See, I look forward to what will happen, you do not. That doesn't really matter though. All that matters is that indie domination and total AAA death seems to be extremely likely, therefore, youbshould be happy it is happening. It is in your, rational self-interest to choose ro be happy about it. If you, as an undermensch, can't bring yourself to enjoy it, then the suffering you recieve as a result is your righteous punishment.
I'm not playing rougelikes homosexual. Learn how to actually design a level, random generation is a crutch for hacks that think rolling dice is engaging gameplay.
Hell if I know, I presume the same people that used to get inexplicably drawn towards collecting due to having a switch in their brains I don't like them.
When you what you draw from the deck is random then yeah it is random.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a great way to kill player agency and creativity. Which is why I ignore all card based video games. Tabletop is more robust so I'll concede it may be serviceable in those cases.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>having to make the best of bad situations and plan for numerous things that can happen reduces player creativity
Most moronic take I've seen in a while.
Easy as piss to make. If you ever take a programming class, card games are one of the first things you learn to make. It's an easy way to teach arrays, enumeration, and randomness.
Unlike game studios that make a product to sell to customers, many small devs are instead making a game that they themselves want to play. A single player game with linear progression and zero RNG would be extremely boring to such a person - they already know it inside-out from creating it in the first place so it's like playing the game for a hundredth time. Adding in RNG elements makes the game unpredictable even for the dev and thus allows even them to enjoy it to some extent.
At least that's the reasoning behind why I intend to have a lot of RNG in my game when I get past scripting the menu buttons.
>tfw finishing up some P-ranks in Pizza Tower, before starting up another playthrough of Terraria, while doing some custom maps for Baba Is You, and then finishing that off with another 50 hour run of Starsector
Yeah see that's the difference, wading through AAA garbage, you just find more garbage. Wading through trend-chasing cashgrab indie games, you can still find gold (indie games that are good and have effort put into them). >starsector
Is good, shame its modding community is full of trannies and dramaqueens. They've been entrenched in the forums for so long that the devs won't tardwrangle them.
>shame its modding community is full of trannies and dramaqueens. They've been entrenched in the forums for so long that the devs won't tardwrangle them. >he wasn't here for the Matt Damon controversy that completely destroyed the modding cabal
>Matt Damon controversy that completely destroyed the modding cabal
the what? i need the qrd
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>user named Matt Damon >virtuous good boy who's part of the modding cabal >maintains several mods made by other people since they retired from the game >he gets wind of R*pesector (mod where you capture and sex up enemy officers) >throws a b***hfit and deletes his Take no Prisoners mod (which is what R*pesector is based on) >this is stupid because people want the ability to capture enemy officers, and the no-no mod is now the only one that offers it >but then he does the unthinkable >he infects all of his maintained mods (mods he didn't make, mind you) with lethal game crashing code that permanently bricks your save if it detects that you have the bad mod installed >however, the crash code checks for something that take no prisoners also does, thereby bricking saves of legitimate people who don't have r*pesector installed >he proudly gloats about this on the forums and the discord >discord cabal tells him to shut his mouth, but it's too late >the lead dev, Alex himself, permanently bans him from the forum, and the discord modders have to ban him from the discord as well >this actually gets him off of his ass and officially makes a rule forbidding any kind of malicious code >several modders actually remove their mods from the forum and throw a b***h fit because they want to virtue signal >all of his mods are then claimed by other modders, including the original devs who come out of retirement to fix Matt Damon's mistakes >totale r*pesector victory
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy frick, I would have never thought I'd see the day. I'm glad the dev is finally doing something, I really only used nex and speedup in the most recent update because I got turned off by all the shitty fanfiction mary sue faction mods. Starsector modding is healing
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lmao holy shit. What fricking game? I'm assuming Starsector from the title of the rape mod
this and games that came out years ago is the way to go
trust me, you missed out on a lot of games that are worth playing, don't chase the newest shit and reject f2p multiplayerslop
>I don't play indies but as a Chudcel I have a doomposter tier opinion about everything I need to spam everywhere, here I go, I am such a based alphamale!
I'll just list the ones I have installed currently I'm not gonna bother checking dates to tell a Chuddie to shut up:
project warlock, snake pass, balatro, rain world, baba is you, death road to canada, darkest dungeon 2, salt & sanctuary, return of the obra dinn, outer wilds, slay the spire, Spelunky 2, enter the gungeon, earth defense force ( counts as indie frick you ).
And I also play countless old games, mods and doom wads.
Sorry troony, not buying your early access trash. Release your game, actually design your levels, and tell a story that isn't shit.
LoL another Chudcel.
Remember, they're the homosexuals making twitter threads all day on Ganker, buying AAA games and being moronic as shit.
That's great. Now I'll go and play some doom wads. You're free to yell about indie games being made by trannies all day on Ganker while we play games.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
why did someone draw manga fanart of hazbin hotel?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Japan is far ahead of the rest of the pack when it comes to style, design, in other words sovl.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>while we
no one cares about the voices in your head. take your medicine, schizo
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still lapping up Black person cum
lol
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>more '2016 election tourist" type sperging
No one cares about Outer Wilds, it will be forgotten in 10 years. Its' not getting anyone excited about vidya like a Zelda game, even if I don't care about what Zelda is or has become. Absolutely deslusional.
*yawn*
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
concession accepted
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
its kinda funny how whining about 2016 tourists has no merit anymore
Take this list of indie games from the last 5 years and compare it say the games released in 1998, Yes AAA games are trash now, but these are all just okay at best. If you want me to get excited by indie games, start elevating games like in the past. That starts by stopping supporting shitty indie business practices.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's up to my personal tastes. They're games I like because I can launch them and play them immediately, no story, no cutscenes, easy to control but not devoid of depth so there's no delay between the moment you press start and the one where you're having fun etc etc. That's why I never uninstall them.
I still have more "ambitious" games installed. I was playing armored core and death stranding lately.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're missing the point. The second post in the thread posits indie games as the answer when they can't even compare to the great games of the past. If you want indie games to be the actual answer, then stop with shitty early access and shitty rougleikes and shitty art direction, etc.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's your opinion. Outer Wilds digs a new hole in your "classics" if you're thinking about overated shit like muh Zelda and muh chrono trigger.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
No one cares about Outer Wilds, it will be forgotten in 10 years. Its' not getting anyone excited about vidya like a Zelda game, even if I don't care about what Zelda is or has become. Absolutely deslusional.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lol. You and your ilk have an uncanny compulsion to try and put down older, beloved games to prop up newer games everyone's already forgotten about.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon we've also been living in the shadows of giants for 25 years and new games have to try new things to differentiate themselves from games that have been an influence to the medium for decades.
Just because AAA is shit doesn't mean I'm going to eat indie shit, too. You homosexuals think its' one of the other, when I choose neither of those. And that isn't to say all indies are like that, but it's the trend and what floods the market of indie games, just like there are actually still one or two good AAA games even if the trend is more AAA games are garbage.
If you homosexuals want indie games to do better, stop flooding it with shit.
The anons who claim all indie games are retro inspired pixel NES platformers don't actually play indie games. Probably don't even play video games either.
But anon! They have UNREAL ENGINE 5 now for those next gen graphics! Think of all the stock asset fli- I mean "new content" they'll be able to utilize that won't totally all run together with every indie game looking and feeling the same right down to the animations and bad optimization!
Don't worry, AI will allow everyone to make the best games ever and then every indie game will look triple A and be triple A quality but also be completely 100% unique and original like the best indie games.
Just hang on a little longer, AI will save us, Terence McKenna said it would and he was never wrong.
Not half as moronic as the luddites that reject AI.
AI is objectively the solution to all of these problems. With AI, anyone can prompt and game development will be cheaper than ever. Everyone will finally be able to bring their visions to life. It will be glorious and each man will be a nation of wealth unto himself.
No need for the market. Just games everywhere, each one a unique testament to its creator's ingenuity.
No more corporations, no more collectivist clusterfricks. Just individuals and the power to make games with no restrictions, forever.
AI isn't a magic button that generates whatever you wish to be real, you moron. Holy frick, you have no idea what you are talking about.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not yet, but it will be soon the groundwork is already laid.
It's good that the market is crashing because it will create a power vaccuum and AI can move in and replace the old creative industry with a new one.
The new industry will be one where there are no restrictions, no limitations, no censorship, just the freedom for one or two man teams to create the best triple A quality games.
AGI is right around the corner and with it anyone, even children, can ask their computer to generate games for them.
Anything you want
Fighters
Shooters
RPGs
Open world games
Hentai games
With further automation it will be possible for a single person to prompt thousands of games a day. It is an exciting time to be alive but you backwards facing anti-progressive luddite wienersuckers would rather stay mad that the old way is dying.
The old way has to die. It must die for new life to flourish. Kill it. AI is the only way to save gaming.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
BASED BASED BASED
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Imagine what AI will do to Indian religions.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bros what if an AI has been pushing the left wing politics of the last 10 years to make people worthless and more easy to replace
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
AGI is gonna destroy humanity. And no, I don't think we're getting true AGI anytime soon.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>With further automation it will be possible for a single person to prompt thousands of games a day.
AI shills are some of the dumbest motherfrickers on the planet, you unironically think AI is some magic salve that will design EVERYTHING for a game: characters game world, levels, mechanics, music, everything
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>excessively wordy and verbose >unnecessary paragraph breaks >ends by repeating something said previously
Oh yeah this post was written with chatgpt
Im being honest here anon, do you have independent thoughts anymore? Is AI your way of expressing yourself because you otherwise cant?
>"Indie gaming" just becomes another venue for highly advertised slop >Indie games get overshadowed in the sea of garbage being pumped out and gaming dies for real this time
grats you fricking moron
Indie games are falling even harder, for every 1 good indie game there's 10000000 bad shit flooding the market.
We need to return to medium budget/sized games.
>Indie games are falling even harder, for every 1 good indie game there's 10000000 bad shit flooding the market.
Good it's even easier to find the good ones >We need to return to medium budget/sized games.
Yes please
maybe in your hearts and minds, but profit wise? No way. Once the crash happens, most games will be live service subscription based slop that will people will eat up, and large AAA companies will consider non-online singleplayer one-time payment games not profitable and not worth the risk. Reviews do not matter as people in mass amounts gobble up the slop and bring in sales.
They'll ban reviews and all comments. You get banned for speaking out against devs on Steam now. But you're right; it'll all be subscription service slop with MTX.
>Big company sees indie dev doing good >Big company buys them >Big company does big company things >dev studio dies and so do their games >Big company is fine because it is big company >Big company sees indie dev doing good...
>will
Hollow Knight
Undertale
Celeste
Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Terraria
Baba Is You
TEVI
Pizza Tower
Cuphead Palworld
Those are the names that I remember. The indie scene has been obliterating AAA slop for like 7 years straight now if not longer. Romhacks like Pokemon Unbound or fangames like AM2R are remembered more fondly than corporate stuff. Wonder what took people so long to realize.
Not that anon, but didn't the same studio taht developed it also publish it? Granted the term "indie" really is a stupid word. Bastion would be considered "Indie" but it was backed by Warren Brotehrs. And Hades probably has a giant budget that is maassive compared to a lot of "indie" games but was self published.
Actually looking it up it appears so, could have swore MS gave them money or something but looks like they only had some involvement with the Switch port.
Also to be fair, Cuphead is just an okay game. Too much focus on boss fights with only a few actual platofrming levels. But it has great art direction which is very important for a VIDEO game that so much indie devs forget about.
I'll never understand bangwagoners for indieshit of all things. The entire point of self-publishing was avoiding this tired parasocial dance where you pretend garbage is gold and finding games you'd like to play that wouldn't exist otherwise, not conform to homosexuals and women like you were already doing.
Contrarianism doesnt make you special, anon. And worse, it's stopping you from playing good games
There's plenty of bad games that are popular so apparently it's not that simple.
It really is. You cant trust advertising and astroturfing. You can trust word of mouth
If you cant see the difference between the two when you read a positive review or recommendation for a game, it's because you're too young to be posting here in the first place
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You cant trust advertising and astroturfing. You can trust word of mouth
You can't trust either you moron. Plenty of garbage games are shilled here by word of mouth.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>shilled here >by word of mouth.
Imagine talking big when you're so underage you cant tell if a post was made by an astroturfer. You're proving my point
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shilling is shilling regardless if your paid to do so or not. Cope however you see fit.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>word of mouth is shilling
Lmao. People talk about good games, and so good games get popular. The reason for your rage is the fact that this formula really is that simple and its breaking your irony-poisoned mind
Rich. I'd tell you to enjoy that lobotomy but you don't feel anything, you're just desperately seeking approval from the very bottom of the societal barrel.
Says the edgelord seething about games he hasnt played just because they're popular. It's not "cool" or "special" to be a miserable contrarian, kid. You'll learn one day.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>People talk about good games, and so good games get popular
It's the same with bad games anon which is my point. Also what rage? I'm not the one call people kids because they disagree with me.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's the same with bad games anon which is my point.
And If I asked you to give me examples, you'll list out every single AAA game released in the past 6-8 years. But do it anyway. >I'm not the one call people kids because they disagree with me.
Im not calling you a kid because you disagree with me, but because you're too ypung and immature to understand the difference between word of mouth and astroturfing.You clearly werent around in the 90s when word of mouth was sometimes the only way you'd find a good game.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Manor Lords.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
90% of threads here are shill spam. Depending on the game so are the posts.
It's when you see something small talked about months and years after release like Astlibra you know it's legit.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shut up Astlibra shill
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I wish it stopped me from wasting time with those, absolute garbage.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're saying you played them all which we both know is false, but sure, kid. We all went through a phase once, you'll grow out of it soon
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Rich. I'd tell you to enjoy that lobotomy but you don't feel anything, you're just desperately seeking approval from the very bottom of the societal barrel.
nudoom looks pretty on video but theyre quite shallow games. doom 3 was wayyy better even though people complained at first looking back it had way more soul.
>homosexuals praise Indie devs >95 percent of Indie games are roguelikes, samey old doom clones, deck builders or some gay card shit and pixel bullshit sidescrollers metroivanias that are le allegory for depression and troonyism >one different succesful game and it gets shit ton of clones by Indie devs who apparently arent tied down by big bad da capitalist shareholders n shiet
State of western Indie games is quite literally the same as AAA and you have to suffer from profound mental moronation to think otherwise lol. Pizza Tower came out last year and it already has two clones announced that will come out this year. What the actual frick man.
Gaming is dying for a number of reasons but one of which is oversaturation. There’s too many games giving too many options for people to choose. Literally anyone can make a game and no matter how shitty it is, it’ll be a choice among many for users.
No, it's going to be a reset where big studios are dumped and publishers hold the IP, key staff from these studios will either retire or found their own new studios, these people will sign deals with big publishers and the cycle will begin anew, it will be like the late 90s/00s all over again.
No, indie games are fricked too. Go look at steam and start looking at all the indie games. 95% slop that nobody is buying. Literal just shit. So many indie games blend together and look like millennial garbage pixel shit that looks 1000% worse than pixel games from the mid 1990s. Indie is going down with the ship, save for a few.
>indie gayman. >taking over.
There is piles of homosexual shit, pretentious bullshit, and gay ass game genres like "deck builders" in indie games, the ones that aren't shit are the small percentage of indie games.
You just never know the dev is conservative about most conservative games. Legends of Amberland games are made by a Polish Catholic dude but you wouldn't know because there is zero politics one way or the other in them.
>bro just compete with pajeets clogging the market by dumping hundreds of AI generated asset flips a days
If you don't have a marketing budget (at least $100k), don't even bother wasting your time with this industry
Bullshit. You just need an original idea and the skills/effort to pull through. Balatro is simple as frick, but it still succeeded because it had an original concept and good execution.
All you need is word of mouth, which is something that pajeet asset-flips will never have.
>indie gaming will take over
The vast majority of indie games are trash.
Just go take a good look at the endless ocean of indies on Steam, it's garbage. Try and tell me with a straight face that indie games are good on average. For every Hollow Knight or Outer Wilds, there are a ten thousand more terrible indies.
AAA games are and always will be better on average. People shittalk AAA games more because when one fails it's a public spectacle talked about by gaming outlets, it's a bigger waste of developer funds, and it's fun to prop up the underdog as an alternative. But even though only 1 in 50 AAA games is good, only 1 in 500 indies is good and those 499 shit indies are all worse than the 49 bad AAAs. You just don't notice when an indie game sucks because maybe two people on the planet hear about it, indies only start existing to you once they're the 1 in 500 that are actually good enough to get popular.
You are coping
The vast majority of AAA games are legit trash. Not many of them come out a year and maybe a handful every few years come out good
Meanwhile indie games are coming out weekly and there's always something for everybody. I've found at least 2-3 good indie games on a weekly basis and I already know you don't play video games due to your dick riding of AAA
>Meanwhile indie games are coming out weekly and there's always something for everybody. I've found at least 2-3 good indie games on a weekly basis
Post 3 good indie games that released this week, I'll go look at their gameplay previews on steam.
There is a massive oversaturation in indie market too. Winners (like Balatro, Lethal Company etc) win more than ever, but there is also more losers than ever.
That phenomenon is basically what killed most mid budget games too, studios need to either make hits only or die these days.
Im Black and if it means getting a good game, just put white devs in every game. Currently the industry just treats Blacks like token characters there to fill a quota. Not because they wanted a meaningful thought provoking character.
Make my video games and comics and Ill call that reparations. Aight?
i can't tell if this is a god tier ironic shitpost (unlikely) or you actually thought people would really think "a black guy totally wrote this" kek holy shit
the "aight?" made me lol
The original game crash was caused by them and the only good thing white guys ever made was Doom and Doom clones. White man does not even make anything of that calibur anymore because they don't want to make games anymore. They want to make glorified movies and Skinner boxes.
One Asian dude making Cave Story >>>>> 7 huwite cucks making yet another dungeon crawler or doom clone
I'll happily take either of these over the faux-Hollywood alpha-build mass "appealers" designed by suits to appeal to no one and everyone. When the fricking PS5 is already in its latter stages of life with only a couple legitimate exclusives worth playing (or none in Xbox's case) it's time to rethink your industry.
It's still a thing you just got to know where to spend your money. Look at stardew valley, that game is a great and made by one white boy. He's even working on another game right now
>single frame stutter dropping FPS to 54.72 occurs in 30 hours of playtime >Industry is broken. The rate at which things are declining is extremely worrisome. Feels almost hopeless.
It's really gonna suck for you when you find out that there is more that contributes to shitty videogames than diversity hires and gay people on the staff.
The rot is too deep at this point. The entire industry has developed intense contempt for it's customers. Even without DEI, you'll still have devs and publishers treating their buyers like paypigs and ATMs that they hate and will never listen to.
The whole thing needs to implode before it'll get better.
The first crash was overblown. All that happened was the Atari ecosystem died. That was just barely more than one console that collapsed, but it was also practically the entire US console market. Arcades and PC were still a thing. Now all A, AA, and AAA needs to die off so that only people with an actual passion for the hobby stick around to make new games and it blossoms anew from that.
>Now all A, AA, and AAA needs to die off so that only people with an actual passion for the hobby stick around to make new games and it blossoms anew from that.
This will never happen since the industry is too big. What will really happen is the industry leads will fire more than half of their staff since they are useless quota hires and put people that know what they are doing on charge. Either that or they will face bankruptcy. The age of free money is over. The dollar is dying and the bubble is bursting.
Yeah, I also don't think it's a big deal. I've spent $500 on games since the start of 2024 and have yet to buy a single AAA product. Let em die, why should I care?
Lol. DEI is not going anywhere. It's only going to get worse once HR6090 becomes a bill.
They're not going to hire "competent people." They're going to turn A/AA/AAA into a mandatory battlepass/gamepass/subscription service and we'll all subsidize this worthless industry unless we stop buying consoles or move to Linux.
They will because the dollar is also getting weaker at the same time. There will be a market crash soon which will also tremendously affect the gaming industry. The new AAA teams will consist of smaller work forces with a more direct management. They will fire most of their employees.
Bro. You think you're dealing with rational people. That's your biggest mistake. The entire industry is infested with a cult ideology. They're gonna "woke" everything to death, and you don't get a choice in the matter.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol it would actually be hilarious if they could continue to do shit forever but that's not what will happen
>The dollar is dying
The dollar is definitely dying, but in case you haven't noticed, the rest of the world's currency is going even shittier than the dollar. The currency situation is a global thing, it's not just an american thing, and the dollar is actually doing very well comparatively
Use your brain. I know you can do it. I believe in your. The sentences you "forgot" to greentext explain it pretty well
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not really.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron, then. No matter how badly the dollar is doing, and it is indeed doing pretty badly (though not as badly as when eggs were $7), the entire rest of the world has their currency priced in relation to the dollar due to oil (i.e. "petrodollar"). Think of it less like the dollar "dying", and more like the value of money for the average goyim, worldwide, becoming much, much lower as a deliberate function that was planned all the way back in October of 2019 during Event 201
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You're a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron >inflation was planned all the way back in October of 2019 during Event 201
lol
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You've had it explained to you multiple ways, you're purposefully ignored the text that explains it to you, and still you pretend like you can't understand. You are a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
The dollar is doing terribly, but the rest of the planet is doing even worse.
There you fricking moron, I explained it plainly for you
There were problems before DEI, it just accelerates everything MASSIVELY.
But yes, the overall purge of meritocracy in game development and design has been an absolute apocalypse, there will be a LOT of consolidation of these failing companies, probably all according to plan.
And a lot of you will cheer this on because developers...
...dare to put a rainbow flag in a game
...acknowledge that non-white people exist
...make meaningful changes during localization
...know that trans rights are human rights
...rightfully turn away from the male gaze
I was going to ironically take this bait and offer up my own ironic but not unironic counterpoint while larping as something that I'm not for shits and giggles, but why bother?
I just don't care anymore.
what if instead of fawkes trapped in the lab room begging the lone wanderer to let him out in Fallout 3 it was a gay man infected with AIDs begging for a vaccine.
American politics are the worst, but all the politics aside; white, beautiful and cute just sells. Everything else is a gimmick for publicity or distractions.
1) the rainbow is the covenant of god and has 7 colors not 6, it's a christian thing
2) non white people are not people
3)unfaithful localization should be punishable by death
4)TTD (total troony death)
5)women compete for the male gaze
Yes, that was written by us non whites, it is you Cuckasian pagans who decided to pervert the rainbow, because youbguys worshipped a that Loki transexual. I'm sorry your autism interfered with your reading comprehension.
You know you’re gonna have a nice day eventually so why? Just ACK yourself now and think of all the pain and embarrassment and shame you’ll save yourself from experiencing, you silly homosexual freak.
>stealing culture/religion >troony >stupid ass "male gaze" term for homosexual cuckasians
All white ghoul concoctions and propositions. This planet isn't for you, this is why the sun rejects you. Stay in your coffins.
>European "Jews" are not whitoids
Nice try parasite, we don't like either one of you, we lump you all in together because your rulers are both collabing in vampiric behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200
It is you Anglos who are supporting Israel too, afterall.
I'm having so much fun with dd2 and sandland. looking at trying musashi w whatever. Some great rpgs on Nintendo Switch too.
Most gays here play god of war onions slop and CoD, which is why they are anal weeping
It focuses more on vehicle combat, which most games don't do right. The shooting feels good, encounters with other vehicles feels good, the vehicle customization is good.
The actual action JRPG part is serviceable. It doesn't feel that bad to handle, but it also manages to not overstay its welcome. You've very rarely shoehorned into it.
Finally, it honestly feels like you're playing an anime. Characters are likable, they shoot the shit with each other and it takes a while for the dialogue to loop. Dialogue also changes depending on where you are in the world and in the story, and if the girl is with you or not. I play with JP audio and english subs, and all the voice actors are great. There are even some """dark""" moments and/or tear-inducing sidequests that I think were handled very well.
>it honestly feels like you're playing an anime. Characters are likable, they shoot the shit with each other
I'm normally a combatgay but I'm definitely up for games like this too. I'll still probably wait for a price drop because I've got a bunch of other games I want to finish first.
Good. I haven't played a AAA game in like a decade and I honestly lose a lot of respect for anyone that says they play shit like Far Cry or Call of Duty or Fifa.
Both OlliOlli and Rollerdrome are cool video games. That sucks. I hate that the executive that made this decision probably gets paid more than the entire payroll of that studio.
John is a tech optimist but an industry doomer. So he's still a homosexual because he thinks new hardware will ultimately make up for having shit software
Why would anyone make new games when you can just sell 40 dollar overwatch skins or whatever. Market seems unviable if you want to actually work considering the economics. You can just play Grand Theft Auto, Fortnight and League forever
>all the AAA blackrock woke diversity hire studios shutting down >normies and homosexuals go back to social media and other dumb shit leaving the nerds to go back to doing what they do best, making vidyas
Gaming is healing.
AAA is dying, they just need to get their heads out of their asses, and make 3-4 10-20 million budget games instead of gambling on 1 200+ million budget games. The coof created a bubble that expanded with endless flows of cash, and now that bubble is popping.
>In 2022, the global gaming industry generated an estimated $184.4 billion >In 2022, the global recorded music industry generated $26.2 billion >In 2022, the global movie industry generated $26 billion in box office revenue
Yup, crash incoming because Take-Two closed a couple nothing studios
Tbh overwhelming vast majority of that comes from mobile and F2Pslop. Hell, a lot of those are Asian games that no one here has ever heard of. Budgets are also ballooning like crazy, so high revenue doesn't necessarily mean healthy.
According to your image, PC gaming alone generates more revenue than the entire music industry. And while budgets for AAA games may be ballooning, I would wager that they are a minority of what people purchase and consume these days. Just look at random games like Buckshot Roulette taking off. AAA games could die completely and almost nobody would care.
Even without what you mentioned even your own graphic shows that PC or console by themselves make more money than the entire music or movie industries
Steam is only a tiny fraction of that revenue. Even AAA goysloppers are a small minority of the industry compared to the F2P and mobile behemoth, especially in asian countries. And again, just because revenue is high doesn't mean the companies are profitable, that it's sustainable, or that a single flop can't send a company under.
>Require team of 30+ people to make shitty game that sells 1000 copies if its lucky
What do you mean this is unsustainable?
Meanwhile small teams with a focus produce something unique/better.
send all the bloggers to hell too, gameinformer, shitaku, euroshit, pc gaymer, all of them. shove your shitty games and blog posts in you're anuses
this time it is not a couple of boomers having an episode over easy difficulty in singleplayer games. they were getting rek for real, no 2 more weeks.
Indie games are falling even harder, for every 1 good indie game there's 10000000 bad shit flooding the market.
We need to return to medium budget/sized games.
it is always been that way, a couple of AA and single developer gems in a sea of trash. when was the last time you felt the need to download a depression quest from itchio?
AI isn't a magic button that generates whatever you wish to be real, you moron. Holy frick, you have no idea what you are talking about.
but it has the potential to drastically reduce costs in the short term
Xi Jinping himself called gaming, "spiritual opium". I think counting on China might be a short-sighted take. The CCP is not a fan of gaming. On the other end of that, they know that games can make ass-tons of cash. So the party might just say screw it and go all in with investment.
It's funny because back before mobile gaming was a thing and most games didn't have microtransactions governments did try to outlaw video games under anti-gambling laws. Countries like Brazil and Greece were trying to straight up ban counterstrike before steam even had a market.
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>industry that makes billions each year >crashing
I know you Black folk wish gaming was crashing because you hate video games but gaming is too big to fail now.
You can't force people to spend money on stuff they don't want. Eventually budgets bloat beyond what the industry can absorb and it all comes tumbling down.
moron, people still want video games and they are still making billions, you’re living in some fantasy land if you think millions of people don’t enjoy video games daily and spend a shit ton of money on them.
I see I'm talking with a member of the "But I did have breakfast" Club.
Go look at what happened to the auto industry if you want an example of how the videogames industry can fail.
It's mind blowing that they took what should be a money printing industry, and drove it into the dirt so rapidly There's a vacuum waiting to be filled.
If a video game industry crash does occur, my expectation is smaller staffs, smaller budgets and likely more focused projects being the norm.
Some publishers will sink, others won't.
Right now the industry is in a state of excess that bleeds money and talent for little in appreciable gains generally speaking.
Thank god
If videogame industry crashes, as well as movies, nothing will be lost, people will start rioting against the system since there's no opium, and maybe we could start over
>Take Two buys up indie studios for muh growth and shuts them down for shareholder gibs when they have a bad quarter >lol this doesn't affect me as someone who plays indie games
They'll do it again, you fools. They'll do it with an indie group you actually care about.
>AAA development budgets keep inflating >sales can't keep up in time to make a profit
We all like to say the industry will eventually get better when AAA is killed off, but the truth is it's gonna take the rest of the industry down with it if it does.
Pssssst
If they’re bought by a megacompany, they’re not fricking indie anymore.
And frankly, getting gutted by suits is all they should expect if they take that bait.
I went from someone buying a new game almost every week to someone who buys maybe a game or two a year and pirates the rest.
This is the result of them getting more greedy while also getting more incompetent from moving away from focusing on merit instead focusing on diversity or outsourcing to cheap indians
It's good to see crash, it deserves a crash, we deserve to see it crash.
>NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO SPEND 400 MILLION DOLLARS FOR 80k TEXTURES AND DROP 9 TERABYTES ON PROFESSIONAL VOICEACTING IN THIRTY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES!!!!
Why are game companies like this?
Up until 5-8 years ago vidya was HEAVILY judged by how close to the “cutting edge” in technology it was. This led to “gens”, console wars, and generally the expectation that graphics would steadily, substantially improve every year. In 2008, a game LOOKING visually like a game from 2003 on the same hardware would make it a complete joke.
From around 2015 onward graphics development starting having higher and higher diminishing returns and consumers started seeing less difference in technical quality with every passing year. This caused consumers to increasingly weigh other factors like artstyle, genre, and gameplay above graphics in considering a purchase.
Meanwhile, devs are left with the massive teams needed for development/upkeep of these technologically advanced games without the returns to justify them.
The silver lining is, I'm glad the graphics arms race is finally ending, sorta. I'm sure the demands will always be there, but at least it's not as all-consuming as far as the audience's preference is concerned.
That is good, but the new threat with more normies flooding the consumer base is “star power”, brand name power, and other hollywood-like incentives are becoming more important. The VA industry is especially vulnerable to this, celebrities are gonna eat their lunch.
Yeah, that is a threat. Thankfully most of these incentives are mostly contained in AAA sphere (for now) so AA or indie development doesn't seem to be affected by it so far. However, there's always this fear that the mindset of "make video games to be just like Hollywood movies" in development format, star power influence like you say, and gameplay concessions will be even more rooted in the industry so that's something to watch out for.
The graphics arms race isn't even what is bloating the budgets. Spooderman 2 cost 300 million to develop, and it was an almost total asset flip. Look at the credits and you can see they literally had hundreds of "consultants" work on the game for dumb shit like DEI, which they also messed up. I refuse to believe they were that moronic and this wasn't just straight out money laundering.
My favor anecdote from that shit is they paid these "people" millions of dollars to make sure its all PC and they couldn't even get the Puerto Rican flag right. Lol. Lmao.
>Meanwhile, devs are left with the massive teams needed for development/upkeep of these technologically advanced games without the returns to justify them.
teams were definitely not massive at any point when these huge technological leaps were made. making impressive tech doesn't take 30 average programmers, it takes 3 really clever ones. however, for the most part, the problem is that
1. game companies refuse to consider talent retention as anything except a responsibility of the employee itself because muh passion
2. big tech has substantially grown in the last 12 years or so, with huge salaries to match
3. those clever programmers would eventually end up having impressive resumes that would get them hired at aforementioned big tech companies
there are other factors that go into it but i think we would routinely see a lot more impressive tech (not necessarily sheer graphics fidelity) if not for dumb game company management
its been a long time coming
anyone with a brain saw this as early as 6-7 years ago.
only hope we had was there was that 1-2 year period during covid where indie devs could sit at home on neetbux to make a few good $15 indie titles, but AAAs have been dead since 2013 at least.
like you know its bad when 91% of games being played are 2~8+ years old, or older.
They arent going broke for being woke. We are in a recession now and there are mass layoffs. We are where we were in 2006.
Matter of fact very few businesses go broke over woke shit. If liberals arent propping these businesses up DEI grants are. But because everyone is doing shitty there are no payouts.
>market flooded with asset library indie games being shit out every hour and AAA games being 5,000 billion dollar sweatshop creations with every little thing being monetized to frick over the consumer while they play games with journalist-tier difficulty >maybe 1 or 2 real games released every year that are actually worth playing
Let all these companies go under, the ones that matter will be left standing
Never even fricking heard of Olli Olli World or Rollerdrome and looking them up only made me angry they ever existed in the first place.
I'm so shocked the chuds are all buying Stellar Blade and not this absolute shit.
I genuinely don't give a frick. They could stop making video games entirely right now and it would have a negligible impact on my life. I have decades of kino vidyas I still haven't played.
And that's a good thing.
I don't even bother with modern games anymore, except for a tiny handful of indies with the decency to not waste my time with grinding and resource management and procedural generation. Other than that it's retro gaming all the way.
I don't mind
I have my own library that I have been building up throughout the years - plus ROMs library to top it all off - to last me a lifetime
It can happen tomorrow for all I care.
The last modern goyslop I have ever bought was the Elden Ring
I knew things were unsustainable 10 years ago, but the industry was being propped up by VC money and other speculative investors. Covid and the huge inflation spike fixed that, though. No more free money with the fed hiking interest rates. Every company that was being propped up with VC cash infusions started laying off people en masse and aggressively monetizing after that.
Gaming industry though is facing a crisis because they've long since shed all the people who know how to make a game cheaply and quickly. 15 years of bloatmaxing their companies has left them utterly stranded in the current economy.
It did. Back in like 1998-2001. >Sierra, Maxis, Westwood, Broderbund, etc. get absorbed in series of mergers >Remaining publishers angle toward consoles >Tons of games liquidated at rock-bottom prices at places like T.J. Maxx >PC game market dramatically shrinks >Whole genres of games vanish
If you went into Wal-Mart c. 2005 and looked at the PC selection there would be mostly budget "tycoon" games and hardly anything "real". It was grim.
Disagree, it was the golden Golden age of crpg starting 1998 with bg up to 2006 with nwn and RTS too . Lots of good stufio died for sure but other were massive (and then shat the bed violently for Blizzard and Bioware)
But the same thing could be said of the "video game crash". People were still buying, making, and playing video games even if there was an oversupply issue and high profile games like E.T. bombed.
It did. Back in like 1998-2001. >Sierra, Maxis, Westwood, Broderbund, etc. get absorbed in series of mergers >Remaining publishers angle toward consoles >Tons of games liquidated at rock-bottom prices at places like T.J. Maxx >PC game market dramatically shrinks >Whole genres of games vanish
If you went into Wal-Mart c. 2005 and looked at the PC selection there would be mostly budget "tycoon" games and hardly anything "real". It was grim.
The late 90s and early 00s were the golden age of online PC gaming. If you think otherwise you don't know shit and weren't there, and I honestly pity you.
Sure i'm not disagreeing there. Personally i hope it's the end of the AAA model and we go back to mostly AA with a slightly bigger game once in a while. Perfect for me is nintendo getting 1-2 big game a year with a solid lower bjdget but a FUN game interspaced in there. Gimme 5 unicorn overlord, Octopath or Triangle Strategy instead 1episode of a remake any fricking day
The AAA industry is nearly worthless at this point. They're effectively unable to make something good, a good AAA game at this point is at best a lucky accident, if it exists at all. More often than not it's just ugly on purpose, runs terribly, made with zero passion and overly cinematic all at once. Oh no, the garbage peddling industry which has somehow turned into a grotesque mockery that makes products which are bad and ugly by design lost some money.
Well, at least smaller games that are actually good and cool still come out, in numbers larger than I can play, even though they're not immune to these problems either but there's enough of them that you can still find great ones.
last good AAA game that I played was horizon zero dawn. I feel like that game was accidentally good. Discovering all the future tech in a prehistoric veneer was so sick. Particularly when you're in the snowy mountains, I have a vivid memory of dropping down into some drone hanger. After having climbed in the snow for fricking hours to get there, the clean angular walls of the hanger were such a massive juxtaposition to the savage nature just above it. And inside was some high tech drone fighter jets just mothballed and sitting there. Amazing moment.
I'd love to see a video game crash, and believe I helped it happen. I'd also like to see that homosexual israelite Jason schreier commit suicide. he shouldn't even have a job in the industry
>random twitter user posts something and its very serious
Why are we just taking random twitter posts seriously these days? it doesnt even say anything its a twitter guy reacting to a post saying vague ass shit? fricking morons.
Nobody on Ganker plays games. Roll7 was a medium size team that made cool games. Take-Two is going to kill all these kinds of dev teams to fund free to pay slop. Don't worry though all those games will have troony flags in them so you can give them free marketing by whining like a homosexual instead of playing video games.
imagine if all the corporate gays just up and left and all vidya downsizes
graphics return to basics, games get released 10x faster, and everything plays at high fps again
in order to stand out they need gameplay, design, and writing instead
demos get released again because no more pretty moving pictures to bait normalgays who don't give a shit
aggressive marketing campaigns get replaced with breasts
mtx mobile game meta goes out because devgays can't afford an entire account based system on top of trying to make a good game
success isn't enough to make frick you money and they need to stay humble and true to their audience of gamers
the actual videogame crash happened because shovelware was flooding the market and there werent enough reviewers to discern what was good or bad before people spent their money. people got burned a bunch and then stopped buying games for a while
this would never happen today because not only is their an abundance of solid material, there is also full playthroughs uploaded to youtube and reviews about literally every single game that gains even a modicum of an audience
if you got scammed by a shitty game, it is now your own fault. there will be no industry collapse, only the collapse of individual studios that fail to make enough money for their corporate kings
Happened in 1984 until 1985 when Nintendo and Sega revitalized the home market in the US.
Note that other countries didn't have a such a thing as game consoles weren't a big deal in EU and JP didn't care about US games so their market was totally unaffected.
As a kid I only noticed that all the Atari games were super cheap all of a sudden due to stores dumping them so I didn't even know the crash was actually thing until it was already over. The 2600 never actually left the marketplace and was still being sold up until 1990 too, just with a much more diminished game output.
Happened in 1984 until 1985 when Nintendo and Sega revitalized the home market in the US.
Note that other countries didn't have a such a thing as game consoles weren't a big deal in EU and JP didn't care about US games so their market was totally unaffected.
Oh and forgot to mention it wasn't just third parties who caused it, the game console manufacturers themselves thought the profit line will always go up up up so they were overspending and overextending to the point the breaking point was reached and the line broke. Atari in particular was wasting money on stupid investments like bioreaders and producing way more cartridges of games than actual consoles in circulation as they truly believed games like the atrocious 2600 version of Pac-Man and E.T. would have move thousands of more console units.
Unironically this. I got Rollerdome for free on the ps games catalogue cos it looked really cool but the gameplay ended up being honestly pretty mediocre. And KSP2 is what this anon said, literally a worse version of the first game. Like to the point where is has NO REDEEMING FACTORS OVER THE FIRST ONE.
You can pull out these random shit games that bomb and scream "the crash is coming the crash is coming!" And I can just pull out games that have done EXCEEDINGLY well like helldivers 2 and BG3. Game studios will die. Its been happening since the fricking 80s.
The first video game crash happened because there was a flood of broken, low-effort knock offs for existing games on the shelves. People didn't know what was good and what was shit, because the only info on video games was a few rare printed magazines.
Trust/Interest collapsed and most of the developers were over-leveraged, so the market collapsed with it.
Nothing like this can happen today anymore because of the wide-spread indie/AA scene as well as people having access to info about games everywhere.
>muh woke/DEI/SBI/ESG
Nobody outside of Twitter cares and general audiences aren't composed of the terminally online social media morons.
>Nobody outside of Twitter cares and general audiences aren't composed of the terminally online social media morons.
Yeah, well adjusted people don't have meltdowns over a black person being in a video game lol.
>there was a flood of broken, low-effort knock offs for existing games on the shelves. People didn't know what was good and what was shit
i dunno, sounds kinda familiar
The existence of shovelware wasn't the problem, it's the fact that they were landing on shelves just as much as AAA products. Customers didn't know if the game they just bought was the real deal or a shitty copy.
This destroyed consumer confidence and collapsed demand.
Nowadays you can tell immediately if the game is actually real or just a scam. And we're talking about actual scams, not "this Ubishit game was boring".
There will be a crash. But it'll be in the form of the majority of AAA companies failing to understand they cant just make the same slop or follow the same trend all together because each trend has a very specific amount of leeway before it snaps and no one cares anymore.
The last 5 years of live service bullshit sprouting up because its the more efficient and profitable game type without understanding that by design a consumer isnt going to be playing more than one or two live service games at a time because of the way they demand attention is a good example.
How many hundreds of millions do you think have been lost on these absurd endeavors. Spiderman 2 sold millions, but looks like it barely made back its money (if that) due to the MASSIVE cost of production, to the point that they let go a huge chunk of the studio?
Meanwhile BG3 acts like the gaming industry is back in 2010 and makes billions.
Trends have always come and gone. Remember the era of non-stop MMOs? Live-Service will die the same way and something else will come along.
The firing of developers isn't out of necessity, but to recoup costs through tax write-offs. C-Suites write their game off as a loss, fire a few hundred people and exit the company with a fat severance package. It's just the usual vulture capitalism, but it's never been this prominent in the gaming industry.
They'll bleed the AAA studios for a bit and then move on to something else, probably streaming or mobile apps.
No it wont. AAA isnt videogames, its slop for normalgays like you.
Let them die, lets go back to everyone making good, passion project games for fun instead of ESG investors.
it doesn't matter if the gaming industry collapses. i was never going to play a propaganda game anyways. its too late for globo, enough masterpieces with infinite replayability have already been made back when gaming industry wasn't shit.
as long as we have computers we can just play these old games forever. and computer hardware keeps improving so i can play my classics at 300fps in vr eventually.
>CEO's and other wall street parasites running things into the ground
AAA gaming was a mistake, and yet the real gems of gaming still will shine through the bullshit and make huge profits.
most bigger studios don't take risk and are on auto-pilot.
rockstar, considered one of the best, hasn't innovated since gta 3. we've only seen technical upgrades the last two decades. rdr2 looks amazing, gameplay wise it's extremely boring and limiting.
the input interface hasn't seen an update since 2000. dualshock was the last one. it has become quite boring pressing the same buttons.
GOOD. The crash needs to happen (again) so we can fricking purge all of these bottom-feeding woke pricks out of the industry, give it the chance to rebuild even if it takes a few (and it will) decades to recover and let these israelites frick off back to their normie shit.
Remember this is the guy who doesn't care about games at all. He just cares about [current highest resolution] and [current highest frame rate]. His argument for console manufacturers going third party is shit like he wants to play Zelda in 4K 120.
Who cares? There are hundreds of great games waiting for you to play them.
I'm playing Diggles and Land of Lore right now and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
Next on the list Desperados.
Why are you zoomers too moronic to understand the original game crash? Why do you also want to larp events you heard about in inaccurate YouTube video essays?
Hint, the original game ceash was not over shitty triple AAA studios(Which did not even exist) having to close down side studios they owned.
>Put out Game >Work on it over a long period of time >Finish development, game has lots of shit in it >Release Game 2 >It has less than 10% of what game 1 had >Fails miserably
Many such cases! Also, the original devs sold their name and dipped out.
Good.
Already got plenty of good games to play from the past 20 years
People need to stop being consoomers & realize they don't need to play modern games
indie gaming will take over
oh boy can't wait for even more early access rougelikelite deckbuilders with shitty NES graphics that are just an allegory for depression
yes
and you WILL like it, CHUD
Neither can I.
See, I look forward to what will happen, you do not. That doesn't really matter though. All that matters is that indie domination and total AAA death seems to be extremely likely, therefore, youbshould be happy it is happening. It is in your, rational self-interest to choose ro be happy about it. If you, as an undermensch, can't bring yourself to enjoy it, then the suffering you recieve as a result is your righteous punishment.
I'm not playing rougelikes homosexual. Learn how to actually design a level, random generation is a crutch for hacks that think rolling dice is engaging gameplay.
Seriously, why are there so many fricking deckbuilders?
hack designers rely on randomness for "variety"
Hell if I know, I presume the same people that used to get inexplicably drawn towards collecting due to having a switch in their brains I don't like them.
Tg/gay here, we had them for eons.
They allow for variety via randomness, but can still be consistant once you get gud.
Its just a better way to implement rng mechanics
No that would be dice c**t, you can't build raw stats and have chance dictated by cards. But a dice can.
When you what you draw from the deck is random then yeah it is random.
Sounds like a great way to kill player agency and creativity. Which is why I ignore all card based video games. Tabletop is more robust so I'll concede it may be serviceable in those cases.
>having to make the best of bad situations and plan for numerous things that can happen reduces player creativity
Most moronic take I've seen in a while.
>I want to make a game but I don't know what gameplay is
Easy as piss to make. If you ever take a programming class, card games are one of the first things you learn to make. It's an easy way to teach arrays, enumeration, and randomness.
>Requires little to no animations
>Extremely easy to copy-paste from other games in the genre
Unlike game studios that make a product to sell to customers, many small devs are instead making a game that they themselves want to play. A single player game with linear progression and zero RNG would be extremely boring to such a person - they already know it inside-out from creating it in the first place so it's like playing the game for a hundredth time. Adding in RNG elements makes the game unpredictable even for the dev and thus allows even them to enjoy it to some extent.
At least that's the reasoning behind why I intend to have a lot of RNG in my game when I get past scripting the menu buttons.
Doomposters always make me laugh.
>tfw finishing up some P-ranks in Pizza Tower, before starting up another playthrough of Terraria, while doing some custom maps for Baba Is You, and then finishing that off with another 50 hour run of Starsector
Enjoy your shooters and movieslop.
>Starsector
kek, there's a game that's abused Early Access. Has it been a decade yet?
Yeah see that's the difference, wading through AAA garbage, you just find more garbage. Wading through trend-chasing cashgrab indie games, you can still find gold (indie games that are good and have effort put into them).
>starsector
Is good, shame its modding community is full of trannies and dramaqueens. They've been entrenched in the forums for so long that the devs won't tardwrangle them.
>shame its modding community is full of trannies and dramaqueens. They've been entrenched in the forums for so long that the devs won't tardwrangle them.
>he wasn't here for the Matt Damon controversy that completely destroyed the modding cabal
>Matt Damon controversy that completely destroyed the modding cabal
the what? i need the qrd
>user named Matt Damon
>virtuous good boy who's part of the modding cabal
>maintains several mods made by other people since they retired from the game
>he gets wind of R*pesector (mod where you capture and sex up enemy officers)
>throws a b***hfit and deletes his Take no Prisoners mod (which is what R*pesector is based on)
>this is stupid because people want the ability to capture enemy officers, and the no-no mod is now the only one that offers it
>but then he does the unthinkable
>he infects all of his maintained mods (mods he didn't make, mind you) with lethal game crashing code that permanently bricks your save if it detects that you have the bad mod installed
>however, the crash code checks for something that take no prisoners also does, thereby bricking saves of legitimate people who don't have r*pesector installed
>he proudly gloats about this on the forums and the discord
>discord cabal tells him to shut his mouth, but it's too late
>the lead dev, Alex himself, permanently bans him from the forum, and the discord modders have to ban him from the discord as well
>this actually gets him off of his ass and officially makes a rule forbidding any kind of malicious code
>several modders actually remove their mods from the forum and throw a b***h fit because they want to virtue signal
>all of his mods are then claimed by other modders, including the original devs who come out of retirement to fix Matt Damon's mistakes
>totale r*pesector victory
Holy frick, I would have never thought I'd see the day. I'm glad the dev is finally doing something, I really only used nex and speedup in the most recent update because I got turned off by all the shitty fanfiction mary sue faction mods. Starsector modding is healing
Lmao holy shit. What fricking game? I'm assuming Starsector from the title of the rape mod
this and games that came out years ago is the way to go
trust me, you missed out on a lot of games that are worth playing, don't chase the newest shit and reject f2p multiplayerslop
>I don't play indies but as a Chudcel I have a doomposter tier opinion about everything I need to spam everywhere, here I go, I am such a based alphamale!
Name 5 of your favorite indie games from the last 5 years
I'll just list the ones I have installed currently I'm not gonna bother checking dates to tell a Chuddie to shut up:
project warlock, snake pass, balatro, rain world, baba is you, death road to canada, darkest dungeon 2, salt & sanctuary, return of the obra dinn, outer wilds, slay the spire, Spelunky 2, enter the gungeon, earth defense force ( counts as indie frick you ).
And I also play countless old games, mods and doom wads.
LoL another Chudcel.
Remember, they're the homosexuals making twitter threads all day on Ganker, buying AAA games and being moronic as shit.
You lap up Black person cum LOL
>*incoherent/v/incel rage*
That's great. Now I'll go and play some doom wads. You're free to yell about indie games being made by trannies all day on Ganker while we play games.
why did someone draw manga fanart of hazbin hotel?
Because Japan is far ahead of the rest of the pack when it comes to style, design, in other words sovl.
>while we
no one cares about the voices in your head. take your medicine, schizo
>still lapping up Black person cum
lol
>more '2016 election tourist" type sperging
*yawn*
concession accepted
its kinda funny how whining about 2016 tourists has no merit anymore
Ywnbaw
opinion discarded
Take this list of indie games from the last 5 years and compare it say the games released in 1998, Yes AAA games are trash now, but these are all just okay at best. If you want me to get excited by indie games, start elevating games like in the past. That starts by stopping supporting shitty indie business practices.
It's up to my personal tastes. They're games I like because I can launch them and play them immediately, no story, no cutscenes, easy to control but not devoid of depth so there's no delay between the moment you press start and the one where you're having fun etc etc. That's why I never uninstall them.
I still have more "ambitious" games installed. I was playing armored core and death stranding lately.
You're missing the point. The second post in the thread posits indie games as the answer when they can't even compare to the great games of the past. If you want indie games to be the actual answer, then stop with shitty early access and shitty rougleikes and shitty art direction, etc.
That's your opinion. Outer Wilds digs a new hole in your "classics" if you're thinking about overated shit like muh Zelda and muh chrono trigger.
No one cares about Outer Wilds, it will be forgotten in 10 years. Its' not getting anyone excited about vidya like a Zelda game, even if I don't care about what Zelda is or has become. Absolutely deslusional.
Lol. You and your ilk have an uncanny compulsion to try and put down older, beloved games to prop up newer games everyone's already forgotten about.
Anon we've also been living in the shadows of giants for 25 years and new games have to try new things to differentiate themselves from games that have been an influence to the medium for decades.
Sorry troony, not buying your early access trash. Release your game, actually design your levels, and tell a story that isn't shit.
>NES graphics
you wish they had such soul
literally still better than anything AAA has going on at the moment.
Just because AAA is shit doesn't mean I'm going to eat indie shit, too. You homosexuals think its' one of the other, when I choose neither of those. And that isn't to say all indies are like that, but it's the trend and what floods the market of indie games, just like there are actually still one or two good AAA games even if the trend is more AAA games are garbage.
If you homosexuals want indie games to do better, stop flooding it with shit.
k but there still have literally been more good indie and midbudget games over the past 12 months than there have good AAA games
do you know how easy it is to make games? of course the market is gonna be flooded with money chasers. why not make a game yourself? (unironically)
>do you know how easy it is to make games?
Yeah you just have to look at all the garbage flooding the market.
But not better than Japan/Asia gaming kino.
Japan? Sure. But chinks and asiatics need to stop riding on their coat tails.
It's worse than NES graphics.
It's what zoomers think were NES graphics.
name one
kino
what kind of game would you like instead anon?
cause they're fun
There's plenty of indie games which aren't like that tho
There's indie games in almost every genre.
>NES
Get with the times grandpa, it's all PS1 today
And they still can't make it look as good with both lmao
>early access rougelikelite deckbuilders with shitty NES graphics that are just an allegory for depression
Name one that includes all of these
Celeste is most of those at least.
>2/5
>most
homie, where did you learn how to count?
why is this the definition of indie for everyone here? what about minecraft? what about stardew valley? what about any indie game that isnt like this
The anons who claim all indie games are retro inspired pixel NES platformers don't actually play indie games. Probably don't even play video games either.
They hated him because he told the truth.
But anon! They have UNREAL ENGINE 5 now for those next gen graphics! Think of all the stock asset fli- I mean "new content" they'll be able to utilize that won't totally all run together with every indie game looking and feeling the same right down to the animations and bad optimization!
Indie games are falling even harder, for every 1 good indie game there's 10000000 bad shit flooding the market.
We need to return to medium budget/sized games.
Don't worry, AI will allow everyone to make the best games ever and then every indie game will look triple A and be triple A quality but also be completely 100% unique and original like the best indie games.
Just hang on a little longer, AI will save us, Terence McKenna said it would and he was never wrong.
You are such a moron.
Not half as moronic as the luddites that reject AI.
AI is objectively the solution to all of these problems. With AI, anyone can prompt and game development will be cheaper than ever. Everyone will finally be able to bring their visions to life. It will be glorious and each man will be a nation of wealth unto himself.
No need for the market. Just games everywhere, each one a unique testament to its creator's ingenuity.
No more corporations, no more collectivist clusterfricks. Just individuals and the power to make games with no restrictions, forever.
Good morning xir
AI isn't a magic button that generates whatever you wish to be real, you moron. Holy frick, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Not yet, but it will be soon the groundwork is already laid.
It's good that the market is crashing because it will create a power vaccuum and AI can move in and replace the old creative industry with a new one.
The new industry will be one where there are no restrictions, no limitations, no censorship, just the freedom for one or two man teams to create the best triple A quality games.
AGI is right around the corner and with it anyone, even children, can ask their computer to generate games for them.
Anything you want
Fighters
Shooters
RPGs
Open world games
Hentai games
With further automation it will be possible for a single person to prompt thousands of games a day. It is an exciting time to be alive but you backwards facing anti-progressive luddite wienersuckers would rather stay mad that the old way is dying.
The old way has to die. It must die for new life to flourish. Kill it. AI is the only way to save gaming.
BASED BASED BASED
Imagine what AI will do to Indian religions.
Bros what if an AI has been pushing the left wing politics of the last 10 years to make people worthless and more easy to replace
AGI is gonna destroy humanity. And no, I don't think we're getting true AGI anytime soon.
>With further automation it will be possible for a single person to prompt thousands of games a day.
AI shills are some of the dumbest motherfrickers on the planet, you unironically think AI is some magic salve that will design EVERYTHING for a game: characters game world, levels, mechanics, music, everything
>excessively wordy and verbose
>unnecessary paragraph breaks
>ends by repeating something said previously
Oh yeah this post was written with chatgpt
Im being honest here anon, do you have independent thoughts anymore? Is AI your way of expressing yourself because you otherwise cant?
yes it is
this is only the future if we get the source code. otherwise, big corporations will frick us raw
>1 out of 1000 indie games are good
Yeah and 1 out of 1000 movies/songs are good too. What's your point?
Nah that shit is going to crash too. The only thing that will be standing is mobile games and a few GaaS giants.
>"Indie gaming" just becomes another venue for highly advertised slop
>Indie games get overshadowed in the sea of garbage being pumped out and gaming dies for real this time
grats you fricking moron
God i wish
>Indie games are falling even harder, for every 1 good indie game there's 10000000 bad shit flooding the market.
Good it's even easier to find the good ones
>We need to return to medium budget/sized games.
Yes please
Investors will take over indie games
maybe in your hearts and minds, but profit wise? No way. Once the crash happens, most games will be live service subscription based slop that will people will eat up, and large AAA companies will consider non-online singleplayer one-time payment games not profitable and not worth the risk. Reviews do not matter as people in mass amounts gobble up the slop and bring in sales.
They'll ban reviews and all comments. You get banned for speaking out against devs on Steam now. But you're right; it'll all be subscription service slop with MTX.
>Big company sees indie dev doing good
>Big company buys them
>Big company does big company things
>dev studio dies and so do their games
>Big company is fine because it is big company
>Big company sees indie dev doing good...
This. All the parasites and suits who latched onto this industry can get fricked. It's been a long time coming.
>will
Hollow Knight
Undertale
Celeste
Coffin of Andy and Leyley
Terraria
Baba Is You
TEVI
Pizza Tower
Cuphead
Palworld
Those are the names that I remember. The indie scene has been obliterating AAA slop for like 7 years straight now if not longer. Romhacks like Pokemon Unbound or fangames like AM2R are remembered more fondly than corporate stuff. Wonder what took people so long to realize.
>Cuphead
>indie
Not that anon, but didn't the same studio taht developed it also publish it? Granted the term "indie" really is a stupid word. Bastion would be considered "Indie" but it was backed by Warren Brotehrs. And Hades probably has a giant budget that is maassive compared to a lot of "indie" games but was self published.
Actually looking it up it appears so, could have swore MS gave them money or something but looks like they only had some involvement with the Switch port.
Also to be fair, Cuphead is just an okay game. Too much focus on boss fights with only a few actual platofrming levels. But it has great art direction which is very important for a VIDEO game that so much indie devs forget about.
I'm pretty sure MS paid for timed exclusivity
>not including rabi-ribi or momodora
I'll never understand bangwagoners for indieshit of all things. The entire point of self-publishing was avoiding this tired parasocial dance where you pretend garbage is gold and finding games you'd like to play that wouldn't exist otherwise, not conform to homosexuals and women like you were already doing.
>I'll never understand bangwagoners for indieshit of all things
Good games get popular. It's as simple as that
Patently untrue, as evidenced by those.
Contrarianism doesnt make you special, anon. And worse, it's stopping you from playing good games
It really is. You cant trust advertising and astroturfing. You can trust word of mouth
If you cant see the difference between the two when you read a positive review or recommendation for a game, it's because you're too young to be posting here in the first place
>You cant trust advertising and astroturfing. You can trust word of mouth
You can't trust either you moron. Plenty of garbage games are shilled here by word of mouth.
>shilled here
>by word of mouth.
Imagine talking big when you're so underage you cant tell if a post was made by an astroturfer. You're proving my point
Shilling is shilling regardless if your paid to do so or not. Cope however you see fit.
>word of mouth is shilling
Lmao. People talk about good games, and so good games get popular. The reason for your rage is the fact that this formula really is that simple and its breaking your irony-poisoned mind
Says the edgelord seething about games he hasnt played just because they're popular. It's not "cool" or "special" to be a miserable contrarian, kid. You'll learn one day.
>People talk about good games, and so good games get popular
It's the same with bad games anon which is my point. Also what rage? I'm not the one call people kids because they disagree with me.
>It's the same with bad games anon which is my point.
And If I asked you to give me examples, you'll list out every single AAA game released in the past 6-8 years. But do it anyway.
>I'm not the one call people kids because they disagree with me.
Im not calling you a kid because you disagree with me, but because you're too ypung and immature to understand the difference between word of mouth and astroturfing.You clearly werent around in the 90s when word of mouth was sometimes the only way you'd find a good game.
Manor Lords.
90% of threads here are shill spam. Depending on the game so are the posts.
It's when you see something small talked about months and years after release like Astlibra you know it's legit.
Shut up Astlibra shill
I wish it stopped me from wasting time with those, absolute garbage.
You're saying you played them all which we both know is false, but sure, kid. We all went through a phase once, you'll grow out of it soon
Rich. I'd tell you to enjoy that lobotomy but you don't feel anything, you're just desperately seeking approval from the very bottom of the societal barrel.
There's plenty of bad games that are popular so apparently it's not that simple.
DUSK was way better than Doom 2016 and Eternal
nudoom looks pretty on video but theyre quite shallow games. doom 3 was wayyy better even though people complained at first looking back it had way more soul.
homie everything is better than Zoom and Zoom Eternal.
>homosexuals praise Indie devs
>95 percent of Indie games are roguelikes, samey old doom clones, deck builders or some gay card shit and pixel bullshit sidescrollers metroivanias that are le allegory for depression and troonyism
>one different succesful game and it gets shit ton of clones by Indie devs who apparently arent tied down by big bad da capitalist shareholders n shiet
State of western Indie games is quite literally the same as AAA and you have to suffer from profound mental moronation to think otherwise lol. Pizza Tower came out last year and it already has two clones announced that will come out this year. What the actual frick man.
Oh great, I get to buy all my games in "early access" for 40 dollars which are then immediately dropped by the dev or take 10 years to reach 1.0
Gaming is dying for a number of reasons but one of which is oversaturation. There’s too many games giving too many options for people to choose. Literally anyone can make a game and no matter how shitty it is, it’ll be a choice among many for users.
No, it's going to be a reset where big studios are dumped and publishers hold the IP, key staff from these studios will either retire or found their own new studios, these people will sign deals with big publishers and the cycle will begin anew, it will be like the late 90s/00s all over again.
No, indie games are fricked too. Go look at steam and start looking at all the indie games. 95% slop that nobody is buying. Literal just shit. So many indie games blend together and look like millennial garbage pixel shit that looks 1000% worse than pixel games from the mid 1990s. Indie is going down with the ship, save for a few.
Good.
>indie gayman.
>taking over.
There is piles of homosexual shit, pretentious bullshit, and gay ass game genres like "deck builders" in indie games, the ones that aren't shit are the small percentage of indie games.
I'll play more indie games if you lazy conservative fricks actually made them instead of the lgbt subhumans.
You just never know the dev is conservative about most conservative games. Legends of Amberland games are made by a Polish Catholic dude but you wouldn't know because there is zero politics one way or the other in them.
>bro just compete with pajeets clogging the market by dumping hundreds of AI generated asset flips a days
If you don't have a marketing budget (at least $100k), don't even bother wasting your time with this industry
Bullshit. You just need an original idea and the skills/effort to pull through. Balatro is simple as frick, but it still succeeded because it had an original concept and good execution.
All you need is word of mouth, which is something that pajeet asset-flips will never have.
Already did years ago
You spelled retro gaming wrong
Ah yes, bad pixel art and asset flip no 12121213213. That is life...
LMAO, imagine outing yourself as moronic goycattle like this.
This, gaming was never meant to be some infinite growth corporate garbage to sustain thousands of employees functionally doing nothing
>indie gaming will take over
The vast majority of indie games are trash.
Just go take a good look at the endless ocean of indies on Steam, it's garbage. Try and tell me with a straight face that indie games are good on average. For every Hollow Knight or Outer Wilds, there are a ten thousand more terrible indies.
AAA games are and always will be better on average. People shittalk AAA games more because when one fails it's a public spectacle talked about by gaming outlets, it's a bigger waste of developer funds, and it's fun to prop up the underdog as an alternative. But even though only 1 in 50 AAA games is good, only 1 in 500 indies is good and those 499 shit indies are all worse than the 49 bad AAAs. You just don't notice when an indie game sucks because maybe two people on the planet hear about it, indies only start existing to you once they're the 1 in 500 that are actually good enough to get popular.
You are coping
The vast majority of AAA games are legit trash. Not many of them come out a year and maybe a handful every few years come out good
Meanwhile indie games are coming out weekly and there's always something for everybody. I've found at least 2-3 good indie games on a weekly basis and I already know you don't play video games due to your dick riding of AAA
>Meanwhile indie games are coming out weekly and there's always something for everybody. I've found at least 2-3 good indie games on a weekly basis
Post 3 good indie games that released this week, I'll go look at their gameplay previews on steam.
There is a massive oversaturation in indie market too. Winners (like Balatro, Lethal Company etc) win more than ever, but there is also more losers than ever.
That phenomenon is basically what killed most mid budget games too, studios need to either make hits only or die these days.
Good. Let it burn and return to the days where seven white guys in a garage can make games still played to this day
This
Im Black and if it means getting a good game, just put white devs in every game. Currently the industry just treats Blacks like token characters there to fill a quota. Not because they wanted a meaningful thought provoking character.
Make my video games and comics and Ill call that reparations. Aight?
>comics
Why do you care about comics? Manga is infinitely better and has essentially replaced it entirely by now.
Anime is great but I sunk so much into comics already. Not easy to throw away something thats been with you your whole life.
Modern comics threw away their old fanbases to pander to people who don't even buy comics, throw them away right back.
reddit spacing, post disregarded instantly
>Black
>white
have a nice day racist
>White
Happy now?
thanks Black bro
Why do you pretend to be black?
Go bother another group.
thank you uncle ruckus
i can't tell if this is a god tier ironic shitpost (unlikely) or you actually thought people would really think "a black guy totally wrote this" kek holy shit
the "aight?" made me lol
based, everyone knows black people can't write
This shithole has been mainstream since 2016 kek youre a moron if you think this is some aryan preservation site
>Good. Let it burn and return to the days where seven white guys in a garage can make games still played to this day
A fricking MEN brother!
One Asian dude making Cave Story >>>>> 7 huwite cucks making yet another dungeon crawler or doom clone
The original game crash was caused by them and the only good thing white guys ever made was Doom and Doom clones. White man does not even make anything of that calibur anymore because they don't want to make games anymore. They want to make glorified movies and Skinner boxes.
If we're going to pull inaccurate strawmen arguments, then all Asians ever want to make now are smootbrained gachas and by-the-numbers shovelware.
I'll happily take either of these over the faux-Hollywood alpha-build mass "appealers" designed by suits to appeal to no one and everyone. When the fricking PS5 is already in its latter stages of life with only a couple legitimate exclusives worth playing (or none in Xbox's case) it's time to rethink your industry.
It's still a thing you just got to know where to spend your money. Look at stardew valley, that game is a great and made by one white boy. He's even working on another game right now
>He's even working on another game right now
allegedly
>single frame stutter dropping FPS to 54.72 occurs in 30 hours of playtime
>Industry is broken. The rate at which things are declining is extremely worrisome. Feels almost hopeless.
Lets hope for it
Nobody wants to play woke shit. Fire all the diversity hires and DEI advocates then the industry can heal.
It's really gonna suck for you when you find out that there is more that contributes to shitty videogames than diversity hires and gay people on the staff.
Yeah there are also israeli shareholders and publishers
All your favorite boogeymen that Ganker told you to blame lmao
t. diversity hire
No one said there wasn’t coping troony game ruiner
I'm sure you see troonys every where, maybe even in the mirror and in your dreams and on your phone when youre in the shower.
You don’t know shit delusional queer
I'd love to see one of you pussies say this shit IRL and end up getting your ass beat in a YT video lol
dont let your dreams be dreams, go out and fight one of these chuds
>It's really gonna suck when one of the many leeches in the industry gets excised
Uh, ok?
Are there though
diversity hires make good games average or even bad. just look at rift apart and horizon, imagine if rivet has massive stripper breasts
this is true but economically everyone is going under, USA in particular even though we dont want to admit it.
The rot is too deep at this point. The entire industry has developed intense contempt for it's customers. Even without DEI, you'll still have devs and publishers treating their buyers like paypigs and ATMs that they hate and will never listen to.
The whole thing needs to implode before it'll get better.
The first crash was overblown. All that happened was the Atari ecosystem died. That was just barely more than one console that collapsed, but it was also practically the entire US console market. Arcades and PC were still a thing. Now all A, AA, and AAA needs to die off so that only people with an actual passion for the hobby stick around to make new games and it blossoms anew from that.
>Now all A, AA, and AAA needs to die off so that only people with an actual passion for the hobby stick around to make new games and it blossoms anew from that.
This will never happen since the industry is too big. What will really happen is the industry leads will fire more than half of their staff since they are useless quota hires and put people that know what they are doing on charge. Either that or they will face bankruptcy. The age of free money is over. The dollar is dying and the bubble is bursting.
Yeah, I also don't think it's a big deal. I've spent $500 on games since the start of 2024 and have yet to buy a single AAA product. Let em die, why should I care?
You shouldn't. It's a good thing they are getting weak. Life is never static. It's ever changing for better or worse.
>Life is never static. It's ever changing for better or worse.
It's a harsh truth, even harsher when you don't see it coming.
Lol. DEI is not going anywhere. It's only going to get worse once HR6090 becomes a bill.
They're not going to hire "competent people." They're going to turn A/AA/AAA into a mandatory battlepass/gamepass/subscription service and we'll all subsidize this worthless industry unless we stop buying consoles or move to Linux.
AI will solve the DEI problem. Everyone will be able to make what they want to make with no committee overseeing it.
They're not going to let you have AI powerful enough to make games.
They will because the dollar is also getting weaker at the same time. There will be a market crash soon which will also tremendously affect the gaming industry. The new AAA teams will consist of smaller work forces with a more direct management. They will fire most of their employees.
Bro. You think you're dealing with rational people. That's your biggest mistake. The entire industry is infested with a cult ideology. They're gonna "woke" everything to death, and you don't get a choice in the matter.
lol it would actually be hilarious if they could continue to do shit forever but that's not what will happen
>The dollar is dying and the bubble is bursting.
lol
>industry leads will put people that know what they are doing on charge
LMAO
>The dollar is dying
The dollar is definitely dying, but in case you haven't noticed, the rest of the world's currency is going even shittier than the dollar. The currency situation is a global thing, it's not just an american thing, and the dollar is actually doing very well comparatively
>the dollar is actually doing very well comparatively
>The dollar is definitely dying
What
Use your brain. I know you can do it. I believe in your. The sentences you "forgot" to greentext explain it pretty well
Not really.
You're a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron, then. No matter how badly the dollar is doing, and it is indeed doing pretty badly (though not as badly as when eggs were $7), the entire rest of the world has their currency priced in relation to the dollar due to oil (i.e. "petrodollar"). Think of it less like the dollar "dying", and more like the value of money for the average goyim, worldwide, becoming much, much lower as a deliberate function that was planned all the way back in October of 2019 during Event 201
>You're a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron
>inflation was planned all the way back in October of 2019 during Event 201
lol
You've had it explained to you multiple ways, you're purposefully ignored the text that explains it to you, and still you pretend like you can't understand. You are a purposefully obtuse, shitposting moron
The dollar is doing terribly, but the rest of the planet is doing even worse.
There you fricking moron, I explained it plainly for you
that's because dollar IS the global currency
Indeed. You can't reverse ten years of corporate ESG practices overnight.
Well said. These are my thoughts exactly.
Perfection
There were problems before DEI, it just accelerates everything MASSIVELY.
But yes, the overall purge of meritocracy in game development and design has been an absolute apocalypse, there will be a LOT of consolidation of these failing companies, probably all according to plan.
Whites aren't having kids, in the future most developers will be brown anyway
>in the future most developers will be brown anyway
In the future there would be no developers since everyone will be brown.
And a lot of you will cheer this on because developers...
...dare to put a rainbow flag in a game
...acknowledge that non-white people exist
...make meaningful changes during localization
...know that trans rights are human rights
...rightfully turn away from the male gaze
I was going to ironically take this bait and offer up my own ironic but not unironic counterpoint while larping as something that I'm not for shits and giggles, but why bother?
I just don't care anymore.
>acknowledge that non-white people exist
Awful bait.
"non-white" just means black to white Americans.
>to white Americans.
Europeans, too. Just look at Ubishit.
Sometimes I forget that Europe is a thing
6/10, the formatting makes it too obvious.
Yeah all of that is shit and was a mistake.
But they still did it and now the have to live with the consequences.
Yes
there are 6 cuties in that image
>Why aren't people spending $70 to look at these abominations for dozens of hours
Do SJWs really?
Yes, I do.
Correct. All those things warrant the destruction of the industry.
You're raise a good point, this crash isn't so bad after all.
Yes, so?
No. When I play a game, I don't want to be reminded that ugly people, non white people, stupid people, or gay people exist.
what if instead of fawkes trapped in the lab room begging the lone wanderer to let him out in Fallout 3 it was a gay man infected with AIDs begging for a vaccine.
preach it loud and proud brother
Yes. Absolutely.
I don't care if a dev puts a rainbow flag in a game as long as they give me the chance to set it on fire. That would be good gameplay.
Nobody cares.
There's no contractual obligation to support anything.
If I don't care, then I won't care.
This post is funny as frick, why are people taking it so seriously. This website is completely ruined, can't even enjoy a shitpost anymore.
American politics are the worst, but all the politics aside; white, beautiful and cute just sells. Everything else is a gimmick for publicity or distractions.
Im so proud of us
SHUT THE FRICK UP troony
looks like one of those pride poster signs.
are women even real? what are girls even doing nowadays? i have literally not interacted or talked with a girl for 8 years now.
1) the rainbow is the covenant of god and has 7 colors not 6, it's a christian thing
2) non white people are not people
3)unfaithful localization should be punishable by death
4)TTD (total troony death)
5)women compete for the male gaze
and also, frick israel and the israelites
>worshipping text written by nonwhite people
Go back to worshipping elk rapinng imps, pigskin.
you have a heart filled with hate because i merely posed to you the fact
the rainbow is the covenant of god for christians
now go frick yourself troony
Yes, that was written by us non whites, it is you Cuckasian pagans who decided to pervert the rainbow, because youbguys worshipped a that Loki transexual. I'm sorry your autism interfered with your reading comprehension.
i dont care, im just saying it's not a gay satanic symbol, it's a christian symbol
you can eat shit for all i care pajeet
You know you’re gonna have a nice day eventually so why? Just ACK yourself now and think of all the pain and embarrassment and shame you’ll save yourself from experiencing, you silly homosexual freak.
>stealing culture/religion
>troony
>stupid ass "male gaze" term for homosexual cuckasians
All white ghoul concoctions and propositions. This planet isn't for you, this is why the sun rejects you. Stay in your coffins.
butthurt Picker Of Coton detected
>European "Jews" are not whitoids
Nice try parasite, we don't like either one of you, we lump you all in together because your rulers are both collabing in vampiric behavior.
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200
It is you Anglos who are supporting Israel too, afterall.
Japanese gaming that's not trying to blatantly pander to westerners is doing fine. Who cares if the US video market collapses.
this is your mind on jap cum
>he plays western shit
>he defends western game companies
pft hahahahaha
I only play 20 year old computer games. I just think jap games are just as bad these days.
>I only play garbage western pc slop from 20 years ago that nobody gives a frick about
What a fricking homosexual
It's really not.
I'm having so much fun with dd2 and sandland. looking at trying musashi w whatever. Some great rpgs on Nintendo Switch too.
Most gays here play god of war onions slop and CoD, which is why they are anal weeping
sell sandland to me. from what I've seen it was instantly forgotten.
I'm usually easy to please when it comes to action JRPGs.
It focuses more on vehicle combat, which most games don't do right. The shooting feels good, encounters with other vehicles feels good, the vehicle customization is good.
The actual action JRPG part is serviceable. It doesn't feel that bad to handle, but it also manages to not overstay its welcome. You've very rarely shoehorned into it.
Finally, it honestly feels like you're playing an anime. Characters are likable, they shoot the shit with each other and it takes a while for the dialogue to loop. Dialogue also changes depending on where you are in the world and in the story, and if the girl is with you or not. I play with JP audio and english subs, and all the voice actors are great. There are even some """dark""" moments and/or tear-inducing sidequests that I think were handled very well.
thanks anon
>it honestly feels like you're playing an anime. Characters are likable, they shoot the shit with each other
I'm normally a combatgay but I'm definitely up for games like this too. I'll still probably wait for a price drop because I've got a bunch of other games I want to finish first.
>fun
Blast
Ehh not really interested in gachaslop.
>chase short term goals like mtx in gta online
>no single player dlc for rdr2, no rdr3 or gta6 out for years
Good. I haven't played a AAA game in like a decade and I honestly lose a lot of respect for anyone that says they play shit like Far Cry or Call of Duty or Fifa.
And only the AAA slop will crash and burn.
good huge corporations need to start losing a lot and get broken up
>corporate Black folk getting fricked
no one cares
Both OlliOlli and Rollerdrome are cool video games. That sucks. I hate that the executive that made this decision probably gets paid more than the entire payroll of that studio.
John is a tech optimist but an industry doomer. So he's still a homosexual because he thinks new hardware will ultimately make up for having shit software
Why would anyone make new games when you can just sell 40 dollar overwatch skins or whatever. Market seems unviable if you want to actually work considering the economics. You can just play Grand Theft Auto, Fortnight and League forever
I think we're already in the crash now.
>all digital services down
>physical chads reign supreme
The best outcome
>all digital services down
>all that frick money to keep them up
Can’t fricking wait
good
Meh, if the entire western gaming industry ended tomorrow, very little of value would be lost, as plenty of it is just woke shit any way.
>make literal billions with gta
>close small cheap as frick indie studios
kerbal studio was kinda obvious shit wasn't working but the olliolli devs did nothing wrong, olli olli world was great
psychotic greed demons
>Take-Two closes two literal who studios
>OH MY GOOOOOD THE INDUSTRY IS FALLING APART
Stop making shit and woke games and i might buy em again
>all the AAA blackrock woke diversity hire studios shutting down
>normies and homosexuals go back to social media and other dumb shit leaving the nerds to go back to doing what they do best, making vidyas
Gaming is healing.
AAA is dying, they just need to get their heads out of their asses, and make 3-4 10-20 million budget games instead of gambling on 1 200+ million budget games. The coof created a bubble that expanded with endless flows of cash, and now that bubble is popping.
Oh no not olli olli world!
i thought those were indie devs, never would have guessed they were owned by the GTA people lmao. this is what happens to sellouts i suppose.
I wouldn't mind a crash, there are plenty of games to play. If making games became illegal tomorrow I would be fine.
>my reaction to that information as an indie and retro gamer
Games have never been better. Companies rise and companies fall, its hardly newsworthy.
There isn't a frickin' video game crash happening you morons. Everyone over hired during covid and is laying off people to trim the fat
>In 2022, the global gaming industry generated an estimated $184.4 billion
>In 2022, the global recorded music industry generated $26.2 billion
>In 2022, the global movie industry generated $26 billion in box office revenue
Yup, crash incoming because Take-Two closed a couple nothing studios
Tbh overwhelming vast majority of that comes from mobile and F2Pslop. Hell, a lot of those are Asian games that no one here has ever heard of. Budgets are also ballooning like crazy, so high revenue doesn't necessarily mean healthy.
According to your image, PC gaming alone generates more revenue than the entire music industry. And while budgets for AAA games may be ballooning, I would wager that they are a minority of what people purchase and consume these days. Just look at random games like Buckshot Roulette taking off. AAA games could die completely and almost nobody would care.
Steam is only a tiny fraction of that revenue. Even AAA goysloppers are a small minority of the industry compared to the F2P and mobile behemoth, especially in asian countries. And again, just because revenue is high doesn't mean the companies are profitable, that it's sustainable, or that a single flop can't send a company under.
Who said anything about Steam?
Steam represents traditional gaming on PC, and even then Steam is dominated by F2P slop. Basically everything else is F2P mobile-tier garbage
well yes, according to the graph mobile is a tad more than 2x pc in revenue
Even without what you mentioned even your own graphic shows that PC or console by themselves make more money than the entire music or movie industries
>Require team of 30+ people to make shitty game that sells 1000 copies if its lucky
What do you mean this is unsustainable?
Meanwhile small teams with a focus produce something unique/better.
2 more weeks, sisters
>normalcy bias
you keep saying this but it never happens, stop giving me hope.
send all the bloggers to hell too, gameinformer, shitaku, euroshit, pc gaymer, all of them. shove your shitty games and blog posts in you're anuses
this time it is not a couple of boomers having an episode over easy difficulty in singleplayer games. they were getting rek for real, no 2 more weeks.
it is always been that way, a couple of AA and single developer gems in a sea of trash. when was the last time you felt the need to download a depression quest from itchio?
but it has the potential to drastically reduce costs in the short term
>no more AAA games made by westerners
>but now the market will be dominated by mobile gachashit by chinese and rollslop action "rpg"
China won.
chinks have a predisposition to gambling and are easily exploited? who would have though!?
Xi Jinping himself called gaming, "spiritual opium". I think counting on China might be a short-sighted take. The CCP is not a fan of gaming. On the other end of that, they know that games can make ass-tons of cash. So the party might just say screw it and go all in with investment.
The whole of gaming has a legal loophole because you can push gambling to children, it's how the vast majority of the money is made now
It's funny because back before mobile gaming was a thing and most games didn't have microtransactions governments did try to outlaw video games under anti-gambling laws. Countries like Brazil and Greece were trying to straight up ban counterstrike before steam even had a market.
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good.
Did they ever fix ksp 2?
Take a guess
The future is here and it's wonderful.
Good. I have plenty of vidya to outlast the crash.
This. 40 years of vidya out there, there is no way you can run out of things to play.
>worthless twitter thread
Wait until we get tiktok embeds.
You realize he's dodging all of the blows?
BEAT HIS ASS
rollerdrome was actually fun
unbelievably shit story but good gameplay
can't wait for them to revive and make walking simulators
I'm kinda bummed out Dwarf Fortress Adventure is still garbage
>industry that makes billions each year
>crashing
I know you Black folk wish gaming was crashing because you hate video games but gaming is too big to fail now.
>Industry is crashing
>Nintendo doing fine
>Again
Why does this keep happening? Why do they only ever thrive when everything around them goes to shit?
>Industry is crashing
citation needed
It’s not happening, it’s legitimately impossible for happen like it did in 1983
You can't force people to spend money on stuff they don't want. Eventually budgets bloat beyond what the industry can absorb and it all comes tumbling down.
moron, people still want video games and they are still making billions, you’re living in some fantasy land if you think millions of people don’t enjoy video games daily and spend a shit ton of money on them.
I see I'm talking with a member of the "But I did have breakfast" Club.
Go look at what happened to the auto industry if you want an example of how the videogames industry can fail.
It's mind blowing that they took what should be a money printing industry, and drove it into the dirt so rapidly There's a vacuum waiting to be filled.
You made your bed, now sleep in it. At least no more mean tweets!
If a video game industry crash does occur, my expectation is smaller staffs, smaller budgets and likely more focused projects being the norm.
Some publishers will sink, others won't.
Right now the industry is in a state of excess that bleeds money and talent for little in appreciable gains generally speaking.
Is now a good time to start working on my own game?
Unironically yes, buy low sell high. When an industry is down the trend chasing jeets go elsewhere so quality can thrive again
>buy low sell high
when people were saying april fools is going to trick people into thinking they're Ganker experts I thought they were meming
Probably too late, unless you don't mind being compensated in scrap metal and home grown vegetables.
Yesterday was the best time. Now is the second best time!
Now is the time to become a legend and cultivate your skills.
Thank god
If videogame industry crashes, as well as movies, nothing will be lost, people will start rioting against the system since there's no opium, and maybe we could start over
Frick ~~*them*~~
most games being played right now are 6 years old or older. i wonder if this is happening with movies and tv as well.
>Take Two buys up indie studios for muh growth and shuts them down for shareholder gibs when they have a bad quarter
>lol this doesn't affect me as someone who plays indie games
They'll do it again, you fools. They'll do it with an indie group you actually care about.
>AAA development budgets keep inflating
>sales can't keep up in time to make a profit
We all like to say the industry will eventually get better when AAA is killed off, but the truth is it's gonna take the rest of the industry down with it if it does.
Pssssst
If they’re bought by a megacompany, they’re not fricking indie anymore.
And frankly, getting gutted by suits is all they should expect if they take that bait.
I've been seeing people say another crash is about to happen for almost two decades now
>bloated AAA companies that are run by gigajews and create games that only appeal to DEI investors are collapsing
GOOD keep em coming
>somebody says his/her personal opinion that doesn't reflect the overall situation
>"It's over"
This prove that OP is a gay.
sharty won
pizza tower won
I went from someone buying a new game almost every week to someone who buys maybe a game or two a year and pirates the rest.
This is the result of them getting more greedy while also getting more incompetent from moving away from focusing on merit instead focusing on diversity or outsourcing to cheap indians
It's good to see crash, it deserves a crash, we deserve to see it crash.
>NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO SPEND 400 MILLION DOLLARS FOR 80k TEXTURES AND DROP 9 TERABYTES ON PROFESSIONAL VOICEACTING IN THIRTY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES!!!!
Why are game companies like this?
they dropped out of the optimized class with bloadted trash
Up until 5-8 years ago vidya was HEAVILY judged by how close to the “cutting edge” in technology it was. This led to “gens”, console wars, and generally the expectation that graphics would steadily, substantially improve every year. In 2008, a game LOOKING visually like a game from 2003 on the same hardware would make it a complete joke.
From around 2015 onward graphics development starting having higher and higher diminishing returns and consumers started seeing less difference in technical quality with every passing year. This caused consumers to increasingly weigh other factors like artstyle, genre, and gameplay above graphics in considering a purchase.
Meanwhile, devs are left with the massive teams needed for development/upkeep of these technologically advanced games without the returns to justify them.
The silver lining is, I'm glad the graphics arms race is finally ending, sorta. I'm sure the demands will always be there, but at least it's not as all-consuming as far as the audience's preference is concerned.
That is good, but the new threat with more normies flooding the consumer base is “star power”, brand name power, and other hollywood-like incentives are becoming more important. The VA industry is especially vulnerable to this, celebrities are gonna eat their lunch.
Yeah, that is a threat. Thankfully most of these incentives are mostly contained in AAA sphere (for now) so AA or indie development doesn't seem to be affected by it so far. However, there's always this fear that the mindset of "make video games to be just like Hollywood movies" in development format, star power influence like you say, and gameplay concessions will be even more rooted in the industry so that's something to watch out for.
The graphics arms race isn't even what is bloating the budgets. Spooderman 2 cost 300 million to develop, and it was an almost total asset flip. Look at the credits and you can see they literally had hundreds of "consultants" work on the game for dumb shit like DEI, which they also messed up. I refuse to believe they were that moronic and this wasn't just straight out money laundering.
My favor anecdote from that shit is they paid these "people" millions of dollars to make sure its all PC and they couldn't even get the Puerto Rican flag right. Lol. Lmao.
>ruin games to "add representation"
>don't even add representation properly
>Meanwhile, devs are left with the massive teams needed for development/upkeep of these technologically advanced games without the returns to justify them.
teams were definitely not massive at any point when these huge technological leaps were made. making impressive tech doesn't take 30 average programmers, it takes 3 really clever ones. however, for the most part, the problem is that
1. game companies refuse to consider talent retention as anything except a responsibility of the employee itself because muh passion
2. big tech has substantially grown in the last 12 years or so, with huge salaries to match
3. those clever programmers would eventually end up having impressive resumes that would get them hired at aforementioned big tech companies
there are other factors that go into it but i think we would routinely see a lot more impressive tech (not necessarily sheer graphics fidelity) if not for dumb game company management
nah highly not likely of course am saying that so it will happen.
hurry it up, I'm bored.
>killed the Olli Olli World devs
okay, NOW I'm annoyed
its been a long time coming
anyone with a brain saw this as early as 6-7 years ago.
only hope we had was there was that 1-2 year period during covid where indie devs could sit at home on neetbux to make a few good $15 indie titles, but AAAs have been dead since 2013 at least.
like you know its bad when 91% of games being played are 2~8+ years old, or older.
Couldn't be happening faster.
>videogame crash
You mean that thing that happened decades ago and that ONLY affected the American market?
It's already crashing anon
go woke go broke
They arent going broke for being woke. We are in a recession now and there are mass layoffs. We are where we were in 2006.
Matter of fact very few businesses go broke over woke shit. If liberals arent propping these businesses up DEI grants are. But because everyone is doing shitty there are no payouts.
Where does the money for the DEI grants come from? Yeah. Didn't think about that, did you?
frick off smooth brained troony
>literally everything flops now
>people just don't buy entertainment in a recession!!!
So you pushed an agenda in entertainment and now nobody buys it
>We are in a recession
??
Go broke, get woke, ultimately CROAK
>being worried about an industry that has this much demand
what a whiny gay
>bloomberg.com
fake news
The world itself is collapsing
>market flooded with asset library indie games being shit out every hour and AAA games being 5,000 billion dollar sweatshop creations with every little thing being monetized to frick over the consumer while they play games with journalist-tier difficulty
>maybe 1 or 2 real games released every year that are actually worth playing
Let all these companies go under, the ones that matter will be left standing
I am at peace.
indie kino will reign
We can only hope
Never even fricking heard of Olli Olli World or Rollerdrome and looking them up only made me angry they ever existed in the first place.
I'm so shocked the chuds are all buying Stellar Blade and not this absolute shit.
I genuinely don't give a frick. They could stop making video games entirely right now and it would have a negligible impact on my life. I have decades of kino vidyas I still haven't played.
And that's a good thing.
I don't even bother with modern games anymore, except for a tiny handful of indies with the decency to not waste my time with grinding and resource management and procedural generation. Other than that it's retro gaming all the way.
I don't mind
I have my own library that I have been building up throughout the years - plus ROMs library to top it all off - to last me a lifetime
It can happen tomorrow for all I care.
The last modern goyslop I have ever bought was the Elden Ring
glad i refunded ksp2 after playing it for one hour
>hopeless
I’m inundated with hope now that these AAA trash studios are going out of business.
I knew things were unsustainable 10 years ago, but the industry was being propped up by VC money and other speculative investors. Covid and the huge inflation spike fixed that, though. No more free money with the fed hiking interest rates. Every company that was being propped up with VC cash infusions started laying off people en masse and aggressively monetizing after that.
Gaming industry though is facing a crisis because they've long since shed all the people who know how to make a game cheaply and quickly. 15 years of bloatmaxing their companies has left them utterly stranded in the current economy.
>oh no the troony communist leftoid pinkos are going to lose their captured institution they worked so hard to parasitize
Thank god. Video games are for losers, let's be honest.
please god let lightyear frontier make it out of early access unscathed
LET'S GOOOO
It did. Back in like 1998-2001.
>Sierra, Maxis, Westwood, Broderbund, etc. get absorbed in series of mergers
>Remaining publishers angle toward consoles
>Tons of games liquidated at rock-bottom prices at places like T.J. Maxx
>PC game market dramatically shrinks
>Whole genres of games vanish
If you went into Wal-Mart c. 2005 and looked at the PC selection there would be mostly budget "tycoon" games and hardly anything "real". It was grim.
Disagree, it was the golden Golden age of crpg starting 1998 with bg up to 2006 with nwn and RTS too . Lots of good stufio died for sure but other were massive (and then shat the bed violently for Blizzard and Bioware)
But the same thing could be said of the "video game crash". People were still buying, making, and playing video games even if there was an oversupply issue and high profile games like E.T. bombed.
The late 90s and early 00s were the golden age of online PC gaming. If you think otherwise you don't know shit and weren't there, and I honestly pity you.
Sure i'm not disagreeing there. Personally i hope it's the end of the AAA model and we go back to mostly AA with a slightly bigger game once in a while. Perfect for me is nintendo getting 1-2 big game a year with a solid lower bjdget but a FUN game interspaced in there. Gimme 5 unicorn overlord, Octopath or Triangle Strategy instead 1episode of a remake any fricking day
Unicorn Overlord was full of soul, yes. But Octopath Traveler is jrpg-by-the-numbers. It's okay but very uninspired and barebones.
Smells like you know jack shit 1994-2004 was an insane decade of game development.
some games, especially old games are still good. thats all i'll ever need.
i never even touch the new ESGDEI games.
oh no if only they made more games with Black folk and lesbians in them!
The AAA industry is nearly worthless at this point. They're effectively unable to make something good, a good AAA game at this point is at best a lucky accident, if it exists at all. More often than not it's just ugly on purpose, runs terribly, made with zero passion and overly cinematic all at once. Oh no, the garbage peddling industry which has somehow turned into a grotesque mockery that makes products which are bad and ugly by design lost some money.
Well, at least smaller games that are actually good and cool still come out, in numbers larger than I can play, even though they're not immune to these problems either but there's enough of them that you can still find great ones.
last good AAA game that I played was horizon zero dawn. I feel like that game was accidentally good. Discovering all the future tech in a prehistoric veneer was so sick. Particularly when you're in the snowy mountains, I have a vivid memory of dropping down into some drone hanger. After having climbed in the snow for fricking hours to get there, the clean angular walls of the hanger were such a massive juxtaposition to the savage nature just above it. And inside was some high tech drone fighter jets just mothballed and sitting there. Amazing moment.
No it wont. You guys have been saying this for 10 years
>You told me ten years ago that I would die one day but it still hasn't happened! That must mean I'm immortal!
>muh crash
don't worry, goys. the industry will continue to stay afloat and push woke propaganda with taxpayer money
>the black budget of NASA is being used to produce ESG DEI videogames.
TOTAL
WOKE
BROKE
I thought John was a based retro and indie gamer?
Nothing of value will loss. Anti-Nintendo BTFO, enjoy the end of your movies and walking sims with camera over the shoulder.
>tendie can't stop obsessing over Sony
Kek, rent-free.
>second
There was a first time? When was that?
zoom zoom
Anyone posting kotaku journalist twitter drama should be permanently banned.
FRICK
OFF.
Ganker is an advertisement board and has been for some time now anon
Ganker is a fed softcore pornography board.
>malding this hard at shitaku posting
>when they are 2 weeks away from total closure
kotaku is so fricked nobody actually wants to buy it. I say just lock the doors with everyone in it and burn it down
We're already in the middle of it.
no its already over.
I'd love to see a video game crash, and believe I helped it happen. I'd also like to see that homosexual israelite Jason schreier commit suicide. he shouldn't even have a job in the industry
>random twitter user posts something and its very serious
Why are we just taking random twitter posts seriously these days? it doesnt even say anything its a twitter guy reacting to a post saying vague ass shit? fricking morons.
Nobody on Ganker plays games. Roll7 was a medium size team that made cool games. Take-Two is going to kill all these kinds of dev teams to fund free to pay slop. Don't worry though all those games will have troony flags in them so you can give them free marketing by whining like a homosexual instead of playing video games.
how well did forspoken sell, i saw loads of free marketing for it before release
I jerk off to the thought of all these DEI hires going homeless and having to suck dick to survive
Good. We're reaching the fall of Rome point.
>*FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP FLOP
GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED GET FIRED
2 more weeks
shit sucks i really enjoyed the olliolli games though im still not fond of the artstyle for the 3rd one
>$70 games pushing troony meds subscriptions destroyed the industry
The worst part is they are too scared to admit this.
The only problem I have with this, is that isn't not happening faster
Twitter thread
source? saucenao's not helping
imagine if all the corporate gays just up and left and all vidya downsizes
graphics return to basics, games get released 10x faster, and everything plays at high fps again
in order to stand out they need gameplay, design, and writing instead
demos get released again because no more pretty moving pictures to bait normalgays who don't give a shit
aggressive marketing campaigns get replaced with breasts
mtx mobile game meta goes out because devgays can't afford an entire account based system on top of trying to make a good game
success isn't enough to make frick you money and they need to stay humble and true to their audience of gamers
the actual videogame crash happened because shovelware was flooding the market and there werent enough reviewers to discern what was good or bad before people spent their money. people got burned a bunch and then stopped buying games for a while
this would never happen today because not only is their an abundance of solid material, there is also full playthroughs uploaded to youtube and reviews about literally every single game that gains even a modicum of an audience
if you got scammed by a shitty game, it is now your own fault. there will be no industry collapse, only the collapse of individual studios that fail to make enough money for their corporate kings
When was the first "crash"?
I've been playing games since the NES, and I never noticed a crash. I have been playing more indies as time goes on though
the NES was what fixed the crash
Oh, I see. No wonder I didn't notice
As a kid I only noticed that all the Atari games were super cheap all of a sudden due to stores dumping them so I didn't even know the crash was actually thing until it was already over. The 2600 never actually left the marketplace and was still being sold up until 1990 too, just with a much more diminished game output.
Happened in 1984 until 1985 when Nintendo and Sega revitalized the home market in the US.
Note that other countries didn't have a such a thing as game consoles weren't a big deal in EU and JP didn't care about US games so their market was totally unaffected.
Oh and forgot to mention it wasn't just third parties who caused it, the game console manufacturers themselves thought the profit line will always go up up up so they were overspending and overextending to the point the breaking point was reached and the line broke. Atari in particular was wasting money on stupid investments like bioreaders and producing way more cartridges of games than actual consoles in circulation as they truly believed games like the atrocious 2600 version of Pac-Man and E.T. would have move thousands of more console units.
Nothing ever happens.
wope
I doubt it
>literal who studios
Wow its nothing
good, accelerate
>rollerdome
brown female protagonist, i skipped
>KSP2
worse version of the first game, why would you buy it
Until developers stop making moronic decisions they should be punished and out of a job.
Unironically this. I got Rollerdome for free on the ps games catalogue cos it looked really cool but the gameplay ended up being honestly pretty mediocre. And KSP2 is what this anon said, literally a worse version of the first game. Like to the point where is has NO REDEEMING FACTORS OVER THE FIRST ONE.
You can pull out these random shit games that bomb and scream "the crash is coming the crash is coming!" And I can just pull out games that have done EXCEEDINGLY well like helldivers 2 and BG3. Game studios will die. Its been happening since the fricking 80s.
The first video game crash happened because there was a flood of broken, low-effort knock offs for existing games on the shelves. People didn't know what was good and what was shit, because the only info on video games was a few rare printed magazines.
Trust/Interest collapsed and most of the developers were over-leveraged, so the market collapsed with it.
Nothing like this can happen today anymore because of the wide-spread indie/AA scene as well as people having access to info about games everywhere.
>muh woke/DEI/SBI/ESG
Nobody outside of Twitter cares and general audiences aren't composed of the terminally online social media morons.
>Nobody outside of Twitter cares and general audiences aren't composed of the terminally online social media morons.
Yeah, well adjusted people don't have meltdowns over a black person being in a video game lol.
Yes because it's that and not blatant pandering to the lowest common denominator, disingenuous moron.
See tomb raider.
>there was a flood of broken, low-effort knock offs for existing games on the shelves. People didn't know what was good and what was shit
i dunno, sounds kinda familiar
The existence of shovelware wasn't the problem, it's the fact that they were landing on shelves just as much as AAA products. Customers didn't know if the game they just bought was the real deal or a shitty copy.
This destroyed consumer confidence and collapsed demand.
Nowadays you can tell immediately if the game is actually real or just a scam. And we're talking about actual scams, not "this Ubishit game was boring".
There will be a crash. But it'll be in the form of the majority of AAA companies failing to understand they cant just make the same slop or follow the same trend all together because each trend has a very specific amount of leeway before it snaps and no one cares anymore.
The last 5 years of live service bullshit sprouting up because its the more efficient and profitable game type without understanding that by design a consumer isnt going to be playing more than one or two live service games at a time because of the way they demand attention is a good example.
How many hundreds of millions do you think have been lost on these absurd endeavors. Spiderman 2 sold millions, but looks like it barely made back its money (if that) due to the MASSIVE cost of production, to the point that they let go a huge chunk of the studio?
Meanwhile BG3 acts like the gaming industry is back in 2010 and makes billions.
Trends have always come and gone. Remember the era of non-stop MMOs? Live-Service will die the same way and something else will come along.
The firing of developers isn't out of necessity, but to recoup costs through tax write-offs. C-Suites write their game off as a loss, fire a few hundred people and exit the company with a fat severance package. It's just the usual vulture capitalism, but it's never been this prominent in the gaming industry.
They'll bleed the AAA studios for a bit and then move on to something else, probably streaming or mobile apps.
the first crash also only really happened in north america
No it wont. AAA isnt videogames, its slop for normalgays like you.
Let them die, lets go back to everyone making good, passion project games for fun instead of ESG investors.
oh no...
maybe try making good games next time? idk
bloated umbrella companies will die, profitable studios will triumph.
it doesn't matter if the gaming industry collapses. i was never going to play a propaganda game anyways. its too late for globo, enough masterpieces with infinite replayability have already been made back when gaming industry wasn't shit.
as long as we have computers we can just play these old games forever. and computer hardware keeps improving so i can play my classics at 300fps in vr eventually.
Finally, you can't just make shitty ass ESG games and live as a studio.
But video games suck wiener now
Good.
Total Industry Crash
>OlliOlli World 2 never ever
it has never been this over
Wasn't Kerbal Space Program a fricking indie? Why did they let Take Two take over?
The original dev cashed out and gave the IP to Take Two. It's not being worked on by the devs of the first game whatsoever.
Oh thank god please let it happen
>AAA industry is crashing so publishers have to drag the indies down with it
Shame.
I'm no 3A dev, but why can't these people scale down their projects or try to save money ? why every game has to be 100mils instead of 10 ?
>Line can no longer go up
>"The industry is broken!!!!"
Only AA/A games are fricked which is fine by me.
>CEO's and other wall street parasites running things into the ground
AAA gaming was a mistake, and yet the real gems of gaming still will shine through the bullshit and make huge profits.
Oh no, what'll I do without the AAA slop
Captcha: ASSS
neither of those studios work on AAA, try again
You're quoting wrong person my guy.
>AAA fails
>Indiegames return
>Piracy obliterates MTX
>only way to succeed in gaming market is by making gud geimu
Timeline restored.
Oh no! How horrible!
I sure hope so
AAAA games will save the industry.
most bigger studios don't take risk and are on auto-pilot.
rockstar, considered one of the best, hasn't innovated since gta 3. we've only seen technical upgrades the last two decades. rdr2 looks amazing, gameplay wise it's extremely boring and limiting.
the input interface hasn't seen an update since 2000. dualshock was the last one. it has become quite boring pressing the same buttons.
GOOD. The crash needs to happen (again) so we can fricking purge all of these bottom-feeding woke pricks out of the industry, give it the chance to rebuild even if it takes a few (and it will) decades to recover and let these israelites frick off back to their normie shit.
Good. Hope the western industry burns to the ground and never recovers
aslong as i get my dick jerked off and i have fun in the video game i dont care how they make it
take your culture war somewhere else
>second videogame crash
Dude we will see a full fledged depression. Who cares about video games crashing its ganna get bad
Firing DEI enablers solves nothing. The ~~*shareholders*~~ are the root of everything.
why the hell do you guys even care about AAA slop to argue about it anyways? just dont even play or watch it. dont buy it for your kids.
as long as globo doesnt find a way to DEIify Squad we still have good games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6behqmCVos
Remember this is the guy who doesn't care about games at all. He just cares about [current highest resolution] and [current highest frame rate]. His argument for console manufacturers going third party is shit like he wants to play Zelda in 4K 120.
Who cares? There are hundreds of great games waiting for you to play them.
I'm playing Diggles and Land of Lore right now and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
Next on the list Desperados.
>take two owned kerbal
The frick?
Why are you zoomers too moronic to understand the original game crash? Why do you also want to larp events you heard about in inaccurate YouTube video essays?
Hint, the original game ceash was not over shitty triple AAA studios(Which did not even exist) having to close down side studios they owned.
Good.
It is healthy for the forest that it should experience a fire once in a while. It opens up space and feeds the new growth.
It's not happening soon enough, or affecting enough companies or genres yet.
i thought those were indie games. take two developed them?
>Put out Game
>Work on it over a long period of time
>Finish development, game has lots of shit in it
>Release Game 2
>It has less than 10% of what game 1 had
>Fails miserably
Many such cases! Also, the original devs sold their name and dipped out.
>guy who only cares about graphics/performance
he's a literally part of the problem
Micro GODS we never had a “”””””””””crash””””””””””””, come home to the Commodore 64 White Man
videogame crash will happen in your lifetime
Good.
Already got plenty of good games to play from the past 20 years
People need to stop being consoomers & realize they don't need to play modern games