Should glasses exist in a world where Remove Blindness is a Lv3 spell?
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Should glasses exist in a world where Remove Blindness is a Lv3 spell?
So you can push them up the bridge of your nose and have them glow while you smile like a smug prick
>magnifiers
>magical glass giving various properties to your sight that are inconvenient to have all the time
>vision/eye protection
>bonus to being a smug prick as
said
fpbp
I fricking hate Japan and everything that came out of it. Two nukes wasn't enough.
Anon, that's from Taiwan.
I know what I must do
Motherfricker
Welding goggles makes sense for wizards that cast fireball often. Glasses due to loss of default eyesight makes no sense and is an anachronism.
>glasses in DnD
>an anachronism
moron modern glass eyeglasses were invented in the 1200s. Monks made quartz glasses much earlier in the 1000s. Glasses are fine in a medieval setting as long as they don't have modern plastic frames.
>Anachronism in a fantasy universe
homosexual
>an anachronism
It's called "fantasy"
It only applies to blindness, not poor vision.
whats the difference? both are from defects in the eye, either natural or unnatural
Check out how eyesight actually works sometime.
oh sorry didn't know bad eyesight was caused by magic and pixie dust, or whatever you think causes it. do you use healing crystals at home or something?
The difference is the spell is stated to cure blindness, not poor vision, so it doesn't cure poor vision.
Anon, Blindness has always been a sliding scale.
If anything, poor vision is probably easier to cure. Lesser Restoration maybe.
Restoration doesn't improve inherent conditions.
>huge chunk of the populace literally sit on their ass and stare at a brightly lit screen all day
>more people have eye problems than ever before
>somehow this is an inherent condition because uh... the eyewear industry said so, okay?!
>Lesser restoration cures poor vision
please play a game
>Lesser restoration dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores or cures 1d4 points of temporary ability damage to one of the subject's ability scores. It also eliminates any fatigue suffered by the character, and improves an exhausted condition to fatigued. It does not restore permanent ability drain.
Please tell me where in the description above of Lesser Restorations effects it can cure poor vision?
Read the fricking books, nogames shit fricker.
wrong system
The character being talked about is from Pathfinder 1e, that is the PF1e Lesser Restoration.
But I'll be nice and include 5es version which doesn't help you.
>You touch a creature and can end either one disease or one condition afflicting it. The condition can be blinded, deafened, paralyzed, or poisoned.
Reminder, diseases are a game effect, and poor vision is not a disease.
>Poor vision
>Not a disease
?
Poor vision is not a disease. Poor vision is also not a disease as the game defines diseases for the use of various spells, items, or effects. Poor vision may be a symptom of a disease, but by itself it is not a disease.
Are you trolling?
>be me
>gnome
>want to fix glasses
>brutally gouge eyes out with a metallic demon spoon
> finally I can get the local cleric to cast regenerate to fix glasses problem
>local cleric is dead
>mfw
> hear a mystical voice
> dungeon master
> that's the price you pay for playing a gnome LMAO
Should your thread exists in a world where low quality posting is a bannable offense?
low quality posting is not a bannable offense though
How much do vigilante jannies get paid?
/slop/ exists
Nothing is sacred
so long as you can afford the services costing tens or hundreds of gold or not be like that pretentious homosexual and wear them to "have solidarity with the common man"
should wheelchairs exist in a world where cybernetic limbs are affordable?
Depends how long the body takes to adjust to one. Could need some physical therapy sessions getting use to it.
Oh frick off "Inherent conditions."
>Oh frick off "Inherent conditions."
Great argument you fricking homosexual
Dont be mad, anon. I think you fricking owned that moron
You mopped the floor with his homosexual twink pink boipuccy
Sorry but not a single sane spellcaster will waste a slot needed to proceed with his daily study just to improve peasants eyes
Sure, yeah. "Affordable" will always be relative. When faced with choosing to either buy heroin or the Aradyne Industries Cyberstompers 3000™, druggies are always going to choose the heroin. And invasive surgery might not always be an option for everyone.
Not to mention that it's unlikely they're even going to be affordable, that's a basically captive market. Cyber limbs can go by tens of thousands nowadays because they know these people will pay any price to have their arms or legs back.
Afforadbility of an item doesn't mean everyone can purchase one, as there are those below the poverty line and so on.
And wheelchairs also serve a utilitarian role of being there when a replacement is not there at the moment.
RB undoes getting your eyes ruined by frickery.
It takes a Regenerate to uncuck your genetics.
The character in your picture says, when asked in the game, that he could easily afford to magically fix his eyes, but chooses to wear glasses anyway because it fits his ‘man of the people’ persona he tries to cultivate.
This implies that magical healing is expensive, glasses would only be worn by the poor, or by wanky hipsters who think it makes them look cool.
That dialogue is probably why he made this dumb thread.
It's actually pretty clever: most bums that can't afford magical cure would love him for it, but they probably can't afford his books either so they don't really matter. On the other hand, those that can afford it will see a reminder of an unpleasant condition they had, so they still feel closer to him for sharing the same experience. It's probably why so many politicians in the real world wear eye glasses, despite definitely affording laser eye surgery.
Obnoxious answer: cure blindness, not cure shitty vision.
Better answer: how many people can afford even a single 3rd level spell?
A peasant can't afford to hire someone to cast a 3rd level spell, but every town should have a glassblower. Poor people would have glasses, rich pricks would have wizards to do laser surgery or clerics to wish bad eyesight away. Glasses are 1200s technology. DnD is a mess to place on a real timeline. Rapiers are from the 16th century. Clockwork is from the 19th. Almost every setting would have cheap glasses in wood or metal frames.
Should midgets exist in a world where disintegrate exists as a level 6 spell?
The fact that nobody has realized this is a wheelchair thread with a sheet on is kind of embarrassing.
>Should glasses exist
Nope, defective individuals should be culled to prevent passing their flaws on next generation.
Alright then, step up for the culling station
>Nope, defective individuals should be culled to prevent passing their flaws on next generation.
And yet you're still alive and posting.
Why would remove blindness fix refractive error?
>should hunger be a thing in a world where food exists?
No, but some dipshits insist on living in deserts or refuse to farm.
Yes, because 5th level wizards are rare, and their spellcasting services would cost too much for most of the population.
Remove blindness wouldn't correct short or far sightedness. Other spells could, so they shouldn't exist for vision correction, but reading glasses are a thing, and there are usually items in campaigns that make use of objects like glasses to hold enchantments. One example is from a game I was in where if you didn't have magical perception abilities, you wouldn't know what kind of defensive spells were active on an enemy, so you needed enchanted glasses or some other form of eyewear to be able to 'see' the spells.
Spellcasting services have been priced out in various editions, and a 3rd level spell is realistically too expensive for a 1sp/day turnip farmer.
If a caster could get more money doing spellcasting services than dungeondelving, then why do they do it at all?
Ambition, personal motivations, non-commercial incentives, fame chasing, matters of faith or organizational loyalty, curiosity, and fate?
Most casters don't need to dungeon delve for money in the first place unless in a world where magic is dime a dozen or illegal. There's a billion and one more profitable things a caster could be doing than either running dungeons or being magical laser eye surgeon.
Spellcasters are a tiny fraction of the population and their abilities do not scale and cannot be shipped.
Spellcasters that go beyond level 1 are a tiny fraction of all spellcasters. And spellcasters that can cast Spell Level 3 magic, which is higher than Character Level 3, are a tinier fraction of this group still and much more likely to be focused on growing to higher power than casting the same few spells all day.
There's no conflict here. You're just a moron.
>tiny fraction
That’s not even remotely true for DnD OR Pathfinder
You have no idea what you're talking about. This is the only response you're getting.
You should have a nice day. This is the only response you're getting.
Thank you anon
There’s entire countries full of wizards for frick sake
>their abilities do not scale and cannot be shipped
What are potions? Because I'm pretty certain you can ship a potion from one location to another and boom, you have a remote spell
unless you can get a wizard to cast fricking microscope eyes on you then glasses should
>lamborghinis exist
>people still use bicycles
>F35s exist
>countries still fly Su-24Ms in combat
>eye surgeries exist
>people are still blind
>houses exist
>people are still homeless
Not really a believable setting
Great post
all of these cost money and resources, magic is a resource that replenishes itself daily for free. You could take like 10 wizards and have them cure the blind and vision impaired for a year until everyone has perfect vision and then pay them out if you wanted to as a king or other kind of ruler. Hell, wizards could just do it themselves if they had any semblence of empathy and love for their fellow man.
Most eye surgery costs go to paying the doctors wage and for the hospital to pay for their machine. The actual physical cost of such things is almost nothing. Ear surgeries are admittedly expensive with the cochlear and such.
Also wizards can't cast regeneration
>cost money and resources
So does training ten clerics to level 6
>b-but it's free after that
It costs time and spell slots.
>b-but they get them back for free
If you don't understand opportunity cost you're too dumb for this argument. Every cast of restoration on a random near sighted peasant is one less cast on a wounded soldier, or an attack that wasn't used on the undead.
>clerics of ilmater spend most of their time helping those in need or self-flaggelating
>surely those would rather spend their free fricking spells to aid those their religion strictly tells them to aid
>nuh-uh opportunity cost I am smart
You're a dumb Black person is what you are, the dumbest motherfricker on this board, because you think you are smart for some reason despite spouting mononeural, edgy garbage. Most non-grimdank settings have a faction primarily focused with providing magical healing for free to the poor and a pittance to the less poor.
Illmater doesn't exist in Pathfinder, which the guy in the OP that he clearly wanted to complain about in particular, is from.
reading comprehension
I don't see anyone in that comment chain bring up Illmater until you?
The spells literally are not free. It takes decades of training to get a single level 3 spell slot, and then it costs a day of time every time you cast that level 3 spell.
> Most non-grimdank settings have a faction primarily focused with providing magical healing for free to the poor and a pittance to the less poor
If your setting has a pokemon center in every village of ten people that zaps away all illness you're right you wouldn't need glasses in that setting, that's true. Do you want a prize for imagining that world?
This is true, to get a cleric to level 6 from 1 requires to find 230 cats with 100 xp each for the level 6 (cats are 1/4 cr). Considering that a cat costs 3 copper pieces you need to invest 7 gold pieces to make a cleric who can provide 180 gp service 3 times a day
In 5E a cat is 10xp and it takes 14,000 XP to get to level 6. A demented version of Factorio where you have cat factories that feed clerics thousands of cats to grind XP sounds like something a seasonal isekai might try but in most RPGs you aren't going to have 1,400 cats per cleric to train up a hospital.
How would you prevent the cleric getting mauled by an army of cats?
When someone brings up the bag of rats thing I always think about if someone tried that in my game I'd turn it from a bag of individual rats into a rat swarm and have the Fighter get absolutely fricked for trying to cheese the game.
If random animals give you XP for slaughtering them how is the local butcher not a level 20 fighter?
>Anon thinks the butcher is not a lvl 20 fighter
rookie mistake
Yeah it's obvious they are, simply wielding a butchering axe requires 19 Strength, enough to carry 350 lbs all day long, and also requires that you are proficient with the most exotic weapons.
shopkeepers are not to be messed with
you could donate half your money to charity any day you want if you had any semblance of empathy and love for your fellow man, but you don't
I'll ask in this thread to save another.
So in Homeland, the origin story of Drizzt Do'Urden, Drizzt only gets to live because his elder brother Nalfein is murdered by his other brother Dinin during the battle.
But on the very same page, they talk about how the dead of House Do'Urden are reanimated as zombies to be taken back to the house for resurrection.
So why couldn't they do that for Nalfein Do'Urden? Why do they choose to leave Nalfein dead, a fully grown and useful powerful sorcerer and instead keep another male who will take 50 years to achieve maturity and become useful?
How does this make any sense at all?
They wanted to keep him dead. He was too powerful and too ambitious. Plus, Lol priests didnt like him
Healing spells don't cure genetic defects, at least not in Pathfinder. You need With or Miracle to fix genetic disorders.
Lame, sounds like that disability-as-identity nonsense. Also for vision it takes time for eyes to get worse so even if it didn't cure the tendency to get worse it would still reset you to peak and start the decline all over.
It makes perfect sense if the spell restores you to what you are supposed to be.
You don't need Wish or Miracle to change fricking sex in Pathfinder, you wouldn't need 9th level spells to fix bad eyesight either.
It's like you riffle the pages of the PHB with your eyes closed and then stab a finger on to a random page. That will be the topic for this spam thread and then on to creating the next one.
>Should horses exist in a world where there is cars.
Yes, they're delicious
Glasses:
>can make as many as you want in a day given enough time
>can be shipped to someone
>requires training to make, likely an apprenticeship, but you need not be a region renowned master of your craft to make one
Cure Blindness:
>can be performed 2-3 times a day
>must be standing right next to a person to do it
>requires you be one of the most powerful mages/clerics/etc. in your region
Glasses are far more economical to just be owned by people.
you be one of the most powerful mages/clerics/etc. in your region
Spellcasters are a dime a dozen, they're all over the place.
Any city you're in, if you spit you're practically guaranteed to hit one.
>It's another thread where /tg/ REFUSES to accept that OP's dipshit question depends on the setting, because only someone who actually plays TTRPGs would know that not every game takes place in the same setting and these settings can have any amount of differences for literally any reason- because acknowledging this fact would be admitting that the entire discussion is a shitpost and the thread is bait
Should OP just admit that he's butthurt about combat wheelchairs?
Useless post, but you sure told us homosexual
Useless response but at least I know I'm pushing someone's buttons
>scrolls of cure blindness will only ever be used by adventurers instead of just ilmater clerics travelling to cure the blind
Almost like the setting and other such windowdressing originally came secondary to facilitating dungeon delving and gameplay.
>Jubilost Narthropple
I hate this pretension little homosexual because of that one line he gives you about how he COULD use magic to fix his eyes and not wear glasses, but he doesn't to relate to his readers who wouldn't have the money to purchase that healing spell.
Which is completely fricking moronic and just pure shlock if you think about it for any amount of time because:
-The prevalence of glasses in our world is only a thing because of the sheer amount of 'close work' we do that ruins our eyes: reading, writing, computers, phones, etc.. In ye older times that would have been limited to a middle or upper-middle class people. You'd have money for something is the point.
-Never mind the fact that anybody READING his gay fricking journals would probably be pretty well off in the first place. There's a quest in the game where the Halfling bard LAUNDERS PROVINCIAL FUNDS to buy a fricking printing press and it isn't a small amount of money.
-Glasses would be the rarer commodity than the spell. Not just because of the lack of need/smaller market, but because the magical spell itself would probably deincentivize making glasses in the first place. How long does it take to make a pair of glasses vs how many times can a devoted healer punch out some restoration/regeneration every day.
It's not anachronostic. That isn't the word you're looking for: people had glasses, people had monocles before they had glasses. The word your looking for is internally consistency. This lacks internal consistency- or, OR; it's actually brilliant because Jubilost is supposed to be presented as an unbearable fart-sniffing c**t that he truly does not know who reads his books or the lives they live. Maybe he is the kind of spoiled class-ignorant sjw poofter who thinks such thoughts.
Have you really never seen the kind of dishonest people who market themselves as being "just like you regular folk"?
Actually the glasses cost 5gp so glasses are not a rarer commodity than the spell which costs 180gp as a spellcasting service.
Maybe the glasses get made by a spell that makes glasses which is easier to use than eye curing spell. It makes sense as lower level spells often do the same effect but in lesser form so create glasses would be a level 1 spell compared to a level 3 spell
>Actually the glasses cost 5gp so glasses are not a rarer commodity than the spell which costs 180gp as a spellcasting service.
That's fricking goofy and I didn't know that.
I still stand by my criticism, but now I have something else to add to the list of complaints. Granted, I'm going off the instinct that it *feels* like sitting on a bench, hunched over, making glasses, would be an ultimately bigger exertion of time, effort, and skilled-work, than a Cleric/Priest covering your eyes with their hand and reciting a hymn.
Like, I'm fine with them saying it's easier to train someone to make glasses than it is to train a caster to fix eyes, but it still *feeeels* like the latter would speed past the former in terms of production/output.
We are talking pathfinder, the caster does not train to fix eyes, clerics get the full spell list and just choose to be able to cure eyes that day. So it is mechanically speaking even worse than wizards who would have to learn the specific spell.
Additionally making a magnifying glass costs 100gp so you could either make 20 pairs of glasses, or one magnifying glass.
Fricking adventurer economy
They do need to get up to the right level for it.
Sure but once they get to that level they get to offer that service a couple times a day, every day, for the rest of their lives and they want to do it because it's an exultation of their god to service his congregation. The only limiting factor is if you have an organized church that's directing you where to go and they are modestly corrupt and target parishes with more donations/congregants before smaller villages. The the existence of medical missions in the real world shows that it will try and bring its services to the underprivileged purely out of good faith and the hope of some converts, redistributing the wealth of their more centralized congregants to the outer realms by sponsoring mission trips.
So you think a priest who has trained for years to heal people would waste his few spells per day to cure something that could be fixed with very cheap items, instead of using them to heal the constant steam of dumbasses that have accidentally stabbed a fork in their eyes or gotten mauled by a bear or something. Higher level spellcasters are usually only found in bigger cities, and larger population logically also increases the amount of patients. Of course there might be some weirdos that actually would focus on healing such unimportant ailments, but the nobles would do their best in restricting them for their own use.
Killing a cow gives 600xp
To get to 5th level to be able to cast 3rd level spells you need 15,000xp
Or about 25 cows
A cow cost 10 to 50 gold
So to get a caster that can cast remove blindness would cost 250-1250 gold
Where did you get that exp? Because if you took it from Aurochs, their listed price is 300 gp; there is no listed stats for 10 to 50 gp cattle.
Another problem is ensuring that they would survive that far: Aurochs gore deals 1d8+9 damage, which is more than enough to kill a wimpy 1st level caster. They can't have anyone helping them either, because then the exp would get divided.
Third thing you have to note is that training a 1st level human cleric requires 17 – 27 years (including 15 years to reach adulthood), and that's for player character who are supposed to be exceptional individuals.
>Granted, I'm going off the instinct that it *feels* like
Your feelings are a bad measure of whether it makes sense.
So lets look at what each curative spell actually does for various eye ailments, in PF.
Remove Blindness/Deafness repairs damage to either eyes or ears to restore sight or hearing. It does not fix myopia or other natural conditions of the eye, merely physical damage it has suffered and whether you can see or not. Does not restore missing organs. You would still need glasses for nearsightedness after the casting.
Restoration removes ability damage, negative levels, and mental effects. Myopia is not a mental effect, ability damage, or a negative level. You would still need glasses.
Regenerate restores damaged or missing organs to their original state. If the original state is myopia for the eyes, the regenerated eyes will be myopic. You would still need glasses.
As far as I'm able to see, there is absolutely no spell that can fix myopia, or any other forms of eye conditions that naturally arise from genetic issues, issues with certain eye muscles, and other things which create various natural sight issues. Cataracts could be fixed with spells, detached retinas could be fixed, scratched corneas could be fixed, but myopia from an eye muscle being weak could not be.
This is also true of 5e, but lots of people don't like that and allow the spells to do too overly broad things the spells arent normally allowed to do.
>So lets look at what each curative spell actually does for various eye ailments, in PF.
>Remove Blindness/Deafness repairs damage to either eyes or ears to restore sight or hearing. It does not fix myopia or other natural conditions of the eye, merely physical damage it has suffered and whether you can see or not. Does not restore missing organs. You would still need glasses for nearsightedness after the casting.
>Restoration removes ability damage, negative levels, and mental effects. Myopia is not a mental effect, ability damage, or a negative level. You would still need glasses.
>Regenerate restores damaged or missing organs to their original state. If the original state is myopia for the eyes, the regenerated eyes will be myopic. You would still need glasses.
>As far as I'm able to see, there is absolutely no spell that can fix myopia, or any other forms of eye conditions that naturally arise from genetic issues, issues with certain eye muscles, and other things which create various natural sight issues. Cataracts could be fixed with spells, detached retinas could be fixed, scratched corneas could be fixed, but myopia from an eye muscle being weak could not be.
homosexualry by cripple fetishists/identitarians.
>homosexualry by cripple fetishists/identitarians.
What a weird fricking take. The game doesn't take myopia into account in its healing spells, and now its cripple fetish shit? WTF is wrong with you?
Are you under the mistaken assumption the game is a simulation of reality but with spells? Are you just moronic and view everything through the lens of your dick and what pleases it or not? What is your major malfunction?
Fetish/identitarianism. Cripple pride, like troon madness.
Even assuming it can't fix shit genetics (which is itself moronic) a lot of myopia's *IS* from physical strain, and thus can be healed.
Like reading by shitty light too late at night causing damage in youth.
>*IS* from physical strain
Doesnt count as damage in the system. Like quite literally, you are ignoring the actual described rules for what you want to be there. Does eye strain create ability damage, as in it incurs a -1 to Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, or Cha? No? Then restoration does nothing. Does it create a mental effect, such as the confusion spell, insanity effect, or other such things? No? Then it does nothing. Does it create negative levels, such as those incurred by a ghouls attack or being resurrected? No? Then it does nothing.
The same is true of Regenerate, Remove Blindness, or any other spell in the game. So many of the fricking morons on this board read these spells and equivocate between multiple different meanings for various words and play the game as if it was some weird fricking simulator and not a game using abstracted game terms for abstracted game mechanics. Much like you are doing with equivocating the "damage" (really just changes in eyeball geometry and strength of various eye muscles) of looking at things close up, with the game terms for HP and Ability loss, alongside game mechanics like conditions, effects, and other various debuffs and buffs.
None of this has anything to do with fetish shit. That your first assumption is fetish shit, and an obsession with trannies, reveals only that you are desperate to hide your own weird fetish shit and think everyone else is doing things only to satisfy their own weird fetishes. You are projecting your own internal fricked up desires into how others do things. Fix yourself before you try diagnosing others.
Yes it does.
Also you really really don't seem aware of the insane disability pride movement. But that's the main drive behind the idea that spells can't heal their defects. Because they've decided they ARE their defects like a bunch of shitty Illidan cosplayers in combat wheelchairs.
>But that's the main drive behind the idea that spells can't heal their defects.
THE SPELLS WERE WRITTEN BEFORE THE MOVEMENT GAINED ENOUGH ONLINE STEAM TO AFFECT PAIZO RULES WRITING, YOU ABSOLUTE FRICKING moron.
The disability pride movement is responsible for the combat wheelchair, which is what the OP is a thinly veiled cover for, hating on the combat chair and related shit. People like you and OP post inane shit that willfully disregards the rules, rules in this case taken from a system well over two decades old now, and think it's all about your newest hate du jour. You are a fricking moron caught up in the newest backlash against some progressive movement and now see everything that doesn't resist that movement as being part of it, despite the time frame of the rules creation placing them well outside any consideration of that fricking movement.
Please stop being moronic.
>Even assuming it can't fix shit genetics (which is itself moronic)
Please explain how this is moronic. Please explain where any of the listed spells indicate they can affect a congenital disorder. You are a pathetic slave to politics, and it's turning you into an obnoxious schizo.
Because an injury is an injury, even a congenital one.
A congenital disability is not an "injury"
It literally fricking isn't. You realize that natural healing works because your genes contain the blueprint for your entire body, which instructs your cells on how to properly heal? Congenital disabilities are part of that blueprint, so your body will never know how to naturally heal it.
A healing spell that could heal genetic diseases wouldn't be actually "healing", but performing deep genetic modification accompanied by fleshcrafting/shapeshifting. This is absurdly beyond what most healing spells could do no matter how hard you stretch the definition or fluff.
>You realize that natural healing works
Stopped reading right there. This isn't natural healing.
Yes, we can tell you're an illiterate who can't follow an argument. Your response is completely irrelevant, moron.
The actual blueprint is divine, and divine magic brings you back towards it.
Very well could be true, but the blueprint would include your shitty eyes
You forgot Heal.
Nta but the heal says: "Heal enables you to channel positive energy into a creature to wipe away injury and afflictions. It immediately ends any and all of the following adverse conditions affecting the target: ability damage, blinded, confused, dazed, dazzled, deafened, diseased, exhausted, fatigued, feebleminded, insanity, nauseated, poisoned, sickened, and stunned. It also cures 10 hit points of damage per level of the caster, to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level.
Heal does not remove negative levels or restore permanently drained ability score points.
If used against an undead creature, heal instead acts like harm."
Out of these blinded, dazzled, diseased, fatigued, and poisoned seem like they might relate to sight.
Blinded is previously argued to not be same thing as nearsightedness.
Diseases and poisons can cause the loss of sight, but cover only some of the cases.
Curing fatigue would only fix those caused by eye strain.
Dazzled is described to be caused by overstimulation of the eyes, so it doesn't cover all cases either.
So, raw Heal wouldn't cure myopia either.
To be clear, I would myself probably rule that it functions like dazzled and could be removed like it, but nothing in the rules say that GM would have to let you cure it with some generic spell.
See
Remember that the spells listed in the books are not the only spells that exist in lore. Chances are the devs just never thought about writing up an extremely niche use-case "fix eye birth defects" spell. Realistically speaking, such a spell might already exist, and regardless could be invented, and would be lower level than Regenerate (but higher level than Remove Blindness.)
>The prevalence of glasses in our world is only a thing because of the sheer amount of 'close work' we do that ruins our eyes: reading, writing, computers, phones, etc.. In ye older times that would have been limited to a middle or upper-middle class people. You'd have money for something is the point.
Not strictly true but yes, myopia (one type of refractive error) is prevalent probably because of the activities we do. There would still by myopes, hyperopes and astigmatics even if we didn't read or do close work at all though, and any kind of cure blindness spell would be unlikely to fix them (because there's nothing pathologically wrong).
>'close work' ruins our eyes
I thought everyone knew that this was bullshit.
Had this issue in a one shot a buddy ran. Plot revolved around a deaf girl who could see the false Hydra. I was a paladin and cast lesser restoration. He had to say it didn't work because otherwise we would have all died.
have you hard of fashion?, anyhow they can also serve as a magical bauble
Vision deteriorates over time. You're talking about not just a single casting of a third-level spell, but repeated castings of it on a regular basis.
Yeah, glasses would exist.
>Losing weight is free
>Americans still exist
weight is free
If you mean by fasting, yes. Having a better diet, no.
>Remove Blindness is a Lv3 spell?
this is supposed to be a "miracle" performed by a cleric not a vending machine solution or something routinely done as if in a private clinic or public hospital.
They are an artifact with remove blindness built in effectively making you completely immune to any sort of blindness so long you wear them
Remove blindness is a form of dispel magic. In other words, it removes magically induced blindness.
It also removes blindness done by a flock of crows by them picking and clawing your eyes out.
No it doesn't. It removes magical blindness. Healing spells will restore physical damage.
Remove blindness/deafness cures blindness or deafness (your choice), whether the effect is normal or magical in nature. The spell does not restore ears or eyes that have been lost, but it repairs them if they are damaged. From core rulebook.
>The spell does not restore ears or eyes that have been lost, but it repairs them if they are damaged.
Saying when the eye is lost and when just damaged can be tricky, there's a liquid inside so even small cut can have it spilling out.
True and probably up to the GM when it is completely gone but one thing it can clearly do is heal physical damage and not only magical damage. So it healing only magical damage is just a houserule.
COOL IT WITH THE ANTI-SEMITISM
I play a Chaotic Evil Cleric of random acts of destruction and if someone asked me to cure their vision I'd say "Sure, how much are you offering?"
Why are all these presumably good aligned clerics hogging their miracles?
Should glasses exist in a world where laser surgery is a well-known medical procedure?
You'd be a fricking fool to go to a strip mall and let a israelite laser your eyeball
yes
Would you let a wizard anywhere near your eyes?
Even in a world where there was a common magical cure for blindness there would still be someone somewhere who was blind because of mismanagement of resources by the government or because they have some ethical objection to using the blindness cure or because they live in a hard to reach place that doesn't get many things from the outside world or because the blindness cure doesn't interact well with their local magic, etc.
Should gnomes exist? Rhetorical question, of course not. Into the garbage with all the other "haha I'm short le ebin funny XD" creatures.
All this talk of healing genetics makes me wonder if every restore spell makes manlets taller. Or de-ages you slightly towards your 20's, does dispel poison empty your guts of shit? Or would you need to wait for there to be a hole in your intestines.