16ms assumes that the game is running at 60 FPS, I imagine a lot of games people play through it can only do 30 or even, God forbid, 25 in case of PALgays
i love how there are people that will spend money on horseshit like this and then there's also another subset of people who just load up emulators and force widescreen on every game they play
Is this the weekly thread where fat slobs playing JRPGs and Mario games on their couch suddenly have humanly impossible senses and can tell a difference of milliseconds because a youtuber told them new product added 3ms to their inputs?
These are always a great time
Really if you can handle how your old games already look with your TV upscaling it, you'll probably be fine. Even the 5X does it fine, albeit the smoothing filter there is far worse. Scanline filters on the 5x are excellent though.
As for PS2-era 3D games or higher, they look like ass no matter what when upscaled, especially since most games on that platform don't even run at a proper 480p. Just emulate them or use the PC ports when available, like in the cases of the Silent Hill games or any of Rockstar's titles.
You can troll about pretty much anything with this topic, gotta give op props. Crts, which can be had for cheap, are much better than laggy lcds and especially emulation
These things are so dumb. I cannot understand why anyone wants this.
If you are spending this much mkney go find a CRT with component inputs ans use a scart to YUV (A.k.a. component) transcoder. All of that stuff can be had for less than the cost of that overprices video scaler.
Also, you really wanted to do that. Emulation, and a big ass oled TV os the way to go. Ninte do switch haz ahit tins of good emualtion in it already that already includes premium controllers amd youre fancy-smansy HDMi all set up and ready to go without needing to buy any expensive and useless retrotink.
The idea is to make flat panels acceptable for use with real hardware.
People may want to have a single TV for everything, or just have a bit of fun trying to make their old consoles look good on modern displays.
I would rather use a CRT as well, but if you >cannot understand why anyone wants this
You have clearly put less than 2 seconds of thought into it.
It's a solution to the problem everyone encountered when they plugged their PS2 into their new flat panel and said "wow this looks like shit".
It's for people clamoring for 4k for better CRT effects.
Which you can scoff at, but CRTs are a dying breed and I appreciate that devices that emulate them have a market and there is innovation being done there.
CRT effects apparently start to look more convincing at 4K. I dunno haven't seen it myself.
4K + OLED + HDR + BFI
I'd be curious to have all that shit going and mess with the CRT effects.
Not 750 dollars curious, but I'm glad some people are.
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It looks fricking sick I want to watch TV through it just as much as I want to game
Heres how this is done. These are new but it looks good. Some reviewer complaing about the S video sucking probably hooked it up wrong or used a cheap scart cable that only outputs composite
Buy a bunch ofntheae shits for your consoles. Retro-access has even better cables but they are constantly out of stock. These are still quite good but second best.
what you want to go for 19"/20" to 27" curved tube and component inputs. Some people go for the flat tubes but those are genrally better suited to 3D games. Then there FRT PC monitors and PVMs but that a whole other shits.
Finding one thats still in decent dlshape amd a seller who inst smoking crack is becoming more and more difficult. The CRTs are a little hobby all their own and many people take to learning how to fix them up.
$200 for an aging piece of technology that is inherently consumable vs $750 for a new device is an entirely different thing.
Also paying $200 for something you should be able to find for free is peak moron.
Sometumes you can even find curved trinitons. But these all are lacking component inputs and only have S-video which is still very good. Many of these make ok candidates for RGB mux modding. Mux modding is a type of mod which keeps the OSD intact over the modded RBG input.
Are you a sucker?
Everything I read said less than a millisecond
the marketing says less than a frame, a frame being 16ms
16ms assumes that the game is running at 60 FPS, I imagine a lot of games people play through it can only do 30 or even, God forbid, 25 in case of PALgays
the output is always 60hz no matter what, moron kun
Do latency claims state whether they are talking about a frame of input or a frame of output though?
This board is so tech illiterate it is astonishing
i wanna play games
Good point, if the lag is on the input it would be no big deal, but if it's lag on the output that would be a serious problem.
If it’s fast enough for oldschool light guns it’s fast enough for me 🙂
If you need a scaler in the first place you're adding way more lag by not using one.
i want my games to respond before i even press the button
If you're using an emulator that has less leg than original hardware then you'll need to in order to have an authentic experience.
Currently beta testing in runahead v2.0
No. Just get a CRT for free like everyone else.
is a 20 year old crt better than oled
For 240p and 480i content, yes.
i love how there are people that will spend money on horseshit like this and then there's also another subset of people who just load up emulators and force widescreen on every game they play
truly yin and yang
personally i mod the console for native output so it can easily be used on any television anywhere i go.
Emulation is free
Runahead is free
Scale whatever the frick you want on your nvidia gpu
emulation is dirty hackjob for third worlders tho I don't want cheap imitations.
The only way in which modern emulation is inaccurate is that it has less input delay than real hardware
yeah, if you never played the real thing and only ever emulated on your old dumpster dive dell I'd think that too.
moronic paypig
The best SMB player in the world plays on an emulator
Well yeah, its an unbelievably popular and simple game. it's solved. What happens when you want to dig a little deeper?
Is this the weekly thread where fat slobs playing JRPGs and Mario games on their couch suddenly have humanly impossible senses and can tell a difference of milliseconds because a youtuber told them new product added 3ms to their inputs?
These are always a great time
i play platformers and move the character like a sperg so if its not extremely accurate i cant control it at all
My father is getting me one for Christmas (he used our joint bank account so I could see where he spent money). It's replacing an OSSC.
I don't know if I asked for the wrong gift.
>not getting the retrotink4K
KWAB
I bought the retrotink 2X in 2019. Will I be ok? So far it seems to be fine except the scanline filter looks like ass
Really if you can handle how your old games already look with your TV upscaling it, you'll probably be fine. Even the 5X does it fine, albeit the smoothing filter there is far worse. Scanline filters on the 5x are excellent though.
As for PS2-era 3D games or higher, they look like ass no matter what when upscaled, especially since most games on that platform don't even run at a proper 480p. Just emulate them or use the PC ports when available, like in the cases of the Silent Hill games or any of Rockstar's titles.
I just emulate on retroarch with crt filters. No lag at all with retroarchs anti lag features.
imagine being proud of using that freeware jank
>uses filters
>doesnt know they add delay
average emulator user
It’s imperceptible, so you might as well.
>$750 to make the games look less authentic
You can troll about pretty much anything with this topic, gotta give op props. Crts, which can be had for cheap, are much better than laggy lcds and especially emulation
imagine the b***hin crt and speaker setup you could buy with that money.
I think it would be nice to have this if you have an OLED, but a CRT is still best. I would like to try one to verify if it’s doable with the lag.
These things are so dumb. I cannot understand why anyone wants this.
If you are spending this much mkney go find a CRT with component inputs ans use a scart to YUV (A.k.a. component) transcoder. All of that stuff can be had for less than the cost of that overprices video scaler.
Also, you really wanted to do that. Emulation, and a big ass oled TV os the way to go. Ninte do switch haz ahit tins of good emualtion in it already that already includes premium controllers amd youre fancy-smansy HDMi all set up and ready to go without needing to buy any expensive and useless retrotink.
The idea is to make flat panels acceptable for use with real hardware.
People may want to have a single TV for everything, or just have a bit of fun trying to make their old consoles look good on modern displays.
I would rather use a CRT as well, but if you
>cannot understand why anyone wants this
You have clearly put less than 2 seconds of thought into it.
It's a solution to the problem everyone encountered when they plugged their PS2 into their new flat panel and said "wow this looks like shit".
If I really wanted to hook old consoles up to a flat panel or oled id prolly go with OSSC. There's a new OSSC out too. Its a mini OSSC or something.
Ahh here it is. Thats the new shits. Why does anyone spend 750 on retrotink shit I dont understand.
It's for people clamoring for 4k for better CRT effects.
Which you can scoff at, but CRTs are a dying breed and I appreciate that devices that emulate them have a market and there is innovation being done there.
>It's for people clamoring for 4k for better CRT effects.
This statement makes sense how?
CRT effects apparently start to look more convincing at 4K. I dunno haven't seen it myself.
4K + OLED + HDR + BFI
I'd be curious to have all that shit going and mess with the CRT effects.
Not 750 dollars curious, but I'm glad some people are.
It looks fricking sick I want to watch TV through it just as much as I want to game
Heres how this is done. These are new but it looks good. Some reviewer complaing about the S video sucking probably hooked it up wrong or used a cheap scart cable that only outputs composite
Buy a bunch ofntheae shits for your consoles. Retro-access has even better cables but they are constantly out of stock. These are still quite good but second best.
This gets a little pricey but these auto scart switchers are are very premium and worth it.
These things are almost as pointless has having different controllers for different systems. Inb4 N64. Frick N64.
The hardest part is finding a decent CRT..
what you want to go for 19"/20" to 27" curved tube and component inputs. Some people go for the flat tubes but those are genrally better suited to 3D games. Then there FRT PC monitors and PVMs but that a whole other shits.
Finding one thats still in decent dlshape amd a seller who inst smoking crack is becoming more and more difficult. The CRTs are a little hobby all their own and many people take to learning how to fix them up.
>I won't buy a CRT for $200
>I will buy a $750 upscaler instead
what's the thought process here?
$200 for an aging piece of technology that is inherently consumable vs $750 for a new device is an entirely different thing.
Also paying $200 for something you should be able to find for free is peak moron.
Sometumes you can even find curved trinitons. But these all are lacking component inputs and only have S-video which is still very good. Many of these make ok candidates for RGB mux modding. Mux modding is a type of mod which keeps the OSD intact over the modded RBG input.
I lost out on that exact model tv. Thankfully a month later I got a 27" Panasonic with component so I feel better now.