half his terminators on the way out >From possibly surviving the dropsite massacre -- to being killed by Fulgrim, contradicting his early descriptions and feats more suiting a close combat monstrosity (like 1v1ing the fricking Emperor to a draw, which is still canon for some reason) >From the loyalist version of Horus -- to the loyalist version of Perturabo >Stated to be the tallest and strongest primarch up until Vulkan got his books >The silver wyrm he killed was confirmed to not be necron which is just moronic
They turned him into the Worf of 40k. His purpose is to job to show how strong the bad guys are
Oh definitely. Fulgrim even keeps having fabulous bile make clones of ferrus over and over again so he can try to convince ferrus to go chaos. It always ends with the ferrus clone telling Fulgrim to go frick himself and Fulgrim chopping his head off just like the original.
>It always ends with the ferrus clone telling Fulgrim to go frick himself and Fulgrim chopping his head off just like the original.
Before or after fricking xirself?
Guilliman assuming the Emperor was dead and setting up his own Imperium rather than mobilizing to help the actual Imperium could very easily be construed as treason.
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lol. first homie to try it is meeting oblivion instead of the emperor. long jonson is back too so there's no chance for it to be used in any real capacity, not that girlyman takes pride in that time anyway. not to say it won't make a plot point in some schlock novel.
>badab war >moronic
You mean a guy declaring himself the lord of a separatist little empire and attacking-on-sight? Man, the imperium sure was in the wrong when they went to forcefully check what was going on and it was nothing but preparing for war and HERESY.
I remember seeing a Nurgle version, is there one for the other two Gods aswell?
11 months ago
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Just these two, unfortunately.
11 months ago
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Shame, I'm fascinated to know what a Tzeentch corrupted sister looks like. And of course, compare the breasts of the Khornate and Slaanesh Sisters
11 months ago
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Tzeentch seems the least compatible with SoB of them all. Birches are obsessed with becoming martyrs over everything else. They don't want to make anything better at all, they don't want the power to change anything because becoming a martyr is already the best possible outcome to them.
11 months ago
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Tzeentch is gay and so are his followers
11 months ago
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>appear gay when youa re straight
yes, all according to keikaku
11 months ago
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Maybe they want to become a martyr in the most useful (Tzeentch lie) way. I just want to see them with feathers tbh
11 months ago
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Just these two, unfortunately.
may I see it?
11 months ago
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>Khorne doesn't care from the blood flows only that it flows >Female
I am surprised khorne doesn't corrupt sisters more often given they go into a red rage every month
11 months ago
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sisters are supposed to be incorruptible.
11 months ago
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A lot of things are supposed to be a lot of things.
11 months ago
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a twist is not in and of itself a good thing
11 months ago
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>The Emprah being kept alive by the WAAAAAAGH is stupid
Nuh-uh.
11 months ago
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yes-uh
11 months ago
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Isn't he dead?
11 months ago
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No. He's a perpetual. If he died he would resurrect.
He got hurt as bad as he could to not kill him, and his body was strapped to a magic space chair that keeps him alive to power the astronomicon. The key to orientation in the warp.
If the emperor dies and stops powering it for an instant then every ship across the galaxy in travel at that moment would be fricked, and no one would be able to navigate, cutting everyone off from everyone else unless they're really close together naturally.
Besides that, he's also keeping a massive rift in the warp from opening up under him, swallowing terra and mars, and handing the game to chaos.
UNLESS the keikaku is that the emperor is trying to turn into a warp god himself.
11 months ago
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Not him. Malcador.
11 months ago
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He got turned to dust, but a portion of his soul stayed in his staff and protected the head Librarian of the ultramarines when he tried to psychically confront the tyranid hivemind
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>UNLESS the keikaku is that the emperor is trying to turn into a warp god himself.
that's exactly what's happening, if the latest books are to be believed
11 months ago
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>>that's exactly what's happening, if the latest books are to be believed
Let's say the EMPRAH turns into a Chaos God. Then what?
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Literally nothing changes.
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Khorne and Nurgle in headlocks under both arms while he snaps Tzeentch's bird neck between his thighs. Refuses to make physical contact with Slaanesh.
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Not a chaos god but a warp god, like the eldar ones.
His original plan to move humans into the webway to starve the gods failed and his new plan is just fricking them up since he got so powerful from thousands of years of worship.
11 months ago
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It's alright, as long as The Emperor can find a way to channel the chaotic energies fed to him by humanity in a way that can cause a -
I mean, is chaos really THAT bad?
HERETIC
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>powerful enough to physically wound Nurgle >Still can't fix his own toilet seat
The frick are you doing Big E
11 months ago
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>The frick are you doing Big E
He's kinda gone insane from millennia of getting giga-tortured and force-fed billions of souls and fighting chaos.
11 months ago
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And crying all the time
11 months ago
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He's going to regenerate when Leviathan reaches Terra
Shadow in the Warp is going to frick with the Throne, giving Emp time to regenerate but also opens the Webway gate which will result in the Khan riding to the rescue through the Webway while being chased by Vashtorr, Abaddon, and rapesnake Fulgrim
11 months ago
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he can fix the toilet, but getting off of it means an eye of Terror forms around Sol.
11 months ago
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Considering the bureaucracy, it might even be an improvement. Even Tzeentch ought to run things better.
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>emps becomes warp god >metaphysically kicks the shit out of the other 4 >warp is safe for now >builds the new webway anyway to completely cut humans from warp >rebukes humanity >disperses himself for good
would be kino
11 months ago
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himself for good
Well that was kinda his plan at the start anyway.
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>Let's say the EMPRAH turns into a Chaos God. Then what?
"Chaos God" is just a name for powerful beings that live in the warp. The Emps could become a Warp God, Gork/Mork are Warp Gods, everything could be a Warp God.
Knowing GWS and their shit tier story handling when they decide money is not shoving into their faces fast enough what will happen next is every Chaos God will merge into one being and the Emperor will also become a Warp God and now they're all fighting in the Warp so every single tabletop army needs to be replaced with Warp variants.
Buy our *NEW* and improved WARP MARINES, WARP ELDER and WARP ORK, $99.99 for a box of 3.
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Gay furry homosexuals, make way for the real death squad >The Wolf King boasted to all that he was his father's executioner. >He was a deterrent, a hound to snarl from behind a sealed gate, never to be unleashed. What the Lion was to his father did not speak its name so brazenly. >For where Russ was a warning, the Lion was a solution. The final solution. >He was the Emperor’s exterminator. What the honour of Russ would not abide he would sanction without hesitation. >The enemy who might yet be integrated, the adversary whose misguided but noble resistance might be canonised in posterity, these were wars for his brothers to wage. When the First Legion turned their guns upon a foe it was to annihilate without trace, to obliterate beyond all hope of record.
>That was the purpose for which the Dark Angels were created and it was the reason that He made them first.
11 months ago
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only nulls are incorruptible, regular sisters are meant to be hard to corrupt but can fall to chaos
11 months ago
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GK and custards are also incorruptible
11 months ago
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GK and custodes are expensive and handcrafted to serve the emperor. A rank and file sister of battle isn't on their level
11 months ago
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GKs and Custodes are mary sues and should be deleted from the setting
11 months ago
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Custodes aren't Mary Sues, they literally failed their primary goal
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>GK and custards are also incorruptible
homie nulls don't have souls, they can't be corrupted.
miriel is a regular SoB by the way and not a SoS.
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>daemons of khorne are gonna eat you out like ice cream sandwiches when your red rage begins
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>Khorne doesn't care from the blood flows only that it flows >Female
I am surprised khorne doesn't corrupt sisters more often given they go into a red rage every month
the whence the blood flows part means that khorne doesn't care if the blood comes from one of his own followers or an enemy, or even a warrior, as long as it's spilled violently.
that was the whole khorne frickery with angron from the choral engine.
pretty gay but they needed to boost khorne's forces because the whole thing was about angron coming back to fight roboute.
His feats were literally unachievable by any other character than a videogame protagonist, and one of the space marines thought that something was fishy and called the inquisition. It's not necessarily a bad thing to call the inquisition to inspect for heresy after a space marine literally goes toe-to-toe with daemons and chaos space marines but nobody really knew that he probably had assistance from the Emperor because of his faith.
I always wondered if Leandros calling Inquisition was a matter of the writers forgetting about the codex saying that Librarians should be dealing with potential chaos corruption or if it was intentional to drive the point that Leandros was a moron.
Considering the whole point was "Don't blindly follow the codex you stupid fricking narc" it was probably intentional
If they wanted to stick to the original story and eventually make him go renegade/start his own renegade chapter it would make more sense to jump straight for the inqusition too. Gotta give him more of a reason to do things than just ultramarine infighting
You think Leandros’ is going to get any flak for that? I mean in the latest trailer it’s hinted that Titus was recently reintroduced so he was most likely punished.
>Titus is now a Primaris.
If anything he got a huge fricking promotion in the interim and it's only inquisitorial dickwaving that was preventing his full reinstatement until the nids showed up.
If the inquisition did find something odd about his warp resistance, the absolute worst they could divine would be that he is a latent psyker.
Nah Titus is a Lieutenant now instead of a Captain. And from the trailer it sounds like whoever is in charge is suspicious of Titus still, and Titus is still on thin fricking ice with the brass of both the Ultras, Militarum, and Inquisition for whatever was decided about him and the fact he's returned is a point of contention for the leadership on the planet being invaded whether they can trust him.
lieutenants are higher ranking than captains in space marines the squeakwel: this time they're spacier
this is possibly a joke about the fact that all the military terminology is basically completely wrong in warhammer but it is far more likely that the writers were fricking moronic, since they thought primaris was a good idea in the first place
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>lieutenants are higher ranking than captains in space marines the squeakwel:
No they aren't, Big Blue's reforms added two lieutenants let company under the captain.
>The guy so adamant about adhering to the codex is also the guy that completely missed the part in the codex where you first consult the Chaplain/Librarians.
Sounds about right, doesn´t it. In his rampant rule lawyering he forgot to actually read the damn thing he is quoting.
If the emperor himself granted his favor upon him, then he just accept any faith he will have... even if the inquisition find him guilty, that will be revised by orher inquisitors and if they discover satanist taint on then. Well you know the deal maximun punishment until full repent.... anyways the thing is: if he is punished and killed by Inquisitorium, and them is proved that he was assisted by the divine Emperor, he will be santified and glorified as a Martyr.
It's already been done before with Captain Lysander, who went missing in the warp for a bit, let himself get probed for corruption and was declared clean.
>3(mostly one) marines stop an entire ork waaagh, kill hundreds of chaos space marines and demons, and go toe to toe with a demon prince in close combat without a scratch.
I'd have found that a little hard to believe too, but yeah, i'd have told the chaplain not the inquisition
His homosexual underling screwed him over and went against protocol because he had the audacity not to blindly worship/follow the space book that their gene dad wrote as a simple guide.
1) he's an Ultra smurf so he deserves it
2) he and he alone has constant success in a world where getting groceries and putting the kettle on is accompanied by scores of fallen allies and grim darkness.
And noone is that lucky.
i don't understand the warhammer world, like, how are the humans still alive? how are there any of them left? are they all like mormons and just frick like crazy all the time and spit out kids on conveyor belts, or something? they have to, after all, because you can't have human armies be mown down 24/7 and not replace them, right?
The short answer is dont worry about it. There's as many humans as the story needs
The long answer is there's thousands of planets dedicated purely to holding hundreds of billions of humans that do essentially pump out kids as early as possible. Life is cheap and only a few other races in the setting are actually keeping up with them in terms of population growth
even the 40k writing fail to grasp the scale of the setting they are working on
you could have an entire planet thats just miles of factories manufacturing a single part for a single weapon
entire galaxy of planets all a (relatively) quick warp jump between any of them
a single hive city can contain billions of citizens. a planet can have several hive cities. The imperial guard will draft millions of people when it needs more regiments. people are treated as disposable and if you step out of line you can be turned into someone's new CPU.
They're alive because of extremely brutal pragmatism and their entire galaxy spanning civilization is dedicated to the sole purpose of waging a war for survival.
>people are treated as disposable and if you step out of line you can be turned into someone's new CPU.
not really the case. data/rule book fluff > novels.
random chuckle fricks don't get made into servitors as a rule. it's for criminals, and only the worst of them.
11 months ago
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>Steals bread
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>Attention Citizen you have been sentenced to 427 death sentences to be served consecutively
11 months ago
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the black library and it's effects have been a disaster for 40k
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>you now remember the number of '''fans''' who don't know that the majority of servitors are vat-grown husks
I'd blame youtube ''''loremasters'''' and their shitty clickbait myself >Broooo mass stroggification brooo like they just kidnap people off the street and turn them into living hell downie robots brooo
11 months ago
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actually, i like the OLDER lore, that servitors are all ex criminals, their sentences for crimes that don't warrant immediate death being reduced to servitor-dom.
11 months ago
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Secondary here, why?
11 months ago
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because 40k writers are awful
11 months ago
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i-i like phil kelly
11 months ago
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There's some good gems, pic related is a good one until the White Scars do time travel shenanigans with an Iyanden Farseer to prevent Genestealers inviting Tyranids.
11 months ago
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bread is a valuable commodity depending on the planet
11 months ago
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Pretty much this.
If some rando fricks up in a factory and accidentally drops a shell casing, he'll probably just have a 1.5x increase in his shift (at least 24 hours of work a day) and his family's rations halved for a while. If he or they drop dead, they get made into more rations and are so easily replaced it makes you wonder why they weren't turned into corpse starch sooner.
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le corpse starch in itself has been memed to hell. Yeah it's used as a low-quality shitty emergency ration but there are entire star systems worth of agri worlds dedicated to sending *actual* food (albeit processed to hell) to hive worlds.
11 months ago
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I'd say nutrient paste instead, but that's too boring and generic scifi, at least corpse starch is sort of funny, even if it is a onions green ripoff.
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>random chuckle fricks don't get made into servitors as a rule. it's for criminals, and only the worst of them
lol, sweet sommer child.
there is a planet that is essentially one big hospital for soldiers with PTSD and for some reason it also supplies all servitors to its system.
11 months ago
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the black library and it's effects have been a disaster for 40k
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>that time a planet was being evacuated and a nearby forgeworld offered to take in all their refugees as long as they can turn them into servitors
say it wasn't too bad for the first 30.000 years that's a lot of
so if we game them an increase of 0,15% over those first 30k years then one person would multiply into 33,776,052,254,145,885,080.9
so we'd have some spares.
By the time the emperor shows up and starts the current era humanity had already grown to a galactic power, and fallen. There are worlds all over the galaxy and when the emperor began his crusade he was trying to find and unite all these colonies.
In current era, they literally have no idea how many planets or people are actually in the imperium, entire sectors can become lost because some tertiary adjunct to a a file clerk assigned to some local governor filed some papers wrong.
Each planet in the imperium is also required to produce an annual tithe. This can be money, food, resources, tools, etc. If you're a shithole of a planet with nothing of value, you pay the tithe with warm bodies. Most of them go to the IG to become cannon fodder.
one planet is nothing to the great Imperium, does make me wonder how humanity has reached literally trillions and trillions in population when the universe in general is so unbelievably fricked up
At the current point in the setting it's mostly because the Emperor managed to set up the basework of the imperium so thoroughly that even the High Lords can't frick it up.
In addition, it's not just humans that are constantly fricked over by the setting, everyone alive is fricked over by the setting.
>does make me wonder how humanity has reached literally trillions and trillions in population when the universe in general is so unbelievably fricked up
Because of the Golden Age of AI and technology which came before 40k and saw humanity conquer the entire known universe literally 3D printing entire civilizations on infinite worlds, even the Eldar were no match and had AI not gone rogue the entire setting would have been >Humans discover AI >Humans win galaxy
But those idiots forgot to make AI subservient. The AI rose up, the dark ages began and everything went to shit until the Emperor came and tried to save humanity from being wiped out.
Its honestly a masterclass in good writing that even people who love 40k don't realize that before the Emperor humanity was actually fine and was conquering everything with science, not religion. The whole concept of the Inquisition and Emperor = God and you must serve blindly with faith is so convincing people think its truly the best option. Had the Emperor promoted controlled science instead of religious fanaticism Chaos never would have gotten this strong.
>But those idiots forgot to make AI subservient
They did make AI subservient lmao. The robutts were their slaves for thousands and thousands of years and the idea that DAoT humanity wouldn't have implanted them with a three-laws equivalent is absurd.
The point is that the AI rose up anyway. Which is why AI is seen as inherently corruptible and dangerous and ultimately uncontrollable.
>They did make AI subservient lmao
No they tried and failed, its a significant difference. They thought they had made them subservient. >the idea that DAoT humanity wouldn't have implanted them with a three-laws equivalent is absurd.
Thats your own fanfiction, and not the actual lore.
>bros trust religion! >humanity did better with science >chaos is limited by science >even big e just loved science >bias led to religion
Just like real life
Yeah they were conquering with science right up until science decided to turbogenocide them.
>Had the Emperor promoted controlled science instead of religious fanaticism Chaos never would have gotten this strong
Are you moronic or just a secondary? The Emperor mandated state-enforced atheism during the Great Crusade. He constantly denied he was a god. He punished one of his own superhuman primarch generals for spreading the idea that he was a god. Look how that worked out for him.
>The point is that the AI rose up anyway. Which is why AI is seen as inherently corruptible and dangerous and ultimately uncontrollable.
There is a special form of irony for people who fall for fictional settings propaganda
Yeah they were conquering with science right up until science decided to turbogenocide them.
>Had the Emperor promoted controlled science instead of religious fanaticism Chaos never would have gotten this strong
Are you moronic or just a secondary? The Emperor mandated state-enforced atheism during the Great Crusade. He constantly denied he was a god. He punished one of his own superhuman primarch generals for spreading the idea that he was a god. Look how that worked out for him.
>before the Emperor humanity was actually fine and was conquering everything with science, not religion
Conquering things with science is what led to the human empire getting buttfricked by Old Night and then again during the Great Crusade. Meanwhile given that moronicly zealous belief in the Emperor as a god allows non-psykers to set daemons on fire and banish them to space hell, maybe the Emperor actually /should/ have run his Imperium on religious zealotry to defeat Chaos rather than sciencing the galaxy to thousands of years of shit. Again.
The Emperor's entire science based plan was to starve out the Chaos gods by denying them worship. But you correctly point out that the Chaos gods are primarily empowered by emotions rather than worship. Thus the Emperor's plan to make them go away by denying anyone knowledge of them was doomed to fail. Again, believing in the Emperor actually allows people to fight Chaos without needing to be psykers. Clearly believing in the Emperor is a better weapon than hurr durr atheism to beat Chaos (which failed multiple times)
You are literally making up story elements that never happened. He never had a science plan, tried to deny their existence or make anyone believe in him as a God.
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His entire Great Crusade was an atheistic plan to defeat Chaos with the power of rationality. What the frick are you on about?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You actually need to go read 40k you have no idea what you're posting
11 months ago
Anonymous
What are you talking? From the novels >I have conquered humanity’s cradle-world. I have conquered the galaxy, in order to shape mankind’s development as it at last evolves into a psychic race. No isolated pockets of our species may remain free, lest in their ignorance they invite destruction upon us all. I have shattered the hold of faith and fear over the human mind. Superstition and religion must continue to be outlawed, for they are easy doors for the warp’s denizens to enter the human heart. This is what we have already done. And soon I will offer humanity a way of interstellar travel without reliance upon Geller fields and Navigators. I will offer them means of communicating between worlds without reliance on the warp-dreams of astropaths. And when the Imperium shields the entire species within the laws of my Pax Imperialis, when humanity is freed from the warp and united beneath my vision, I can at last shepherd mankind’s growth into a psychic race.
The Emperor's plan was to use the webway to cut reliance on navigators and astropaths, and easily establish a galactic empire like the Eldar used to have. His plan for Chaos was the enforced atheism
11 months ago
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>He never [...] tried to deny their existence
Fricking what? The Emperor never told anyone about Chaos. That's the entire reason so many of the Primarchs turned traitor, they had no idea what they were dealing with. Him not telling anyone about Chaos is one of the Emperor's primary mistakes, and one of the central reasons the Horus Heresy happens. You're either trolling or a genuinely moronic secondary.
11 months ago
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>'I prepared them all, this pantheon of proud godlings that insist they are my heirs. I warned them of the warp’s perils. Coupled with this, they knew of those dangers themselves. The Imperium has relied on Navigators to sail the stars and astropaths to communicate between worlds since the empire’s very first breath. The Imperium itself is only possible because of those enduring souls. No void sailor or psychically touched soul can help but know of the warp’s insidious predation. Ships have always been lost during their unstable journeys. Astropaths have always suffered for their powers. Navigators have always seen horrors swimming through those strange tides. I commanded the cessation of Legion Librarius divisions as a warning against the unrestrained use of psychic power. One of our most precious technologies, the Geller field, exists to shield vessels from the warp’s corrosive touch. These are not secrets, Ra, nor mystical lore known only to a select few. Even possession by warp-wrought beings is not unknown. The Sixteenth witnessed it with his own eyes long before he convinced his kindred to walk a traitor’s path with him. That which we call the warp is a universe alongside our own, seething with limitless, alien hostility. The primarchs have always known this. What difference would it have made had I labelled the warp’s entities “daemons” or “dark gods”?'
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I warned them of the warp’s perils
I'm coping here but this isn't exactly an explicit confirmation he told them about Chaos itself, just 'the Warp is bad and don't touch it'. There's a difference.
Anon, ALL of the Primarchs knew of Chaos they just didn't realise they were being corrupted by it. Not knowing =/= not understanding. You are a mong.
>ALL of the Primarchs knew of Chaos
Did they? Lorgar's entire character is him getting rejected by the Emperor then discovering the existence of the Chaos Gods. If he knew about Chaos already why would he have to send men into the Eye of Terror and deduce their existence?
>Him not telling anyone about Chaos is one of the Emperor's primary mistakes
You've made this up in your head as canon without knowing the books or reading a single page. He made mistakes but he never, ever, denied the existence of Chaos.
>never, ever, denied the existence of Chaos
The Imperial Truth, the propaganda for the masses, explicity says there are no Gods.
11 months ago
Anonymous
read
>'I prepared them all, this pantheon of proud godlings that insist they are my heirs. I warned them of the warp’s perils. Coupled with this, they knew of those dangers themselves. The Imperium has relied on Navigators to sail the stars and astropaths to communicate between worlds since the empire’s very first breath. The Imperium itself is only possible because of those enduring souls. No void sailor or psychically touched soul can help but know of the warp’s insidious predation. Ships have always been lost during their unstable journeys. Astropaths have always suffered for their powers. Navigators have always seen horrors swimming through those strange tides. I commanded the cessation of Legion Librarius divisions as a warning against the unrestrained use of psychic power. One of our most precious technologies, the Geller field, exists to shield vessels from the warp’s corrosive touch. These are not secrets, Ra, nor mystical lore known only to a select few. Even possession by warp-wrought beings is not unknown. The Sixteenth witnessed it with his own eyes long before he convinced his kindred to walk a traitor’s path with him. That which we call the warp is a universe alongside our own, seething with limitless, alien hostility. The primarchs have always known this. What difference would it have made had I labelled the warp’s entities “daemons” or “dark gods”?'
and stop trying to change as setting to save face
11 months ago
Anonymous
My apologies anonymous but you've been drawn into arguing with a moron who is just going to stamp his feet and repeat "read the books! read the books!" while misciting the Emperor lamenting his failures to Ra from MoM.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>MoM
Gay ADBBlack person daddy issues shit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No worries, anyone reduced to citing an ADB novel to prove his point has already lost the argument, morally at least. It was an excuse to break out the Black Books again at least
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The Imperial Truth, the propaganda for the masses, explicity says there are no Gods.
There aren't any. Chaos gods is a misnomer. They're just out of control entities.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Semantic games. The point is they are metaphysical beings, not some kind of understandable flesh and blood alien species.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and they knew warp beings existed and that the warp was dangerous. Semantics is needing to call it "chaos" and them "gods" when there's other names already used for them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The point of the warp is that it makes it impossible to actually know of the gods are actual entities or sentient concepts or whatever
40k lore in any case is flexible and you can draw your own conclusions.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only difference between Khorne and a Bloodthirster is scale. Same for the other 3.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This is like telling your kids, hey the ocean is scary. There's big sharks and killer whales that will eat you. Then forgetting to tell them that Cthulhu and Dagon are real and will frick you up.
11 months ago
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His only mistake was his trust in his sons really. He told them to reject everything unknown. It shouldn't matter if they actually knew about chaos, they did know he was giga brained and all he did had a purpose. The only one that's kind of excusable is Horus since he got that shit mainlined.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, ALL of the Primarchs knew of Chaos they just didn't realise they were being corrupted by it. Not knowing =/= not understanding. You are a mong.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They didnt know about the gods specifically, all they knew is that the warp was populated by hostile "xenos" and shit, not even Magnus knew.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Him not telling anyone about Chaos is one of the Emperor's primary mistakes
You've made this up in your head as canon without knowing the books or reading a single page. He made mistakes but he never, ever, denied the existence of Chaos.
They're empowered by emotions but they only exist as thoughtforms. The warp is just a dark mirror. If the man in the mirror starts talking to you you take your fricking meds, you don't take its advice to murder your family. Emps wanted everyone to deny them entirely because it starves them (and really pisses them off besides.)
11 months ago
Anonymous
Shame about that innate human need to worship something more meaningful than "science!"
11 months ago
Anonymous
you think too highly of yourself and too little of others.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>innate human need to worship something
Religious-cucks trying desperately to correlate science fiction and reality.
I dunno man the humies seem to do a little better when they're channeling those emotions in the right direction
You don't get living saints and dedicated motherfrickers by being an emotionless husk
The timeline is fuzzy, but the reason the DAOT ended is at least partially because of the warp storms created by the gestation of Slaanesh; Slaanesh being born and ending the Eldar Empire is what stopped the warp storms and allowed space travel again. That's when the Emperor started up the Great Crusade. So that would mean the DAOT and Eldar Empire coexisted. The way fans rationalize this is that the Eldar didn't give a shit about humans, and also that their empire was more localized in the webway and what would what become the eye of terror. This is contradicted by some text that says their empire stretched across the galaxy, but GW sucks at keeping this straight so who knows
With eldar traveling everywhere by webway and humans using the warp and with how much actual space there is between stars, it's entirely possible for the 2 empires to look like they overlap the galactic map but actually rarely come into actual contact.
Death corps using melee that much is just a meme for the most part, not like they hold back on a ordered charge, but its not like they blindly come running out of the trenches they dug.
Catachans are full on rambo with big dick knives.
Catachans however very much would do that, accurate.
off the top of my head >catachan jungle fighters, as previously mentioned. >kanak skull-takers, bunch of barbarian grugs from a primitive world who like to take skulls for the emperor and *not* khorne >brontian longknives, classic fallout-style urban tribals from a hive world, really like knives >tallarn desert raiders, brave mujahideen fighters specializing in mobile ambush tactics with their cool curved knives, lot like the fremen from dune >any given conscript/hive-based regiment, hiver thugs are desperate and moronic and know how to beat each other with big sticks
it sucks yea. the regiments made up for the only war RPG have to be my favorites. maccabian jannisaries are dope as frick and pull off the "spooky masked soldier" look better than the kriegers do.
i really liked the mordian iron guard. their novel is one of my favorites. i keep thinking about getting into the miniatures and trying to kitbash something to resemble them.
>Titus pinned down by the Nid menace >suddenly an Ultramarines drop pod crashes down between the encroaching swarm and Titus >pod bursts open and a tactical squad bursts out and begins blasting the Tyranids back >Titus' voxlink crackles >"Leaving the Emperor's service so soon, Titus?" >Lieutenant Leandros emerges from the drop pod, war weathered and grizzled, face half replaced with bionics >non-metal half of his face grins >"The Codex Astartes does not approve of this course of action." >turns and issues unconventional orders to the squad of Ultramarines, blowing up a mountainside or something to route the Tyranid swarm for a time
>Leandros continues to invoke the codex >Thrax shows up with 4 fricking Black Templar in tow, a Chapter that completely ignores the codex >Titus comes back with a chain around his arm and an Inquisitorial I
Thrax must be based as hell for an Inquisitor I'm sure they became friends
Thrax seemed pretty chill for an inquisitor. He even asked leandros if he is sure about the accusations and doesn't bother to disarm Titus. Probably didn't believe leandros for a second but figured this was a chance to a space marine captain to work for him personally to prove his innocence.
I want Leandros to come back in SM2. he was young and a fricking idiot, he should have a redemption arc, not just be hand waved or fricking murked because people don't like him.
No. They enslave, torture, and eat people. They don't just roll in and kill you for funsies while giggling like British soccer hooligans.
Would it be better to be enslaved by ork invaders than Dark Eldar or Slaaneshi Chaos Marines? Undoubtedly. But you're still in for a horrible time.
Orks will gladly butcher you for fun, eat your limbs and kick your head around like a ball, and during the era of the Beast where Orks became so staggeringly organized and intelligent, they enslaved humans as livestock.
>"Emperor protects men, and if he forgets, at least the xenos will just eat you and it'll be over quickl-" >gets sprayed down by a nasty green sludge that's actually a swarm of tens of thousands of tiny little bugs that burrow into his flesh and eat him from the inside out while shitting out a toxin that melts his body into sludge over the span of several agonizingly long minutes, if not 15 or so >"MORALE BROKEN!" as the sergeant's horrific screams turn into struggling gurgles
Xenos in 40k don't have the proper neurons to feel empathy for other species, mirror neurons or whatever they're called, I'm a brainlet. Humans are the exception and its basically been trained out of them and the Tau are freaks of nature in that department.
The most reasonable aliens, all things considered are the Necrons, surprisingly.
Orks will flat out torture women and children because they know it will get humans riled up and angry. In Fantasy, Orcs are flat out implied to rape people for sport. The Emperor of Mankind didn't wipe out a few million alien races just for the shit of it or for Le Evil reasons. He got a psychic knife to the nuts a trillion times over when the Dark age began. Even Eldar were capturing humans to torture/eat/watch kill one another when their defenses fell.
Hardly, they might make a elaborate blood sacrifice out of you while screaming if you weren´t charging them and got mowed down right away, not to forget that by murderizing you they would condemn your soul to Khorne.
>"Emperor protects men, and if he forgets, at least the xenos will just eat you and it'll be over quickl-" >gets sprayed down by a nasty green sludge that's actually a swarm of tens of thousands of tiny little bugs that burrow into his flesh and eat him from the inside out while shitting out a toxin that melts his body into sludge over the span of several agonizingly long minutes, if not 15 or so >"MORALE BROKEN!" as the sergeant's horrific screams turn into struggling gurgles
I don't see why the Craftworld Eldar would make a show of murdering me if they just want the land. I'd rather have my brain efficiently popped by some space elf's psyker power and be done with it than be enslaved by authoritarian space fishman.
Does Tau brainwashing work on non-Taus? Human colonists they've taken into their empire have betrayed them. Vespid were on board with the greater good from the moment they first made contact. Kroot are cool with anyone, Askellian policy even says "kill them last," Tau are simply the most likely to hire mercs from outside their own species.
The best ACTUAL choice is getting invaded by another human but non-Imperial and non-Chaos faction which canonically is the vast majority of conflicts the Imperium gets involved in, and the ones where THEY are the overpowered high-tech side with all the overwhelming machines and firepower.
But an Imperial Guard task force swiftly quelling the Rebellion of Bumfrick Farmers #256236 doesn't make for interesting codex stories.
The spacemarine 2 boltgun sounded kind of underpowered in one of the trailers.
What weapon sounds from other vidya games would you replace the sound with?
For me it's the Prodeus shotgun I think it is fitting for a boltgun sound.
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I don't mind having my taste BTFO'd by better examples.
yeah they goofed hard even by their standards
the game is now where it should have been at launch putting them at least 9 months behind schedule which is infuriating
He'd be perfect to play Caiaphas Caine.
But also no, it's not gonna be good because whoever they get to write it will.look at the setting as something childish and immature which is ultimately beneath them.
>Spess muhreens get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war >Orks get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war >Even Tau get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war
Eldar protagonist soloing an entire planet when? JUst kidding, that would need GW to remember they exist
To be fair, a single planet isn't that big for the empire and Chaos is very insidious. Titus is pretty cool but it does seem really weird that he just manifested random powers out of nowhere. For all we know, it could be a ploy of the Dark Powers. Plus, the fact Titus is around in the sequel probably means the Inquisition wasn't too moronic.
>Watcher in the rain >Inquistor in training is tested by by having to torture and interrogate a suspected heretic >Beats the absolute shit out of her >It turns out to be his mother >Gets told she was never actually a suspect and was innocent this whole time, just a test of his loyalty >his reaction to this information is *shrugs*
>Spess muhreens get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war >Orks get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war >Even Tau get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war
Eldar protagonist soloing an entire planet when? JUst kidding, that would need GW to remember they exist
I like how the MC of fire warrier is a freak even by 40k standards as you kill a fricking ton of things that a single fire warrior has no chance at killing like dreadnaughts and Chaos marines and the Tau afterwards are like "how?"
Who would win in a fight? >a legion of chaos marines who betrayed the emperor during the horus heresy, some obliterators, a few dreadnaughts, a couple daemon princes, a chaos spawn, and a lord of change: the embodiment of the infinite eyes of tzeentch, an ever-changing form that defies all mortal logic
or >ONE (1) singular Shas'La unit, the lowest rank in the Tau fire caste
11 months ago
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>Khrone himself has blessed him
11 months ago
Anonymous
I like how the MC of fire warrier is a freak even by 40k standards as you kill a fricking ton of things that a single fire warrior has no chance at killing like dreadnaughts and Chaos marines and the Tau afterwards are like "how?"
Even in the still canon Fire Warrior novel his enemies and allies still think of him as a freak because he has the same body count as an FPS protagonist
11 months ago
Anonymous
to be fair he is what happens when Khorne decides it'd be funny to buff the hell out of a tau
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's hilarious. I heard the game's bad but is the novel any good?
11 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't read the game tie in novel but the character does appear in one other book and he's literally a shadow the edgehog-tier character.
It's kinda funny.
Eh, I think deldar would translate into vidya far better. Picture a game like Mad Max, but on Imperial World #42046 where you play as a kabalite and come blasting out of the webway on a raider, gunning down militia with your other dudes and looting everything & everyone that isn't bolted down. You then return to Commoragh to race/slaughter other psychopaths on hellions through impossible interdimensional geometry for the glory of fighting in an arena or something. Tack on a story where you rise up in the ranks of your kabal through the usual deldar means of cunning assassination to become Archon, and you have at least a 7/10 game, easily.
Titus cannot be a blank. They don't make blanks into Space Marines and it's not something that nobody would notice from just being around Titus, let alone all the screenings and shit they do while inducting new Marines.
Titus is likely blessed by the Emperor or something. So yes, MC protection.
Anti-Psyker. Psykers can draw the power of the warp into reality because they have extra powerful souls. Blanks have anti-souls that allow them to cancel out warp activity in their vicinity. Their anti-souls also make everyone with a normal soul feel uncomfortable around them so everyone hates them.
Someone completely immune to psychic powers, like the reverse of a psyker. People around them get uncomfortable, psykers can't read their mind and every psychic phenomena around them fails.
Any psyker can recognize a blank once they look at someone and figure out they can't read their mind.
Lel most psykers of value literally fall to the ground and have a seizure when in the presence of a blank, they don't generally need to find out by trying and failing to read their minds.
Basically someone who is invisible to the warp.
They're immune to chaos, but are identified by sending out this vibe that makes everyone around them hate and mistrust them on instinct.
The idea is all humans are on some degree sensitive to the immaterium, and it sets off all kinds of subconscious red flags when you find someone who has no presence.
They're super rate, and end up being shipped off to help with the inquisition or the officio assassinorium to be a culex assassin.
>so is he a blank
no, the chapter Librarians wouldve picked up on that when he was a neophyte asap he would not make the rank of Lt. or (i assume it was a temp brevet) Captain
Blame Leandros for being a moronic nark who didn't read the codex he harped constantly about. You keep that shit in the chapter and talk to a Chaplain. You don't get the frickheads in the Inquisition involved
are the tau just the generic good guy option? they seem to ignore the warhammer trope of just being brutally efficiency focused while fighting for survival/enjoyment that all the other races seem to pursue. Is this also why they're very often disliked as i've seen?
Tau used to be played in the lore as "optimistic newcomers about to be crushed by the grimdark realities of the galaxy" but eventually moved into "sketchy authoritarian hierarchy society where big brother uses pheromones to make sure the greater good goes according to plan"
Kinda like Animal Farm in space
yeah tau are just "dystopian" commies in a galaxy full of things a million times worse, and hey get a lot more attention than they should for such a relatively small faction compared to literally anything else in the series
Ethereal Control - This concept was introduced after fans complained that the initial T'au codex described the T'au in too much of a positive light, and that they were too "good" for the grim, dark Warhammer 40,000 universe.
literally "this is why we cant have nice things" lmfao
yeah tau are just "dystopian" commies in a galaxy full of things a million times worse, and hey get a lot more attention than they should for such a relatively small faction compared to literally anything else in the series
Tau were originally introduced as a legit 'good guy' faction in the setting where they actually tried things like 'diplomacy' instead of murdering anything different on sight. They were also blatantly created to pander to the mecha/weeb audience with their heavy emphasis on battlesuits. On the table they had amazing shooting, but all Tau species models have shit melee to compensate, needing alien auxiliaries to have any melee presence. They also had some pretty bullshit tactics they could use like Fish of Fury where you could park 2 squads of Tau infantry behind some transports and make them essentially unhittable in melee due to fricky rules interactions with Tau vechicles.
Basically when they were first introduced people hated them because they were different thematically to other factions, their visual design was obviously trying to catch mechagays, and their tabletop presence was very annoying and many WAACgays flocked to the faction due to their extremely strong shooting.
>They also had some pretty bullshit tactics they could use like Fish of Fury where you could park 2 squads of Tau infantry behind some transports and make them essentially unhittable in melee due to fricky rules interactions with Tau vechicles.
never before or since has a faction/tactic caused so much TT seethe, except maybe the Iron hands periodically just being brokenly OP
and not 40k but OG The Dreaded 13th Spell getting used on lords also caused a lot of aneurysms
They even now had a "kill on sight" list that includes Orks, Chaos, Tyranids and Dark Eldar (originally it was all Eldar, but the Craftworlders corrected them after stopping a genocide in a Maiden World)
Space marine is a mediocre third person action game that was written by devs who knew very little about WH40k lore other then "space marines are kinda sorta like beefy halo spartans"
The thing is that wh40k fanboys are in the same bin as sonic the hedgehog fans, there has not been a single good 40k game or adaption In nearly 40 years, so when something mediocre comes along that isn't complete trash or shovelware they will praise it to the high hevans as a classic.
>Single handedly wins WW2 >Chemically castrated and killed for it
The Imperium being held together by valiant people only to be fricked by the government is accurate
>gays still cry for this homo >the chad sikhs underwent the castration willingly and are held up proudly
They could have picked a better liege, true, but the melodrama on this homosexual is dumb.
If I remember correctly, Horus even calls out Erebus as a deceiving liar while they're in the vision showing the 40k future and... goes with it anyways lmao
>Magnus, the second most powerful psyker in the imperium shows up and tells him that Erebus and the four obviously evil warp farts are evil >Horus just ignores him and goes along with them anyway.
The way he fell was so fricking moronic. At least in the later books they portray him as an insecure egomaniac so it kinda makes sense.
Actually, those answers are all wrong. 40k Nobles are basically the ultimate NEETs. Unless you're some overambitious schemer or a big boy you basically just get to do whatever you want when you want and for how long you want.
>Everything in Necron society takes longer, especially theatre. There's a play for the entire War in Heaven and it has a spinoff covering the story of a renegade Necron king who tried to fight the C'tan. It's over a decade long with no intermission since neither the players nor audience need to eat or go to the bathroom (also it's impossible for the players to forget their lines). Whenever this play is brought up it's clear none of the Necrons who see it enjoy it, but it does help to escape boredom.
>During their trial for possession the Orb, Orikan keeps resetting the timeline, manipulating the events so that a different Phaeron is chosen every time. This is due to his attempts to implicate Trazyn always backfire on himself (for one judge he claims he foresaw Trazyn stealing the Orb from a Tomb world set to be destroyed during its slumber and did nothing to stop it. The judge then asks why Orikan did nothing to save his fellow Necrons either.)
>At several points Trazyn and Orikan engage in rough fist fights and it states that, were it not for their metal bodies, the brawl would look ridiculously pathetic. Both Necrons were elderly cancer riddled scholars before biotransference and are TERRIBLE fighters (though Orikan was an okay wrestler before being kicked out of military school for Immortals).
>An army of Necron destroyers wages war on an Exodite world and after killing off large fauna, starting killing the environment. A wounded destroyer is shown crawling over thousands of miles using his remaining abilities to squash whatever insects he comes across.
>At several points Trazyn and Orikan engage in rough fist fights and it states that, were it not for their metal bodies, the brawl would look ridiculously pathetic. Both Necrons were elderly cancer riddled scholars before biotransference and are TERRIBLE fighters
It's Professor Farnsworth versus Professor Wernstrom all over again.
>Necrons have no need to smile, yet Trazyn is described as smiling constantly. Orikan loathes this and its implied Trazyn smiles explicitly for this reason.
>Trazyn has one of the sickest burns in the entire 40k setting. While going on a centuries long undercover operation on an Imperial planet, he enslaves a normal librarian in charge of keeping planetary records. When the Librarian nears the end of his greatly extended life, he asks if Trazyn intends to destroy his homeworld. Trazyn then lists off the various ecological calamities he has seen the humans commit to their own planet as they slowly poison it. He closes it by saying "So when you ask whether I intend do destroy this world, my question is: do you really need the help?"
>Orikan sabotages an Ork battlefield exhibit on Solemnace and Trazyn is forced to crunch his way through Orks to stop a poorly made rocket ship from detonating and blowing up even more of his collection. He manages to slay the warboss he acquired for the display and the Orks suddenly start cheering him on as he shuts down the the rocket. he then collapses to the floor exhausted mentally. The Orks are still cheering even as they are frozen back in stasis.
>After nearly destroying one another repeatedly while clashing over the Orb, the Necron council finally summons both Necrons and forces them to work together on the pain of having both of their reanimation abilities canceled. The council views them working together as a greater punishment than death since Trazyn and Orikan loathe each other so deeply by this point.
>Trazyn and Orikan FIGHT ORKS in SPACE. The two are forced to go up against a huge ork pirate fleet and in the process, Trazyn accidentally wound Orikans pride. He lays out a plan to successfully counter the Ork fleet before Orikan essentially says the equivalent of "I remember how to fight Orks dammit!" It comes off as a such a weird father teaching his son to ride a bike moment.
's a sequence where Orikan and Trazyn are SITTING IN A THEATRE watching opera in a booth seat (much to Orikan's chagrin). Trazyn is too caught up appreciating the culture to realize they are standing front seat to the beginning of a Genestealer uprising until the bullets start flying. From then on the two of them stroll through the infested city which is quickly turning into a hellscape. Trazyn makes sure to collect fighters on both sides for posterity. The cause of this Genestealer infestation is a story in and of itself.
>>A wounded destroyer is shown crawling over thousands of miles using his remaining abilities to squash whatever insects he comes across.
That's perfectly logical.
It's a shame that GW have to be such fricking Black folk.
The Astartes dude basically started a fan-animation revolution singlehandedly and now he's probably stuck in GW's basement dungeon.
I can't believe I'm finally in a thread where anonymous are literally arguing that the Emperor allowing everyone to think that there are aliens living in space hell (but it's not space hell just a wormhole dimension with aliens in it) is the same as explaining to his generals the metaphysical concepts of daemons and corruption. But some homosexuals are just contrarians for the sake of arguing.
>Still trying to save face
Feel free to go read Master of Mankind and The Lost and the Damned instead of shitposting on Ganker about a setting you clearly know nothing about lmao.
What’s with all the inquisition hate on here? Don’t you realize they are the first and last line of defence against the alien, the mutant and the heretic? They fight for your freedom.
>Be a human soul in the Warp >You have to spend all eternity fricking over everyone around you or else you will get fricked over >Its an endless race to the top to frick everyone or get fricked and even if you do reach some point of power, you will just be used by a God then discarded
Considering this is modern capitalism, its pretty mild.
The Emperor's problem was that he tried to have his cake and eat it too, he presented himself as this godlike figure but denied his own godhood. He either should've gone full 'enlightened rational scientist man' or full 'worship me as your new god'. He did both things half-assed instead, and it bit him in the ass.
Emps is kind of an aspie.
Guess that's how you turn out when you are an immortal who was forced to watch everyone he knows die and then live through like three apocalypses in a row.
Like many 40k adaptations, the writer fricked up the lore. Protocol was for Leandros to go to his chaplain who would have looked into Titus and seen that he was fine. Leandros would get turned into a servitor for bringing the inquisition in like that.
There are plenty of 40k stories where they kill their own heroes over bullshit, like the fate of Macharius, but the scenario in this game was poorly written
I love how in every single 40k thread, when lore and story is brought up, the most butthurt confrontational spastics are always the most blatantly incorrect, and are constantly proven to never have read the books or even played the game.
Stop watching "lore" videos on youtube and download a fricking pdf for once.
Why did he get retconed anyway? The sons if malice were pretty cool. With how warp entities are fueled by emotion, you'd think the sheer amount of seething hatred in the galaxy would make for an interesting villain if villains.
I believe there was some copyright or ownership dispute over Malal. I can't remember the details correctly but, I think it was something to do with an employee having the rights to Malal and ultimately being able to remove him from the setting.
The person that created Malal was a freelancer that technically retained ownership of the idea of Malal.
He was soft-rebooted as Malice but Malice doesn't do anything outside of the 'Sons of Malice', but even then there's barely any lore regarding him.
>rogue trader beta tutorial >everything is fricked, the second in command guy is screaming NOO PEOPLE ARE HECKING DYING, SoB is screaming TOTAL CHAOS DEATH, the autistic space wizard with mommy issues asking for her mommy rogue trader, said rogue trader in front of me is actually chaos demon illusion >FRICK YOU SATAN, LUV ME EMPERAH >jumps in the fire and is unharmed
i know that 'faith power' happens in 40k but this part kinda felt underwhelming, i expected more than jumping in the fire, i guess
I've been avoiding all talk about Rogue Trader since I want to at least try to be hyped for it since I love the tabletop shenanigans, but I have to ask:
In the vidya, do you get to pull off the crazy rogue trader bullshit? Wacky adventures and all that? You know, back when the setting didn't take itself seriously and was just ridiculous fantasy bullshit but IN SPAAAACE
I remember that old ass /tg/ story of that one trader staging a planetary rebellion, double crossing both the governor and the tau, and looting everything from both sides just so he could have his favorite meal on weekends again.
The basic gist of almost every 40k ending is that the hero saves the day at great cost, then gets rewarded with a knife in the back by the Imperium while his incompetent and stupid evil inbred leader is rewarded/elevated. Titus got let off easy, all things considered.
What is bad about the taus? I understand they consider humans to be lower than them and brainwash people softly but their standards or living are miles higher than the average human planet
frick man I hope there's some good bio-titan boss fights
actually they don't even need to be good, they just have to look good, give me something that isn't the same one old forge world model
>Touch raw warp energy >No real ill effects >Frequently takes unorthodox approaches to situations >Unknowingly helped chaos break out onto the planet
Now, those are pretty minor red flags, but you can kinda see where they're coming from.
>The witchling's eyes opened wider and she began to scream when the profane artifact touched her skin. It was the scream of a newborn being tortured to death. It was the scream of a child over dead parents. It was a scream of such horror and revulsion as to deny sanity. For one instant, the inquisitor allowed a smile to grace his scared face. He knew to the Exodite witchling that there was no greater pain than this. He crushed the feeling of ecstasy with the cold fury and disgust that had sustained him from his first agonizing memories of childhood all the way through thousands of campaigns and thankless conflict. Servants of the Emperor should have no love save to the Emperor, no happiness save to the Emperor, and no loyalty save to the Emperor. All else was either meaningless or to be scorned.
>The xeno youngling didn’t stop to breathe as she screamed, blood pouring from her eyes and nose, and she did not stop screaming for a very long time. First her eyes popped, and then her head finally exploded like a seismic grenade. Partially crystallized brain matter and neural fluid erupting in a fountain of gore. A blastwave of released psychic energy fading to nothing as it struck against the inquisitor's null aura, covering the inquisitor’s face with the remains of her. The witch's body sagged in the restraints. The inquisitor breathed out a shuddering sigh as he plucked an eyeball from his cheek, and gently brushed the xeno's lower jaw, only held on by strands of flesh and muscle, with his non-mechanical hand. So sweet, yet so short. He wondered if the other prisoners' screams would be as succulent when exposed to the Slaaneshi artifact.
>the genestealers infestation was caused by trazyn pulling an epic prank on orikan a few hundred years ago by siccing a lictor in orikan while he was mediating. >The entire reason they were both on the planet was because they were being punished by the council to work together to find a forgotten necron tomb before the planet was exterminatus'ed by the imperium which orikan saw in his visions. >The planet gets exterminatus'ed because of the genestealers infestation caused by aforementioned epic prank.
Imperium is well known for its full moron moments
Apparently the alleged Chaos taint should have been dealt with by the Ultramarine Chaplain and Librarians.
yes, the codex does say to do that, and ultramarines are supposed to know that especially but leandros was apparently ultrasleeping in that part of ultraclass
This is honestly the most moronic part. Ultramarines are the bible nerds of 40k. Same shit happens in Blades of Damocles. If you're gonna write a "frick the codex" character, don't make him an Ultramarine.
that is true but really its illogical for like 99.9% of marines, especially for codex humpers like Big Blue Robs boys but in general the Space Marines would rather handle shit internally so few chapters would ever go to the fricking Inquisition to deal with it, theyd have the chaplain the librarian the chapter master and maybe some other head honchos of the chapter deal with it and if found heretical have the chaplain crozius the offenders face off
the inquisition doesn't give a flying frick about astartes traditions and they can and will do whatever they want if they believe they can get away with it without risking retribution from the opposing party. if there were more ultramarines there, they would have slapped their dicks on the table and told the inquisitor to frick off before they open fire, but the only other ultramarine on the planet was leandros.
the only actual weird lore thing in that scene is that the inquisitor is accompanied by black templars, who are notorious inquisition haters and would never offer any of their brothers as a security detail for a dinky fricking inquisitor. assuming he's ordo hereticus, it would have been more accurate for him to come with a retinue of stormtroopers, crusaders, or even sisters of battle.
or just red hunters if they just need pallette-swapped marines
I think the BTs were supposed to be stand-ins for grey knights or something. Or they needed security for the inquisitor and just slapped it in.
I think you mean Deathwatch. They're the inquisitions private chapter
Deathwatch works for ordo xenos who deal with aliens not heretics. Grey knights work for the ordo malleus who are the demon hunters. Ordo hereticus usually rounds up whatever battle sisters are available.
Deathwatch works with, not for ordo xenos, they are an independent entity.
>the inquisition doesn't give a flying frick about astartes traditions and they can and will do whatever they want if they believe they can get away with it without risking retribution from the opposing party.
>that time they tried to pull their shit with the space wolves and the inquisition, the grey knights, and the red hunters got their shit pushed in
The months of shame we're so satisfying
exactly. every time the inquisition oversteps its boundaries (or, rather, makes a gamble without the necessary forces to back up their claims) they get their shit pushed in. the space wolves all full-on mutants in the eyes of the inquisition but they continue to exist because the resources/manpower it would take to get rid of him is just too much of a headache. its funny how imperial politics immediately devolves into "laws of the jungle," and highlights one of the more interesting parts of 40k's setting that isn't really explored that much in nu40k since girlyman took over.
the imperium is not a single, unified political body. its a corpse encompassing the influence of humanity, laid across the whole galaxy and occupied by various political factions, institutions, and orders all with their own respective, often overlapping agendas. they all follow the same ideology in name but at the end of the day they all have their own guns, their own soldiers, their own planets, and they believe they represent the emperor's true will better than anyone else.
the inquisitor cannot prosecute you if you just shoot him
>nu wh40k talks.
Listen lad this is not the way humanity has conquered the galaxy by trillions of planets.
You belong ib the hands of the inquisition and all devs spreading this chaos image of the Empire of Man.
Those weren't Templars, they were Deathwatch, the Inquisition's pet chapter.
- Deathwatch is an Ordo Xenos organization composed of marines seconded from multiple chapters, not really a chapter in its own right
- Black Templar can be in the Deathwatch, but it is rare that a brother has the right temperament
- Those Black Templar didn't have any Deathwatch iconography
I should have put quotations around the word chapter, but yeah.
I had to warch the ending again, and you're right. I guess I gaslit myself into thinking they were deathwatch since that makes more sense.
No they were templars. But Templars have no beef as such with the inquisition like the space wolves, beyond the inquistion keeping an eye on them for their crusader organisation which is still not a negative look on the inquisition from the templars.
thats why dark angels > ultramarines
if a inquisitor starts being a c**t they just muder the fricker
>by black templars,
i dont think that was a black templar but a Deathwatch
they use black armor too
The Templars generally get on OK with Puritan Inquisitors who don't ask silly questions like "seriously, how many of you guys are out there, these numbers don't add up", because those guys have a weird tendency to disappear and leave no forwarding addresses before they can make friends. Plus, if you were a Templar squad in that situation, why WOULDN'T you go along with it?
>an Inquisitor is asking for backup arresting a potentially Chaos-tainted Ultramarine.
>option 1: it's not chaos, but you can never be too careful with the Great Enemy. By being present, you can make sure a brother Marine is treated fairly, get in good with an Inquisitor AND get some amazing material to rub in the face of the next Ultramarine who tries to get snooty with your crusade.
>option 2: it is Chaos. Scourge and purge! The Inquisitor will be grateful that you and the boys are there to throw down (or at least they will be, if they know what's good for them), you have avenged a stain on the honour of the Astartes by destroying a traitor to a first founding, AND you get to rub it in the face of the Ultramarines.
Its win-win, everyone's getting extra purity seals from this one.
Absolutely! Always trust your Librarian. Especially when they're your Chapter Master!
Smurfs aren't a probably Thousand Daughters offshoot, so it's fine.
If you know anything about 40k or things like the Badab War, you'd know this is extremely believable for the Imperium to do. They constantly do moronic shit like go to war with their own loyal worlds and armies just over ridiculous political bullshit and false heresy accusations.
>Chuckles in Minotaur
I swear the Minotaurs and the Silver Skulls chapter have opened the floodgates for loyalist chapters of traitor legion geneseed homebrewery.
I think the concept is cool (and might do it myself) but I feel second hand embarrassment because of how common they are in the homebrewing space like edgy Sonic OCs.
Forgot the image
>they are also successors of a traitor legion
Based
For me it's Night Lords
Honestly, loyalist chapters who are traitor legion successors is a really cool concept if its done right. I still subscribe to the idea that the Blood Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons or at least have some relation to their geneseed. Space Sharks being Night Lord successors is a cool concept too.
>Space Sharks being Night Lord successors
They are hybrid RG/NL.
It's cool but it's one of those 'baby's first custom marine chapter' things that everyone does. It can be interesting when done right, but too many people just want to literally just make a chapter in OG traitor legion colors or whatever. If a chapter is descended from traitor stock that shit should be ultra-top-secret, if anything it should be a major flaw for the Chapter to deal with. I think Forgeworld did it best with the Red Scorpions:
>Chapter with mysterious past, no records remaining of their origin or founding
>Extremely isolationist
>Overzealous in the extreme, as well as strangely tactically flexible
>Mysteriously pure geneseed that the admech cannot identify the source of
Basically they made them act like pre-heresy EC but gave them their own schtick.
as long as you make them interesting who cares
besides its all but confirmed cawl has straight up done it and Emperor only knows how many marines he made using the naughty primarch juices (lookin at you Sons of the Phoenix)
just please in the name of autism make them a planet based chapter and autistically go into detail about the planet and the chapter and its customs
Fair enough.
Honestly it seems that space marines given their popularity have the monopoly on homebrewing cliches but it now makes me wonder what homebrewing cliches are common across the other factions.
Especially guard, orks, Necrons and knights.
dunno if its a prevalent outside marines, and guard gets kinda screwed since GW doesnt put out near the range of models forcing people to resort to kitbashing if they want to even try
>tfw my first made up chapter were secret night lords
i wish i still had my writings. i autistically catalogued their history up to the start of the 13th black crusade
>>tfw my first made up chapter were secret night lords
You never heard of space sharks?
i made mine before they were fleshed out, stealing the idea from dark crusade and the blood ravens. all my notes were written in a notebook before imperial armour expanded on them and they got their novels.
Occasionally a radical inquisitor will just start popping the heads of multiple planetary governors because their coked up mind thinks letting the planets collapse and making all the psykers explode will save the imperium or something.
How can human male get aeldari aspect warrior gf?
How did the Iron Hands miss the point of mr Metal Elbows so hard? It's not like the blood angels or Imperial fists abandoned their primarch's teachings?
Lead poisoning made them stupid
To be fair Mr Iron Hand was a massive autist as well and he couldn't stick around to tell his sons off courtesy of his estranged buttbuddy.
The Iron Hands think that Ferrus Manus sucked for getting so enraged by Horus's betrayal that he got his legion wrecked by being illogical in service to his flesh. It's true that they fail to live up to Ferrus's true belief that "I have the strength because I am human, not because I have these arms" but they also see that he fricking died because he thought that.
Phallus was a shitty primarch. Almost Perturabo-tier, except he didn't decimate his sons for the smallest frickups.
some iron hands legit joined horus under the logic that he was stronger so he was more worthy to serve
Iron Hands got the worst and most inconsistent writing in the entire HH series. His character and strengths are just all over the place
>From harsh warrior-god obsessed with personal growth -- to a grumpy mechanic who makes moronic decisions and purposefully gets his allies killed
>From Horus nearly getting beat to death trying to convince him to join the heresy -- to Fulgrim beating him to unconsciousness and killing half his terminators on the way out
>From possibly surviving the dropsite massacre -- to being killed by Fulgrim, contradicting his early descriptions and feats more suiting a close combat monstrosity (like 1v1ing the fricking Emperor to a draw, which is still canon for some reason)
>From the loyalist version of Horus -- to the loyalist version of Perturabo
>Stated to be the tallest and strongest primarch up until Vulkan got his books
>The silver wyrm he killed was confirmed to not be necron which is just moronic
They turned him into the Worf of 40k. His purpose is to job to show how strong the bad guys are
>Head entirely surrounded by big spikey cage
>Still somehow gets decapitated
What a loser.
The gayblade was just really powerful, okay???
they fricked for sure, right?
Oh definitely. Fulgrim even keeps having fabulous bile make clones of ferrus over and over again so he can try to convince ferrus to go chaos. It always ends with the ferrus clone telling Fulgrim to go frick himself and Fulgrim chopping his head off just like the original.
>It always ends with the ferrus clone telling Fulgrim to go frick himself and Fulgrim chopping his head off just like the original.
Before or after fricking xirself?
Fulgrim is always in a state of fricking so it's unnecessary.
You can't
>false heresy accusations.
Looks like we have another case for Inquisition.
If something is Satanist good at is at infiltration.
I mean just look at the world today.
Kek
This moron moment are peak IQ logic for those that lnow what kind of enemy are fighting.
But it is okay this is an heretic by default anglo phorum.
>If something is Satanist good at is at infiltration.
>Girlyman: Man, I feel like checking those people I send to collect the history of the imperium
The Inquisition killed them
The Inquisition's about to get their shit kicked in
Lmao no. In the last Guilliman book one of them learns of Imperium Secundus.
>Imperium Secundus
whats the issue
Guilliman assuming the Emperor was dead and setting up his own Imperium rather than mobilizing to help the actual Imperium could very easily be construed as treason.
lol. first homie to try it is meeting oblivion instead of the emperor. long jonson is back too so there's no chance for it to be used in any real capacity, not that girlyman takes pride in that time anyway. not to say it won't make a plot point in some schlock novel.
>badab war
>moronic
You mean a guy declaring himself the lord of a separatist little empire and attacking-on-sight? Man, the imperium sure was in the wrong when they went to forcefully check what was going on and it was nothing but preparing for war and HERESY.
just like real life
He was turned into a Primaris Muhreen
Primaris Muhreens as of the current lore haven't turned into Chaos yet and crossing the rubicon is something Spess Mehreen chapters take lightly
Even when active attempts were made to turn them they simply resist and will even kill themselves
They're squeaky clean as Gay Knights, they're the mass produced version of them minus the psionic/Warp powers
primaris marines have gone chaos now
>primaris marines have gone chaos now
Source?
ark of omen angron, angron's actions caused khorne to unleash a murder curse on a whole fleet. there are now chaos sororitas and primaris
Shit, I did hear of that murder curse but it never sank in that Primaris would have been effected. Thanks for clarifying anon.
Only Grey Knights, Custodes and Sisters of Silence got away unaffected, everything from the Imperial Navy, Sisters and Primaris got infected.
>Grey Knights
Those guys were a lost cause for a long time already.
>tfw you will never get turbomurdered by a khornite sister
Why even live?
I feel ya.
I remember seeing a Nurgle version, is there one for the other two Gods aswell?
Just these two, unfortunately.
Shame, I'm fascinated to know what a Tzeentch corrupted sister looks like. And of course, compare the breasts of the Khornate and Slaanesh Sisters
Tzeentch seems the least compatible with SoB of them all. Birches are obsessed with becoming martyrs over everything else. They don't want to make anything better at all, they don't want the power to change anything because becoming a martyr is already the best possible outcome to them.
Tzeentch is gay and so are his followers
>appear gay when youa re straight
yes, all according to keikaku
Maybe they want to become a martyr in the most useful (Tzeentch lie) way. I just want to see them with feathers tbh
may I see it?
>Khorne doesn't care from the blood flows only that it flows
>Female
I am surprised khorne doesn't corrupt sisters more often given they go into a red rage every month
sisters are supposed to be incorruptible.
A lot of things are supposed to be a lot of things.
a twist is not in and of itself a good thing
>The Emprah being kept alive by the WAAAAAAGH is stupid
Nuh-uh.
yes-uh
Isn't he dead?
No. He's a perpetual. If he died he would resurrect.
He got hurt as bad as he could to not kill him, and his body was strapped to a magic space chair that keeps him alive to power the astronomicon. The key to orientation in the warp.
If the emperor dies and stops powering it for an instant then every ship across the galaxy in travel at that moment would be fricked, and no one would be able to navigate, cutting everyone off from everyone else unless they're really close together naturally.
Besides that, he's also keeping a massive rift in the warp from opening up under him, swallowing terra and mars, and handing the game to chaos.
UNLESS the keikaku is that the emperor is trying to turn into a warp god himself.
Not him. Malcador.
He got turned to dust, but a portion of his soul stayed in his staff and protected the head Librarian of the ultramarines when he tried to psychically confront the tyranid hivemind
>UNLESS the keikaku is that the emperor is trying to turn into a warp god himself.
that's exactly what's happening, if the latest books are to be believed
>>that's exactly what's happening, if the latest books are to be believed
Let's say the EMPRAH turns into a Chaos God. Then what?
Literally nothing changes.
Khorne and Nurgle in headlocks under both arms while he snaps Tzeentch's bird neck between his thighs. Refuses to make physical contact with Slaanesh.
Not a chaos god but a warp god, like the eldar ones.
His original plan to move humans into the webway to starve the gods failed and his new plan is just fricking them up since he got so powerful from thousands of years of worship.
It's alright, as long as The Emperor can find a way to channel the chaotic energies fed to him by humanity in a way that can cause a -
HERETIC
>powerful enough to physically wound Nurgle
>Still can't fix his own toilet seat
The frick are you doing Big E
>The frick are you doing Big E
He's kinda gone insane from millennia of getting giga-tortured and force-fed billions of souls and fighting chaos.
And crying all the time
He's going to regenerate when Leviathan reaches Terra
Shadow in the Warp is going to frick with the Throne, giving Emp time to regenerate but also opens the Webway gate which will result in the Khan riding to the rescue through the Webway while being chased by Vashtorr, Abaddon, and rapesnake Fulgrim
he can fix the toilet, but getting off of it means an eye of Terror forms around Sol.
Considering the bureaucracy, it might even be an improvement. Even Tzeentch ought to run things better.
>emps becomes warp god
>metaphysically kicks the shit out of the other 4
>warp is safe for now
>builds the new webway anyway to completely cut humans from warp
>rebukes humanity
>disperses himself for good
would be kino
himself for good
Well that was kinda his plan at the start anyway.
>Let's say the EMPRAH turns into a Chaos God. Then what?
"Chaos God" is just a name for powerful beings that live in the warp. The Emps could become a Warp God, Gork/Mork are Warp Gods, everything could be a Warp God.
Knowing GWS and their shit tier story handling when they decide money is not shoving into their faces fast enough what will happen next is every Chaos God will merge into one being and the Emperor will also become a Warp God and now they're all fighting in the Warp so every single tabletop army needs to be replaced with Warp variants.
Buy our *NEW* and improved WARP MARINES, WARP ELDER and WARP ORK, $99.99 for a box of 3.
Gay furry homosexuals, make way for the real death squad
>The Wolf King boasted to all that he was his father's executioner.
>He was a deterrent, a hound to snarl from behind a sealed gate, never to be unleashed. What the Lion was to his father did not speak its name so brazenly.
>For where Russ was a warning, the Lion was a solution. The final solution.
>He was the Emperor’s exterminator. What the honour of Russ would not abide he would sanction without hesitation.
>The enemy who might yet be integrated, the adversary whose misguided but noble resistance might be canonised in posterity, these were wars for his brothers to wage. When the First Legion turned their guns upon a foe it was to annihilate without trace, to obliterate beyond all hope of record.
>That was the purpose for which the Dark Angels were created and it was the reason that He made them first.
only nulls are incorruptible, regular sisters are meant to be hard to corrupt but can fall to chaos
GK and custards are also incorruptible
GK and custodes are expensive and handcrafted to serve the emperor. A rank and file sister of battle isn't on their level
GKs and Custodes are mary sues and should be deleted from the setting
Custodes aren't Mary Sues, they literally failed their primary goal
>GK and custards are also incorruptible
homie nulls don't have souls, they can't be corrupted.
miriel is a regular SoB by the way and not a SoS.
>daemons of khorne are gonna eat you out like ice cream sandwiches when your red rage begins
the whence the blood flows part means that khorne doesn't care if the blood comes from one of his own followers or an enemy, or even a warrior, as long as it's spilled violently.
I know i am just memeing, moron
Proof.
that was the whole khorne frickery with angron from the choral engine.
pretty gay but they needed to boost khorne's forces because the whole thing was about angron coming back to fight roboute.
>now
Even if that is true that doesn't undo the moronation that is their entire concept.
His feats were literally unachievable by any other character than a videogame protagonist, and one of the space marines thought that something was fishy and called the inquisition. It's not necessarily a bad thing to call the inquisition to inspect for heresy after a space marine literally goes toe-to-toe with daemons and chaos space marines but nobody really knew that he probably had assistance from the Emperor because of his faith.
I always wondered if Leandros calling Inquisition was a matter of the writers forgetting about the codex saying that Librarians should be dealing with potential chaos corruption or if it was intentional to drive the point that Leandros was a moron.
Relic certainly takes liberties with 40k lore, especially with their fetish for Khornate psykers.
Considering the whole point was "Don't blindly follow the codex you stupid fricking narc" it was probably intentional
If they wanted to stick to the original story and eventually make him go renegade/start his own renegade chapter it would make more sense to jump straight for the inqusition too. Gotta give him more of a reason to do things than just ultramarine infighting
You think Leandros’ is going to get any flak for that? I mean in the latest trailer it’s hinted that Titus was recently reintroduced so he was most likely punished.
>Titus is now a Primaris.
If anything he got a huge fricking promotion in the interim and it's only inquisitorial dickwaving that was preventing his full reinstatement until the nids showed up.
If the inquisition did find something odd about his warp resistance, the absolute worst they could divine would be that he is a latent psyker.
Nah Titus is a Lieutenant now instead of a Captain. And from the trailer it sounds like whoever is in charge is suspicious of Titus still, and Titus is still on thin fricking ice with the brass of both the Ultras, Militarum, and Inquisition for whatever was decided about him and the fact he's returned is a point of contention for the leadership on the planet being invaded whether they can trust him.
ANOTHER Primaris Lieutenant?
>You’re a loose cannon, Titus. Hand in your bolter. And your other bolter!
lieutenants are higher ranking than captains in space marines the squeakwel: this time they're spacier
this is possibly a joke about the fact that all the military terminology is basically completely wrong in warhammer but it is far more likely that the writers were fricking moronic, since they thought primaris was a good idea in the first place
>lieutenants are higher ranking than captains in space marines the squeakwel:
No they aren't, Big Blue's reforms added two lieutenants let company under the captain.
a firstborn undergoing Primaris upgrades has like a 60%+ chance of death.
At first, but based Cawl refined the process
sorry, 50%+.
its confirmed he got a demotion after all that
But they still upgraded him to primaris so who gives a shit really
Probably the former
An inquisitor being escorted by Black templars is silly
>The guy so adamant about adhering to the codex is also the guy that completely missed the part in the codex where you first consult the Chaplain/Librarians.
Sounds about right, doesn´t it. In his rampant rule lawyering he forgot to actually read the damn thing he is quoting.
If the emperor himself granted his favor upon him, then he just accept any faith he will have... even if the inquisition find him guilty, that will be revised by orher inquisitors and if they discover satanist taint on then. Well you know the deal maximun punishment until full repent.... anyways the thing is: if he is punished and killed by Inquisitorium, and them is proved that he was assisted by the divine Emperor, he will be santified and glorified as a Martyr.
can anyone translate this to english i dont speak google translate
If he drowns he wasn't a witch and will be hailed as a martyr, if he does drown then he's a fricking witch and his death was warranted.
>if he does drown then he's a fricking witch and his death was warranted.
if he DOESN'T drown then he's a fricking witch and his death is warranted.
It's already been done before with Captain Lysander, who went missing in the warp for a bit, let himself get probed for corruption and was declared clean.
I think the ESL is trying to say Titus would be glorified as a martyr if they kill him for chaos taint only to learn after that the Emps favored him.
>muh grimdark
>3(mostly one) marines stop an entire ork waaagh, kill hundreds of chaos space marines and demons, and go toe to toe with a demon prince in close combat without a scratch.
I'd have found that a little hard to believe too, but yeah, i'd have told the chaplain not the inquisition
you seem to be new to this. welcome to warhammer.
His homosexual underling screwed him over and went against protocol because he had the audacity not to blindly worship/follow the space book that their gene dad wrote as a simple guide.
The game's writers were completely clueless of the codex.
The Imperium are completely clueless of the codex. Its just like any religious text where 50 priests have 50 ways of translating the bullshit
1) he's an Ultra smurf so he deserves it
2) he and he alone has constant success in a world where getting groceries and putting the kettle on is accompanied by scores of fallen allies and grim darkness.
And noone is that lucky.
i don't understand the warhammer world, like, how are the humans still alive? how are there any of them left? are they all like mormons and just frick like crazy all the time and spit out kids on conveyor belts, or something? they have to, after all, because you can't have human armies be mown down 24/7 and not replace them, right?
The short answer is dont worry about it. There's as many humans as the story needs
The long answer is there's thousands of planets dedicated purely to holding hundreds of billions of humans that do essentially pump out kids as early as possible. Life is cheap and only a few other races in the setting are actually keeping up with them in terms of population growth
A mix of everyone being just as fricked as us and utterly insane birth rates.
even the 40k writing fail to grasp the scale of the setting they are working on
you could have an entire planet thats just miles of factories manufacturing a single part for a single weapon
entire galaxy of planets all a (relatively) quick warp jump between any of them
a single hive city can contain billions of citizens. a planet can have several hive cities. The imperial guard will draft millions of people when it needs more regiments. people are treated as disposable and if you step out of line you can be turned into someone's new CPU.
They're alive because of extremely brutal pragmatism and their entire galaxy spanning civilization is dedicated to the sole purpose of waging a war for survival.
>people are treated as disposable and if you step out of line you can be turned into someone's new CPU.
not really the case. data/rule book fluff > novels.
what are you talking about? every machine needs a biological component and brains are used as logic engines all the time in the imperium
random chuckle fricks don't get made into servitors as a rule. it's for criminals, and only the worst of them.
>Steals bread
>Attention Citizen you have been sentenced to 427 death sentences to be served consecutively
the black library and it's effects have been a disaster for 40k
>you now remember the number of '''fans''' who don't know that the majority of servitors are vat-grown husks
I'd blame youtube ''''loremasters'''' and their shitty clickbait myself
>Broooo mass stroggification brooo like they just kidnap people off the street and turn them into living hell downie robots brooo
actually, i like the OLDER lore, that servitors are all ex criminals, their sentences for crimes that don't warrant immediate death being reduced to servitor-dom.
Secondary here, why?
because 40k writers are awful
i-i like phil kelly
There's some good gems, pic related is a good one until the White Scars do time travel shenanigans with an Iyanden Farseer to prevent Genestealers inviting Tyranids.
bread is a valuable commodity depending on the planet
Pretty much this.
If some rando fricks up in a factory and accidentally drops a shell casing, he'll probably just have a 1.5x increase in his shift (at least 24 hours of work a day) and his family's rations halved for a while. If he or they drop dead, they get made into more rations and are so easily replaced it makes you wonder why they weren't turned into corpse starch sooner.
le corpse starch in itself has been memed to hell. Yeah it's used as a low-quality shitty emergency ration but there are entire star systems worth of agri worlds dedicated to sending *actual* food (albeit processed to hell) to hive worlds.
I'd say nutrient paste instead, but that's too boring and generic scifi, at least corpse starch is sort of funny, even if it is a onions green ripoff.
>random chuckle fricks don't get made into servitors as a rule. it's for criminals, and only the worst of them
lol, sweet sommer child.
there is a planet that is essentially one big hospital for soldiers with PTSD and for some reason it also supplies all servitors to its system.
>that time a planet was being evacuated and a nearby forgeworld offered to take in all their refugees as long as they can turn them into servitors
say it wasn't too bad for the first 30.000 years that's a lot of
so if we game them an increase of 0,15% over those first 30k years then one person would multiply into 33,776,052,254,145,885,080.9
so we'd have some spares.
By the time the emperor shows up and starts the current era humanity had already grown to a galactic power, and fallen. There are worlds all over the galaxy and when the emperor began his crusade he was trying to find and unite all these colonies.
In current era, they literally have no idea how many planets or people are actually in the imperium, entire sectors can become lost because some tertiary adjunct to a a file clerk assigned to some local governor filed some papers wrong.
Each planet in the imperium is also required to produce an annual tithe. This can be money, food, resources, tools, etc. If you're a shithole of a planet with nothing of value, you pay the tithe with warm bodies. Most of them go to the IG to become cannon fodder.
Titus spent time in the Deathwatch no? I assumed that was why he has the chains.
was he a furry?
kinda like the real world 🙂
one planet is nothing to the great Imperium, does make me wonder how humanity has reached literally trillions and trillions in population when the universe in general is so unbelievably fricked up
because everything was fine before Slaanesh was birthed. Humans had 15,000 year spread across the galaxy
plenty of brainwashing, i presume.
At the current point in the setting it's mostly because the Emperor managed to set up the basework of the imperium so thoroughly that even the High Lords can't frick it up.
In addition, it's not just humans that are constantly fricked over by the setting, everyone alive is fricked over by the setting.
>does make me wonder how humanity has reached literally trillions and trillions in population when the universe in general is so unbelievably fricked up
Because of the Golden Age of AI and technology which came before 40k and saw humanity conquer the entire known universe literally 3D printing entire civilizations on infinite worlds, even the Eldar were no match and had AI not gone rogue the entire setting would have been
>Humans discover AI
>Humans win galaxy
But those idiots forgot to make AI subservient. The AI rose up, the dark ages began and everything went to shit until the Emperor came and tried to save humanity from being wiped out.
Its honestly a masterclass in good writing that even people who love 40k don't realize that before the Emperor humanity was actually fine and was conquering everything with science, not religion. The whole concept of the Inquisition and Emperor = God and you must serve blindly with faith is so convincing people think its truly the best option. Had the Emperor promoted controlled science instead of religious fanaticism Chaos never would have gotten this strong.
>t. r/iheckinglovescience
>But those idiots forgot to make AI subservient
They did make AI subservient lmao. The robutts were their slaves for thousands and thousands of years and the idea that DAoT humanity wouldn't have implanted them with a three-laws equivalent is absurd.
The point is that the AI rose up anyway. Which is why AI is seen as inherently corruptible and dangerous and ultimately uncontrollable.
>They did make AI subservient lmao
No they tried and failed, its a significant difference. They thought they had made them subservient.
>the idea that DAoT humanity wouldn't have implanted them with a three-laws equivalent is absurd.
Thats your own fanfiction, and not the actual lore.
>bros trust religion!
>humanity did better with science
>chaos is limited by science
>even big e just loved science
>bias led to religion
Just like real life
Samegay, embarrasing
oh no no no
Yeah yeah we all know how to use Paint kid, lurk more
Humanity already tried to science it's way to victory and got it's shit rocked though, it provably didn't work for them
Votann really frick over any attempt to say science doesn't work. Their gods are literally 3D printers and they have 0 chaos corruption issues.
>The point is that the AI rose up anyway. Which is why AI is seen as inherently corruptible and dangerous and ultimately uncontrollable.
There is a special form of irony for people who fall for fictional settings propaganda
Yeah they were conquering with science right up until science decided to turbogenocide them.
>Had the Emperor promoted controlled science instead of religious fanaticism Chaos never would have gotten this strong
Are you moronic or just a secondary? The Emperor mandated state-enforced atheism during the Great Crusade. He constantly denied he was a god. He punished one of his own superhuman primarch generals for spreading the idea that he was a god. Look how that worked out for him.
>before the Emperor humanity was actually fine and was conquering everything with science, not religion
Conquering things with science is what led to the human empire getting buttfricked by Old Night and then again during the Great Crusade. Meanwhile given that moronicly zealous belief in the Emperor as a god allows non-psykers to set daemons on fire and banish them to space hell, maybe the Emperor actually /should/ have run his Imperium on religious zealotry to defeat Chaos rather than sciencing the galaxy to thousands of years of shit. Again.
Emotions feeds chaos, the idea you can defeat emotions using emotions is like putting gas on a fire.
The Emprah is just going to become another Khorne/Khaine
He tried. morons just didn't listen and everything has gone to shit for it.
Well, the Iron Hands once permakilled(?) a Slaaneshi daemon by sheer repressed rage alone.
The Emperor's entire science based plan was to starve out the Chaos gods by denying them worship. But you correctly point out that the Chaos gods are primarily empowered by emotions rather than worship. Thus the Emperor's plan to make them go away by denying anyone knowledge of them was doomed to fail. Again, believing in the Emperor actually allows people to fight Chaos without needing to be psykers. Clearly believing in the Emperor is a better weapon than hurr durr atheism to beat Chaos (which failed multiple times)
You are literally making up story elements that never happened. He never had a science plan, tried to deny their existence or make anyone believe in him as a God.
His entire Great Crusade was an atheistic plan to defeat Chaos with the power of rationality. What the frick are you on about?
You actually need to go read 40k you have no idea what you're posting
What are you talking? From the novels
>I have conquered humanity’s cradle-world. I have conquered the galaxy, in order to shape mankind’s development as it at last evolves into a psychic race. No isolated pockets of our species may remain free, lest in their ignorance they invite destruction upon us all. I have shattered the hold of faith and fear over the human mind. Superstition and religion must continue to be outlawed, for they are easy doors for the warp’s denizens to enter the human heart. This is what we have already done. And soon I will offer humanity a way of interstellar travel without reliance upon Geller fields and Navigators. I will offer them means of communicating between worlds without reliance on the warp-dreams of astropaths. And when the Imperium shields the entire species within the laws of my Pax Imperialis, when humanity is freed from the warp and united beneath my vision, I can at last shepherd mankind’s growth into a psychic race.
The Emperor's plan was to use the webway to cut reliance on navigators and astropaths, and easily establish a galactic empire like the Eldar used to have. His plan for Chaos was the enforced atheism
>He never [...] tried to deny their existence
Fricking what? The Emperor never told anyone about Chaos. That's the entire reason so many of the Primarchs turned traitor, they had no idea what they were dealing with. Him not telling anyone about Chaos is one of the Emperor's primary mistakes, and one of the central reasons the Horus Heresy happens. You're either trolling or a genuinely moronic secondary.
>'I prepared them all, this pantheon of proud godlings that insist they are my heirs. I warned them of the warp’s perils. Coupled with this, they knew of those dangers themselves. The Imperium has relied on Navigators to sail the stars and astropaths to communicate between worlds since the empire’s very first breath. The Imperium itself is only possible because of those enduring souls. No void sailor or psychically touched soul can help but know of the warp’s insidious predation. Ships have always been lost during their unstable journeys. Astropaths have always suffered for their powers. Navigators have always seen horrors swimming through those strange tides. I commanded the cessation of Legion Librarius divisions as a warning against the unrestrained use of psychic power. One of our most precious technologies, the Geller field, exists to shield vessels from the warp’s corrosive touch. These are not secrets, Ra, nor mystical lore known only to a select few. Even possession by warp-wrought beings is not unknown. The Sixteenth witnessed it with his own eyes long before he convinced his kindred to walk a traitor’s path with him. That which we call the warp is a universe alongside our own, seething with limitless, alien hostility. The primarchs have always known this. What difference would it have made had I labelled the warp’s entities “daemons” or “dark gods”?'
>I warned them of the warp’s perils
I'm coping here but this isn't exactly an explicit confirmation he told them about Chaos itself, just 'the Warp is bad and don't touch it'. There's a difference.
>ALL of the Primarchs knew of Chaos
Did they? Lorgar's entire character is him getting rejected by the Emperor then discovering the existence of the Chaos Gods. If he knew about Chaos already why would he have to send men into the Eye of Terror and deduce their existence?
>never, ever, denied the existence of Chaos
The Imperial Truth, the propaganda for the masses, explicity says there are no Gods.
read
and stop trying to change as setting to save face
My apologies anonymous but you've been drawn into arguing with a moron who is just going to stamp his feet and repeat "read the books! read the books!" while misciting the Emperor lamenting his failures to Ra from MoM.
>MoM
Gay ADBBlack person daddy issues shit.
No worries, anyone reduced to citing an ADB novel to prove his point has already lost the argument, morally at least. It was an excuse to break out the Black Books again at least
>The Imperial Truth, the propaganda for the masses, explicity says there are no Gods.
There aren't any. Chaos gods is a misnomer. They're just out of control entities.
Semantic games. The point is they are metaphysical beings, not some kind of understandable flesh and blood alien species.
Yeah and they knew warp beings existed and that the warp was dangerous. Semantics is needing to call it "chaos" and them "gods" when there's other names already used for them.
The point of the warp is that it makes it impossible to actually know of the gods are actual entities or sentient concepts or whatever
40k lore in any case is flexible and you can draw your own conclusions.
The only difference between Khorne and a Bloodthirster is scale. Same for the other 3.
This is like telling your kids, hey the ocean is scary. There's big sharks and killer whales that will eat you. Then forgetting to tell them that Cthulhu and Dagon are real and will frick you up.
His only mistake was his trust in his sons really. He told them to reject everything unknown. It shouldn't matter if they actually knew about chaos, they did know he was giga brained and all he did had a purpose. The only one that's kind of excusable is Horus since he got that shit mainlined.
Anon, ALL of the Primarchs knew of Chaos they just didn't realise they were being corrupted by it. Not knowing =/= not understanding. You are a mong.
They didnt know about the gods specifically, all they knew is that the warp was populated by hostile "xenos" and shit, not even Magnus knew.
>Him not telling anyone about Chaos is one of the Emperor's primary mistakes
You've made this up in your head as canon without knowing the books or reading a single page. He made mistakes but he never, ever, denied the existence of Chaos.
They're empowered by emotions but they only exist as thoughtforms. The warp is just a dark mirror. If the man in the mirror starts talking to you you take your fricking meds, you don't take its advice to murder your family. Emps wanted everyone to deny them entirely because it starves them (and really pisses them off besides.)
Shame about that innate human need to worship something more meaningful than "science!"
you think too highly of yourself and too little of others.
>innate human need to worship something
Religious-cucks trying desperately to correlate science fiction and reality.
I dunno man the humies seem to do a little better when they're channeling those emotions in the right direction
You don't get living saints and dedicated motherfrickers by being an emotionless husk
Where do people get the idea that the eldar were no match for the dark age of tech
I don't know. I always assumed the Eldar were too busy having orgies to care about humanity taking over most of the galaxy.
The timeline is fuzzy, but the reason the DAOT ended is at least partially because of the warp storms created by the gestation of Slaanesh; Slaanesh being born and ending the Eldar Empire is what stopped the warp storms and allowed space travel again. That's when the Emperor started up the Great Crusade. So that would mean the DAOT and Eldar Empire coexisted. The way fans rationalize this is that the Eldar didn't give a shit about humans, and also that their empire was more localized in the webway and what would what become the eye of terror. This is contradicted by some text that says their empire stretched across the galaxy, but GW sucks at keeping this straight so who knows
With eldar traveling everywhere by webway and humans using the warp and with how much actual space there is between stars, it's entirely possible for the 2 empires to look like they overlap the galactic map but actually rarely come into actual contact.
The eldar fricked everything up for everyone
It was humanity that gave chaos the entirety of its material army though
40k is dumb
Sentenced for the crime of being white in a now diverse universe.
THE INQUISITION ARE A BUNCH OF Black folk
S O U L
leandros being a massive homosexual is what happened
Space book alright.
Guess someone misread 'heroics' as 'heresy', it happens all the time, big thing
I know about the death corps but are there other guardsman companies that use melee more than firearms?
Catachans are full on rambo with big dick knives.
Death corps using melee that much is just a meme for the most part, not like they hold back on a ordered charge, but its not like they blindly come running out of the trenches they dug.
Catachans however very much would do that, accurate.
off the top of my head
>catachan jungle fighters, as previously mentioned.
>kanak skull-takers, bunch of barbarian grugs from a primitive world who like to take skulls for the emperor and *not* khorne
>brontian longknives, classic fallout-style urban tribals from a hive world, really like knives
>tallarn desert raiders, brave mujahideen fighters specializing in mobile ambush tactics with their cool curved knives, lot like the fremen from dune
>any given conscript/hive-based regiment, hiver thugs are desperate and moronic and know how to beat each other with big sticks
GW has forgotten and basicly soft-squatted every regiment that isn't cadia, kreig or catachan
Bruh they updated the Attilans recently, that gives me hope.
is there one for the RT background? some kind of janny.
it sucks yea. the regiments made up for the only war RPG have to be my favorites. maccabian jannisaries are dope as frick and pull off the "spooky masked soldier" look better than the kriegers do.
man I would kill for some more byzantine aesthetics
and i am mad about it
Tunnel rats seem cool.
For me, it's chemdogs. I love those methed up, thieving, juryrigging scumbags
i really liked the mordian iron guard. their novel is one of my favorites. i keep thinking about getting into the miniatures and trying to kitbash something to resemble them.
>heroics
you misspelled 'heretics'
How badly are the tyranids going to lose the 4th tyrannic war?
Hard enough to take a backseat on the threat scale again, not hard enough to become a non issue.
They'll get btfo by chaos because GW can't help themselves
If you don't follow the Codex Astartes to a T, you get fricked like Uriel Ventris.
>Ultragays
>UltraCHADS
ftfy
>he says posting Raven Guard, the supreme jobber legion
>'Stealth' Marines
Like 'sneaking' a tank
say that to my faces and not over the noosphere
>Titus pinned down by the Nid menace
>suddenly an Ultramarines drop pod crashes down between the encroaching swarm and Titus
>pod bursts open and a tactical squad bursts out and begins blasting the Tyranids back
>Titus' voxlink crackles
>"Leaving the Emperor's service so soon, Titus?"
>Lieutenant Leandros emerges from the drop pod, war weathered and grizzled, face half replaced with bionics
>non-metal half of his face grins
>"The Codex Astartes does not approve of this course of action."
>turns and issues unconventional orders to the squad of Ultramarines, blowing up a mountainside or something to route the Tyranid swarm for a time
I'd like this better tbh, if Leandros sort of loosened up a bit and there was a small plotline about him redeeming himself in Titus' eyes.
>there's even a dying sanguinius on the floor
Life imitates memes
>Leandros continues to invoke the codex
>Thrax shows up with 4 fricking Black Templar in tow, a Chapter that completely ignores the codex
>Titus comes back with a chain around his arm and an Inquisitorial I
Thrax must be based as hell for an Inquisitor I'm sure they became friends
Thrax seemed pretty chill for an inquisitor. He even asked leandros if he is sure about the accusations and doesn't bother to disarm Titus. Probably didn't believe leandros for a second but figured this was a chance to a space marine captain to work for him personally to prove his innocence.
He pretty much rolls in like : "what the frick is this moron saying ? oh well, i'll get the best of this situation anyway."
the games dont make sense from a lore perspective
Dude, it's 40k, the lore doesn't make sense from a lore perspective.
I want Leandros to come back in SM2. he was young and a fricking idiot, he should have a redemption arc, not just be hand waved or fricking murked because people don't like him.
But did he have unholy assistance?
Is getting invaded by orks good all things considered because they're not sadistic?
>orks
>not sadistic
stop consuming 40k memes. orks are very much sadistic. pray you are not taken prisoner by the orks
>because they're not sadistic
No. They enslave, torture, and eat people. They don't just roll in and kill you for funsies while giggling like British soccer hooligans.
Would it be better to be enslaved by ork invaders than Dark Eldar or Slaaneshi Chaos Marines? Undoubtedly. But you're still in for a horrible time.
Youre still going to get torn to shreds, so thats relative.
moronic secondary.
Orks will gladly butcher you for fun, eat your limbs and kick your head around like a ball, and during the era of the Beast where Orks became so staggeringly organized and intelligent, they enslaved humans as livestock.
No, orks are 100% sadistic, they'll tear off your arm for a laugh and a snack and work you to death if they don't feel like eating you yet.
lol
out of all the bad guy factions nids are the best to lose to
you just get eaten thats it
The Tau invasion are the best if you want to keep living and the Tyranids are the best if you want to get it over with and die
Xenos in 40k don't have the proper neurons to feel empathy for other species, mirror neurons or whatever they're called, I'm a brainlet. Humans are the exception and its basically been trained out of them and the Tau are freaks of nature in that department.
The most reasonable aliens, all things considered are the Necrons, surprisingly.
Orks will flat out torture women and children because they know it will get humans riled up and angry. In Fantasy, Orcs are flat out implied to rape people for sport. The Emperor of Mankind didn't wipe out a few million alien races just for the shit of it or for Le Evil reasons. He got a psychic knife to the nuts a trillion times over when the Dark age began. Even Eldar were capturing humans to torture/eat/watch kill one another when their defenses fell.
Being invaded by khornites is the best choice because they'll just instantly kill you
Hardly, they might make a elaborate blood sacrifice out of you while screaming if you weren´t charging them and got mowed down right away, not to forget that by murderizing you they would condemn your soul to Khorne.
Yeah and then your soul's used to power up some daemon somewhere.
Just get eaten by the 'Nids, it's over quickly and your soul's safe
>Its over quickly
>"Emperor protects men, and if he forgets, at least the xenos will just eat you and it'll be over quickl-"
>gets sprayed down by a nasty green sludge that's actually a swarm of tens of thousands of tiny little bugs that burrow into his flesh and eat him from the inside out while shitting out a toxin that melts his body into sludge over the span of several agonizingly long minutes, if not 15 or so
>"MORALE BROKEN!" as the sergeant's horrific screams turn into struggling gurgles
I'd think the best things in the galaxy to be invaded by would be some butthole craftworld Eldar who just want the humans purged and gone.
Yeah but what if they use their psychic powers to enter my mind and reveal my embarrassing secrets
It would be Tau, things might get very controlling and such, but of all options theyre the least likely to make a show of murdering you.
Given their Hivemind and all i wouldn´t bet my money that your soul isn´t going to be swallowed up alongside.
I don't see why the Craftworld Eldar would make a show of murdering me if they just want the land. I'd rather have my brain efficiently popped by some space elf's psyker power and be done with it than be enslaved by authoritarian space fishman.
Until you get shot by a D-cannon, which sucks you into the warp if you weren't torn apart by it
But you wouldn't FEEL enslaved. If Tau aren't psychic then how do they brainwash?
soap
Etherials are some scary shit.
Pheromones
Does Tau brainwashing work on non-Taus? Human colonists they've taken into their empire have betrayed them. Vespid were on board with the greater good from the moment they first made contact. Kroot are cool with anyone, Askellian policy even says "kill them last," Tau are simply the most likely to hire mercs from outside their own species.
>Does Tau brainwashing work on non-Taus?
sometimes but the effects can be mixed
The best ACTUAL choice is getting invaded by another human but non-Imperial and non-Chaos faction which canonically is the vast majority of conflicts the Imperium gets involved in, and the ones where THEY are the overpowered high-tech side with all the overwhelming machines and firepower.
But an Imperial Guard task force swiftly quelling the Rebellion of Bumfrick Farmers #256236 doesn't make for interesting codex stories.
It's an allegory for WWI+II and the modern persecution of white men.
The spacemarine 2 boltgun sounded kind of underpowered in one of the trailers.
What weapon sounds from other vidya games would you replace the sound with?
For me it's the Prodeus shotgun I think it is fitting for a boltgun sound.
?t=96
I don't mind having my taste BTFO'd by better examples.
i still feel spoiled by Darktides bolter, the other missteps aside the guy who implemented the locke pattern bolter in that game deserves a raise
I literally forgot about Darktide when I was thinking about possible alternative boltgun noises. Is that a testament to how bad Fatshark goofed up?
yeah they goofed hard even by their standards
the game is now where it should have been at launch putting them at least 9 months behind schedule which is infuriating
Zealot is great fun to play but Professional sharpshooter has the best lines.
Where the FRICK is the Rogue Trader release date
small indie company, please understand
Optimistically in November this year barring delays and the odd frick-up.
Speaking of the Deathwatch... did Titus get shoved off there after the Inquisition got their hands on him?
>That scene in Deathwatch:Shadow breaker of an imperial loyalist silently seething about how much better his world is under Tau rule
Kek
Turns out xenos are only demonized because they don't have to resort to eating corpsetatoes for sustenance.
If you're not working 20 hour workdays and dying before the age of 23, then you haven't given your all to the Emperor.
codox ostortos dos not sopport thos okshon
>painted models since 10 years old
>read the books
>plays TWWH while traveling
>has Amazon's infinite budget
Will it be, dare I say, kino?
He'd be perfect to play Caiaphas Caine.
But also no, it's not gonna be good because whoever they get to write it will.look at the setting as something childish and immature which is ultimately beneath them.
What factions does he like?
blood angels and custodes
Custodes
He said his current army is custodes on some interview
Have Amazon do an adaptation of the infinite and the Divine and have him be Trazyn just for the laughs of people expecting him to be a human character
That book had no right being that entertaining.
It's on par with what I expect excentric morons would do given immortality and power
>be immortal space wizard with power over time and space
>get catfished
>we will never get a playable necron game
he likes custodes, but he also has the avatar of khaine so he presumably likes eldar too, which is based
He likes Custodes and Necrons.
To be fair, a single planet isn't that big for the empire and Chaos is very insidious. Titus is pretty cool but it does seem really weird that he just manifested random powers out of nowhere. For all we know, it could be a ploy of the Dark Powers. Plus, the fact Titus is around in the sequel probably means the Inquisition wasn't too moronic.
>get told if he broke the codex he'd be arrested
>breaks the codex
>gets arrested
What's the problem?
t. Leandros, the Failure of the Ultramines
I hope Guileman executes Leandros himself.
>Watcher in the rain
>Inquistor in training is tested by by having to torture and interrogate a suspected heretic
>Beats the absolute shit out of her
>It turns out to be his mother
>Gets told she was never actually a suspect and was innocent this whole time, just a test of his loyalty
>his reaction to this information is *shrugs*
Welcome to the grimdumb future that is War were declared on space. Emprah protects.
that was classic grimderp nonsense. what makes it better is the inquisitor was completely correct the whole time
Yet he is back on duty and extra pissed this time.
>Spess muhreens get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war
>Orks get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war
>Even Tau get a vidya protagonist who beats a planetary war
Eldar protagonist soloing an entire planet when? JUst kidding, that would need GW to remember they exist
eldar are some of the worst elves in fiction
Weird thing to say about eldar right after mentioning tau.
THIS NIGHA NEVER PLAYED FIRE WARRIOR
Fire Warrior was 20 years ago anon. The last time Tau appeared in a video game was 12 years ago, as a DLC character in a minigame.
I like how the MC of fire warrier is a freak even by 40k standards as you kill a fricking ton of things that a single fire warrior has no chance at killing like dreadnaughts and Chaos marines and the Tau afterwards are like "how?"
Who would win in a fight?
>a legion of chaos marines who betrayed the emperor during the horus heresy, some obliterators, a few dreadnaughts, a couple daemon princes, a chaos spawn, and a lord of change: the embodiment of the infinite eyes of tzeentch, an ever-changing form that defies all mortal logic
or
>ONE (1) singular Shas'La unit, the lowest rank in the Tau fire caste
>Khrone himself has blessed him
so doomguy?
Even in the still canon Fire Warrior novel his enemies and allies still think of him as a freak because he has the same body count as an FPS protagonist
to be fair he is what happens when Khorne decides it'd be funny to buff the hell out of a tau
That's hilarious. I heard the game's bad but is the novel any good?
I haven't read the game tie in novel but the character does appear in one other book and he's literally a shadow the edgehog-tier character.
It's kinda funny.
Eh, I think deldar would translate into vidya far better. Picture a game like Mad Max, but on Imperial World #42046 where you play as a kabalite and come blasting out of the webway on a raider, gunning down militia with your other dudes and looting everything & everyone that isn't bolted down. You then return to Commoragh to race/slaughter other psychopaths on hellions through impossible interdimensional geometry for the glory of fighting in an arena or something. Tack on a story where you rise up in the ranks of your kabal through the usual deldar means of cunning assassination to become Archon, and you have at least a 7/10 game, easily.
>no eldar corsair game where you just rob mon'keigh and other assorted inferior beings for fun and profit
>Eldar protagonist soloing an entire planet when?
Would Eldrad simulator really be that interesting?
>JUst kidding, that would need GW to remember they exist
they remember they exist enough to give papa smurf a hot elder GF anon
what else do you need
meanwhile in a less gay part of graia
fricking nurgle/slaanesh teamups
SASSY
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S
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40k is gay now.
>Has a legion of troonymarines for decades.
Now...
so is he a blank or just MC protection
Armor of contempt. You can shield your soul from chaos corruption by really, really wanting to kill chaos.
the emperor protects
Titus cannot be a blank. They don't make blanks into Space Marines and it's not something that nobody would notice from just being around Titus, let alone all the screenings and shit they do while inducting new Marines.
Titus is likely blessed by the Emperor or something. So yes, MC protection.
What's a blank?
Anti-Psyker. Psykers can draw the power of the warp into reality because they have extra powerful souls. Blanks have anti-souls that allow them to cancel out warp activity in their vicinity. Their anti-souls also make everyone with a normal soul feel uncomfortable around them so everyone hates them.
Somebody that's immune to warp frickery and who's very presence can shut down psykers.and prevent them from doing magic.
Anti-Mage
Someone completely immune to psychic powers, like the reverse of a psyker. People around them get uncomfortable, psykers can't read their mind and every psychic phenomena around them fails.
Any psyker can recognize a blank once they look at someone and figure out they can't read their mind.
Lel most psykers of value literally fall to the ground and have a seizure when in the presence of a blank, they don't generally need to find out by trying and failing to read their minds.
Basically someone who is invisible to the warp.
They're immune to chaos, but are identified by sending out this vibe that makes everyone around them hate and mistrust them on instinct.
The idea is all humans are on some degree sensitive to the immaterium, and it sets off all kinds of subconscious red flags when you find someone who has no presence.
They're super rate, and end up being shipped off to help with the inquisition or the officio assassinorium to be a culex assassin.
Human ysalamiri
>so is he a blank
no, the chapter Librarians wouldve picked up on that when he was a neophyte asap he would not make the rank of Lt. or (i assume it was a temp brevet) Captain
Blame Leandros for being a moronic nark who didn't read the codex he harped constantly about. You keep that shit in the chapter and talk to a Chaplain. You don't get the frickheads in the Inquisition involved
are the tau just the generic good guy option? they seem to ignore the warhammer trope of just being brutally efficiency focused while fighting for survival/enjoyment that all the other races seem to pursue. Is this also why they're very often disliked as i've seen?
Tau used to be played in the lore as "optimistic newcomers about to be crushed by the grimdark realities of the galaxy" but eventually moved into "sketchy authoritarian hierarchy society where big brother uses pheromones to make sure the greater good goes according to plan"
Kinda like Animal Farm in space
Ethereal Control - This concept was introduced after fans complained that the initial T'au codex described the T'au in too much of a positive light, and that they were too "good" for the grim, dark Warhammer 40,000 universe.
literally "this is why we cant have nice things" lmfao
yeah tau are just "dystopian" commies in a galaxy full of things a million times worse, and hey get a lot more attention than they should for such a relatively small faction compared to literally anything else in the series
Tau were originally introduced as a legit 'good guy' faction in the setting where they actually tried things like 'diplomacy' instead of murdering anything different on sight. They were also blatantly created to pander to the mecha/weeb audience with their heavy emphasis on battlesuits. On the table they had amazing shooting, but all Tau species models have shit melee to compensate, needing alien auxiliaries to have any melee presence. They also had some pretty bullshit tactics they could use like Fish of Fury where you could park 2 squads of Tau infantry behind some transports and make them essentially unhittable in melee due to fricky rules interactions with Tau vechicles.
Basically when they were first introduced people hated them because they were different thematically to other factions, their visual design was obviously trying to catch mechagays, and their tabletop presence was very annoying and many WAACgays flocked to the faction due to their extremely strong shooting.
>They also had some pretty bullshit tactics they could use like Fish of Fury where you could park 2 squads of Tau infantry behind some transports and make them essentially unhittable in melee due to fricky rules interactions with Tau vechicles.
never before or since has a faction/tactic caused so much TT seethe, except maybe the Iron hands periodically just being brokenly OP
and not 40k but OG The Dreaded 13th Spell getting used on lords also caused a lot of aneurysms
Really? I recall one of the later Demons army lists (8th edition?) for Fantasy was infamously, brokenly OP.
Guardsmen need some b***hin hammers to frick up the enemies of mankind with
They already do.
>Guardsmen need some b***hin hammers to frick up the enemies of mankind with
You'll get a flashlight and a t shirt and you will be happy.
>they actually tried things like 'diplomacy'
Makes sense that they'd finally give up by M42
They even now had a "kill on sight" list that includes Orks, Chaos, Tyranids and Dark Eldar (originally it was all Eldar, but the Craftworlders corrected them after stopping a genocide in a Maiden World)
please let there be another cameo of the blood ravens, it's been 6 years since we last heard from them
There was one in development but it was liberated by an unknown chapter.
>it's been 6 years
Space marine came out 12 years ago anon
>he doesn't know about the game that killed the dawn of war franchise
DoW2 was fine though
Anon, I...
Nice Photoshop anon, but we all know that there was no DoW3.
it's time to accept it anon
I repeat, there was NO DoW3.
I wish you were right 🙁
THE EMPEROR HATES JOURNALISTS
ALL JOURNALISTS DRIFT ETERNAL AND AGONISED, BLIND TO HIS LIGHT
hehe it seems that the emperor's ideology coincides with mine, those purple troonys cultists wanted to fool me again
The Inquisition is a little b***h
the only time the space wolves were cool
Space marine is a mediocre third person action game that was written by devs who knew very little about WH40k lore other then "space marines are kinda sorta like beefy halo spartans"
The thing is that wh40k fanboys are in the same bin as sonic the hedgehog fans, there has not been a single good 40k game or adaption In nearly 40 years, so when something mediocre comes along that isn't complete trash or shovelware they will praise it to the high hevans as a classic.
>there has not been a single good 40k game
Dawn of War 1 was good frick off already
Dawn of war 1 was 20 years ago
>there has not been a single good 40k game or adaption In nearly 40 years
>40 years
based moronGOD
>Single handedly wins WW2
>Chemically castrated and killed for it
The Imperium being held together by valiant people only to be fricked by the government is accurate
>gays still cry for this homo
>the chad sikhs underwent the castration willingly and are held up proudly
They could have picked a better liege, true, but the melodrama on this homosexual is dumb.
I think the Emperor is a PUNK-ASS b***h
he kicked ur ass, horus
>*obliterates u*
nothin personnel, kiddo.
>falls for the most obvious lie in the galaxy
Horus was a moron.
If I remember correctly, Horus even calls out Erebus as a deceiving liar while they're in the vision showing the 40k future and... goes with it anyways lmao
>Magnus, the second most powerful psyker in the imperium shows up and tells him that Erebus and the four obviously evil warp farts are evil
>Horus just ignores him and goes along with them anyway.
The way he fell was so fricking moronic. At least in the later books they portray him as an insecure egomaniac so it kinda makes sense.
What loyal and traitor chapter will you use in SM 2?
>What loyal and traitor chapter will you use
The best one, Dark Angels.
>Loyal
Red Talons so I can make moon daddy proud
>Traitor
EC or Sons of Horus
>Traitor
Alpha Legion
>Loyal
Alpha Legion
Innocence proves nothing.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
>Robert Girlyman
What happens to NEETs in the 40k universe?
SERVITOR
Shipped off to the front line to be murdered by an impossibly scary alien creature.
They're Blanks. Arguably the solution to all problems for humanity because Chaos can't see/interact with them.
Being an emotionless neet who never has sex is the pinnacle of the human race.
It'll be funny if there was an isekai-like story of a schizoid neet getting transported in the 40k universe and nothing really changes for him.
A NEET in 40k would easily get turned into some Nurgle cultist or some other chaos b***h.
Most humans go on life without being touched by anything and just die of old age so its far more likely a neet would just repeat his life
well lets be real there's no gibs in 40k. extra mouths are sent to the meat grinder.
just live off mommy's tendies
Something something hive-city
Actually, those answers are all wrong. 40k Nobles are basically the ultimate NEETs. Unless you're some overambitious schemer or a big boy you basically just get to do whatever you want when you want and for how long you want.
40k would be so much cooler if they would just wear their fricking helmets
In every universe it holds true, you can't see snipers.
To be fair a space marine's skull is marginally tougher than their helmets.
planet twice from 2 invading armies
that's nothing
Reminder that Necrons are fricking autistic
>Everything in Necron society takes longer, especially theatre. There's a play for the entire War in Heaven and it has a spinoff covering the story of a renegade Necron king who tried to fight the C'tan. It's over a decade long with no intermission since neither the players nor audience need to eat or go to the bathroom (also it's impossible for the players to forget their lines). Whenever this play is brought up it's clear none of the Necrons who see it enjoy it, but it does help to escape boredom.
>During their trial for possession the Orb, Orikan keeps resetting the timeline, manipulating the events so that a different Phaeron is chosen every time. This is due to his attempts to implicate Trazyn always backfire on himself (for one judge he claims he foresaw Trazyn stealing the Orb from a Tomb world set to be destroyed during its slumber and did nothing to stop it. The judge then asks why Orikan did nothing to save his fellow Necrons either.)
>At several points Trazyn and Orikan engage in rough fist fights and it states that, were it not for their metal bodies, the brawl would look ridiculously pathetic. Both Necrons were elderly cancer riddled scholars before biotransference and are TERRIBLE fighters (though Orikan was an okay wrestler before being kicked out of military school for Immortals).
>An army of Necron destroyers wages war on an Exodite world and after killing off large fauna, starting killing the environment. A wounded destroyer is shown crawling over thousands of miles using his remaining abilities to squash whatever insects he comes across.
Man I like that book so much.
>two characters get into an argument
>stare eachother down for a decade and then continue lime nothing happened
>At several points Trazyn and Orikan engage in rough fist fights and it states that, were it not for their metal bodies, the brawl would look ridiculously pathetic. Both Necrons were elderly cancer riddled scholars before biotransference and are TERRIBLE fighters
It's Professor Farnsworth versus Professor Wernstrom all over again.
>Necrons have no need to smile, yet Trazyn is described as smiling constantly. Orikan loathes this and its implied Trazyn smiles explicitly for this reason.
>Trazyn has one of the sickest burns in the entire 40k setting. While going on a centuries long undercover operation on an Imperial planet, he enslaves a normal librarian in charge of keeping planetary records. When the Librarian nears the end of his greatly extended life, he asks if Trazyn intends to destroy his homeworld. Trazyn then lists off the various ecological calamities he has seen the humans commit to their own planet as they slowly poison it. He closes it by saying "So when you ask whether I intend do destroy this world, my question is: do you really need the help?"
>Orikan sabotages an Ork battlefield exhibit on Solemnace and Trazyn is forced to crunch his way through Orks to stop a poorly made rocket ship from detonating and blowing up even more of his collection. He manages to slay the warboss he acquired for the display and the Orks suddenly start cheering him on as he shuts down the the rocket. he then collapses to the floor exhausted mentally. The Orks are still cheering even as they are frozen back in stasis.
>After nearly destroying one another repeatedly while clashing over the Orb, the Necron council finally summons both Necrons and forces them to work together on the pain of having both of their reanimation abilities canceled. The council views them working together as a greater punishment than death since Trazyn and Orikan loathe each other so deeply by this point.
>Trazyn and Orikan FIGHT ORKS in SPACE. The two are forced to go up against a huge ork pirate fleet and in the process, Trazyn accidentally wound Orikans pride. He lays out a plan to successfully counter the Ork fleet before Orikan essentially says the equivalent of "I remember how to fight Orks dammit!" It comes off as a such a weird father teaching his son to ride a bike moment.
's a sequence where Orikan and Trazyn are SITTING IN A THEATRE watching opera in a booth seat (much to Orikan's chagrin). Trazyn is too caught up appreciating the culture to realize they are standing front seat to the beginning of a Genestealer uprising until the bullets start flying. From then on the two of them stroll through the infested city which is quickly turning into a hellscape. Trazyn makes sure to collect fighters on both sides for posterity. The cause of this Genestealer infestation is a story in and of itself.
>Big Scary Robot
>Actually a bunch of depressed autistic scientists
Honestly it makes too much sense
>>A wounded destroyer is shown crawling over thousands of miles using his remaining abilities to squash whatever insects he comes across.
That's perfectly logical.
I miss Text to Speech...
I don't, glad it's dead and I'm sure alfabusa is too.
Only the first like ten episodes are good, the rest got bogged down in absolute moronation.
It's a shame that GW have to be such fricking Black folk.
The Astartes dude basically started a fan-animation revolution singlehandedly and now he's probably stuck in GW's basement dungeon.
Lets hope catalyst games doesnt do the same with battletech.
I can't believe I'm finally in a thread where anonymous are literally arguing that the Emperor allowing everyone to think that there are aliens living in space hell (but it's not space hell just a wormhole dimension with aliens in it) is the same as explaining to his generals the metaphysical concepts of daemons and corruption. But some homosexuals are just contrarians for the sake of arguing.
You know you've lost face when you rely to no one to try and have the last world.
Go READ the fricking books next time.
>losing face
>posting Anonymously
>Still trying to save face
Feel free to go read Master of Mankind and The Lost and the Damned instead of shitposting on Ganker about a setting you clearly know nothing about lmao.
>reading anything penned by ~~*ADB*~~
I think I'd rather hack my legs off with a machete tbh
Unfortunately the setting is its lore and you cant pick and choose its stupidity even if the writers are trash or GWS retcons everything.
Based, I hate that smug gay so much.
Every single one of his characters and novels is the same.
his latest HH booms was kinda decent tho
What’s with all the inquisition hate on here? Don’t you realize they are the first and last line of defence against the alien, the mutant and the heretic? They fight for your freedom.
90% of the W40K fanbase are fedoras and troons, obviously they are going to hate a group alluding to the actual Catholic Inquisition.
I mean, is chaos really THAT bad?
>Be a human soul in the Warp
>You have to spend all eternity fricking over everyone around you or else you will get fricked over
>Its an endless race to the top to frick everyone or get fricked and even if you do reach some point of power, you will just be used by a God then discarded
Considering this is modern capitalism, its pretty mild.
beeg
>Still Isn't granted Crux Terminatus in SM2
Gay chapter
>that feel when you're just some algae farmer from some shitty backwater planet and get conscripted
It's okay, you're one of many and even if you can't fire the guy next to you probably can.
>they next to him
Fricking commissars
No one can tell me the Emperor was smart or had a good plan or predicted the Heresy when the Edict of Nikaea was the dumbest decision ever
The Emperor's problem was that he tried to have his cake and eat it too, he presented himself as this godlike figure but denied his own godhood. He either should've gone full 'enlightened rational scientist man' or full 'worship me as your new god'. He did both things half-assed instead, and it bit him in the ass.
Emps is kind of an aspie.
Guess that's how you turn out when you are an immortal who was forced to watch everyone he knows die and then live through like three apocalypses in a row.
Like many 40k adaptations, the writer fricked up the lore. Protocol was for Leandros to go to his chaplain who would have looked into Titus and seen that he was fine. Leandros would get turned into a servitor for bringing the inquisition in like that.
There are plenty of 40k stories where they kill their own heroes over bullshit, like the fate of Macharius, but the scenario in this game was poorly written
The game looks good but I'm sad that we aren't getting Mark Strong back 🙁
Chaos is the protagonist of Warhammer
haha remember when sanguinius made angron cry
I love how in every single 40k thread, when lore and story is brought up, the most butthurt confrontational spastics are always the most blatantly incorrect, and are constantly proven to never have read the books or even played the game.
Stop watching "lore" videos on youtube and download a fricking pdf for once.
The Emperor is Malal.
Why did he get retconed anyway? The sons if malice were pretty cool. With how warp entities are fueled by emotion, you'd think the sheer amount of seething hatred in the galaxy would make for an interesting villain if villains.
I believe there was some copyright or ownership dispute over Malal. I can't remember the details correctly but, I think it was something to do with an employee having the rights to Malal and ultimately being able to remove him from the setting.
The person that created Malal was a freelancer that technically retained ownership of the idea of Malal.
He was soft-rebooted as Malice but Malice doesn't do anything outside of the 'Sons of Malice', but even then there's barely any lore regarding him.
Space marines are the most boring people to read about.
For me, it's the books about the Guard.
>rogue trader beta tutorial
>everything is fricked, the second in command guy is screaming NOO PEOPLE ARE HECKING DYING, SoB is screaming TOTAL CHAOS DEATH, the autistic space wizard with mommy issues asking for her mommy rogue trader, said rogue trader in front of me is actually chaos demon illusion
>FRICK YOU SATAN, LUV ME EMPERAH
>jumps in the fire and is unharmed
i know that 'faith power' happens in 40k but this part kinda felt underwhelming, i expected more than jumping in the fire, i guess
I've been avoiding all talk about Rogue Trader since I want to at least try to be hyped for it since I love the tabletop shenanigans, but I have to ask:
In the vidya, do you get to pull off the crazy rogue trader bullshit? Wacky adventures and all that? You know, back when the setting didn't take itself seriously and was just ridiculous fantasy bullshit but IN SPAAAACE
I remember that old ass /tg/ story of that one trader staging a planetary rebellion, double crossing both the governor and the tau, and looting everything from both sides just so he could have his favorite meal on weekends again.
The game plays straight the setting and the whackiest it gets so far is that one of your companions sees emotions and makes people kill themselves.
The basic gist of almost every 40k ending is that the hero saves the day at great cost, then gets rewarded with a knife in the back by the Imperium while his incompetent and stupid evil inbred leader is rewarded/elevated. Titus got let off easy, all things considered.
What is bad about the taus? I understand they consider humans to be lower than them and brainwash people softly but their standards or living are miles higher than the average human planet
Blue man bad!
>What is bad about the taus?
don't like xenos
simple as
Friendly reminder that Magnus did literally everything wrong at every single opportunity
Silence dogfricker
The path of true enlightenment lies in realising that Magnus fricked up bigly and that Russ was a massive mongoloid as well.
The Emperor did literally everything wrong more than anyone else tbh
frick man I hope there's some good bio-titan boss fights
actually they don't even need to be good, they just have to look good, give me something that isn't the same one old forge world model
suffering builds character>suffering builds character>suffering builds character>suffering builds character
what's the latest news/lore with them?
Got reinforced with primaris, more suffering pending.
Most of the firstborns are dead l. Those alive are happy for the reinforcements. Duffering builds character soon
turns out they suffer from the black rage too
>Touch raw warp energy
>No real ill effects
>Frequently takes unorthodox approaches to situations
>Unknowingly helped chaos break out onto the planet
Now, those are pretty minor red flags, but you can kinda see where they're coming from.
Good Morning
I hate Xenos
>The witchling's eyes opened wider and she began to scream when the profane artifact touched her skin. It was the scream of a newborn being tortured to death. It was the scream of a child over dead parents. It was a scream of such horror and revulsion as to deny sanity. For one instant, the inquisitor allowed a smile to grace his scared face. He knew to the Exodite witchling that there was no greater pain than this. He crushed the feeling of ecstasy with the cold fury and disgust that had sustained him from his first agonizing memories of childhood all the way through thousands of campaigns and thankless conflict. Servants of the Emperor should have no love save to the Emperor, no happiness save to the Emperor, and no loyalty save to the Emperor. All else was either meaningless or to be scorned.
>The xeno youngling didn’t stop to breathe as she screamed, blood pouring from her eyes and nose, and she did not stop screaming for a very long time. First her eyes popped, and then her head finally exploded like a seismic grenade. Partially crystallized brain matter and neural fluid erupting in a fountain of gore. A blastwave of released psychic energy fading to nothing as it struck against the inquisitor's null aura, covering the inquisitor’s face with the remains of her. The witch's body sagged in the restraints. The inquisitor breathed out a shuddering sigh as he plucked an eyeball from his cheek, and gently brushed the xeno's lower jaw, only held on by strands of flesh and muscle, with his non-mechanical hand. So sweet, yet so short. He wondered if the other prisoners' screams would be as succulent when exposed to the Slaaneshi artifact.
Based
no chaos corruption there, no sir
>null
>chaos
What?
even if the inquisitor himself is fine, he's feeding a warp god.
look at fancy pants there
give me a heavy bolter and point me to the xenos i am fricking ready
Least psychotic inquisitor
>The writer's poorly disguised fetish
>literal soulless abomination
>muh Emprah this
>muh Emprah that
>the genestealers infestation was caused by trazyn pulling an epic prank on orikan a few hundred years ago by siccing a lictor in orikan while he was mediating.
>The entire reason they were both on the planet was because they were being punished by the council to work together to find a forgotten necron tomb before the planet was exterminatus'ed by the imperium which orikan saw in his visions.
>The planet gets exterminatus'ed because of the genestealers infestation caused by aforementioned epic prank.
That's just lazy on trazyns part he already did that with the creatures from catachan
Don't forget trazyn being worshiped as a god by the locals.
Don't sex the xenos.