What's your opinion on the shmup renaissance that's currently happening?
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It is? Where?
Everywhere. We've been getting a very decent amount of shmups in the last couple of years, both on consoles and PC.
I missed them
Please tell me that you at least didn't miss Zero Ranger.
>2018
Seems cool though
give me a list homie
last modern shooter I enjoyed was Crimzon clover.
I didn't even download the R-type remakes because the 3D looks soulless.
t. zoomer
we've had a lot of good new releases the last few years, it's really unusual after such a dry and decade that was the 2010s.
>Rolling Gunner (made by exCave staff)
>Cotton Rock n Roll (made by some exTreasure staff) and Cotton Reboot
>Psyvariar Delta
>Raiden V (this one is surprisingly slept on)
>Pocky and Rocky ReShrined
Not to mention some excellent ports like Castle Shikigami II, the Darius collection, the upcoming Ray collection, Natsuki Chronicles and more. And loads of indie releases (which I don't gel with but others do, like that Drainus game).
It's easy to be blackpilled in the 'shmup community' (because it's easier to gatekeep a dead genre and tear others down) but we honestly have not had it this good since the 360 days.
raiden v sucks, I don't know why people liked it. The game is just obnoxious to play, visually and aurally.
I can barely see the bullets in that game. It's funny because Caladrius Blaze doesn't suffer from any of its issues.
Agree, the visibility is piss poor. The dub and dialogue is endearing though.
The dialogue is also annoying because they literally never shut the frick up, like I'm supposed to pay attention to important plot conversations on the side of the screen while trying to not die from a bullet I can barely see. Shut the frick up general uguu-chan.
I completely agree that you can't listen to it while playing, but the story itself is cute.
>Cotton Rock n Roll (made by some exTreasure staff
Don't associate treasure with Success. Who the frick told you this?
There's this one guy at Saizen that worked on the game and a few Treasure titles like Guardian Heroes and Radiant Silvergun, still a big fricking stretch to say something like that though.
https://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,44141/
A stupid remark too considering treasure has a pathetic history with shooters while cotton's worst game is a pachinko game.
>he didn't play ZeroRanger
ngmi
Yeah spamming the sword attack for 60% of the game because you have to for scoring is really a fun "shooter" mechanic
>he didn't go with the drill
Yep, truly and literally ngmi.
Dude the shmup renaissance happened more than a decade ago when shmups were actually popular
You'll take back those words once Deathsmiles 3 wins GOTY at the game awards 2025.
I want to get into shmups. Is graze counter any good? I like cute girls
Try the demo and find out.
Unironically play Touhou. Wide network for pirating so it's easy to try them without buying, and the games tend to be pretty straight forward shmups (at least the early Windows games, 6 through 8).
You can play Mecha Ritz right now, it's free.
https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/8513
There's only one girl though and she's evil.
There is no such thing as a shmup renaissance. Indie developers are just too mediocre and lazy to make a game more sophisticated than a 2d pixel metroidvania or a shmup.
Makes me sad that even on Ganker, a board where people pride themselves for liking obscure or hardcore games, shmups are still dead.
I like Game Tengoku. Perhaps to a bit of an unhealthy degree.
Good shit anon.
Purification complete
You use the word "normie" instead of normalgay, or just normal your opinion is irrelevant.
Fixed my post. Now I'm convinced that you're one of the morons who believe that this place is some kind of hardcore gaming community for "true videogame fans".
yes. sex.
so cute ToT
def
check the manga, lots of service and full nudes
I don't see it on the panda
Cant remember where I got it.
I believe this was where I downloaded my copy from.
https://manga-zip.info/dl/GUN%E3%81%B0%E3%82%8C!%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E5%A4%A9%E5%9B%BD/
There's a seeded copy on Nyaa: https://nyaa.si/view/1092859
Nice
what, i remember this character from an old otakuworld KiSS file i think
I was underwhelmed by it, nice theming but pretty weak compared to other saturn shooters like cotton 2.
Ganker is every bit as normalgay as any other videogame community on the internet; it just relies on contrarianism so they just pick the games opposing the most popular ones (while still being popular games themselves. A good example would be Ganker loving Elden Ring, then denouncing it and then jumping into Nioh 2, another big budget big name Soulslike).
Only an idiot would believe that Ganker is some kind of hardcore gamer community.
You sound like you care a little too much about what others think of you.
Ganker doesnot even like vidya
half the threads are either 2D coomposting or generals without any game discussions
>Ganker is a single entity
>of course i'm not as dumb as Ganker
you are what's wromg with this place and don't even notice.
>nioh 2
>soulslike
you ARE an idiot
This is very true, look at how threads like this one try to shy away most of the time from talking about Touhou, which has been far and away the most popular shmup series for the past 20 years.
It's being contrarian even in a niche category.
>look at how threads like this one about videogame shy away from talking about shovelware for normalgays
What a mystery
You don't know the definitions of either of those words. Doujin indie games aren't shovelware and Normalgays don't even know what a toohoo is, at the very most they'd have seen the Bad Apple Nominico remix video.
>touhou games aren't shovelware for normalgays
Oh dear anon, is this your first week on the internet?
If anything, I think it's yours. You'd have to be delusional if you think that Touhou is in the normiesphere just because it's popular among weebs.
>weebs
So it is indeed not your first week, but your first day online. Frick off back to gaia homosexual.
>look at me I said Gaia therefore I'm an oldgay!
Holy shit stop LARPing dude, go back to r/Ganker.
What the frick are you talking about? Christ you newhomosexuals are insufferable
You're a fricking pathetic excuse of a human being and only hate Touhou because it's popular.
I hate touhou because its legitimately garbage
Ten Desires, Violet Detector, and the first 3 PC-98s sure but the rest nah you just wanna be different.
This is twitter syntax, I've seen it before. Go away.
>twitter syntax
what the liter frick are you talking about.
You're vastly overestimating the popularity of 2hu.
Cirno day was trending.
Trends are catered to your preferences. I see my favorite games "trend" at least twice a week.
That also says you yourself use Twitter gg moron.
>That also says you yourself use Twitter gg moron.
Only as a way to get e-girl porn and follow shmup devs, but yes. Woe is me. How shall I ever recover?
>Lambasts other anons calling them twittergays
>I-I only have mine for e-girlporn and to see shmupdevs! I'm not a hypocrite!
holy shit can you get any more pathetic.
You're an actual fricking idiot. You and the previous guy.
You're mixing up two different types of autists. I don't give a frick about whether you use Twitter or not.
Although you're a legitimate subhuman if you have a discord account.
Bro your average normalhomosexual doesn't even know Reimu. Your trends are also based on your preferences.
uhm, akshually,,, we have uhm, Drago's dofma, and um.... *checks notes*
>Ganker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
or hardcore games
amigo...
You're thinking of the Ganker from at least twelve years ago. That one doesn't exist anymore.
This current place is merely another corner of the internet to talk about The Next Big Thing, and maybe shit on it or congregate like vultures if it happens to be an anime-themed gacha with balloon breasts. It's another altar of worship to dumb consumerism and a fantastic propaganda tool if you have enough shills to enforce your narrative as will.
The one and only constant throughout the years is that barely any of its users is over 18.
Ganker was never a hardcore community, even back then. It'd be like calling Ganker an intelligent knowledgeable community.
Not entirely wrong but not fully right, either. The old culture forced everyone to really want to be perceived as Magister Ludi. Helps that back in the day no one really knew what they were doing, so posting Windia's ass already made you all the more of a fine connoisseur in the arts.
Living Dead, now he's a progenitor of the proto culture.
Most people who get into shmups never become lasting fans. They enjoy it for a while, then quit because the genre hasn't evolved since the 90s and has no room left to innovate. Shmups being autoscrollers hurts them a lot too, no matter how great a stage is it will always get boring when you have to replay it 50 times to see later levels. Also shmups don't reward any kind of skill other than mechanical precision, unlike other "hard" genres there's nothing dynamic about it, you just memorize 1 route and practice until you play a level the same way every time.
Most shmups are like cheap gum. Really awesome at first, but wear out really quickly
>unlike other "hard" genres there's nothing dynamic about it, you just memorize 1 route and practice until you play a level the same way every time
someone's never played Battle Garegga
Garegga is great, one of the best. I do think
is correct though because even a great game like Garegga can become lame when you play for score. But it's a problem because in other genres playing for score usually makes it better. To play a shmup well you're supposed to memorize a route, and it's just lame.
>Most people who quit shmups tend to have these absurd ideas for some reason
What's absurd about that? I mean, there is a reason the genre really struggles to keep enough players to support games.
The idea that there are "ideal" routes to follow as if humans were TASbots, most of all, I guess. The genre definitely suffers from some repetition and are terrible at teaching new players the ropes, at least beyond aiming for 1CCs where repetition sets in.
This could be done better. Games like Hitogatta Happa (remake where?) and Hellsinker. literally live by their scoring systems, and even your run-off-the-mill CAVE shooter with at least ask you to think a little if you're aiming for high scores, but these options not being immediately apparent to anyone is what causes their niche nature, not the genre itself.
Shmups have a lot in common with rhythm games. Like those they could put some more effort into making things clearer and not quite so dumb.
>Hitogata Happa
Oh hey, didn't you shill this game a couple weeks ago in another shmup thread? I started playing the game because of your post.
Anyway, I'm running the game on Linux through Wine, and when I Alt+Tab away and then go back in, it fricks up the graphics until I restart the game (pic related, this is supposed to be the main menu). Outside of that, the game works perfectly. Does this happen on Windows? If not, do you know what the issue could be?
are you on wayland, if not you can try it out unless you use a nvidia gpu
Might just have been me. It works on Windows, though the dev's old games do seem to be coded in spaghetti (just using Steam's controller layer to change/add some inputs makes ones like Bloodvane crash).
Would still suggest disabling full-screen mode and all that in the game's settings.
>The genre definitely suffers from some repetition
??? that is like all games
>To play a shmup well you're supposed to memorize a route, and it's just lame.
the same can be said of all genres with scoring systems
Most people who quit shmups tend to have these absurd ideas for some reason. I get some of it, and why (play 10 hours, ragequit, never try again), but parading them online is something entirely different.
I think they just want you to use proper English, you dumbass. You're in a public forum that allots enough time to actually proofread your posts and type something decent with your clearly brilliant writing skills. There is no room nor necessity for contractions or abbreviations unless you acknowledge, yourself, your post isn't reading.
And it wasn't, by the way.
Pseud like you are always funny to read
I don't know if you're on about the grammar but the shmup blackpills he describes really are insufferable since they spend upwards of the last 5 or 6 years hanging around shmup threads to tell people why they are so bad.
I'm talking about him randomly trying to flex his native language on a post that is perfectly comprehensible
If you don't understand why we tell twitter/twitch/tumblr/whatever users to frick off you don't belong here. Now frick off
Yes dude, everyone you don't like is a twitter/twitch/tumblr user lmao
Kys
>kys
Again, using twitch/twitter speak, frick off.
>kys is twitch/twitter speak
hahahaha
It's not pure mechanical precision, it's mostly about how to read bullets and make the correct split-second decisions. It's training your brain.
There are also plenty of different kinds of shmups, not that you're point isn't somewhat valid.
I like it in infinite or caravan shmups, or as a way to get extends in normal shmups. The problem arises when you have to compromise between scoring and actually finishing the damn game. Don't tell me to just get good.
In my case the issue was that I am not skilled enough to beat the games quickly and realized the sunken time to get a 1cc or play "competitively" would be better spent playing a genre I enjoy more like RPG. Also the community was full of insufferable literal autists, homosexuals who bought and paraded around their PCB but never 1cc'd any game and trannies.
>/vee/
>hardcore
this shit board is dead to me after 95% were filtered by margit.
Wrong its just that you cant shitpost about obscure games as easily
It's true and you know it.
It’s great. Z-Warp is really fun.
>rolling gunner on steam never
bless the dude who uploaded it on archive.org
it's a fricking good game
>Toaplan making a comeback thanks to THQ and M2
>Sol Cresta
>R-Type back from the dead with R-Type Final 2/2.5/3 and the upcoming Tactics remake
>Treasure returning from the dead with a new Radiant Silvergun port
>Cave games finally being re-released on Steam again
>M2 re-releasing every Darius game and the RayForce trilogy next year
All we need is M2 porting the Shottrigger ports to PC
I forgot about Cotton, frick.
>Andro Dunos getting a sequel 30 years later
Also the Aleste collection and the fact that M2 made a completely new entry in the series to include in it
AFAIK ShotTriggers are incredibly focused on arcade accuracy so they don't want to deal with the multiple hardware/software issues that come with a PC port.
It would nice if they at least were consistent with which consoles they ported to and ofered more international releases.
you forgot about the new cave tohu and the new ZeroRanger DLC
I thought the 2hu cave game was mobage?
>he new cave tohu
Confirmed mobile dogshit, stop caring already.
>new ZeroRanger DLC
FRICKING WHEN?
>M2 Ray series
CERTIFIED KINO
Batrider needs to be on modern systems
>shmup renaissance that's currently happening?
>shmup renaissance
?????????????
Shmups are making a comeback, babey.
Yes here's the list
>30 years old port
>25 years old port
>20 years old port
>remakes that's worse than the original
>remasters with extra issues
>more ports
>indie shovelware
It's great
that sounds awesome just like boomer shooters
>want to get past just 1ccing
>turns out you have to be a copy monkey and treat it like a second job
Man
At least the music in the games are great
Just try to improve your score, discovering how a game's scoring system works is part of the fun for me. Only compare to your previous self, and try hard not to get discouraged if it appears that your' not improving.
Pretty nice, just keep the ports coming for now.
POST MORE WINDIA AND CASPER ASS
POSSIBLY FOLLETT TOO
MAYBE NOT ROSA BECAUSE SHE'S TOO OLD
Speaking of, Takahashi Meijin (former Hudson Soft/Konami and the dude who can press a button 16 times per second) is working on a shmup with Terarin (the dev behind Moon Dancer and Raging Blasters)
You may think you know schizo shit
But have you ever visited /shmupg/
Jesus frick
Recommend me a game if my favorite shmups are:
Crimzon Clover
Blue Revolver
R-Type (all except 3, that one is an overrated piece of trash, final 1 and 2 are mid)
Dangun Feveron
Darius Gaiden
Monolith
Touhou 13 with Youmu
Cave games are kind of mid and are just nice graphically and sound wise
Touhou games are kinda boring on average
Gradius 1/2/3 are fun but I can't see myself playing them again and they are also too easy, Gradius V is ultra mid
Eighting/Raizing are just all over the place and the scoring is convoluted and boring, they can be fun but end up being ultra mid
ZeroRanger is mid
Raiden games are all trash
EXceed games are all trash
Gun-nac is okay but feel like a romhack
Mars Matrix is overrated
Border Down and all treasure games are mid
Einhander is trash
Ikaruga is too ugly for me to play
Gunbird 2/Dragon Blaze are alright but I hate random stages
Thunderforce are ultra trash
Did I just play every good shmups while the shmup communities are enjoying their vast catalog of mid games because they will eat up anything?
I just need 2/3 more good shmup games to be happy, I don't have enough with the one I just listed on top
H E L L S I N K E R
I forgot I had to play that one, good call
>NOOO don't use words that are easy to convey an information
have a nice day, I don't even have a twitter or twitch, I bet that's all you do with your days loser, I bet you stack no papers and get no b***h
>mid
Frick off all you twitter/twitch normalgays
Batsugun is great. My favorite shmup personally.
I actually forgot to add it to my list, Batsugun + the SP version are so good
great thread so far
There is always a few morons using shmup threads to talk about how THEY are the only true shmup fans that were playing shmups since the 80 and everyone else is a zoomer twitter twitchgay while THEY, and only THEY understand how great Shmups are and only what they play is good and what you play is a zoomer shooter or a boomer shooter
Kys
wow Ganker really proving to be no worse than /b/
it's really just pointing out how contrarianism in one community is symptomatic of a site wide issue with being contrarian to think they are cool.
uohhhh windia
finally a good post
t.
Scoring is the worst part of shmups
why?
Depends on the game, I like ketsui's scoring mechanic even if I suck at the game, beep beep beep beep beep
The worst part of shmups is blocking the true final boss behind a 1CC. Dodonpachi is much worse in this regard since you have to collect every bee medal in every stage, you can't bomb and you can't lose more than one life.
>The worst part of shmups is blocking the true final boss behind a 1CC.
I like that
t. icycalm
>*beeps*
All of you self-proclaimed veterans and pros should be able to answer this.
>No Batsugun
>No Darius
>No Jamestown
What's even the point
Darius is in there you dolt
OH frick I actually never played gaiden. im dum
It's the best of the series, you're missing out
I should, I kinda burnt myself out on G Darius. Maybe I was just not firing on all cylinders when I played it, but the difficulty hit me like a swift kick to the nads. I'm still recovering.
I'm so thankful that I can know which games are actually good and which games are for posers, I wouldn't want to live my life as someone pretending to like a genre as a way to fill the holes in their personality.
Thoughts on Astebreed?
Trash
Very silly game. A decently fun time but beware it's unplayable with a stick.
Did you know they were 11 and 13?
>Did you know they were 11 and 13?
No, but that doesn't bother me. I didn't even know she had a name until this thread.
I'm sure they released an update with more control options so you can play asstobreed with a stick.
For over 10 years I had no idea that girl was from a video game.
this used to be an xbox exclusive and the tag line was something like ''e-girls strike back'' or something like that, a different era
The tagline was "Death smiles at us all, e-girls smile back" and was sold in gamestop. Good times.
Shmups have never been good. Tohou lives only because of waifuhomosexualry and I couldn't legitimately name another series
Why are so many of these games just filled with softcore porn? Do people actually like them because they like the gameplay or is everyone just horny and posting pics instead?
Pure gameplay+sexy anime girls is a winning combination. The only reason shmups still live. Other genres should take note.
Nobody likes Deathsmiles for the gameplay
I like the familiar gimmick.
I do, it's fun. Literally what's not to like?
Homosexual spotted. Only thing better than a good game is a good game with hot girls in it.
Truxton is just Okay.
Mark wasn't known for his good taste in games. I think the only meme one he liked that was actually good is Defender.
Who? What the frick are you talking about?
Mark from classicgameroom. He's known for reviewing a lot of shmups in particular. He used to joke about Truxton all the time and talk about how great it is.
is fun
I gotta be honest, my issue with these types of games is the same problem I have with fighting games. I'm okayish at them, and I could probably be better if I practiced a lot. But I don't enjoy the games enough to give enough of a damn to practice. I feel like part of the reason why both genres will never be mainstream is that it's really just all or nothing. You either love it and put in the time and effort to be competent or you just don't care enough and move on.
Obviously I'm not saying the people who love it don't deserve all of the effort they put in or that people are entitled to magically get good. But it'd be nice if there was at least a middle ground where people didn't get immediately BTFO and don't get to play the game enough where they might start to enjoy it
You forgot to express your gratitude for making me read your blogpost.
Just use save states.
That defeats the purpose.
Beating an arcade game with infinite continues is a waste of time
Not if you're learning while playing. You think all those 1CCs on YouTube were done first try?
This is part of why Touhou is so successful. Easy mode. Normal Mode. Hard Mode. Practice Mode. Spell Practice. A ton of games with fairly consistent controls and mechanics so that almost anyone can find a challenge that's on their level.
The biggest part is probably marketing, but there is something that hooks people once they try it out.
fighting games fricking suck lol
t. spent 7 years as a hardcore competitive fighting game player
should have gotten a hitbox
Last one I played and enjoyed was ZeroRanger
>play darius gaiden/G
>if you pick up all the power ups you actually gimp yourself because you have to stop picking them up at some point
Meme series
is a classic
psyvariar 3 when
Never unless pyx/mr2151 is involved again
Why haven't you played my shmup yet?
Because it's overpriced as frick.
It's alright. I thought it was cool how it gave very substantial rewards for scoring instead of just an extend or two, even if you're an ultra casual you're still encouraged to optimize the way you play.
Just fap to the porn you weirdos
love that track that's all
ahh da daaaa da da daaa da da da da daaa
>renaissance
All I'm seeing are a bunch of re-releases and collections, M2 can't even be assed to port their Aleste to consoles and PC.
Apparently its because M2 says there's such variance in PC hardware they can't perfectly port it. Sounds like a bad excuse to me though.
Bad excuse indeed since they ported Darius Cozmic Collection Arcade and G-Darius HD with no problems.
>All I'm seeing are a bunch of re-releases and collections, M2 can't even be assed to port their Aleste to consoles and PC.
https://www.play-asia.com/aleste-collection/13/70dqk1
post doujin links
Casper best girl
sex
Her and Leinyan along with Reco are the best CAVE waifus.
How do I turn my Xbox One X into a PS1/Saturn shmup emulation machine?
i like galaga
has anyone ever had a girl sit like that in front of them? what did you do?
It's not comfortable to sit like that, if not outright impossible anatomically.
how do i git gud at shmups? I tried mushihimesama and could only get to the 2nd stage without using continues
you just have to play them over and over.
You play them. Then you play them. Then you play them a little more. Then you play them until you can dodge bullets without looking at your character