Saving Songbird is the right thing to do. Think about it. Yes, she lies to you, yes she uses you. Yes you are her #1 simp and you don't even get to fug her. BUT SHE DESERVES IT, YOU CHUD. Myers used her and Reed left her. IT'S 2077. BELIEVE WOMEN!
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>even Johnny starts talking about how much he admires her in the end
She's literally the author's pet
Johnny's a massive pseud and a hypocrite.
gee I wonder why a man who hates the NUSA and deserted would admire a woman who plays Meyers, Colonel moron, Reed, V, and the NUSA raw
it's a real mystery
She didn't play the NUSA at all, she got tricked into becoming their slave and her short blip of rebellion ends in her either dying or returning to slavery, but now half-braindead.
imagine a cyberpunk game without johnny reddithand and it's all about being a merc doing missions in well designed handcrafted scenarios and fricking around the world, no cinematic bs
>posts a picture with "Johnny Reddithand" on it
you fricking zoomer moron
braindamaged moron, you know what I meant, without the DMNPC following you around all the time
nah you're a fricking moronic moron who didn't realize you posted a picture of Johnny to complain about a character who has been in this game since its very inception and is all over the source books
you fricking moron
Neither of those are Silverhand you absolute faker. Fricks sake, you can see his left hand in both of those pictures.
Don't think the guy in that image is Johnny.
>johnny reddithand
ok, this might be the only time one of these silly names made me laugh
>johnny reddithand
I feel so stupid for laughing but holy shit I cant even say it out loud without chuckling
Johnny also tells you that you did the right thing if you kill Songbird.
Admire just how awful she was and how she got away with it.
Bros....I think I have a case of yellow fever.....
What is she even? A Chink? Jap?
Worse, an American
Never specified, just an Asian chick from Cyber New York
She's Korean bros.
Her name is literally So Mi
>Korean
Time to get her killed in every playthrough no matter how good or bad I am
her real name is Song So Mi (송소미), so Korean American
AMERICAN-asian
Seong So Mi, she's korean
You’re really straight like that? White girls are the autogynephile’s choice.
Decided I was gonna save her no matter what after she turned around in that dress at the party
are you into machines, son? is her crotch equally as chromed out, do you think?
you're a simp cuck. she will never frick you lmao
>you're a simp cuck.
>says NUSA simp cuck
lmao
At least Im getting paid lots of money but you will always be a cuck and a low iq troony. that b***h gets fricked by every rogue ai in existance.
so this is the mental illness required to suck Meyer's cyberwiener
Shit's fricked either way, good ending, bad ending... nothing matters, V is a nobody that didn't change anything. You can bet they'll resurrect Smasher for the sequel since he is a special donutsteel OC, and we won't hear shit about V since he is meant to suffer in hell for eternity.
>V is a nobody that didn't change anything
That was never on the cards for V. Johnny gets pissed that he didn't really change anything despite letting off 2 nukes, Yorinobu doesn't really change anything despite taking out the head of Arasaka, V definitely doesn't get to change anything.
It's a megacorp world; you either accept that or get fricked over. Meredith tells you this at the start
I am absolutely not surprised that Ganker has absolutely zero media literacy. You have no understanding of what the game is telling you.
I quite understand what the game is trying to say, I just don't like it's message is all.
Johnny's 2nd nuke (A.I. Alt) does work though. It fricks Arasaka pretty thoroughly.
Play the "Ballad of Buck Ravers" mission.
Not from anything V or Johnny does though. Johnny nukes Arasaka twice, but when 2077 starts Arasaka is still on top of the world and Saburo is still living. And Saburo can continue to live depending on what ending you choose, but it seems like CDPR is going with the PL ending as canon.
>Not from anything V or Johnny does though.
V can literally prevent that outcome from happening by bringing back Saburo, I wouldn't call that nothing.
Arasaka actually does massively get fricked by Yorinobu's actions unless you revive Saburo, as revealed in the new ending.
>V definitely doesn't get to change anything.
tf are you on about, Arasaka without mikoshi, without soulkiller, without saburo, as split as it is with enemies like militech and nusa, the don't fear the reaper ending dialogue pretty much confirms the begining of the end for Arasaka, Arasaka was nothing without Saburo to hold the empire together, without your help Hanako won't do shit, Saburo's grandaughter won't do shit, and Yoru was already destroying the company from the inside.
where i get that plushie on the couch
It was a reward for registering for some shit back at launch or something
>low IQ
>goes to work for the organization who fricks over their employees constantly
>game starts with two FIA agents who got abandoned and lied to for 7 years
LOL real high IQ there tardo
I love my t-800 wife.
I have to admit. Bare machinery gets me going. Fleshgays seethe and cope.
>I'd better trust the psychotic two faced foid president and the man who has been shown to be LITERALLY INSANE and would keep licking the hand that punched him for all eternity
small small OP brain
Reedcucks seethe
NUSA cucks seethe
enjoy your godawful ending and terrible LMG while I get the best piece of cyberware in the game and a satisfying end to the DLC.
>Saving Songbird is the right thing to do.
No, sell that b***h
anyone who trusted the NUSA deserves that cuck ending that's even worse than the Arasaka one. This game has like one fricking rule for the setting and morons keep forgetting it
>that's even worse than the Arasaka one.
How so? In the Arasaka one you literally help an old frick hijack his son's body and help him become effectively immortal. In this ending you don't help any corp, just lose your m-muh Afterlife Legend fantasy.
>give the NUSA their nuke back and help them cover it up so they can do it all over again
>get killed offscreen in some alleyway because the game is VERY clear you won't survive in NC as a nobody, it's directly foreshadowed by you getting jumped by two goons, and V is too stubborn to leave
bravo
>you won't survive in NC as a nobody
You literally survive as a nobody in the game. You're just some random outcast nomad.
That has cyberpsychosis immunity. You cant have implants in NUSA ending at all
And you didn't have implants at the beginning of the game, so what's your point.
Yeah you did, your eyes and the dataterm at minimum. You also had muscles and nerves that worked and could shoot a gun
>Yeah you did, your eyes and the dataterm at minimum.
You don't need kiroshis.
>You also had muscles and nerves that worked and could shoot a gun
After the Tower ending you just spent two years in a coma, no shit you're weak right after that. All you need to do is rest and train up.
But you could get them if there was danger to your life. Now thats gone, you get shot/kicked around and you die.
>That has cyberpsychosis immunity
V only has Cyberpsychosis immunity because he has 2 people in the same body. This is outright word of god from the creator of the tabletop game.
>I have to justify the gameplay somehow!
Nah, Mills and Pondsmith are dumb and didn't lore-accurate it.
with enough strength to get enough gigs down that fixers know and call you by the start of the game.
As opposed to a weak, useless, shithead who gets kicked around by random addicts. Your nervous system is fried. V is done for and he lost everything, and the game is not subtle about it. Everything else you imagine is headcanon cope
>V, Panam loved the Mr. Stud. Now that you're back to your tiny flesh pecker, it's better if you just don't call her. Two years was a long time, you know?
>V is done for and he lost everything, and the game is not subtle about it. Everything else you imagine is headcanon cope
The Cyberpunk roleplaying game's lore says otherwise you dumb Black person, you can literally go to Europe and get wetware mods, this has been in the RPG for decades and the dumb poles were too stupid to familiarize themselves with the setting at all. CDPR's the one with the headcanon here.
he likely cannot have biomods either you fricking doubleBlack person moron
his body literally cannot recognize or handle them
>Additionally, Biomodified humans have shown a sensitivity to cyberpsychosis and all Humanity Loss rolled from Cyberware is doubled.
Biotechnology is also extremely rare outside of Europe, where it is considered EXPENSIVE, and some parts of Asia and Africa, where it is VERY EXPENSIVE and all of them are in the LUXURY or SUPER-LUXURY Price
moron
>he likely cannot have biomods either you fricking doubleBlack person moron
>his body literally cannot recognize or handle them
That's your HEADCANON you moronic Black person, the game says cyberware.
>Biotechnology is also extremely rare outside of Europe, where it is considered EXPENSIVE, and some parts of Asia and Africa, where it is VERY EXPENSIVE and all of them are in the LUXURY or SUPER-LUXURY Price
And you're filthy rich by the end of the game and can just go to Europe. Did you think the cyberware you were getting all game was cheap?
I'm sure that if you take the government job at the end they'll be able to arrange something like that for you. They know what you are capable of and would have a vested interest in seeing you back to as full a form as you can get, if only to uphold their interests more effectively.
these morons don't get that V having a lot of eds was a gameplay concern and like all other solos, every penny he had during the game likely went into his mods
When he lost his chrome, he lost his money. He's not going to have the fortune needed to get biomods inn Europe or Reed wouldn't have been offering him a job if he was a super rich NEET
kek called it
>HURR BUT MUH V IN DER GAEM HAD 5 MANSIONS AND 56 CARS
>nooo your money disappeared because... WELL I WANT IT TO BE HOPELESS
Sorry moron but nowhere is it stated that your money vanished into thin air. And you can't argue that "ablibbitybloo not everyone has the same amount of money", you get paid quite well for all the gigs you do throughout the game.
Your next argument will be "well only speedrunning the game is canon so you actually didn't do any gigs at all" or some shit like that.
That shit was probably the most contrived part of the ending, next to V being vague about his operation to his close ones. Even if he somehow wasn't able to pay off his rent, he still should own some luxury cars from doing all those gigs. If he is hurting for money that much then he can just sell those off.
they just really wanted to reference Neuromancer (again)
Nuke is putting it lightly, strumming the black wall like it's her own clitirous is going to lead to rogue AI's fricking everything, for everyone, everywhere. You're locking a bad end on the entire setting
>This game has like one fricking rule for the setting
What? Trust nobody?
>Trust nobody?
sure, but more specifically: especially not glowies, corpos, and gubbmints.
This is a setting where there was an unironic Day of the Rope for glowies, unlike real life where it's a never ending Day of the Cope.
The game doesn't carry your baggage dude.
Let's not shit up the tagline of the fricking system with your queer bullshit.
>"Trust no one."
Corporations don't betray you, people do.
>Corporations don't betray you, people do.
>he thinks cyberpunk as a setting doesn't carry baggage
oh boy, zoomie zoom zoom
I mean
Anything's better than dying
Why would I save a troony?
>easiest option for adding 2 new romance options
>Instead I must frick panam and only panam as a straight man
Thank you CDPR.
You can mod the game to frick Judy as a man
You don't understand, they dont have DA BUDGET for voicing lines for all genitals/voice combos and uh songbird obviously is a non-binary carpet muncher, soooo there is no way that could have been done if they wanted another holywood actor to participate. Honestly frick all romances, give more young rogue
frick johnny man
Not playing this trash game is the right thing to do.
Next time don't use chud for bait, it's so easy to discard someone's wall of text with just 1 word
I saved her when I realise she and V were basically the same, and my corpo V who was going from bad to good throughout the story decides that even if he can't save himself, he can save someone in the same situation as him and maybe that makes up for the shit he did with Araska
I really like doing this before you enter the final act of the game, because you can use it as a springboard to justify a turning point in your Vs thinking - so in this playthrough of my corpo V who starts as a morally bad guy, this is one of the main motivators for him letting go of being a NC legend and just leaving with Panam and being happy with what he has - but in a future playthrough you absolutely could use the events of PL to justify V deciding they will burn all bridges and do whatever they must to survive, by any means necessary, after being betrayed by so many
Plus Reed is just a glowie puppet and the ending where you go against him is genuinely kino; I don't regret my decision
>she and V were basically the same
V is not a pathological liar and does not betray every single person he meets.
Like I said, my V was a corpo so he didn't was a liar and a pretty bad dude at the start of the game - that's how corpo works
Aside from that, the fact both V and Songbird are destined to die and are being used by forces and authorities beyond their ken (songbird - NUSA/Meyers, V - Arasaka, Alt, Johnny to an extent) - the difference is V has the power to save Songbird; and I think saving her just feels better than not - it helps that the ending you get for betraying her is probably the worst of all the endings so there's that
Yeah this was my thinking, frick that glowBlack person Reed and that granny b***h nusa c**t. And thet killed that hot redhead French chick, stringer bells fate was sealed.
Yeah I had the same train of thought. Reed was a nice guy underneath it all, but his was too loyal to the NUSA for his own good, and Meyers was a fricking psycho.
Nah, the one thing V was even as a Corpo was loyal. So Mi has never been loyal to anyone but herself in her entire life. Reed's Route shows how shitty she was to her friends before she got scooped to be spook, how awful she treated her boyfriend, neighbours, how it was never HER fault, how she'd constantly dive head long into shit out of her depth then blame everyone else because it didn't end up with her getting gold medals and eddies erupting out of her breasts. V admits they fricked up, V accepts their mistakes, V is loyal to their friends. So Mi zeroed her father figure with no hesitation. She doesn't deserve anyone elses loyalty given to her because she will never give any in turn. If you side with Reed, she gets Alex flatlined before she even realizes you betrayed her, because she planned to betray you first.
I don't care about troonybird I just want to frick the president, is that too much to ask?
>I don't care about troonybird I just want to frick the troony
moron
Don't care, she looks hot. troony or not I still want to frick the president.
Might as well want to frick Hillary Clinton. Gross.
I savwd hee because, at the end, V is literally the only single person on the planet capable of giving her freedom, and it felt nice to give someone their freedom when he couldn't have his.
Also, the cyberware reward you get later on is pretty nice.
>Songbird betrays you
>Hanako forgets about you in the Arasaka ending
The only honorabu Asian in this game is Takemura
>curses you and wishes death on you in every ending but the Arasaka one despite you saving him and paying him back
he literally tells you to rot in hell in the sun ending
The moment Reed killed the smoking hot French redhead chick, his fate was sealed. I liked him, but he was a puppet for a psychopath who wanted a walking WMD just so she could finish what she failed to do in the previous Unification War.
lol what a gay new ending, legends never die, imagine wanting to die in a bed smelling like piss when you could do one last heist on a space casino and feel the full vitality of life
and probably come out alive. Blue Eyes tells you, "What you want most is there too, so don't fail"
We'll never know because no more DLC
you're still a legend if you pick the new ending, rogue mentions it.
>she literally says "every time your crippled ass comes by the Afterlife you legend dies a little more"
morons in charge of basic b***h reading comprehension, as expected of NUSA prostitutes LOL
i mean in the other endings you enjoy it for just 6 months anyways.
also look johnny, or david. being a "legend" amounts to having a drink at a bar. no one remembers what they did many years later anyways. it's a waste of a life.
it's pretty amazing how thoroughly you missed the entire point of the game despite the game beating you over the head with it
Figures you would think the ending where your chemotherapy looking Zuckerburg ass gets a job at Night City Wal-Mart for 2 months before being ventilated by some random gang member is a good one
i don't see how. every legend gets a bad end (unless you are pondsmith's OC). you find bartmoss in a fridge smelling like shit and the only ones that remember are dumb fanboys living in the past. 2 years later there are new fixers, new legends, new boss in town (militech instead of arasaka). people move on and your legend becomes a footnote.
>V texts asking Capitan who David Martinez is and what happened to him
>They play coy on if he's dead
>You can be drinking David Martinez's at afterlife when you get a text from the one surviving member of the crew in the area
I mean, it's canon Lucy came back later, since she wrote David's Niche after, but at the time it was only the one guy
LMAO
>you're a legend just don't bring your crippled homosexual ass around my bar ever again, b***h
yeah, nice legend
how do i do the dlc and not frick up my don't fear the reaper playthrough?
you can do either ending and help who you want, just don't call Reed for help at the roof if you have that option
got it thanks, soloing arasaka with johnny and becoming legend, as god and mike intended
i want a casino heist dlc so bad
the space ending was such fricking kino. i wish the dlc would have been that and not this gay liberty dogshit
who stole the eyebrows?
You're comparing someone who, in canon, has had top of the line cosmetic surgery, to some bloated old lady who used to be hot back in the day and seemingly has never had cosmetic surgery, which isn't nearly as good as it is in Cyberpunk 2077. It's not the same at all.
idris elba is literally the one Black person i like
He's alright, honestly don't get the hype for him
just a two decade old Ganker meme
Betray Songbird
Kill Songbird
Tell Myers to go frick herself
Don't Fear the Reaper (Temperance)
>(Temperance)
ruined
>gay johnny hair
double doubleruined
So what in the frick is Mr. Blue Eyes? A rogue Blackwall AI who found a way to upload itself onto humans?
That's possible due to what Maximum Mike says about the Blackwall on Morro FM, or some people think he's Blackhand, or maybe an embedded ESA agent
we don't really know for sure though
Blackwall AI managed to hijack Blackhand's body, part of a larger conspiracy with other blue eyed AI possessed people. If you side with songbird, he is actually there, watching you go try and rescue her just like how he was watching the Peralz guy from afar
>Mr Blue-eyes has flesh colored hands
>"It's AI possessed blackhand guys!"
I have to know where you guys come up with these wieneramamie theories, specially considering that Mike Pondsmith stated Morgan Blackhand wasn't going to be in Phantom Liberty, which shoots the whole "Blue Eyes is Blackhand" shit out the water.
No, the tie-in comic is a prequel. An anti-Arasaka op by NUSA goes off too soon and ends up going breasts up. Reed's team all get offed one by one and have to exfil outta NC. What Reed doesn't know is So-Mi's been betraying them (or at least Reed since she sold out her escape route for him to Arasaka).
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Cyberpunk-2077-Phantom-Liberty-Ten-of-Swords
His model is called Blackhand in the game files, he has blackhands face and hair. No reason for the AI to not get synth skin over the hand since it doesn't want people pointing out it's in the body of an ex living legend
>he has blackhands face and hair
They don't even have the same hair parting, much less Blackhand's skunk stripe.
This is Johnny in the TTRPG
Looks like more like Swayze than Keanu
It's Bowie.
That's a hell of a goalpost move from "he has Blackhands face and hair".
>Reed's team all get offed one by one and have to exfil outta NC.
>Reed blows a 'Saka goons head off through the wall.
Kino.
>BELIEVE WAHMAN!!!
You literally sound like a male feminist cuckold.
Reed might be one of my favorite characters in the game. They really nailed the whole "Glowie who seems to be a good person but would splattee your brain on the wall if the branch asked him to".
I ended up siding with Songbird because she was the one who saw things for what they were and wanted out.
The only good thing about Reed was Johnny's commentary on him.
I quite enjoyed him. The mission where you two invade the hotel really sells the ideia that in another life, he and V could've been chooms like V and Jackie were. But as things were, Reed was too far gone in his devotion to NUSA.
They nailed Reed, dude genuinely seems to care about everyone but his duty makes him frick all those people over. They fumbled Songbird though, not one good reason to side with her even if the game makes that out to be the "good" path.
Yeah I think Songbird came off as flippant and manipulative. Reed felt like a complete character, you see the two sides of him, but everything Songbird does comes off as her trying ro haze you into helping her.
They try to walk that bsck somewhat after the ending, when she sends you the message to go to her special place, implying that she showed it to V out of sincere fragility, instead of it being a calculated ploy to further emotionally manipulate him.
I was torn until I realized that all of Songbird's choices were basically "Frick everyone else, only me". And then getting pissy and blaming everyone else if things go awry.
Like her escape plan from the stadium being that she just hotwires all the security systems blasting anyone and everyone.
And she has no qualms about the people it would kill.
Absolutely. Songbird just felt like she was hazing you the entire time (she was). Reed comes off as a truly broken man crippled by his sense of duty. I really liked him as a character.
Do you get a new ending if you send her to space? I want her there because I know it's going to be total Hell.
Or is it only available if Reed is alive?
DLC specific ending is only available if you turn in songbird to reed
No, you have to turn her over to Reed no matter which of the two choices you choose. Hell, Meyer's throws it in your face if you choose Reed and then let her commit suicide: "we needed her alive, you ain't getting shit."
If you press her further, she'll give you 5 thousand eddies, which is less than a gig done poorly
Mr. Hand's was so insanely dashing, like oh my God.
if you side with reed its not even mentioned that songbird intended to frick you over with the with the single dose cure, so it makes it seem you're a piece of shit for "betraying" her. Frick songbird and CDPR for that shit.
Kurt Hansen was very anticlimactic. Is this because I ran off with So Mi? If I side with the spooks is there more to that?
you get to fight him yourself but nothing more really
you whoop his ass and he's a cakewalk on Very Hard. I reset the game after killing him and took the other path. The airport battle is 10000x more kino.
So there was a different path after all. I did think it was weird that he got bodied while he wasn't paying attention and that was it for him. I'm glad I took the airport battle route though, it seems like it was much more fun to slash my way through an airport.
you take on Max Tac in that path but it's way less kino than Airport Security vs NUSA shock troopers vs V
It's less so a different path and more just an extra boss fight at the end of the escape
If you do upload the ICEbreaker though you get like 3 extra full length missions, get to fight maxtac and play alien isolation plus some exclusive loot
>If you do upload the ICEbreaker though
That's zapping Songbird right? I played through PL in a bit of a fugue state and am not remembering shit well.
yessir
Thanks choom
Fighting those fellas was a cherry on top, literally ONE actual tough fight in whole game
Reed did help a lot in the fight but thats because I was melee and did not go with the smoke bombs
After you kill him, you get a call from Mister Hands and get a quest to decide the fate of dog town by playing with Hansen's two subordinates vying for power by roleplaying as a cuban super assassin
you do the Aguilar quest the other way too
The one woman you go in with dies, and you fight him yourself. But it's basically a bullrush while matadoring him around with Jedi mindtricks.
Captcha: PS4 YX.
I didn't do it for her. I did it because I don't trust the glowies who are sure to also betray me when it's convenient for them. At least Songbird is in no condition to kill me and seems to have felt guilty enough that she would probably still try to help me later down the line when she is all fixed up.
That said, if it were an option, I would have rather been able to pop her then and there for her lies and taken her cure for myself.
Airport ending is kino, specially with the standoff against Reed at the end. I really liked him, but the dude was loyal to the end. He survived by miracle once. Not this time.
If you do turn over Songbird at the last second you learn that his fix for you was not all it was cracked up to be. It may have even been better to die from the relic than what happens in that end.
There should have been an option to blast Songturd in the maglev car. It feels so forced. You can shoot NPCs who beg for their life and did nothing to you in a gig, but can't zero a gonk-ass prostitute after she hazes you? Not preem, chooms.
>do Reed's ending first
>Songbird after
>both are kino
I was pleasantly surprised by how different they are although Songbird's is actually significantly shorter.
The Reed endings are stupid as hell. You get a pseudo horror game by chasing her into Militech's Arasaka knockoff that they cancelled.
Whereas leaving with So Mi means you go to the Space port see the NUSA massacre people in the attempt to get her back and then a KINO Reed stepping off the space-ship you're getting to in the rain stand-off.
Wish I photomoded that scene, because that's the only good part of Phantom Liberty beyond the Black Wall bleeds.
I took Reed's path, does Alex survive in the other one or is she fricked no matter what?
It's great. She handles that entire room herself then waits for you both only to realize that you're giving them "the slip" and she starts trying to break down the glass barrier that's overlooking the room you're in.
Wait so she lives if you choose Songbird? Through the whole thing? Damn.
yep, she even invites you back to the bar and says her final mission is to kill you before she leaves, but decides she'll just wait for the Relic to do it.
You obviously have eyes in the Reed ending too, unless they grew back organic eyes in your empty sockets. There's nothing stating you can't shoot guns.
>B-but he's not immediately very good after his two year coma
Yeah no shit he could barely stand too.
You are told explicitly that it is only combat implants and muscle boosters that V can't use anymore. Most consumer grade stuff is presumably fine.
Stop getting in the way of the doomers' headcanon.
>Reed ending has you be a normal guy that's now loaded with literal millions of eddies and has a couple dozen expensive cars
Damn dude, sounds fricking awful.
In a city where half the body can cut you in half and the other half can fry your brain from a distance? Yeah, it is.
And? How do you think people like Kerry Eurodyne survive with no chrome, moron?
>Kerry Eurodyne
>no chrome
moronbro?
>age treatments
>his chest is literally chrome in the game
>he has robotic vocal chords
How do those stop a netrunner or a blade again?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure V can still use Chrome, just not the really heavy duty combat stuff like robolimbs and sandies
basically doomed to normiedom
They explicitly say that you can't even use basic implants, anything more than your personal link could kill you.
Don't they also say that you can use neuromods?
he said "Anything more than your personal link and optics will kill you". I'm sure someone will ask Mike about it on Reddit but since Mike greenlit these stories I am sure that an easy out like that is a no-go
What exactly can your personal link do again? Is that what allows you to access Cyberspace, like the neural ports from Gibson? Or is it just the cell phone thing wired into his head that he uses to chat throughout the game?
It lets you call people, see some UI elements, transfer money, use the USB port in your hand to transfer data etc.
They say you can't chrome up because your nervous system is fried so i'm pretty sure neuro (nervous) mods are mostly not an option.
>every other ending
You die
>FIA glowie ending
You live
Simple as.
the FIA ending is hardly living, it's very slightly better than being completely bedridden forever
noooo but V is a multimillionaire and Panam will snap out of it, and Vic will open his own store again, and you'll go with Misty to Europe, and the Afterlife will welcome you back and and and and and
Your headcanon is irrelevant.
>what the game tells you doesn't count because I made up stuff in my head and I'll pretend the game is made up!
moron
>the FIA ending *cough cough* is hardly living, it's very slightly *coughs up blood* better than being completely *cough cough* bedridden forever *loses consciousness* *collapses* *shits self*
ok
Your life is miserable in the glowie ending though.
How so? You're wealthy and get a comfy office job at Langley.
>noo but these people I knew for a few weeks moved on with their lives
So what?
V is a sickly weakling and also turns down the desk job offer.
To be fair, V was only that weak and sickly on account of having woken up after a 2 year coma and immediately taking the first flight out without physical therapy. Reed also says that he can be called whenever if V changes their mind so it's not like the offer is gone for good either.
Glowie is just you ripping Silverhand out.
Silverhand taking your body is the only true ending. At least then your body isn't a ticking timebomb AND can still interface with shit.
homies who think the Reed ending is bad are the type of tards that like the suicide ending because they get to be the center of attention for 3 minutes while NPCs mourn their passing.
>the glowie ending made them so mad they've resorting the Bargaining phase of the 7 stages of grief, just making shit up
>gee why would a Night City legend, with half the city gunning for his head, have a problem with starting over the bottom again, no implants, no friends, nowhere to begin
In the beginning you and Jackie were doing chump jobs; as soon as some crackhead with a combat implant hears the Great V is back, weak as shit, and can't fight 1/100th as well as before he's dead
sorry that the game being really obvious with this shit was still too much for you lol
>big leagues shit is literally just Ganker being unable to let go of his Hispanic friend's death and making his shitty greedy goals his own
>V never gave a shit about that before meeting Spickie
>Reed ending is V having the return to normalcy, officially having an excuse to stop being an extension of Jackie
Yep, ludokino ending.
The thing I like most about the new dlc ending is that you technically got what you were looking for: You're not dying anymore, it just costed you johnny, songbird, your cybernetics, and all your friends to do it. Even then, Ganker might still make it as a fixer, or a software dev if they had high INT/Netrunning. They might even be able to hire a bodyguard depending on how well-off they were before surgery.
Worst case scenario, there's always the Net. Ganker could just become one of us and shitpost and argue all day on the internet without leaving their pod. They may have lost their cyber speed, but they can still sneed.
>Even then, Ganker might still make it as a fixer, or a software dev if they had high INT/Netrunning. They might even be able to hire a bodyguard depending on how well-off they were before surgery.
but the point is he would turn all that down just like the Langley job. He doesn't WANT that. He was a SOLO. He was maybe THE Solo in NC. It was central to his identity. Being just "a face in the crowd" as Misty puts it isn't who V is, and having all that ripped away from him is nothing less than torture. You can see it and hear it in the dialogue in the ending (he sounds so fricking whiny), and when V gets beat up by the gutter trash, and when we see V in third person disappearing into the crowd in obscurity, which is a VERY DELIBERATE shot to end on
Stop projecting your desires and headcanon onto a blank slate character.
>headcanon
bro you're so moronic that a game that spells shit out for you is going over your head
this isn't Descartes lmao
That part with Dex couldn't have been more blatant and they still don't get it
Come on homie nobody gives a shit about your post-ending fanfic that needs to be dark and depressing like your soul.
you're literally the dumbest fricking Black person ever. The game TOLD YOU explicitly and you still don't get it.
Going to the moon - blaze of glory
Getting the cuck cure - smelling of piss
It really isn't fricking rocket science, and is the most obvious shit in storytelling history
fricking money ass moron LOL
Yup, you're not getting your headcanonned biomods, you're not becoming a 'fixer', you're not rebuilding the V Brand Name, this is 100% the dying old in your bed as a nobody ending
Imagine being this mad because your romanticised suicide run ending after which you live like two weeks and die choking on your blood in excruciating pain as some long-dead AI erases your memories and psyche is proven to be bad.
You're supposed to give your body to Johnny, that's the good ending
>NOOOO THE EXPLICIT IN GAME ENDINGS ARE WRONG AND ACTUALY *HEADCANON WORD VOMIT*
lol
lol
lol
>your friends aka people who ask you to do shit for them for free all the time stop contacting you in the new ending
Really gets the noggin-a-joggin'.
just shows only Vic, Misty, Jackie, Mama Welles, and Johnny (if you did so in the game) ever really cared about you.
Only the people who knew you before you got big. Many such cases.
You gotta give it up after a while, especially if that friend is gone for 2 years.
i don't care cuz i don't fear the reaper
Reed ending
>Get to have a normal life, possibly a family and amazing stories to tell your offspring
Everything else
>troony in a bar names a drink after you
>Get to have a normal life, possibly a family and amazing stories to tell your offspring
>In Cyberpunk
>in Night City
of course the dumbest post in the thread goes to the wojaktard
>You can't leave NC because... JUST BECAUSE OKAY?
the entire world is dogshit, NC is some of the worst of it but the rest of the world isn't better off
not to mention the game heavily hints that AI armageddon is right around the corner, rogue AI are starting to use human proxies to take over human governments see: blue eyes and jefferson peralez
>Original 2077: "nooo gib good ending!"
>Edgerunners: "nooo gib good ending!"
>PL gives a "good" ending: "nooo not like that!"
Kys.
>PL gives a "good" ending
Ganker is the dumbest place on the internet, hands down
only a complete moron could think that was a 'good' ending
Man, I love when all your friends move on without you and thugs beat you up in your good endings
>nooo not the heckin' people I only knew for a few weeks my life is ruined without them
>It's a bad ending if your narcissist tendencies aren't catered to by a group of NPCs that song your praises
Consider just ending it right now.
>ends the game looking like a bald cancer patient, either Zuckerberg if male or Sinead O'Conner if female
>has a blank moron look on their face
>sinks into the sea of NPCs while sad music plays as a nig shoves you out of the way
>moron on Ganker: "GAWSH the future is looking bright!"
pfhahahahahahha
The alternative is be dead. Perhaps you should consider it.
you already have the brain activity of a corpse you fricking idiot
Lmao cope you seething moron.
>I'm not seething, YOU'RE seething!
>*proceeds to make up more ending headcanon*
lol
That V won't live long either but you didn't understand the game beating you over the head with "NC is a meatgrinder" for 70 hours so you won't understand this either
Maybe I need to post a wojak or something for it to click for you
maybe if they had had the mercs pee on you instead of just beating you up the point would've been made better to the Ganker Gankertard crew. I actually thought them beating you was a little on the nose, but then I see this thread I am forced to admit they made the right choice because it wasn't on the nose enough for the common dipshit
>Meets Misty
>Tells him to leave NC
>V says he might
>Ending shot is V standing in a crowd, seemingly accepting his "face in a crowd" fate
>"HURRRR V IS GONNA STAY IN NIGHT CITY AND ATTEMPT TO BE A MERC AGAIN BUT HE WEAK NOW SO IT BAD"
Post that wojak though, since you'll have no other rebuttal but to resort to saying nothing at all.
>seemingly accepting
you people are literally mentally handicapped lmao
>Can't prove his mentally ill contention
>"PFFTTTPTPTFFTPF YOU'RE FRICKING HANDICAPPED REEEEEEEEEE"
I'd advise you to watch the ending again, and then watch some "how to understand emotions" videos for autistic people after.
>I'd advise you to watch the ending again, and then watch some "how to understand emotions" videos for autistic people after.
pure irony, this moron will never ever understand a very simple ending with a very simple point
>le 'good ending' face
I think most people don't understand psychological impact of falling from grace that hard with no way to ever regain what was lost. Sure, V gets to live now but will always be haunted by their inability to do any of the things that once made them the best around and will have nothing but contempt for their new life, no matter for comfortable it is. Maybe one day V will get over it and learn to live with it but that day is a long way off and the road there won't be easy. Even then, it would still be nothing more than a cope because V knows what they would rather be doing.
No, going to CPDR forums or Reddit for 2 seconds shows most people do indeed get that and that's why they're mad at the ending.
Only here is so specially moronic they think the ending was a positive one.
Interesting that the people here of all places don't get that there are fates worse than death.
Well, imagine the cognitive dissonance of the NEETS here having to admit that while they themselves live through one of those fates
I don't know why anyone is saying that ending sucks. That gameplay route gives the best story, and that ending gives the most satisfying end for V. Also interesting to see a Militech-owned Night City, with Yorinobu not succeeding in his attempted coup.
lol
I gave that treacherous, lying prostitute over so my homie Reed could live.
It's truly insane how they made Songbird
>unlikable
>a backstabbing c**t
>a massive Mary Sue who can somehow pierce the blackwall and spontaneously hack the relic for no reason
>UGLY AS FUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK
and yet the whole DLC is written as if i should somehow care about her.
Easily the worst character in the entire game by a huge margin, i had zero qualms about potentially dooming her to a fate worse than death to secure my cure, maybe i'd even have done it for free.
I knew something was up with her because of how hard she was trying to get V to like her and sympathize with her. No way she was telling the whole truth.
She's quite pretty, but everything else is right, so...
You need to get higher standards man, even by jungleasiatic standards she's like a 4 at best.
Her facial features look all kinds of fricked up, especially her bizarre lips.
Looks fine?
Bros...I could have fixed her...she only lied cause she's used to everyone betraying her...I can get her to trust in others again...
Why can't V leave NC with his millions of dollars and 30 cars again?
for the same reason he got a big lecture why that life of his was over and to just let it go from Reed only to have him go "NU-UH" and get shit stomped in a gutter
he can, but he'll be an NPC, a fate worse than death
I was surprised, I did the songbird ending first, but if you do the Reed ending you don't even know she was going to betray you.
The best ending is probably the one where you kill her. If you send her to the moon the FIA is just going to find her anyway. If you give her to the FIA she becomes their slave locked in a cage. Her only option to be free is death
>If you give her to the FIA she becomes their slave locked in a cage.
You say that like that's a bad thing, she's a horrid fricking person and you are given no reason not to sacrifice her for personal gain.
she's not a horrid person, she was just a kid that did something stupid and got tricked by a glow Black person into joining the FIA, and they fricked her life up
Yeah many people have a reason for why they became c**ts, but that hardly matters to the people affected by their c**tiness.
she enjoyed all the power and adrenaline rush from doing glow Black person shit but now she regrets it? after killing everyone at that air transport and the stadium? frick off simp troony. that chink goes back into the box lmao
did they copy neuromancer again
will cyberpunk 2 about V getting another job to swim the cybaspace again
If v could let go of night city for a bunch of trailer park bums then why wouldn’t V let go of NC to go work a desk gig after losing the ability to become a solo?
Hell, headcanon me all you want I’d bet the NUSA would end up finding a way to make V useful in the field again. Corps in that setting always find a way of it benefits them
did you even read these two posts, moron?
they are saying exactly that and are shitting on the moron claiming the ending was a 'good ending'
My bad, wasn't properly following the reply chain.
>Phantom Liberty's ending was too deep for Ganker
>when it's not deep at all and is just the counterpoint for Dexter's question in the beginning of the game
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
>Potential job at FIA in Langley
>Potential job with Misty in Poland
>His mentor, Viktor, bites the bullet and works for a megacorp
>Reed constantly says "live to see another day, that's the main thing"
>Dex DeShawn literally says "can't risk it V, looks like a quiet life is better than a blaze of glory after all"
It's far from a hopeless end for V, perhaps you should understand what the game was telling you from the start.
>Dex DeShawn literally says "can't risk it V, looks like a quiet life is better than a blaze of glory after all"
and then dies you fricking moron
Lmao so? Changes nothing. The game posits that the quiet life is better than a blaze of glory, hence the ending where V gets exactly that is the "good" ending.
It's weird that you're so angry about it though. I probably shouldn't be talking to people who can't even contain themselves for a simple discussion. Take your meds.
>muh meds
take your shitty newbie buzzword diarrhea and shove it up your ass instead, homosexual
how low IQ are you to think this is a 'good' ending
seriously
LOL
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>Le low IQ
>Le seriously
>LOL
Great argument you fricking moron.
Honestly, the main question is "How badly do you want to live? What cost are you willing to accept?"
It's like, Phantom Liberty's conclusion does mean you get to live without being on Arasaka's leash, with the nebulous prospect of 'maybe if you're good we'll give you a body at some point'.
I mean it's sad but honestly I don't want to die.
>muh quiet life
>muh blaze of glory
People never mention that an actually well-written game would let players earn a third option
good thing there is also the Avocados ending, the Saka ending, and the Johnny ending too then, huh tardo?
Any ending involving Arasaka tower still gets the 'blaze of glory' tag.
they literally give you the third option
The best ending is the Arasaka one because i don't want to make Takemura sad + out of all the megacorps, Arasaka under Saburo is the only one that's guided by any sort of ideals at all, so making him its immortal ruler is a far superior option to having Arasaka led by stakeholders, or having it be supplanted by other corps.
I know this is bait but I think I want to remind everyone that Takemura is probably five times as far gone with Arasaka than Reed is with the NUSA. Don’t let that slime ball win you over
It's not bait, Arasaka is genuinely the best option as far as factions vying for world control goes.
Literally everyone else is entirely driven by profit/power maximization, while Saburo at least has the goal of preserving and spreading japanese culture.
I'd rather be ruled by an immortal genius driven by conviction than by what essentially amounts to nothing more than financial algorithms.
Is the game worth full price? I was away on business while it was on sale, now i'm back it's off sale again.
hell no, just wait for a sale or get the "free" version
Okay, guess i'll just get the "free" version.
Also can I Johnnymaxx in this game? V seems like a boring character so i'd rather just be Johnny, atleast he has interesting dialogue(as interesting as "wiener" and "frick" can be atleast).
You can use Johnny's gun all game long and drive his car but it's not very satisfying. not sure how the skill tree changed with the new update but you'd have to put all your points on pistol for more damage and miss out on hacking since Johnny didn't use that
>me on my way to saving Songbird after she lied to me for the 5th time
Biggest simp in anime history and notorious transphobe, Sanji!
Hated that b***h from the very first call, actually ignored her and dlc story ended even before i could set a foot inside Dogtown. Loaded save and decided to play along like a good goy, handed her to the authorities in the end so she would suffer some more, nobody but my V gets to be a selfish c**t in NC
There is literally nothing stopping a random gonk with bargain-bin chrome from flatlining V without their implants and I genuinely hate that for them. I get why it’s done in stories, I just hate seeing people being washed up
He can still roid up, stock up on synthmeat and get Animals massive. He just woke up from a 2 year coma though.
Animals can only get that big because of their STR enhancing chrome. same with David in the anime.
>Unlike most ripperdocs and, at this point, most Night City residents, and rather ironic to his profession, Robert is an avid speaker against cyberware.
>He has no implants and is quick to explain how they, no matter how insignificant, lead to a deterioration of the owner's body state of mind. He instead compensates for the harsh demands of the current reality by taking care of his body naturally, which is visible from the first glance, which V will not hesitate to make a comment on.
now compare him to an actual Animal gang member.
>Here's your improved body bro
The natty Ripperdoc has the best body in the game.
Anyone find some of the female Animals gangoons kind of hot? Not me that would be weird haha
Anon no man they're too muscular don't be a coomer ha ha
No, especially after seeing rhino's exact face and hair on another male NPC.
There is also a ripdoctor who stays in Heywood who is anti-chrome for more paranoid reasons. V is no ripperdoc however, but I’m sure the transition into being a civilian really can’t be too rough on the guy especially if he chooses to skip town
If only you could like, maybe, accept a desk job as a glowie at Langley... but that would be too rational and hopeful for our doom'n'gloom miseryporn simulator
It’s the sensible choice to you or me— my only thing is, with all the knowledge you know about V, do you think becoming a glowie cubicle slave is something they’d willingly choose to do, instead of futilely trying to prove they can still be something in NC even without the chrome?
I played Corpo V so it makes sense for him to go back to being a desk jockey. His "NC legend" dreams should have died when The Heist failed, and as Rogue says in the credits, he got his wish he just shouldn't show his face in the Afterlife to not ruin that.
Which is fricking great because that's exactly what Blackhand does.
The absolute state of Ganker to think it's a bad end.
I hate to head canon on you but with the way V’s personality is, it’s hard to believe that he’d canonically be anything BUT a street kid. (And a woman too, if you count marketing)
Male Corpo V is pretty convincing as canon if you played it. Nomad V makes sense at times with how V is treated as a newcomer to Night City; I'd say Streetkid V is the least compelling.
corpo v came from charter, also alot of corps come from streets or former mercs
Corpo is pretty interesting in Cyberpunk, it really is just all business less focus on "legacy" and shit and very in the present. The corpos you run into and can make deals are more likely to be honest and above aboard (as long as you dont get set up as a patsy.)
Corpo V might cut it but I don't think street kid or nomad V have what it takes to have a desk job.
Then it just proves that V is not your character, but just a moron that's written to be as stupid as possible in all possible incarnations, depending on the ending
yeah anon, I think the ship of V being literally (you) sailed a looooooong time ago.
Or just join the nomads and use gun. Because gun is good and you don't even use cybernetics for it. Gun shoots. You shoot gun. You do it well enough and with enough strategy you don't need to speed up your perception of time to a crawl or blow people up with your mind. But no, your incredibly specific disability prevents you from doing anything more than stumbling through life. Because plot.
Animals also use tons of chrome, not just steroids alone.
V with roid muscles would still get wrecked by any random goons with even low tier strength or reflex enhancing implants, not to mention that V's durability would be extremely low.
>Myers used her and Reed left her.
Eh. Knowing info from the tie-in comic lets you know Reed leaving her just makes them even. She betrayed him first.
What tie-in comic? Did they seriously epilogue their fricking DLC outside of the game?
V in the PL ending seems like a giant crybaby homosexual too lmao and he leaves all of his friends in a worse place just to get rid of Johnny and "live". See you in space, chooms
>Side with NUSA
>Arasaka still loses Mikoshi but Yorinobu is ousted from the company, Arasaka has to turn tail and run back to Japan
>Without Arasaka, Night City will go into a death spiral and cease to exist in 10 years tops
>NUSA will probably reclaim it, President owes me a personal favor
>Get to live quietly in Tibet petting yaks and shagging Misty
Someone explain to me how Tower is NOT a legend end? In everything else, the best thing you do is kill Adam Smasher and then die, in Tower you kill NIGHT CITY AS A CONCEPT and then live to tell about it.
Frick Johnny Silverhand, he blew up one building. I removed the worst city on planet earth from the surface.
NC could survive with Millitech and the other corps filling in the vacuum. Not even another unification war could destroy NC. Too many people are still there buying into the "City of dreams" meme.
Night City only got to be a free city because Arasaka was rooted in their like a tick after the 4th corpo war and getting them out would have been apocalyptic. Them leaving on their own and Militech coming in, especially Militech after they started getting nationalized, just means that the NUSA will absorb Night City.
NTA but Millitech is literally the NUSA government, without Arasaka it would certainly end up being absorbed into the NUSA.
If that's an improvement, i don't know.
Probably not really.
I think Detroit is a good comparison to make. It too was once a city of dreams and a hub for industry. After the industry left, it all went to shit and became a shell of its former self. I imagine this is what will happen to Night City too.
Detroit is bad now because it's full of feral blacks.
They are a symptom rather than the true problem.
Yes and no, Detroit obviously has many innate issues but they're multiplied by the fact that a certain demographic within it is absurdly disproportionately violent.
Look at El Salvador as an example, for decades the country's economy was stunted because nobody there could feel safe. Who wants to set up shop in a place where they have to fear for their life whenever they leave the door?
Then Bukele got rid of all the gang members and now they're experiencing massive growth.
The same could potentially happen to Detroit again one day, but a large percentage of its population is savage animals that keep the city perpetually immiserated by making business there unviable.
Don't fear the Reaper is still the true ending, suck a black dick reed gays and asiatic simps
Don't fear the reaper is ten times more satisfying if you were a corpo
im just realizing now the game starts in arasaka tower
Johnny is very perceptive about everyone other than himself
my first run through i didnt know what i was doing but trusted reed over her and killed her in the end i think its actually the best ending
it would've been best for everyone for her to die, but I really doubt it'd be canon
Militech needs its edge over Arasaka for the excuse of the next game, possibly during a corpo war
Am I correct in saying that people who have 0 augmentations are immune to netrunner frickery?
They can make your phone explode I guess
Fair enough
to their bodies? probably, but I imagine your bank account is still vulnerable, as well as any net linked tech in your home.
Can anyone explain to me how the frick Reed survived this?
He's half as lucky as V is
Forgot picrel
MUH DUTY, MUH NUSA, MUH HONOR > guns
It's a shame that it's rather short but I liked the Killing Moon because you're basically playing as two cripples trying to survive against the government. Shit felt like Elfen Lied or some shit.
Also, love the Warframe reference, if that was intentional.
If you don't get what I mean, this sequence is practically the Second Dream finale where you cradle an ultra powerful psychic teenager while the player becomes a conduit/proxy for his/her powers and you move around blasting enemies coming at you.
It's a fricking shame we didn't inherit Songbird's Blackwall frickery powers. Would have been cool.
I mean you can Kinda get it with the implant found in the other path, but only a mere shadow of it
Finally, I know it's a controversial opinion, but ultimately I liked this ending because for once it shows V isn't a selfish bastard and just want's to help a person even at the cost of his/her life. Besides, you get to mourn and toast Reed later on with Alex and decide that his blood was on Myer's hands.
The other quest that felt this was way not receiving any reward after you beat Cesar and telling him his family is more important.
When you do Killing Moon, does it let you continue with the MSQ?
MSQ?
the main story, sorry, ff14 brainrot is setting in
Yes. Basically V says to Johnny that you're both back to square 1 but Johnny commends V for fricking with both Millitech and the NUSA. Honestly, I think doing Phantom Liberty should be reserved for Act 3. Doing the quest at Act 2 gives you so much xp that I finished it at around lv54, making the rest of the game a complete cake walk, especially since PL encounters are generally harder than those in the main game, especially when it comes to enemy volume
Meant for
Thanks, anon. Appreciate the response.
>making the rest of the game a complete cake walk, especially since PL encounters are generally harder than those in the main game, especially when it comes to enemy volume
even on very hard its pretty easy, the other path atleast has an ayylmao isolation rip off section that ment that the black wall really isnt some shit even uber V can fight
>Honestly, I think doing Phantom Liberty should be reserved for Act 3
I think that's the point. It's supposed to fill in the lackluster Act 3.
I suppose, but you access it early on in Act 2 and I was curious and just went with it. Big mistake apparently.
the truth is you get cucked in the dlc no matter what you do
saving songbird is the canon DLC ending
don't fear the reaper is the canon main story ending
there is no arguing this
What is with netrunners wanting to go to the moon? First Lucy and now Songbird.
Moon is run by space Black folk (like actual Africans) and is generally seen as out of most corpo reach.
The only songbird I will simp for