i wonder if the people who run demeter plus 3 morons who all res demeter realize that they are making her die like 6 times every time i fight that shit
I run Maria + Demeter, which I understand is peak cancer just like Zeus + Isekai Odin, but I wonder what goes in the mind of those who just rely on revive strats, that aren't even that good for defense aside of being annoying to deal with.
I would love to get shaddai and just run a funny defense team that fricks with phys teams but sadly that's outside my realm of possibilities.
>spamming 22 hell bulls to barely get to master 1 (?) >trying to cross from d3 3830 to m1 border took fricking 1.5h of spaming randoms non stop
Why did I do that to myself?
>when you need them
I don't need them, but I don't have any other use for them especially in this meta >now that you are on master
I was hitting old d2-d3 (whatever counted as range 3800-4000) like a year ago without any hell bulls, but back then zeus and demeter weren't a thing and I do not have them
Yes, all your data is stored on a server and you no longer have access to it.
That's lame. I guess a fan server is not possible then.
>when you need them
I don't need them, but I don't have any other use for them especially in this meta >now that you are on master
I was hitting old d2-d3 (whatever counted as range 3800-4000) like a year ago without any hell bulls, but back then zeus and demeter weren't a thing and I do not have them
[...]
Sound of freedom
>that now owned list
Damn. I guess I'm not doing that bad.
No way.
But they will definitely go all out just BEFORE EoS to milk the whales as much as possible.
So when demons start becoming really obscenely broken that's when you know EoS is coming fast.
Will probably release YHVH to herald EoS too as you just know that will send the jap whales into a frenzy.
Yes, but it can always go higher.
If anything I'd say the game can last at least one more year, because wasn't the recent Tiamat event actually new when it comes to gameplay?
Same for Chapter 14
3 options
They give out 1 selector with year 2 demons this time
They release the most broken units of all time
They release some busted units and hand them out for free but there is only one week to use them
No signs of EoS, but I'd stay far away from this. PvE content is a cycle of the same kind of events, and the story doesn't stand out at all. PvP is your main source of gems, and powercreep gets fricking ludicrous. There's no fusion autism here, since over 90% of all new demons added are banner-only.
Hope that Sega releases a P2P version of this game on Steam once EoS happens. I really like some of the gameplay mechanics, it's just the gacha part that's aids.
It really depends on what Sega and Atlus wants. Unlike other studios the Sega mobile division is completely separated from the one that makes games for consoles. That's why they haven't used any of the models from the gacha in any console release, or why they only reuse animations for Dx2 but not the models.
There are a lot but the most likely candidates are Devil Lucifer and Godly Satan.
I think the moment they add one of those two the devs are telling us that the game will be over soon, and if it doesn't the only way it could be over if playable YHVH.
I hope they add enough old demons until that though. Not having Nyx or Yggdrasil in the game feels weird.
Uber Metatron but he's good this time around. To get him you must fuse a normal Metatron with YHVH, who also counters him, meaning you'll have to roll for two YHVHs.
Building on the idea that was said in the end of last turn busted versions of the Dx2 demons
5* Ose >Smirk
Party member with might will crit even if they use magic attacks
Critical hits will deal 30% extra damage >Familia
Gives charge/concentrate, might and Zenith to all party members at the start of own turn
At the start of the turn reduces enemy phys resistance by 3 stages
Party members with charge cannot miss
+50% to phys damage
Party gains +30% damage for each debuff the enemy has >Infernal Swords 6 MP
Inflicts phys damage (power 180) on one enemy then Inflicts phys damage (power 180) on all enemies
If attack is successful gain 1 press turn and buff party's atk/evade and debuff enemy atk/evade
*Damage from this skill ignores all death prevention skills.
*Enters a state of Might and Charge
P1: Decreases MP cost of Infernal Blades by 1
P2: +20% to phys damage and + 50% to own affect on team speed
P3: At the start of the Duel if the opponent has a Godly, Herald or Seraph demon inflic phys damage (power 180) twice on every one of those demons ignoring death prevention skills and enter a state of might and charge
*this demon can only be used if the selected Dx2 is Carbon Black or Honey Sweet
5* Mothman >Strong Dose
-50% enemy auto cure chance
Enemies with ailments recieve +10% damage for each ailment >Unatural Being
Gives Ailment Pierce
Inflict gloom and weak on the opponents party on the start of every turn
Enemies with gloom have -50% ailment resistance
Enemies with weak recover -1 MP naturally
Dx2 skills trigger 100% of the time >Cursed Scales 6 MP
Inflict phys damage (power 50) on all enemies with 50% chance of poison/charm/bind/curse
P1: Inflicts poison/charm/bind/curse at the start of enemy turn
P2: -20% enemy auto recovery chance and +20% party damage on afflicted enemies
P3: (same as ose's but with a weak ailment affliction instead)
*can only be used if selected Dx2 is Carbon Black or Honey Sweet
(All would still be powercrept by YHVH and Satan)
he's so bad now it's hilarious >wtf this guy does TWO THOUSAND damage for ONLY 8 mana?!?!?!?! NERF
1 year ago
Anonymous
>liberator quests come out >very hard has a huang di >wtf is yinglong killer >surely this will never be released and will just be an enemy-exclusive demon
Take me back.
there will be a "if you use bulwark it automatically gets removed and also you get debilitate cast on you"
there will be a "if you get a press turn you lose two turns"
and there will be a "downed demon gets res banned, no this time for real maria's ability doesn't work frick u"
It said something about a campaing, don't know what that was but I will take it got enough gems to do one last summon and get the tomes to summon a zeus
Democalypse ended, are you sure it's not from that?
It said something about a campaing, don't know what that was but I will take it got enough gems to do one last summon and get the tomes to summon a zeus
OH I JUST REMEMBERED
https://twitter.com/d2megaten/status/1651481302837891072
it was the fricking twitter campaign lmao
>beat a bunch of shit japs in random match >they all revenge match instead of having a set of balls and also random matching
they shouldn't have revenge match be an option if you lost in random. you got completely shit on, at random. why do you get the option of preparing a counter attack to get all your points back after you just got completely shitslammed?
don't they get only the same ammount of points from a normal duel in that revenge fight? You had between 50 and 100% more points winning a random battle.
Can confirm that SK and Griffith are good but only with panels.
B.Guts is still an Astaroth downgrade sadly, even at P4.
Mozgus can work for a meme team.
What's with the obsession with EoS
Why would they ever shut down this milking machine
I know of games with 50~ players that are kept running because of whales
Just doomers being doomers. There are 10+ year old gachas still alive with basically no population. When one of these game closes down, it's almost always because of a change somewhere in the chain of command, not because it became financially unsustainable.
Dx2 could easily go for another 5 years because there is no lack of units to add.
Just people being realistic. For all I care the game can keep running for 5 more years because I actually really like the PVP aspect, but it's a mobile game dude, it's going to die soon, and I'm ready to laugh at the whales losing their money.
Nothing realistic about that
You're just fantasizing about the game shutting down to own le whales who kick your ass in PvP
You're in every single one of these threads spamming about EoS like that's going to materialize your le epic vengeance
Probably because the main story seems to be almost over, the two other major factions are over and the main villain has awoken
Like they can't just come up with a new threat after Vanitas
The story updates happen every 6 months anyway
>who kick your ass in PvP
I'm the one kicking ass, and I really don't care when I lose because that just means I have to change my team.
Mobile games shut down, no matter if they are good or bad, loved or hated, and is something that it's going to happen eventually. For now I'll enjoy the game.
i genuinely believe this is just a way for them to finance remastered version of old designs in 3d, don't think they actually see this as a genuine game
I personally think this is a passion project for someone in the dev team, and if that's the case bless them because you know damn well that modern fatlus would never have made models for Rahab, Fariedone, and all the dimensionals. Even demons like Ose, Lilith and a few others have completely new models or animations.
But I hope they reuse these models for a future game but I doubt it, because if that was the case SMTV would have reused Mermaid's animations.
Alright you little shits, enough is enough! Join the /smtg/ faction ASAP or I'll throw Alilat on the floor and shatter her to pieces! Don't think I won't do it! We have 4 spots open, we get top 1%-1.5% every democalypse (so always full rewards) and we don't demand good damage, only that you participate every demo.
Go to Faction menu, search "/smtg/" without quotation marks, apply, then reply to this post with your name, or a clue (if you don't want to reveal it here), so we know it's a Gankergay and not some random.
Well? What are you waiting for? Quit now so you have enough time to join /smtg/ before the next Democalpyse.
>P1: gain mortal, bind, and charm immunity >P2: while alive, allies gain bonus 20% DMG while with bulwark >P3: increases almighty DMG and HP by 20%
>Mystery of zouhanten >while alive allies take less magic DMG and allies heal whenever a demon other than self dies >normal attack deal almighty DMG
>Kangitenho >when ally heals deal almighty DMG to single target >Decreases enemy ev/ac, atk, and def on successful hit >When HP is higher than 70% apply 1000 bulwark on allies
say hello to Demeter 2.0
Kangiten + Kalki + Maria + Demeter is going to be a gigantic pain in the ass to beat.
>Only Bulwarks once a turn
Easy sweep with Odin, next
The description is iffy. It might be "every time his health crosses 70%" or "every time someone heals". Both of them are bad. We'll see how it actually works tomorrow.
Is Kangiten actually worth the slot you could use for another defensive demon
Why wouldn't your average Odin be able to swipe both him and demeter
kangitenho has two activating effect the first one activates on heal the other activates only when they're at 70% or more hp, like mozgus' bloody scripture
>what if I post this made up term to gaslight people into thinking men have anything even remotely similar to veganas?
What you want to post is an butthole, where feces came out from, where you want to insert your mouth, tongue, and penis inside of, like a mentally ill cretin with less foresight than a roly poly.
Murmur is decently niche because of his passive, and if you have Demeter pairing him with Berserker Guts and Orcus is not a bad idea for a fun team that has decent Elemental resistance.
Echidna is nice, she is a decent revive demon but not as good as XiWangMu or Maria. If you have Kalki and she is in her Teal Archetype she is a good counter for Zeus because of her repel Elec.
Aside of that B.Guts it's great for PVE and Echidna is good for ice democalypse.
>P1: gain mortal, bind, and charm immunity >P2: while alive, allies gain bonus 20% DMG while with bulwark >P3: increases almighty DMG and HP by 20%
>Mystery of zouhanten >while alive allies take less magic DMG and allies heal whenever a demon other than self dies >normal attack deal almighty DMG
>Kangitenho >when ally heals deal almighty DMG to single target >Decreases enemy ev/ac, atk, and def on successful hit >When HP is higher than 70% apply 1000 bulwark on allies
say hello to Demeter 2.0
Also this is the SMTIV ani demon, there will be comemorative files
>P1: gain mortal, bind, and charm immunity >P2: while alive, allies gain bonus 20% DMG while with bulwark >P3: increases almighty DMG and HP by 20%
>Mystery of zouhanten >while alive allies take less magic DMG and allies heal whenever a demon other than self dies >normal attack deal almighty DMG
>Kangitenho >when ally heals deal almighty DMG to single target >Decreases enemy ev/ac, atk, and def on successful hit >When HP is higher than 70% apply 1000 bulwark on allies
say hello to Demeter 2.0
If you have a healer, yes, aside of that, they are okay just because of the extra magic defense and the pseudo Anahita boost in their Panel 2.
Also, I noticed Light Drain in Teal, and considering that Kalki is one of its best partners, that means that next demon could have Light affinity.
I usually stop doing randos in diamond and just revengebait. I have a good attacking team that beats any tanky team in the game currently, but I lose to Tiamat. However, at the same time, I don't have Demeter, so I can't run any defense at all, so I just put my attack team in def and revenge anyone without Tiamat. Revenge is just not worth it at that point when you're losing 4 of them.
This happened in one of my duels and it reminded me of this gif
It's honestly pretty fun seeing a demon with endure be the only one left during your turn makes the final click to kill it that more satisfying
I got the c**t (Demeter)
Time to destroy the rest of PVE content and maybe take PVP seriously for once
Btw which of her panels is more important? I can afford both but I would like to hold on at least some of my uni spirits
I got the c**t (Demeter)
Time to destroy the rest of PVE content and maybe take PVP seriously for once
Btw which of her panels is more important? I can afford both but I would like to hold on at least some of my uni spirits
basically don't spend them
Occasionally I will finish up the panel of demon if I get any dupes or if I feel that spending 40 spirits to finish Panel 1 is worth it
>put a ton of doge in my demeter >she never dogdes anything >put a ton of +hit on my Zeus >he misses 50% of the time
I hate getting to high ranks, it was a mistake
That was even more useless bait than Kangiten
Especially what with them running Great Deity 5 days after
At least transphant has some use outside of Panel 4 memes
When Vishnu A was a thing and I desperately desired him, I played this game the last time. I'm a returning player; please advise what to do. I recently started playing again, and after pulling 500, all I currently have is this. I keep hearing that rerolling for Demeter is a smart idea. Should i summon for the berserk banner demons?
only have 1000 gems but can farm story.
>Should i summon for the berserk banner demons? >only have 1000 gems but can farm story.
The berserk units are good.....if you can get them to panel 4 which means getting 11 copies of the same demon.
Demeter is cute, and considering that you have Zeus and Human Belz she is worth going for. If you don't get her try to save gems and make a good fast team with Zeus, and maybe wait until felons like Maria, Elohim, and Gozu Tennoh comeback.
Of course, if you don't care about the demons you have right now just reroll for demeter.
Seems like you jumped over Mentioning Vishnu a. Did he fall off. Lets say i don't have Demeter then how hard would the game get in pvp with Zues, vishnu and 2 more for speed?
Nowadays AOE isn't that good because of Demeter, so Vishnu A sadly doesn't get any use. He is great for pve stuff like Aura Gate or Farming Brands, but aside of that he is just okay, a shame because his skill is interesting.
That said, I feel like he will be useful really soon so it's not a bad idea to keep it, or just because you really like him. >how hard would the game get in pvp with Zues, vishnu and 2 more for speed
I would say that just having Zeus it's really good so maybe you can work it out, but not having demeter nowadays makes pvp really hard sadly. You really need Zeus to be precise and to hit hard.
In early pvp you could also go for the slow approach because Human Belz it's really good with his Panel 2.
Demeter is really good so I would recommend trying to get her. She is like Maria and Xiwang Mu, until the devs decide to go full moron and add "remove bulkwark" she will be good. I'm pretty sure she has at least 1 year to keep being relevant.
Kangiten seems like it wants to pair with Ardha (how fitting, they're both half-and-half gods representing couples) but I don't think they hit hard enough or tank well enough to do so. Like it's funny to chain the heal-damage effects but it can go wrong easily.
His, or their idk, best partner it's going to be Kalki for some stall tactics. Completely shut down by Indrajit but aside of that it sound pretty good.
They are good together but Seth is pve boy right now.
Kangiten helps a lot in teams where healing is part of the gameplan, like Barong teams, Kalki teams and teams with Maria.
what if they changed demeter so that all she did was force you to stay in a pvp fight with her for 20 minutes, and then you win
it would make the pvp fights vs her teams way shorter and the results would be the same
does anybody remember which demons has passives that raises ailment resist for the whole party? those p1 botis+atiamat teams are difficult to deal with, any tips?
Mishaguchi at Panel 3 has 40% auto cure rate, and I think that's it, and that's not even ailment resistance it's just auto cure rate.
The only thing I can think of its to outsized them or have Zenith.
>Mishaguchi
i could swear that i saw one that affected the entire team resistance, maybe it's on of the new p4 or buffs we've seen, maybe i dreamed it i don't know
speed doesnt matter, atiamat triggers "at the beginning of the first turn" which takes precedence over "at the start of own turn" some other anon explained it the the previous thread. tl;dr p1 botis+atimat will break your barrier and status you no matter if you go first or second. I'll probably have to figure something out with a tanky maria+amon team, assuming she doesn't get blown the frick out by zeus
Gold 1 shitter here.
I've been b***hslapping the rare Tiamat A I've met by going first thanks to Demedicky, she does protect you from Tiamat A if she goes first.
i remember trying this but it didn't work, maybe it's because I went 2nd, I can't remember. I'll try this, thanks
1 year ago
Anonymous
Demedicky's hymen goes up before Tiamat when you attack first, but goes after Tiamat when you're second.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah, i just found out now, sorry for wasting everybody's time. thanks again.
Gold 1 shitter here.
I've been b***hslapping the rare Tiamat A I've met by going first thanks to Demedicky, she does protect you from Tiamat A if she goes first.
lol just go first anon
how can you not know this from practice
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah it's pretty embarrassing, it all stems from the first time i duel a atiamat team and even made sure my demeter has more agi than atiamat which she did, but i must've gone 2nd and forgotten about it and assumed atiamat fricks you over no matter what if you have no barrier up.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Trust me if there was an actual counter to Demeter you'd know
those kinds of passives stack. every single "while zenith is active, grants xyz", every single "while enemy is gloomed, grants xyz,", every "while reflect magic is active" etc. doesn't matter who caused it, just as long as it's in play.
Gold is kinda fun right now with what I have
Having to choose what to gamble on when I click random is fun
The Tiamat, Demeter, Zeus, Elohim team gets fricked by fast teams with Demeter but has enough damage to deal with extremely tanky teams
While if I trade Zeus for Astaroth I a lot of times can outspeed those faster teams but extremely tanky teams are sometimes a problem
Also I love when Tiamat hits a weakness with her first attack because then Zeus also hits everyone before bulwarks and if anything dies Elohim also does a nuke, shame that nearly everything has null dark
post your oldest demons
i've been playing since launch i'm pretty sure the teal mara was the garanteed 5* i got when i started, my 2nd 5* was a red thor which was the original meme pull because sega gave one away for free and you could not shift archetype back then, you also see the renmant of my yellow ishtar and tag jacks that first got me into diamond, i used fenrir to outspeed the other teams. It's crazy how the game has changed since launch
My first account got banned, and the oldest demons I have after picking the game back up right away were the free Setanta, and the Cerberus, Orochi, and Yatagarsu I used to get through Aura Gate.
Also sold a red Cu sith that I used to have. I didn't know I couldn't fuse him again.
My first account got banned, and the oldest demons I have after picking the game back up right away were the free Setanta, and the Cerberus, Orochi, and Yatagarsu I used to get through Aura Gate.
Started playing just a bit before the first Berserk event
I do not know how that baphomet survived everything, guess it's a testament to how bad I am at organizing things that I didn't even realize he was there
>the only people i'm fricking beating are the ones who didn't register (ie their score is fricking 0) >person above me has more than double my score
this mode is such fricking homosexualry
It's a coin toss. You either get teams with Maria, Demeter and Gozu Tennoh, or you get crap like Yama, Ananta and speedster Attis.
I think it wouldn't be this bad if the MC had more power. I hate only having three demons instead of having my whole party.
this season (if their even that) i started in HP3 and i got perfect score on every opponent except 1 where i had to use 1 handicap, I placed 8th. like that other anon said, luck plays a huge part it seems.
started about 4-5 days ago, almost have 5.5k gems. is the start dash yoshimitsu step up worth it? if not which one (if any right now) would you guys recommend?
not really big on rerolling, plus i don't really want to do all of the story+demon buster, hell park etc. i've already completed. do zeus and demeter make the game a lot easier or something? haven't really paid attention to any of the banner demons, i just know from past experiences with smt that yoshitsune is usually good
Powercreep is the norm in gacha and Yoshi was powercreeped years ago.
Zeus is the strongest/second strongest damage dealer while Demeter trivialize all PvE content and 98% of the demon roster
yoshi is worthless outside of phys democalypse
would personally rank it among the top 3 essential demons for the boss fight, outside of the demons offering dmg boosts
the other two being mara and odinA
Powercreep is the norm in gacha and Yoshi was powercreeped years ago.
Zeus is the strongest/second strongest damage dealer while Demeter trivialize all PvE content and 98% of the demon roster
Reroll for Zeus and Demedicky, its literally the only banner worth anything right now.
tried rolling for zeus and demeter and got nergal on step 4, should i kms?
Should I roll Zeus in step up summon or gem summon? Been lucky several times with gem summon, got my first Zeus that way while step up summon often disappoint despite seem like better chance
Element Resist up, something like immediately after taking damage raise the resistance of that element (applies to entire party)
Also has Null Pierce and naturally nulls fire
Some direct Demeter counter probably, most likely a demon with a bind chain effect.
I would hate it if they add some demon that just makes bulkwark useless the same way I hated Maria for making revive ban useless.
For future demons, I'm pretty sure Light Affinity decrease is next because Kangiten has Drain Light for no reason, the same way Kalki had Null Dark.
Force resistance down
I would love that if they buff Baal. I would love to use him or Susanoo again.
Last year they buffed every 5 star demon. Some were just simple resistance changes to get prepared for Demeter like going from "-50% dmg taken" to "-50% dmg taken" while others were more important like Ananta, Ishtar, and Fafnir.
I hope they do the same this year.
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/093967.html
Devs probably make their plans for demons in advance, so I would not be surprised if the resistance buffs were made so those demons could shine alongside demeter.
And even if that wasn't the case I appreciate because either love getting zero damage from elohim or Zeus when I use fusion demons.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>so I would not be surprised if the resistance buffs were made so those demons could shine alongside demeter.
But they don't, these have nothing to do with each other
Ty but I'm more of a dickyKatsu guy myself. As if lol. I'm not installing 150GB of assets and then spend the next 3 hours tinkering all for a 5 minute wank.
Hinokagutsuchi has it at Panel 2, same with red amon. The other ones are support demons like Echidna or Asherah, and AOE demons like Sabbath and Shaddai.
This is honestly such horseshit
If any of you manage to clear it let me know how
The best i could manage to get into is an endless loop of Demeter and Kangiten surviving while i try and fail to keep Botis and Zeus alive with revive items
lol how the frick are you supposed to win that archangel battle for kasane
i have demeter, maria, kangiten, zeus, odin, botis, nothing works
I beat them with this. Don't bother with magic unless you have giga chad min maxed sun, spam phys hard (preferably aoe). Still least cancer fight from all those kind of events
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v0rKQHE-i0A&pp=ygUDRHgy
Nevermind it might be doable with fusables
So true.
Alright i finally did it, i bulk cheesed it with Demmy, Kangiten, Maria, and Undead Alice for fractional chip damage
I outlasted them motherfrickers on auto
You had both maria and demedicky and still had struggle with the snuggle?
I didn't think i'd match the speed requirement to go first so i kept trying to go full assault mode, and also my brain didn't register that the angels revival skills have a limited number of uses so i thought if i didn't sweep them they'd just keep coming back
Alright i finally did it, i bulk cheesed it with Demmy, Kangiten, Maria, and Undead Alice for fractional chip damage
I outlasted them motherfrickers on auto
Ose Hallel
Gives Zenith to self at the beggining of every turn
Big Acc and DMG buff
Medium Defencive buff
Flauros Hallel
Gives Lydia and Bullwark to whole party at the first turn
When Lydia heals or when a bullwark gets added he uses Baptisma on the demon that is targeted (if attacking second targets demon with highest VIT)
Comes with a buff so Baptisma also heals the entire party
(Flauros H already started out kinda meh)
Flauros
Adds another attack to the chain that also gives him charge and crit after it
Uses Hell Leopard during the start of enemy turn
>Vairocana
+50% to Max HP. Activate the following Chain Effect when a demon enters a state of Bulkwark: removes all buffs from the enemy team and use Debilitate. >Atavaka
+50% to Max HP. While this demon is alive all allies will receive the following attributes: -40% to phys damage and -40% to Critical hit rate damage >Hecate
Activate the following Chain Effect when a party member hits a weak point: Enters a state of Concentrate. +20% to Dark Damage. +20% to dmg done by single target skills. +20% to dmg to enemies in the state of bulkwalk.
i was able to beat the angel boss with >dumb fairy prostitute >orcus >orange man of damage + mega healing >the guy from guts that's a dog with demon wings
the key is that they're op auto res bullshit spells are limited to 6 uses so you can just survive until they run out of them then kill them
huggy elephant, gogmagog and orcus seem to make the angel fights into a joke. only trick is figuring out which 4th member will make it go faster (i'm trying with black rider for now)
Almighty guy that nukes a single target 4 times and each time it's the same damage as the first hit of Elohim, also counts as different attacks so SK will hit 4 times too
Hope you whaled for him!
Democalypse, but it's good for a few demons like Yama and Izanami that have Mp reduction.
Does Elohim ever get a single banner instead of coming bundled up with other bullshit
He got two reruns if I'm not mistaking, the first one when shaddai got released and I think he had another one earlier this year. Aside of that he is paired with other frickers.
>Is Elohim enough of a nuker to justify being the only real attacker
I don't think so, you need at least one more demon for that but anahita may do the job well.
Usually whenever new mechanic is introduced one of the older demons get it for example Amaterasu got zenith, Trumpeter gloom and Barong bulwark
So where is the elemental affinity down demon?
That'll take a much longer time i think, because they didn't do a demon for every affinity yet, nor did they do my greatest fear (A demon that cleanses affinity down)
I just... i'm just sentimental... i don't want the two other israeliteballs to lag behind elohim...
The team with them and demeter literally feels like she's taking care of 3 disabled children (of YHVH)
And I really should have finished buffing my Flauros, he had too little HP and I had to Revive him with items sometimes, at least he was the target of single target attacks while alive so he had a role at least
The phys affinity reduction sounds really scary, but I'm not sure if it's only one level or two because it says that activates when he uses his skill as well.
MP reduction for phys teams also makes him really good, so I think he is worth it. Half anniversary is really close so he may be the biggest bait ever made
>Does this game have original artwork?
Yes. >where can I find it?
Some stuff was uploaded to the Dx2 Facebook account, but I think that's it. Aside of the official soundtrack nothing else was released.
Mine gets roughly 50% successes up to low gold, then it's pretty much useless. probably only because of dodgy demeter surprising some (and some luck too i'm sure)
concerning events where you can use two parties to farm drops, do you get more of them if you fill both parties with the silver icon demons or does only the first party count
Powercreep. He has the same single target attack power of 280 but more element damage boosts
Botis also won't activate Demeter's moronation if you target her
Botis, any colour Botis, has innate +55% to his element. I don't remember how much innate element boost Elohim gets but not as much as this
Either way properly built Elohim will deal more damage than Botis but it does not matter cuz Elo is AOE demon in post Demeter world
Elohim has +50% (when his passive is levelled), but the +40% from Botis' passive affects the enemy's defence so it's multiplicative, it's more like +61% total instead of +55% (Mithras works the same way)
My Botis Zeus and Odin don't have perfect brands or any panels and get me to high diamond, so from all the talk bout Elohim being a le epic nuker i expected more i guess
Botis, any colour Botis, has innate +55% to his element. I don't remember how much innate element boost Elohim gets but not as much as this
Either way properly built Elohim will deal more damage than Botis but it does not matter cuz Elo is AOE demon in post Demeter world
Wow new demon is amazing.
Make sure to get him for futureproofing, phys has always been the devs and this game's favourite. The new demon is a speedster that reduces phys affinity twice and gives everyone might
Even has this meme skill on purple > While the one with this skill is alive, all other party members will receive the following effect: +15% to Physical damage.
have different ones depending on what demons i get but i always prioritize getting erl
for equipment i do asura shield with whatever heal sword i have that the enemy is weak against
got really lucky this run tho even if i didn't get the heal stigmata with erl,ali, and indra with lord of the dead and elussis' blessing abilities
with erl and ali i can just out tank/heal the bosses
If you have Odin, Zeus, Hachiman and/or other good fast phys demons, yes. If not, don't bother. Save for half anniversary.
I'm pulling because I actually like Hagen.
If you have all three of them in your team it pretty much guarantees that Odin doesn't use a single turn to attack, as well as making sure that the enemy is in Gloom even if they removed it somehow with Zenith.
But if you think you have a good team with Zeus I recommend that you save
Ye i wouldn't wanna replace Botis because the mute helps me very often and a lot of things combo off each other
I honestly don't see myself swapping any demons unless the half anni one seriously is some kinda universal work-with-any-team carry like Demmy is
do something for my benefit you stupid fricking charmed demons
i guess people already figured out that concentrate is literally THE counter to charm since the ai will have your demon cast concentrate instead of anything useful
From least to most
Loup Garou while Zeus hasn't been powercrept and I don't think there is another Elec doimon
Shekinah as the Demeter counter
Krishna and Maytreia as an ailment guy and an anti weak point demon
I'm hoping for Danu to be the a big healing demon. But the next ones are probably Cleopatra and Mephistopheles, and whoever they choose to be the V event demon.
Zeus and Demedicky event started on the last day of 2022.
It will be exactly 6 months since then tomorrow.
They can delay it but the next banner is going to bomb in that case since people know it's going to be bait.
heal tank demons with heal sword and dumping everything into vit/luc
had nearly 5k health by the end of it
so far it's the only strat i know of that ever brought me close to the 200f
battles were so long that it took an entire day just to finish the last 5 floors
>Want to use the GW choice summon for skill harvesting/ fodder for fusion or 6*. >Worried that they might release Panel 4 of best herald, so haven't used it yet.
I have no idea if they'll bother releasing more P4s soon, but I don't wanna risk using it.
Inherent Skill: Thunder Emperor Fighting Spirit
Gain Physical Pierce. Increases effect on own battle speed by 20%.
At the start of your turn, activates the chain effect: "Charge yourself and grant Zenith to all allies for 1 turn."
While in a state of charge, when an ally other than yourself performs a Physical or Magic skill including an attack or a percentage damage, activates the chain effect: "Inflicts physical damage with a critical rate of 50% to a single enemy."
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will have the following effect: ``Damage dealt increases by 15% when in a state of Zenith, and damage received from physical and electric attributes is reduced by 30%.''
Inherent Skill: Indara MP: 5 (no use limit)
Inflicts physical damage with a power of 150 and a critical rate of 50% on a single enemy.
When the attack succeeds, activates the chain effect: "Inflicts physical damage with a power of 150 and a critical rate of 50% to a single enemy."
Ignores Counter and Endure skills.
Panel 1: Increases the effect on own battle speed by 20%.
Reduces damage received from physical and electric attribute by 50%.
Panel 2: Max HP increased by 20%.
While he is alive, all allies will have the following effect: "When in a state of Zenith, hit rate increases by 20% and critical rate increases by 20%."
PANEL3: Increases physical damage dealt by 20%. Accuracy increased by 20%.
>Demon who basically tell phys and elec team to frick off >Let's make it fast
For what purpose? Slow teams are the ones who need someone like him.
Also obvious bait banner, half-anni event soon etc
Demeter.
i wonder if the people who run demeter plus 3 morons who all res demeter realize that they are making her die like 6 times every time i fight that shit
I run Maria + Demeter, which I understand is peak cancer just like Zeus + Isekai Odin, but I wonder what goes in the mind of those who just rely on revive strats, that aren't even that good for defense aside of being annoying to deal with.
I would love to get shaddai and just run a funny defense team that fricks with phys teams but sadly that's outside my realm of possibilities.
ppl just jamming their best shit into a team thoughtlessly then winding up with 0 damage probably
Mermaid !
>spamming 22 hell bulls to barely get to master 1 (?)
>trying to cross from d3 3830 to m1 border took fricking 1.5h of spaming randoms non stop
Why did I do that to myself?
Jesus. Don't do that to yourself dude. Only use HB when you really need them.
But maybe you won't have to do it now that you are on Master.
>when you need them
I don't need them, but I don't have any other use for them especially in this meta
>now that you are on master
I was hitting old d2-d3 (whatever counted as range 3800-4000) like a year ago without any hell bulls, but back then zeus and demeter weren't a thing and I do not have them
Sound of freedom
What usually happens then gacha goes EOS? Does it become unplayable?
Yes, all your data is stored on a server and you no longer have access to it.
That's fricking lame
That's lame. I guess a fan server is not possible then.
>that now owned list
Damn. I guess I'm not doing that bad.
>damn
Why did you think despite okay brands, p3 asta, p3 elo, p1 kalki and p2 asural I had this much trouble?
You guys think Sega will do anything special for EoS? Something along the lines of free pulls or give you a shit ton or resources?
No way.
But they will definitely go all out just BEFORE EoS to milk the whales as much as possible.
So when demons start becoming really obscenely broken that's when you know EoS is coming fast.
Will probably release YHVH to herald EoS too as you just know that will send the jap whales into a frenzy.
>So when demons start becoming really obscenely broken that's when you know EoS is coming fast.
They've been doing this for 2 years
Yes, but it can always go higher.
If anything I'd say the game can last at least one more year, because wasn't the recent Tiamat event actually new when it comes to gameplay?
Same for Chapter 14
3 options
They give out 1 selector with year 2 demons this time
They release the most broken units of all time
They release some busted units and hand them out for free but there is only one week to use them
Is this game near EoS? I was thinking of starting it but I don’t want to play just to have them shut it down in a couple months
First of all, I recommend against ever picking this game up, second of all, I don't think it's near EoS.
No signs of EoS, but I'd stay far away from this. PvE content is a cycle of the same kind of events, and the story doesn't stand out at all. PvP is your main source of gems, and powercreep gets fricking ludicrous. There's no fusion autism here, since over 90% of all new demons added are banner-only.
>Ali/erl with elusis/lydia/lord of the dead
literally undefeatable this tokyo abyss
Hope that Sega releases a P2P version of this game on Steam once EoS happens. I really like some of the gameplay mechanics, it's just the gacha part that's aids.
It really depends on what Sega and Atlus wants. Unlike other studios the Sega mobile division is completely separated from the one that makes games for consoles. That's why they haven't used any of the models from the gacha in any console release, or why they only reuse animations for Dx2 but not the models.
EoS in 202X
It is the Word of God.
>Bidenbaoth
>Ball of Balance/Angry israelite Sun
Where is Shaddai?
Slim Shaddi
What do you think some of the final demons will be like?
There are a lot but the most likely candidates are Devil Lucifer and Godly Satan.
I think the moment they add one of those two the devs are telling us that the game will be over soon, and if it doesn't the only way it could be over if playable YHVH.
I hope they add enough old demons until that though. Not having Nyx or Yggdrasil in the game feels weird.
Satan and Devil Lucifer will definitely herald EoS
YHVH will herald EoS in 1 month 100%
Uber Metatron but he's good this time around. To get him you must fuse a normal Metatron with YHVH, who also counters him, meaning you'll have to roll for two YHVHs.
Building on the idea that was said in the end of last turn busted versions of the Dx2 demons
5* Ose
>Smirk
Party member with might will crit even if they use magic attacks
Critical hits will deal 30% extra damage
>Familia
Gives charge/concentrate, might and Zenith to all party members at the start of own turn
At the start of the turn reduces enemy phys resistance by 3 stages
Party members with charge cannot miss
+50% to phys damage
Party gains +30% damage for each debuff the enemy has
>Infernal Swords 6 MP
Inflicts phys damage (power 180) on one enemy then Inflicts phys damage (power 180) on all enemies
If attack is successful gain 1 press turn and buff party's atk/evade and debuff enemy atk/evade
*Damage from this skill ignores all death prevention skills.
*Enters a state of Might and Charge
P1: Decreases MP cost of Infernal Blades by 1
P2: +20% to phys damage and + 50% to own affect on team speed
P3: At the start of the Duel if the opponent has a Godly, Herald or Seraph demon inflic phys damage (power 180) twice on every one of those demons ignoring death prevention skills and enter a state of might and charge
*this demon can only be used if the selected Dx2 is Carbon Black or Honey Sweet
5* Mothman
>Strong Dose
-50% enemy auto cure chance
Enemies with ailments recieve +10% damage for each ailment
>Unatural Being
Gives Ailment Pierce
Inflict gloom and weak on the opponents party on the start of every turn
Enemies with gloom have -50% ailment resistance
Enemies with weak recover -1 MP naturally
Dx2 skills trigger 100% of the time
>Cursed Scales 6 MP
Inflict phys damage (power 50) on all enemies with 50% chance of poison/charm/bind/curse
P1: Inflicts poison/charm/bind/curse at the start of enemy turn
P2: -20% enemy auto recovery chance and +20% party damage on afflicted enemies
P3: (same as ose's but with a weak ailment affliction instead)
*can only be used if selected Dx2 is Carbon Black or Honey Sweet
(All would still be powercrept by YHVH and Satan)
These are barely strong enough to maybe see play these days
You are moronic. Ailment Pierce would singlehandedly ruin current PvP.
Didn't Pierce already ruin PvP when Hung Dick was released.
he's so bad now it's hilarious
>wtf this guy does TWO THOUSAND damage for ONLY 8 mana?!?!?!?! NERF
>liberator quests come out
>very hard has a huang di
>wtf is yinglong killer
>surely this will never be released and will just be an enemy-exclusive demon
Take me back.
there will be a "if you use bulwark it automatically gets removed and also you get debilitate cast on you"
there will be a "if you get a press turn you lose two turns"
and there will be a "downed demon gets res banned, no this time for real maria's ability doesn't work frick u"
Shekinah will counter Vanitas and YHVH.
Did someone else received free gems today? I had 400 gems in my gift box for some reason.
Democalypse ended, are you sure it's not from that?
It said something about a campaing, don't know what that was but I will take it got enough gems to do one last summon and get the tomes to summon a zeus
OH I JUST REMEMBERED
https://twitter.com/d2megaten/status/1651481302837891072
it was the fricking twitter campaign lmao
>Susumu Hirasawa puts his Berserk album on Bandcamp
>Dx2 gets a Berserk collab re-run and event that promotes Susumu's music
Coincidence?
Probably not but Susumu Hirasawa deserve all the shilling he can, the only 2 person he accepted to make anime music for passed away.
>Susumu Hirasawa deserve all the shilling he ca
Based. Him and Sagisou Shiro are the GOATs of anime music.
>beat a bunch of shit japs in random match
>they all revenge match instead of having a set of balls and also random matching
they shouldn't have revenge match be an option if you lost in random. you got completely shit on, at random. why do you get the option of preparing a counter attack to get all your points back after you just got completely shitslammed?
You sound extremely upset.
Skull Knight and Griffith with Demeter and Kalki is pretty good.
i'm always upset. but i'm also moronic. that's why i'm the target playerbase for this game.
don't they get only the same ammount of points from a normal duel in that revenge fight? You had between 50 and 100% more points winning a random battle.
Anyone have success with using the buffed Berserk units in PvP?
Managed to get to Diamond with Grifith Asta Elo and Altiamat
One dude was using Mozgus in Master last week.
Can confirm that SK and Griffith are good but only with panels.
B.Guts is still an Astaroth downgrade sadly, even at P4.
Mozgus can work for a meme team.
What's with the obsession with EoS
Why would they ever shut down this milking machine
I know of games with 50~ players that are kept running because of whales
Just doomers being doomers. There are 10+ year old gachas still alive with basically no population. When one of these game closes down, it's almost always because of a change somewhere in the chain of command, not because it became financially unsustainable.
Dx2 could easily go for another 5 years because there is no lack of units to add.
Just people being realistic. For all I care the game can keep running for 5 more years because I actually really like the PVP aspect, but it's a mobile game dude, it's going to die soon, and I'm ready to laugh at the whales losing their money.
Nothing realistic about that
You're just fantasizing about the game shutting down to own le whales who kick your ass in PvP
You're in every single one of these threads spamming about EoS like that's going to materialize your le epic vengeance
Like they can't just come up with a new threat after Vanitas
The story updates happen every 6 months anyway
>who kick your ass in PvP
I'm the one kicking ass, and I really don't care when I lose because that just means I have to change my team.
Mobile games shut down, no matter if they are good or bad, loved or hated, and is something that it's going to happen eventually. For now I'll enjoy the game.
i genuinely believe this is just a way for them to finance remastered version of old designs in 3d, don't think they actually see this as a genuine game
I personally think this is a passion project for someone in the dev team, and if that's the case bless them because you know damn well that modern fatlus would never have made models for Rahab, Fariedone, and all the dimensionals. Even demons like Ose, Lilith and a few others have completely new models or animations.
But I hope they reuse these models for a future game but I doubt it, because if that was the case SMTV would have reused Mermaid's animations.
Probably because the main story seems to be almost over, the two other major factions are over and the main villain has awoken
Power creep is becoming immensely cancerous and it's only going to get worse
lol why are they advertising the berserk event again
did some jap misclick
Alright you little shits, enough is enough! Join the /smtg/ faction ASAP or I'll throw Alilat on the floor and shatter her to pieces! Don't think I won't do it! We have 4 spots open, we get top 1%-1.5% every democalypse (so always full rewards) and we don't demand good damage, only that you participate every demo.
Go to Faction menu, search "/smtg/" without quotation marks, apply, then reply to this post with your name, or a clue (if you don't want to reveal it here), so we know it's a Gankergay and not some random.
>I'll throw Alilat on the floor and shatter her to pieces!
Don't do it, bruva! That dildo surely costed you money
Don't kill the little Alilat dude.
I'm still in Punished Sinners.
Well? What are you waiting for? Quit now so you have enough time to join /smtg/ before the next Democalpyse.
Kangiten + Kalki + Maria + Demeter is going to be a gigantic pain in the ass to beat.
The description is iffy. It might be "every time his health crosses 70%" or "every time someone heals". Both of them are bad. We'll see how it actually works tomorrow.
Stall defensive team.
No.
>Kangiten + Kalki + Maria + Demeter is going to be a gigantic pain in the ass to beat.
Ye but they'd have no offensive power
kangitenho has two activating effect the first one activates on heal the other activates only when they're at 70% or more hp, like mozgus' bloody scripture
Here is the proper TLs
>uses a demon skill
Is that there just so it doesn't proc from the protagonist in battle tower/Tokyo Abyss using an armament that can heal?
I would be wary about that considering that the quality of the translation has been declining for a while.
It's so that it doesn't work off Lydia or Dx2 supports
all 4 of his awaken skills suck dick
Sent, ign is Endymion.
Faction leader is on the USA, so wait until a few more hours and he should be online.
>homosexuals are NOT welcome
what if i post bussy
>what if I post this made up term to gaslight people into thinking men have anything even remotely similar to veganas?
What you want to post is an butthole, where feces came out from, where you want to insert your mouth, tongue, and penis inside of, like a mentally ill cretin with less foresight than a roly poly.
Yes.
Don't forget to mention you're not straight for extra upvotes
Ok when do we find out what's after Berserk
In like 2 hours
Soon I hope.
Murmur is decently niche because of his passive, and if you have Demeter pairing him with Berserker Guts and Orcus is not a bad idea for a fun team that has decent Elemental resistance.
Echidna is nice, she is a decent revive demon but not as good as XiWangMu or Maria. If you have Kalki and she is in her Teal Archetype she is a good counter for Zeus because of her repel Elec.
Aside of that B.Guts it's great for PVE and Echidna is good for ice democalypse.
i got murmur echidna and armor guts, any good?
if you're starting, they should help you for clearing pve content, i doubt they'll be any good for pvp unfortunately.
https://app.famitsu.com/20230510_2081979/
Kangiten!
>trans flag demon
pride
Also this is the SMTIV ani demon, there will be comemorative files
Easy skip.
>P1: gain mortal, bind, and charm immunity
>P2: while alive, allies gain bonus 20% DMG while with bulwark
>P3: increases almighty DMG and HP by 20%
>Mystery of zouhanten
>while alive allies take less magic DMG and allies heal whenever a demon other than self dies
>normal attack deal almighty DMG
>Kangitenho
>when ally heals deal almighty DMG to single target
>Decreases enemy ev/ac, atk, and def on successful hit
>When HP is higher than 70% apply 1000 bulwark on allies
say hello to Demeter 2.0
Demedicky, Maria and this new demon is going to be extra cancerous
>Only Bulwarks once a turn
Easy sweep with Odin, next
>Decreases magic damage taken
Frick you having to deal with evasion is annoying enough already
>>when Maria triggers, deal almighty DMG to single target
*Blocks Your Path, Demeter's, Kalki's and Shaddai's*
i been usin him on my pvp team, he's pretty based
>demeter
>maria
>kangiten
Now just add some damage dealer and you are set
P4 Skull Knight actually fits this team decently well.
No, add Shaddai
Is Kangiten actually worth the slot you could use for another defensive demon
Why wouldn't your average Odin be able to swipe both him and demeter
If you have a healer, yes, aside of that, they are okay just because of the extra magic defense and the pseudo Anahita boost in their Panel 2.
Also, I noticed Light Drain in Teal, and considering that Kalki is one of its best partners, that means that next demon could have Light affinity.
Will they give Vanitas a model?
how do i stay over 3400
every time i go into diamond i get a full page of homosexual ass japs attackin me
I usually stop doing randos in diamond and just revengebait. I have a good attacking team that beats any tanky team in the game currently, but I lose to Tiamat. However, at the same time, I don't have Demeter, so I can't run any defense at all, so I just put my attack team in def and revenge anyone without Tiamat. Revenge is just not worth it at that point when you're losing 4 of them.
ya that's probably a good idea to stop randoming since i do seem to lose like 40% of the time to outspeeds
*Randos are just not worth it at that point
is what I meant, but you get the gist
DodgeBlack folk will get the rope and they won't dodge it
>miss
I wonder when the next big MAG attacker will show up
Can't believe he'd do this to his literal daugtherwife.
DON'T KILL MY WIFE YOU BLACK AND WHITE Black person
Fighting against his is kinda hard now, but that's mostly because I have two Almighty demons in my team, but still fun. What a chad.
This happened in one of my duels and it reminded me of this gif
It's honestly pretty fun seeing a demon with endure be the only one left during your turn makes the final click to kill it that more satisfying
I got the c**t (Demeter)
Time to destroy the rest of PVE content and maybe take PVP seriously for once
Btw which of her panels is more important? I can afford both but I would like to hold on at least some of my uni spirits
Second panel by far.
How the frick do you people get so many uni spirits
Do you like save up for a year or two
I
basically don't spend them
Occasionally I will finish up the panel of demon if I get any dupes or if I feel that spending 40 spirits to finish Panel 1 is worth it
Pretty much. Just keep doing the dailies and weeklies. And Hell Park of course. I got my Skull Knight to P3 just from universal spirits like that.
>new demon at last
>it's worse than the last week rerun banner
lol
If these dumb japs wanted money they would have made Great Banner as massive bait
See you in a week whining about Phrööngiten making you want you have a nice day after spending half hour on a match.
Who cares, El Elohim Eloho Elohim or Elec Cancer will massacre transphant anyways
>put a ton of doge in my demeter
>she never dogdes anything
>put a ton of +hit on my Zeus
>he misses 50% of the time
I hate getting to high ranks, it was a mistake
Just take the Elohimpill and never miss again.
I HAVE A ELOHIM AND GUESS WHAT ONE ELOHIM ISNT ENOUGH TO KILL MARIA DEMETER AND GHOZU
It will be once they release the Fire Affinity Down Demon to herald EoS
Give him Concentrate so he can kill them with his chain attack.
>elohim concentrates
>Zeus kills
>Elohim triple kills.
Bro your Mithras?
What are the other two best demons for El Elohim + Mithras?
As in, units that will increase Elohim's damage? Cybele and a (iirc) P2 Anahita.
Can you screenshot the pool please?
No but you can clearly see it in game
EOS EOS EOS
EOS IS HAPPENING TOMORROW BROS
IT WAS REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM
Kangiten is awful so that would be a blessing.
Give me something to actually spend Jems on and whale for
The berserk collab is all you should have spent your gems on
That was even more useless bait than Kangiten
Especially what with them running Great Deity 5 days after
At least transphant has some use outside of Panel 4 memes
Who cares about their strength, they are worth a billion times more than Doi shit simply because Berserk
When Vishnu A was a thing and I desperately desired him, I played this game the last time. I'm a returning player; please advise what to do. I recently started playing again, and after pulling 500, all I currently have is this. I keep hearing that rerolling for Demeter is a smart idea. Should i summon for the berserk banner demons?
only have 1000 gems but can farm story.
>Should i summon for the berserk banner demons?
>only have 1000 gems but can farm story.
The berserk units are good.....if you can get them to panel 4 which means getting 11 copies of the same demon.
Demeter is cute, and considering that you have Zeus and Human Belz she is worth going for. If you don't get her try to save gems and make a good fast team with Zeus, and maybe wait until felons like Maria, Elohim, and Gozu Tennoh comeback.
Of course, if you don't care about the demons you have right now just reroll for demeter.
Seems like you jumped over Mentioning Vishnu a. Did he fall off. Lets say i don't have Demeter then how hard would the game get in pvp with Zues, vishnu and 2 more for speed?
NTA but Vishnu A sucks now
AOE has no place in post Demeter world
Honestly kind of sad about that cuz I really like his design but it's the truth
Nowadays AOE isn't that good because of Demeter, so Vishnu A sadly doesn't get any use. He is great for pve stuff like Aura Gate or Farming Brands, but aside of that he is just okay, a shame because his skill is interesting.
That said, I feel like he will be useful really soon so it's not a bad idea to keep it, or just because you really like him.
>how hard would the game get in pvp with Zues, vishnu and 2 more for speed
I would say that just having Zeus it's really good so maybe you can work it out, but not having demeter nowadays makes pvp really hard sadly. You really need Zeus to be precise and to hit hard.
In early pvp you could also go for the slow approach because Human Belz it's really good with his Panel 2.
damn. Ok final question
i'ma keep it as a alt but should i just Demeter and new demon coming if i can?
i looked up demeter and seems like she is really OP but anni is gonna destroy her i bet
Demeter is really good so I would recommend trying to get her. She is like Maria and Xiwang Mu, until the devs decide to go full moron and add "remove bulkwark" she will be good. I'm pretty sure she has at least 1 year to keep being relevant.
Maria is a part of new demon summon pool
Along with Ardha, Mithras and Mahayamuri, it seems.
I got Kangiten in Red, first new demon in ages.
Frick, not another map event
Is there ever a solved map of this shit that shows where the worthwhile items are
holy shit i need to frick kokoro
Kangiten seems like it wants to pair with Ardha (how fitting, they're both half-and-half gods representing couples) but I don't think they hit hard enough or tank well enough to do so. Like it's funny to chain the heal-damage effects but it can go wrong easily.
His, or their idk, best partner it's going to be Kalki for some stall tactics. Completely shut down by Indrajit but aside of that it sound pretty good.
according to
they were designed with deme, kalki and skull knight in mind
>Kangiten seems like it wants to pair with Ardha
What about Seth?
They are good together but Seth is pve boy right now.
Kangiten helps a lot in teams where healing is part of the gameplan, like Barong teams, Kalki teams and teams with Maria.
P4 Barong seems like he’d be nice
>Barong Dance for 1500 bulwark + almighty proc
Ardha is the only video game they/them I will ever accept.
Ardha is literally two homies in one so of course you call them they/them
what are the optimal missions for farming this kinda event
Brands of Sin give like twice as much more
what if they changed demeter so that all she did was force you to stay in a pvp fight with her for 20 minutes, and then you win
it would make the pvp fights vs her teams way shorter and the results would be the same
As i thought the elephant is a meme
I sweep them without issue
Good demon to leave for last
Hope they add Amanozako in the next anni update and make her even more busted than Demedicky.
does anybody remember which demons has passives that raises ailment resist for the whole party? those p1 botis+atiamat teams are difficult to deal with, any tips?
Mishaguchi at Panel 3 has 40% auto cure rate, and I think that's it, and that's not even ailment resistance it's just auto cure rate.
The only thing I can think of its to outsized them or have Zenith.
>Mishaguchi
i could swear that i saw one that affected the entire team resistance, maybe it's on of the new p4 or buffs we've seen, maybe i dreamed it i don't know
The other one is the sisters but it's only for femmoids and ladies.
Not the same, but Schierke can put up Barrier.
Pales
>those p1 botis+atiamat teams are difficult to deal with, any tips?
Just use Demeter bro
unless I missed something, demeter doesn't work against atiamat, the whole party gets charmed before she can put up her bulwark.
Altiamat only works vs Demeter if Tiamat goes first
Bro your speed?
speed doesnt matter, atiamat triggers "at the beginning of the first turn" which takes precedence over "at the start of own turn" some other anon explained it the the previous thread. tl;dr p1 botis+atimat will break your barrier and status you no matter if you go first or second. I'll probably have to figure something out with a tanky maria+amon team, assuming she doesn't get blown the frick out by zeus
Ermm...
i remember trying this but it didn't work, maybe it's because I went 2nd, I can't remember. I'll try this, thanks
Demedicky's hymen goes up before Tiamat when you attack first, but goes after Tiamat when you're second.
yeah, i just found out now, sorry for wasting everybody's time. thanks again.
>Lust-inducing choice of words
ToT
Gold 1 shitter here.
I've been b***hslapping the rare Tiamat A I've met by going first thanks to Demedicky, she does protect you from Tiamat A if she goes first.
lol just go first anon
how can you not know this from practice
yeah it's pretty embarrassing, it all stems from the first time i duel a atiamat team and even made sure my demeter has more agi than atiamat which she did, but i must've gone 2nd and forgotten about it and assumed atiamat fricks you over no matter what if you have no barrier up.
Trust me if there was an actual counter to Demeter you'd know
>tfw you get Demeter finally but you don't have the demons to make a good slow or sweep team
Is there a point in infusing Demeter's mag?
mag increases mag defense making her tankier
Wait does Anahita's magic boost pair up with Demmy's bulwark
Yes, it actually work with any bulwark.
those kinds of passives stack. every single "while zenith is active, grants xyz", every single "while enemy is gloomed, grants xyz,", every "while reflect magic is active" etc. doesn't matter who caused it, just as long as it's in play.
Yes, now if only she had more HP
Yeah. I always wondered what Anahita+Amon was like but I don't think there's any videos of it.
Gold is kinda fun right now with what I have
Having to choose what to gamble on when I click random is fun
The Tiamat, Demeter, Zeus, Elohim team gets fricked by fast teams with Demeter but has enough damage to deal with extremely tanky teams
While if I trade Zeus for Astaroth I a lot of times can outspeed those faster teams but extremely tanky teams are sometimes a problem
Also I love when Tiamat hits a weakness with her first attack because then Zeus also hits everyone before bulwarks and if anything dies Elohim also does a nuke, shame that nearly everything has null dark
Gold was always the fun tier in my opinion and that hasn't changed that much recently.
You are building Astaroth wrong if he isn't doing as much damage as Zeus
Astaroth hits like a wet noodle by current year standards
Zeus can get like 40k in a single turn.
Nowadays Astaroth is there to have guaranteed crits and for more PT.
Anniversy when?
i just rolled demeter and am therefore good at pvp
You still need demons which can reliably take out other guy's Demeter
I think that's the joke.
Any instances besides maybe Zaou Gongen where Glee brands are better than Lost, Destruct, 6th Sense, Hasty, and even Embattle?
Zeus and Astaroth if you need those crits for extra press turns, and if you are dealing with demeter. Aside of that I see no use for them.
How'd you get so much HP
Life brands and life Surge for Ammy, but even then none of them compete to the real tanks in pvp.
I love seeing teams with kangiten because it's such a wasted spot lol
He/she might be good for fricking around if you're in silver
update - i rolled a yellow kangiten from the free files lol
Literal waste of luck, you got scammed.
It's all over
I'm gonna either reroll or rope or both
I wish that was me. I don't plan using him on pvp but I like how the funny elephant looks.
>they dance around in their idle animation
Soulful.
what brands for hugging elemant
Life and Ward, HP% and Matk%
>enemy team is charmed
>Kalki kills teammate Griffith
>immediately revived due to Ratnamaru
>counterswept
>poison goes off fine
>Kabuso’s charm hits a Kalki with null charm four times, meaning Bind doesn’t go off
fricking around with ailments is still the only remotely viable team set up I have and even when it should theoretically works it gets fricked up
post your oldest demons
i've been playing since launch i'm pretty sure the teal mara was the garanteed 5* i got when i started, my 2nd 5* was a red thor which was the original meme pull because sega gave one away for free and you could not shift archetype back then, you also see the renmant of my yellow ishtar and tag jacks that first got me into diamond, i used fenrir to outspeed the other teams. It's crazy how the game has changed since launch
My first account got banned, and the oldest demons I have after picking the game back up right away were the free Setanta, and the Cerberus, Orochi, and Yatagarsu I used to get through Aura Gate.
1/2
still got my old demons i used back when the western servers launched
2/2
Ali is the oldest demon i still use
Also sold a red Cu sith that I used to have. I didn't know I couldn't fuse him again.
>banned
Cheating I assume.
Yeah. I had used the cheated apk because I couldn't get any 5*s after months of playing and I just wanted to clear the Aura Gate.
Alice, because I rerolled for her, and Mermaid.
Started playing just a bit before the first Berserk event
I do not know how that baphomet survived everything, guess it's a testament to how bad I am at organizing things that I didn't even realize he was there
I started at 3rd ani I think? Rerolled till I got best husbando (baal)
Demeter armpits
I HATE BATTLE TOWER
I HATE BATTLE TOWER
I HATE BATTLE TOWE
>the only people i'm fricking beating are the ones who didn't register (ie their score is fricking 0)
>person above me has more than double my score
this mode is such fricking homosexualry
It's a coin toss. You either get teams with Maria, Demeter and Gozu Tennoh, or you get crap like Yama, Ananta and speedster Attis.
I think it wouldn't be this bad if the MC had more power. I hate only having three demons instead of having my whole party.
this season (if their even that) i started in HP3 and i got perfect score on every opponent except 1 where i had to use 1 handicap, I placed 8th. like that other anon said, luck plays a huge part it seems.
started about 4-5 days ago, almost have 5.5k gems. is the start dash yoshimitsu step up worth it? if not which one (if any right now) would you guys recommend?
Reroll for Zeus and Demedicky, its literally the only banner worth anything right now.
not really big on rerolling, plus i don't really want to do all of the story+demon buster, hell park etc. i've already completed. do zeus and demeter make the game a lot easier or something? haven't really paid attention to any of the banner demons, i just know from past experiences with smt that yoshitsune is usually good
Powercreep is the norm in gacha and Yoshi was powercreeped years ago.
Zeus is the strongest/second strongest damage dealer while Demeter trivialize all PvE content and 98% of the demon roster
yoshi is worthless outside of phys democalypse
would personally rank it among the top 3 essential demons for the boss fight, outside of the demons offering dmg boosts
the other two being mara and odinA
Yoshi is super outdated. Get Zeus and Demedicky.
tried rolling for zeus and demeter and got nergal on step 4, should i kms?
>ailment demon that isn't Tiamat A
>in a Demedicky meta
RIP in piece
Why the absolute FRICK are you guys still playing this garbage?
I have the best demons and i kick peasant ass
Also i like SMT
I'm waiting for Mermaid to get panels.
Sunk cost fallacy
this is me
i was gonna quit and the game started throwing shit at me so i'm still here
It's fun.
Should I roll Zeus in step up summon or gem summon? Been lucky several times with gem summon, got my first Zeus that way while step up summon often disappoint despite seem like better chance
ALWAYS go step up
and now we wait
So when ate they opening it up?
>botis and kalki rerun
>Right after Zeus and Demedicky banner
Yep, it will be powercreep time soon.
It's because they are the previous anniversary demons anon.
Pierce Bulwark would be funny because it would wreck every single defense team, except for maybe dodge tanks
Guedhe meta here we cum
cast your bets for the next 300 tome demon
a) bulwark pierce
b) null resistance down
c) fire resistance down
Element Resist up, something like immediately after taking damage raise the resistance of that element (applies to entire party)
Also has Null Pierce and naturally nulls fire
>it's a dual banner with a demon that has a 1000 potency almighty skill
Force resistance down
Ice resist down.
It's the element with the least demons, they do need to add more.
Some direct Demeter counter probably, most likely a demon with a bind chain effect.
I would hate it if they add some demon that just makes bulkwark useless the same way I hated Maria for making revive ban useless.
For future demons, I'm pretty sure Light Affinity decrease is next because Kangiten has Drain Light for no reason, the same way Kalki had Null Dark.
I would love that if they buff Baal. I would love to use him or Susanoo again.
Do they ever buff non-gacha only demons?
Last year they buffed every 5 star demon. Some were just simple resistance changes to get prepared for Demeter like going from "-50% dmg taken" to "-50% dmg taken" while others were more important like Ananta, Ishtar, and Fafnir.
I hope they do the same this year.
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/093967.html
>"-50% dmg taken" to "-50% dmg taken"
I mean to -70% dmg taken. I guess I'm just moronic.
>to get prepared for Demeter
That has absolutely nothing to do with Demeter.
Devs probably make their plans for demons in advance, so I would not be surprised if the resistance buffs were made so those demons could shine alongside demeter.
And even if that wasn't the case I appreciate because either love getting zero damage from elohim or Zeus when I use fusion demons.
>so I would not be surprised if the resistance buffs were made so those demons could shine alongside demeter.
But they don't, these have nothing to do with each other
Just realized that changing Baal's skill to single target without changing powers would unironically be a buff in today's meta
Late June will have the Half Anni powercreep, thats why they are rerunning the older powercreeps now.
Remember it was Elohim and Shaddhai last year.
Thinking about it all 3 non game collabs have had some REALLY moronic animation at one point
>Ghost kn the Shell
>Berserk
>Seven Deadly sins
Lel, I didn't notice.
>Thinking about it all 3 non game collabs have had some REALLY moronic animation at one point
This is it, bruvas. Chainsaw Man Collab confirmed
Funny Elephant + Demeter + Kalki + Skull Knight P4
How the shit do i unlock the two red gem panels on the right side
they're unlocked later on when they add more panels
Ty but I'm more of a dickyKatsu guy myself. As if lol. I'm not installing 150GB of assets and then spend the next 3 hours tinkering all for a 5 minute wank.
Time to waste 500 gems on not getting Kalki
I wouldn't bother. Especially since anni is so close now
>all the Berserk characters have new panels
>Zodd still makes the same fricking stock chain chomper sound while attacking
kek
Should i wait for anni or try to get Elohim
i'm waiting until half-anni, last year elohim made maria next to useless so I'm expecting the same will happen to demeter
Wait because elohim will be back either way.
other than Longinus is there any demon with null mortal (panel or skill) that can hit fairly hard on a single target?
Hinokagutsuchi has it at Panel 2, same with red amon. The other ones are support demons like Echidna or Asherah, and AOE demons like Sabbath and Shaddai.
>red amon
oh shit that's true, thanks anon.
is hell difficulty worth going through? seems to give almost no gems
It's still one of the few way to earn gems outside of PvP
lol how the frick are you supposed to win that archangel battle for kasane
i have demeter, maria, kangiten, zeus, odin, botis, nothing works
Are they immune to mortal?
Yep, occult flash doesn't work
This is honestly such horseshit
If any of you manage to clear it let me know how
The best i could manage to get into is an endless loop of Demeter and Kangiten surviving while i try and fail to keep Botis and Zeus alive with revive items
I beat them with this. Don't bother with magic unless you have giga chad min maxed sun, spam phys hard (preferably aoe). Still least cancer fight from all those kind of events
This might be the first(?) PVE boss BuffMaister can't take on with fusables
So true.
You had both maria and demedicky and still had struggle with the snuggle?
I didn't think i'd match the speed requirement to go first so i kept trying to go full assault mode, and also my brain didn't register that the angels revival skills have a limited number of uses so i thought if i didn't sweep them they'd just keep coming back
Alright i finally did it, i bulk cheesed it with Demmy, Kangiten, Maria, and Undead Alice for fractional chip damage
I outlasted them motherfrickers on auto
Aaaaaa I'm not even there yet fuuuuuck.
Man, the Kangiten+Demeter combo is wild.
Nevermind it might be doable with fusables
Ah yes Demeter my favorite fusable
Lol I have her so I literally forgot she's gatcha
Black rider too but he's not necessary
When's the last time we got a fusable?
Technically Beelzebub
General Masakado :^)
Erikoning and btw I am waiting for his P4 with 3 copies of him I got through gatcha
Come up with panel buffs and P4 for a demon which still doesn't have them
>Masakado
>your Press Turns cannot be reduced by enemy skills
both masakados have p4s anon...
Oops. It's been such a long time since I've used him.
do they have to meet the criteria of being dogshit if they're on non gacha demons?
>hresvelgr
>get ice pierce. that's it.
>vasuki
>same thing.
Ose Hallel
Gives Zenith to self at the beggining of every turn
Big Acc and DMG buff
Medium Defencive buff
Flauros Hallel
Gives Lydia and Bullwark to whole party at the first turn
When Lydia heals or when a bullwark gets added he uses Baptisma on the demon that is targeted (if attacking second targets demon with highest VIT)
Comes with a buff so Baptisma also heals the entire party
(Flauros H already started out kinda meh)
Flauros
Adds another attack to the chain that also gives him charge and crit after it
Uses Hell Leopard during the start of enemy turn
I want a p4 for flauros, but that's mainly because i pulled 5 of them in a row ended up using one to save mag
>Fafnir
>Adds Poison Pierce, removes Bulwark at start of enemy turn
>Vairocana
+50% to Max HP. Activate the following Chain Effect when a demon enters a state of Bulkwark: removes all buffs from the enemy team and use Debilitate.
>Atavaka
+50% to Max HP. While this demon is alive all allies will receive the following attributes: -40% to phys damage and -40% to Critical hit rate damage
>Hecate
Activate the following Chain Effect when a party member hits a weak point: Enters a state of Concentrate. +20% to Dark Damage. +20% to dmg done by single target skills. +20% to dmg to enemies in the state of bulkwalk.
You don't have Demeter and have the ugly Tiamat don't you
I have demeter but I know some people have problems with her.
I love demeter.
>Baal
> +20 Magic and Speed. Whenever an enemy demon revives a demon or adds a Bulwark: Enter a State of Concentrate.
Anat and Baal: Elec/Force affinity down + auto concentrate
i was able to beat the angel boss with
>dumb fairy prostitute
>orcus
>orange man of damage + mega healing
>the guy from guts that's a dog with demon wings
the key is that they're op auto res bullshit spells are limited to 6 uses so you can just survive until they run out of them then kill them
I think I glitched their AI or something because not one of them used a revive spell after I killed Michael a second time
their revival spells are 6 uses only
huggy elephant, gogmagog and orcus seem to make the angel fights into a joke. only trick is figuring out which 4th member will make it go faster (i'm trying with black rider for now)
I know they made White Rider 4 stars but is that really a good enough reason to make all of his panels give basically nothing?
It's over. Sega won
Kneel.
>archangels get buffed
>next demon is an Herald with light affinity debuff
I can only wish. But the same happened with the sisters fight so who knows.
>The anni demons are the ayyy lmao lucifer and merkabah combo
Ayycifer getting in before Demon Lucy will make so many people mad
I want it
I unironically like Ayyy lmao luci so I would be happy.
Is this it? Are the archangels back to reclaim their throne?
Unironically they might get buffed soon like Tenmas
I predict next demon is magic nuker which makes Elohim seem reasonable
Almighty guy that nukes a single target 4 times and each time it's the same damage as the first hit of Elohim, also counts as different attacks so SK will hit 4 times too
Hope you whaled for him!
>also counts as different attacks so SK will hit 4 times too
Chain effects only work 2 times in a row max. You fool, you moron.
Pannel 1 makes so chain effects on your team can activate even more times
>Elohim, Anahita, Demmy and the theoretical nuker
It's cookin time
Is the -barion shit good for anything?
Democalypse?
Democalypse, but it's good for a few demons like Yama and Izanami that have Mp reduction.
He got two reruns if I'm not mistaking, the first one when shaddai got released and I think he had another one earlier this year. Aside of that he is paired with other frickers.
Does Elohim ever get a single banner instead of coming bundled up with other bullshit
I completed the map and all i got was this shitty title!
should i build shaddai for bulk or damage
Building bulk raises his damage, read his unique skill
You still have to choose in terms of skills, because eg. Almighty Amp will give a much bigger boost than Life Surge
Not him but visualize Almighty Amp + Life Surge
Here if you want to read it
Oh huh my moronic ass missed that
Gotta maximize his HP then, thanks
Is it worth to go elohim + mithras + anahita + demmy
Is Elohim enough of a nuker to justify being the only real attacker
>Is Elohim enough of a nuker to justify being the only real attacker
I don't think so, you need at least one more demon for that but anahita may do the job well.
True enough she's got 200 potency huh
Yeah mine has 19k and deals 1.5k to 2k with full buff swing against demeter, which isn't bad.
Hard countered by Amon.
Does anyone still use amon?
People still do in Silver 3/Gold 1
For defense, not a lot of people, but I see them from time to time until Gold 3. But for offense he is used but only at P2 or P3.
Are demopocalypse rewards bugged?
Oh wait nevermind
What are some demons that attack the entire party when an enemy gets downed besides elohim and sraosha
Hreselvegr
P4 Guts
>enemy in battle tower used iai ishin then divine flash dealing like 4K damage to himself and killing himself instantly
I love charm so fricking much
Usually whenever new mechanic is introduced one of the older demons get it for example Amaterasu got zenith, Trumpeter gloom and Barong bulwark
So where is the elemental affinity down demon?
That'll take a much longer time i think, because they didn't do a demon for every affinity yet, nor did they do my greatest fear (A demon that cleanses affinity down)
They'll probably be massive c**ts and give ice affinity to Hresvelgr. But there is also buff stack, which idk who could get it.
Buff stack?
That mechanic that Rahab and Gozu Tennoh have. I don't know what's the actual name.
There's literally zero fast demons with ice, that would be a massive waste.
Anahita?
About how much HP do you need on Shaddai to have him do decent damage
>AOE atacker
It's impossible
I just... i'm just sentimental... i don't want the two other israeliteballs to lag behind elohim...
The team with them and demeter literally feels like she's taking care of 3 disabled children (of YHVH)
Honestly Shaddai isn't meant to be a heavy damage dealer, he is press turn denial and a tank
Getting Zeus and Odin made me lose faith in defense teams
I should make that homie evasive i guess
How much MATK should Elohim have at the minimum
3k
Here is your phys affinity decrease bro
https://app.famitsu.com/20230524_2085108/
Huh, i don't remember this demon
Hero Hagen. He is from devil summoner, but his biggest role is in Devil Survivor 2 from what I remember.
He had a quest in SMTIV.
They're really going for the most obscure boomerbait possible.
English version :
https://d2-megaten-l.sega.com/en/sp/news/detail/095718.html
>yellow awaken skill
>gives his team +15% phys damage but not himself
that's kinda novel.
Okuni has a similar skill.
literally who?
dead game lmao
Hagen, he's the guy who killed siegfried
what's the verdict
Kalki owned
He was in 4 and 4A
They just can't damage Demeter and Amon, throw in a tanky damage dealer and you are set
And I really should have finished buffing my Flauros, he had too little HP and I had to Revive him with items sometimes, at least he was the target of single target attacks while alive so he had a role at least
Baldness
Would be neat if 99% of defence teams weren't fully null mortal
The phys affinity reduction sounds really scary, but I'm not sure if it's only one level or two because it says that activates when he uses his skill as well.
MP reduction for phys teams also makes him really good, so I think he is worth it. Half anniversary is really close so he may be the biggest bait ever made
Its probably 2 level because only one level would be countered by giving Demedicky phys resist.
Does this game have original artwork? if so where can i find all of it?
>Does this game have original artwork?
Yes.
>where can I find it?
Some stuff was uploaded to the Dx2 Facebook account, but I think that's it. Aside of the official soundtrack nothing else was released.
shame, hope someone eventually rips it all out and posts it somewhere.
Another Demeter counter
Yeah, I think I'll wait
Should i bother with Hagay if i already have the full elecchad team
Nope, he's obvious bait made to specifically counter Kalki.
Keep your gems.
Thanks anon
Do the slow defense teams ever stop anyone?
I'm disillusioned because i always kick their ass so i feel like setting one up is futile
Mine gets roughly 50% successes up to low gold, then it's pretty much useless. probably only because of dodgy demeter surprising some (and some luck too i'm sure)
Anni demon is definitely going to have fire affinity down + whatever bullshit 300 tome demons get
Picrel to complete the theme of SMT5 chads
concerning events where you can use two parties to farm drops, do you get more of them if you fill both parties with the silver icon demons or does only the first party count
>more of them if you fill both parties with the silver icon
I tested on leveling quest and it appears so.
nice
They both count, and so does the support demon
Botis also won't activate Demeter's moronation if you target her
Elohim has +50% (when his passive is levelled), but the +40% from Botis' passive affects the enemy's defence so it's multiplicative, it's more like +61% total instead of +55% (Mithras works the same way)
Damn, the support demon too?
That's some shit
Does Elohim need concentrate
Kinda feeling disillusioned because he hits like a wet noodle, my Botis with less MATK can pretty much take down most Demeters
Powercreep. He has the same single target attack power of 280 but more element damage boosts
If you don't have panels and tip top branda then what are you expecting
This
My Botis Zeus and Odin don't have perfect brands or any panels and get me to high diamond, so from all the talk bout Elohim being a le epic nuker i expected more i guess
Botis, any colour Botis, has innate +55% to his element. I don't remember how much innate element boost Elohim gets but not as much as this
Either way properly built Elohim will deal more damage than Botis but it does not matter cuz Elo is AOE demon in post Demeter world
How much faster is Elohim in p1 compared to botis?
Imagine a world where in the aniversaries even F2Ps got a selector with all the demons that got released between aniversaries
Let me guess you are mad because you don't have Odin
Nah I am mad that I don't have Nyarlathotep, he looks cool as hell
Great meme
P2 Mozgus automatically heals, which then sets off Kangiten's chain effects, which then sets off Skull Knight's
>P2 Mozgus
>>>>P4 Skull Knight
Oh.
Any videos of Jap whales using P4 SK in PVP?
Wow new demon is amazing.
Make sure to get him for futureproofing, phys has always been the devs and this game's favourite. The new demon is a speedster that reduces phys affinity twice and gives everyone might
Even has this meme skill on purple
> While the one with this skill is alive, all other party members will receive the following effect: +15% to Physical damage.
no
He only reduces by 1, he redices by 2 after attacking
>Enemies inflicted with mortal cannot be revived
*chuckle*
He is really a kalki counter. If you don't have Maria to remove the revive ban you may be fricked.
He is bait-ish though, if you want an actual carry just wait for the half anni demon.
Hagen is support for a future giga phys nuker.
update's out
well i just dumped 50 spirit stamps on a head brand with 3 revealed stats just for it to never touch the atk%
frick i hate this shit
Did the same but with like 80.
Shit is rigged, never saw atk or m.atk %
>head brand
>atk%
Anon, I...
Anon only hand and feet brands can have atk%
are you two actually moronic or do you seriously don't know that brands can have atk% as a tertiary bonus
>spirit stamps
>tertiaries
Anon........... I.............
the spirit stamp was for the secondary bonus you idiot
>secondary
>atk%
Anon..................... I........................
idiot
Any idea how much BS is needed to outspeed on challenge with hagen? Even team of 3 with 81k couldn't do it...
You can do Jeng Yun trick and keep starting and quitting the fight until speed hack activates
should probably try to keep better track on what stigmatas i have
You don't have a universal strategy you repeat every run?
For me it's Samael sword P3 + Ixtab shield P3 + Kabuso + 2 fast demons until floor 21
have different ones depending on what demons i get but i always prioritize getting erl
for equipment i do asura shield with whatever heal sword i have that the enemy is weak against
got really lucky this run tho even if i didn't get the heal stigmata with erl,ali, and indra with lord of the dead and elussis' blessing abilities
with erl and ali i can just out tank/heal the bosses
Kokoro is so frickin hot
Is hagay a must have for phys teams
Only for pure phys team and I would still skip him because the half-anni event is coming soon.
If my saved up gems won't be enough to get the new carry i'm going to kill myself
Surely you have enough for 300 tomes, right?
Wrong
Fricking RIP then.
>-60% to damage received except when a weak point is hit
>has no weak points
Use Zeus, Altiamat or Hagen bro
Actually use all 3 and hachiman, all of them trigger him
Ah I get it, half ani demon is going to be the first mag user that decreases affinities
Probably, to frick over all the dodge tanks in diamond and above
Guess who I don't have
I feel like there might be a miscommunication problem here with what tertiary means
Is it worth at least rolling 500x2 on this ugly frick
If you have Odin, Zeus, Hachiman and/or other good fast phys demons, yes. If not, don't bother. Save for half anniversary.
I'm pulling because I actually like Hagen.
I got Odin and Zeus, but why would i need Hagen when i already focus on elec damage
If you have all three of them in your team it pretty much guarantees that Odin doesn't use a single turn to attack, as well as making sure that the enemy is in Gloom even if they removed it somehow with Zenith.
But if you think you have a good team with Zeus I recommend that you save
Ye i wouldn't wanna replace Botis because the mute helps me very often and a lot of things combo off each other
I honestly don't see myself swapping any demons unless the half anni one seriously is some kinda universal work-with-any-team carry like Demmy is
I rolled 500 once, bruva. I cannot live with the guilt.
oh no no no
Would Sieg even be used in PvP if he actually had Dragon's Blood Aid?
I doubt it, his passive isn't very strong at all.
Why is gaymeister seething so much? This battle was piss easy using Kangaroo Boxer's speed hack, and I don't have Diamat, Zeus, nor Hagen.
What party comp?
buffmaister is notorious for only using fusable demons for boss battles and this is the only time he's ever used gacha only demons
I hope the half anni carry will be a cute girl and not a pitch black Black person
I hope it isn't humanshit at all
What do you have in mind, friend
I want stuff like Satan, Hydra, Lahmu and even Shekinah
it should be illegal to hand out a 5* fuseable in the final gacha roll
and then i ended up getting it anyway on the second panel's first pull
i accept the apology, but i'm still pissed they gave me a garuda
Sometimes b***hing works.
>Sword of Fealty
More like Sword of FEALDAD because that b***h is La Luz Extinguida levels of ugly
list of dead homies:
- alilat
- rama
- demiurge
- kalki
Rama is still my Hell Park guy to this day
Fair but every affinity down demon makes a joke out of HP100
>kalki
He is still helpful, and Alilat is the queen of pve. Rama and Demi suck ass nowadays though.
do something for my benefit you stupid fricking charmed demons
i guess people already figured out that concentrate is literally THE counter to charm since the ai will have your demon cast concentrate instead of anything useful
Hagen more like chaden
>whitewashing Hagen of all people
But Kriemhild unironically did nothing wrong
The last few anis have been doi designs in one half and kaneko designs on the other half
What Doi demons do you see getting added next ani?
From least to most
Loup Garou while Zeus hasn't been powercrept and I don't think there is another Elec doimon
Shekinah as the Demeter counter
Krishna and Maytreia as an ailment guy and an anti weak point demon
>Krishna
AILMENT
PIERCE
It's about damn time they add Cleopatra and Mephisto
I personally want Cleopatra but it's probably going to be Artemis considering that she got namedropped during the Zeus/Demedicky event.
I'm hoping for Danu to be the a big healing demon. But the next ones are probably Cleopatra and Mephistopheles, and whoever they choose to be the V event demon.
remember when kalki was a serious threat to phys teams?
neither do i
Hagen is a bait demon made to bait counter a bait demon
I love to mute stupid c**ts and have them bulwark myself to full with their piddly auto attacks
Man part of me really wants to roll for Botis but I also know full well half ani is right around the corner
I got insanely lucky, i got him with my very first free summon file during that SMT4A event
botis+hagen+odinA is the real metadestroyer
nothing can save you against this combo
What makes hagen better than zeus
he's faster and boosts phys damage for everyone on your team
>Demeter is a canon mesugaki
>majority of the playerbase is 40 years and over
Demeter is literally bullying ojii-sans.
Can milfs be mesugakis?
If it looks like a e-girl, sounds like a e-girl and is bratty like a e-girl, it's dicky for me.
I guess that's true, e-girl is a body type after all. Love demeter, protect demeter.
What does corrective anal sex with Demeter feel like
how many events until half anni
I am pretty sure this is the last one
Frick really? I only got 6k jems
Well usually they give out some gems so you might get to 8K!
The current event will end on the 7th/8th, unless they want to start the half ani near the end of the month this is the last one
Doesn't it start in August?
Zeus and Demedicky event started on the last day of 2022.
It will be exactly 6 months since then tomorrow.
They can delay it but the next banner is going to bomb in that case since people know it's going to be bait.
Demezeus was the second banner of 5th Anniversary
And that would mean the half ani should start even earlier, also Okuninushi was ultra bait
>Okuninushi was ultra bait
did anyone here roll for him?
he's good for sloth 13
I know a whale that rolled for him because he wanted to frick him or some shit. I'm kinda glad that he was garbage for a while.
4.5 started at the beginning of July, so in theory we have two more events to go.
Imagine having fully panelled demons and being stuck in gold lol
Poor dudes
>Gozu and guedhe rerun
Easy skip
Weird how no one cares about Guedhe, despite the fact that he shuts don't speedster teams completely if build properly
I guess because Elohim, Botis and Kalki just don't care about dodge
He is probably going to be really useful now that some people started using Hagen more.
>made it past floor 200 and all i got was this crummy title
So you too lost your mind?
How'd you pull it off
heal tank demons with heal sword and dumping everything into vit/luc
had nearly 5k health by the end of it
so far it's the only strat i know of that ever brought me close to the 200f
battles were so long that it took an entire day just to finish the last 5 floors
>outspeed a fast team
>press auto
>entire team uses normal attacks, including Elohim and Mithras
Skill Issue
>Want to use the GW choice summon for skill harvesting/ fodder for fusion or 6*.
>Worried that they might release Panel 4 of best herald, so haven't used it yet.
I have no idea if they'll bother releasing more P4s soon, but I don't wanna risk using it.
They will probably release new P4s in the half ani, the anis is usually when they release those
How close are we from the half-ani again? I lost the count.
7 days or 21 days
Thanks
Archangel P4s seem very likely
I wonder if they'll do dimensionals however
if they did crossovers then they'll almost certainly do dimensionals
especially now that some are worse than their non-dimensional counterparts
atziluth should get their p4s first, frick angels they can get theirs at the same time as sisters
havent touched the game since gozu-tennoh. is meta any different at all or is it still demezeus/bulwark shenanigans
It's the same
It's pretty much the same, but add Kalki, Tiamat A and a few others popping out from time to time.
didn't realize how much affinity decrease demons trivialize the last hell park battle
beat king frost in the first round with odinA and hagen
>still no stream announcement
Yep, the half-anni event is getting delayed
Can't wait for a super bait demon tomorrow that I will see once every week
It's next month moron
Why would the half ani be in the 7th month
Last anniverssary event was in december homosexual.
Half anniversary is always between late June and early July gay.
INDRA IS THE NEXT DEMON
https://app.famitsu.com/20230607_2090467/
Inherent Skill: Thunder Emperor Fighting Spirit
Gain Physical Pierce. Increases effect on own battle speed by 20%.
At the start of your turn, activates the chain effect: "Charge yourself and grant Zenith to all allies for 1 turn."
While in a state of charge, when an ally other than yourself performs a Physical or Magic skill including an attack or a percentage damage, activates the chain effect: "Inflicts physical damage with a critical rate of 50% to a single enemy."
While the one with this skill is alive, all allies will have the following effect: ``Damage dealt increases by 15% when in a state of Zenith, and damage received from physical and electric attributes is reduced by 30%.''
Inherent Skill: Indara MP: 5 (no use limit)
Inflicts physical damage with a power of 150 and a critical rate of 50% on a single enemy.
When the attack succeeds, activates the chain effect: "Inflicts physical damage with a power of 150 and a critical rate of 50% to a single enemy."
Ignores Counter and Endure skills.
Panel 1: Increases the effect on own battle speed by 20%.
Reduces damage received from physical and electric attribute by 50%.
Panel 2: Max HP increased by 20%.
While he is alive, all allies will have the following effect: "When in a state of Zenith, hit rate increases by 20% and critical rate increases by 20%."
PANEL3: Increases physical damage dealt by 20%. Accuracy increased by 20%.
Indra vs Indrajit who wins
indrajit canonically beat indras ass in the mythos, it's why he's called indrajit to begin with
Ironic that the opposite is happening gameplay-wise.
*BINDS your path*
>Demon who basically tell phys and elec team to frick off
>Let's make it fast
For what purpose? Slow teams are the ones who need someone like him.
Also obvious bait banner, half-anni event soon etc
>lightning god
>only uses phys
Fricking hilarious how you can now do literally any democalypse with just phys demons and be in the top 3%.
Indra is not outstanding but they are releasing more and more phys oriented anti meta demon.
The anni demon is expected to be a super busted Phys demon to complete the new meta.
>use Maria
>get outsped
>use Kartikeya
>get walled by Gozu
The anni demon will be a hard phys hitter who does double damage to demons with bulwark
The half ani demon will be a Phys (Mag) demon
Here's your half anni phys meta demon
If the opponent uses an agi or phys skill counter with a huge attack
One of the 4 (four) good designs IV had.
Who are the other 3?
Koga, the dude with the three heads who was made out of chrome, and Lucifer 2nd form.
Chemtrail
I guess I agree. I personally like Napaea and Luci's first form too.
Good stuff dude.
I like Lucy's first form in Apocalypse, but in 4 he looks like evil Squidward.
>Attack
>Hachiman chain effect
>Indra chain effect
>Hachiman chain effect
>Indra chain effect
>repeat x6
Your new Democalypse prelim phase
Indra only does it once, it's a While in a state of charge
first pull luck
>Indra skill is not Vajra (a Single target Gungir)
Frick you, Sega
What was the first banner only demon
damn, i don't know anymore, Huang Di?
hell biker
remember back when teal ose was THE meta demon?
good times.....
>tfw 3*s let you easily tackle 5* bosses
All I feel now is pain.