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This is horribly worded, does it mean you investigate X times were X is the damage dealt?
Why are new cards worded like ass
Yes
It wouldn't seem foreign if you aren't an ESL.
Yes. What the frick are you on about?
You can't investigate X. You investigate, which is creating a clue. This is actually better worded then pic related. It should simply be "Cascade four times".
X is only used when there's a number associated, like discover. When you discover X you reveal cards from the deck until a card with mana value X is revelead.
>You can't investigate X
There are cards that say investigate X?
You don't investigate X, you investigate X times.
That means the same thing.
It doesn't. You repeat the investigate action X times. There's no investigate X. If there was, you would, in one action, create X clues. This distinction is important for replacement effects.
Cascade is separated because each instance of Cascade causes another effects to enter the stack for each new spell cascaded.
It's the same with proliferate, for example.
Investigate can create an X amount of clues at the same time, no issue with different triggers and the stack.
You're not an oldgay, Black person. You're fake, you're hollow.
Now I guess it would read create that many 1/1 green insects tokens
The point is Mirrodin was 20 FRICKING years ago and players could still figure out that "that many" is the amount of damage dealt.
Oh no, that guy is moronic. I mean, even someone that is ESL know what "many" means.
>Mirrodin was 20 FRICKING years ago
>20 FRICKING years ago
>20 years ago
Fuuuuucckk.......
It feels longer. Kamigawa was such a slog. They were lucky they hit a home run with Ravnica
why was mirrodin so fun
No ESL dumbasses. You investigate once for each time Piper attacks and successfully damages the opponent's life. If she had 2/2, she would still only investigate once since it's one per attack. You get more investigations only if she is allowed to attack more than once in combat.
Stupid and wrong. It would just say "deals combat damage, investigate" then. Which we've already had.
More ESL idiots. There is nothing on the card that suggests you should investigate based on the amount of damage dealt.
I literally just posted a card that investigates when it deals combat damage to a player.
So you, a supposed master of english, must now tell me why "that many times" was printed upon Piper.
Are you claiming that the gender studies dropout idiots that make these cards are masters of english and are in any way consistent in their terminology? As it's written (terribly), the card states that investigations should be made once per successful attack on the opponent. Any claim that it's actually referring to damage is headcanon.
And just how do you suppose "that many times" refers to the amount of damage dealt?
>Are you claiming that the gender studies dropout idiots that make these cards are masters of english and are in any way consistent in their terminology?
Yes. I am claiming that.
So in other words, you are instead bald-faced claiming the game is inconsistent. Which makes me laugh; you are wrong and a homosexual of the highest caliber.
I guess there isn't any arguing with an ESL who thinks other ESLs are infallible.
>I'm wrong
>I will ignore all evidence that I am wrong
>I will continue to be wrong
Black folk can't read. I clearly cannot call you ESL, because you can't speak english to begin with. No language muhfuggin bix nood.
>provided no evidence
>claims evidence was ignored
Bix nood indeed.
no evidence
The evidence is "that many times". These words cannot mean nothing. I'll point at this card again
, do you think that only makes one fricking token too?
I think that card is also terribly written by ESLs at WotC too, yes.
It was written 20 years ago, dumbfrick Black person. Your shit argument basically means MtG is calvinball because you can excuse any phrasing on any card to mean whatever you want. have a nice day.
>And just how do you suppose "that many times" refers to the amount of damage dealt?
how would she investigate more than a single time if the trigger wasn't based on the amount of damage dealt, you fricking moron?
With double strike, moron. Have you even played MTG before?
she would always investigate only a single time per damage calculation and the "that many times" text wouldn't be necessary, you are an actual moron
have a nice day
I agree that the "that many times" text is unnecessary, but it's there anyways.
Do you believe everything you read is perfect english if it's older than you are or something?
The only other non-ESL in this entire thread.
>I agree that the "that many times" text is unnecessary, but it's there anyways.
They don't print meaningless data. Full stop. If you think they do, you are wrong, and you will remain wrong.
Those three words have to mean something. And what, if you wished to stop being an imbecile for just one second and make your singular brain cell fire off for just a second, what do you THINK it could mean?
>that many times
Are you moronic or just dumb? If we go off of your asinine moron goofball logic then that line would be entirely redundant. It wouldn't even be on the card.
>but but it's about extra combats
In a deck without red? No you moronic homosexual homo. Its about buffing herself and proliferating with the other cards in the decks to make more clues. Kys and do it quickly.
Holy shit edhbabies are moronic. It's for how much combat damage she deals. Hence the fact she can buff herself with the clue sacrifices and being in a proliferate deck. Quit acting like a smug homosexual when you clearly have zero clue what you're talking about. Otherwise the card would say "whenever piper deals combat damage, you create a clue token). moronic homosexual
>it's for how much combat damage she deals
Then the card would say "investigate X times equal to the amount of damage dealt by this card", or "equal to Piper Wright's power"
Instead the card seems to imply the number of investigates is based on the number of times she deals combat damage to a player, which would be one unless she gets to attack extra times.
It's stupidly worded, Magic is stupid, frick you.
You gays have misused "ESL" to the point it has no meaning anymore. Same as woke or chud, all nothingburger words because people can't help themselves.
Good bait
Fallout set’s been pretty great flavor-wise.
>All these New Vegas instead of pretending NV doesn't exist like Bethesda
Of course.
>pretending NV doesn't exist like Bethesda
4 and even 76 contain multiple references to New Vegas
they even have a few of FO1 and 2 cards
Christ that's funny
A few? There's tons of F1 and F2 cards. It's actually a huge relief. Glad they showed respect for them.
if you count original and not reprints, there are only 2
Doesn't matter really, does it? As long as they reference the OGs I'm happy. We didn't even think they'd reference NV let alone anything non Bethesdaslop
There's at least 4.
>Whenever
>When
why does WoTC do this
Whenever is something that can happen multiple times per iteration. When only happens once per iteration. You can't enter the battlefield multiple times while being the same iteration.
Yeah but the words actually have the same meaning
They could replace all instances of "whenever" with "when" and it would mean the same thing while being shorter
I agree with your tism, but our language is blessed enough to have differentiation between "when" and "whenever" to fit both those scenarios.
>Decimate
K I N O
>it
sigh
>>it
>sigh
All permanents are its in MtG.
Turns out your right. I apologise for my chudiness. I'm so used to "When X Thing enters the battlefield and peepee poopoo, X Thing gains +1/+1" et.c.
That's because that's an effect that's affecting [creaturename], putting counters on a permanent is another process entirely.
Some walkers get sexed pronouns
How the frick is Legate only 2/2? Isn't he the final boss for FNV?
He gets stronger from enemies dying, moron, and his presence alone makes creatures kys themselves. Not every card can just be a default Timmy beater. That'd be boring as absolute frick.
dies to bolt, gay.
even worse, dies to shock, ULTRAgay!!
Read his fricking effects. He's Rakdos staxxy, the forced sacrifice will empower him, and in an ideal board state, he will end up huge and strong while very few enemies remain to stop his advance.
dont let other anons fool you, its shit card you only keep in reserve to counter certain decks.
It's a goddamn commander set, you're meant to build around him with rakdos forced sacrifice.
man this set is being shilled hard here,daily threads and the most unorganic discussions ever
you want MTGA to be popular?
make a cheaper draft mode you greedy frickers
This shit isn't on MTGA, dumb frick. MTGA does not support the games largest format.
the worst thing from MTG wasnt the whole diversity pandering bullshit
it was the crossovers
Oh yeah, I want all my gay Black folk to be in universe, thank you very much.
Only morons cry about le wokes anyway
>t. psyop addict
She's in.
The name is great, if nothing else.
Should be gruul or jund though.
>modern magic the gathering
I couldn't care less, especially with all the IP gayging and Black person bullshit it has going on these days
Same. It's been REALLY grim for years now. I already hadnt paid attention to it in years but after I saw the The Walking Dead crossover bullshit that was all modern legal I just sold my collection and never looked back.
Good to see it's just as bad these days.
>see mr house card
>want to make a cool commander deck with it
>fallout decks cost an arm and a leg because they didnt release in my region
>all ancient dragons are insanely expensive
yeah, frick magic
When are the final fantasy cards dropping
Next year, don't hold your breath.
They're so fricking in..
>reprint of a must have card
yep I will never find the commander decks for sale now
>not pre-ordering them the moment they go up on Amazon and having the option to cancel after spoilers are out if they look bunk
You played yourself. I don't ever pre order Magic product but I love the world of Fallout, so it was worth it.
>assuming I can even pre order not living in burgerland
it's a 5 dollar card. The karlov manor decks are around 35-40 and had several reprints far more valuable than that shit.
>it's a $5 card
It'll be worth more than the others on the basis of it being an Enclave solider.
Imagine the smooches...
Sierra fricking Petrovita is a 3/4?
power cree... I mean her unbridled lust and addiction to Nuka Cola, combined with... uh... er... retrofuturistic post-apocaliptic clothing (which is better than magic armour) makes her far more powerful than an elite knight.
>tap to hate paper
This set looks like it will be a lot less shit than the doctor who one. God that was terrible.
>the only companion cards in the set are woman and non human
amazing work WOTC
Boone is in the caeser deck.
Why does every card have to be both an enabler and a payoff now a days?
power creep
Because combo pieces that are actually fricking useless without their other parts are FRICKING BAD CARDS, numbnuts. Synergy in a vacuum is unplayable.
Pre eldrain cards did one or the other, unless they were planeswalkers.
If mayhem devil was printed today it'd have a "2: sac a creature you control, mayhem devil gets +1/+0 until EoT", because god forbid a card just be a piece to a puzzle.
And Mayhem Devil is shit.
1 to face.
Where can I see all the cards?
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/spoilers/Fallout#paper
Hey this is actually pretty fricking DECENT. Insanely flavorful tol
Rad counters should have just been notPoison. They are needlessly complex.
they wanted rad to be a golgari activator for the mutant deck, same way junk is for
dog the mutant cards have all been homeruns for me
how viable is a commander deck with mr house and attractions?
HATE
Kino
I wish golgari would get absolute power house cards like this again.
I'm tired of every set just being some new shitty mill self gimmick that will never even come close to dredge anyways.
>AI sloppa
wtf
Probably been in commercial use for a few years now before the pleebs got their neutered versions.
It's a pretty shit piece of artwork to begin with. Why would a couple of skeletons just be sitting there upright?
Bro
He's right.
>the nukes
Nukes fricking eradicate people, it leaves nothing but a shadow.
the flavor is off the charts on some of these. I'm sorry I ever doubted you Mark
so they didn't randomly turn characters black like their did in lotr? could this be the first good universes beyond set?
>painted by olivier
>"a chance to live another day."
>immediately runs towards either a radscorpion nest or a Jackal club house
>dies within minutes
The game was rigged from the start.
I know little of MTG since Im a YGO player but if I get this correctly
>sacrifice it and summon a token
>this mimics the whole "frick with the memorial Kowalski tries to shoot you" thing ingame
Right?
Yeah
Best card
>Turn 3 academy manufactor
>Turn 4 vending machine, activate
Jesus.
Don't forget doubling season and/or primal vigor the following turns.
Really get that ramp set up.
does this bypass the tap on the treasure?
No. Academy Manufacturer changes what is created, but not any other conditions. The food, clue, and treasure will all come in tapped.
They're fricking in.
I have counted all the references in the cards to figure out how many times each game is referenced
>General Fallout gameplay and lore that was introduced in Fallout 1
Countless references, too many to count
>Characters, areas, events and creatures first shown in Fallout 1
12
>Character first shown in Fallout 1, but the card is based around Project V3
1, pic related
>Characters, areas, events and creatures first shown in Fallout 2
3
>Fallout 3 + DLC references
30
>Fallout New Vegas + DLC references
33
>Fallout 4 + DLC references
30
>Fallout 76 + DLC references
15
There are two cards that I have not been able to examine yet. They are "Marshal Anthem" and the untranslated "Fraying Sanity", but I believe they are both in the "General Fallout" category.
TL;DR: Fallout 1 and New Vegas won
it depends on wtf are you even using as a criteria. Fraying Sanity is a normal MTG card and the art is just generic vault suit guy, Marshal Anthem is also a generic reprint with the art of railroad saving synths
>Marshal Anthem is also a generic reprint with the art of railroad saving synths
Right, that's a Fallout 4 reference, then.
I was just waiting for the flavor text to confirm for sure.
flavor text is in italics, it has no flavor
Got it, the only one I saw was the Extended Art, which never have flavor text. That leaves Fraying Sanity, then.
There's one I'm missing right now that I don't remember where I found, but here's all but one of the ones I found
flamer is not a fallout 1 or 2 reference, and you forgot the enclave oil rig blowing up and the mantle
Can you show all the 1 and 2 references? I don't care about the new slop.
NTA but the master, harold, enclave oil rig, frank horrigan, aradesh, master making mutants, FO1 vault suit being worshiped, the master temple, ian, FO1 MC leaving, junktown
no idea how how got so many
they're in
Lot of cards that look like they would be fun in limited but look like they will never see any play in constructed.
They're Commander exclusive cards, only usable in Commander, kitchen table, Vintage or Legacy.
The closest you'll get to Limited with them is Cube.
They give reminder text for menace but not finality?
ran out of space
>Enchantment
>not a battle
Kek this game is such a shitshow now
______
______
____
he's in
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You doom bladed my 1/1 Human Token. Prepare to take combat damage.
she is fricking in
Go back to /tg/ to chill your political indoctrination tool that pretends to be a card game
No one cares about your politics obsession, American.
AND ONE MORE FOR THE ROAD
I cant believe people still defend FromSlop
>actually decent design space is relegated to universes beyondslop so they can sell
>UB sets are also pushed to sell
>the actual in universe shit is bottom of the barrel garbage because who cares about mtg in mtg lol?
tha absolute state of this game lmao
It is literally the cardboard version of Fortnite.
ok so you'd rather the universes stuff be shit AND regular planes be shit?
This set feels like they spent a good amount of thought on the mechanics and on the fanservice (notable characters, moments, even memes)
if the rest are of this quality, the final fantasy set is going to slap
>least disengenuous wotc shill
Karlov Manor is a good draft set, though
its 2024, collabs with popular IPs are the only thing that sell nowadays. Everyone hates star wars now but I bet if they did a star wars set people would eat that shit up. Marvel set will prove this
>two forest card
>Harold got a reference
That one on the right looks really good, damn.
I'm still mad how shit the LOTR lands were.
I hope they fired whoever designed these back in December with the layoffs.
There's more lands than that in the LOTR set.
Yes, but those are the only full arts, unless you could the secret lair which is fricking $5 a land.
The non full arts mostly look like generic slop that could be anywhere, minus the single shire plains.
>he doesn't know Middle Earth is literally our planet
I can only assume you're being intentionally obtuse at this point just to stir shit.
The "map" lands are very lazy and look like an intern crapped them out, the non full arts look like they just unused art they had lying around.
Why weren't my full art lands shit like this?
>swamp
>mordor
The one on the left is a reference to Harold, a super mutant who became infected with a GELK in Fallout 1 and 2 and became a tree in Fallout 3
The one on the left is Sanctuary from Fallout 4, dipshit. That full-art cycle is about Nora going through the events of the game and ending with her returning home. Harold is his own card.
The right lands are isometric but they chose Fallout 76 locations because NEW THING GOOD OLD THING BAD.
It look really similar to the forest town in Fallout 3.
Hey at least Harold got his own card. Shame they didnt make it a reprint of Dryad Arbor
>Shame they didnt make it a reprint of Dryad Arbor
Fallout already got a Fortification. It would be too much if they made a Land Creature as well.
see pic
what is the mountain supposed to be? I dont remember this place, nuka world?
Yep. The island is Far Habor as well I believe.
Libertalia, it's the first mission the Institute sends you on
>nuka world
Yep.
>you can't stop the press
>1/2 that has to attack face to be useful
>can be blocked and killed by the most basic creatures
What did they mean by this?
So is this like the Fortnite of card games?
Yes.
No, because Fortnite doesn't try to adhere to any lore or logic at all. It's basically just skins.
is this fallout shit a set or just a collection of EDH precons?
Latter
The actual Universes Beyond set is Final Fantasy, coming next year. For Arena too.
Can't wait for all the wacky shit that will have.
I still can't believe that EDH players will destroy all the rules of the game but have an aneurism if someone plays a Universes Beyong card.
Spoiled children usually throw the biggest fits.
isnt universe beyond legal on EDH?
>e but have an aneurism if someone plays a Universes Beyong card.
/edhg/ spergs are not the average playerbase. Many players like the UB stuff
>take a great card game with mostly weak lore and add IPs with fantastic worlds and lore into it
It's no wonder the Lord of the Rings set sold so well. Tolkiens world mogs the ever living frick out of anything Wizards has ever done. Especially post Yawgmoth/Urza timeline.
someone told me some rrat that the gathering part of mtg originally implied it would be a gathering of different IPs but they couldn't support it until now
Magic Arena is the video game I have the most hours in the past 4 years
I will never play Memeander in my life
I barely play Brawl as is
It's so weird MTG went years refusing to even do a D&D crossover even though both were WOTC properties, then all of a sudden just opened the floodgates to anything, 40k was weird enough but now fallout? Next has to be FromSoft stuff surely.
hasbro is going under and the only thing keeping it afloat are these sets
We got two DnD sets anon
Yeah, but he has a point. They went for years without wanting to do it.
Hasbro is real desperate now, though. WotC are one of their few cash cows as long as they keep milking MTG for all its worth and more.
The module lands were 10/10. They were not only really good looking, but the module numbers up the top actually continued on from the last released modules of those types.
Don't forget that they announced Marvel and Ass Creed as well
Next is Final Fantasy. Then we can do more tomfoolery.
>Final Fantasy will be in Arena
>Final Fantasy battlefield
>Final Fantasy avatars
>Maybe Final Fantasy music?
It will be the first non-standard set I spend gold and gems on to draft, unless it just ends up being mercilessly shit.
i c. That said,
>Transformers
>Street Fighter
>Stranger things
>Princess Bride???
>FRICKING CREEPSHOW?!?!?!?!
I had no idea about any of these or that they'd done so frickin' many, my local just has the 40k, Doctor who and D&D ones on-shelf.
>Hasbro going under
How is it even possible for something as big as Hasbro to face financial trouble lmao.
TiL
>I had no idea about any of these or that they'd done so frickin' many, my local just has the 40k, Doctor who and D&D ones on-shelf.
They were 90% secret lair (Limited time sales from one website, with the second-hand market being full of scalpe... I mean MTG investors) and 10% 'booster fun' (bonus cards in certain packs for specific sets. Like the Godzilla in Ikoria and the Jurassic Park/World cards being in the new Ixalan set)
>How is it even possible for something as big as Hasbro to face financial trouble lmao.
Hasbro went into deep debt to buy eOne to SUPERCHARGE all their properties. Surprise surprise, eOne is shit and actively harmed everything they worked on. They sold it off for pennies on the dollar just to get rid of them. Now they're in a bad position AND have all that debt that didn't amount to anything.
>4 billion buy
>500 million sold
It's nice to know one of the biggest companies in the world is about as good at investing as me.
Those are far more limited. The creepshow ones are also just reprints of zombie cards but with special looks. Zombie Master is like, an original MTG set card. All the princess bride cards were "reskins" meaning they are pre-existing cards but with a new name slapped on it and under it, it tells you what the actual card name is. Most don't mind this.
Everything you listed though was like 5-10 cards in a very limited time product you could only get from their website. Only Transformers was more than that, and even that was just like 15ish cards that were in a special booster slot, and not its own thing.
The stranger things and SF cards also now have "in universe" versions if you're autistic and would rather play AIESHA OF NEWPORTS N RIZZ over Ken, Burning Brawler
>then all of a sudden just opened the floodgates to anything
Hasbro made them. You think its a coincidence we got murders at karlov manor (with a clue universes beyond thing) on clues anniversary?
Why didn't they actually use clue then?
They did, there are clue cards.
5 of them total. Out of....how many cards? 300+
GThere was no clue set. They saw that WOTC was making a murder mystery set and decided trying to use a big brand to help their failing board game sales was a good idea. No sane person thought a dead boardgame would sell magic product.
>No sane person thought a dead boardgame would sell magic product.
It's the other way around, it's Magic selling a dead boardgame product.
There is a clue mini set, its just some weird stand alone product thing.
It has all the weapons as equipment, and the rooms as brand new lands.
>No sane person thought a dead boardgame would sell magic product.
bro has literally never heard of Critical Role
Next is Assassin's Creed and then Final Fantasy. Marvel is also confirmed
Crossovers are the official we're out of ideas flag, for both properties involved. Afterwards it's about shaking as much money out of the zombies pockets as you can before it crumples under its own weight.
Financially, the game is doing great. I'd say mechanically, the game is doing great (as long as you play Commander).
Even if Hasbro shuttered tomorrow, Magic would live on. Custom cards, proxies, etc. Its a timeless game that was built to scale.
>the game is doing great (as long as you play Commander).
Go suck a billion wieners.
Standard is dead, let it die. Commander is more fun.
I played more than standard but even that's beside the point.
EDH design isn't even good for EDH itself because now everything does at least 2, sometimes 3 things. Are you honestly happy with shit like deflecting swat and the other series of commander free spells? Are you happy with 35 new commanders releasing every single set? Are you happy with the blatant power and rate creep?
>Are you happy with the blatant power and rate creep?
actually yes because it's raised the average powerlevel up so people whine less
Please go back to /edhg/
Here is your Magic The Gathering cards bro
what is teysa suppose to represent?
My wiener becoming erect.
I play MTG Arena, so none of these are playable except for Teysa and Frodo if I go play the cringe modes
Feels good
Warhammer fantasy set when?
Necrons are fricking cool
There's like nothing wrong with like half of these.
>sliver legion
Literally a charity thing. The art was originally done like a literal 5 year old and then a real artist tried to build off that.
>Optimus
Reskin
>Bus
Reskin
>Blanka
UW
>Dustin
UW
>Magus
Foglio also did moronic art and everyone loved it
>Negan
UW
>Frodo
What's wrong with fricking frodo?
>Necron
No real opinion here
>Teysa
There isn't any issue here.
realistically speaking, how viable is a mr house full dice deck?
Pretty terrible to focus on dice alone. Even if you're using D20s to get even more robots, you're better served focusing on a treasure angle to aim for a Revel in Riches win.
why the frick does every card now creates treasures or foods
If cards don't snowball out of control instantly they are unplayable trash.
power creep.
Blame the school of design that led to Horizons Block Constructed. Modern Horizons 1&2 introduced MASSIVE amounts of power creep that every eternal format is struggling to adjust to
out of curiosity is there any "collab" card that is pr was top tier? I feel collabs happen often but whenever I see a magic thread it is just people shitting on them.
a lot of cards from LOTR are broken, the one ring is a must include in every deck
When did you quit, Ganker? I quit around 2017-2018.
Frick the new timeline. Ban every card and alternate art/flavor text that released after Fate Reforged.
Dude, I quit in Mirrodin. Only played single player games after that.
20 years ago
All tcgs are scams
I quit when Oko turned the game into a 3/3 elk.
does this mean there will be an elder scrolls set?
that sucks
mtgsisters...the yugioh chuds are laughing at us again...
>new cards
>almost all have terrible art.
I WILL NOT BUY.
>new vegas stuff
Just like that i look away from yugioh today, it looks fricking good