I have no interest in garrysmod or garrysmod type games, but surely if I did, I wouldnt be hpldong on hope for S&box, id already be playing something that fills the same gap
It's not bait
Garry is building S&Box to be very close to how Roblox functions where you can develop game modes / maps and host them, and players can join/experience a wide variety of genres from quality made stuff to 90% shitposts made by 12 year olds.
Fortnite had just recently entered that space with how user generated context works
it will have a much stronger technical base than roblox and fortnite, especially with the new hammer level editor (its that good).
hopefully it will attract devs by being "the easiest way to make a high quality multiplayer game"
Nobody gave a shit when it was announced, nobody gave a shit when testing began, nobody gives a shit now, nobody will give a shit when it releases.
Like you said, Roblox and Fortnite both cover what S&Box tries to do better than S&Box.
>it will have a much stronger technical base than roblox and fortnite, especially with the new hammer level editor (its that good).
Maybe stronger than Roblox, but that isn't the point of Roblox anyway. Fortnite is getting (or has already gotten) what is basically Unreal for Fortnite, so that's a much stronger (and especially wider) technical base than Garry or Valve can make. Valve's not exactly been committed to technical projects for almost a decade now so they're not about to start now (and are unlikely to have the talent pool to compete with even Unity after all these years), and Garry is a moron.
Garry's Mod isn't happening ever again, the landscape has changed too much, it's the same reason games struggle to get proper modding communities nowadays.
i hate these fanboy-chumchum looking thumb people. garysmod will continue and this will be dead on arrival
took way too long and ruined its initial perception with the uncooked hotdog men. Valve 100% handed him source 2 early with the expectation he'd have something ready a year after HL:A, tops. Fortnite has started to retroactively turn itself into a games platform to great success and will be impossible to compete in the same niche against. I could see it taking off with smaller companies / independent teams (read: discord homosexuals) as a less locked-down platform, but it's not going to be as big a player as Gmod was.
you know s&box has had realistic-style character models for almost a year now, right? they just aren't the default, but any game can use them
you know you can take english lessons online, right? INITIAL PERCEPTION. if you show someone your first trailer and it has only hotdog men, they're going to presume you only have hotdog men. That's enough to turn off a large part of the Gmod players. Setting them as the default is fricking moronic too - all people wanted was more Gmod, they already had Roblox.
Shit looks dumb and i know garry made it that way because his toddler preferred roblox over a source engine look a like game
Btw the kid still prefers the kid game
>small percentage
jesus christ you really just live ina bubble and ignore everything that doesn't line up with your views?
the biggest complaints about this game have been the hideous character models and the fact that it's taking so long to come out that no one will give a shit when it's done, that's it, and you're going to pretend that one of those problems just doesn't exist because you don't agree?
no, normalgays think they look funny therefore they will play it anyway
just look at how many people jumped on the open key invite testing, you are obviously projecting your disliking of the game onto others
Fortnite is clearly aligning itself to be like Roblox. It's putting a huge focus on user created content and different game modes. The battle royale is a back seat now.
took way too long and ruined its initial perception with the uncooked hotdog men. Valve 100% handed him source 2 early with the expectation he'd have something ready a year after HL:A, tops. Fortnite has started to retroactively turn itself into a games platform to great success and will be impossible to compete in the same niche against. I could see it taking off with smaller companies / independent teams (read: discord homosexuals) as a less locked-down platform, but it's not going to be as big a player as Gmod was.
>GarryN is the only fricking guy with access to source 2 right now, and its all waiting on garrysmod2: Rebrand edition FEATURING NOT HALF LIFE
Valve needs to cut and run, we could have all of their source games ported to source 2, we could have Dark Messiah of Might and Magic 2, but instead theyre gonna let Garry fail to launch for the next 5 years before anyome gets to even touch it. Source 2 will be antequated by the time anyone cool gets their hands on it
No one will talk about a game called S Shift 7 nd Box ever because people are moronic and don't know how to type & and if you just say Sandbox they wont know what that's referring to specifically
The best part of Gmod was that it was very free-form. You built the game yourself using all the mods at your disposal, and gamemodes were basically just those mods in a specific order.
S&Box currently lacks this strength as their development seems laser-focused on building their Roblox "game platform". It's like they're trying to create the next TTT and Gmod Tower before the game releases; the game is in development purgatory because the developers are too fixated on building a city without a population. I get they need to avoid deprecation hell but they seem too focused on sweating the small stuff and gimmicks while neglecting core features.
I'm not the first one to say that all they needed to do was make Garry's Mod but in HD and the content will come after.
>I get they need to avoid deprecation hell but they seem too focused on sweating the small stuff and gimmicks while neglecting core features.
reminds me of yandere simulator when you put it like that.
No because it's trying to be able to do too much without doing any of it itself; just creating the possibilities for those things.
Worst of all, it can't even seem to be able to be finished because it keeps bloating in features.
It's the chinese ghost city of video games. Garry seems to really have his head in his ass about being the programmer to end all programmers, he seems to believe that nobody else can implement anything without a pre-programmed framework that perfectly fulfills all needs
>why the frick would anyone migrate to this shit when you can just play gmod already
probably due to the fact that the source engine can only do so much as it is and plus source 2 would allow for much bigger maps.
which makes me wish they simply just ported gmod itself over to source 2.
Dead on arrival if they do
The only reason this and SFM persisted this long is because you could dump whatever stupid models and assets you wanted in after converting it to source formats and make dumb shit
Why is gayry trying so goddamn hard to kill literally everything that made his fricking game an enduring success?
>Finally get a way to access Source 2 >No more SDK >Hammer is up to date with it's tools >Other modern features and easy ways to add script/ code. >It's in the hands of Garry >He's trying to compete with other engine platforms >Will totally fail on marketing this to the coming generation >People are comparing it to Gmod and distancing themselves from a platform that could be one of the best in modern time.
Why is fate so cruel? If anything I hope Garry just leaves it up if he fails, but I fear that he'll do something stupid and no one will ever have access to Source 2.
>No more SDK
valve refusing to release a proper source 2 sdk after THIS fricking long when we could've been experiencing a source modding renaissance this entire time is probably the most infuriating thing they've done in the last decade. cs2 gave them the perfect excuse to finally release SOMETHING but nope, that'd require actual effort so naturally it'll never happen. god fricking damn it gabe
>No more SDK
valve refusing to release a proper source 2 sdk after THIS fricking long when we could've been experiencing a source modding renaissance this entire time is probably the most infuriating thing they've done in the last decade. cs2 gave them the perfect excuse to finally release SOMETHING but nope, that'd require actual effort so naturally it'll never happen. god fricking damn it gabe
Jesus I forgot about Cube World. People need to give up on their Minecraft clones and just pick a version to turn into their own thing like those guys that turned one of the alphas into "what if Minecraft but it had a consistent adventuring theme"
Speaking of Cube World, shit restarted development earlier this year out of the blue. Wollay wants to do something in the spirit of the alpha build but even if it might turn out good this time, shit's like a decade too late.
Trying to compete with Roblox is R E T A R D E D.
Roblox can be played on a $30 smartphone and its free. He's trying to capture an audience that just isn't there. I mean really I don't get it? He wants to be the mature Roblox?
He could have just released GMod 2 with Alyx assets years ago and it would have done great. He should really pull his head out of his ass.
He recently pulled all invite codes because he's going to rework even more core systems so expect the fricking thing to take another 2 or so years to enter open beta proper.
He's out of his fricking mind.
I don't blame Garry for being a moron. We all knew he was a moron. A very arrogant one. Really he didn't even come up with the idea for GMod.
I blame valve for playing favorites and giving Garry exclusive access to source 2. Give someone else a chance man. Just release a real SDK FFS.
I got into testing and it was such a nothingburger.
The "workshop" was just ponygay shit and discord/reddit memes like obamium. And the game itself looked absolutely moronic with the realism of Source2 and cartoony fallguys characters.
Unless there will tons of porn modes and coom models it's destined to flop.
The build-in editor is kinda cool though.
>gmod but with a moronic 90s cartoon "artstyle" and less interactivity than a sandbox game from 2006
Did Garry get a case of early-onset dementia? Because I can think of no other way he managed to sink so low so fast.
As a gmod dev who complained about s&box, i like the new engine with more stuff allowed like level polygons, but i hate how there are no assets. It's like gmod or roblox, but without any assets to use, so youd better know how to make textures and models, or be a part of a dev group.
Imagine all the bullshit players are going to have to download to connect to servers.
Its already insanely bad on modern Gmod but with how barren S&box is its going to be several times worse.
also the sdk at the moment sucks ass.
source used command line tools until better programs were made like vtfedit and crowbar.
source 2 tried to combine this into one toolbox program, but from what i know it's not open to external tools, and theres no documentation. i don't even know if source 2 has shaders from source 1. source 2 also gets rid of "obsolete" entities like func_illusionary, a leftover from goldsource, which is dumb because func_illusionary is useful to make brushes have no collision without the extra data of a func_brush.
>Fortnite and roblox
Zoomer bait thread, lol
I have no interest in garrysmod or garrysmod type games, but surely if I did, I wouldnt be hpldong on hope for S&box, id already be playing something that fills the same gap
Gary it's too late, dare I say it's ................................ joeover
Fortnite has user created gamemodes and maps now too. There's a whole editor for it and everything. Frankly it also has a vastly superior artstyle.
It's not bait
Garry is building S&Box to be very close to how Roblox functions where you can develop game modes / maps and host them, and players can join/experience a wide variety of genres from quality made stuff to 90% shitposts made by 12 year olds.
Fortnite had just recently entered that space with how user generated context works
As someone with access to it, that's a pretty good description though more so on the Roblox part.
Of course not, garry's a fricking slow homosexual and missed the boat by years
it will have a much stronger technical base than roblox and fortnite, especially with the new hammer level editor (its that good).
hopefully it will attract devs by being "the easiest way to make a high quality multiplayer game"
Nobody gave a shit when it was announced, nobody gave a shit when testing began, nobody gives a shit now, nobody will give a shit when it releases.
Like you said, Roblox and Fortnite both cover what S&Box tries to do better than S&Box.
>it will have a much stronger technical base than roblox and fortnite, especially with the new hammer level editor (its that good).
Maybe stronger than Roblox, but that isn't the point of Roblox anyway. Fortnite is getting (or has already gotten) what is basically Unreal for Fortnite, so that's a much stronger (and especially wider) technical base than Garry or Valve can make. Valve's not exactly been committed to technical projects for almost a decade now so they're not about to start now (and are unlikely to have the talent pool to compete with even Unity after all these years), and Garry is a moron.
Garry's Mod isn't happening ever again, the landscape has changed too much, it's the same reason games struggle to get proper modding communities nowadays.
Nah, it's DOA. The ugly art style definitely doesn't help.
you know s&box has had realistic-style character models for almost a year now, right? they just aren't the default, but any game can use them
you know you can take english lessons online, right? INITIAL PERCEPTION. if you show someone your first trailer and it has only hotdog men, they're going to presume you only have hotdog men. That's enough to turn off a large part of the Gmod players. Setting them as the default is fricking moronic too - all people wanted was more Gmod, they already had Roblox.
brand awareness > not looking ugly to a small percentage of people
>to a small percentage of people
I don't usually post but I just want to confirm they look ugly as frick too.
Shit looks dumb and i know garry made it that way because his toddler preferred roblox over a source engine look a like game
Btw the kid still prefers the kid game
>small percentage
jesus christ you really just live ina bubble and ignore everything that doesn't line up with your views?
the biggest complaints about this game have been the hideous character models and the fact that it's taking so long to come out that no one will give a shit when it's done, that's it, and you're going to pretend that one of those problems just doesn't exist because you don't agree?
>small percentage
Coping this hard isn't healthy, Garry
no, normalgays think they look funny therefore they will play it anyway
just look at how many people jumped on the open key invite testing, you are obviously projecting your disliking of the game onto others
>fortnite
I can see the roblox similarities but as far as I know fortnite is just battle royal, sandbox, and a forge looking mode.
theyre supposedly working on custom game mode support with unreal engine Fortnite edition or whatever
Fortnite is clearly aligning itself to be like Roblox. It's putting a huge focus on user created content and different game modes. The battle royale is a back seat now.
garry will die before its released
i hate these fanboy-chumchum looking thumb people. garysmod will continue and this will be dead on arrival
>garysmod will continue
Garry's Mod is FRICKING DYING.
Please fail please fail PLEASE FAIL
took way too long and ruined its initial perception with the uncooked hotdog men. Valve 100% handed him source 2 early with the expectation he'd have something ready a year after HL:A, tops. Fortnite has started to retroactively turn itself into a games platform to great success and will be impossible to compete in the same niche against. I could see it taking off with smaller companies / independent teams (read: discord homosexuals) as a less locked-down platform, but it's not going to be as big a player as Gmod was.
>GarryN is the only fricking guy with access to source 2 right now, and its all waiting on garrysmod2: Rebrand edition FEATURING NOT HALF LIFE
Valve needs to cut and run, we could have all of their source games ported to source 2, we could have Dark Messiah of Might and Magic 2, but instead theyre gonna let Garry fail to launch for the next 5 years before anyome gets to even touch it. Source 2 will be antequated by the time anyone cool gets their hands on it
>Source 2 will be antequated by the time anyone cool gets their hands on it
Already is. The future is Unreal Engine 5.
no thanks Tim
Lol. You're a moron.
whatever helps you sleep at night, thanks for the porated copy of Kingdom Hearts
NOOOOOOOOOOO
half life level editor vs unrealed, its fricking still the year 2000, nice
Weren’t some anons giving out codes?
Garry can go frick himself with how he handled giving access to s&box. I seriously hope the game fails now.
why did they delete the forum
No one will talk about a game called S Shift 7 nd Box ever because people are moronic and don't know how to type & and if you just say Sandbox they wont know what that's referring to specifically
litterbox
The best part of Gmod was that it was very free-form. You built the game yourself using all the mods at your disposal, and gamemodes were basically just those mods in a specific order.
S&Box currently lacks this strength as their development seems laser-focused on building their Roblox "game platform". It's like they're trying to create the next TTT and Gmod Tower before the game releases; the game is in development purgatory because the developers are too fixated on building a city without a population. I get they need to avoid deprecation hell but they seem too focused on sweating the small stuff and gimmicks while neglecting core features.
I'm not the first one to say that all they needed to do was make Garry's Mod but in HD and the content will come after.
>I get they need to avoid deprecation hell but they seem too focused on sweating the small stuff and gimmicks while neglecting core features.
reminds me of yandere simulator when you put it like that.
I enjoyed messing around with it until Garry decided to do a full fricking (re)write/expansion of the scene system.
So now I'm just waiting for that to settle in.
No because it's trying to be able to do too much without doing any of it itself; just creating the possibilities for those things.
Worst of all, it can't even seem to be able to be finished because it keeps bloating in features.
It's the chinese ghost city of video games.
Garry seems to really have his head in his ass about being the programmer to end all programmers, he seems to believe that nobody else can implement anything without a pre-programmed framework that perfectly fulfills all needs
a le wacky physics game isnt notable anymore. why the frick would anyone migrate to this shit when you can just play gmod already
>why the frick would anyone migrate to this shit when you can just play gmod already
probably due to the fact that the source engine can only do so much as it is and plus source 2 would allow for much bigger maps.
which makes me wish they simply just ported gmod itself over to source 2.
well according to playtests that shitty gmod gunplay persists to whatever the frick garry is doing with the netcode
also apparently s&box will not have a steam workshop and might crack down on anything that is copyrighted.
Dead on arrival if they do
The only reason this and SFM persisted this long is because you could dump whatever stupid models and assets you wanted in after converting it to source formats and make dumb shit
Why is gayry trying so goddamn hard to kill literally everything that made his fricking game an enduring success?
>Finally get a way to access Source 2
>No more SDK
>Hammer is up to date with it's tools
>Other modern features and easy ways to add script/ code.
>It's in the hands of Garry
>He's trying to compete with other engine platforms
>Will totally fail on marketing this to the coming generation
>People are comparing it to Gmod and distancing themselves from a platform that could be one of the best in modern time.
Why is fate so cruel? If anything I hope Garry just leaves it up if he fails, but I fear that he'll do something stupid and no one will ever have access to Source 2.
>marketing
why does he need to market a game engine in its alpha stage
>No more SDK
valve refusing to release a proper source 2 sdk after THIS fricking long when we could've been experiencing a source modding renaissance this entire time is probably the most infuriating thing they've done in the last decade. cs2 gave them the perfect excuse to finally release SOMETHING but nope, that'd require actual effort so naturally it'll never happen. god fricking damn it gabe
go in their discord, all the devs are troons. Hopefully one of them just frickin leaks it
Whats stopping Valve from releasing it?
hl3
>sampersandbox
wut
>All this talk about source 2
>No one's going to mention how hytale has been in the (re)works for years now
Lots of promise, no substance.
the difference is i have sbox installed on my computer right now
the insomniac hackers should have hit hypixel instead
Hytale is vaporware anon
I've given up years ago.
I just wonder if it's going to be cube world 2.0
Jesus I forgot about Cube World. People need to give up on their Minecraft clones and just pick a version to turn into their own thing like those guys that turned one of the alphas into "what if Minecraft but it had a consistent adventuring theme"
Speaking of Cube World, shit restarted development earlier this year out of the blue. Wollay wants to do something in the spirit of the alpha build but even if it might turn out good this time, shit's like a decade too late.
doubt it, gmod was only popular because it came out at the right time
also the pickle rick ocs will never compare to gman
Trying to compete with Roblox is R E T A R D E D.
Roblox can be played on a $30 smartphone and its free. He's trying to capture an audience that just isn't there. I mean really I don't get it? He wants to be the mature Roblox?
He could have just released GMod 2 with Alyx assets years ago and it would have done great. He should really pull his head out of his ass.
No, not unless Gary stops being moronic and make it Gmod 2 like people want
Holy shit it still isn't out yet? The frick is he waiting on?
He recently pulled all invite codes because he's going to rework even more core systems so expect the fricking thing to take another 2 or so years to enter open beta proper.
He's out of his fricking mind.
I don't blame Garry for being a moron. We all knew he was a moron. A very arrogant one. Really he didn't even come up with the idea for GMod.
I blame valve for playing favorites and giving Garry exclusive access to source 2. Give someone else a chance man. Just release a real SDK FFS.
They needed to find someone that had JBMod levels of bluffing ability to light a fire under his ass
More likely, Garry will be that person to whomever makes the true Gmod successor.
The sausage people are so fricking stupid. JUST DO GMOD 2
>Gmod 2
with what assets? HL2's assets made Gmod, and to a lesser extent the rest of Valve's Source 1 library.
With Alyx assets, Einstein.
there's a fraction of the content in alyx compared to even base hl2.
he want's to play as Alyx's hands.
I got into testing and it was such a nothingburger.
The "workshop" was just ponygay shit and discord/reddit memes like obamium. And the game itself looked absolutely moronic with the realism of Source2 and cartoony fallguys characters.
Unless there will tons of porn modes and coom models it's destined to flop.
The build-in editor is kinda cool though.
people complain about WSG Tumblr art styles but this ugly-on-purpose Double Fine indie art style is just as atrocious
>gmod but with a moronic 90s cartoon "artstyle" and less interactivity than a sandbox game from 2006
Did Garry get a case of early-onset dementia? Because I can think of no other way he managed to sink so low so fast.
The art style is fricking horrible and Garry is a way bigger homosexual than he used to be. S&box will release and nobody will play it.
Black person who cares about the style of the default assets
As if people making games in this shit wont import their own
If this is monetized like Roblox, no way in hell will I even install it. I'll stick to Gmod because unpaid mods should be standard.
>Valve releases Source 2 tools
>Someone makes a proper gmod2 in a month
>S&B shit gets overshadowed by kino Gmod successor
As a gmod dev who complained about s&box, i like the new engine with more stuff allowed like level polygons, but i hate how there are no assets. It's like gmod or roblox, but without any assets to use, so youd better know how to make textures and models, or be a part of a dev group.
Imagine all the bullshit players are going to have to download to connect to servers.
Its already insanely bad on modern Gmod but with how barren S&box is its going to be several times worse.
also the sdk at the moment sucks ass.
source used command line tools until better programs were made like vtfedit and crowbar.
source 2 tried to combine this into one toolbox program, but from what i know it's not open to external tools, and theres no documentation. i don't even know if source 2 has shaders from source 1. source 2 also gets rid of "obsolete" entities like func_illusionary, a leftover from goldsource, which is dumb because func_illusionary is useful to make brushes have no collision without the extra data of a func_brush.