>See a video called "Smash characters most good to most evil ranked."
>Don't know them all, think I might learn something about characters.
>They start off by saying Sora is the most good character on the roster.
>already know it's bullshit because of this
>Say it's because he's a disney protag
>This 100% means nothing.
>Go on to say he constantly shows mercy to his enemies and talks things out with them like Steven Universe.
>mfw he has never once done this. Ever, in the entire series.
>Later they say that Pit is good because Dark Pit is good and he is "the personification of everything bad in Pit's heart"
>Couldn't even be close to the truth
I don't understand why these "people"(npcs) are allowed to post things. They didn't even try to look at gameplay or cutscenes for these characters. It was over an hour long video, and the whole time they were making it they never even considered not just making shit up. Why? Anyway, is there anybody here who knows all of the characters and can actually tell me who the most good is?
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bro clicked on a low effort youtube video and was so upset it was low effort he made a shitty thread on Ganker about it. this man has nothing interesting about him
But I didn't know it was low effort at the time.
here's how you can tell
>smash
or
>ranked
thx
>was a 8-12 minute video
>did it have a click bait title
>did it have a click bait thumbnail
There's too many ways to tell, you're just an idiot if you sincerely struggle
Can you read? I said it was over an hour long.
>did it have a clickbait title
>Smash characters most good to most evil ranked
can you read?
Well excuse me for not knowing what qualifies as a clickbait title. If you can tell then you spend too much time there.
So you are mega moron.
No you are. Tell me how I'm supposed to know the title was clickbait without having spent too much time on the internet?
Use your fricking eyes
That isn't helpful.
Sora killed like half of the org members in CoM lol
This dude thought he was Goku
You clicked on the clickbait, which means you earned them money. You're the only npc here.
>I don't understand why these "people"(npcs) are allowed to post things.
Because people like you will watch their videos and give them money
>They didn't even try to look at gameplay or cutscenes for these characters.
Why would they?
You don't need that for clicks
Frick you I didn't watch very much. I only clicked because I was hoping to learn who the frick the fire emblem characters even are.
Sora is canonically good because he's literally too pure to effectively use darkness.
Anti Form?
>anti form
>rage form
>sora literally being the prime candidate for a new xehanort vessel in KH3D
>oblivion having Dark Form in KH3
Anon, Sora's not too pure to use darkness, he's too susceptible to it to use it without risking being taken over.
This doesn't mean anything. Riku proves you can be a good person and still use darkness. Not to mention it's been brought up a few times that darkness isn't inherently evil. It's just the opposite of the light. It's misused by many of the villains to do evil, but it's a neutral force.
So what actually are light and darkness? Are they the equivalent of the red team and the blue team with no functional difference?
No, it is inherently functionally evil.
Riku is just a good boy and gets to use it (because ?)
They're basically elements. Light tends to make people overdose on power and go on roid rages, where overdosing on darkness corrupts you until you turn into a fricked up shadow monster thing. Unless you factor in the fricking weird shit the mobile game hinted at with Darkness potentially being the manifestation of some eldritch God but I'm choosing to ignore that because I really don't want to fricking fall down that rabbit hole.
What the frick are you on about. What do you think his anti-forms are? What do you think Oblivion is? What do you think his Nightmare is? He’s literally dipping his feet in Darkness every other day. He is good though, sort of.
Or 1. Or 3. Or DDD, or basically any game he’s in really. He kills human and humanoid enemies very frequently.
anti-from.
rage-form.
effortlessly casts rapid dark firaga bursts with rikus limit.
nomura is moronic.
You made this up anon...
Yes, that's what I was talking about.
>>Go on to say he constantly shows mercy to his enemies
someone hasn't played 2
Or Chain of Memories.
KH1 sora just killed everyone and everything, asked pertinent no-bullshit questions and didn't partake in "fake rapport" braindead cheeseball anime dialogue and calling everyone he meets his friend like KH2 sora onward.
such a shame.
>and didn't partake in "fake rapport" braindead cheeseball anime dialogue and calling everyone he meets his friend like KH2 sora onward.
literally when does this happen
at the end of each world usually.
it gets worse in 3. it does that gay anime shit where someone does something completely unfunny and sora goes "oh you" or some shit and they all laugh as the camera zooms out.
What? He befriends people who don’t try to kill him, and kills those who do. Are you okay?
they're not friends. they've known each other like 10 minutes and then he leaves.
sora has mental illness.
>He can’t befriend people in the time it takes Sora to complete a world
Anon, I think YOU have the mental illness. The disease is social ineptitude.
>hi i'm sora.
>oh those things are called the heartless let us handle them.
>have you seen anyone from organisation 13? or darkness darkness hearts darkness darkness exposition autism *mental illness intensifies*
>*places hand on heart*
>*insert some completely uninvited gay spiel about hearts and friendship from this moronic homosexual you just met*
>oh now it's time for us to go but don't worry well always be best friends. I'll always be with you"
>or darkness darkness hearts darkness darkness exposition autism *mental illness intensifies*
I’ll admit you made me laugh with that. However 99% of worlds revolve around Sora actively assisting both with the Heartless situation and whatever actual issue a character is handling (Beast with his erectile dysfunction, Simba with his daddy issues, Buzz with his depression etc)
It does make sense that after helping them out with said issues (and the rambling about light), they become friendly.
>don't worry well always be best friends. I'll always be with you
He only says this to Winnie the Pooh because Pooh is trying to get Sora to stay in the 100 Acre Wood forever. And that's only because Pooh got amnesia and didn't want to forget Sora again.
KH1 Sora didn't kill anyone anon. The first person he ever killed was Larxene in chain of memories. Everyone who died in 1 died from accidents or whatever like the bad guys do in the movies. Even the final boss was killed by the door.
The first person he technically killed was himself. Yes turning into a heartless = death that’s how it works.
That isn't how it works. Who told you that being a heartless means you're dead? He came back from it three seconds later.
He literally killed himself. Becoming a heartless means you’re dead, your heart has left your body and you’ve perished. He came back because something something light friendship. If he didn’t die, then Roxas wouldn’t exist.
But like just because your heart left your body doesn't mean you're dead. In fact Roxas had Sora's body and his soul, just not his heart. Also, Roxas's design is the coolest shit in gaming. I wish I had a ds.
Souls and hearts are the same thing. Roxas is Sora’s nobody, Nobodies form as empty, heartless husks when someone dies. Two hearts can occupy the same body though. Basically what I’m saying is, Sora killed himself so Roxas could be born.
No, he killed himself because Kari was inside him.
>souls and hearts are the same thing
No they are not dude. How many times in the games does it say that souls and hearts are different? It's at least two and that's more than zero. The secret journal pages mention and Yen Sid says it when he is explaining what a nobody is. It's a body and a soul without a heart.
Oh I’m just a misremembering moron then. Frick, I need to do a replay of the older titles at some point.
And don't heartless still have their heart, it's just disconnected and buried under an insurmountable amount of darkness? Like the heart is still inside of them, but inaccessible? When you kill the shits the heart comes out and goes to the moon.
But who is the most good smash character? Is it Kirby?
Pit is probably up there since he's a direct force of good rather than a neutral party who ends up doing good like Kirby. Same goes for the Belmonts.
Honestly it should be Kirby. All his friends and allies were like former enemies of his, he's like better than Jesus.
Kirby is is too neutral. If he gets his food and his sleep and you don't frick with that he's not really good for anything until someone tries to destroy his planet.
Pit is just straight up an angel, hard to argue against that. The Belmonts have titles and probably lands. Who works the Belmont lands? The serfs.
Return to dreamland. Randomly helps a poor sod who crashed on popstar.
Kirby 64, leaves popstar to save ripple star to help Ribbon
Amazimg Mirror could've left metaknight for dead in the mirror world.
Rob
Nah. Rob commanded an entire army and massacred thousands in the Subspace Emissary.
Under duress. Risking the extinction of his people.
The people who are making the videos are rarely the people who know what they're talking about. It's an entire industry, WatchMojo is literally just a channel of people ranking things they've never watched or played.
I thought sora had a super pure heart which is why the keyblade chose him
iirc it only chose him because Riku was such a massive frickup, so it went to the next available person
Sora has a super strong heart, not pure. I mean, it is also pure, but that's not why the keyblade chose him.
Sora's heart isn't pure, it's strong. The timeline of events is:
>Destiny Islands is exploding
>Keyblade shows up to give itself to Riku
>Riku is too busy ODing on Darkness
>Sora touches Riku's heart, somehow
>due to (shenanigans) the Keyblade goes to Sora while Riku gets sent to Hollow Bastion
>KH1 happens up until HB
>Riku takes the keyblade back
>immediately loses it because he's still ODing on darkness and Sora's heart is stronger by this point
>Sora keeps it the rest of the series
Having a strong heart doesn't make you more pure in KH, it only makes you stronger. The only people in the series with 100% pure hearts are the Princesses and Ventus, and Ventus was literally heart-lobotomized to achieve that.
But isn't Ventus also Sora?
No. KH1's plot was written way before BBS (where ventus happens) but the quick rundown for anyone unfamiliar with KH is:
>Ventus gets heart-lobotomized before the start of BBS
>Xehanort takes Ventus, basically in a coma, to destiny islands
>Coincidentally this is around the same time Sora is being born
>Sora's newborn heart meets comatose lobotomite Ven and essentially uses its power to fill in the part Xehanort carved out
>Ven wakes up as a pure-hearted amnesiac who's still semi-moronic
>BBS happens
>Ven's heart gets so unbelievably fricking nuked at the end of BBS that, using the connection it had established with Sora during the original repair, it flees Ven's body and hides itself in Sora's heart while repairing itself
>from KH1 up until near the end of KH3, Sora's basically just unknowingly smuggling Ventus's comatose heart in his own
>Go on to say he constantly shows mercy to his enemies and talks things out with them like Steven Universe.
lol
i can't believe he killed the organizations comic relief character in cold blood like that. I love how sassy he is in kh 2.
I mean, it's probably Sora.
Sora's the one who most explicitly gives a shit about troubles impacting the random folks around him, bar maybe Link or Mario.
>Later they say that Pit is good because Dark Pit is good and he is "the personification of everything bad in Pit's heart"
This is basically what we're told in Kid Icarus Uprising? Dark Pit is a reflection of Pit's most negative traits, but at worst is kinda a dick while still overall believing in justice.
>did not play kid icarus uprising
Dark Pit was made to be an exact replica of Pit but the mirror that was making him broke before he was done cooking. It has nothing to do with any of pit's negative traits.
Yeah I know the video you are talking about. They wouldn't give Fox a higher spot on the good side list because "he's a merc" even though he or his team never really did anything evil or even morally bad. They don't even take dirty or evil jobs during the slow years of Star Fox adventures. So it's odd he'd block him like that simply for the job he has.
>sora calls a villain the N-word, mercilessly slaughters them, and taunts their allies
how did he get away with this, bros?
It doesn't seem like anyone is taking the question of who is the best seriously.
Sora hasn't been pure or good ever since he was (mind) raped by Marluxia.
Heartless are hearts corrupted by dark
Nobodies are bodies without hearts(but they grow back)
Can someone explain why everyone says roxas looks just like sora ingame, but to us he clearly doesn't? Is it a gameplay vs story thing where characters see something different from the player?
No they see the same thing we do. It's just his face is sort of shaped like Sora's. Just don't think about the hair or skin tone and it looks slightly similar. Everyone who thought Roxas was Sora probably thought he had been spending more time indoors at a computer and dyed his hair.
No they literally have the same face model in original KH2(FM) it's not till the HD where they change it. It's literally just the hair and slight eye shape that makes you think they look different
behold: the most good character of smash
literally a unironic terrorist
woah there, partner
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>Go on to say he constantly shows mercy to his enemies and talks things out with them like Steven Universe.
My guy wiped half the Org in CoM and had smack talk in KH2
Mans doesn't show mercy to fuggin Jafar or guys like Xigbar
Literally every conversation he had with an Org member was varying degrees of anger or smack talk unless they were already beat.
Sora's a compassionate guy but he's not a bloody pacifist who tries to settle things without fighting he been squarin' up ever since KH1.
Steven Universe was a fricking anger fueled timebomb in the fuggin Future show too