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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wtf is that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some weird boomer game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's not what it looks like

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's Fallout: New Vegas.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looks like dwarf fortress, but with graphic mods

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the pillar serving as the show piece of the Shady Sands. It tells stories to remind people of hope and peace.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      trans shelter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some 1980's computer game

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What Atari game is that?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shady Sands?
    That's used to be LA before it got nuked again, right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, LA is the Boneyard. Shady Sands was a basic tribal village until the events of Fallout 1 made it grow into the NCR.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tell that to Bethesda and the Fallout Show's writing team

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Boneyard
        What's that? There's no town called Boneyard, LA is Shady Sands
        >Fallout 1
        not canon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go away Todd, no one likes you anymore

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        r/whoosh

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My heart still beats in Arroyo. Don't deny it brother, you feel it too.
    https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a_rii4KE4pQ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jewtube
      nice try

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a proxy dipshit. Enjoy israelitetube without ads and best of luck finding your foreskin.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nuked

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let me guess you need more

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do actually. Towns in FO1 are so fricking bad, they're filled with empty space

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even boomers cant handle liminal spaces anymore
        Black personman has lost his powers, we're all doomed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Also, all the villagers have the same identical line of floating text. I always find it hilarious how this board pretends to like the first game while shitting on the second one. At least the villagers in that game say more than one line.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like both games, and I think it's okay to accept that they have "flaws" (which is really just subjective appreciation).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I do actually. Towns in FO1 are so fricking bad, they're filled with empty space

          let me guess you need more

          Fallout 1 is basically a slightly expanded tech demo. For an RPG it's shockingly short - you can 100% it, at a leisurely pace, within 12 hours.

          Most of the non-combat skills are either completely useless, or used once, maybe twice, throughout the entire game, with the exception of Speech.

          It's supposed to be a morally grey world, but literally every single best outcome is achieved by being morally good.

          The companions are a joke.

          The game had a mountain of bugs on release, including one which made it impossible to save one of the towns from the Master's Army. Without fan patches it's still half-broken.

          The game music is littered with outright plagiarized pieces.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't Junktown the one where Gizmo is the good ending and Killian kills all fun?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Almost. I could've been, but they changed it because they felt that that ending came out of left field and it felt more like a "gotcha" than actually clever.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            B-but it's supposed to be the most kino game! And 2 is reddit!
            So how am I supposed to look cool appreciating pre-Bethesda Fallout???

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Jesus Christ shut the hell up

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >game is a tech demo because I don't like things in it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            please refrain from posting any further slander of fallout 1, I will not stand for it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >need more
      I need less. Fallout in widescreen always feels weird to me because I played those games a million times on old CRT at 640x480.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is this the arc where everyone on Ganker pretends they've played FO1?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Half this site is comprised of 30-40yo. Ganker is a dadforum.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I pretend I played Tactics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I unironically love Tactics. I've played it so many times over the years. Hell, I even used to play the Multiplayer for it back on old Gamespyarcade. I probably have nearly as many hours in Tactics as I do in Fallout 2.

        I still remember trying to get my friends to play Fallout Tactics back in 8th grade and no-one would want to play it. Pretty much the only PC game I got to play with my friends back then was Starcraft 1 as they all preferred consoles than PC.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well you enjoy Fallout 2 so it's expected that you enjoy other shitty games like Tactics.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (You)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd agree but
          The game turns to shit after you basically need energy guns and burst. And all the fricking enemies are constantly bursting from 200m. It's just obnoxious at that point. Also most of the stats are useless in this game. This game would need a proper remake.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree, you really don't need Energy Weapons to beat end-game, unless you're counting stuff like the Gauss Rifle as an energy weapon because it's classified as a Small Gun. Hell, you can easily frick the robots up with the classic Sniper Rifle aimed at the Head or Eyes.
            And once you get the M2 Browning, that thing will absolutely frick everything up, especially if you save up any DU ammo you find.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What? Your wntire squad should be lying on the floor of the apc as you drive it around, so they can auto burst fire at aggressive 66% chances. Play in real time at that point and just remember to have your mechanic keep fixing the apc up.

            Your snipers can blast fools at a gorillion metres with the right shit.
            And since the apc has infinite inventory, you loot fricking EVERYTHING on every map so you can trade the quartermaster for good shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a good game, people only hated it because it retcons stuff and fricks up the lore

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They only hated it because the deathclaws had fur. Seriously--that was the number 1 complaint I remember from back in the day.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tactics is fricking awesome. It is the best fallout.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its a heavy machine gun build simulator

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao moron, fallout 1 is like, 20 hours long. its on GOG and steam, why WOULDN'T fallout fans have played it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i dont play boomer slop

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ganker is one person
      Shut up gay. I played the originals years ago before this whole shit-show started

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have and I've beaten it but I don't mind if people haven't even played it, it aged pretty badly

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's aged really well what are you talking about
        >intense combat
        >unique builds each time thanks to minmax possibilities + traits/perks
        >no bs tutorial
        >interesting villain and characters
        >sovlful, stomach twisting atmosphere
        >actual dark humor, no 'gaaary!' or something

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's probably the only genuinely great Fallout game. I've completed it multiple times and it doesn't disappoint even today.
          The trick is that the game lasts just long enough to not overstay it's welcome, something every sequel fails to accomplish. Even in NV, which I've played multiple times, I've gotten too bored to finish off the very endgame.
          F2 is guilty of it too, there's more stuff to do and more people to kill in hilarious ways, but it just doesn't captivate me long enough to even get to the oil rig bar my first playthrough.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You haven't played a lot of CRPGs if you think Fallout aged badly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played both 1 and 2 and finished neither
      Their novelty wears out fast if you don't have autism and aren't nostalgic boomer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unironically filtered

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't really care
          I only play games i find fun
          Enjoy your boomer elitism doe

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >didn't have fun playing Fallout 1 or 2
            >thinks it's anyone's fault but his own
            This is what a lack of imagination cultivated by a total aversion to reading books will do to a homosexual

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          zoomer website

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played it. I never got very far because it was cryptic as shit, I was a teen, and I didn't have internet to look for hints.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I replayed both FO1 and FO2 on my christmas vacation last year
      1 is objectively better (atmosphere, direction, pacing, the best songs in FO2 are just reused from FO1, etc.) but I still like 2 more. It's more fun to frick around and get lost and do all the side quests, there's more "world," for better or for worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >spoiler
        Brother from another mother. FO1 feels so much tighter but there's so much less game to go around.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ackctually all clear signal is the beet fo2 track

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not exactly inaccessible, unlike some genuinely old games like the original Ultima trilogy or the PC98 touhou games.
      People might screech about "UX" or whatever but the only real problem with 1&2 is the inventory being so tiny and unsorted.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did, and I played fallout 2 too. For like 10 minutes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did and it was really bad. Still better than 2 though which is objectively the worst fallout game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      jokes on you, i did. not only that, shortly after release.
      i even had an original copy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Emil

      iv pladed it gaygit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >squire
        >fo4 addition
        what is this moronic falseflag

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Squires don't exist outside of 4 and the TV show.

          It was initiate -> Knight -> Paladin -> Elder.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess they patched squire Maxson into fallout 3 recently then.
            The misnomers in this show are moronic anyway. Squires in the show are 1:1 just initiates, but they must've really wanted to hammer in the knight thing for all the morons watching.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am in my 20s and I played it to the end last year.

      >ye olde = gud
      >nu = bad
      lol

      At least it isn't woke.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        super mutants are actual trannies tho

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wake up when they force vault dwellers to say Super Mutant Rights Are Human Rights and respect their pronouns.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats season 2 with tabitha

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      uhh my village became a california raisin and I nuked an oil rig, does that count as fallout 1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm old enough to have played it in the 90s but I never did. I mainly remember seeing the cover for the game in print ads for places like Babbage's. Since they showed like 20 games on a half page of newsprint the pictures were smaller than pic related's thumbnail I couldn't tell that it was a closeup of a helmet, instead seeing the visor as a window and thinking it was some kind of space capsule.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I literally bought the game brand new from EB games at the mall in the 90's.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was pretty based. Full install from the CD no CD-key or cracks needed. One of your friends got it and everyone could play.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      played both multiple times including quality expansion mods like sonara. Finished both of them first time back in the dial up era (pre historic net). never got the fuss how can you be so moronic not to figure it out to at least finish the main plot

      I guess the arc of fallout just illustrates in general how increasingly stupid the general median is becoming as everything gets dumbed down to the biggest drooling moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm seriously glad there are some other classicbros still around. I'm not even mad about what this show did, just kinda disappointed. It would've been absolutely unbelievable to see something like The Hub in a TV show, rather than the lame ass "uhhm everythgin got nukde agan its canon duhhh" nonsense that was produced.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I always wanted to see how big and influential New Reno would’ve become after being annexed by the NCR.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I always thought that New Reno remained independent through the mafia family that you sided with. I dunno what the official explanation in FONV is. And I guess it's never going to be mentioned again either way lol.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              wrightbros ww@

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Getting shredded at Sierra

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I dunno what the official explanation in FONV is
              I think NV basically has Reno as an independent town within NCR territory.
              The Bishop child ending is canon, but according to Clayton Etienne in Westside, the city was run by the Wrights and Van Graffs when he lived there.
              Mordinos probably still exist, but in a smaller capacity.
              Salvatores are probably gone entirely and likely got their shit kicked in eventually after the Enclave had to vamoose.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What a bunch of the shitposters, and article people seem to misunderstand is that it's not that the NCR is gone, or was nuked. It's that this important event in the canon is just not shown. It's pretty clearly made for people that had no real connection to faction in the setting. The NCR's fall would have been a good storyline to see characters deal with.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Instead of being nuked offscreen by Vault Tec, the NCR collapses due to corruption, drought, famine and imperialistic overextension
            >the 5 states break off into factions ruled by feudal warlords fighting over resources and territory
            >the rangers mutiny and form their own faction back in Arizona attempting to maintain order during the chaos
            Could’ve been good if done right.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly. "Could've been good, but is fundamentally flawed" is completely how I feel.

              What a bunch of the shitposters, and article people seem to misunderstand is that it's not that the NCR is gone, or was nuked. It's that this important event in the canon is just not shown. It's pretty clearly made for people that had no real connection to faction in the setting. The NCR's fall would have been a good storyline to see characters deal with.

              I've always felt that a key theme in the first fallouts is that the old world is gone and we have to work to make something new out of it. FEV and the Enclave are two relics of the past that threaten the new world and it's up to the Vault Dweller/Chosen One to stop them to allow the new world to continue on.
              Bethesda's Fallouts feel like they want the old world to be just as relevant to the setting. I think this is mostly embodied by the Falout 4 protagonist literally being from there and being the reason anyone is helped in the game. I think that's why there's the company conference about starting the Great War in the show, and why it's a frozen Vault-tec employee who ends the NCR. To Bethesda, pre-war is just as, or more, important as the post-war setting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >To Bethesda, pre-war is just as, or more, important as the post-war setting.

                It's more important since you can't advance the post-war.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. It's a reason why I enjoy small touches like

                You will acknowledge that Shady Sands was originally Indian and bronze age inspired. Something which disappeared in every later game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with this interpretation. The post-post apocalyptic setting was always far more interesting. The Old World is just that, the Old World. What came before. I always liked how its destruction carried on so much evil that it still kept showing up to haunt the survivors, going from FEV to the Enclave to even places such as the Sierra Madre. In FO1 you have to fight a visionary who wants to control the future, whereas FO2 stacks you against the remnants of the past. The conflict in NV is more about how humanity has more or less mastered the post-nuclear setting of 1, imposed itself over the ghosts of 2, and are now struggling to find a path forward. And Lonesome Road joins those two, with the evils of the past (the nukes, as Ulysses calls them, "spears from the Old Word) and the prospects of the future. I never got that kind of thematic cohesion from 3 and 4, they don't feel like part of that conversation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In 3, I think it's a bit of limbo. You work against the enclave to safeguard something to allow the new world to flourish, the water purifier. But even there the world design very much wants a reliance on the old world. Nothing new is made, it's all repurposed stuff to make everything, they're reliant on old food markets and things.
                I think that's what Bethesda wants to be a driving theme for their Fallouts. People may want to move forward, but they'll always have to rely on the past. Fallout 4's problems can't be solved without someone from the old world. 76 is people directly from the old world coming to "save" and shape the new one. Vault-Tec is poised to be nearly 100% responsible for the creation of the new world.
                It kind of just ends up feeling less freeing to me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I see where you're going with it. The world feels trapped in a snowglove. That old debate of 200 years that feel like 20. The setting in 3 does seem to be trying to remind us of 1, but it's lacking that bite. On a design level, the constant reuse of past concepts makes it even harder to see it as a part of the progression the other two games, plus NV, get to. Fallout 3 feels more like a fantasy land, and yes, having the past become the savior in 4 feels so tightening and condescending. In Fallout 1 it made sense to have a fish out of water as a MC, whereas in 2 you have a child of the new world fighting against the ghosts of the past. NVs gives you a citizen of the new world who has to decide on its future, it's much more autonomous. 3 retreads the fish out of water angle, and 4 has the past come to fix the present. I'm not a fan of those stories.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People may want to move forward, but they'll always have to rely on the past
                This is genuinely a bone I have to pick with specifically the Bethesda Fallouts. I understand that they love the aesthetic and the idea that the world is just a forever just post apocalyptic area, but people simply don't work like that.
                Even if they have to rely initially on the old world tech, that doesn't mean scientists just stop existing - those who are curious about fixing a problem or making something more efficient will always exist. 200 years is plenty of time for people to start from tribes up to something resembling at least home industries, irrigation, steam power. Where FO1, 2, and NV capture that and show that there are bad things that people are recreating in the shape of the old world, but that people are still pushing forward when it comes to rebuilding civilisation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, any kind of seriousness in fallout would restore worldwide communication by radio very fast as soon as the world is at all liveable which would ruin the american parochialism

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I always assumed it would be a metro exodus situation where communication with the wider world would be the central plot of the Game.
                Something ,somewhere, somehow is casting a global net.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm surprised they didn't hint at it in side quests or something, just having one guy keep a log of foreign language radio chatter in a terminal or something would ignite people's imagination at zero cost
                But bethesda is genuinely hostile to creativity

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In all fairness, opening up the outside world can of worms would be an exceptionally difficult task to pull off for anyone Let alone the guys that couldn't even do empty space.
                Although a big world map game with a car where you have to work with a foreigner over radio to accomplish a goal, would be cool, Death Stranding meets Fallout except you're a radio operator.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would have been interesting considering the world was at war. We know that there were Chinese spies, I wouldn't be surprised if there were holdouts that still stayed loyal even after the great war and everything got nuked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That could work, he'll it could even be a satellite that is no longer in control, and a an apt metaphor for the effect communist spies had on America, I don't care about wish wash Bezmenov was right.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >. I think this is mostly embodied by the Falout 4 protagonist literally being from there and being the reason anyone is helped in the game.
                The funny enough if, even though they were suppose to be dead, added the enclave as a playable faction to 4 with the fact that the player character actually came from the old world could of represented a player character that could not move on from the past and thus became a horrible monster just to go back to the life and world they once had, and maybe even getting criticized for it with a "you just need to let go"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they are falling into a trap that most sci-fi franchises do where the meaning of events is gradually reduced for the aid of writers.
                see halo where the most important act of the games (master chief activates halo to destroy the ark and the flood and is never found by humanity again) is gradually stripped of meaning and outright retconned totally
                fallout will be the same thing. there will be a billion asspull characters that all got into powered cryo pods for 200 years. nothing will be permanent or mean anything because the writers' churn bukakke means layer upon layer of retcon and asspull

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty accurate. Modern writers will pick and scavenge through the plot points of the old franchises like vultures, discarding anything that wouldn't fit into their narrow minded plans for the future of the franchise, or prove to be too complicated to build on because they're talentless hacks.
                It doesn't really help things though when you have people like Tim Cain try to legitimize the new writing, even though the Cain of 25 years ago would have thrown these clowns out on their heads for failing to make a coherent setting.
                I love the Halo debacle though, the writers for that show couldn't even emulate the very simplistic writing for a game series where you're a green dirt biker shooting aliens, and their actual writing is far more embarrassing than Jason Jones' work could ever try to be. And that's considering that the political schism stuff in 2 was actually really well done.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. "Could've been good, but is fundamentally flawed" is completely how I feel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did

      The quality skyrockets after you get your first companion/level enough to stop missing and then becomes trivial after you get power armor

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is this the arc where everyone on Ganker pretends they've played FO1?

        Oh yeah, and the soundtrack/atmosphere is probably one of the best in all of gaming. I've never played anything like it, even within its own franchise (including 2).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Beautiful.

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        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fallout 1 felt like a demo compared to Fallout 2 but I played the second game first so that's probably why. Everything in F1 felt like a downgrade to me except for the final boss.

          Fewer companions that couldn't level
          Can't push people that block doors
          Fewer towns
          Fewer jokes
          Fewer guns
          Barebones dialogue in general (ex. villagers all say a single floating line)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's definitely a lot more barren than 2 and NV, but I feel that adds to the atmosphere.

            Things in 1 are way less civilized and humanity has gotten their shit together yet. Once you get to 2 and beyond things are a lot more stable so there's more content as humanity develops. I like where they took the setting, but I also really love the bleakness and uncertainty 1 gives off.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I will say that the main story itself is superior in the first game. However, a lot of the optional quests feel really simplistic at least IMO. The villagers don't have much to say at all which is really my only complaint with the game. I still really love the first game, though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The story in 1 is a lot tighter, its plotbeats are stronger and the momentum carries on much more succinctly. Also, the Master and the supermutants are incredibly memorable and interesting antagonists. The Enclave are kind of hollow in comparison, they are driven by spite whereas the Master was by desperation and hope. I think that makes a better villain. Also, the tone in 1 is a lot more consistent, which is subjective but I prefer it. 2 does really expand and as an RPG is the better game, there's so much to do in it, but the atmosphere of 1 is just so perfect and everything in it works beautifully.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I agree with everything you posted. I guess I prefer Fallout 2 because as a kid, it really felt like a world I could immerse myself into. I could easily get lost in it doing random side quests. And unlike a lot of people on Ganker, I actually enjoy the combat even the long battles such as taking on a gang in New Reno. I still feel that way to some extent even though I've probably beaten it over a dozen times by now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a zoomer but I really liked the combat in Fallout. I liked how tense it was. But yeah, you can absolutely lose yourself in Fallout 2's world. It's so expansive that the lighter tone is warranted, it's allowed. 1's story and tighter pacing does allow for a much more somber experience, but 2 wants you to have an adventure and explore, and if it were kept as grim as 1 it wouldn't be as unique.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            jokes
            but thats a good thing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but I was late to the party and first played it in 2001.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bro, ten years ago you would be right but there are millenials with +25y lurking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played it and beat it. I didn't play it back when it was new (t. console kiddy) but I pretty much gave up playing anything made after 2012.
      I gotta say how out of touch I am when I say this, but:
      How the frick do you play it properly? Do you have to create a specific build? I ended up having to look up a guide, find the random spaceship event to get the alien blaster to actually shoot shit. Otherwise, I run into a super mutant battle and it's over. I'd like to explore the game trying different things, but it seemingly only has one way to play.
      Again, it's been forever, but how did you know to gather info to make the master know about super mutant genitals? Was this simply because back then you didn't have endless entertainment at your disposal so you could focus on one game for 100+ hours and trial-and-error the whole time????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, when it's your only game you kind of had to force yourself to like it. The combat really is objectively terrible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're supposed to make a character with 10 AGI, you're not supposed to run into supermutants until you can deal with them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Energy weapons are a mid-to-late game weapon type in FO1. You either bumrush to get it early or you get made into a raider's b***h. To do it properly I had to level small arms first, then branch out to energy once I actually got one to use.

        >Again, it's been forever, but how did you know to gather info to make the master know about super mutant genitals
        You read Vree's autopsy report at the BoS. Why would you go there? This is because they had the S-tier "make you nearly invulnerable to everything but energy crits" power armor that also enhanced your strength, of course. Since you learn early (if you actually read shit) that BoS has the best equipment, most players would make that one of their early in-game destinations for that purpose.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How the frick do you play it properly?
        The first game is mostly on rails, Small guns for the early game, and then you will either go into heavy weapons or energy weapons.
        The skill cap is pretty low in the first fallout as well. Putting more into 100 into any skill is pointless in the first game (there are a few high skill checks in 2), unless it is a combat skill.
        Agility is your most important stat since it determines how many action points you have per round of combat (more action points means more times you can shoot, or reload, or move in a single turn, any action points not used at the end of the turn are converted into your armor class). Intelligence determines how many points you get per level to put into your skills.
        Luck determines crits.
        You don't need as much strength as you think you do, and you have ways to permanently and temporarily boost it.
        Charisma is a dump stat, you can set it to 1 with no problem (in 2 it determines your party size, and is part of a stat check if you want to be a porn star).
        Endurance give you more HP every time you level up.
        Never give a companion a weapon with automatic or burst fire. Never.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Never give a companion a weapon with automatic or burst fire. Never.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong. Always give your squad automatic weapons and lay down prone so you always miss each other in the apc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just picked the Max Stone preset and played it like you play any other video game. Needing 10 agility on every character is a meme, getting two attacks per turn makes the game way too easy. Max Stone is seriously a shit preset with actively detrimental traits but I still made the game my b***h on the hardest combat difficulty, it's honestly not a hard game as long as you explore and pick your battles. You must have been doing something very wrong if you were running into super mutants before you even had the stats to shoot shit consistently. The only time I ever got stuck was when I couldn't figure out how to get down the elevator in Vault 15.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Again, it's been forever, but how did you know to gather info to make the master know about super mutant genitals?
        I didn't, I just shot the Master until he died. Making him kill himself is incredibly anticlimactic and genuinely dogshit writing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It isnt it would be if you make it against Frank horrigan

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I get the Master isn't exactly a thrilling boss fight but skipping the fight entirely with a "have a nice day now" speech check is incredibly lame and unfulfilling. At the very least it's better than not even talking to the Master and just blowing the place up with a stealth build, but not by much.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course everyone here has played it lol, it's a popular game and it's pretty short.
      "waaah old game difficult and obtuse" shit is a moronic meme. I watched a fricking female streamer with less than a year of gaming experience play and beat it easily without any backseating. Anyone can beat FO1

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout 1 is seriously one of the most accessable 90s games for zoomers, I was born in 2000 and I got into Fallout with 3 and I started Fallout 1 expecting to quit after 20 minutes but it sucked me in and now it's my favourite of the series. 2 on the other hand was an actual slog to try and get through.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its beatable within a good 20 hours, its not a big game anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i played it but i dont remember much so it would be about the same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FO1 is the only one I ever played

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It needs a remake badly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just don't get why anyone pretends like oldgays don't still exist. It's not like they're all dead.
      So shocking that they both still exist and like to speak about the experiences they remember.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I met Aradesh and got mad because he was indian

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw i just realized hes an Indian and not a gypsy mutt
        Well i guess Indians werent here back then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Do not red*ACK* *nukes shady sands*

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I booted it up once.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played it to completion, a bit rough around the edges but still fun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm never playing that garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am honestly shocked that it's now mainstream for a nerdy as frick board like Ganker to have someone who actually assumes no one played one of the greatest isometric RPGs of all time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >merely pretending

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Call me crazy but I don't think it's that unlikely that people posting in Fallout threads might have played Fallout.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What mods tho, OP?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout Et Tu

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just happy to be talking about Fallout again, bros.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did it unironically look like this in the show
      and they nuked it
      ffs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why it's surrounded by huge pre-war buildings ruins in the background. In fallout 1 it was a settlement in the middle of nowhere. Literally empty desert.
      Why bother recreating stuff like this obelisk if everything else is inconsistent

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because they moved it to LA (Boneyard), that simple. Current capital of Cali is LA, therefore the capital of the NCR should also be in the ruins of LA.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But the capital of Cali is Sacramento...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Next you'll pretend the capital of New York is Albany and the capital of Michigan is Lansing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why it's surrounded by huge pre-war buildings ruins in the background. In fallout 1 it was a settlement in the middle of nowhere. Literally empty desert.
        >Why bother recreating stuff like this obelisk if everything else is inconsistent
        Because empty space = bad. Obviously.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should have added a line of pachislot machines to that hallway. My neurons aren't being stimulated enough.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >castle is actually lived in, in a country that was just recently attacked by demons
          >remaster adds plants, makes all the stone crumbling from age, turns the floor into overgrown rubble
          Holy shit did they get the guy who made HL2's cinematic mod to do this?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HIRE FANS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the look of the bottom, but it was absolutely made by someone who knew nothing of the original. That's the problem with a lot of remakes. People who can reference imagery that gives a similar feel, but who have no experience with that on which it's based. Imagine trying to remake an entire game or movie with just snapshots of the original, it's impossible.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it operates on the Bethesda school of logic. Where people are still jerking off in abandon buildings that are 200 years old. They still eat bean cans and TV dinners from 200 years ago. Somehow people are still using bottle caps despite there being a limited amount of Nuka Cola drinks. I guess maybe someone is just printing bottle caps like it's nothing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's Bethesda so everyone is living in ruined buildings on the verge of collapse, sleeping in rooms with 200 year old skeletons in them (in funny poses when they died)
        How else will the moronic audience know it's post-apocalypse?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why it's surrounded
        ESL spotted
        Why is it surrounded*

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your an homosexual

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WHY WHY WHY
        omg just shut up chud and enjoy the product

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least it was before Todd fricked everything up.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s all gone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know we joke about that text a lot, but that quote goes hard fr fr ngl

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        By FO2 she was already a mummy anyways.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >big homosexual claims another victim

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That doesn't look like Shady Sands, where are the pre-war buildings bro?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least it was, until Todd fricked errythang up.

    Seriously, the more I'm hearing about this Fallout show, the more I'm thinking it's Todd deliberately shitting on the old West Coast lore.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >indian settlement

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shady Sands shifted locations between Fallout 1 and 2 so I guess it's not so bad that the TV show did it too, right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did it?
      or are you making shit up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it did. it moved west so they could fit it in fo2’s map

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so literally just a minor convenience issue

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure did

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >moved from patch of desert to patch of desert
      vs
      >moved from patch of desert to a pre war city

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, the second game map just remove boneyard and any settlement that arent in upper north

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    troony sands!
    troony!!!!!!!

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, that looks awful
    >Houses too far apart
    >completely empty streets
    >Architecture aping several ancient desert civilizations with little to no ties to north America.
    >Obelisk just because
    >Amazing garbage disposal system to keep the immaculate dirt streets garbage free
    >Windows can't be closed
    So little to see here but I already know the world building sucks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Architecture aping several ancient desert civilizations with little to no ties to north America.
      >yea why didn't they just leverage that thriving post-nuclear apocalypse lumber industry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >with little to no ties to north America

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you blind, they look nothing like OPs pic. It's probably inspired by north African and Greek architecture just like the random obelisk.

        Also where are the 20 metres wide dirt roads in any of the ruins. Looks like a pathetic attempt by the developers to make the town look bigger than it is.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ncr bros...
    it's quite literally over for us...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not over…the war is not lost…

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would anyone even /want/ the TV show to be canon? It's wiped clean locations like Junktown, the Hub, Vault City, The Kahns, Arroyo, Boneyard, etc. and replaced it with a very generic version of FO. I don't see what benefit that has. It's more like a very clumsy net negative over all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's canon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At best I can accept it as semi-canon, like Tactics. NCR falling could be an interesting idea, but nothing else shown is very valuable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i got your canon right here

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          crusty

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not proud to admit I know the source of that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The comic that awoke my vore fetish

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Todd noOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To give room for a Fallout 5 West Coast edition

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fallout 5
        Yeah... In another 10+ years, that might be a game that exists.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah west coast is the show's domain now
        games will only be east coast

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        F5 will be in new york

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bethesda are far too lazy to even attempt NYC, they'll probably do Miami or Philly, if they don't go out Texas direction.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Enclave guy in the TV show actually escaped from New York. The huge complex he worked at is Brooklyn Army Terminal.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              umm. how did he get to the other side of the continet?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                walked

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ESVI will be the next and last game made before Bethesda is dissolved. F5 will never come out, thank God

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >IP will be left to rot in Microsofts vault
          A shame, but sometimes dead is better I suppose.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I actually am glad that FO is in a deep sleep. The show has just made me sad.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      normalgays dont give a shit about Fallout and they like making nerds angry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think normal people have intelligence and empathy, but they just don't choose to peruse it unfortunately.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The wolf you feed etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        normalgays don't care about making nerds angry
        nerds who aspire to be normies might

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fallout 1, 2, New Vegas are fanfiction and any true fan will skip them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not fan fiction but the first two games aren't fun to play. You're better off reading a synopsis of a story than playing those clunky ass piles of trash. NV is good though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong. Betheshit homosexual. The IP only contains fallout 1, 2, tactics and BoS.
      Everything else is hatefiction.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tactics and BoS
        NMAbro, I..

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bethesda literally lifted all the shit tactics had and slapped in their East coast brotherhood

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lucky 38 penthouse, home.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ye olde = gud
    >nu = bad
    lol

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >please fricking help me sir

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will acknowledge that Shady Sands was originally Indian and bronze age inspired. Something which disappeared in every later game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it's literally turning back the clock entirely, going back to the primitive after the world. It makes the Glow or Mariposa seem all the more alien and strange.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The tribal concepts are some of my favourite things from 1-NV

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I used to be indifferent to them but they grew on me. They're a little bit zany but they kind of make sense.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a series where Brotherhood of Steel call themselves "knights" just because they wear metal suits. Yeah, it's zany, but it's okay. Tribals are a thing that exists to varying degrees.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man, I like the idea of several factions but the Gunners were a missed opportunity. I wish they had more stuff to distinguish them from each other, whether in culture or backstory, rather than a different name for the NPCs you have to shoot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a shame the Vipers kept getting missed out in each game. Their lore was really interesting.
        I think it’s one of the reasons why the East Coast is so boring as a setting. There’s no tribal identity whatsoever.
        https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vipers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          closest I can even recall is Gunners from F4. Even then they are cardboards but remember ending up thinking how cool would be if this shit takes place 20 years post war and gunners are former rogue national guard units turned more organized enslaver-raider clan

          there is even a bigger derelict national guard base in the area

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mercenaries for fire
            >instantly hostile and shoot on sight
            It’s so fricking moronic. They’re just organised raider gang like Talon Company. The thing is they had a lot of distinguishing features that made them stand out. They’re highly organised and tattoo their blood type to their heads so other gunners know which blood to use. In an ideal world they would be the 5th faction, especially if they went with the national guard idea which would appeal to the Sole Survivor who was ex military.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But something happened then the Bullet did not intend. It was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable. A Prospector

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lel

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed.

          The NCR was a nation spanning over a sizable chunk of the US. It was not Shady Sands anymore than Washington is the entire US. The show is non-canon

          Agreed.

          Yeah, I agree with everything you posted. I guess I prefer Fallout 2 because as a kid, it really felt like a world I could immerse myself into. I could easily get lost in it doing random side quests. And unlike a lot of people on Ganker, I actually enjoy the combat even the long battles such as taking on a gang in New Reno. I still feel that way to some extent even though I've probably beaten it over a dozen times by now.

          I love 2 and think the additions it added is underrated. But 1 is pure soul and really codified like 90% of the series.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We're with the Vipers
          Loved killing those guys

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so the canon nu vegas ending is NCR wins then gets nuked by hank and gets taken over by mr house again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shady Sands got nuked before New Vegas. The library records stopping at 2277 is conclusive it was nuked right after the ‘fall’ of Shady Sands.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your capital gets nuked
        >then 4 years later you're so expanded that your fighting a war in another state
        >then 15 years later your HQ is just the LA observatory
        fricking wot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ncr chuds got btfo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hank didn't nuke it alone
      valt-tec are working with the enclave

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else think that adding "war never changes" into every game is stupidly blunt and obnoxious? It was a cool little thing to say during the intro of FO1, but we're now at the point where people are insisting that the series has to be nihilistic crap where nothing changes just because these words appear.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go back

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"war never changes"
      >this means nothing changes and the story is nihilistic
      You misunderstand gravely

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least Lonesome Road tried to stop it with its ending.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ABSOLUTE LEGION VICTORY.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      -ACK!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pick an ending?
        >just make it all pointless!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They didn’t even have to pick an ending they set it BEFORE New Vegas

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is it all pointless in the context of the game?
          You're always building up to the big battle breaking loose, and who wins is based on who you support.
          Unless you're just complaining about there not being an endgame with isn't a problem for me since the game has multiple red flags around the points of no return (you can play all sides until you have to assassinate the NCR guy), and then again before the battle itself.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You'll never get to experience being religiously persecuted and executed by Russian death squads in Fallout Online for the first time ever again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fonline was the shit back when the servers had consistent ~ 150 playercounts

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What did they eat?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fish?
      Are you Irish or something?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pussy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesnt know about the algae farms
      ngmi chud

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      radsharks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically those offshore rigs create artificial biomes, in the water around them. Like tiny artificial islands.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hydroponically grown vegetables and fish?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hydroponic fish
        It's wrong but if you squint it's right

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The fish poo provides the nutrients for the plants

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah I didn't think of that, I should work at Bethesda

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this point the american shadow government evolved to literally consume oil.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what are all those leftist YouTubers that practically worship NV doing now? I assume more corporate bootlicking where they're suddenly glad that the west coast is going back to rad scorpions, super mutants, BoS and eating 200 year old cereal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably. I'm guessing youtubers are gonna defend it super hard, so they can stay in Bethesda's good books (you already saw how badly Starfield was astroturfed). I'm already seeing tons of deflection about "you're just a new vegas elitist", "you just think everything is woke", "it doesn't actually ruin the canon", etc. When I'm just really a guy that likes 1 and 2 and didn't enjoy seeing the original setting get bulldozed so badly.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nook eet

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Todd's IP, Todd's rules

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, its todds ip, he can do whatever he want
      However, I'm the costumer, so it might benefit him to not shit on it. Otherwise my wallet remain shut
      Every time you shit on the IP, less people remain

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Every time you shit on the IP, less people remain
        are you actually delusional? Playercount for every single fallout game on steam is up. Bethseda got exactly what they wanted, more normies.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can only attract normies if you remain hip and cool. Autist people stick with you forever if treated right, normies will chase the next shiny thing the moment it appears

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's unfortunate fact of life that vidya so much more accessible nowadays, so you can just cater to morons to make bank. Same with Ganker. In the late 2000s there were far fewer people with internet in the world, not to mention that smart phones were only making their way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Silence brand. I make my own canon, and I will disregard thing that I don't like.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Total Todd Lashing

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me? It's the music.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The NCR was a nation spanning over a sizable chunk of the US. It was not Shady Sands anymore than Washington is the entire US. The show is non-canon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      case in point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone needs to update this showing the entire map as Brotherhood of Steel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The NCR was a nation spanning over a sizable chunk of the US. It was not Shady Sands anymore than Washington is the entire US. The show is non-canon

        While true, It was always shown to not exactly be the strongest knit of a nation. Having the capital explode with everyone's representatives in it would certainly be a thing to spark the various states to withdraw from it and go back to how they used to be.
        It would certainly could have been an interesting story to have been able to experience, but we're not allowed to have that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Having the capital explode because of a deus ex nuke is fricking lazy. If it collapsed because of the problems identified in New Vegas it would’ve been plausible.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I forgot how quickly Caesar's Legion managed to expand. Kind of like Islamic Arabia, it grabbed a bunch of tribes and turned them into a conquering onslaught.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its not that surprising, that area wasn't exactly packed with people in the first place.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Caesars philosophy makes the legion nuclear resistant, like wienerroaches. They don't rely on tech, they will go to war with spears.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Caesars philosophy makes the legion nuclear resistant, like wienerroaches. They don't rely on tech, they will go to war with spears.

          It's a shame that Caesar and his faction are simply looked at as 'chud' options by so many people. The guy doesn't get enough credit for taking the mosh pit of mutually warring and raiding tribes thriving in the post-apocalypse and turning them into something vaguely resembling a nation-state. He even states his ultimate intention is to have them further evolve in the post conquest of taking the Dam, as the fusion of states and cultures would complete the ascension of the Legion into something more than tribalists.
          Some look at all of that and then wonder why the Legion is a patriarchal war based 'nation' fueled by slave raids and conquest, when it could be so much worse given the state Caesar found them in. One man can only do so much in a lifetime, but he at least gave them strict organization and laws, as well as creating civilized safe havens within the interior of the Legion territory.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are interesting for several reasons, but I think the best is how they are an engineered nomadic empire. There's been plenty of examples of such peoples through history (although those tended to have horses), but they were constrained to a time and place. It never happened that their leader was, rather than one of them, the exiled member of a much more culturally and technologically advanced civilization. Caesar reminds me a little of Coronel Kurtz, from Apocalypse Now, except that unlike Kurtz he actually had a plan and a project. It is honestly fascinating because the construction of an army through unification of a loose collection of tribes has a precedent, but their culture being a reference/made-up by a third party is something far more different. It's all Caesar's macro experiment in nation building. He is a megalomaniac, but you cannot build a nation and a culture unless you are one.
            The NCR, in contrast, is a bureaucracy of loose interests whose creation is owed for a great man from the past (The Vault Dweller), whereas the Legion is Great Man Theory in practice. Also, people tend to judge them on the grounds of contemporary western ethics, instead of taking into account the morals that would develop in a post-apocalyptic environment. In such a harsh environment strenght would obviously trump justice, for example, and personal liberty is a relatively new concept as we understand it today.
            Caesar's Legion is alien to us but it fits in its setting. I really wish they had had more time to expand on it because it truly is fascinating.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I love Caesar and the whole tribal storyline. I'm not sure how you would even make an antagonist as good as that if they ever made a forth game. The progression of Master -> Enclave -> Caesar is very nice.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, and when you think about it Caesar is the less "dangerous" of the three of them, since the first two were advocating for genocide whereas Caesar was just a conqueror. He really feels like a man of history rather than a sci-fi monster, which is great and helps to show how even in Fallout the wasteland has been tamed and conventional war is back as the driving force of history. Honestly, the only good way to top Caesar would be to create an equally thematically appropriate antagonist, and that would depend on where they'd take the series. And frankly, Fallout NV's conclusion is pretty much perfect.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tend to judge them on the grounds of contemporary western ethics
              I agree with all you said, but this in particular has to be emphasized. Far too often fans fail to contextualize what it really means to be a faction that exists in a world bombed back into the stone age. The people born into such a world are lucky if they even understand any of the history that predates the fall of the bombs. It is one thing for them to see the ruins of pre-war society, another thing entirely to know anything of their ethos and beliefs. At the end of the day, most of the surviving tribes only know to eat, frick, and kill. They don't have anything approaching a humanist or egalitarian world view.
              >It's all Caesar's macro experiment in nation building. He is a megalomaniac
              It is kinda funny that he basically brainwashes a bunch of swarthy tribals into a functioning mimicry of an age old classical empire. The sheer confidence and ability as a leader to pull that off as a foreigner says a lot about him, however flawed he may be in other ways.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >At the end of the day, most of the surviving tribes only know to eat, frick, and kill. They don't have anything approaching a humanist or egalitarian world view.
                There are echoes of the past, like the ghosts of morals and virtues whispering to the present, but if already in our own civilized societies we are hard pressed to follow them through, imagine what it would be in such a broken world.
                Now, this is getting into the metanarrative a little, but the NCR is lucky to have had not one but two great heroes who weren't leaders but still saved their asses. Caesar's territory didn't have that, and I am almost certain that in a realistic scenario something like the Legion would be a far more likely outcome for humanity than the NCR, which is more like a fortuitous miracle.
                Arcade might complain about "fighting old wars" and that we should "look forward", but we can't when we blew up the future and inverse the progression of history. It's a really interesting scenario because ideas go hand in hand with technological progress, but after a cataclysm the ideas prevail somewhat while the material world is destroyed. So there's only a dilemma because we still can remember the Old World a little, mostly because of the Vaults. The NCR is a continuation of American Liberal ethics, whereas Caesar constructed (or reconstructed) and ethical and political model adapted to the post-apocalypse.
                >The sheer confidence and ability as a leader to pull that off as a foreigner says a lot about him, however flawed he may be in other ways.
                He was intelligent and charismatic, as well as brutal. Those are the qualities of great men such as Napoleon, Caesar (heh) and Alexander. I think that's one of the reasons NV is my favorite, the conflict feels both very human but also epic, in the traditional sense. It's men fighting each other, rather than monsters.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the Legion would be a far more likely outcome for humanity than the NCR, which is more like a fortuitous miracle
                Perfectly said, as that has always been my perspective as well. All the times that fans take it for granted that they can just side with the NCR against the Legion, I think to myself that the wasteland should be considered as being lucky to even have the NCR as an alternative option. While it is admittedly imperfect, it really is a miracle in the world of Fallout when the whole region would otherwise be more likely to be ruled by some form of tribal coalition.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One could claim that the NCR is a giant gang that collects protection money too. I mean, there are no "states" in the traditional sense anymore. The NCR emulates America because they came from sedentary settlements that were initiated by Vault Dwellers. That kind of living promotes cooperation rather than conquest, but they were still conquerors and expansionists. Vault City used slavery too, but they got annexed forcefully by the NCR, same as Reno. The NCR does have checks and balances (in theory), but it's only thanks to the background of its first inhabitants as former American citizens with a contemporary set of ethics and understanding of the law.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That kind of living promotes cooperation rather than conquest, but they were still conquerors and expansionists
                Indeed, as no faction expands through simply offering kind words. The territory shown in this map could only come about through the same drive conquer that has driven just about any organized group of human beings.
                >One could claim that the NCR is a giant gang that collects protection money too
                Lel, some would say that would be the single most common factor of any nation or organized group aspiring to be a nation. I am sure no one under the rule of the NCR easily escapes from paying their dues. But I am going to have to give New Vegas another playthrough sometime soon at this rate, all of this discussion has me wanting to. Thank goodness Obsidian got the chance to make New Vegas, it really is the most thought provoking of the recent Fallout games.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All governments are mafias you pay for protection. Some offer fairer treatment for missing payment than others.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just pay your taxes, thats all the government asks of you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just pay your taxes, offer your young sons for wars of our making, and serve your leaders in the name of patriotism
                lets be honest, they ask a bit more of you than just 'pay your taxes'.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >people tend to judge them on the grounds of contemporary western ethics
              probably because every fallout game has the same attitudes toward theft, murder, rape and slavery.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They were condemned by some and reviled by others. Just like in real life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The achievement is technically impressive and the concept is sound, but it's also building a robot that screams and the builder calmly explains that he's going to die tomorrow and hopefully it'll stop screaming eventually.

            Yeah, thanks for the giant collection of homogenized hockey players and homogenized hockey player leader who knows who the frick Hegel is even less than Ceasar did.

            The Legion to me looks more like the lombards, franks, visigoths and ostrogothic apings of the western roman empire well after it fell. Everyone was so impressed with the concept they'd cargo-cult having funny roman titles and trappings to emulate it forever while still basically just being the same barbars. I seriously fricking doubt this unified set of psychopaths are going to let go of the "be totalitarian hyper barbarians" until something stops them enough to give Christianity a try or lose the plot, so the end result is impressive, but it also means it's just going to keep fricking happening rather than Ceasar's imagined development.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nuke ncr
        >dozens of advanced cities still exist

        >nuke legion
        >thousands of angry tribals with guns still exist

        Bear-and-Bull-Man didn't think this out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He didn't want to nuke their capitals, but their main routes to the Mojave. NCR had three different paths to Vegas; I-15 (which you can nuke), the Divide (no longer an option), the Big Empty (no way) or Death Valley. I don't remember how it affected Caesar's, but similarly. "Cut off its throat", rather than pierce the heart, if I remember clearly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bear and bull man wanted to nuke the road connecting ncr to new vegas and his tribe village

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish Mexico played more into Fallout. One of my favorite element of westerns is how two two nations clash.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always wondered why they put Arroyo in the NCR, when that was never actually said anywhere.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think the fallout bible listed it. which is canon or not canon or who knows (tactics is canon according to mr emil)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fallout Bible is "not canon", but it was created by a lead writer to explain and guide aspects of the setting.

            As for Tactics and the show... just why does anyone want them to be canon anyway?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do people really pretend to not understand that the games are microcosms of a grander world?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does the Shi still exist? Is the NCR afraid they're gonna pull a nuke out of their submarine or something

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're Swhitzerland and Big Ranch needed -somewhere- to offshore their money since someone blew up the actually offshore oil rig.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a lot of shit going on in the region but oh well suck it fans. I love the hoi4 mod for it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even the map you replied to had a lot of headcanon, but this is basically just fanfiction.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spoil the show for me. They nuked New Vegas? What?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shady Sands "fell" in 2077, also it exploded.
      It got exploded because the leader of a vault couldn't get his wife to leave town and come back with him. This is the MC's dad.
      So the NCR is, seemingly, gone. The residents of Shady Sands basically just became raiders. This happens four years before New Vegas.
      Vault-Tec was also, seemingly, responsible for starting the Great War, attempting to convince other companies to help to make a profit (somehow) but there goal seems to have been that they could make a new world after the war in their image. Largely the same deal as the Enclave.

      Also the show either moved Shady Sands to being very near LA, or it just didn't bother showing the characters walking for several weeks to get there. Also Shady Sands has high rise towers from the old world, even though it was built from the ground up in the desert using a GECK.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm having fun with fallout new vegas, should I try out fallout 3 after?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you enjoy about NV? If it's the story, characters, writing, lore, choices, evolving narrative, or anything that's not muh explorashun, then you're not getting any of that from 3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The quests are funny and I like exploding people with my melee weapons.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah you'll probably get some enjoyment out of 3 then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, it's far from perfect but it's still good and worth at least one playthrough. Heads up though the PC port is busted and you may have to download Tales of Two Wastelands to play 3 on PC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a NVgay but 3 is still fun. Exploring it is still entertaining.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get Tale of Two Wastelands

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At lest it was untill I fricked things up

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Considering how it seems they didn't really try, does it even matter?
      Tomb raider? Spirits Within(wowsers)? Ultrasmurfs? Every Uwe Boll movie?
      These kinds of things never mattered, they were popcorn shitflicks.
      Idk man between everything I feel fine, this is hardly new, and we've seen worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gta San andreas ring a bell
        Groove street.... home...

        ?si=xiwm_h4gkDr6flVO

        My quote was not no point sadly

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I insist that you all read the original Fallout 1 story outline. It's highly interesting and has details that aren't in the final game.

    https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Vault_13:_A_GURPS_Post-Nuclear_Adventure_timeline

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't read much yet but that fuel crisis part is exactly what I liked about Mad Max.
      I remember watching it as a kid and thinking "wtf where's duh apocalypse?", over time though that just made sense.
      You ever see a ghost town? Thats what Mad Max 1 looks like and that's what a slow decline would look like.
      Even if it was budgetary constraints that lead to it's visuals, it still shows the nuance I want in a post apocalypse.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that I think about it, would the Chosen One be alive?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In New Vegas he would have been around 60 so probably. He was taught enough to keep adventuring for a long time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. He was nuked. (It's canon okay?)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there even a whiff of a hint here?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          only the wrecked highwayman nearby
          this might be a misplaced memory but i remember the jsawyer mod putting the vault 13 gear in it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the wrecked Highwayman and That Gun are found near Noonan and he rambles about meeting a talking rat, which was in Fallout 2. He could just be nobody but maybe he's the Chosen One. I could also see him saying his name is No-one as opposite of One and the people in Novac going with his name being Noonan. (Ffs the town's name comes from a No Vacancy sign they're not very creative)

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No bark
              Novac
              It's it's like poetry, so that they rhyme

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean up to into the TV show?
      They'd be 71-90 years old by the time of the show.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Going by his mobster son he was a man.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KIYES

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They nuked shady sands after the war, but right before the newvegas game? What the frick? Its NCRs capital, wouldnt everyone in New Vegas be mentioning it during the game?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a few explainations:
      >Shady Sands "fall" and the bombing are two different events, meaning for a time the NCR had a different capital for a time before shady sands was destroyed.
      >Shady Sands was destroyed in 2277, and the dates for New Vegas have been changed
      >Shady Sands was destroyed in 2277 and some or all of New Vegas is now non-canon
      >The show got a date wrong and it was intended to be just after New Vegas

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its amazing to me if it was just a production error considering it takes 10 fricking minutes to read a wiki

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The whole production is an error. They purposely ignored 95% of Fo1 and 2 to make their own OC environment.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They probably just saw 2077 as the start of FO3 and figured it all kicks off around the same time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        idk how old the ncr squire dude is maybe he's suppose to be like fricking early 20s considering he's in training and in the flashback he's like 7ish so maybe it was a bit after new vegas idk

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe Ulysses forgot that it was already nuked in the Lonesome Road ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess Anderson meant the politicans were detached from life itself?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I could see it as in they were so disconnected that people weren't even aware Shady Sands got nuked, but .. there's more than that single mention. President Kimball would've been very aware his capital got nuked.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, Mr. House nuked America for profit? The frick?

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are playing at unfeasibly high resolution

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are the fan campaigns like Nevada and Sonora worth a playthrough? I really like the feel of the classic Fallout games and I never can get enough after replaying them. Tried Underrail and while it's a great game, it's not very similar.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're Russian-only

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nevada, Resurrection, Olympus 2207, yes.

      Sonora not so much. It has a translation but it currently sucks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're really rough but worth playing if you're super desperate for more Fallout 2 style content.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're Russian-only

      Nevada, Resurrection, Olympus 2207, yes.

      Sonora not so much. It has a translation but it currently sucks.

      played through both of them first time in the last weeks. Both have english translation with nevada a full hand corrected one. Sonora has a 50/50 hand/machine translated one but completely readable. Some places its obvious its a machine but all big plot dialogue seem to be spell checked by a human

      General wise would recommend sonora above nevada if you want as close of a classic fallout experience as possible. Nevada came first and its noticeable that Sonora builds upon what they learned with nevada. Everything from quests to combat encounters to map and level design

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it was cataclysm that scratched the same itch fallout did. Underrail was fun at the beginning but not enough to get me to finish it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Resurrection is commonly referred to as Fallout 1.5 for a reason.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do Wanamingos piss people off when Floaters were always a pretty obvious ripoff of the facehuggers?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Floaters are fairly rare and much weaker, meanwhile Wanamingos are near inevitable if you ever frick around in Redding and they're astoundingly difficult opponents by the time you usually face them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Floaters are weirder than facehuggers. Facehuggers are just penis crabs, floaters are creepy ass worm monsters

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what fusion are they made off? At least with the other mutant you could tell what was human and what was dog

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop crying you homosexual babies

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >stop discussing video games on a video game discussion board

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think Avellone hates the NCR more than talking deathclaws?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't hate NCR. He said that making them struggle and fall could be an interesting idea, but was against the idea of removing them outright. Cheerleaders for this show overlook this important piece of context.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >could be an interesting idea
        almost like it would be a good thing to be a core part of a story or something.
        If they wanted to get rid of the NCR, why not make the show about how the NCR crumbles?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because that would actually be like real Fallout, which clearly isn't what the showrunners were aiming for.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Our naive protagonist emerging from her vault and coming across a crumbling NCR that has plenty of their own problems would have been neat.
          Get a couple of other characters who are fed of up the place and who are willing to travel with her as she tries to find her father, have someone who knew him on the surface be under threat because of the starvation and deterioating society, and you have some stakes there too.
          But nooooooooooooo.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because depicting a civilization on decline takes actual talent and effort. It is far easier to say it all fell apart of screen.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys DO KNOW the show takes place in 2296 and therefore NV DID HAPPEN right? Its just assumed the House ending was canon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How can it happen when it seems that the NCR populace got fricked before the events of the game?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because the decline of shady sands and the nuke are two seperate events, for all we knoe it couldve happened 4 years after NV.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So anon, when you hear someone say "The fall of rome" do you think they mean "this is when rome started to decline and then later on what we felt of their civilization ended"?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just because the history books say Odoacer conquered Italy in 476 doesn't mean it couldn't have happened years afterward!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine trying to go for more expansion when your capital city got blown up just a few years ago. That doesn't sound too smart.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chuds are media illiterate.
      In other news, water is wet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NCR nuked in 2060s

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turn based crap
    ew

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its fine and most of the encounters aren't that large

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the original super mutants under the Master couldn't find a vault in the same location as them?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the same location, and fully visible above ground, near easily visible ruins.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, I don't think anyone at Amazon knew who the Master was. If somebody brought him up, they probably assumed they were talking about Todd Howard (the creator of Fallout)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the Master?
        >oh you mean Todd 'the Godd' Howard
        lel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, I don't think anyone at Amazon knew who the Master was. If somebody brought him up, they probably assumed they were talking about Todd Howard (the creator of Fallout)

      >the Master
      Who? I don't remember him from F3 or F4?

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sneaks into thread without making a sound

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They actually showed who pressed the nukes in Fallout and nobody cares? I thought that was supposed to be the big purposely-vague mystery.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They actually showed who pressed the button
      Still surprised they went ahead with such a reveal for a tv show. And its all canon.
      Oh well, probably not getting the next game for the longest time by the look of things.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I reject the canon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they literally didn't show who pressed the button though?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they seem to get too into the old world shit in general

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      old bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truth bomb

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish people actually would defend 1 and 2 more instead of leaning into passive-aggressive nihilism and insisting nobody should care. Fans of 3 and 4 always do this routine where they pretend they're oppressed, but it's really the complete opposite. They get all the love and pandering. For a TV show that's set in California, I do NOT think it's unreasonable to say that 1 and 2 should be decently represented. 1 and 2 are great games, why are people afraid they won't like them if they're on screen? It would be a brilliant and introduction for many fans even.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mentions New Vegas
      >New Vegas in particular couldn't exist without all of the worldbuilding and lore of 1&2
      >3 and 4 still reference and utilize major lore bits such as the super mutants and the BOS
      I feel like this person failed to make their point effectively.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You don't get it anon
        >New Vegas = 3D and looks like Fallout 3 = GOOD
        >1/2 = isometric, sprites = yucky and outdaded = BAD

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bethesda without FO1 and 2 is Starfield. Check fricking mate.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Starfield
          God imagine if they had to build something like Fallout from scratch with their current talent.
          Well, I suppose we got a glimpse of what that would look like with Starfield.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the old games that started it all don't matter
      Idiot doesn't even realise that without those first two games, there wouldn't be an IP for Bethesda to shit all over.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kinda funny when show shit on 3 and 4 too, all the ranks of the brotherhood on the show make no fricking sense

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, Bethesda went out of their way to blow a bunch of money on an IP that no one cared for

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Amazon waste 2 episodes on the stupid Vault 4?

    The new residents were harmless and moronic, they're as peaceful as the original Vault 33 vault.

    >let's put supervisors, managers and HR people from the Old World
    KWAB

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Chief Hanlon okay?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's wasted on the sidewalk in his jacket and his jeans. wearing yesterday's misfortunes like a smile.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank god they didn't consult this white male hating homosexual for the tv show

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will never understand so many white men hating on white men, as they beg forgiveness for mere association with supposed crimes just because of their race.
      They don't have so much to be ashamed about, but that is just my opinion. Every race/culture has skeletons in the closet and it's time for white men to stop whipping themselves.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The definition of Leftism is the practice of blaming white men for all your problems.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Caesar
    Mr. House
    Joshua Graham
    Ulysses

    Man Fallout used to be so good 14 years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >14 years ago
      oh god. oh how the years have passed.
      and somehow things don't seem to get any better.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blowing up Shady Sands isn't cool man. I just feel sad.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the bad ending of 1, and the intro to 2 bother me for the same reason. it's established that the mutants and the enclave are looking for unadulterated humans but they just massacre them instead.
    a shame since 1's bad ending is well done in how horrifying it is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Enclave are looking for unadultered humans but only a few of them in order to test their new FEV. Their actual goal of TWD perfectly aligns with the intro.
      The bad ending in 1 isn't all that jarring since it's already established the low ranking grunt super mutants are more inclined towards violence and can't follow orders 1 to 1. I think it would be better to show a few mutants using cattle prods and collars on a few of the vault dwellers though and it would make it even more horrifying than it already was.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      being able to impregnate the italian guy's wife and his daughter, and actually have it affect the ending is hotter to me than most hgames tbh.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When the frick are we getting Fallout where you play as the mafia child?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Old World Blues I guess

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These graphics are kino and it's a huge part of what made ultima online so good. Imagine if ultima had fortnite disney graphics, it would have never been this big.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fallout 1/2/nv
    >deus ex 1

    Video games can be great.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    old and fat men
    slender women
    shitload of dogs

    what did they mean by this?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m going to finally do a legion playthrough of nv and have a badass thermic lance and slave waifu.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody actually likes the story of Tactics. I dunno why hipsters pretend to love it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Le supercomputer villain

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What game and what build to play as Judge Holden?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      New Vegas, melee build with cheats to make you unkillable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, New Vegas allows that because you have a mysterious past and can be an absolute bastard. Fallout 2 also lets you play a psychopath pretty well.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come in all the years the BoS has been using the T-45 and T-60 power armor in countless conflicts throughout the wasteland, not to mention these suits going through maintenance and repair the BoS never discover the "fatal flaw" with the welding just below the chest plate? I mean coop only wore it for a deployment in Alaska and he's somehow has information that an organization that's been actively fielding this armor for centuries never discovered or addressed? If the welds were faulty how come they've lasted for 200 years and no one else has discovered this flaw before?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BoS are scavengers as well and can only, at best, repair the suits they scavenge. Power armor is what forced the Chinese to drop nukes, so its clearly not an easy thing to replicate.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Power armor is what forced the Chinese to drop nukes, so its clearly not an easy thing to replicate.
        OHNONONO

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >forced the Chinese to drop nukes
        No one tell him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aliens didnt do it you unbelievably stupid homosexual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Vault Tec did it. Show says so

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              According to the new show Vault-tech nuked America to kick off the apocalypse

              >old worlds tycoons said it so it must be true
              You are easily susceptible to propaganda.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >proof?
                >nuh uh that don’t count

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Conjecture isnt proof of anything other than your own shortcomings as a free thinker.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Were you always blind to proof shoved in your face? Or were you illiterate to begin with

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Explain how the old world capitalists conspiring being directly responcible for the great war isnt conjecture. Do you even know the meaning of the word conjecture?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Explain why you are denying this when they did it in the fricking show?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, they didnt. They talked about it. Drawing a line from that to actual nuclear war is the definition of conjecture.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok so they didn’t nuke shady sands then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >immediate shift of the goal post
                IAYC

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IAYC

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's really not proof. If Amazon decided in LotR season two to have Bombadil be a raging troony, Tom wouldn't retroactively become one in the original story. The entire point of the original games is that no one knows who fired first, but that it doesn't matter. I could not care less what Bethesda decides is the correct answer, they're not going back in time and re-writing things we can all see and read right now because they spent money buying the legal right to release games with the same name.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            According to the new show Vault-tech nuked America to kick off the apocalypse

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that was always the dumbest theory

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And now it's canon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                >old worlds tycoons said it so it must be true
                You are easily susceptible to propaganda.

                That's Canon now, hope you like it. Oh and the vaults testing out potential pitfalls for a colony ship? Nah, they just turned them into experiments for funsies, no greater reason than a lark.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't the Zeta aliens stoke the flames between the Chinese and Americans?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"fatal flaw" with the welding just below the chest plate
      Please elaborate, is this some new bullshit they conjured up?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        According to the new show T-45 and T-60 power armor has a fatal flaw with the welding just below the chest plate that allows even pistol rounds shoot right through them and no one discovered this flaw except a ghoul who wore it once pre-war.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The absolute state of trash can armor of todd games

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not canon

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So since Vegas will likely be touched in the future who do you reckon won?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The crashed bird and trashed bots suggest fighting so maybe House won and the NCR had another go at it
      'course with a House victory that does leave me wondering what became of the Courier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >'course with a House victory that does leave me wondering what became of the Courier
        take your pics folks, assuming House won will they;
        A) not mention the Courier at all
        B) make some vague reference but nothing more
        C) they will show and be killed off
        D) they will show and be a faceless force of nature

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          B at best

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >House will be reduced to a "capitalism is le bad" character

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Independence/House, just because it would throw a wrench in the story without derailing it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The old schizophrenic

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wait, maybe they nuked the NCR solely so they didn't have to show the vault dweller statue and canonise their appearance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He looks like Albert Cole. Get over it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dune guy looks like him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lucy's cousin Chet would actually be a really good pick for a live action one.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >literally destroying everything built in FO1, 2 and New Vegas so we can finally have BoS worship, le epic 50s, and junk collecting in the west coast
    >something not even the most schizo of doomposters would have thought about years ago
    Haha thanks Todd! I love It! I fricking clapped when I saw the Brotherhood and the Enclave (which somehow returned)! FRICK the NCR, FRICK the Legion, FRICK the Shi, it's all about the super cool and epic Brotherhood of Steel (now in California, homeland of the show's writers!)!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FRICK the Shi
      Weren't they absorbed into the NCR? Now that the NCR has gone the way of the dodo they probably are actually a thing again

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never confirmed that they took over SanFran

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Avellone/Obsidian wanted to canonize San Francisco being nuked in revenge for the destruction of Control Station Enclave when making Fallout New Vegas, but Bethesda asked them not to because Bethesda wanted to use the Hubologists somewhere down the line.
        It's likely why San Fran is completely unmentioned in New Vegas. Obsidian didn't know how to incorporated a non destroyed San Fran without kind of breaking the late 19/early-mid 20th century style they were going for with the game.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >don't nuke san fransisco!
          >but it's alright to nuke ncr and delete every location of 1 and 2 for the tv show, just cuz it's funy

          Genuinely, what is their problem?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the hubologists were just that important to the setting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought one of the ending slides implied that they were rivals or at least that they ended up being a major power alongside NCR. I'd like to see a return of the shi one day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Avellone/Obsidian wanted to canonize San Francisco being nuked in revenge for the destruction of Control Station Enclave when making Fallout New Vegas, but Bethesda asked them not to because Bethesda wanted to use the Hubologists somewhere down the line.
        It's likely why San Fran is completely unmentioned in New Vegas. Obsidian didn't know how to incorporated a non destroyed San Fran without kind of breaking the late 19/early-mid 20th century style they were going for with the game.

        I thought one of the ending slides implied that they were rivals or at least that they ended up being a major power alongside NCR. I'd like to see a return of the shi one day.

        I assumed Hsu was from there, due to being chinese. So my headcanon was that it eventually got annexed, with their elites ingratiating themselves with the goverment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey in fairness, Brotherhood of Steel are in Fallout 1, so they technically didn't destroy literally everything about California

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >jewthesda's nu-BoS
        >in Fallout 1

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except the Brotherhood in the show is clearly from the East coast chapter as they live on the surface and recruit outsiders, neither of which the West coast chapters over do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they are not even Maxson's extremist cops BoS, just Lyons gay LARPers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They don't act like the Brotherhood, almost no one seems to actually believe in their religion. They're just a militaristic organization that has power armor and funny sounding ranks. They aren't tech worshiping fanatics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we can finally have BoS worship
      still funny to me that it is almost always the BOS taking center stage in everything Bethesda does.
      they did try to have other significant factions in FO4 at least, but I don't think anyone really cares about them.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is Bethesda's obsession with the BOSS?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have power armor, that means thay're the good guys.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marketable, recognizable, cool-looking

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be show backed by Amazon money
    >entire conflict revolves around a war between China and US
    >can't show China being evil or greedy
    >oh I know!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can't show China being evil or greedy
      oh god I hadn't considered that, its honestly possible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Confirmed who started The Great War (they went with the second worst option)
      >Confirmed the number of vaults and their locations
      God what the frick were they thinking, if they can't decanonize the entire show at least decanonize this moronic part of it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Confirmed the number of vaults and their locations
        damn maybe Bethesda really is giving up on the idea of making any Fallout games in the foreseeable future. that kind of confirmation only constrains their own creative freedom.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no they are just simplifying things so they can have their eternal good techno knights vs evil techno knights fights now that the Enclave can come back whenever they feel like it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if they can't decanonize the entire show at least decanonize this moronic part of it
        Bethesda is too proud to walk back on what they say.
        We're only going to see if this is official canon when FO5 rolls around and all of us here will be dead by that point, probably our children too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is why I like Tactics being "semi-canon". Because it's non-intrusive.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn that looks like shit

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dead

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WHY THE FRICK WOULD NUKING THE WORLD BE PROFITABLE? WHAT PROFITS? WHO'S INVESTING AND BUYING THE ELITES SHIT? THEY DON'T EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH THE END OF THE WORLD! IT DOESN'T EVEN NEED KNOWLEDGE ABOUT FALLOUT, JUST BASIC FRICKING LOGIC!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he didn't invest?
      >drop em

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It just is, okay. Capitalism is the villain of Fallout.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Could have easily had a decent show around the lore of Fallout 3 or NV (Todd would never) and got this shit instead

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >vault dwellers reclaim the surface and create the NCR
    >vault tec destroys the NCR so vault dwellers can reclaim the surface
    War never changes

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vault 13, level 3... home....

    ?si=LoWILbBLRgCmnpMt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >JUST GIVE ME THE CHIP
      bad memories from the overseer bullying me.

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