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not like it's an MMO, people play when it comes out and for a bit after DLCs.
>barely any postgame
>barely any method for daily player retention
>people get bored a week after finishing the story content
gee I wonder why
Only the first one is an issue.
GaaS is cancer.
Daily player retention isn’t only GaaS shit. Pokémon and daily events have been almost ubiquitous since Gen 2 with shit like Berry Farming, special spawns, daily NPCs, and various gimmicks like poke pelago. Gen 9 is oddly lacking in things like that. All there really is is Raids, PvP, breeding, and Shiny Hunting. They did just add Ogre Ousting but it being basically locked to multiplayer for higher difficulties makes it harder to get a lot of playtime out of.
>All there really is is Raids, PvP, breeding, and Shiny Hunting.
Eh, people think that but there's actually decent amount of replayable content, at least for a modern first game.
The gym tests with minigames like the sunflora hide and seek and olive rolling can be replayed with a hard mode and repeated for items.
The team star bases are the best way to farm LP and then there are the boss rematches
Of course there's the tournament and the instructor sidequests
Daily auctions
And catchable titans
I suppose it's not a lot compared to BW, DP and RS but compared to XY, SM and SS our cup runneth over with varied content.
Not to mention Indigo Disk seems to be adding a bit more on top like the flight minigame and room customization.
I got more enjoyment out of Gen 8 than this shit, I'm not even joking
Same. It genuinely made me play SWSH again
Same. SV is that bad.
This unironically. Dynamax adventures was actually fun and raids were slow but they worked. SV raids are always bullshit you have to do solo and the boss can cheat all the turns he wants... Not fun and laggy is what gen 9 was.
The Scarlet and Violet Raid battles have got to be one of the worst experiences I've had on the Switch, like Holy fricking shit its bad, did they even playtest this bs.
Anything related to NSO is counted among my worst experiences on the Switch. That shit would have been embarrassing in the Wii days. Seriously, the PS3 offered free online that would still blow NSO out of the water.
I somehow cannot argue with this
Why the actual frick is GF refusing to put in literally anything resembling a postgame?
No battle tower at all when that’s been a staple since fricking CRYSTAL? If fricking ILCA can make a terrifying battle tower then GF can at least put one in
>defending SWSH
Let’s not be moronic. SWSH looked a bit better and had a postgame, but it was sterile as frick.
>ILCA can make a terrifying battle tower
Sure, as long as you mean “terrifyingly bad”. ILCA can’t into 3v3 singles balancing. Pumping up the difficulty on top of removing a lot of team building options is an easy way to make an already volatile format even more so. Tips into “frustrating” territory when every other opponent has a non insignificant RNG chance to beat you even if you have their team lists pulled up and play your team perfectly. As the player, RNG is heavily weighted against your favor because your ultimate goal is to maintain a streak. Things like rampant sashes (and multiscale) are also an issue.
>Why the actual frick is GF refusing to put in literally anything resembling a postgame?
Because they unironically believe that they don't need to make postgame when online battles exist.
Hope you can inject or have a friend to supply you with all of the meta staples from SWSH, its DLCs, Legends and the version of Paldea you don't have, or your enjoyment and ability to compete against most players is inherently tied to how much of a paypig to the Pokemon franchise you are!
Raids aren’t content
Not paying $60 for the game, not paying $30 for the DLC, not paying $20 for Home, not paying $80 for online
Will continue to enjoy the 1000s of hours of content I get from Gens 3-5.
gens 4*-5
gen 3 only has around 10-15 hours of content
what about the Battle Frontier
what about the Batte Subway/PWT/Black Tower or White Treehollow
>a few buildings
well I hope you like the battle frontier otherwise emeralds postgame is going to be looking really shitty, and nonexistent in RS. personally I didn't find it very captivating and didn't spend more than an hour or two messing with it.
gens 2*-4*
gen 5 only has around 2-3 hours of content
Unfathomably based
cringe
Because raids are too much effort for little reward.
Raids aren't even any effort. Just a broken mess that becomes trivial with specific builds.
No one does Tera Raids anymore because we've had Pokemon Home for several months now
Unless they introduce a brand new Pokemon or unlock a Shiny locked shiny (like Gimmighoul) in a Raid, no one will give a shit
>or unlock a Shiny locked shiny (like Gimmighoul) in a Raid
i'm still baffled they had the gall to think that was a worthwhile incentive
Gimmighoul should have been gold while Gholdengo should have been silver
Because these raids get boring pretty easily.
This was an absolutely brutal 12 months for GF.
>worst story + characters + world in a pokemon game
>game is also embarrassingly unfinished
>online competitive is a step up from SwSh, however, and doesn't have a gimmick as dumb as dynamax this time
>unfortunately game still suffers from dexit
>pokemon home is still a fricking embarrassment, why would I ever spend money on this to begin with
>3DS shop is no more so anything else that hasn't been brought over from previous gens is likely fricked and forever trapped on that console
>and the cherry on top: gaming has phenomenal in 2023, giving me no reason at all to spend more time or money on GF's unfinished mess when I could instead spend it on something actually good
Literally the only saving grace of this era is competitive. I fricking hate smogon but between them and GF, they're clearly the lesser of two evils. Why would I buy SV DLC when I can just play showdown instead?
it's the fourth best selling pokemon game of all time...I think the one suffering here is you, not GF
Gamefreak =/= TPCi and its shareholders
Lmao if you really think even a quarter of SV profits went to the devs
story + characters + world in a pokemon game
that’s objectively SwSh
Gen 9 has been a complete boring shitshow, I'm expecting some shitty BW remakes from the same people who made BDSPiss to top of the garbage as frick Gen.
I'm already ready for Gen 10 at this point, but sadly I don't have much hope for it either.
>worst story + characters + world in a pokemon game
I loathe Game Freak’s insistence on story + characters in this series, but even I can’t deny that SV is the best they’ve ever achieved (low bar, but still). You’re delusional if you think otherwise.
>pokemon home is still a fricking embarrassment
Well, yeah, but it’s also free to use unless you’re storing an obscene number of mon long term. It beats Bank in that regard.
>gaming has phenomenal in 2023
Black person, what? The Switch as a console has been greatly disappointing outside of the core concept, and 2023 has been no different.
not them but i think honestly 2023 has been the switches best year since 2017, at least for me. this is the only year where things i actually care about have come out consistently throughout the year for the first time since the 3ds generation
2023 has had more highly rated games than any other year in recent memory. Baldurs Gate 3, Re4 Remake, SF6, Ff16, Spider-Man 2, Dead Space, Hi Fi Rush, Starfield, TOTK, Mario Wonder, Jedi Survivor, Armored Core, Metroid Prime, Alan Wake 2, Pikmin 4, Lies of P, and probably a bunch of other ones I just can’t even think of, go ahead and pick out a game in that list you don’t like and disregard the rest if you want to continue to claim 2023 has not been a good year for games
ALL horrid, disgusting woke trash
I find immense pleasure in knowing you have nothing to enjoy in your miserable life and that it’s all your own fault
>Alan Wake 2
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt with other consoles because I’ve been out of the loop for a year or two. The Switch really hasn’t had a great showing, though.
>Mario Wonder
Seems good. Haven’t made the time to pirate / buy yet.
>TOTK
Meh. It’s like an expanded BOTW mod. Not terrible, but also disappointing for people who were hoping for a larger return to form. The BOTW formula (loose / no structure) just feels like a waste of time to me as someone with increasingly limited time.
>Pikmin 4
Seems good, but it’s a niche title that really doesn’t appeal to me. Only played 3 because I got it for free on the WiiU. Don’t think it’s fair to call it a heavy hitter.
>Metroid Prime
You can’t be serious. Certainly not a bad game, but remakes / remasters / ports will never count towards “great” years in gaming.
>2023 has been the switches best year since 2017
Won’t even argue because it could very well be true. That’s just a low bar in my opinion.
yeah it is a low bar lol im not gonna argue with that
>Spider-Man 2 - the most woke and disgusting fricking game to exist possibly ever
>Starfield - bethesda's worst game, pure empty soulless goyslop
>TOTK - a rehash of BOTW that was boring as sin
>Baldur's Gate 3 - honestly good but still pozzed
>Mario Wonder - lol no. just no.
>others are mostly remakes of games that already came out 15+ years ago or other woke pozzed shit
Wow. Great year for gaming guys!
>a random guy's dad was a robot and his dog needed sandwiches to heak
>"BEST STORY EVERY !!! AWESOME !!!"
no it sucked ass. It's literally 2 Ashnime episodes stretched over 20 hours
>no it sucked ass
Yes and still better than all the other games combined.
Never said it was amazing. It’s an attempt that wasn’t a complete failure (like other recent gens) or complete nothingburger (like classic gens). Does it redeem the many flaws of SV? I don’t think so. Is it a worthwhile pursuit when the rest of the game / series is in dire need of help? Definitely not.
>only able to over-simplify about 1/4 of the story
Lazy.
>admits to having shit taste in pokemon games and designs
>further cements it by admitting to being a genshit player
>Literally the only saving grace of this era is competitive.
Not even.
This is the worse time to get into competitive. The powercreep is an absolute shitshow.
competitive is a step up from SwSh, however, and doesn't have a gimmick as dumb as dynamax this time
It's not, most competitive players stop playing or hate gen 9 VGC
competitive is a step up from SwSh,
Have you ever tried online with its shitty small timer and lag? Who is saying this?!
They're not challenging. They require exact, niche builds and coordinated teamwork. I want to use my team mates.
Any level 100 500bst mon (with consideration to type matchups) should have a decent chance. Instead you gotta search online, grind a min you'll use once, and your reward is a regular Mon with a stamp.
SwSh won
The Scarlet and Violet Raids are somehow fricking worse than the GMax raids, just another topping on a shit sundae that is SV.
I've done all of them except this week's.
i really wish companies would stop with the "buh buh buh buh, we put some shitty online mode in with 0 substance! that means youll play it every day now, right?"
It's too soulful for zoomers.
Gen 9 seems catered to zoomers with raids and an Open World and even then they can't be bothered to keep playing the game.
>they dont like it so its catered to them
lol
lmao
mega cope zoomie
Enjoy your glitchy raids gay
>tfw a 5%er
I’m just hoping there will be more ribbons / marks that can be farmed in SV. The concept of a 6IV mon with a unique mark tempts my tism, but the remaining ribbon grind is really lacking in SV.
Raids fricking suck, on top of being buggy as shit, the lag is insane and there's barely any rules, all of this is made worse by the huge amount of children running in with their fricking Skeledirge and triggering the boss's shield because all they know how to do is spam their strongest attack, then they die 5 times and cut your timer in half.
Not to mention raids are practically solved anyways, Iron Hands, Azumarill, Raidcat, Blissey, out of all the Pokemon you really only need 5 or so to handle every raid solo.
The rewards aren't worth it either, I don't care about H-Typhlosion. They need to start putting shinies and more0 mythicals in these so people will play them.
Why is everyone in this thread lying, these games have the highest sales ever. Just accept everyone but you is enjoying them.
>obvious bait
Ignoring that, I think SV gets too much hate. On a console where other exclusives have become increasingly corporate and innovation-adverse (barring a few exceptions), at least SV attempted something new, and if you can get past layers of incompetence and poor project management, there is a solid beginning to what could be the future of pokemon in SV. My biggest gripe with the games is that there is almost nothing worth doing in single player / co-op outside of dex completion and seven star raids.
Very few people want to EV/IV train a Pokemon with a shit set that only works for raids while being complete dogshit for online battles. And a lot of those few people will quickly realize that the tera raids are a laggy unplayable mess. Also most people don't care that much about some mark and would rather just use home/wait for DLC2.
It’s honestly pretty easy, though. Sandwiches make the farm go quickly, and you can train multiple mon at once. Raid sets are always easy to build, as well (full HP & ATK / SPA). Some mon (Qwilfish, Iron Hands, etc) are so good in raids that you can get by with just a handful of sets.
I have done some. They are always bullshit that you have to do solo. They suck dick and balls. SwSh raids at least we're slow and enjoyable in a way that you could do with anons.
I beat them once to catch them but that's it. I grinded the first few for items thinking that would matter but it didn't.
Seriously.
I expect them to get more unhinged in the future when the games get even worse.
SV have been so horrible in every possible way that they somehow managed to make me hate SwSh slightly less just for what few things that trainwreck didn’t frick up
This entire generation has been so bad in concept to execution to character designs to gameplay balance to world design to performance (which normally I don’t care about but ahahahah frick raids in this game) to fricking everything
I haven’t bought the DLC for this shitheap and never will because there’s no salvaging this mess
SV were so bad they got me addicted to Genshin Impact and ruined my life even further
I literally went back to SwSh recently and was actually enjoying it, leave it to fricking Game Freak to out shit themselves with SV.
troony jannies deleted this purely out of mentioning "the group who shall not be mentioned", yet leave up all of the coom threads, genwar threads that aren't targetting "that gen", and the dozens of off-topic, low-effort shitposts. Great board we have here.
unova was a mistake
Because the raids suck. They're bugging and lagging as frick, boss gets to do all sorts of bullshit while you wait for your menu to pop up, and getting the raids you want are a pain in the ass. For some reason, you can't just refresh for new raids on the raid menu instantly, you have a wait a long time for the option to occur. And when you find the raid you want, it takes a long waiting process just to tell you that you can't join. It's just not worth it, anymore, especially since Home transfer is available now.
Who the frick plays the newer games they just buy it for their cheapest console collection.
I never do the time waster content like the battle frontier or raids. that shit is boring
Too little too late. HOME took unusual long to be supported and the first DLC has barely any meat on the bone. On the top that the raids just feel like a chore to participate in due to the shitty online. If you don't get in you have to wait a good minute or two before it tells you so