>Having to setup the fricking online service on your portable gaming console everytime is annoying as shit.
Right, you can't use the internet once to activate your denuvo game but you somehow could download it to begin with.
I have no idea about any of this, but I don't see how you can add extra processes to a game with ZERO performance differences. Maybe NEGLIBLE performance differences but it's physically impossible for it to be zero.
You can watch dozens of videos on youtube showing the difference between games with denuvo enabled and disabled. There's always a small performance difference favoring it being disabled.
>brings deck up because it's compatibility info said no internet requirement which means no denuvo >hurr I just hate deck they vegan
The only homosexuals I see bringing up veganism are the ones b***hing about it. You go overboard with this type of shit and you become what you claim to hate.
>can't read >just sees deck and gets mad
The deck's compatibility info is how they caught this. They mention the deck because it's how they figured out sega was being sneaky.
>Why would they highlight relevant information like what system theyre using or the need for games without required online? >Huh, must be a classic deck boast!
If you take "reviewers" seriously in 2023 then you deserve to get scammed.
The best and time-tested method to see if the game is good is to do the opposite of what Ganker says. The second best way is to find a youtuber who is autistic about that particular game's genre and see his nuanced opinion.
Illiteracy at it's finest.
It's not a game review, but certification for release by a company. They provided a build for certification, then released a different one. The Terms of Service technically give Valve the right to remove their publisher status and prevent them from posting new games on Steam.
>They provided a build for certification, then released a different one.
You don't need certification to release updates on Steam. That's not how it works. Every SEGA game has Denuvo. Why is this news to you people?
You guys are misunderstanding why the Deck was brought up. Games that require an online connection have to say so in their Steam Deck compatibility info. Sega shows valve the Denuvo-free build, and skips the online requirement on the Deck notice. This misleads customers into thinking it wont have Denuvo.
Deck is only being brought up because it was what made the user think the game wasn't going to have Denuvo before release.
>Refund game >Explain in the refund reason that the game introduced an online component around the time of release thus misleading you and that you have no desire to support shitty DRM. >Get your money back >Eventually, Valve will get so many complaints about this same shit they'll do something about it >??? >Profit
>Eventually, Valve will get so many complaints about this same shit they'll do something about it
This part will never happen becasue the people who care about this are a significant minority.
Horseshit. Recently valve added the ability to search by tags because a small group of morons kept typing "shooter" and "strategy" into the search windows.
Broken, unplayable games are a far cry from games unexpectedly featuring obtrusive DRM. There's not enough people who care for the scenario described in
>Refund game >Explain in the refund reason that the game introduced an online component around the time of release thus misleading you and that you have no desire to support shitty DRM. >Get your money back >Eventually, Valve will get so many complaints about this same shit they'll do something about it >??? >Profit
If you played Resident Evil Village at release on PC you'd know better.
Every time you killed an enemy or they grabbed you, there would be a shitton of slowdown and stutter, and it was because of Denuvo constantly running in the background.
If you played Resident Evil Village at release on PC you'd know better.
Every time you killed an enemy or they grabbed you, there would be a shitton of slowdown and stutter, and it was because of Denuvo constantly running in the background.
Also pretty much every time a developer decides to patch out Denuvo (after they've already made most of their sales), the performance improves. It's very obvious what's going on.
You know what else would work on your PC? Malware.
The point wasn't about it working or not in the first place but, if we're on that topic, I sure would like to know why I have to pay and subject my PC to virtual machine obfuscation bullshit that denuvo does. It's not a benchmark but I am not paying to stress out my parts extra for no reason.
>Every time you launch it, you get a prompt that making a Epic account is mandatory. Though you can get around it by clicking the X in the top left corner, it shouldn't even ask for a Epic account on Steam.
lmao
>It installs Epic Games in order to run.
Clicking "Quit Game" opens the manual sometimes, and the only way to fix it is by restarting the game (via alt-f4 because you can't quit normally!) >Actually quitting the game (either normally or via alt-f4) makes steam say it's "Stopping" until you end task Steam. Every time.
If you press start on the title screen at just the right time, the menu never loads, softlocking the game. I've had this happen 4 out of 12 times I've launched the game thus far.
Why is PC gaming like this?
>no one understood that if you didn't update to a new version, you'd still be under the previous TOS, because Unity hid the old TOSes
No older games would have been harmed, if they didn't update to the latest version of Unity. But no one wanted to report on that, or share the TOS that Unity hid.
ok but with this knowledge couldn't you just download the denuvo-free build before they patch it? all it takes is one autist succeeding and denuvo now becomes completely pointless
No, in this kind of example, only the pre-release build given to valve has Denuvo. Denuvo is added for the release build, which is what the consumer has access to on day one.
>and nobody complained
Because it only seems to affect world tour, Battle Hub and Fighting Ground don't have any major issues.
That being said, people did complain, Street Fighter as a series just normally gets waves of aggression thrown at it regardless of shit like that, so you didn't notice.
To maximize sales?
Mentioning Denuvo on your Steam page apparently kills preorders because most developers stopped disclosing that and they just update the page a few hours before the actual release date, Sega probably decided to go a step further beyond.
SEGA screwed over the Hyenas fanbase by cancelling the Hyenas 1.0 release without even allowing users to get back at those billionaire b*stards like they said they would in September and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Good.
Let sonic enter the open domain once the frickers are out of business.
I am going to not buy any sega produced title, I am sorry for the occasional good game like the darius collection but it is necessary.
>Let sonic enter the open domain
while this would literally never happen, I wish it would, I would bet money on a guarantee sonic autists will make better sonic games than sega.
That one was probably a genuine Atlus frickup as the store page mentioned Denuvo long before the game was out, or at the very least longer than most games do
Id did something similar I believe
id released a drm-free version of doom eternal, to costumers, by accident
That should be illegal. Maybe it is. It's certainly deceptive, and malicious.
at the very least it's false/deceptive advertising right?
They already got your pre-order money game over
Why does every Steam Deck owner need to mention it every fricking time
Because its a portable gaming console.
Having to setup the fricking online service on your portable gaming console everytime is annoying as shit.
>2 hour battery life even for games from 2020
>portable
Lol
Lmao even
>even for games from 2020
2020 is extremely recent, though.
>Having to setup the fricking online service on your portable gaming console everytime is annoying as shit.
Right, you can't use the internet once to activate your denuvo game but you somehow could download it to begin with.
Denuvo reduces performance, which might not be an issue on a PC but it's a death sentence for the deck
Not to mention a PORTABLE device shouldn't be susceptible to always online DRM.
Good thing Denuvo isn't always online, right?
>Denuvo reduces performance
woah there friend. a very rich person made a journalist post about how this isn't true.
See it like this, anon: if you dont have a decade old mid tier cpu, the hit to performance would not be noticable. Only on struggeling hardware.
>denuvo shills are ESLs
explains a lot
It wasn't a journalist who reviewed 47 games pre-and post- denuvo removal and showed 0 performance differences blowing out the salty pirate lie
I have no idea about any of this, but I don't see how you can add extra processes to a game with ZERO performance differences. Maybe NEGLIBLE performance differences but it's physically impossible for it to be zero.
You can watch dozens of videos on youtube showing the difference between games with denuvo enabled and disabled. There's always a small performance difference favoring it being disabled.
Steam Deck obviously has different hw id to your pc so denuvo causes problems if you wanna play some game on pc and later continue it on deck
>letting corporations load closed source rootkits onto your device is perfectly safe and ethical!
because they're homosexuals
They're like vegans
>brings deck up because it's compatibility info said no internet requirement which means no denuvo
>hurr I just hate deck they vegan
The only homosexuals I see bringing up veganism are the ones b***hing about it. You go overboard with this type of shit and you become what you claim to hate.
Because it's relevant.
Steam Deck runs on Linux, so they got a more mild form of the Linux Brainrot where you gotta mention and shill it every chance you get
>can't read
>just sees deck and gets mad
The deck's compatibility info is how they caught this. They mention the deck because it's how they figured out sega was being sneaky.
Heh, us Deckers.....we're just made different. You wouldn't understand.
let people know which games can run well or are just busts.
Whatever you do don't google what Steam Deck owners actually use their device for, worst mistake of my life
Some devices are just too frickin sexy for their own good. It's a real problem.
>Why would they highlight relevant information like what system theyre using or the need for games without required online?
>Huh, must be a classic deck boast!
Just stop buying games at launch moron.
If you take "reviewers" seriously in 2023 then you deserve to get scammed.
The best and time-tested method to see if the game is good is to do the opposite of what Ganker says. The second best way is to find a youtuber who is autistic about that particular game's genre and see his nuanced opinion.
Your bot sucks
Werster says it’s bad though
Illiteracy at it's finest.
It's not a game review, but certification for release by a company. They provided a build for certification, then released a different one. The Terms of Service technically give Valve the right to remove their publisher status and prevent them from posting new games on Steam.
>They provided a build for certification, then released a different one.
You don't need certification to release updates on Steam. That's not how it works. Every SEGA game has Denuvo. Why is this news to you people?
I am sure there was nothing malicious about hiding denuvo from reviewers and the general public moronic shill.
????
Denuvo works fine via Proton, what's the issue?
kys denuvo shill
How is my post denuvo shilling I was just calling zenimax just as scummy as Sega are here
so..... will I be able to get the games cracked at release or not?
just bribe a reviewer for his build and then send it to fitgirl
>fitroony
die out you drooling moron
>t. empress bootlicker
Fitgirl doesn't crack games, you fricking troglodyte.
>denuvo-less game
>needing cracking
moron
>inb4 steam protection
Bigger moron
Go back to your mongoloid telegram cult, empress. Don't forget to visit your optometrist because nobody said that Fitgirl is a cracker.
>submit build for review
>you are then allowed to release any arbitrary build that doesn't match the reviewed build
might be worth fixing this
>b-but what about last minute changes and fixes?
should've fixed them before submitting
You guys are misunderstanding why the Deck was brought up. Games that require an online connection have to say so in their Steam Deck compatibility info. Sega shows valve the Denuvo-free build, and skips the online requirement on the Deck notice. This misleads customers into thinking it wont have Denuvo.
Deck is only being brought up because it was what made the user think the game wasn't going to have Denuvo before release.
>Refund game
>Explain in the refund reason that the game introduced an online component around the time of release thus misleading you and that you have no desire to support shitty DRM.
>Get your money back
>Eventually, Valve will get so many complaints about this same shit they'll do something about it
>???
>Profit
>Eventually, Valve will get so many complaints about this same shit they'll do something about it
This part will never happen becasue the people who care about this are a significant minority.
Horseshit. Recently valve added the ability to search by tags because a small group of morons kept typing "shooter" and "strategy" into the search windows.
I'm sorry, anon, what does that have to do with anything?
Valve has stopped games from being sold, because of backlkash for how broken the game is.
Broken, unplayable games are a far cry from games unexpectedly featuring obtrusive DRM. There's not enough people who care for the scenario described in
to ever happen.
it's fricking SONIC bro.
have you met those guys?
the things those guys are complaining about seem reasonable to me and i havent played a Sonic game since i owned a Game Gear
sheesh must be great living at the some world as your idealistic ass
You have the tools, you can use them or you can keep getting fisted. Your choice.
>Get your money back
or
>they refuse refund without explanation
People who cry about Denuvo are worse than those who bring up pirating every two seconds.
same people
Denuvo is legitimately shit because of the performance hit though. It punishes paying customers.
Works on my PC.
If you played Resident Evil Village at release on PC you'd know better.
Every time you killed an enemy or they grabbed you, there would be a shitton of slowdown and stutter, and it was because of Denuvo constantly running in the background.
Also pretty much every time a developer decides to patch out Denuvo (after they've already made most of their sales), the performance improves. It's very obvious what's going on.
You know what else would work on your PC? Malware.
The point wasn't about it working or not in the first place but, if we're on that topic, I sure would like to know why I have to pay and subject my PC to virtual machine obfuscation bullshit that denuvo does. It's not a benchmark but I am not paying to stress out my parts extra for no reason.
Pirates don't suffer from Denuvo. Only the people who pay.
bro
>let's add this thing to our game that gives their hardware more wear and tear
>ugh aren't the people complaining about anti-consumer practices worse than the corporations?
Pirated version works on my hacked Switch.
This is PC uck problems.
>Requires 3rd-Party Account: Epic Online Services (Supports Linking to Steam Account)
What did they mean by this?
>Every time you launch it, you get a prompt that making a Epic account is mandatory. Though you can get around it by clicking the X in the top left corner, it shouldn't even ask for a Epic account on Steam.
lmao
Why is that allowed? Is Valve too lazy? Or do they just let big companies get away with it?
Sega lied.
But why doesn't Valve do anything about it? It's an obvious loophole.
Email gaben about it. Call him fat so he's sure to respond.
>It installs Epic Games in order to run.
Clicking "Quit Game" opens the manual sometimes, and the only way to fix it is by restarting the game (via alt-f4 because you can't quit normally!)
>Actually quitting the game (either normally or via alt-f4) makes steam say it's "Stopping" until you end task Steam. Every time.
If you press start on the title screen at just the right time, the menu never loads, softlocking the game. I've had this happen 4 out of 12 times I've launched the game thus far.
Why is PC gaming like this?
>requiring egs to play multiplayer
Nobody is going to use your store, Timmy.
>Engine Unity
>tfw knowing we could have bankrupted sega, if unity didn't change their policy...
Feels sad man
>no one understood that if you didn't update to a new version, you'd still be under the previous TOS, because Unity hid the old TOSes
No older games would have been harmed, if they didn't update to the latest version of Unity. But no one wanted to report on that, or share the TOS that Unity hid.
sonic mania is like 3mb after denuvo is removed
nepu
ok but with this knowledge couldn't you just download the denuvo-free build before they patch it? all it takes is one autist succeeding and denuvo now becomes completely pointless
Isn't Denuvo already completely pointless due of the game being developed in Unity?
No, in this kind of example, only the pre-release build given to valve has Denuvo. Denuvo is added for the release build, which is what the consumer has access to on day one.
>Holy christ.........
I hate twitter celebrities, just make the fricking post, no one cares about your commentary dumb Black person
Street Fighter 6 did the same fricking shit, and nobody complained.
>and nobody complained
Because it only seems to affect world tour, Battle Hub and Fighting Ground don't have any major issues.
That being said, people did complain, Street Fighter as a series just normally gets waves of aggression thrown at it regardless of shit like that, so you didn't notice.
You're crazy, everyone is complaining because all of a sudden the inputs are trash when it wasn't like that in the beta. Even pros are dropping shit.
But why?
To maximize sales?
Mentioning Denuvo on your Steam page apparently kills preorders because most developers stopped disclosing that and they just update the page a few hours before the actual release date, Sega probably decided to go a step further beyond.
SEGA screwed over the Hyenas fanbase by cancelling the Hyenas 1.0 release without even allowing users to get back at those billionaire b*stards like they said they would in September and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
yeah this is a good thing for us piratebros because it means they will likely get leaked and the games will be cracked
What's with SEGA obsession with Denuvo? The game got leaked on the Switch.
>zero day patch
>already different game
>but muh favorite jorno!
sega so trash even microsoft won't buy it
Good.
Let sonic enter the open domain once the frickers are out of business.
I am going to not buy any sega produced title, I am sorry for the occasional good game like the darius collection but it is necessary.
>Let sonic enter the open domain
while this would literally never happen, I wish it would, I would bet money on a guarantee sonic autists will make better sonic games than sega.
Didn't this happen with the Etrian HD Collection, too? The initial Steam release was Denuvo-free but was patched to have it within a day.
That one was probably a genuine Atlus frickup as the store page mentioned Denuvo long before the game was out, or at the very least longer than most games do
Don't care, still buying YongYea Gaiden, it's okay when Japan does it.
>jump through hoops to do this
>everyone already played the switch version 1 week before release anyway
Sega? More like sasuga.
This is a trend now with Steam games. Street Fighter 6 and AssCreed Mirage did the same thing.