you are such a gay. everything in the game was paced fine, stratums are fine, difficulty was excellent. I'm sorry the game was focused on gameplay rather than the Persona you have been accustomed to (Persona is also a good series)
please explain? I haven't played the game for 3 years and did a Staus/LUCK/VIT build and enjoyed it greatly. Only couldn't beat Shiva. How was the game ruined?
look man SMT having amazing gameplay doesn't excuse shitty writing. if it wanted to be exclusively focused on the gameplay then it shouldn't have included a story at all. stop defending garbage. this isn't a dick measuring contest with persona.
>Dark Souls has minimalist story telling
OMG MASTERPIECE >SMTV has minimalist story telling
WTF WHY ARE THEY MAKING ME THINK ABOUT THE STORY WHY AREN'T THEY JUST SPOONFEEDING IT TO ME!?
Listen up, play SMT4 and you will quickly realize how V storywise was a total frick all. Like zero
You can’t? Fine, look up both “SMTmovie” for both games and compare the timestamp between them.
SMTIV is garbage, easily the worst entry in mainline SMT. V might not be great in the story department, but it absolutely destroys 4 in gameplay, area design, and exploration.
Nothing in the game is unfinished. They took out a dog mount and a couple of sidequest demons. That's it, that's the only thing anyone has ever been able to find.
I didnt like the glasses gay but did like how the Law reps were lunatics while the chaos reps were orderly. Sahori should have gotten her own route where you team up with Lahmu.
I love the subtle allignment nods, Abdiel becoming Dark Law and Lucifer becoming Light Neutral too
3 months ago
Anonymous
it doesn't really make full sense because the story and lore content is so thin and that's why I'm glad this game is coming out
aside from abdiel lucifer just fricking gives you two pieces of dialog
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lucifer is the one setting things in motion, hence why you hear his pre-programmed message from Aogami in the very beginning of the game. I think Lucy and YHVH's absence driving the narrative is one of the more interesting elements of V, I wouldn't change that bit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
true, but you hear nothing else about him during the game other than the fact that he killed god
like I think the overall idea of him is very cool. but he doesn't have a point to point story to arrive at the point we see him in the end game. really no ones does but abdiel
3 months ago
Anonymous
He flew the coop. His army is holed up in his old castle going Chaos Banzai! not realizing they've been abandoned for Neutral.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why is Lucifer a giga Black person in IV tho? I still don't get it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's no real reason, it was kind of a soft reboot of 1 and 2's plot. In IVA they realized it was kind of stupid and they retconned that Lucifer as being a piece of Satan instead of the same Lucifer as the other games.
3 months ago
Anonymous
IV-A story is complete trash, the gameplay improvements are the only thing worth playing for.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the gameplay improvements are the only thing worth playing for. >the good gameplay is the only thing worth playing a video game for
Is this supposed to be bad?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Is this supposed to be bad?
not at all but the person I replied to specifically mentioned the story, are you moronic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Even more than V?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. V is just like Nocturne, the story isn't bad or anything, there's just not a lot of it and you spend most of it wandering around lonely ruins. IVA has a big story and it's a big stinky poopy from trying to get that sweet persona cash.
National defense divinities, does that ring a bell?
3 months ago
Anonymous
They were neutral bit chaos. For frick sake Masakado is THE neutral rep
3 months ago
Anonymous
Masakado isn't part of those. He was a rebel. He tried to overthrow the Japanese Emperor for the sake of the people.
For example in Nocturne the Four Heavenly Kings straight up keep him sealed since him being released would upset the status quo again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Status quo is literally the opposite of chaos anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
>For example in Nocturne the Four Heavenly Kings straight up keep him sealed since him being released would upset the status quo again.
That's in SMT1 too SMT2 has you collect his corpse parts but I don't think they were involved there
3 months ago
Anonymous
They were literally helping with the whole red pills situation. Working hand in hand with takaya. Masakado had become the dome years before that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>They were literally helping with the whole red pills situation. Working hand in hand with takaya.
From what I remember it was against their wills, because takaya had their medium or some shit and unlike masakado theirs didn't come with any lock
3 months ago
Anonymous
how did you miss the detail about them being enslaved and hating the fact that they work for Tayama all of them straight up fricking thank you for killing them
3 months ago
Anonymous
Masakado isn't aligned with any of those.
He's a lone wolf pure Neutral motherfricker whose legend/ divinity is based on him giving up everything for the sake of Japan's people.
The traditional nationalistic Japanese gods are usually a lot further down the Chaos route, in a lot of the games they are straight up antagonistic to him.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kunitsu (Earthly Gods) generally Chaos, Amatsu (Heavenly Gods) more Law. It's not fully set in stone though. Susano-o's technically Amatsu but he's Chaos.
I'm burnt out after trying to get it to work on Yuzu (yeah, yeah, it emulated BotW beautifully for me though and that's my only experience with Switch emulation) but I might try once I'm less pissed.
Brother, I played it on release on Yuzu and there were graphical glitches everywhere and you couldn't unlock the FPS without the game shitting itself. After it crashed THREE TIMES after starting combat around 10 or so times yesterday I completely gave up. No way I'm playing at 30FPS.
3 months ago
Anonymous
PEBKAC
3 months ago
Anonymous
PEBKAC
3 months ago
Anonymous
God the world must be such a mysterious and wonderful place for someone as dumb as you
I almost envy morons such as yourself
Yuzu for me had graphical messes, Ryujinx didn't seem to. I could probably fix said issues but Ryujinx mostly had none and ran the game at 60 with the other mod enhancement shit so I stuck with it. I use AMD if that matters
God I hope. Tried emulating it yesterday and the game is unstable as frick.
I played it on RyujinX on release and it was largely fine. Yuzu had some texture issues for me I remember.
There some minor issues on RyujinX but they patched them pretty quickly, ended up running much better than on Switch after a few days
Nintendo staff is directly involved in the localization, but it has never stopped PC/mobile ports before.
It's a hurdle for PlayStation/Xbox ones except when the publisher pays a lot of money and is ready to forgo future similar arrangements with Nintendo, but it happened with The Wonderful 101. Technically they can still launch them without the localization like with Dragon Quest 7 mobile which was Japan-only.
And again, Nintendo can't afford to piss off Atlus too much after what happened with Tokyo Mirage Sessions (shifting blame to Atlus for Treehouse localization edits and impacting hype about Persona 5 that had far heavier content that was cut than TMS) or Shin Megami Tensei 4 (handled by Nintendo of Europe for 5 languages, but delayed indefinitively and cancelled. Atlus released their inhouse translation digitally only for Europe later on) and really wanted to secure the release of that temporary exclusive they showed in the Switch launch trailers without Atlus suddenly deciding a localization is unprofitable after a visit by some Sony executive (like with the mysterious cancellation of Genshin Impact on Switch) so they had to step in.
>handled by Nintendo of Europe for 5 languages, but delayed indefinitively and cancelled. Atlus released their inhouse translation digitally only for Europe later on
do you have any sources for that?
also how likely do you think it is for this new game and other upcoming mainline games to be nintendo exclusive?
Almost all of his post is bullshit dude. I mean, the thinks that Nintendo localisation has never gotten in the way of a port when it's usually the only example of localisation getting in the way and then he goes on to act like w101 was just a case of localisation when they actually owned it at one point.
it seemed like half truth so I got curious. there never was an explanation why IV didn't get a physical release in euro regions. or that >Atlus suddenly deciding a localization is unprofitable after a visit by some Sony executive
did sony care about mainline that much in 2016, highly doubt so.
but then again it's kinda true? certainly the case for bravely default 2 or octopath traveler, iirc both of those games got localization help from nintendo and a PC port like a year later
More than likely, yeah.
Persona is released on PC these days, Soul Hackers 2 was released on PC too, and the SMT Nocturne remaster also got ported.
Iirc, there were mentions to Steam in the Switch version's files and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too, so we knew it was going to happen sooner or later.
This SMTVV is just a modern platform port with all DLCs and potentially some story changes just like Nocturne's own.
>Iirc, there were mentions to Steam in the Switch version's files and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too, so we knew it was going to happen sooner or later.
That means nothing, "Steam mentions" were generic UE configuration files that were left over, and "NVIDIA leak" was developers using PC to test the game prior to release.
>and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too
I wouldn't use that as definitive proof given that a bunch of Nintendo games and games like Bayonetta 3 were also in the leak.
>That means nothing, "Steam mentions" were generic UE configuration files that were left over, and "NVIDIA leak" was developers using PC to test the game prior to release.
Fair.
Common sense still dictates that SMTV will make its way to PC natively in due time just like Persona, Nocturne and Soulless Hacks did.
And well, if it doesn't it's not the end of the world. The game works fine on Ryujinx.
>That's not common sense
Yes, it is.
If they brought their other popular series and entries to PC, common sense dictate they will bring this one too. It's very simple logic.
Nocturne IS an SMT game btw, I'm not sure if you're aware of that. It's literally SMT3. SMTV = SMT5.
>that's just what you want.
Not "just", but I would definitely take a PC port nonetheless.
>and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too
I wouldn't use that as definitive proof given that a bunch of Nintendo games and games like Bayonetta 3 were also in the leak.
Frick man, it needs to be ported everywhere pronto.
But this is Atlus we’re talking about. Took them over 10 years to port Persona 4 like 5 years after P5 was popular and they haven’t ported the expensive DS & 3DS either now that eShop is dead.
I’m hoping they realise porting a game like this will do well considering how many MegaTen fans there are outside Nintendo platforms. FFS
>considering how many MegaTen fans there are outside Nintendo platforms. FFS
There's pretty much none. It's just persona fans outside that sphere and they're in the PlayStation sphere.
Picture this anon. You're going through the area right before the first time you fight the werewolf guy. You pick up a soul (or whatever) that lets you gain the buffed electric attack RUINOUS THUNDER, your very first "heavy" attack of any kind. You're itching to try it out, when suddenly there's a boss fight!
This music starts playing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2alndqSn0
It's weirdly calm at first but you queue up your sick new lightning attack, calling it down from the sky. Just as it lands, 0:12 starts.
It felt like I directed my own cutscene and it's basically the only thing I remember from playing it. Regrettably I think he was immune to the attack but it was still fricking epic.
This stupid fricking theme, anon.
I too loved it since i heard it all the way back in the 20th anniversary with all the mainline games (remined that NINE is mainline). I waited to whole fricking game to jear and when i recognized the melody at the fricking credits, i unironically basedfaced. God the part with the bells is gorgeous.
Can you spend 1 second to read beyond the game's title? It literally says "a complete edition with improvements and additional content". It is SMTV but improved, not the SMT5 equivalent of SMT4A.
Honestly I'd pay just for an alternate MC-costume. I can't stand the troony-style of the character. A costume with either shorter hair or more baggy clothes would justify a purchase for me.
Agreed. Seriously, can't believe Atlus caved and took troony shit in mind like Christianity and Hinduism when writing a story about someone ascending to godhood. Also can't believe trannies invented time travel so they can forced Atlus to make pic related smhtbhfamalam
First sentence >기존의 진 여신전생5에 일부콘텐츠가 추가되고 개선된 완전판 롤플레잉 게임 >A complete version featuring content additions and enhancements to the existing SMT5 RPG game.
do we even know the platforms? i just don't give a frick about nothing else.
>the source is literally the korean equivalent to resetera
I didn't know Resetera was the ESRB
anon, the source on the article is literally ruliweb and not the ratings website, do you really think a journo can even navigate the korean ratings site?
3 months ago
Anonymous
is you hover over "rated" on the article there's the link for where the rating was
also, it's a weeb gaming news site so he probably knows
3 months ago
Anonymous
jesus christ zoomers are moronic, go to the source website and look at what the website is called
3 months ago
Anonymous
this is the source for me
https://www.grac.or.kr/Statistics/Popup/Pop_ReasonInfo.aspx?fc6aef0f5f448ce085dbe5cedda63c14a6c813a6a053e8e5ec12581d53453bb0
https://www.grac.or.kr being the korean esrb website
3 months ago
Anonymous
How are you getting that as a source when nothing links to it?
>SMT4 has a godawful story.
And it's still better than most SMT game stories. Let's not kid ourselves. SMT3's story sucks in comparison to 4's. 3 does other things better, but story isn't one of them.
>Walter's entire character arc >Jonathan's entire character arc >Isabeau's entire character arc
lol
The best written parts were fricking random npc dialogues because they weren't constrained to moronic script.
Kaneko's notes were basically about having the same game twice, first as Counter-Demon Force, then as their reincarnations as Samurai. Atlus wasn't exactly in position to fund two full games at the time, and it does work better for the story if CDF part is entirely relegated to flashbacks, since it builds mystery. But that's basically it, there were so many characters that ended up doing literally nothing, like Skins and Fujiwara. Hikaru and Lilith were also complete ass. So yes, the best part is just traveling around and talking to NPCs, it gives you an illusion of a fuller game.
SMT 1, 3, and 5 have the best stories. It’s simple they don’t beat your head with pointless exposition. You can really filter people by this. I’d gladly take another SMTV over pos SMTIV or worse SMTIV Apocalypse. The latter has the worst story in the series.
I'd say NINE has the best story, but far and away some of the worst gameplay of not just the franchise, but RPGs in general. It's not the absolute worst but it's pretty far down there.
cool are they going to fix how there's no story and no characters and no dungeons and the gameplay sucks and all the bosses are the same and the game runs like shit and the pacing sucks and the music sucks and there's zero replayability
Has a enhanced rerelease of any game ever released on everything but the original platform (or platform family when applicable)? I can't think of any examples. I have to imagine it would release on Switch (2) at minimum.
P5R was on the PS4 just like the original, and Catherine Fullbody was released on the same platform family (because obviously they aren't going to release it as a fricking PS3 game in 2019).
If P5R was release on the Switch, Xbox, and PC, but NOT the PS4 or PS5, then it would have been an example of what I am asking for.
It'll be on Switch. If it's close enough to be rated, it could even be revealed during the partner direct, then when the Switch 2 gets released next year, they'll release it on there with the wave of other ports they'll have.
I have a PS4 and switch so I get that other anon. I'm not buying that game again if it's just all the DLC though, at least add new shit to it. Also frick buying a PS5 just for those games.
Pretty sure that would just be the death of SMT then and there. Time and time again we've seen that there's little audience for megaten in general on any other platforms.
Just look at how hard the ps1 and 2 megaten games flopped other than Persona. Then nocturne was a colossal failure on ps4.
Shit like this is why I have never bought an Atlus game until years later.
Now, I did buy P5 at launch, but that was because I was assuming they'd go the DLC route.
Won't make that mistake again. I'm skipping Metaphor: ReFantazio for at least 3 years.
They need to add based Dagda.. i cant believe he wasnt a demon like several others from Apocalypse.
I'd buy the game again IF they add a bunch of new demons, otherwise no thanks!
They already admitted it was unfinished before it even came out.
They scrapped their plans and scaled down like 5 fricking times before quickly rushing it out, they were never anything but open about that.
There's entire interviews about all the content they wanted to include but couldn't because of money and time constraints.
they never outright said it was not finished. they ( and by they I mostly mean Doi cause who else talked about V) mostly said vague sugercoated stuff about the game's content or better said lack of content, along with "we tried our best" and I'm sure they did. it's pretty clear the issues that game has was mostly managerial and higher up meddling than anything else
people only figured out what he meant way after the game came out.
But Satan is Law in SMT since he's based on the Book of Job's Ha-Satan. The only time he was ever Chaos was Devil Survivor 2 which in generally had some weird placements for some demons.
Play tbh they're good games.
Absolute travesty that it took untill SMT V for your demon's race to matter during gameplay and it is still not as well done as in tbh.
When I played the DLC it definitely felt like this was supposed to something that ran parallel as the main side quest to the game.
What are you talking about? It was hamfisted as shit and was literal teleport points next to save points. It was unnecessary and only served as fanservice.
I don't remember shit about the last 40% of the game before doing post game content. A bunch of stupid shit happens then their was an anticlimactic easy as shit final boss I legitimately don't remember then it just... Ends
All I remember is Lucifer having merged with YHVH to become a Nahobeaner and killing the Great Will and then staging everything that happened in the game so someone else could kill him or some bullshit
I don't remembered that but I believe it. Frick sake V sucked. 1-3 are all extremely minimalist and still manage to be inpactful. Guess that's what happens when you can your director leaves through development
Daji and Wukong hopefully added kinda weird some of the Chinese demons didn’t have any thoughts about Nuwa running around too but the whole story is a mess anyways.
>I'll wait a bit, surely there will be a PC version >no? oh well guess I'll just emulate it lat-- >SMTV COMPLETE EDITION REPUTABLE CHINESE LEAK >back to waiting then >... >nothing? I really should just emulate it at this p-- >SHIN MEGAMAN TENCENT V: REVENGEANCE
please
Complete edition leaks so far were all a scam since they're just trying to guess the general Atlus timeframe for Maniax edition. Even Nvidia shit that people still clutch to means nothing since it only meant that Atlus developers ran SMT V on PC during development (no shit, they even show it in developer interviews). This is the only legit leak and we're basically few days away from the official reveal.
I still theorize Tao in an early version was supposed to be Amaterasu, but they scrapped that idea and didn't change Tao's 1st goddess form to accommodate the new script
Apparently, Tao was Amaterasu, or at least that's what the idea was. In the end, it never really amounted to anything and she was just a random unnamed being who possessed Tao or whatever.
Maybe, but then again Atlus has never done post-launch DLC before and they're doing so with P3's The Answer this year. Anything could happen at this point.
How about you spend 10 seconds checking before you post. No, it wasn't Day 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm looking at the wiki and there's 0 info on it. Care to provide a link?
3 months ago
Anonymous
https://www.giantbomb.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv/3030-31809/dlc/
The DLC was release over time, including the story DLC.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I see. Well then this makes The Answer the 2nd time they're doing post-launch dlc then, since they've been doing exclusively day 1 for the past 10 years.
3 months ago
Anonymous
My point is that they have done non-Day1 DLC before. They NEVER done a shadow drop. And again, they is no way they are going to forgo the money they can rake in for special physical editions.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm looking at the wiki and there's 0 info on it. Care to provide a link?
3 months ago
Anonymous
How about you spend 10 seconds checking before you post. No, it wasn't Day 1.
How did my message get posted twice? How did it even allow that?
3 months ago
Anonymous
How about you spend 10 seconds checking before you post. No, it wasn't Day 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
SMT4 had like a weekly release schedule for the DLC fights if I remember correctly.
It definitely wasn't Day 1.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Okay so it was a staggered day 1 release rofl it's basically the exact same thing
having just done a replay of it some 6 months ago i am more than happy to play it again in the next few months. it's a game so good and so gameplay based that it can't really be spoiled by one playthrough imo. i would continue if i was you.
I played it on Switch too. There's multiple dungeons that run at single digit FPS.
The final one is especially bad. All those floating cubes and shit absolutely destroy the Switch. It's ridiculous.
Mostly just the usual Eric idiocy.
He kept spamming "You'll never see it coming, to Shitch" threads.
All those multiplat SMT V """""leaks""""" just added to it: "SMT V is coming to Playstation, P5 on Shitch never ever"
Oh it wasn't just Ericnir was it just being ported to the switch. Most PlayStation players were opposed to the idea of persona 5 being ported in general.
I played until I entered the 2nd zone. Do new SMT versions change a lot of stuff from the base game like the persona ones do or will I basically get the same experience?
Well it can go two routes.
Either it goes IV:Apocalypse route where we get a sequel in the same with a new protag and story, but with the same setting and map.
Or it goes the maniax/redux route same game with new ending and story content.
Both rebalance the game and mechanics while adding in new demons.
Would you say they generally rebalance the game to be easier? If i'm not going to get something close to the original experience I'll just suck it up and deal with playing it on the switch first
Toss up really.
Never played original nocturne since it was nip only, but I can imagine the additional exp youbget from going through the new bonus dungeons not to mention the fiends you can fuse and dante+uber pixie which you get for free making the msin game easier.
But the new dungeon and new final boss is harder than anything you encounter in the main game.
Same goes to redux to a somewhat lesser extend.
IV:A on the other hand is way harder and better balanced than IV.
Can i get a definitive SMT 1, 2 and If remaster done in the etrian HD engine that combines all cool stuff from each version like the small voice acting, vision cutscenes and psx ost into a single game in english?
According to le ATLUS leaker there's supposed to be a PS2 remaster sometime soon, probably Raidou as the Raidou devs are working on an unannounced title. Partner Showcase is also soon. Wishful thinking but Nocturne HD and V were shown in one showcase back then, also known as the worst Direct ever.
Even if this is fake, something SMTV is coming at some point, sooner or later.
>According to le ATLUS leaker there's supposed to be a PS2 remaster sometime soon, probably Raidou
Nah, Raidou needs a full remake, specially the first one which is clunky as shit.
If they intend to remaster a game, it's gonna be DDS.
>Nah, Raidou needs a full remake, specially the first one which is clunky as shit.
I do agree, I hope to frick it's a remake and not just a remaster, but it's also ATLUS
I doubt it would be DDS but that game was good too
I loved SMT V brahs even though lucifer looks like a moronic transformer at the end of the game. Law is the best route aside from True Neutral in V cause Dazai starts teleporting around like a gamer because he got archangel pussy
>Law is the best route aside
Yes, I agre- >cause Dazai starts teleporting around like a gamer because he got archangel pussy
...That's a very shallow reason for like that route.
>and the remaster sold about the same on switch and playstation.
The switch version outsold the PlayStation anon, by quite a significant amount. It wasn't close at all.
The game was made by ATLUS and it was not made available on PC.
I like Shin Megami Tensei, so why would I not play a game I have access to, of a series that I'm into?
You're looking at this from the wrong angle, buddy. A rather pathetic life you must lead to care about console wars tbh. Very sad to see, but a common sight in this board.
yeah her ousting from the plot so early on was a detriment in the original. lahmu needs to survive the boss fight and her role needs expansion for sure
To be honest I would like to see more beanos and an all out battle royale against the other factions.
SMT V was so close to my dream SMT plotwise.
A war between different factions of gods and their knowledge bearers and you having to pick a side and fight them in their own domain which are all dungeons based on their mythological hangout.
Like having to climb mount olympus to fight Zeus or having to storm valhalla to punch odin.
you only get burned by it once. then you learn to wait. plus PC players got smt 5 for free anyway. I enjoyed the game so much i will gladly pay for a steam release.
What are you talking about? They've been israeli for decades, well before DLC became a trend.
Nocturne was re-released twice.
Persona 3 was re-released too.
Do you even know how many ports of SMT1 there are broski?
Just frick my shit up, bros, why, I don't want to have to buy it again
Although I might do it if it gets ported to xbox because I hate the frame rate drops and all the texture popping of the switch version
You are mad that they did the thing they have done for literally every single game since Nocturne? Even SMT4A was going to be another one, but they eventually changed their mind and spun it off into something else.
The frick are you talking about dumbass, it was Maniax edition of IV with a team of fresh hired developers for training them until they had enough ideas to warrant making it a separate game.
NTA but you may tongue my anus.
https://www-famitsu-com.translate.goog/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=97867&_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
3 months ago
Anonymous
You absolute moron. That's says a higher up suggested a maniax update but they went with a sequel instead.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not admitting when one is wrong is a bad personality trait. You are being deliberately dishonest to avoid admitting that you were in the false.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So they considered a Maniax version, but didn't. And they didn't even consider making it as a DLC. So I think he was more right then you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So they considered a Maniax version, but didn't.
No.
A higher up SUGGESTED it and the dev team went with a sequel. It was never an enhanced game and it was never DLC.
That is what this
NTA but you may tongue my anus.
https://www-famitsu-com.translate.goog/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=97867&_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
is saying.
You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>higher ups suggest Maniax Expansion >plan it out >decide to make a fully new game instead
It started as an enhanced edition and then became a stand-alone game. Simple as.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>plan it out
This didn't happen. They were given the opportunity to make a new 4 game, a higher up suggested 4 maniax, the dev team made an outright sequel instead.
That's it and it's exactly what your image says.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think they're under the assumption that a suggestion means development.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Original posted said that it was supposed to be Maniax but then became it's own game. And that's exactly what happened. Anyway this is turning into one of the 八苦 so cya.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, one person suggesting 4 maniax doesn't mean it was going to be 4 maniax. How are you not getting this yet?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Original posted said that it was supposed to be Maniax but then became it's own game. And that's exactly what happened
NTA but you're seeing it as >lets make a new 4 game >why don't you make an enhanced version like maniax >yeah sure >you know this would make a better sequel so let's do that
When its >lets make a new 4 game >why don't you make an enhanced version like maniax >no I think we'll make a sequel instead
The former means it was maniax at one point the latter doesn't and that's the scenario that actually happened.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
but it is, and I'm not that person. How isn't it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>A higher up SUGGESTED it
Which means it was something that they considered. For them to have rejected it, it had to be suggested, then considered, and then deemed not the right choice. Which is more than you can say about the idea that the game was originally DLC turned into a game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
Because it is.
https://shin-megamitensei.jp/history/
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not >https://personacentral.com/retronauts-smt-strange-journey-redux-developer-interview/ >Strange Journey was thought of as a spin-off when it was originally being developed, and the quality of the title had marketing suggest that it should be labeled “Shin Megami Tensei IV.” Ishida rejected this suggestion, however, believing it to be best to have it stand on its own as a spin-off.
Your link also has if... and Nine which are also spin offs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If and Nine are both mainline.
3 months ago
Anonymous
If was literally named If after "what if". It's a spin off whether you like it or not.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>if >mainline
Are you moronic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's mainline it's not numbered mainline or as the japs call it ナンベリング
3 months ago
Anonymous
you are reaching critical levels of stupidity, anon, continuing further may lock your brain alignment into the moron route, do you wish to continue to walk this path and face its hardships?
3 months ago
Anonymous
b***h fricking read the wiki page
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A5%B3%E7%A5%9E%E8%BB%A2%E7%94%9F
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because Wikipedia pages are known for their accuracy.
All this just because you don't want to accept that SJ is a spin off, something the creator of the game confirmed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>using wikipedia as the source
ngmi
3 months ago
Anonymous
do you truly wish to build a world without intelligence, anon? Is this really the path you want to take?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Certified spin off on your own link.
3 months ago
Anonymous
did you just cut the part where it's a subsect of 真・女神転生シリーズ
3 months ago
Anonymous
>subsect
It's almost as if they're shin megami tense spin offs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
spin off not in the way you mean it in the same lane as persona. but yes. supplementary material to mainline smt, non numbered mainline. you don't see debisama in this list. as long as you don't make that distiction like most japs do you will remain confused.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he's not pretending
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's boxgay, what did you expect
3 months ago
Anonymous
Then it's not mainline you dumbass.
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
here's how it went >so lets do something with Navarre >no you can't do anything with him unless you make him a joke character >alright lets add this new character, he's a hunter in tokyo >atlus goes bankrupt >frick it lets make a new game
You mean a mechanic that existed throughout the entire series that you've only noticed now because it was the first SMT game that didn't have laughably broken buffs and debuffs?
You mean a mechanic that existed throughout the entire series that you've only noticed now because it was the first SMT game that didn't have laughably broken buffs and debuffs?
Yeah I don't get it either even in nocturne even when you have like max/40 str at lv 1 you will not do anywhere even near as much damage as having 10 str at level 20.
Yeah I don't get it either even in nocturne even when you have like max/40 str at lv 1 you will not do anywhere even near as much damage as having 10 str at level 20.
I don't really get the complaints because spamming Accursed Poison/Fairy Banquet breaks the game in half and then when you get to the end, you can just use Adversity for burst strats to cheese bosses like Shiva and Demifiend.
They probably just tried to dump everything into Str/Mag and got wrecked due to bad Vit.
If it becomes multiplat, 99% of the shitposting will instantly disappear and they'll claim the new edition fixed everything even if it adds nothing. Most of the shitposting comes from the port beggars, like you can see in the replies of every announcement.
Oh no, the shitposting will get much worse as people spam about how imaginary tendies were opposed to the port and then you'll have people hating the game just because it was released on a Nintendo system at all like with monster hunter rise.
Oh no, the shitposting will get much worse as people spam about how imaginary tendies were opposed to the port and then you'll have people hating the game just because it was released on a Nintendo system at all like with monster hunter rise.
>Tendies already in damage control
Lmao as if you didn't shit on Octopath for "betraying" Nintendo
probably not cause a lot of the love for maniax came from the fact that you fight Lucifer and you already do that in V
Manaix added stuff to a foundation and that made base nocturne a more full experience but for V it's like the whole skeleton exist but nothing more to it it's literally a polished demo of a full game
no frick it I really wish mainline stepped away from Abrahamic religions there's all these cool religions do something with them
like it's the whole point of the game that the influence of YHVH and Lucifer is fading and the endless power struggle has destroyed both sides giving an opportunity for old gods to try and seek their own power so do something with that instead
(me)
like there's no depth to it you'd think all these old gods should have had intricate plans to gain power again but they all die like b***hes it's so disappointing even if the premise is really cool
I don't know how many times I've said the exact same think but I really really like the overall ideas of V
Hebrew traditionally only writes consonants, but you can add the extra markings for vowels if you want.
There is a taboo against pronouncing the name Yahweh, so despite being spelled as such it is usually pronounced Adonai when when read from the Torah. Therefore, the vowels of Adonai are added to the consonants of Yahweh, to indicate the replacement reading.
Y H W H consonants + A O A vowels = Yahowah or Jehovah.
In other words, it's a misreading of the actual name.
The entire Fiend subplot in addition to the Amala Labyrinth and Dante didn't exist in base Nocturne. Nocturne had the least amount of plot in its original release among the games.
I know but what did exist is the base ideas about the conceptions, the reasons, and the vortex world
all those are brilliant ideas and the proper base they built the rest of the game on, maniax content is one aspect of nocturne.
Same world war beano would be cool.
A battle royale between true gods for the right to ascend to creator god.
I don't necessary want a battle royal I more want them to come into the play with "here's my world and here's the shady shit I've done to achieve it"
they tell you the war is over for the most part and the parties are on wait and see phase but all the gods do is "jeez how do I find my knowledge now"
all but shiva
The story could have so many little rewrites and extra scenes added to help the pacing and worldbuilding but they'll probably just add a random waifu character who interjects every now and then to give you one extra ending
also please make lucifer harder than shiva and fix the level scaling
>they'll probably just add a random waifu character who interjects every now and then to give you one extra ending
Reject new waifu, expand role of existing waifu Amanozako
Demifiend finally gets around to punching God in the face
Lucifer reads the note God left him and it said he's a homosexual
Depressed, he calls of Armageddon and kidnaps a robot copy of Susano'o and tells him to go find (You) so you can save the world or some shit
Meanwhile United States (Angels) is bullying Japanese (Amatsukami) and the rest of demon UN to try to prove God is still on top
But you becoming Nahobino throws a big monkey wrench on it because the existence of true gods is supposed to be ultimate blasphamey
The angels try to gag order this shit as old demons start to wise up (Tentacle bro and his sisterwife)
Japanese prime Minister sees his chance and puts you front and center in Angel campaign to wipe out Lucifer army that has been all Remeber the Alamo for 20 years
All the other countries see what's going on and all out war breaks out in heaven
Your own sister wife, Amaterasu megami tensei's and guides you as you stomp all the other pretenders
Become Ass Gods
>Loved Persona 5 >Always wanted to try SMT >Buy SMT 5 >Game runs at 20fps most of the time in the open world >Dropped it 2 hours in because of the headaches
Feels like I got scammed by this game, and I heard the story sucks as well.
Not sure I care tbh
The gay protagonist, boring maps, nodungeonslol, shit story and irrelevant characters really killed the game for me, especially after atlus was on a roll with strange journey, 4 and 4a.
If they only made 4 I can't really fault them so hard for at least trying the NFT thing, just a little test to see how it went, hard to be critical when we have square enix who were determined to go all in on that shit
>best music
Maybe >best graphics
Okay >coolest MC
I question this >best wife (Amanozako)
Yes >best bro
I mean, it's either him or Dagda, so I guess yeah. >Should I continue?
But the story through?
You know megami tensei were originally a series of books
Oi oi oi, we're talking about an edgy story where God or YHVH and the Devil are written like morons from a sunday cartoon and the MC is always the smartest guy in the room with power to enslave them both at his leisure... are you SURE we play SMT for the award winning story...
>best music
4 >best graphics
Duh >coolest MC
Strange journey >best wife (Amanozako)
3 >best bro
Strange journey >Should I continue?
No, you should have a nice day.
Why is there still no SMT X persona cross over games where persona characters have to face the post-apocalyptic world and fight devil summoners? (I know persona 2 kinda did that but it was still mostly a smt spin-off then)
I think it would be a good way to bring persona fans to the mainline games, and seeing persona Mary-Sue characters going bonkers and killing each others would be fun
>I think it would be a good way to bring persona fans to the mainline games
no thanks, kindly frick off back to discord. this post reeks of purse owner troon infiltration. pure chaos.
>wanted to dayone Metaphor because "they didn't pull the Golden Royale Edition on SMT5 and SH2 there is a chance it's Persona-only now" >they pull the Golden Royale Edition shit on SMT5
Thank you Atlus
The guest art version? Probably not that high. So it depends on if they want to get Doi to pull one out his ass or not because it's unlikely they go for the older designs.
>smt korean game now lost MEDIA PROBABLY WORTH MILLIONS >UHM AKSHUALLY IT'S FAKE CUZ THE WAY THIS JOURNALIST IS SPEAKING IS UHM FAKE? AND UHMMM ITS JUST FAKE OKAY? JUST READ HIS TWITTER POST
YUP
/v/etard moment
classically cause Kaneko didn't know what to do with more popularly known myth figures both in terms of design and portrayal
look no further than zeus and how literally non of the designs he has is well liked or portrayed in a way people find interesting at least compered to all the other myth mainline deals with
Why don't you tho?
cause I am indeed infected with fatlus brain disease
Zeus would be cool if he wss completely made of marble instead of this weird I can be yuor angle or devil kamen rider W thing he has going on.
I'll allow him to keep the fang joker blade arms, because his signature atk looks really cool.
but there's almost no point to his design if not the "half and half" part. it's just acceptable. and that's the exact issue kaneko has with a lot of greek myth figures
Personally I feel the better way to represent that would be to have the marble crack and reveal the edgy bit as he took damage. I agree with that other anon, Doi needs to lay off hard kamen rider references and make designs that can stand on their own better.
right but then it's not a W reference and can't have that >layoff KR references
I like toku and agree with your assessment overall
like I think there's better avenues of reference to toku's design language he could take but part of me still likes the "he he W reference"
3 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that you think it's a W reference and not a reference to the fact that Zeus was a tyrant painted as good just shows that your brain is rotten.
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah right, I assure you I know all those commentary posts way better than you, it's still a W reference
>I agree with that other anon, Doi needs to lay off hard kamen rider references and make designs that can stand on their own better.
That being said I really like a lot of his new designs for V.
Hydra, aitvaras, kaya no hime, loup garou, fionn and the new imp/angel are very solid designs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I do think he has improved a lot for V, but man give me any of kaneko's angels over the doi angel any day. I really hate V's luci design as well. I shudder for the day they replace pixie. I'm sure it's coming eventually.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I honestly like doi angel, better than kaneko bondage angel.
Don't really care for kaneko's cardinal angels either.
>really enjoyed the demon fusing and combat of P5 >hyped for SMT V >play it >feels like it has 10% of the budget of P5 >slow, janky, ugly menus, world is uninspired, story and characters are especially weak
what a disappointment that was. hope this port adds a lot more flavor, but not holding my breath
But is it a real SMT game?
It's 3/4 of a SMT game. Parts of the game are rushed or unfinished
how do you know so much about an edition which was only discovered half an hour ago?
put 2 and 2 together. he worked on it
you are such a gay. everything in the game was paced fine, stratums are fine, difficulty was excellent. I'm sorry the game was focused on gameplay rather than the Persona you have been accustomed to (Persona is also a good series)
Gameplay wise it sucks ass are you kidding? Damage calc is fricked and casualized
please explain? I haven't played the game for 3 years and did a Staus/LUCK/VIT build and enjoyed it greatly. Only couldn't beat Shiva. How was the game ruined?
Level plays a big role in the damage formula sure but we still have people beating the game at low levels without fusions.
look man SMT having amazing gameplay doesn't excuse shitty writing. if it wanted to be exclusively focused on the gameplay then it shouldn't have included a story at all. stop defending garbage. this isn't a dick measuring contest with persona.
>Dark Souls has minimalist story telling
OMG MASTERPIECE
>SMTV has minimalist story telling
WTF WHY ARE THEY MAKING ME THINK ABOUT THE STORY WHY AREN'T THEY JUST SPOONFEEDING IT TO ME!?
Because SMTbabs don't actually play games, they watch cutscene compilations on YouTube.
>SMTbabs
Persona*
Listen up, play SMT4 and you will quickly realize how V storywise was a total frick all. Like zero
You can’t? Fine, look up both “SMTmovie” for both games and compare the timestamp between them.
SMTIV is garbage, easily the worst entry in mainline SMT. V might not be great in the story department, but it absolutely destroys 4 in gameplay, area design, and exploration.
Nothing in the game is unfinished. They took out a dog mount and a couple of sidequest demons. That's it, that's the only thing anyone has ever been able to find.
not really
tendie sisters...
it's not complete unless you can play it while taking a shit
Tao will win this time.
Wrong. It's our girl's time
This b***h should have been the Chaos rep. Not that lame four eyes homie whose sister fricks off to die before the game ends.
Wasn't moon boi neutral? I thought chink goddess was chaos?
I didnt like the glasses gay but did like how the Law reps were lunatics while the chaos reps were orderly. Sahori should have gotten her own route where you team up with Lahmu.
Chink Goddess and not-Raidou were the Neutral reps.
Glasses guy and the Prime Minister or whatever it was were clearly Chaos.
she is light chaos but Yakumo is neutral
according to official material
I love the subtle allignment nods, Abdiel becoming Dark Law and Lucifer becoming Light Neutral too
it doesn't really make full sense because the story and lore content is so thin and that's why I'm glad this game is coming out
aside from abdiel lucifer just fricking gives you two pieces of dialog
Lucifer is the one setting things in motion, hence why you hear his pre-programmed message from Aogami in the very beginning of the game. I think Lucy and YHVH's absence driving the narrative is one of the more interesting elements of V, I wouldn't change that bit.
true, but you hear nothing else about him during the game other than the fact that he killed god
like I think the overall idea of him is very cool. but he doesn't have a point to point story to arrive at the point we see him in the end game. really no ones does but abdiel
He flew the coop. His army is holed up in his old castle going Chaos Banzai! not realizing they've been abandoned for Neutral.
Why is Lucifer a giga Black person in IV tho? I still don't get it.
There's no real reason, it was kind of a soft reboot of 1 and 2's plot. In IVA they realized it was kind of stupid and they retconned that Lucifer as being a piece of Satan instead of the same Lucifer as the other games.
IV-A story is complete trash, the gameplay improvements are the only thing worth playing for.
>the gameplay improvements are the only thing worth playing for.
>the good gameplay is the only thing worth playing a video game for
Is this supposed to be bad?
>Is this supposed to be bad?
not at all but the person I replied to specifically mentioned the story, are you moronic?
Even more than V?
Yes. V is just like Nocturne, the story isn't bad or anything, there's just not a lot of it and you spend most of it wandering around lonely ruins. IVA has a big story and it's a big stinky poopy from trying to get that sweet persona cash.
Nah, traditionally Japanese nationalism has been Chaos in the series, so Tsukuyomi and his portable boypussy are Chaos.
>Nah, traditionally Japanese nationalism has been Chaos in the series
It was ONE time and it was the original
National defense divinities, does that ring a bell?
They were neutral bit chaos. For frick sake Masakado is THE neutral rep
Masakado isn't part of those. He was a rebel. He tried to overthrow the Japanese Emperor for the sake of the people.
For example in Nocturne the Four Heavenly Kings straight up keep him sealed since him being released would upset the status quo again.
Status quo is literally the opposite of chaos anon
>For example in Nocturne the Four Heavenly Kings straight up keep him sealed since him being released would upset the status quo again.
That's in SMT1 too SMT2 has you collect his corpse parts but I don't think they were involved there
They were literally helping with the whole red pills situation. Working hand in hand with takaya. Masakado had become the dome years before that.
>They were literally helping with the whole red pills situation. Working hand in hand with takaya.
From what I remember it was against their wills, because takaya had their medium or some shit and unlike masakado theirs didn't come with any lock
how did you miss the detail about them being enslaved and hating the fact that they work for Tayama all of them straight up fricking thank you for killing them
Masakado isn't aligned with any of those.
He's a lone wolf pure Neutral motherfricker whose legend/ divinity is based on him giving up everything for the sake of Japan's people.
The traditional nationalistic Japanese gods are usually a lot further down the Chaos route, in a lot of the games they are straight up antagonistic to him.
Kunitsu (Earthly Gods) generally Chaos, Amatsu (Heavenly Gods) more Law. It's not fully set in stone though. Susano-o's technically Amatsu but he's Chaos.
Who's this again? I swear this scenario was such a mess I don't remember shit. Feels like a bunch of unrelated short stories glued together.
Chick who got overtaken by her counterpart demon in chapter 2 did a school shooting then tentacle stabbed the heroine after her boss fight.
>Rumors of a “Complete Edition” surfaced in June 2023
Rumors surfaced before it even released, it's expected from every Fatlus game at this point.
>Vegneance
don't care. might be cheesy but I like it.
>Vegneance
> Hanababo Posting
WHAT YEAR IS IT
but will it release on pc
no
Very likely since even Persona isn't held hostage anymore.
God I hope. Tried emulating it yesterday and the game is unstable as frick.
I had no problems with it on Ryujinx.
I'm burnt out after trying to get it to work on Yuzu (yeah, yeah, it emulated BotW beautifully for me though and that's my only experience with Switch emulation) but I might try once I'm less pissed.
It ran fine on both within a week of it coming out. You're doing something wrong.
It took over a year for Ryujinx to be updated with a fix for the text box transitions.
Brother, I played it on release on Yuzu and there were graphical glitches everywhere and you couldn't unlock the FPS without the game shitting itself. After it crashed THREE TIMES after starting combat around 10 or so times yesterday I completely gave up. No way I'm playing at 30FPS.
PEBKAC
PEBKAC
God the world must be such a mysterious and wonderful place for someone as dumb as you
I almost envy morons such as yourself
Yuzu for me had graphical messes, Ryujinx didn't seem to. I could probably fix said issues but Ryujinx mostly had none and ran the game at 60 with the other mod enhancement shit so I stuck with it. I use AMD if that matters
I played it on RyujinX on release and it was largely fine. Yuzu had some texture issues for me I remember.
There some minor issues on RyujinX but they patched them pretty quickly, ended up running much better than on Switch after a few days
I played through the true ending on ryujinx about 2 years ago with no bugs that I could recognize.
It Will be a Macintosh exclusive
Nintendo staff is directly involved in the localization, but it has never stopped PC/mobile ports before.
It's a hurdle for PlayStation/Xbox ones except when the publisher pays a lot of money and is ready to forgo future similar arrangements with Nintendo, but it happened with The Wonderful 101. Technically they can still launch them without the localization like with Dragon Quest 7 mobile which was Japan-only.
And again, Nintendo can't afford to piss off Atlus too much after what happened with Tokyo Mirage Sessions (shifting blame to Atlus for Treehouse localization edits and impacting hype about Persona 5 that had far heavier content that was cut than TMS) or Shin Megami Tensei 4 (handled by Nintendo of Europe for 5 languages, but delayed indefinitively and cancelled. Atlus released their inhouse translation digitally only for Europe later on) and really wanted to secure the release of that temporary exclusive they showed in the Switch launch trailers without Atlus suddenly deciding a localization is unprofitable after a visit by some Sony executive (like with the mysterious cancellation of Genshin Impact on Switch) so they had to step in.
>handled by Nintendo of Europe for 5 languages, but delayed indefinitively and cancelled. Atlus released their inhouse translation digitally only for Europe later on
do you have any sources for that?
also how likely do you think it is for this new game and other upcoming mainline games to be nintendo exclusive?
Almost all of his post is bullshit dude. I mean, the thinks that Nintendo localisation has never gotten in the way of a port when it's usually the only example of localisation getting in the way and then he goes on to act like w101 was just a case of localisation when they actually owned it at one point.
it seemed like half truth so I got curious. there never was an explanation why IV didn't get a physical release in euro regions. or that
>Atlus suddenly deciding a localization is unprofitable after a visit by some Sony executive
did sony care about mainline that much in 2016, highly doubt so.
but then again it's kinda true? certainly the case for bravely default 2 or octopath traveler, iirc both of those games got localization help from nintendo and a PC port like a year later
Probably. Even if it doesn't switch is piss easy to emulate anyway.
Wasn't there a leak a few months ago that suggested IV, Apocalypse and V were getting Playstation and PC ports?
That was apparently fake. It had a reveal date on it and they weren't announced at that date.
That was apparently fake. It had a reveal date on it and they weren't announced at that date.
Best it doesn't so Denuvo doesn't get its claw on it
More than likely, yeah.
Persona is released on PC these days, Soul Hackers 2 was released on PC too, and the SMT Nocturne remaster also got ported.
Iirc, there were mentions to Steam in the Switch version's files and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too, so we knew it was going to happen sooner or later.
This SMTVV is just a modern platform port with all DLCs and potentially some story changes just like Nocturne's own.
>Iirc, there were mentions to Steam in the Switch version's files and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too, so we knew it was going to happen sooner or later.
That means nothing, "Steam mentions" were generic UE configuration files that were left over, and "NVIDIA leak" was developers using PC to test the game prior to release.
nta but waiting worked for ratchet and clank for me
>That means nothing, "Steam mentions" were generic UE configuration files that were left over, and "NVIDIA leak" was developers using PC to test the game prior to release.
Fair.
Common sense still dictates that SMTV will make its way to PC natively in due time just like Persona, Nocturne and Soulless Hacks did.
And well, if it doesn't it's not the end of the world. The game works fine on Ryujinx.
That's not common sense that's just what you want.
>That's not common sense
Yes, it is.
If they brought their other popular series and entries to PC, common sense dictate they will bring this one too. It's very simple logic.
Nocturne IS an SMT game btw, I'm not sure if you're aware of that. It's literally SMT3. SMTV = SMT5.
>that's just what you want.
Not "just", but I would definitely take a PC port nonetheless.
It'll most likely release on PC, yeah.
>and SMTV was mentioned in the NVIDIA leak too
I wouldn't use that as definitive proof given that a bunch of Nintendo games and games like Bayonetta 3 were also in the leak.
Frick man, it needs to be ported everywhere pronto.
But this is Atlus we’re talking about. Took them over 10 years to port Persona 4 like 5 years after P5 was popular and they haven’t ported the expensive DS & 3DS either now that eShop is dead.
I’m hoping they realise porting a game like this will do well considering how many MegaTen fans there are outside Nintendo platforms. FFS
One of my fav but most moronic devs out there.
>considering how many MegaTen fans there are outside Nintendo platforms. FFS
There's pretty much none. It's just persona fans outside that sphere and they're in the PlayStation sphere.
Nocturne is the only mainline game that didn't debut on a Nintendo console.
There’s more to SMT than mainline. The amount of non-mainline titles still stuck on other platforms is a lot though.
Call me when they drop the turn cringed gameplay and make it a real game with action combat.
why would that be the subtitle?
Brought to you by the letter V and the number 5.
Best song from V? Not this but the level up theme rules
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I liked how a lot of the demon's animations synced up with this one
Still torn between that and Demi
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It's obviously this one, most of the best moments happened to it. Humans, Demons, And...
Especially when 1:08 hits aaaaa
Picture this anon. You're going through the area right before the first time you fight the werewolf guy. You pick up a soul (or whatever) that lets you gain the buffed electric attack RUINOUS THUNDER, your very first "heavy" attack of any kind. You're itching to try it out, when suddenly there's a boss fight!
This music starts playing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ2alndqSn0
It's weirdly calm at first but you queue up your sick new lightning attack, calling it down from the sky. Just as it lands, 0:12 starts.
It felt like I directed my own cutscene and it's basically the only thing I remember from playing it. Regrettably I think he was immune to the attack but it was still fricking epic.
This theme was so fricking good. Reminds me how good it felt to fight fricking Eligor, who's super early boss.
Best Overworld theme:
too bad the area this played in is a bit small so your through it quickly.
Songs to frick hot world of shadow mommies to.
Since this anon
Posted it already I am gonna say this one.
Have been in love with that intro since the reveal trailer.
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This stupid fricking theme, anon.
I too loved it since i heard it all the way back in the 20th anniversary with all the mainline games (remined that NINE is mainline). I waited to whole fricking game to jear and when i recognized the melody at the fricking credits, i unironically basedfaced. God the part with the bells is gorgeous.
I would just sit there and let this play
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Surprised this hasn’t been posted yet. Love Da’at Konan too
should be obvious
yeah this was the perfect fit for the superboss. and it sounds indian enough too.
the entire soundtrack works so well with the game I just want more music from this new game
had to stop playing when i first heard this, this song was too fricking awesome to just continue. https://youtu.be/K3YDYZhLOtc?si=21CWkL2RiRDWjtRX
maybe it's a new game like SMT4 apocalypses
Honestly that would be cool.
Can you spend 1 second to read beyond the game's title? It literally says "a complete edition with improvements and additional content". It is SMTV but improved, not the SMT5 equivalent of SMT4A.
Honestly I'd pay just for an alternate MC-costume. I can't stand the troony-style of the character. A costume with either shorter hair or more baggy clothes would justify a purchase for me.
rent free
this mod made it playable
>:3
Still looks like a girl
YOUNG MAN
It's hotter when he calls him Shonen.
>more baggy clothes
Damn, you can smell the fat from here...
Agreed. Seriously, can't believe Atlus caved and took troony shit in mind like Christianity and Hinduism when writing a story about someone ascending to godhood. Also can't believe trannies invented time travel so they can forced Atlus to make pic related smhtbhfamalam
Ardha was so fricking lame-looking. I always hated it. It looks so boring, bland.
honestly seraph looks like shit
Cope all you want the protag looks goofy and gay as hell
none of this doomposting posers played that game, anon
more like
Shit Megami Tensei
No PC port no buy
Learn to emulate
I dunno what they could possible add or change to make me wanna play this again
Make the dungeons better and I'd replay it
Remove the demon castle and I'd replay the game many times, stories ass, but the gameplay's good
for Switch 2 I guess
ENTER
it's SMT, you should be able to recruit both V and Urizen to fuse them together into Vergil
Cleo already made the game complete
>Cleo AND Nuwa
>in one game
jesus
INDIVIDUALLY
I am going to wait and see, because it could easily be nothing about it, also "vengeance" sounds fricking stupid.
korea ratings are usually confirmed real
of course not, newBlack person, lurk moar frick outta here.
I'd rather buy smt5 again than persona 3 reload
Same
atlus leaks?
fake and gay as usual
fujosisters WON
>fujo ending
Do it Atlus you cowards.
>monkey paw
>its just the normal game with all DLC
>good timeline
>its the normal game with a completely different story
>>its just the normal game with all DLC
That's just the deluxe version
Best timeline is it's the universe you made in the true ending
SMTV: Rising Revengeance when?
seems legit
>trust me bro
he posted the screenshot of the page's content
debunk it; take your time
IT'S FRICKING OVER FOR THAT TRANS ANON
morons
Cool scribbles.
First sentence
>기존의 진 여신전생5에 일부콘텐츠가 추가되고 개선된 완전판 롤플레잉 게임
>A complete version featuring content additions and enhancements to the existing SMT5 RPG game.
>do we even know the platforms?
No.
I wasn't doubting whether the picture was real.
I earnestly meant that the scribbles were cool
do we even know the platforms? i just don't give a frick about nothing else.
we've known since someone datamined the original upon release and it had playstation and pc files
>and it had playstation
The PlayStation ones specifically were removed by the way.
I don't speak Korean aside from ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
thats literally the entry for smt5 with vengeance written on the side
korean box for SMTV is written out like 5
this is literally the entry for SMT5
>source Ruliweb
kek, lol, lmao even
I am amazed how moronic journos are
he didn't screenshot it, so he took the screenshot from ruliweb:
anon, the source on the article is literally ruliweb and not the ratings website, do you really think a journo can even navigate the korean ratings site?
is you hover over "rated" on the article there's the link for where the rating was
also, it's a weeb gaming news site so he probably knows
jesus christ zoomers are moronic, go to the source website and look at what the website is called
this is the source for me
https://www.grac.or.kr/Statistics/Popup/Pop_ReasonInfo.aspx?fc6aef0f5f448ce085dbe5cedda63c14a6c813a6a053e8e5ec12581d53453bb0
https://www.grac.or.kr being the korean esrb website
How are you getting that as a source when nothing links to it?
here
I play that
Fake. Koreans can't into Fs. Should have been Paggot Edition.
What does the man running from arrows mean?
cyberbullying
isnt the thing in the game just bullying?
> Sexual depictions?
> Action?
> Stress?
> Problematic speech?
> Drugs?
> Crimes?
> What's that??? Gambling?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>trusting Salty Romano
lol
Sal Romano would never take advantage of our innate gullibility
>Saw it myself
I mean yeah they do have a grudge against nintendo but surely they wouldn't lie about this
They?
Sal Romano is a Sonygay who likes to make constant excuses for Nintendo selling better than Sony
Sal Romano is a israelite?
Not sure, he's high up a journalism place so high chance
I don't speak schizo, what the frick are you talking about?
KWAB
>Vengeance
Aogami! Turn off my sissy inhibitor!!!
Are they going to add an actual story this time?
No this is SMT.
>What is SMT4?
an anomaly
the dark souls of persona
that game's story was blessed with kaneko's notes
that will never happen again
SMT4 has a godawful story. Checks out since Kaneko was never a writer.
>SMT4 has a godawful story.
And it's still better than most SMT game stories. Let's not kid ourselves. SMT3's story sucks in comparison to 4's. 3 does other things better, but story isn't one of them.
>Walter's entire character arc
>Jonathan's entire character arc
>Isabeau's entire character arc
lol
The best written parts were fricking random npc dialogues because they weren't constrained to moronic script.
tbf they didn't adapt everything from kaneko's notes and had to skip or change some parts
Kaneko's notes were basically about having the same game twice, first as Counter-Demon Force, then as their reincarnations as Samurai. Atlus wasn't exactly in position to fund two full games at the time, and it does work better for the story if CDF part is entirely relegated to flashbacks, since it builds mystery. But that's basically it, there were so many characters that ended up doing literally nothing, like Skins and Fujiwara. Hikaru and Lilith were also complete ass. So yes, the best part is just traveling around and talking to NPCs, it gives you an illusion of a fuller game.
pretty sure there are more SMT with story than isnt
>SMT 2, 4, if : have story
>SMT 1, 3 : can be considered it doesnt
SMT 1, 3, and 5 have the best stories. It’s simple they don’t beat your head with pointless exposition. You can really filter people by this. I’d gladly take another SMTV over pos SMTIV or worse SMTIV Apocalypse. The latter has the worst story in the series.
I'd say NINE has the best story, but far and away some of the worst gameplay of not just the franchise, but RPGs in general. It's not the absolute worst but it's pretty far down there.
Just let me keep Tae and all your offenses will be forgiven
FINALLY
smt5 maniax has been one of my most wanted games since finishing it. love that game so much.
cool are they going to fix how there's no story and no characters and no dungeons and the gameplay sucks and all the bosses are the same and the game runs like shit and the pacing sucks and the music sucks and there's zero replayability
>Music sucks
moron
they can't keep getting away with it
Watch it being released on everything but Switch because of fricking course is ATLUS.
I honestly wish they'd go out of business.
That would be hilarious
Has a enhanced rerelease of any game ever released on everything but the original platform (or platform family when applicable)? I can't think of any examples. I have to imagine it would release on Switch (2) at minimum.
P5 Royal
Catherine Fullbody (sort of)
P5R was on the PS4 just like the original, and Catherine Fullbody was released on the same platform family (because obviously they aren't going to release it as a fricking PS3 game in 2019).
If P5R was release on the Switch, Xbox, and PC, but NOT the PS4 or PS5, then it would have been an example of what I am asking for.
Honestly would make sense. They can double dip with current gen. Then triple dip when Switch 2 launches
It'll be on Switch. If it's close enough to be rated, it could even be revealed during the partner direct, then when the Switch 2 gets released next year, they'll release it on there with the wave of other ports they'll have.
god i hope it gets announced soon, Frick i want it so badddddd, i want a better smt5,,,,,,,,,, AHHHHH
That would suck, it can probably be a switch 2 release and if it's on the ps4 i will buy there because i don't want to buy a PS5 frick that.
I would laugh so fricking hard.
They'll release it on PS5 and Steam but no on Shitch.
The seething on Gankerintendo will be fantastic. Then it will be a launch title on switch 2 after all the crying.
They'll call it a HD remake or "Gold Version" just to piss of snoy customers.
>PS5 and pc
I don't mimd it getting ported, but atleast port it over to ps4.
Your console is old and outdated bloodborne machine, frick off gramps.
Not him, but if it gets a Switch version, might as well make a PS4 version.
how about they skip both versions and just release it for platforms it won't run like utter shit
Because it would sell less. Especially in Japan.
It will get a switch 2 version if any which will out perform ps4.
I have a PS4 and switch so I get that other anon. I'm not buying that game again if it's just all the DLC though, at least add new shit to it. Also frick buying a PS5 just for those games.
True ATLUS moronation would be making it an xbox exclusive.
Pretty sure that would just be the death of SMT then and there. Time and time again we've seen that there's little audience for megaten in general on any other platforms.
Just look at how hard the ps1 and 2 megaten games flopped other than Persona. Then nocturne was a colossal failure on ps4.
Shit like this is why I have never bought an Atlus game until years later.
Now, I did buy P5 at launch, but that was because I was assuming they'd go the DLC route.
Won't make that mistake again. I'm skipping Metaphor: ReFantazio for at least 3 years.
yeah if capcom can get it right with monhun there's no way i'm letting atlus get away with this shit. p5 was their last game i ever bought
Hope my homie Ichiro is back with a cooler Nahobino form, same for glasses girl and Khonsu
Why are Atlusgays so willing to buy the same shit for the same price again but with a little more content?
I always just wait for the rerelease in the first place
you missed out on Strange Journey at launch? you poor fricker..
nah that was before i got into the habit
I hope they completely removed all story content so tell me a story kiddies melt down further.
I just wanna run in sand all day!
Kino.
Looking forward to it.
They need to add based Dagda.. i cant believe he wasnt a demon like several others from Apocalypse.
I'd buy the game again IF they add a bunch of new demons, otherwise no thanks!
Dagda would be cool, but it would kind of ruin what he was trying to do if they brought him back.
Just going to admit this shit was unfinished eh?
They already admitted it was unfinished before it even came out.
They scrapped their plans and scaled down like 5 fricking times before quickly rushing it out, they were never anything but open about that.
There's entire interviews about all the content they wanted to include but couldn't because of money and time constraints.
they never outright said it was not finished. they ( and by they I mostly mean Doi cause who else talked about V) mostly said vague sugercoated stuff about the game's content or better said lack of content, along with "we tried our best" and I'm sure they did. it's pretty clear the issues that game has was mostly managerial and higher up meddling than anything else
people only figured out what he meant way after the game came out.
I'm not sure how much a rerelease can fix it.
Mom said it's my turn to be the superboss.
If anything it's going to be Persona 5 or Soul Hackers 2 related.
>Persona 5
There is no way.
>Soul Hackers 2
Might be a superboss, but if so, I doubt Ringo would be the only one.
I want it to be Alex just for the massive seething it would cause.
I want this to happen just so I can watch the people who picked the cringe friendship ending seethe.
Besides Satan, what Chaos fan favorite demons are missing from the roster?
But Satan is Law in SMT since he's based on the Book of Job's Ha-Satan. The only time he was ever Chaos was Devil Survivor 2 which in generally had some weird placements for some demons.
tbh 1 not 2 anon. 2 had Alice as the superboss
Nope. He was in tbh 2 too, he just had no plot involvement in that game
>Anti-Almighty
Play tbh they're good games.
Absolute travesty that it took untill SMT V for your demon's race to matter during gameplay and it is still not as well done as in tbh.
Why was the story and world design in 5 so shit? Everything else was good, so what the frick went wrong in those 2 departments?
ill play it on anything other than the switch,the game feels like it's actively trying to kill itself on the switch even when docked
So where are the Raiden memes?
Will they integrate the fiend dlc as that shit clearly was intended?
Into the game as free content? Yes.
Into the story? No.
When I played the DLC it definitely felt like this was supposed to something that ran parallel as the main side quest to the game.
What are you talking about? It was hamfisted as shit and was literal teleport points next to save points. It was unnecessary and only served as fanservice.
They give Demi-Fiend a whole ass temple for you to go to and fight him.
Pretty funny that Atlus is one of the few companies that can get away with reselling games that have few changes.
almost every company does this and gets away with it
Game freak also did that a few generations ago with third versions.
SE was denied to release the final mix versions of kh in the west because it was so similar to the original versions
But there is a Fin-
>Hold the frick on...
https://kingdomhearts.fandom.com/es/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Final_Mix
https://kingdomhearts.fandom.com/es/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_HD_1.5_ReMIX
Holy kek
the shin megmai were the friends we made along the way
I don't remember shit about the last 40% of the game before doing post game content. A bunch of stupid shit happens then their was an anticlimactic easy as shit final boss I legitimately don't remember then it just... Ends
All I remember is Lucifer having merged with YHVH to become a Nahobeaner and killing the Great Will and then staging everything that happened in the game so someone else could kill him or some bullshit
I don't remembered that but I believe it. Frick sake V sucked. 1-3 are all extremely minimalist and still manage to be inpactful. Guess that's what happens when you can your director leaves through development
Daji and Wukong hopefully added kinda weird some of the Chinese demons didn’t have any thoughts about Nuwa running around too but the whole story is a mess anyways.
Tadano superboss
>I'll wait a bit, surely there will be a PC version
>no? oh well guess I'll just emulate it lat--
>SMTV COMPLETE EDITION REPUTABLE CHINESE LEAK
>back to waiting then
>...
>nothing? I really should just emulate it at this p--
>SHIN MEGAMAN TENCENT V: REVENGEANCE
please
Complete edition leaks so far were all a scam since they're just trying to guess the general Atlus timeframe for Maniax edition. Even Nvidia shit that people still clutch to means nothing since it only meant that Atlus developers ran SMT V on PC during development (no shit, they even show it in developer interviews). This is the only legit leak and we're basically few days away from the official reveal.
Will Amaterasu show up this time? She was pretty much ignored while her brothers Susanoo and Tsukuyomi were in the game.
I still theorize Tao in an early version was supposed to be Amaterasu, but they scrapped that idea and didn't change Tao's 1st goddess form to accommodate the new script
I want to see doi susanoo. femboy doesn't count
Apparently, Tao was Amaterasu, or at least that's what the idea was. In the end, it never really amounted to anything and she was just a random unnamed being who possessed Tao or whatever.
Tao was a completely new God and she had a name, I don't remember it though. She was the Shin Megami
Didn't a P3 reload dlc also leak recently?
The Answer: Pay up 30 usd goy edition
is this for real? I loved V a lot tbh. Might as well replay it.
might wanna hold off on that til the announcement this week. could be shadow dropped.
>could be shadow dropped.
Atlus has never done this. And you know they are going to have an expensive physical edition to launch with it.
Maybe, but then again Atlus has never done post-launch DLC before and they're doing so with P3's The Answer this year. Anything could happen at this point.
>Atlus has never done post-launch DLC
SMT4.
That was day 1 iirc.
How about you spend 10 seconds checking before you post. No, it wasn't Day 1.
I'm looking at the wiki and there's 0 info on it. Care to provide a link?
https://www.giantbomb.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv/3030-31809/dlc/
The DLC was release over time, including the story DLC.
I see. Well then this makes The Answer the 2nd time they're doing post-launch dlc then, since they've been doing exclusively day 1 for the past 10 years.
My point is that they have done non-Day1 DLC before. They NEVER done a shadow drop. And again, they is no way they are going to forgo the money they can rake in for special physical editions.
I'm looking at the wiki and there's 0 info on it. Care to provide a link?
How did my message get posted twice? How did it even allow that?
How about you spend 10 seconds checking before you post. No, it wasn't Day 1.
SMT4 had like a weekly release schedule for the DLC fights if I remember correctly.
It definitely wasn't Day 1.
Okay so it was a staggered day 1 release rofl it's basically the exact same thing
they did it with p4g on steam, but since that success, i doubt they will do any future shadowdrops since they are comfortsble with multiplat releases.
>tfw replaying Nocturne
>replaying makes me want to replay V.
>now this announcement
Neat
Nanopedo must be seething
>just started SMTV a few days ago
having just done a replay of it some 6 months ago i am more than happy to play it again in the next few months. it's a game so good and so gameplay based that it can't really be spoiled by one playthrough imo. i would continue if i was you.
Demonic foursome with Tao, Idunn and Demeter.
No Alice?
All they need to do is remove damage scaling with level and I preorder.
More remake from Atlus? Ewwww
It seems to just be a re-release.
I like how there's no opposition to this being ported unlike persona 5.
Because SMTV is Switch exclusive while barely even running on that piece of shit.
I played the entire game just fine on my switch anon.
I played it on Switch too. There's multiple dungeons that run at single digit FPS.
The final one is especially bad. All those floating cubes and shit absolutely destroy the Switch. It's ridiculous.
Why oppose it?
What do you mean? What opposition was with Persona 5? I don't follow mental illness threads.
Mostly just the usual Eric idiocy.
He kept spamming "You'll never see it coming, to Shitch" threads.
All those multiplat SMT V """""leaks""""" just added to it: "SMT V is coming to Playstation, P5 on Shitch never ever"
Oh it wasn't just Ericnir was it just being ported to the switch. Most PlayStation players were opposed to the idea of persona 5 being ported in general.
Probably because nobody that actually likes SMT wants V to be stuck on the Switch
Oh look! Fatlus is changing money for updates! Again!
Always has been
Fricking Atlus is back with a new scam. How did they keep get away with this shit?
>SMT V
>Korea
Is this just their version since Yakumo looked too similar to Raidou and Koreans still seethe about Imperial Japan's attire?
moron
its not even real, the source is literally the korean equivalent to resetera
>the source is literally the korean equivalent to resetera
I didn't know Resetera was the ESRB
I played until I entered the 2nd zone. Do new SMT versions change a lot of stuff from the base game like the persona ones do or will I basically get the same experience?
This is the first time an SMT game has gotten something like this in 20 years, who the frick knows
Bro, your Strange Journey?
Well it can go two routes.
Either it goes IV:Apocalypse route where we get a sequel in the same with a new protag and story, but with the same setting and map.
Or it goes the maniax/redux route same game with new ending and story content.
Both rebalance the game and mechanics while adding in new demons.
If what the OP's screenshot said is true then it's just a complete edition with all the DLC and some new things and fixes.
Gay not even a new labyrinth of amala or womb of grief?
Stuff like that could be in there. It did say there would be additions of some kind.
Would you say they generally rebalance the game to be easier? If i'm not going to get something close to the original experience I'll just suck it up and deal with playing it on the switch first
Toss up really.
Never played original nocturne since it was nip only, but I can imagine the additional exp youbget from going through the new bonus dungeons not to mention the fiends you can fuse and dante+uber pixie which you get for free making the msin game easier.
But the new dungeon and new final boss is harder than anything you encounter in the main game.
Same goes to redux to a somewhat lesser extend.
IV:A on the other hand is way harder and better balanced than IV.
For me, its getting to yhvh universe and having to fight hordes of metatrons.
For me it was general grievous vishnu.
It's my favorite Shin Megami Tensei, no random encounters, good story, but no, i will not buy it again.
For the same reason i'm not buying Persona 3 Reloaded. It's going to be another Royal edition very soon.
What vengeance? I don't remember anything resemble vengeance plotline at all in the story.
that didn't stop atlus from adding the persona girl to strange journey
>got to the angel stronghold at the diet building a few days ago
>this happens
I guess I'll just wait for this one.
It's a game with multiple endings bro, soldier on
Can i get a definitive SMT 1, 2 and If remaster done in the etrian HD engine that combines all cool stuff from each version like the small voice acting, vision cutscenes and psx ost into a single game in english?
oh we get it, here's a Persona 4 Remake just like you asked!
According to le ATLUS leaker there's supposed to be a PS2 remaster sometime soon, probably Raidou as the Raidou devs are working on an unannounced title. Partner Showcase is also soon. Wishful thinking but Nocturne HD and V were shown in one showcase back then, also known as the worst Direct ever.
Even if this is fake, something SMTV is coming at some point, sooner or later.
>According to le ATLUS leaker there's supposed to be a PS2 remaster sometime soon, probably Raidou
Nah, Raidou needs a full remake, specially the first one which is clunky as shit.
If they intend to remaster a game, it's gonna be DDS.
>it's gonna be DDS.
You will get a remake with all the VAs replaced with troons and you will like it.
>Nah, Raidou needs a full remake, specially the first one which is clunky as shit.
I do agree, I hope to frick it's a remake and not just a remaster, but it's also ATLUS
I doubt it would be DDS but that game was good too
>According to le ATLUS leaker there's supposed to be a PS2 remaster sometime soon
God, being a supposed ""leaker"" is so fricking easy these days.
That's about as novel as claiming "atlus are probably going to make a persona 6, some year"
>atlus are probably going to make a persona 6, some year
actually they specifically said 2025.
>(Update 1:54 a.m.:The rating has been removed.)
fake as Sleepy Joe's vote count!
I loved SMT V brahs even though lucifer looks like a moronic transformer at the end of the game. Law is the best route aside from True Neutral in V cause Dazai starts teleporting around like a gamer because he got archangel pussy
>Law is the best route aside
Yes, I agre-
>cause Dazai starts teleporting around like a gamer because he got archangel pussy
...That's a very shallow reason for like that route.
God I hope I can play this on my deck
Anon, that's not the source.
Holy shit, why was this exclusive to the Switch for so long? lol
Unlike Persona there's almost no audience for SMT on other platforms.
they haven't even frickin tried to see if that's true
guarantee the game does well on steam
Nocturne is a playstation game and the remaster sold about the same on switch and playstation.
>and the remaster sold about the same on switch and playstation.
The switch version outsold the PlayStation anon, by quite a significant amount. It wasn't close at all.
This reminds me I bought nocturne for my PS4 and never played it... Should have just bought for my switch instead
God damn it, I just played this game.
That's ok anon. Everyone here already did
>another port beggar thread
Kek! Is this the so called PC master race?
snoys are the port beggers, pcgays already emulated thsi game
port beggar thread
?
It's rather a news article thread.
>Kek! Is this the so called PC master race?
No, we finished SMTV long ago.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=smtv+4k+60+fps
>PC keks love Nintendo so much they will do anything to play Nintendo games
The game was made by ATLUS and it was not made available on PC.
I like Shin Megami Tensei, so why would I not play a game I have access to, of a series that I'm into?
You're looking at this from the wrong angle, buddy.
A rather pathetic life you must lead to care about console wars tbh. Very sad to see, but a common sight in this board.
Just ignore sonygays anon. They genuinely don't understand what it means to like games and not platforms
It’ll be Sahori’s game
It'll be Sahori's shame.
Because they still will shaft her yet again
🙁
i want to be sahori's game
yeah her ousting from the plot so early on was a detriment in the original. lahmu needs to survive the boss fight and her role needs expansion for sure
To be honest I would like to see more beanos and an all out battle royale against the other factions.
SMT V was so close to my dream SMT plotwise.
A war between different factions of gods and their knowledge bearers and you having to pick a side and fight them in their own domain which are all dungeons based on their mythological hangout.
Like having to climb mount olympus to fight Zeus or having to storm valhalla to punch odin.
>yfw it's not a free update for people who already own the game
Atlus are disgusting fricking israelites
you only get burned by it once. then you learn to wait. plus PC players got smt 5 for free anyway. I enjoyed the game so much i will gladly pay for a steam release.
It’ll be Goko’s game
Amanozako's game
An anon after my own heart.
damn and I was gonna get V.
Was there ever a time when Atlus is NOT a israelite? I can't think of any, can you?
Before dlc became a thing.
What are you talking about? They've been israeli for decades, well before DLC became a trend.
Nocturne was re-released twice.
Persona 3 was re-released too.
Do you even know how many ports of SMT1 there are broski?
Rereleasing was the only way to update a game before dlc anon.
I know. So what though. Do you think that excuses the pricing of those re-releases? Because it doesn't.
>pricing of those re-releases
They weren't sold at full price anon.
>Do you even know how many ports of SMT1 there are broski?
As an smt 1 fan not enough, my boy
The israelitetlus is a DNA. You can't just not be a israelite.
>Atlus is NOT a israelite?
Oxymoron
Atlus will never not be a israelite.
>Atlus are the most israeli devs in japan
>The israeli god is the big bad of their games
how does that work?
They hate their god?
Just frick my shit up, bros, why, I don't want to have to buy it again
Although I might do it if it gets ported to xbox because I hate the frame rate drops and all the texture popping of the switch version
>I hate the frame rate drops and all the texture popping of the switch version
this is called game having a soul
Why do you guys hate Atlus so much? Atlus-senpai did nothing wrong.
They got too big for their britches. Niche developers belong to us, they should never try to go beyond us or they will face the wrath of Ganker
Just put SMT IV on PC
did someone say atlus israelite
Ok, as a person who bought this on day 1, I am kinda mad.
Because there is no port if DDS 1 and 2
You are mad that they did the thing they have done for literally every single game since Nocturne? Even SMT4A was going to be another one, but they eventually changed their mind and spun it off into something else.
How can they do that to SMT 4? Disgusting.
Liar, smt IVA was gonna be a dlc but they made it into a game
The frick are you talking about dumbass, it was Maniax edition of IV with a team of fresh hired developers for training them until they had enough ideas to warrant making it a separate game.
Holy fricking liar or absolute delusional
NTA but you may tongue my anus.
https://www-famitsu-com.translate.goog/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=97867&_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
You absolute moron. That's says a higher up suggested a maniax update but they went with a sequel instead.
Not admitting when one is wrong is a bad personality trait. You are being deliberately dishonest to avoid admitting that you were in the false.
So they considered a Maniax version, but didn't. And they didn't even consider making it as a DLC. So I think he was more right then you.
>So they considered a Maniax version, but didn't.
No.
A higher up SUGGESTED it and the dev team went with a sequel. It was never an enhanced game and it was never DLC.
That is what this
is saying.
You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
>higher ups suggest Maniax Expansion
>plan it out
>decide to make a fully new game instead
It started as an enhanced edition and then became a stand-alone game. Simple as.
>>plan it out
This didn't happen. They were given the opportunity to make a new 4 game, a higher up suggested 4 maniax, the dev team made an outright sequel instead.
That's it and it's exactly what your image says.
I think they're under the assumption that a suggestion means development.
Original posted said that it was supposed to be Maniax but then became it's own game. And that's exactly what happened. Anyway this is turning into one of the 八苦 so cya.
Anon, one person suggesting 4 maniax doesn't mean it was going to be 4 maniax. How are you not getting this yet?
>Original posted said that it was supposed to be Maniax but then became it's own game. And that's exactly what happened
NTA but you're seeing it as
>lets make a new 4 game
>why don't you make an enhanced version like maniax
>yeah sure
>you know this would make a better sequel so let's do that
When its
>lets make a new 4 game
>why don't you make an enhanced version like maniax
>no I think we'll make a sequel instead
The former means it was maniax at one point the latter doesn't and that's the scenario that actually happened.
>You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
but it is, and I'm not that person. How isn't it?
>A higher up SUGGESTED it
Which means it was something that they considered. For them to have rejected it, it had to be suggested, then considered, and then deemed not the right choice. Which is more than you can say about the idea that the game was originally DLC turned into a game.
>You sound like that person who thinks that Strange Journey is mainline.
Because it is.
https://shin-megamitensei.jp/history/
It's not
>https://personacentral.com/retronauts-smt-strange-journey-redux-developer-interview/
>Strange Journey was thought of as a spin-off when it was originally being developed, and the quality of the title had marketing suggest that it should be labeled “Shin Megami Tensei IV.” Ishida rejected this suggestion, however, believing it to be best to have it stand on its own as a spin-off.
Your link also has if... and Nine which are also spin offs.
If and Nine are both mainline.
If was literally named If after "what if". It's a spin off whether you like it or not.
>if
>mainline
Are you moronic?
it's mainline it's not numbered mainline or as the japs call it ナンベリング
you are reaching critical levels of stupidity, anon, continuing further may lock your brain alignment into the moron route, do you wish to continue to walk this path and face its hardships?
b***h fricking read the wiki page
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A5%B3%E7%A5%9E%E8%BB%A2%E7%94%9F
Yeah because Wikipedia pages are known for their accuracy.
All this just because you don't want to accept that SJ is a spin off, something the creator of the game confirmed.
>using wikipedia as the source
ngmi
do you truly wish to build a world without intelligence, anon? Is this really the path you want to take?
Certified spin off on your own link.
did you just cut the part where it's a subsect of 真・女神転生シリーズ
>subsect
It's almost as if they're shin megami tense spin offs.
spin off not in the way you mean it in the same lane as persona. but yes. supplementary material to mainline smt, non numbered mainline. you don't see debisama in this list. as long as you don't make that distiction like most japs do you will remain confused.
>he's not pretending
It's boxgay, what did you expect
Then it's not mainline you dumbass.
here's how it went
>so lets do something with Navarre
>no you can't do anything with him unless you make him a joke character
>alright lets add this new character, he's a hunter in tokyo
>atlus goes bankrupt
>frick it lets make a new game
Anon, I am angry because there is no HD port of DDS, not because of "new" SMT V
HD graphics would ruin the soul of DDS
Will it fix the game into a beloved classic like Nocturne's first rerelease?
It's already a beloved classic ;^)
Not with that level scaling shit.
Doesn't have level scaling shit.
Fake and gay just like me
You mean a mechanic that existed throughout the entire series that you've only noticed now because it was the first SMT game that didn't have laughably broken buffs and debuffs?
Yeah I don't get it either even in nocturne even when you have like max/40 str at lv 1 you will not do anywhere even near as much damage as having 10 str at level 20.
I don't really get the complaints because spamming Accursed Poison/Fairy Banquet breaks the game in half and then when you get to the end, you can just use Adversity for burst strats to cheese bosses like Shiva and Demifiend.
They probably just tried to dump everything into Str/Mag and got wrecked due to bad Vit.
If it becomes multiplat, 99% of the shitposting will instantly disappear and they'll claim the new edition fixed everything even if it adds nothing. Most of the shitposting comes from the port beggars, like you can see in the replies of every announcement.
Oh no, the shitposting will get much worse as people spam about how imaginary tendies were opposed to the port and then you'll have people hating the game just because it was released on a Nintendo system at all like with monster hunter rise.
>Tendies already in damage control
Lmao as if you didn't shit on Octopath for "betraying" Nintendo
probably not cause a lot of the love for maniax came from the fact that you fight Lucifer and you already do that in V
Manaix added stuff to a foundation and that made base nocturne a more full experience but for V it's like the whole skeleton exist but nothing more to it it's literally a polished demo of a full game
So, add YHVH for V as the Lucifer of Nocturne.
no frick it I really wish mainline stepped away from Abrahamic religions there's all these cool religions do something with them
like it's the whole point of the game that the influence of YHVH and Lucifer is fading and the endless power struggle has destroyed both sides giving an opportunity for old gods to try and seek their own power so do something with that instead
(me)
like there's no depth to it you'd think all these old gods should have had intricate plans to gain power again but they all die like b***hes it's so disappointing even if the premise is really cool
I don't know how many times I've said the exact same think but I really really like the overall ideas of V
Same world war beano would be cool.
A battle royale between true gods for the right to ascend to creator god.
So as a non christiann, is it Yahweh or Jehovah?
yahweh is how the israelites would say it
not actually sure how the jehovah version came about
of course yahweh is another name for enlil
Hebrew traditionally only writes consonants, but you can add the extra markings for vowels if you want.
There is a taboo against pronouncing the name Yahweh, so despite being spelled as such it is usually pronounced Adonai when when read from the Torah. Therefore, the vowels of Adonai are added to the consonants of Yahweh, to indicate the replacement reading.
Y H W H consonants + A O A vowels = Yahowah or Jehovah.
In other words, it's a misreading of the actual name.
The entire Fiend subplot in addition to the Amala Labyrinth and Dante didn't exist in base Nocturne. Nocturne had the least amount of plot in its original release among the games.
I know but what did exist is the base ideas about the conceptions, the reasons, and the vortex world
all those are brilliant ideas and the proper base they built the rest of the game on, maniax content is one aspect of nocturne.
I don't necessary want a battle royal I more want them to come into the play with "here's my world and here's the shady shit I've done to achieve it"
they tell you the war is over for the most part and the parties are on wait and see phase but all the gods do is "jeez how do I find my knowledge now"
all but shiva
Wow, I was literally about to replay this.
Finishing Persona 3 Reload made me hungry for a real sheen megoomi tensay experience.
The story could have so many little rewrites and extra scenes added to help the pacing and worldbuilding but they'll probably just add a random waifu character who interjects every now and then to give you one extra ending
also please make lucifer harder than shiva and fix the level scaling
>they'll probably just add a random waifu character who interjects every now and then to give you one extra ending
Reject new waifu, expand role of existing waifu Amanozako
Mermaid*
Give Amanozako a "true" form a la Midna.
I forgot a lot of SMT V story and characters even thought I finished it only months ago. I've failed you my fellow SMTbros....
nah smt v just had a shit story
There wasn't a story to forget.
the only thing I remember is bullying bad
Smt v it's about the combat anyways, but I had more fun with IVA's combat
Should I replay Nocturne or V? I don't remember anything about both except they had the same final boss.
Why would you replay V now when we know a updated version is coming?
I thought it's still years away giving Atlus track record? But you're right. Nocturne it's then.
I assume it would be this year, or the next year at the latest.
Demifiend finally gets around to punching God in the face
Lucifer reads the note God left him and it said he's a homosexual
Depressed, he calls of Armageddon and kidnaps a robot copy of Susano'o and tells him to go find (You) so you can save the world or some shit
Meanwhile United States (Angels) is bullying Japanese (Amatsukami) and the rest of demon UN to try to prove God is still on top
But you becoming Nahobino throws a big monkey wrench on it because the existence of true gods is supposed to be ultimate blasphamey
The angels try to gag order this shit as old demons start to wise up (Tentacle bro and his sisterwife)
Japanese prime Minister sees his chance and puts you front and center in Angel campaign to wipe out Lucifer army that has been all Remeber the Alamo for 20 years
All the other countries see what's going on and all out war breaks out in heaven
Your own sister wife, Amaterasu megami tensei's and guides you as you stomp all the other pretenders
Become Ass Gods
>Loved Persona 5
>Always wanted to try SMT
>Buy SMT 5
>Game runs at 20fps most of the time in the open world
>Dropped it 2 hours in because of the headaches
Feels like I got scammed by this game, and I heard the story sucks as well.
How does it feel being an inferior human being.
> Punished twink : a fell bishonen
I have the original game but I didn't play it yet, can I buy this as a dlc or something or will they want me to buy the entire game again?
Its Atlus, they'll sell it full price as usual. Just play the original game, it's pretty easy to replay even if the expansion eventually comes out.
It's Atlus. Deep down you know the answer, anon.
Hopefully we'll get a true deity ending this time around.
As long as I don't need to genocide even the good demons this time, I'll be happy.
You don't have to genocide anyone, just destroy the throne, or Law/chaos that shit.
I mean I want a ending like True Neutral, but without you killing literally every demon.
Hopefully they'll make the lead up to true neutral better if they don't change the endings
FEATURING GOJO FROM THE JUJUTSU KAISEN SERIES
And what does his special move do?
Being cut in half lmao
If you don't kill him before he kills himself, it counts as a match loss.
just remember that Atlus might censor/remove some things from any complete version, like they did with P5
Not sure I care tbh
The gay protagonist, boring maps, nodungeonslol, shit story and irrelevant characters really killed the game for me, especially after atlus was on a roll with strange journey, 4 and 4a.
>nodungeonslol
The Daath maps are pretty much just one big dungeon and is better than anyother 3d dungeon in the series
Cool, will they bring kaneko back to give it soul?
Kaneko already sold his soul for NFT cash
Kaneko has always been anti-soul
Kanecuck is currently busy selling his soul to the NFT Devil.
If they only made 4 I can't really fault them so hard for at least trying the NFT thing, just a little test to see how it went, hard to be critical when we have square enix who were determined to go all in on that shit
The worst part is that Kaneko only hopped on it after NFT meme was already dead.
>NFT cuck still designs better characters than whatever homosexual designed 5's homos
Grim
Yakumo is cleary a Kuzunoha right? I don't remember if they mentioned it in game or not.
Not specifically, but his mother is a spirit medium and it's a family of mediums. Mind you, Kuzunoha is a title.
Wait, it's not Raidou Kuzunoha?
SMTV is the best mainline SMT and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>best music
>best graphics
>coolest MC
>best wife (Amanozako)
>best bro
Should I continue?
>best music
Maybe
>best graphics
Okay
>coolest MC
I question this
>best wife (Amanozako)
Yes
>best bro
I mean, it's either him or Dagda, so I guess yeah.
>Should I continue?
But the story through?
>story through?
We play SMT for the story?
I think the games all would be better games if the story was better, so yeah, I want to see good story quality.
Oi oi oi, we're talking about an edgy story where God or YHVH and the Devil are written like morons from a sunday cartoon and the MC is always the smartest guy in the room with power to enslave them both at his leisure... are you SURE we play SMT for the award winning story...
You know megami tensei were originally a series of books
a bad series of books
>best music
4
>best graphics
Duh
>coolest MC
Strange journey
>best wife (Amanozako)
3
>best bro
Strange journey
>Should I continue?
No, you should have a nice day.
>3
Not him, but Pixie doesn't have that much of a presence. Unless you mean someone else?
You think IV had better music than V? Come on, you're trollin. IV OST was good, but they were having sex with MEN on the V ost.
Why is there still no SMT X persona cross over games where persona characters have to face the post-apocalyptic world and fight devil summoners? (I know persona 2 kinda did that but it was still mostly a smt spin-off then)
I think it would be a good way to bring persona fans to the mainline games, and seeing persona Mary-Sue characters going bonkers and killing each others would be fun
Too scary for personlies
>I think it would be a good way to bring persona fans to the mainline games
no thanks, kindly frick off back to discord. this post reeks of purse owner troon infiltration. pure chaos.
waitchads?
did we actually win in the end?
never buy the release version of Atlus games
I truly envy people who don't have fatlus brain disease cause I can't wait until price drops unless it's utterly unappealing shit like SH2
Why don't you tho?
>wanted to dayone Metaphor because "they didn't pull the Golden Royale Edition on SMT5 and SH2 there is a chance it's Persona-only now"
>they pull the Golden Royale Edition shit on SMT5
Thank you Atlus
>wanted to dayone Metaphor
LMAO dodged a bullet there
What are the chances of my man minotaur ever returning
The guest art version? Probably not that high. So it depends on if they want to get Doi to pull one out his ass or not because it's unlikely they go for the older designs.
Very painful that such a good design will be wasted away, because it wasn't part of the few randomly selected demons that would get redrawn by doi.
It kills me that out of all the options for a replacement for kaneko they chose Doi. He is "ok" at human designs but his demons suck balls.
what "all options" there literally wasn't anyone else
I really like amon and mephisto.
Though I feel like his beta designs for 4 were his best.
I like his Cleopatra but that's because I'm a C.
YHVengenceH
Sonychads WON
I never try 3ds emulator in pc for some reason. Never even tried to. All the talk about IV make me want to try it. Is the emulator good enough?
yeah I heard they even fix an old graphical isssue
I do recommend playing it on a 3ds however
It works 99% fine. The only thing you might encounter is the animation for demons dying may be slightly messed up but otherwise it's fine.
>smt korean game now lost MEDIA PROBABLY WORTH MILLIONS
>UHM AKSHUALLY IT'S FAKE CUZ THE WAY THIS JOURNALIST IS SPEAKING IS UHM FAKE? AND UHMMM ITS JUST FAKE OKAY? JUST READ HIS TWITTER POST
YUP
/v/etard moment
>Cute Twink in the Wastelands:Complete Edition
We won so hard
I want to know, why no Hades in SMT? I want Hades as the big bad of SMT.
classically cause Kaneko didn't know what to do with more popularly known myth figures both in terms of design and portrayal
look no further than zeus and how literally non of the designs he has is well liked or portrayed in a way people find interesting at least compered to all the other myth mainline deals with
cause I am indeed infected with fatlus brain disease
Zeus would be cool if he wss completely made of marble instead of this weird I can be yuor angle or devil kamen rider W thing he has going on.
I'll allow him to keep the fang joker blade arms, because his signature atk looks really cool.
but there's almost no point to his design if not the "half and half" part. it's just acceptable. and that's the exact issue kaneko has with a lot of greek myth figures
Personally I feel the better way to represent that would be to have the marble crack and reveal the edgy bit as he took damage. I agree with that other anon, Doi needs to lay off hard kamen rider references and make designs that can stand on their own better.
right but then it's not a W reference and can't have that
>layoff KR references
I like toku and agree with your assessment overall
like I think there's better avenues of reference to toku's design language he could take but part of me still likes the "he he W reference"
The fact that you think it's a W reference and not a reference to the fact that Zeus was a tyrant painted as good just shows that your brain is rotten.
yeah right, I assure you I know all those commentary posts way better than you, it's still a W reference
>I agree with that other anon, Doi needs to lay off hard kamen rider references and make designs that can stand on their own better.
That being said I really like a lot of his new designs for V.
Hydra, aitvaras, kaya no hime, loup garou, fionn and the new imp/angel are very solid designs.
I do think he has improved a lot for V, but man give me any of kaneko's angels over the doi angel any day. I really hate V's luci design as well. I shudder for the day they replace pixie. I'm sure it's coming eventually.
I honestly like doi angel, better than kaneko bondage angel.
Don't really care for kaneko's cardinal angels either.
I think V Zeus, personality wise, is perfect and I hope he and his shit eating sister are staples from now on.
that part of the trailer they had him beat the shit out of demeter was so funny
What's his personality like again? I legit don't remember anything about V's story
When Atlus can announce this game? Any shows soon?
Partner Direct this week. Supposedly, according to Pyoro
Soul Hackers 2 is better than this trash. And Persona 3 Reloaded blows it out of the fricking water. Why would they waste their money on this?
Because it sold better than both combined in Japan
>Soul Hackers 2 is better
God no.
No matter the games, i jus want to coom inside Asahi.
Wait until the 4/4A 3D remakes.
>really enjoyed the demon fusing and combat of P5
>hyped for SMT V
>play it
>feels like it has 10% of the budget of P5
>slow, janky, ugly menus, world is uninspired, story and characters are especially weak
what a disappointment that was. hope this port adds a lot more flavor, but not holding my breath
>didn't mention anything about gameplay
SMTbabs not beating allegations.